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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024
  • Moon Knight is crazy. Literally insane. But the stories surrounding Moon Knight's mental illness can help shed some light on problems and flaws with our real life criminal justice system. What happens if a brain disorder makes you do something you don't want to do? Are you at fault? Is blameworthiness even the best method to punish criminals, or should we focus on the probability that the perpetrator will commit future crimes? Marc Spector's Moon Knight can help us discuss all of these tough questions!
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  • @JasonRBeing
    @JasonRBeing 8 лет назад +319

    The 'Luna-tic' pun isn't really a pun! In the late 1800s-early 1900s doctors actually thought some diseases/conditions were affected by/caused by the moon. So people with certain mental disorders were called Lunatics, because of the moon (luna).

  • @sjw4life546
    @sjw4life546 8 лет назад +372

    This is why we need a moon knight Netflix series. We could explore the themes of mental illness and the criminal justice system in the same way we examined sexual assault in JJ. Also, a moon knight series would just be freakin cool!

    • @reddragon0624
      @reddragon0624 7 лет назад +2

      SJW 4LIFE
      Anhhhhh....my dick
      I need this show so bad

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 6 лет назад +6

      Hmmm, I wonder if the introduction of con chu (I'm not sure how one spells that) could be employed. Perhaps it would just be a fiction of the moon Knights mind, perhaps that fact that there are non asgardans gods in the MCU will give rise to the idea of other pantheons. Maybe they could leave the moon gods true nature between reality and delusion up to speculation

    • @Cicadareal
      @Cicadareal 6 лет назад +1

      It would almost be like a Dexter vibe

    • @The-eo4lj
      @The-eo4lj 6 лет назад +1

      thatphilwhiteguide no way it would be like Dexter, Dexter is bloody great(heh), Netflix would probably think that a white guy dressed in all white calling himself Moon Night is racist, so they would either never do it or they would have a black actor play the role.. like they are doing for Romans and Greeks, it's absurd

    • @theblackwidower
      @theblackwidower 6 лет назад +1

      Screw that. Film

  • @NerdSyncProductions
    @NerdSyncProductions  8 лет назад +190

    Just to be clear, this video is not about the pros and cons of pre-punishment. As I said, we will get to that later.
    I promise we'll talk about *CIVIL WAR 2, MINORITY REPORT, and PSYCHO-PASS* in _that_ video.

    • @SergioBocanegra
      @SergioBocanegra 8 лет назад +3

      Let's talk about Valiant comic's super powerd Goat next time

    • @fenriskiba
      @fenriskiba 8 лет назад +4

      +NerdSync was literally about to mention Psycho Pass lol
      *scrolls down a bit more*
      and am glad to see I wasnt the first

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  8 лет назад +7

      +Grant Carroll Literally so many people. I had to make a comment about it.

    • @z-naqvi8127
      @z-naqvi8127 8 лет назад

      +NerdSync my god did you just say psycho-pass, scott you've seen spycho-pass??

    • @UnownDepth
      @UnownDepth 8 лет назад

      Psycho-Pass game coming out this fall NS

  • @Grizabeebles
    @Grizabeebles 8 лет назад +25

    As someone who suffers from mental illness, I'd like to throw in on how we should punish crimes:
    "How much damage have they already done?" (blameworthiness)
    Assuming that we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are the individual who committed the crime, basing punishments on some POSSIBLE future is extremely unjust. Whether or not we believe someone to be responsible for their actions, protecting society (and punishing crimes) comes down to judging what a person has ALREADY done.
    Otherwise are we not punishing someone MORE harshly because of their biology rather than their actions?

  • @alexgarcia-yh7ol
    @alexgarcia-yh7ol 8 лет назад +802

    moon knight for a netflix series whose with me?

    • @nightmarston2156
      @nightmarston2156 8 лет назад +12

      me

    • @PV958
      @PV958 8 лет назад +8

      +alex garcia OMG yes!

    • @mgcarrigan
      @mgcarrigan 8 лет назад +18

      Yes. My ideal story would have a twisted theme of "is any of this real?" Momento meets American Psycho

    • @cristoffL
      @cristoffL 8 лет назад +19

      +alex garcia if thy kept it close to his crazy ass comic antics, i think it would give daredevil a run for his money.

    • @NekoStar
      @NekoStar 8 лет назад +3

      +alex garcia "Who's"* But yes, if done right, i'd watch the crap out of that~

  • @nachoolo
    @nachoolo 8 лет назад +177

    moon knight is really underated.
    Moon Knight Netflix series now!

  • @mikaalba637
    @mikaalba637 8 лет назад +78

    DYING IS EASY, YOUNG MAN, LIVING IS HARDER!!! YES, HAMILTON REFERENCE. I LOVE YOU MORE NOW.

