[AR57] v2.0 Spiral Abyss Floor 12 (9 Stars) - Melt Ganyu/Freeze Ayaka | Genshin Impact

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  • @zohruii
    @zohruii  3 года назад +55

    *IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE!*
    1. Ayaka Team on 1st Half and Ganyu Team on 2nd Half will clear faster than my run in this video. With the release of Zy0x grouping strat, I recommend switching both teams together. Here are my runs proving this:
    Freeze Ayaka 1st Half: ruclips.net/video/27ciX8Nkbtc/видео.html
    Melt Ganyu 2nd Half: ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html
    *Zy0x's Grouping Strategy for 12-1st Half:*
    a. Charge attack Samurai on the left.
    b. Run to left most pillar.
    c. Wait for the Samurai to dash towards you.
    d. When Nobushi appear, go to the pillar in front and wait for them to dash to you.
    e. Stick close to the wall and attack.
    zy0x's 2.0 Spiral Abyss Floor 12 Guide: ruclips.net/video/ZpRQfst4XTk/видео.html
    2. If you kill 1 Nobushi, the other will enter a rage mode where he'll heal + have permanent Pyro/Electro aura. It's optimal to kill both at the same time but I find that its less stressful to just kill one fast and deal with the other one. As long as you clear within ~1:30, you should still have time to clear the other half.
    3. Put Sucrose/Venti on the 2nd half as Samurais can't be CC'd. Fatuis on the other hand, can. Have your Sucrose/Venti burst ready by the time the Mirror Maiden comes out and it'll stagger her from teleporting. Freezing helps keep her in place. Getting marked by Mirror Maiden will make her immune to staggering but not freeze.
    4. High Tide Low Tide will mess with your switches and bursts. Choosing ER buff card and Favonius weapons will help regen energy when it's available.
    5. Use Cryo/Pyro to get rid of Electro Aura. You can't proc reactions (melt, vaporize, etc.) with electro aura on enemies = less damage.
    6. Maximizing damage is key for this floor. Aside from vaporize/melt reactions, reducing enemy resistance (4 VV shred, Zhongli shield shred etc) and attack boosts (Bennett Q, TTDS, 4 Noblesse, 4 Tenacity etc) helps a lot.
    7. XQ over Mona for Ayaka's hydro support (longer hydro application + damage)
    8. Always try and face the wall against Maguu Kenki so when he steps back for clone attack he'll be stuck against the wall making him an optimal target for Ayaka's Q to not miss.
    Apart from these, as long as you get 3 stars on chamber 1, I believe it's smooth sailing from there.
    *Check out my other 2.0 Spiral Abyss runs!:*
    Floor 9+10: ruclips.net/video/6LjsA-wJNZw/видео.html
    Floor 11: ruclips.net/video/OzFYSCBdLlg/видео.html
    Floor 12 (Ganyu/Ayaka): ruclips.net/video/ugCLApxcvjo/видео.html
    Floor 12 (Hu Tao/Ganyu): ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html
    =========📌Timestamps📌========
    0:00 Floor 12 Team Selection
    0:08 Floor 12 Chamber 1 First Half
    1:42 Floor 12 Chamber 1 Second Half
    3:18 Floor 12 Chamber 2 First Half
    4:23 Floor 12 Chamber 2 Second Half
    6:18 Floor 12 Chamber 3 First Half
    7:41 Floor 12 Chamber 3 Second Half
    9:00 Ganyu's Build
    9:21 Xiangling's Build
    9:42 Bennett's Build
    10:03 Zhongli's Build
    10:24 Ayaka's Build
    10:45 Xingqiu's Build
    11:06 Sucrose's Build
    11:27 Diona's Build
    11:48 Outro

    • @varnaproject946
      @varnaproject946 3 года назад +2

      I have Exactly same team as you. And i suggest to do melt ganyu on bottom and ayaka on top,it will be easier

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      @@varnaproject946 Actually just found this out myself a couple of days ago so I went and tested it out myself. Yes. It is faster!
      Freeze Ayaka 1st Half: ruclips.net/video/27ciX8Nkbtc/видео.html
      Melt Ganyu 2nd Half: ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html

  • @Obeox
    @Obeox 3 года назад +139

    Not having Ganyu makes me sad. I took a break with the game right before her release 😭I can’t wait for her banner rerun

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +20

      Don't go copium like other people and settle for "free Ganyu" next patch (doesn't even make sense) ☠ Go get her!

    • @Obeox
      @Obeox 3 года назад +9

      @@zohruii I’ll get her. And I need Qiqi as well, so I can have the coconut milk power on my side.

    • @AzA609
      @AzA609 3 года назад +6

      Same. I also took a break. I missed Ganyu, Zhongli and Xiao, but it's all good now because I have Ayaka and Zhongli (rerun).