    • @michellechang4912
      @michellechang4912 6 лет назад +4

      Mika Alba ive been scrolling thru comment section just to find dis exact comment ;D #hamilsquad

  • @vesonator
    @vesonator 8 лет назад +27

    I believe it should depend on both the severity of the crime and the criminal's mental state, this way they can receive the punishment and/or treatment they deserve.
    When it comes to considering other factors, I think previous convictions SHOULD be taken into account. If they have committed a crime, got punished for it and then committed another crime, it's obviously much more likely that they will commit it again and again. I see this as a way of reforming them rather than punishing them for a future-not-yet-committed crime

    • @marctelfer6159
      @marctelfer6159 8 лет назад +2

      +Vesko Hristov I think previous crimes should be taken into account, but not in determining guilt, which from what I understand is usually where that issue lies in regards to trials. Previous criminal activity points towards potential behavioural patters. They HAVE committed crimes in the past, so there's a chance that will happen again. However, just because they have committed a crime in the past doesn't mean that they're necessarily more likely to have committed the crime being discussed in court than someone else... probably. What I mean, basically, is that previous convictions should be taken into account during sentencing, but not during judgement since people's views of other people and evidence can be clouded by their opinions.
      As for severity of the crime and mental state, I'd agree with you on that one. If a person has been shown to have committed, say, a murder, beyond any reasonable doubt, then that person, regardless of their mental state at the time, should be considered guilty of having committed murder. You are who you are, and your brain and how it works is part of that.
      I think state of mind should be taken into account, again, predominantly during sentencing, rather than judgement, though. Evidence says you murdered someone, so some punishment must be enforced in accordance with that fact. But your mental state at the time of the crime being committed, your mental state overall and your potential to commit a crime in the future because of your mental state should all at least be attempted to be understood in order for you to, hopefully, be brought back into society.
      You've committed a crime, so, at least according to the state, you pose a threat towards wider society, so for the time being you should probably be kept away from it, you know? Just in case. But do you just lock them up, or do you try and deal with any underlying mental disorders or past trauma that might have led to that crime being committed in the first place and, in doing so, attempt to negate the potential for future crimes.
      So personally I think we need a kind of three-tier system:
      1) Only evidence regarding the crime that was committed should be included during the trial process.
      2) Past convictions should be used during sentencing in order to determine how lenient the person passing that sentence might be (I guess mostly in terms of the length of their imprisonment/rehabilitation, but it could point towards the fact that rehabilitation hasn't worked for them. I don't think it should be used as predominantly as an indication that the person who committed the crime will be more likely to do it again, just that they haven't learnt to not do it again)
      3) Mental state should be used during the sentencing in order to determine how to proceed with their rehabilitation, and possibly length of the sentence.

  • @Jfireprime
    @Jfireprime 8 лет назад +24

    I don't like Moon Knight being definitively supernatural, I prefer the ambiguity. Maybe he was actually possessed by Khonshu, maybe he is just mentally ill, maybe it's a little of both, and we as the audience get to pick the explanation we prefer.

  • @Moliminous
    @Moliminous 8 лет назад +56

    Moon man, moon man can't you see...

  • @GregStallion
    @GregStallion 8 лет назад +4

    Love Moon Knight. He's in my top 5 favorite super-heroes. All of which are Marvel (of course). And in regards to the five aspects, it's actually explained that Moon Knight's lunacy corresponds with the phases of the moon.

  • @panzercop7950
    @panzercop7950 2 года назад +4

    "DRACULA I KNOW YOUR HERE YOU FUCKING NERD"

  • @tylerbaron4909
    @tylerbaron4909 8 лет назад +121

    Watching this I demand a moon knight Netflix series

    • @nickglover8738
      @nickglover8738 8 лет назад +2

      Fuck yeah, but who would play as moon knight?

    • @jojosh6778
      @jojosh6778 8 лет назад +1

      +Nick Glover Liam Neeson?

    • @clintbarton9068
      @clintbarton9068 8 лет назад +1

      +Jos' drawing ummmm..... I don't know?

    • @Tay98
      @Tay98 8 лет назад +2

      +Jos' drawing too expensive

    • @jacobmullins2550
      @jacobmullins2550 8 лет назад +2

      Search "Anthony Starr" on IMDB. He's a great pic to play moon knight. Not too popular but also suits the character

  • @Jebbtube
    @Jebbtube 8 лет назад +77

    There is no normal.
    We're all a bit broken. Some more than others.

    • @ilikemetal2910
      @ilikemetal2910 5 лет назад +5

      Then wouldn't being broken also being normal?

    • @bamaminer4179
      @bamaminer4179 5 лет назад

      @@ilikemetal2910 well since there are thousands of differences between people witch one is normal?

  • @honeyham6788
    @honeyham6788 8 лет назад +14

    I was wondering if you'd do a video about the potential legal ramifications of someone like the Purple Man existing who can manipulate people so fully, they have no control over their actions. The video could "tie in" to cases involving cult leaders and crimes committed because of blackmail and maybe touch on how in Marvel they deal with cases of Amnesia and Mind Control in a society where mind control and telepathy are so prevalent.

  • @NekoStar
    @NekoStar 8 лет назад +143

    A video about my favorite superhero?! I'm in!

  • @samrider1628
    @samrider1628 8 лет назад +8

    Moon Knight is Marvel's The Question, a street level hero who's criminally underrated and is fascinatingly complex. Would love to see you do an episode on The Question!

  • @BrunoRoig
    @BrunoRoig 8 лет назад +203

    Please give Moon Knight the Netflix treatment.