    • @makii4772
      @makii4772 3 года назад

      when is her rerun

    • @joshuwu1523
      @joshuwu1523 3 года назад +1

      @@makii4772 I would ask chef boyardee 👨‍🍳

  • @kaito991
    @kaito991 3 года назад +16

    I was gonna give up this Abyss' 12th flr and just settle at 6 stars but thankfully I saw your video. I just changed my team comps (was using Hu Tao team + Ayaka team at first) and switched my melt Ganyu comp with Hu Tao team, and damn Ganyu just literally melts everything lol. I forgot how strong melt comp was despite building it first for Ganyu before since I had fun with morgana comp the previous cycles haha.
    Anw, kudos to your channel and this vid! :D

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Glad I could help! Actually I have a run using HT on first half posted but the algorithm didn't pick that one up.

    • @kaito991
      @kaito991 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii Ooohhh glad to know! I'll check it now to see what I am doing wrong with my Hu Tao comp hahaha thanks again! :D

    • @agematics1105
      @agematics1105 3 года назад

      awh man if only I have Ganyu😔

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      @@agematics1105 Ganyu isn't necessary to clear Abyss. You can search up people clearing F12 with 4 stars characters and 3 star weapons 😂 It's all in your artifact quality and team comps.

  • @새연-g9p
    @새연-g9p 3 года назад +5

    Tysm for this! I have those chars you used, but I just need more time to gear them up first. You deserve more subs!!

  • @reynerestebanb.h4014
    @reynerestebanb.h4014 3 года назад +1

    Brutal friend nice video

  • @bintangmalam5705
    @bintangmalam5705 3 года назад +14

    I dont have zhongli, but watching this make me sure of 2 things:
    1. 2 wanderer 2 blizard is not a bad idea
    2. I'll need noelle for my second shielder

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Remember to swap both teams together. Check pinned comments where I posted vids of the swap.
      If you have Diona, replace ZL with her. For Diona’s replacement, go with Kaeya/Rosaria. You’ll have no heal or shield but you’re freezing everything anyways and surely you can dodge attacks anyways. Riskier but higher dmg potential.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Building Noelle as a shieldbot is kind of a waste of resources but you kinda don't have any other option. I still suggest finding team comps that don't require shields OR make use of Geo Resonance to at least make some use out of her besides the shield.

    • @bintangmalam5705
      @bintangmalam5705 3 года назад

      Luckily I got diona, but thats it. Only 1 team can use her in abyss. My other option is my xin yan and perhaps mama ning.
      I'm also plan the shield for eula team since on charge period, i think i might got quiet a lot of hit

  • @Anthony-jg6pg
    @Anthony-jg6pg 3 года назад +20

    We legit have the same builds and constellations. except my ayaka and ganyu don't have max talents, guess that's what I should invest my time into.

  • @NicoR24601
    @NicoR24601 3 года назад +14

    Awesome run, I used freeze Ayaka on the first half and Melt Ganyu on the second, you can burst down the 2 Nobushi's with an ayaka burst and few follow up attacks, and Ganyu works better for Maguu Kenki (imo). I also tested Ganyu on the first half and could get the 9 stars but it was harder for me than in reverse.
    I agree that Xingqiu is better than Mona for Ayaka haha.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      I tried Freeze Ayaka on first half in my initial runs. Just couldn't burst both same time and it got frustrating that I just went with Ganyu. Glad to know it works tho.

    • @ploaiepluvo933
      @ploaiepluvo933 3 года назад

      Both are lethal in both chambers tbh,

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Ok tried Melt Ganyu second half and I can confirm. It's faster than being on first half 👌

    • @NicoR24601
      @NicoR24601 3 года назад

      @@zohruii hahaha, yeah, once you get the hang of it is faster, or at least more confortable.

    • @NicoR24601
      @NicoR24601 3 года назад

      @@ploaiepluvo933 Yeah, both are beasts so it's just a thing of a more confortable clear.

  • @MrBookluck
    @MrBookluck 3 года назад +6

    I run the exact same melt comp. Ganyu has been carrying me through abyss for so long lmao.

  • @jacoblol901
    @jacoblol901 3 года назад +2

    saving for that ganyu rerun, have a guranteed as well. can’t wait 😌

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Hopefully she comes in 2.2 🙏

  • @adjiegi
    @adjiegi 3 года назад +14

    Wow your Ganyu is strong. I hope that you can add more constellation for Ganyu on her next rerun. Wish you all the best.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +5

      Thanks! But I'm not planning on getting her extra constellations. As low spender, I'd rather have new characters than constellations. Ganyu is perfectly fine at C0 imo. The only thing I could do now is farm a full Shimenawa's Reminiscence set for her since I couldn't give her a 4 pc WT set for the longest time now.

    • @noejrs
      @noejrs 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii a bad luck then 😆. . .My Ganyu WT still maxed at 48% CR + 208% CDMG (2.5k atk with pyro resonance)

  • @jedidiha
    @jedidiha 3 года назад +2

    i've finally 9 starred floor 12 thanks to you :)

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Glad to know it helped!

  • @eiraiden7437
    @eiraiden7437 3 года назад +1

    All those honkai bgms 🥺🥰

  • @venar4248
    @venar4248 3 года назад +2

    Holy fuck that burst is unbelievable 8:27

  • @ttmsmitty
    @ttmsmitty 3 года назад +2

    That is such a odd set to run on ganyu but it works great stuff dude!