    • @armsdragon05
      @armsdragon05 8 лет назад +3

      God please make this a thing!

    • @Tay98
      @Tay98 8 лет назад +2

      Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssss

    • @thewildcard9107
      @thewildcard9107 8 лет назад

      i heard that he will get in 2018

    • @rickywilcoxson6933
      @rickywilcoxson6933 7 лет назад

      u should ask Netflix

    • @haroldhernandez1560
      @haroldhernandez1560 6 лет назад +2

      Bruno Roig Torres I'm split on this. On one hand, He has a great story for a show or movie.... On the other hand Netflix tends to drag and dull the source material. They would NEED to put alot of effort.

  • @cooljal2005
    @cooljal2005 8 лет назад +13

    I've been following your videos since the lantern oaths. You're literally the best out there in regards to comics. keep it coming!

  • @selfdestruct9178
    @selfdestruct9178 8 лет назад +10

    I've been reading through my old Moon Knight comics and I think I might have found the reason why Netflix hasn't given MK the MCU treatment. This is just a theory, but to me, Marc always came of as suicidal when he was fighting crime. He prefers to take damage rather than dish it out, he dresses in white as if he wants to be shot, and with his declining mental state, I could see why. The average Netflix user could be easily put off by this, so Marvel doesn't want to risk it. Just a theory

  • @samuelshaw7730
    @samuelshaw7730 8 лет назад +31

    Damn, Scott. I think that's 5 weeks in a row with Hamilton references? You're on a roll

  • @polteageistt3952
    @polteageistt3952 8 лет назад

    This video brought up some mind blowing points!
    I work as a forensic toxicologist in a medical examiners office, so I mainly work with criminals who are on drugs. I see crazy situations all the time and it is interesting to hear how different judges respond to different cases.
    Some judges interpret any drug, from antidepressants to heroin, that the defendant is on as a way to "label" them as somewhat "mentally ill." They seem to be using the train of thought that if the person is on drugs, they shouldn't be blamed for the crime since it was the drugs "fault" and the person is not really responsible for their actions.
    Other judges however, interpret a crime as being much worse if the defendant was on drugs. Especially, obviously, if it is a drug that is illegal or is known to cause behavioral issues. To relate it back to the video, the "blame" is not specific since the defendant made the decision to take the drug(s) and then carried out the crime.
    Again, amazing video!

  • @GCGeekArmy
    @GCGeekArmy 8 лет назад +17

    the more abnormalities you find, the more normal abnormalities become.

  • @alexmelillo1247
    @alexmelillo1247 8 лет назад

    This channel is by far the most distinct comic book channel in youtube. You guys do an awesome job here. Really, keep up the great work.

  • @AspelShuyin
    @AspelShuyin 8 лет назад +48

    Mentally healthy people don't commit crimes. It serves to reason that every criminal is mentally unhealthy, then.
    So why do we prefer punishment over rehabilitation?
    It's even shown that rehabilitation *does* more. For all the talk of how light they are on crime, and how the prisons are like resorts, Norway has a much lower recidivism rate than the US, which has a revolving door for-profit prison system.
    The best way to cut down on future recidivism is by providing treatment for the mental illnesses that cause crime in the first place.

    • @skiddy529
      @skiddy529 8 лет назад +2

      +Rory Walker Explanation 10/10

    • @AspelShuyin
      @AspelShuyin 8 лет назад

      The mental health/criminal justice system in this country is one of those hotbutton issues for me. The ones where you do some shitty high school paper and what you research infuriates you so much that you start hate binging knowledge.

    • @FearDeFreak
      @FearDeFreak 8 лет назад

      +Rory Walker
      A fan of InCase it seems ;)

    • @AspelShuyin
      @AspelShuyin 8 лет назад

      :V
      A fan of Shadman I see.

    • @Akalistos
      @Akalistos 8 лет назад +4

      +Rory Walker
      And you flat out compare Norway to the United State without even considering how different both country are. Let me guess, you are a 20-something University Student in "social study" course, right? That or an overzealous The Guardian reader. Seriously, if something sound too good to be true, it's usually are.
      Let me put that in perspective to you for a second. If you check the percentage of people in prison per Inhabitant (and I'm talking the whole country), it's practically the same (approximately 7.5%). So how good is their system if they rehabilitate more people but their incarcerated per inhabitant is the same that is is in the US? What's funny is that, that would mean their society create more criminal and as fast as they cure them (Well, that is if we considered the US a crime infested place cause I doubt you are willing to say that they might be as good as Norway). So, US penal law isn't all that bad.

  • @brianrebmann676
    @brianrebmann676 8 лет назад +4

    truly interesting and fascinating video. This is one why of the reasons why I love your videos. You use comic books as a framing device to talk about really intellectually stimulating subjects. And, as far as all superheros being a little crazy I would have to agree with that. I mean think about Bruce Wayne for instance. He has money, influence and access to a massive infrastructure whereby he could help countless people. However, if the truth were ever found out he'd loose everything and have to go on the run.

  • @Merrsharr
    @Merrsharr 8 лет назад +4

    Maybe we should focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment.
    Of course, at our current state of research we cannot do this, since our methods of rehabilitation do not work sufficiently well. But at the point when we can diagnose the cause of criminal (rather than abnormal, please) behaviour, maybe we can find ways to treat them.

    • @eden8431
      @eden8431 8 лет назад +1

      I agree, we are aong way off from doing that but hopefully one day we will find a way to change the way we deal with criminals because changing a criminal is much better than punishing them

  • @calebpeiffer2434
    @calebpeiffer2434 2 года назад +2

    Who else is watching this again post Moon Knight on Disney+ in 2022? Did Marvel watch this video and go, “Okay, here’s the central theme of our Moon Knight show.”

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard 4 года назад +3

    Moon Knight is one of my most favorite heroes in Marvel and I'm hyped for the Disney+ series starring Oscar Isaac in the lead roles aka Marc and his various personalities coming out later this year or next year. And if anyone asks yes it's confirmed the show will be in the borderline R rating to most R rating due to Disney announcing that they are going to make a R-Rated section for Disney+.

    • @alejandrogonzalez00
      @alejandrogonzalez00 3 года назад +1

      Really they confirmed that? That’s awesome

    • @derrickhaggard
      @derrickhaggard 3 года назад

      @@alejandrogonzalez00 Yes they did as they confirmed not only the creation of a R-rated section of Disney+ but Deadpool 3 will be in the MCU and have a R-rating.

    • @alejandrogonzalez00
      @alejandrogonzalez00 3 года назад +1

      @@derrickhaggard now that part I did hear about, that Deadpool 3 is gonna rated R which I thought was great news there Feige himself is the one that confirmed it which is freakin great

  • @culturehub2628
    @culturehub2628 8 лет назад +2

    The fact any criminal could bring the 'oh I suffer a severe case of a mental illness' as technology advances is a very scary thought.

  • @LtDragonfruit
    @LtDragonfruit 8 лет назад +32

    "I thought the punishment was supposed to come after the crime"

    • @TheVanOvanShow
      @TheVanOvanShow 8 лет назад

      ^

    • @s1ns0mbr43
      @s1ns0mbr43 8 лет назад +1

      +TheVanOvanShow and the punisher comes after the criminals ;).

    • @minnion2871
      @minnion2871 8 лет назад +2

      Well if we get the ability to scan peoples brains for "defects" that could cause criminal behavior then we should ask these two questions:
      What should we define as criminal behavior?(Personally anything to do with intellectual property should be exempt from the list of "Predictable future criminal activity" since IP and copyright law is a horrible mess that's far too prone to abuse by major corporations, and copyright/patent trolls who end up sitting on stuff to keep their competition from making money off of it even though they aren't using it...)
      How far should we go to prevent crimes that "could" result from a detected defect?(Should medication and strictly regulated diets be a thing? Could the Judge require you undergo brain surgery to "Fix" the defect before it causes you to go on a murder spree? Or would such measures be voluntary and those who elect not to take them be held accountable for not getting their brain fixed provided that their decision to decline said repairs wasn't the result of a known brain defect?)

    • @redxsage
      @redxsage 8 лет назад +4

      Minnion -- The first question to be asked and answered should be: HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT CONSTITUTES A 'NORMAL' BRAIN WITHOUT DEFECT?

    • @bookwermofthefandoms
      @bookwermofthefandoms 6 лет назад

      Daniel Pettit Civil War II, anyone?

  • @jameszetterman4487
    @jameszetterman4487 8 лет назад +1

    For what it's worth, the psychology class I'm taking right now teaches that most dissociative identity disorder diagnoses (particularly those that serve as legal defense) unconsciously suggested by the therapist via leading questions and so on.

  • @skylararruda5727
    @skylararruda5727 8 лет назад +11

    Fuck yeah! Moon Knight is the best!

  • @SamLyn
    @SamLyn 6 лет назад +1

    If he had DID he would 1. Have no control over the switches and 2. The switches aren’t dramatically different personalities, it basically just means he’d black out periodically. The new explanation makes way more sense (in the comic universe, at least). DID is never portrayed properly in media. I had a friend with DID and people with DID don’t have “multiple personalities” they just have holes in their memory during times when they were awake, walking and talking to people and, maybe, acting out with fewer inhibitions

  • @mraltoid19
    @mraltoid19 8 лет назад +5

    10:17 made this video go from a solid 8/10 to a 10/10....Freaking hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @letro73
    @letro73 8 лет назад +2

    This episode gets a well deserved thumbs up.
    Awesome content, production and everything.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @Bgins19
    @Bgins19 8 лет назад +3

    love your Hamilton reference at the beginning of the video

  • @ThatOneGuy7550
    @ThatOneGuy7550 8 лет назад

    This video's topic reminds me of the plot for an anime called Pyscho Pass-- They use some sort of crime predicting algorithm linked to common brain patterns and behaviours and deliver punishment/non-lethal stuns depending on the severity of the mental state. They aptly call it, The Sibyl System. So yeah, good on ya, NerdSync! Also - the future recidivism is similarly portrayed in the film, Minority Report - Which served as inspiration for Pyscho Pass... So yeah. Future power!