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Even guides on YT don't recommend 2WT - just 2Glad. For Melt Ganyu, extra 80 EM > +18% ATK.

  • @chestnut6579
    @chestnut6579 3 года назад +2

    Me having the exact same teams but with Crap Artifacts: Welp back to the meat grinder

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Stay strong.

  • @alyxlawliet2529
    @alyxlawliet2529 3 года назад +1

    Well I don’t have Morgana comp, and surprisingly my Ganyu team is the same as you (team comp/lv), just a little bit inferior. I’m gonna build second team like this too. Big like! Playing on iPad is quite hard for me to clear this stage so fast, but this video helps me a lot, thank you! (despite the fact that I still cannot get stars from Floor 12, as my Klee and Keqing cant beat these monsters quickly…)

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Consider watching my new vid where I use Ayaka team on first half instead. I found out its faster if I switch these two teams together! Please consider this while building your second team.
      Freeze Ayaka 1st Half: ruclips.net/video/27ciX8Nkbtc/видео.html
      Melt Ganyu 2nd Half: ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html

  • @asuutora
    @asuutora 3 года назад +10

    Ahhh I regret skipping Ayaka lol I need a cryo dps

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +3

      I suggest doing a Permafreeze team with Chongyun + Jean/Kaeya/Rosaria or Keqing as replacement for Ayaka

  • @wirza555
    @wirza555 3 года назад +2

    Zhongli is godsend for melt yangu, if only we can swap to another unit during aim mode (this caught me off guard many times when the shield break 😩). Nice video we use the same exact team for yangu and i'm planning to use her now as main dps (ning can relax for awhile 😁)

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Black Tassle Zhongli? I initially built him as burst DPS with just 1 HP% artifact + Fav Lance. Most people build him with triple HP% + Black Tassle but I find it wasteful that he isn't doing any damage so I built him in-between (1 HP% artifact + Black Tassle) Pretty good shield strength still at lvl 8 talent

    • @wirza555
      @wirza555 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii I'm using deathmatch + triple HP% artifacts since i have a really good 4pc noblesse set (43315 HP, 68.6cr and 138.6cdmg) his burst it's a waste if not crits imo it deals a good dmg ~47k, both talent is lvl 9. I'm playing at shotgun range since my eyesight is bad, try not to dodge when XL and Bennett burst active (except sprint anim. cancel) + those bazzilion visual effects make it harder to aim (even zhongli shield as well) and ofc floor 12 hits like a truck lol.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      @@wirza555 You might be aiming longer because the shield obstructs with your sights and that's why you're getting interrupted with broken shield. I'm kinda the same 😂

  • @unlucky58
    @unlucky58 3 года назад

    That reverse melt triggered me so much.

  • @skye4942
    @skye4942 3 года назад +36

    I’m planning on getting Ganyu on her rerun. Do you think I could replace Xiangling with Klee in this teamcomp? Since my Xiangling hasn’t been built 😅

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +18

      Xiangling has better pyro application than Klee tho I've seen Klee as pyro applicator in some videos so it should still work. Swap in an Anemo (Sucrose/Kazuha/Venti) to compensate for that - your choice between Bennett (you lose ATK boost + pyro resonance) or Zhongli (you lose shield so you have to dodge more + 20% shred).

    • @dolphinzrnice
      @dolphinzrnice 3 года назад +8

      you don’t need a high investment xiangling for this comp. i used the same comp with lvl70 xiangling lvl60 weapon, all you need is to put er artifacts on her to spam burst off cooldown so she can apply pyro for melt

    • @disterben
      @disterben 3 года назад +2

      if you're using a low investment xiangling you can play reverse melt instead by not using ganyu's burst. The overall dps is still similar to melt from the comparisons and math.

    • @lia-qh2dz
      @lia-qh2dz 3 года назад +1

      honestly you dont need to invest in xiangling that much just slap on an energy recharge weapon and sands and youre good to go

  • @drazihrac
    @drazihrac 3 года назад +1

    This is exactly my team comp rn lmaoo

  • @nai7433
    @nai7433 3 года назад +1

    Thx bro

  • @hiki420
    @hiki420 3 года назад +3

    the beat drop 7:12 though

  • @gehaxchong5052
    @gehaxchong5052 3 года назад +2

    Had 36 stars with exact reverse same team by switching xiangling with venti

  • @d7omi111
    @d7omi111 3 года назад +8

    your team combs are like mine except that I have venti and mona instead of sucrose and xingqiu. I think sucrose is better than venti in the last chamber tbh

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +3

      I'm guessing the reason for this is the low and high tide restricting Venti's Q from being spammed?

    • @harizsyazani1734
      @harizsyazani1734 3 года назад

      for energy yes venti is good

    • @johnmaineching9384
      @johnmaineching9384 3 года назад

      It can be spammed, just need to managed. Plus damage wise, venti is superior to sucrose as sucrose added elemental mastery will add nothing to freeze comps

  • @andrewjamez9741
    @andrewjamez9741 3 года назад +1

    Whats better?
    2pc Glad 2 pc blizzard - 39/230
    4 pc blizzard - 39/220
    4 pc Shimenawa - 45/200
    4 pc wanderer's - 20/200 (unfinished, no flower/feather yet)

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      I'm assuming this is for Ganyu? Shimenawa

  • @komipun9562
    @komipun9562 3 года назад +2

    Dude your ganyu deals more damage than mine even though i have skyward harp

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Might be the +90% ATK from buff cards

  • @ventiladrawr
    @ventiladrawr 3 года назад +1

    i have a guarantee on my next pulls so hopefully i can still get hutao after i get ganyu and i won't stop grinding before their reruns

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Mihoyo only teasing Thoma yesterday means next patch is 2 rerun banners instead of the rumored 1 rerun + Yae. Let's hope it's not Ganyu and Hu Tao back to back 🙏

    • @ventiladrawr
      @ventiladrawr 3 года назад

      @@zohruii yeah i rlly hope they're not back to back

  • @dimassetiawan5194
    @dimassetiawan5194 3 года назад +4

    Why are you waiting magu kenki to stand up, you can attack him to collect energy while still sit tho

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      I only fought Maguu Kenki two times for the 1.6 event checklist. Thanks for the tip! As you can see in video, I had a brain fart 😂

  • @zacchsplash
    @zacchsplash 3 года назад +1

    Im more impressed by triple EM sands/goblet/circlet on your sucrose lol that domain has not been good to me

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Don't trash your 4 star EM artifacts. Use them instead and call it a day like me 😂

  • @chenchanamakusa3971
    @chenchanamakusa3971 3 года назад +1

    can u tell me what song u used at the end? when u show us ur build?

  • @dyssodia
    @dyssodia 3 года назад +1

    Whose a good f2p replacement for zhongli?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Diona/Noelle is your only choice.

    • @dyssodia
      @dyssodia 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii thank you!

  • @sabigyoza
    @sabigyoza 3 года назад +2

    I use melt ganyu since abyss 1.5 with no shield instead zongli i bring sucrose cuz i miss zongli 2 times T_T

  • @har.jasmine5494
    @har.jasmine5494 3 года назад +6

    Btw what's the best artifact set for melt ayaka in your opinion? I wanna use ganyu for freeze instead.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +6

      Imo, Melt Ayaka doesn't work as good as Melt Ganyu. One problem is ICD of attacks - Ayaka hits multiple times quick and only the first hit will melt compared to Ganyu who's CA has to charge - by the time you fire the shot, your shots will melt. Freeze Ayaka>Freeze Ganyu imo having used both just because of mobility and Ayaka's Q (deals ~6 Ganyu CA worth of dmg in 5 secs)
      BiS for Melt Ayaka is 2 BS + 2 Glad/Shimenawa. Aim for 50+% CR because you won't have 4 BS CR bonus. Go with ATK sands over EM sands for the reason that Ayaka won't melt all her shots unlike with Ganyu.

    • @har.jasmine5494
      @har.jasmine5494 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii Xiangling and Kazuha pyro application isn't fast enough? Should i just use Venti in ayaka's team for faster swirl? I really don't want to have to go freeze build on both of them because i only have like 2 or 3 good blizzard pieces.

    • @har.jasmine5494
      @har.jasmine5494 3 года назад

      @@zohruii But if its really not good, i guess I'll just go melt ganyu 👌🏻

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      @@har.jasmine5494 I mean some RUclipsrs say Melt Ayaka is viable and few say not (just the ones I watch tho). At the end of the day, what matters is what you find fun is best.
      I've never seen Venti in melt comps before so Venti for Freeze and Kazuha for Melt I guess?

    • @noejrs
      @noejrs 3 года назад

      @@har.jasmine5494 Ganyu CA multiplier overcome Ayaka in melt team.
      *Also why Ganyu better than Ayaka with melt. .cz it's easy to make Ganyu the one deal melt not the opposite. but Ayaka (especially her Burst) just too fast applicant.

  • @scaramochiii
    @scaramochiii 3 года назад +1

    We have the same freeze team comp of ayaka 😭💖✨

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      XQ > Mona gang! 🙌

    • @weiling9624
      @weiling9624 3 года назад

      Xiuqiu chongyun xiangling is the three best sub dps
      Consider 5 star as i always use this three get 36star in spiral abyss

  • @superjonnchew7739
    @superjonnchew7739 2 года назад +2

    Can I full star if my Zhongli full hp xiangling full er and Bennett hp and er?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  2 года назад +1

      It all depends on your Ganyu's build since she's the one dealing most of the DMG
      Good 2WT/2BS or 4WT set with 60/180 CR CD +250 EM will do the trick

    • @superjonnchew7739
      @superjonnchew7739 2 года назад +1

      @@zohruii Rn she have 260 em 2.1k attack 59 crit 195 cdmg 4p wt crowned na should I make her stats to 1.9k attack 71 crit 170 cdmg 280 em?