  • @MineKynoMine
    @MineKynoMine 8 лет назад +6

    The probability imprisonment sounds just like Psycho Pass

  • @andymac4883
    @andymac4883 8 лет назад +1

    This all makes me think about Winter Soldier, how both SHIELD and Hydra were willing to judge and neutralise 'potential threats', by looking at all of your gathered personal data and figuring out if you were likely to be a troublemaker or not.

  • @Blakobness
    @Blakobness 8 лет назад +6

    I find it insane that people would find it a good idea to let an algorithm decide how likely you are to commit a crime. There's an insurmountable number of variables that could lead to someone committing a crime, mental health even set aside.
    I don't think a suspect's mental state should be taken into consideration at all when passing all but the most extreme sentences. You should be detained and arrested without exception, and if mental illness is part of your plea, then workable treatments should be made available to you during your sentence. Your active behavior during your sentence should decide how soon you should be released back into the public or how much of a danger you are. It shouldn't be based on a guess, even a mathematically calculated guess, though even now the reliability and feasibility of that is extremely suspect to me.

    • @70astralaxe
      @70astralaxe 8 лет назад +1

      Agreed. There are many, many factors at play. Perhaps the algorithm can tell that "well, this guy isn't really stable, even if he acts so" but there will always be cases where this wouldn't matter. People can rehabilitate. Even without help, I think there can always be people who can bring about a change in them, directly or indirectly.
      Sorry, I just woke up, so whatever I'm saying probably isn't making sense or probably isn't too clear. But I agree with what you said.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 6 лет назад

      Blakobness Hello precrime.

  • @AvianSavara
    @AvianSavara 8 лет назад +1

    I'm a huge lefty on a variety of issues, but to me, the existence of a mental condition should not be an exonerating factor in a court of law. This is not about assigning blame but rather about preventing further harm.
    The idea that someone is not responsible for their actions because of their state of mind or their "abnormal" mental health seems preposterous to me, especially since evidence seems to credibly point out that the mind and the body are one and the same. Since those two aspects of the self are inherently connected, a case can not be made that shifts responsability outside of the self.
    Punishing someone for a crime they have yet to commit is probably the best way to incentivize commiting that crime somewhere down the line, or enacting something worse... kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. After all, we tend to act as the kind of person we are treated as.
    However, despite everything I just stated, I still think we should still continue to study the mind actively, in order to foster the kind of environment that prevents a greater deal of harm while still allowing free will and free expression on the part of the individual. This is, of course, a rather lofty goal, and we will never quite completely attain, but it is still worth pursuing.
    These are amazing questions, though. How a justice system matches up to the existing body of science is, of course, another issue entirely.

  • @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
    @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 8 лет назад +11

    The solution is simple, build a wall around all courts and make the lawyers pay for it

  • @Wingtrl
    @Wingtrl 8 лет назад +1

    "dying is easy young man, living is harder" nicely done

  • @StevetheWizard2591
    @StevetheWizard2591 8 лет назад +5

    ... I keep having to remember that there are people in the Marvel universe that don't believe in magic, despite the existence of Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom, both of whom could testify in court and prove beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of magic.

    • @alsodanleyness
      @alsodanleyness 6 лет назад

      Sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science.

  • @XoraRedVolt
    @XoraRedVolt 7 лет назад

    "Gorge Washington!" - We are out gunned!, Out manned!, Out numbered out planned, nice quote, i dont know if its from hamilton but thats a hell of a quote.

  • @SteelandSouls
    @SteelandSouls 8 лет назад +3

    "Dying is easy, young man. Living is harder."
    The more I try and get away from Hamilton, the more it follows me.

  • @bjmccann1
    @bjmccann1 8 лет назад +1

    Hamilton Quote -- "Dying is easy, young man, living is hard." Oh, Scott, you have hidden depths!

  • @iscesp04
    @iscesp04 8 лет назад +5

    your videos are so fucking good i think im going insane

  • @Sean-ni4qy
    @Sean-ni4qy 8 лет назад

    Great video as always. I think that as long as the primary focus of a criminal justice system is punishment over rehabilitation that you will find no decent solution to these kind of moral quandaries. Take Moon Night as an example (leaving the supernatural out and going with DID) , assuming he was convicted of his crimes and sentenced to prison, a huge part of the length of hours prison tenure should be his ability to be retrained and reenter society. I'm not advocating no punishment, but society as a whole loses out of all we do with criminals is lock them in cages and expect them to be functional when they finally get out. Lots to think about with this video.

  • @akymsims
    @akymsims 8 лет назад +4

    "....huh...'' lol

  • @sionalarsen
    @sionalarsen 8 лет назад +1

    I had a friend say something once that really stuck with me and made me feel more confident after leaving my husband with PTSD. I'm not going to be able to remotely say it right but I believe it was something along the lines of a brain injury/defect means there will be things you aren't in control of, but it is still something you have to own. Punching a wall because of 'grr rage and brain injury makes it worse' and then laughing it off with 'lol, PTSD tho' is not owning it. Even if you don't remember the action, accepting the fact that you are the type of person that blacks out and punches a wall is important. Because it means you can get help and not blame the people around you for making you so mad you punched a wall.