    • @superjonnchew7739
      @superjonnchew7739 2 года назад +1

      My xiangling have 270 er and Bennett have 230 er i think they can get their burst easy

    • @superjonnchew7739
      @superjonnchew7739 2 года назад +1

      @@zohruii also should I use Ganyu burst?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  2 года назад

      @@superjonnchew7739 No it'll mess up melts. Use only to i-frame enemy attacks in emergency

  • @Reizeey
    @Reizeey 3 года назад +3

    Damn i have all of this team comp and weapons but still cant clear 36 star, cause im playin on mobile so i cant get a good rotation😩😩

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Have you tried using controllers? I heard they improve the mobile experience

  • @barakprayogi5651
    @barakprayogi5651 3 года назад +1

    finally ayaka aquila. Im tired seeing mitsplitter

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Poor gang rise up! 😂

  • @juanmanuelperalta9077
    @juanmanuelperalta9077 3 года назад +1

    Who is better for buff, Venti or sacross

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Venti is more for CC while Sucrose for both CC and buff. If you have Elegy for the End though, Venti can both CC and buff better than Sucrose.

  • @lolavaros2829
    @lolavaros2829 3 года назад +1

    I have ayaka and im planning to get ganyu on her rerun. Is okay to have ayaka and ganyu? Feel like to much cryo but i like both of them

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Was in the same boat but I pulled nonetheless and I don't regret it. Ayaka is better in a freeze comp than Ganyu. And Ganyu can run melt team so she doesn't overlap with Ayaka's freeze team 👌

    • @lolavaros2829
      @lolavaros2829 3 года назад

      @@zohruii Yes!! Ayaka freeze is much better than ganyu. Her kit is like speciality for freeze. I guess i can use ayaka for freeze ganyu for melt and support. I pulled for ayaka because her kit is very fun and i need full cryo dps TwT

  • @ashkicap
    @ashkicap 3 года назад +3

    I got Melt Ganyu comp already, but I sort of reluctant to pull for Ayaka because she's a cryo too. Is Freeze Ayaka really good? I got 100% pity anyway if I ever wanted to pull it.

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +2

      I pulled for Ayaka even with a Ganyu because I haven't pulled for a character in 3 months and Genshin gets boring with content drought. There were also rumors of her being bad but I still pulled anyway and didn't regret it (if only Baal wasn't next smh). Character, design, playstyle and JP VA were bonuses for me. Waifu > Meta but if Waifu is Meta its a plus 👍
      If you don't have Venti & Mona (you're using XQ and Sucrose), then I'd say Ayaka is better in a Freeze comp compared to Ganyu. Ganyu applying Hydro with XQ feels weird (1 NA then CA) while its natural in melee with Ayaka. Ayaka does short bursts of damage + a large one with her burst while Ganyu does consistent damage over a longer period of time. But its a proven fact that Morgana (Ganyu, Venti, Mona, Diona) is the 2nd best team in the game rn. The current best team is Morganya (Ganyu, Venti, Mona, Ayaka) actually - if you pull for Ayaka, you can just convert Ganyu into support (not optimal) if you have another DPS for Abyss. At least you get to play both instead of benching the other.

    • @ashkicap
      @ashkicap 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii thanks! I've pulled her! My situation is I got a lot of dps but really depends on shield for both team. My previous dps is ganyu and klee, and without shield for both, is really nightmare. Diona's shield is a bit fragile even I give full HP arti with 2set tenacity. Now maybe I can get Diona in Ayaka's team cuz permafreeze team don't really need permashield anyway. And Klee can go to Ganyu's team. I got Mona but her hydro application is really short so I use Xq. No Venti/Kazuha unfortunately.

  • @minhan7377
    @minhan7377 3 года назад +4

    Use Team Ganyu and Hutao in Floor 12 please

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +2

      I can try in the next couple of days but no promises. If I can't, try this team out I planned:
      1st Half: HT, XQ, Kaeya, Diona (Key here is to Melt whenever you Q with HT to optimize damage vs Nobushis)
      2nd Half: Melt Ganyu like in video (try Freeze Ganyu if you have Mona)

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html

  • @darking294
    @darking294 3 года назад +1

    If I don't have Zhongli, why can I change him?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Take Diona from Ayaka team and replace with another Cryo (Chongyun/Kaeya) OR raise a Noelle with DEF DEF DEF artifacts. Not optimal but choices are limited. Melt Ganyu wants shield unless you're really good at dodging.

  • @Shinji-R
    @Shinji-R 3 года назад +1

    me only have kazuha,ayaka 😢 i comleat only 12-2 not have 2nd dps 😢..
    i start recenntly Ar 52

  • @weiling9624
    @weiling9624 3 года назад +1

    Manage to get 34 star for new spiral abyss
    Yes use ayaka and ganyu cryo supremency
    Get floor 12-1 3star others is 2

  • @ploaiepluvo933
    @ploaiepluvo933 3 года назад +3

    I guess ill have to use kazuha with ayaka ;c, I'll build xiangling so I can do melt better instead of bennett kazu for ganyu
    Ayaka mona kazuha diona
    Ganyu XL bennett zhongli

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Sounds good! Seeing everyone with Kazuha makes me regret not pulling. Why did he have to be a guy and right before Ayaka? 😭

    • @agematics1105
      @agematics1105 3 года назад

      @@zohruii i know right. I'm waiting for his rerun now

  • @emrysvikrant7836
    @emrysvikrant7836 3 года назад +3

    Why tf my buff only have +80 em? I cant pass it.. Fuck this new abyss

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +2

      I feel you. You also have to reset from start the next day to get new cards instead of new cards appearing on the floor your stopped which sucks.
      80 EM is like +5~7% CDMG equivalent (depending on how high your EM is) for vape/melt.