  • @oldchannel5505
    @oldchannel5505 8 лет назад +9

    No one mentioning the Hamilton reference?

  • @kewlcats5
    @kewlcats5 8 лет назад +1

    The concept that every superhero is psychologically damaged is a point that is touched upon in the "Watchmen" graphic novel (Which you should definitely do a video on).

  • @richarduberton4489
    @richarduberton4489 8 лет назад +4

    I don't care if he is responsible for his actions, I just hope he makes it into the MCU

  • @azraelsdemon
    @azraelsdemon 8 лет назад +2

    Sound a little like moon knight's got some HP Lovecraft inspiration, very cool I never knew much about him

  • @comd.shepard
    @comd.shepard 8 лет назад +31

    Civil War II😂😂😂

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  8 лет назад +3

      Yep.

    • @TintelFruit
      @TintelFruit 8 лет назад

      +NerdSync Thats what I was thinking to...

    • @garnsey39
      @garnsey39 8 лет назад +1

      +NerdSync wow moon knight was made for your channel :)

    • @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
      @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix 8 лет назад

      +Arkit Singh I thought I knew which side I was on. I'm not sure anymore.

    • @mathiaslarroca377
      @mathiaslarroca377 8 лет назад

      The thing is that in civil war 2 they use superpowers to know what criminals will do, it's not an algorithm, they can just see a possible future but are able to stop it

  • @joeworpole2295
    @joeworpole2295 8 лет назад

    You are by far the best comic book channel as you have a great personality and interesting questions and videos! :)

  • @AcrimoniousMirth
    @AcrimoniousMirth 8 лет назад +14

    Your ending idea seems rather Minority Report, or even Psycho-Pass.

    • @AcrimoniousMirth
      @AcrimoniousMirth 8 лет назад

      Dangerous grounds.

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 8 лет назад

      +Acrimonious Mirth Especially if you just doing it to punish people for crime they could potentially commit. That the wrong way of going about it.
      If you are however diagnosed with the chance of committing crime then if one put in place preventative measures to steer you in the right cause, then I do not think it is wrong. But that is what we do today to some degree. Ideally when we find a person with violent tendencies and mental illness we try to help them with things like therapy. Just we use the judgement of experts today to do it over other analytic tools.

    • @AcrimoniousMirth
      @AcrimoniousMirth 8 лет назад

      Hmmm, yes. Unlike the Pre-crime systems that would take at least 1 crime to diagnose. Indeed, a more just system!

    • @GibbsVideography
      @GibbsVideography 8 лет назад

      +Acrimonious Mirth ha came down here to say the same thing

    • @AcrimoniousMirth
      @AcrimoniousMirth 8 лет назад

      Christopher Gibbs The Minority Report or Psycho-Pass? :P

  • @ZeSheshamHahu
    @ZeSheshamHahu 5 лет назад +1

    The part where Moon Knight says that all costumes are insane I immediately thought of The Boys and all the completely bonkers and amoral capes.

  • @CelticRider84
    @CelticRider84 8 лет назад +6

    That being said; which one's crazier.. Moon Knight, or Deadpool?

    • @ashamedrepublican1224
      @ashamedrepublican1224 8 лет назад +4

      It's like deadpool at least knows he's Crazy, but Marc Spector doesn't realize.... As much... Maybe

    • @LivingHe11
      @LivingHe11 6 лет назад

      Moon Knight by far

    • @ohlookmarki
      @ohlookmarki 5 лет назад

      Moon Knight is miiiiles crazier than Deadpool

    • @Thestockxj96
      @Thestockxj96 4 года назад

      How does he compare to the punisher?

  • @JamesDarkos
    @JamesDarkos 8 лет назад

    dude great lighting on the exegetical crisis shot it got eerie for that split second that it lingered.

  • @moeniang5701
    @moeniang5701 8 лет назад +16

    Then ending describes an anime called psychopass

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  8 лет назад +7

      Yep.

    • @SuperViniciusj
      @SuperViniciusj 8 лет назад

      +NerdSync I just got into comics last year Ive read plenty of DC but I needed help getting into marvel comics any recommendations ?

    • @joeworpole2295
      @joeworpole2295 8 лет назад

      +Viniciusj~.~ i recommend power man and iron fist and hawk eye vol 1 (not the new new one). These are some of the only Marvel comics i have liked.

    • @Arcticfox030
      @Arcticfox030 8 лет назад

      lol least it wasnt just me who noticed XD

    • @damnrapunzel8130
      @damnrapunzel8130 8 лет назад

      +Moe Niang damn, you beat me to it.

  • @thereallowtiergod4267
    @thereallowtiergod4267 6 лет назад

    Excellent topic, research, presentation and theory. Top quality content, Nerdsync!

  • @jordas
    @jordas 8 лет назад +3

    hey scott!
    can you please tell me when was it he fought in his underwear and point me onto other great moon Knight comics?

  • @jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545
    @jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545 3 года назад

    It's an interesting point you bring up in this video. I think that it can be said that most of those not necessarily born with their powers and abilities are traumatized by an inciting incident in their past that drove them to become hero (and in some cases villain). But I do say that even heroes should be held to the same standards as everyone else. Mitigations can be taken into account for any good they've done in their lives. But if an innocent person dies because of the direct actions of a person, hero or otherwise, they should have to pay some price.