  • @alexdexter7800
    @alexdexter7800 3 года назад

    that's funny I ran the exact same 2 teams

  • @noroomforyou7454
    @noroomforyou7454 3 года назад +1

    a team like this but still right on time at 420. no wonder im out of time. they tanky as hellllllll

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Oh no I played this run very wrong - see the pinned comment. TL;DR: It's faster if you switch both sides and there's a grouping strategy for 12-1 that'll help you beat both Nobushis same time.

  • @faylure7834
    @faylure7834 3 года назад +1

    Wait how did u get that ur music is playing thing on bottom left ?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      I made png then just simple slide in slide out. Inspired by the android Spotify notification from years back.

  • @awakentheflamepodcast5995
    @awakentheflamepodcast5995 3 года назад +1

    Can I use Noelle instead of Zhongli?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      It's not optimal but you kinda have no other choice. It's help if your Noelle was C6 at least. Stack lots of DEF on her. The game needs more shielders of different elements imo.

  • @Kevopat
    @Kevopat 3 года назад +1

    What makes it a little frustrating for me are Sucrose and Ayaka. I have both, but their builds are not good. Really need to farm for Ayaka and I'm not sure how to correctly build Sucrose I always think it's not the right combination of stats and sub stats :(

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Sucrose is fairly easy to build. 4VV - substats (tho finding some EM doesn't hurt) and rarity don't matter (I use 4 star). EM/EM/EM main stat.
      Though for a freeze build, EM doesn't matter so if you're exclusively using Sucrose in freeze team, just a 4VV set with garbage subs will work. ER weapon/sands to get more Q bursts

    • @Kevopat
      @Kevopat 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii thank you 👏🏻🤝🏻

    • @johnmaineching9384
      @johnmaineching9384 3 года назад +1

      You can also equip ttds on sucrose for added attack on ayaka

  • @kelvinputra4922
    @kelvinputra4922 3 года назад

    My God is exactly my compo team, but i only got 4 star lmao

  • @naproxen.
    @naproxen. 3 года назад +3

    I don't have ganyu and my xiangling is only level 60, will yanfei be a good Pyro applicator?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +4

      I don't think Melt Ganyu's team comp would suit Yanfei as main DPS (is that what you meant?) Yanfei wouldn't work as pyro applicator either because she has no off field skills and is meant to be DPS only.
      I personally wouldn't use any character without 6/6/6 talents at minimum. Floor 12 is a massive DPS check and to get 9 stars, artifacts, team comp and talent levels matter a lot. Build your XL more! She's not a bad investment at all.

  • @insaecticides
    @insaecticides 3 года назад +2

    Why are you using Xiangling's ult before Bennett's ult? Is there a specific reason?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +5

      Oh no it's just a bad habit of mine. I keep forgetting when I'm actually doing Abyss.

  • @firby7341
    @firby7341 3 года назад +1

    is there a reason succrose doesnt use thrilling dragon tales r5 in a freeze comp?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Good spot. I simply don’t run Freeze teams in the past and didn’t notice this till now

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Normal rotation: Diona E > Sucrose E> XQ E Q > Ayaka
      TTDS rotation: Xingqiu E Q > Diona E (enemy frozen) > Sucrose E > Ayaka
      I heard that swirling a frozen enemy does not consistently swirl cry and that Mona is more suited for TTDS. Thoughts on this?

    • @firby7341
      @firby7341 3 года назад

      @@zohruii i personally never had problems with the swirls. for infusion (burst) there is actually a priority for elements, but swirl usually swirls everything. also, you didnt use mona so why did you mention that? the EM substat from sacrificial would only benefit succroses swirl damage, since the freeze reaction doesnt benefit from her shared EM to the team, and even with only two times using her Elemental skill, you should be fine energywise. i dont see a benefit using sacrificial succrose in freeze

  • @ohok8615
    @ohok8615 3 года назад +1

    Is ayaka good using aquila favonia?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      If you don't have Mistsplitter and you have 140 ER from your artifact substats, yes its good.

    • @imnotnut7981
      @imnotnut7981 2 года назад

      Give it to Bennett

  • @SamiiHidalgo
    @SamiiHidalgo 3 года назад +1

    about Ayaka, why do you use this sword? isnt better the inazuma sword?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Think of Aquila as a Blackcliff Longsword (best 4* on her) with 3 stacks permanently activated. Amenoma is still a good option IF you can’t find ER substats in your artifacts (120+ ER recommended) But generally, Blackcliff outdamages it.

  • @Icecream-om6ss
    @Icecream-om6ss 3 года назад +1

    Thats really close

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      This was before the grouping strategy was released. It's better if both teams are swapped. I could now beat it with 45 secs wiggle room.
      Ganyu 2nd half: ruclips.net/video/rTkjif69qrY/видео.html
      Ayaka 1st half: ruclips.net/video/27ciX8Nkbtc/видео.html

  • @zaizhirong
    @zaizhirong 3 года назад +1

    Whats the best artifacts for Melt Ganyu? 4WT better or 2BS + 2WT?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      4 Shimenawa > 4 WT > 2BS 2WT/2Glad/2Shimenawa

  • @torixeu
    @torixeu 3 года назад +3

    Is 37 crit rate with 206 crit damage (4WT) enough for ganyu?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      It's unfortunately too low. If you have some blizzard pieces, I'd go 2 BS 2 WT (works better if you have better CR/CD ratio than 4WT imo)

    • @torixeu
      @torixeu 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii ok, i think 37% crit rate plus ganyu's talent (+20% crit rate) will be enough, tq bro

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +2

      @@torixeu Imo 50% (+20% CR) is the target for Ganyu to do consistent crits (1 in every 3 shots won't crit) where as with 37 (+20% CR) that's 1 in every other shot won't crit.

    • @Stxrbolts
      @Stxrbolts 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii thank you. I was hoping to find an explanation like this.

  • @simoncao5924
    @simoncao5924 3 года назад +1

    Why you put sucro#e in a freeze team ??

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Swirl cryo to shred cryo resistance

  • @whoiam8653
    @whoiam8653 3 года назад +1

    Song name pls

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      It's in description and on the bottom left of the video thnx

  • @ronaldlopez8234
    @ronaldlopez8234 3 года назад +1

    Bro I got almost same build as u, 52 crit, 184 crit dmg, bow r4, 2.8k atk, atk talent 10, same team with some diff, but máx melt is like 45kk and u got like 80kk I dont know what im doing wrong :c

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      What’s your EM?

    • @ronaldlopez8234
      @ronaldlopez8234 3 года назад

      Around 60 but even if I had em 2 peces set still dont have almost 300 like u, and ur set doesnt give u that much, how u did it??

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      @@ronaldlopez8234 2 pc WT gives 80 EM. EM sands gives 187. That's 267 just from those two alone. Anything above 300 EM gives diminishing returns.
      You'd be surprised at how much damage EM gives compared to just stacking CD. But getting EM sands from WT that's usable needs extreme luck. I have the worst luck with WT and Glad artifacts. Those 2 you see on my Ganyu is 2 of 3 "usable" pieces in my ~10 months of playing. I suggest just going for an ATK sands and find the EM from substats. Around 150~ should give you better damage than your current build.

    • @ronaldlopez8234
      @ronaldlopez8234 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii thanks for ur reply bro, ill try 😅

    • @ronaldlopez8234
      @ronaldlopez8234 3 года назад

      I tried but still to far from 85k, melt with sighly diferent stats, and what is curious to me is that, on sec 37 aprox, ur normal charged shots no buff or maybe with noblese 4 pieces hits almost 30k, mine with my set, (stats mentioned above) ± bennet ult lvl 11, max is 26k charged is so I still scratching my head on what im doing diferent from ur gameplay, maybe dmg is capped or changed on diff platforms, im on ps4 btw, ill do some research bcuz its super weird to me xd

  • @equiloilo
    @equiloilo 3 года назад +2

    i have better stats and can't do it, how am I so bad in this game?😭😭😭😭

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Mobile player?

  • @yeet159
    @yeet159 3 года назад +1

    If you don't have zhongli for the ganyu melt team, do you have a hard time staying alive? Asking for a future reference

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Yes you have to dodge more without shield. Ganyu is quite fragile and you have to get really close to enemies to apply pyro with Xiangling's Q. Sucrose helps apply Pyro AoE and was what I used to use without Zhongli (Kazuha/Venti will swirl better). Hopefully an off field AoE pyro support comes in the future.

    • @yeet159
      @yeet159 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii ty (think I'll use sucrose for now)

  • @eggsbennedit6373
    @eggsbennedit6373 3 года назад +1

    Ok, you are AR57 but... those teams ate basically f2p :O
    I mean... at AR57 you may have some 5* weapons, I have 2 jade spears at AR56, and most of the weapons and characters were 4*, great!
    I am AR56 and don't have bennett lol

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Oh I'm just a light spender. I only have Aquila Favonia as my 5 star weapon. Got 2 Jeans 1 Keqing from standard. Never rolled on weapon banner.
      Luckily I got all my Bennetts from standard because I never rolled on a banner with him. 😂

  • @ainzgrey6100
    @ainzgrey6100 3 года назад +2

    Why does the most broken character have to have charged shot playstlye,like her design, character but because of playstlye I won't pull her on rerun

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +4

      To each their own. I quite enjoyed the charged shot playstyle when I first got her. There was a thrill of her being so fragile that she'd die from one Stone Lawachurl earthquake for example but hits hard in return - High risk high reward. Now with the shield characters, I only experience that thrill during events like Legend of Vagabond where shields matter less but still I've never been put off by her playstyle even now.