  • @BBQ_Ch1cken
    @BBQ_Ch1cken 8 лет назад +3

    Hamilton reference?

  • @theaidadmin
    @theaidadmin 6 лет назад

    This is my favorite video that you have ever made. Love it!

  • @Flippy201951
    @Flippy201951 8 лет назад +4

    what's is this, the start of psycho pass?

  • @BrotherhoodOfHeroes
    @BrotherhoodOfHeroes 8 лет назад

    my goodness, I really love this channel. Great content, can't wait until this channel becomes HUGE, I know it'll get there.

  • @sionjames3830
    @sionjames3830 8 лет назад +52

    I think Moon Knight is better than Batman

    • @darrellb9665
      @darrellb9665 8 лет назад +4

      why instantly compare him to Batman?

    • @nightmarston2156
      @nightmarston2156 8 лет назад +3

      +Darrellscott Bell because in the vid it said that moon knight is a more gruesome batman

    • @noirerequiemii101
      @noirerequiemii101 8 лет назад +1

      +Sion James both are cool too man, not only about whom you prefer XD

    • @zegsi364
      @zegsi364 8 лет назад +1

      +Sion James Well... I agree that Moon Knight has a better design, better methodology... But I would change his origin... Who the fuck is Khon shu? How does that make sense?

    • @noirerequiemii101
      @noirerequiemii101 8 лет назад

      ZEGS i they must have been... high ;)

  • @nintendo743
    @nintendo743 8 лет назад +17

    *coff* *coff* Psycho-Pass *coff**coff*

    • @Magmafrost13
      @Magmafrost13 8 лет назад +1

      *coff coff* The Minority Report did it 56 years earlier *coff coff*
      Also that's not the correct spelling of cough, but whatever. The english language is stupid

    • @rumbledowndesigns
      @rumbledowndesigns 8 лет назад +1

      +Magmafrost13 Psycho pass did it better though

    • @Blackblax
      @Blackblax 8 лет назад +2

      +Rumble down I mean wasn't it suppose to, since it had 56 yrs to make improvements upon a previous concept?

    • @nintendo743
      @nintendo743 8 лет назад

      Magmafrost13 Should i watch the Minority Report?

    • @Fouxjin
      @Fouxjin 8 лет назад

      Read it

  • @jamesscimeca
    @jamesscimeca 8 лет назад

    Fantastic video, Scott. The whole punishment based on what could happen reminds me of the dueling philosophies that we will see in Civil War II.

  • @kingdavid7516
    @kingdavid7516 8 лет назад +4

    Any Asian girls here? I need a Minority Report.

  • @504344
    @504344 8 лет назад

    I really like how they put it in starship troopers (book not movie). If you commit a heinous crime while insane, either you can not be made well, in which case putting you out of your misery is a mercy, or you can be made well at which point any human worth redeeming would have to end their own life upon finding out what they had done. The quote is in regards to a murder. Heinlein had some interesting ideas on moral philosophy.

  • @AVERYochang
    @AVERYochang 8 лет назад +5

    SPOILERS FOR DAREDEVIL SEASON 2, BEWARE.

    • @crye1127
      @crye1127 8 лет назад

      +Obeng Chang
      Moon Knight Might get his own show

  • @GoeTeeks
    @GoeTeeks 6 лет назад

    Well, there are a few points worth discussing about this.
    1) If there IS some physical cause, a person would have to undergo surgery to have the cause repaired, and if that's not possible, and the person is proven to be a danger to themselves/others, they would be placed in a mental ward. Probably for life.
    2) If the problem has more to do with background, a traumatic past, or something more psychological that requires therapy, they would, again, need to seek treatment (again, in a mental ward), until they have been rehabilitated (or for life, if rehabilitation fails).
    3) A bigger reason for assigning certain sentences to people, even if they have valid excuses/reasons for committing their crimes, is deterrence. When other people see a criminal get caught and punished, they're more likely to think of the consequences of their actions before carrying them out. On the other hand, if the crime for murder was more likely to be: undergo some surgical operation and you're released in a matter of days/months, people might be less concerned with the consequences of their actions. Indeed people tend to try to claim insanity all the time thinking it gets them off scot-free, which generally isn't the case.

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions 8 лет назад +6

    I thought that was the KKK...

  • @ypsiminers
    @ypsiminers 8 лет назад +2

    The pun about "luna-tics" is actually pretty bad in that the term "lunatic" comes from the idea that walking around in the moonlight drives you insane.

  • @travellingspud7972
    @travellingspud7972 8 лет назад +3

    Hell yeah! Batshit crazy lunatic possessed by time-space aliens that kicks people until they puke. My kind of shit. Now lets make this 'hero' really miserable. Muahahahaha! >XD
    If only it turns out he was killing the innocent, intentionally o_O

  • @tedwisetube
    @tedwisetube 8 лет назад

    Very well researched, and definitely one of your better videos. Good job Nerdsync.

  • @JimmyGoodYT
    @JimmyGoodYT 8 лет назад

    Hey Scott! What a fascinating video. It does really bring into question a lot about the justice system here in the U.S. Your point at the end about harsher sentencing for future crimes made me think a little bit about Minority Report. Obviously, it isn't the same, but the concept of punishing future crimes is a nice bridge. Either way, keep it up! Great stuff.

  • @yohsephcassidy7324
    @yohsephcassidy7324 8 лет назад

    omg some one get the "real" scott a window and sum hugs. that shot after the figment of your imagination line was eerie, good lighting job. never knew you were soo good at lighting, wut a contrasting shot. favourite part of the video. loved this video by the way, lots of kool thoughts there! thxz again scott! moon knight you so crazy

  • @idbuddy2184
    @idbuddy2184 8 лет назад

    yo awesome ep. i know you got the next vid already planned, and i know this deals with comics but something you might want to look into is an anime series called psycho pass. it deals with exactly what you mentioned with brain scanning by giving a number evaluation to a persons mental health and setting up an incarceration system based on that value as it means "they are likely to commit a crime"

  • @lukaea
    @lukaea 8 лет назад

    That Civil War 2 tie-in. Very smooth, Scott.

  • @JohanWinqvistTesseract
    @JohanWinqvistTesseract 8 лет назад

    Here's an idea: crime, or at least violent crime, is always a symptom of mental issues. It might be a small issue or a very focused one, but it's still not mentally healthy. Therefore the punishment should always be treatment with a chance for release when a panel of doctors agree that the patient is well enough to handle life in a way that doesn't threaten themselves or others.

  • @EnigmaSixx
    @EnigmaSixx 6 лет назад

    The figment of my imagination bit made me laugh so hard. I wasn't expecting that scene of you sitting in the corner.

  • @tessewact
    @tessewact 8 лет назад

    This video is immazing as always, Scott!
    References are fun.

  • @cobaltrome
    @cobaltrome 8 лет назад

    this was a beautiful look at the justice system in regards to mental health. great job seriously, i really enjoyed this one.

  • @Gobbostopper
    @Gobbostopper 4 года назад +1

    I'd be interested in a Joker/Legion style show regarding this - ambiguity, trippy imagery.

  • @hillelfinder428
    @hillelfinder428 8 лет назад

    1:21 Hamilton again?! Wow Scot. I'm impressed that you managed to sneak that in there.

  • @desmondthomas1898
    @desmondthomas1898 8 лет назад

    I feel like the perfect criminal justice system would take both of these factors into account. For instance, if we had the means to determine that someone was likely to commit a future crime, an immediate punishment would not be just because there is always the chance that they will not commit another crime. However, to monitor the behavior of someone who is likely to commit a crime would be a much better solution (albeit it would take resources that most governments would not be excited to spare) because it holds off punishment until the instant before the crime is committed.

  • @TheRAZORVIDS
    @TheRAZORVIDS 8 лет назад

    Great video! nerdsync is the best comic channel on youtube!

  • @silverfoot6079
    @silverfoot6079 7 лет назад

    Moon Knight is by far my most favorite hero. If they ever make a series or movie, they better make it as accurate as possible. I get introducing people to a minor character is important, but if you don't make it accurate, they don't trully know the character.

  • @MatthewDakoutros
    @MatthewDakoutros 5 лет назад

    I unironically love how this video is more about psychology than Moon Knight

  • @chezwizard
    @chezwizard 8 лет назад

    One could argue that the question of "how to punish" a particular crime might be the wrong question -- especially if we are trying to prevent future crime based on algorithmic extrapolation.
    A better way might be "how do we help this person become less likely to commit crime", and whether prison is the best place to do so. There might be situations where it is, but a great many people would likely be more harmed than helped by over-focusing on "punishment" for all crimes. (and I don't just mean the perpetrators)

  • @jamesclark6864
    @jamesclark6864 5 лет назад

    I like to think that it’s not necessarily a matter of whether the brain or the person is responsible, so much as what do we do to prevent future crimes? When brain care is the best approach, then do that.

  • @joshburns969
    @joshburns969 6 лет назад

    Old video I know but there is an anime that covers the whole probability to commit crimes thing. Its called Psycho Pass and police in the series are able to assign scores to people and deem them latent criminals and jail them simply for that. Its pretty good and touches on some of what you said.

  • @endreselvik27
    @endreselvik27 8 лет назад

    Man, I love all of those Hamilton references. Keep it coming :)

  • @EveryDayALittleDeath
    @EveryDayALittleDeath 8 лет назад

    "dying is easy, young man, living is harder" Someone's a Hamilton fan.
    Also, I really, really need to check out Moon Night. as someone with mental illness I always like stuff that portrays us crazy folk as capable of awesome things, while still addressing the drawbacks of and ways we must cope with our craziness. It also sounds badass and hilarious. As for the legal stuff, I think there are three important questions to keep in mind firstly: were they fully in control of their actions at the time? If yes, were they and are they capable of telling right from wrong. If no to either question, does this appear to be an isolate d incident. If the answer to that is no, then there are a lot more questions you need to ask, and it gets a bit more complicated, but those are the three you need to start with