  • @VilltonZenaku
    @VilltonZenaku 3 года назад +1

    Why not use kazuha instead of xiangling in ganyu team?
    Edit: oops, it seems like I mistake someone else lol don’t mind me

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +5

      If only Kazuha was a female and he didn't come before Ayaka, would have rolled 😔

    • @VilltonZenaku
      @VilltonZenaku 3 года назад +3

      @@zohruii a waifu over meta I see, gonna get yoimiya or upcoming char baal, Sara and Kokomi?

    • @VilltonZenaku
      @VilltonZenaku 3 года назад

      @@zohruii says between hamayumi bow and cresent bow, which one better on ganyu?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +2

      @@VilltonZenaku Baal (50/50) and Yae Miko is my plan. Kinda want to build something non Pyro/Cryo for once

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      @@VilltonZenaku Crescent is still the bow for Ganyu in general cases (enemies with weakspots) imo. Hamayumi's a niche case - 1. Only for Melt Ganyu (you don't use ult anyways because it ruins reverse melt) and 2. Only when you're up against enemies with no weakspots does it outdamage Crescent.
      I already have Crescent at R5 and I could forge R3 Hamayumi but I'm not gonna bother tbh.

  • @swev3npubgm664
    @swev3npubgm664 3 года назад

    Mizo ni em

  • @mion6555
    @mion6555 3 года назад +4

    i run same comp😂melts ganyu and frezee ayaka,but use jean instead zongli!

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      I see you have great taste in waifus 😏

    • @mion6555
      @mion6555 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii yeah,i skip zongli banner twice,last i save for eula,cryo supremacy 😅!

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Eula was hard to resist but Zhongli defies all logic ✝

  • @koneko--3175
    @koneko--3175 3 года назад

    Phis Ayaka?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      AF is just a stat stick

  • @Alanchango
    @Alanchango 3 года назад

    i don´t understand, my ayaka has better stats and deals less damage than this one ; u ;

  • @asdf2asdf
    @asdf2asdf 3 года назад +1

    57ar c1 bennet

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      Never pulled on any banner with Bennett. Mihoyo puts Bennett on banners they think won't sell well afterall. All my Bennetts came from standard luckily.

  • @febibagussaputra
    @febibagussaputra 3 года назад

    I always get triggered when you using Xianling burst before Bennet burst. 😂

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад

      😂I'll try and put him on slot 4 next time

  • @jhunnyorcampos4051
    @jhunnyorcampos4051 3 года назад +1

    Wtf is that Ganyu dmg i have Amos and never get that
    Build

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      Might be the +90% ATK from the abyss buffs I chose

  • @JinzoWinchester35
    @JinzoWinchester35 3 года назад +1

    Wtffff ganyu build

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      It's just 2BS 2WT set instead of 4WT. Hopefully there's better luck in farming Shimenawa's Reminiscence

  • @joey3664
    @joey3664 3 года назад +1

    melt ganyu is kinda scuffed i think. having 1.30 secs on first half 12-1 is kinda lame to me

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +4

      Fair. I was able to clear this 30 secs earlier in my previous runs but failed on the 2nd half so I just went with the run that cleared. At 1:06, I had choice of killing one but tried to lower HP of the other one so I can kill both at the same time but failed.

    • @joey3664
      @joey3664 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii at least your ayaka made it well on 2nd phase, good run btw.

  • @ICICUNO
    @ICICUNO 3 года назад

    Feel like your charged attack spam is more DPS than your Zhongli burst. Why not just not use it? :P

  • @yoursistersaccount1638
    @yoursistersaccount1638 3 года назад +1

    I take a lot of inspo from ur videos and lately I've been wanting to use yanfei but xq has my hutao in a chokehold and I was wondering if reverse melt ganyu would be a good idea for a team with yanfei as the aura and ganyu as the trigger and off field carry

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      I don’t think it’ll work as you’ll still only going to be melting every 2-3 secs. Who’s going to melt/reverse melt is also random due to how much pyro/cryo both apply. If you have C4 Yanfei tho, there’s a niche community of people who use her as shield bot (Q gives her shield) Just stack HP ER HP on artifacts and HP weapon. Go Ganyu-XL-Sucrose/Bennett-Yanfei. Video on Yanfei like this soon

    • @yoursistersaccount1638
      @yoursistersaccount1638 3 года назад +1

      @@zohruii alright thank you so much for responding i think ill just do the standard melt ganyu team and hope i can use yanfei for something else love ur videos keep up the good work

  • @natalydiazangeles1999
    @natalydiazangeles1999 3 года назад +1

    What character can I use insted of zhongli in the first team?

    • @zohruii
      @zohruii  3 года назад +1

      2 routes you can take.
      1) I want a shield - Build a Noelle with DEF sands/DEF goblet/DEF circlet OR take Diona on Ayaka's team (replace with Kaeya/Rosaria)
      2) I have Kazuha/Venti - You'll have to learn to dodge more but still doable