Hi Thomas happy see you smile and real true happiness see when you laugh so the real change a lot now I love more formentor vz I 2.0 vz and plug hybrid vz top but petrol is my favorite AWD king and now with torque splinter is more good old works well thank to haldex gen but now looks no spin wheel I love cupra formentor vz if have choice with one Audi or cupra I a take cupra formentor vz 2.0 real good sound now no fake and akra exhaust no words more strong beast now
Very good and thorough presentation as usual. Compared to my 1st gen VZ: pros: -more engine power (23 hp) and torque (20 nm) -bigger infotainment screen and new sound system (hopefully better than the Beats in mine) -padded center console and copper details around the shifter -back light bar with the Cupra logo - torque vectoring (although not sure how this benefits the dynamics other than for drifting) cons: - front mask/grille , not as aggressive, seems to belong to suit better an electric version/Born - front lights more mainstream - lighted touch sliders for volume and aircon (I love the all blacked out sliders on mine, too much lighting is annoying to the eye, although many criticized them and evidently Cupra/VAG have listened) Still a great car after 2 years and more than 50k km, without a single issue, except of course of the common periodically infotainment/security system glitches that are so far quickly self sorted out.
Just bought my first car (Seat Ibiza 6F) and always loved Cupra and already know which my new will be if i may be lucky enough to be able to afford one. The Formentor is such a beast. Elegance, sportyness... what a car! I love it. Also, what a presentation. Explained it soo well
stage 1 engine/gear (software only, no downpipe, no any hardware change) brings you to 450hp (380whp). i made it when car was 8 month old and now its 3.5 years - perfect deal
@@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vz it indeed is a predictable comment but it’s just an opinion after all man. Some designs can grow on people in time but it’s simply a fact that the predecessor had a more aggresive face hence why i think it had a better design
As the owner of 23' model, my opinion is that they should take a look of that model and just modernize it.Think this car lost its sharpness in the front and looks blended like any other suv on the road.
Great review, thanks! I will keep saying that you have the most eye for the details. I could almost feel you touching the paint and the inside trim :-)
I would say 11 speakers and a subwoofer, in home cinema these are separated, for example you have configurations like 5.1 where 5 is the number of speakers and 1 is the number of subwoofers. I'm actually really curious about this Sennheiser system, most of these branded speakers are junk from my experience but this one could be decent...
Awesome thanks both , I think it looks fabulous in that colour , we have the 310 and would be tempted for the vz 333 , I actually prefer the front on the new one 👍🏻👍🏻
10:57. Measuring the full length of trunk with folded rear seats should be standard for your review. Just one thing missing when you are reviewing family cars! Very happy to see it in this video. Waiting for Leon review (sportstourer with measured full length trunk space with folded seats. We know leon has the smallest and shortest trunk from all other models from this platform. Measuring full trunk length could be tricky as front seats can be in "far or near" position looking by the max length from trunk.
I used to do that every time but I saw watch time decreasing in too long trunk parts so I often skip it now. Seems that not everyone is intested in this
There is gonna be VZ5 version also. There are videos of 5 cyl facelift testing on the Nürburgring. You can distinctly hear 5 cylinder when it accerelates and has Lexus ISF-esque looking exhaust like on the pre-facelift VZ5
I also think there is a 2.0 tsi with 209hp engine. For all of the people complaining and hating, there is NO car on the market that looks this good for the price, if you are going for the looks. Comparing to audi, you get this agressive looks only in RS versions. People will turn heads for your 1.5 car. If you can get this when it's discounted a bit with maybe solid leasing offer, it's a great deal. If the money is stretched I would go for Skoda Kamiq Monte Carlo which was ~10k cheaper in my country for some time. That truly is a no brainer for a new, all-around car.
I own the previous gen Formentor as a company car. Yes, it’s not an Audi, but a great value for money. I absolutely dislike those front cupholders, they are ergonomically misplaced . Plastics are cheap, but who cares! The ride quality is great, especially when you want to drive a little bit more sporty. Overall a good car and a menacing front. The new model looks fresh, but not mean anymore…
My Leon ST 2022 har been total problem-free, just ordered one of these as replacement with the small 1.5 eTSI as we have no Autobahn here .... btw I like the new front!
Regarding sound, a subwoofer or a tweeter have the same basic function: to reproduce sound, regardless of the range of frequencies they handle, therefore, they are speakers. The audible range for humans encompasses up to approximately 20,000 Hz, and a single speaker has a lot of difficulty reproducing all these frequencies accurately. This is why the audio industry has developed the practice of separating frequencies into several bands and sending each group to a specific type of speaker: tweeter for high frequencies, midrange for mid frequencies, and woofer for low frequencies. Low frequencies are sometimes further divided into mid-bass and sub-bass, with the latter handled by the subwoofer. In summary, regardless of the name, if it reproduces sound through a vibrating membrane, it is a speaker. However, it is also true that there are speakers that reproduce sound without a vibrating membrane, such as the Ribbon Technology tweeters used by the manufacturer Adam Audio.
@@autogefuehl yes, great video. I have already watched it probably more than 3-4 times 😁Looking into ordering an S3 sedan so I was curious how does the feeling of both cars compare from someone who has had the pleasure to experience both first hand 😊
Hehe awesome! Honestly i felt that this one here somehow had more juice / handled better. Could be subjective though. They re technologically identical
@@almac9203 not at all full price, ill drive mine until the warranty is going out at least, so 2027. Cupras are great but the software is atrocious and buggy. Ill let the new model mature.
@@HawxX1 its under warranty so the normal oil change and inspection. They tend to be decoupled so you may have a different schedule for each. Reasonable prices imo.
Driving the previous generation more than a year with around 30000 Km mileage, love it. It is truely a driver's car, very nimble and responsive, extremely stable in high speed (self experience in German Autobahn with 225 km/hr, very comfy). But, I do NOT like overal look of the facelift AT All. The front look/grill to me is not as aggressive as it used to be, new headlight is generic as well (mine is very distinctive). Illuminated back logo is gimmicky (we cannot do anything about it since it become a new trend in VW group now a days, even for front logo as well). The only welcoming upgrade to me os better infotainment (with those illuminated temp. controll) and and the addition of the 48V battery in 1st tier engine.
They really do. I've always been faithful to Japanese cars but these new Cupras are very tempting... On the other hand, it's a VAG group product and few of my friends had some bad experience with reliability of their cars. Anyway, the facelifted Formentor - very wow.
I bought the Formentor vzx last yeat, the car is really good. It is better than old golf R7.5 regarding the NVH and refinement. The only gripe is the too much things were moved to the touch screen. The touchscreen is way larger than vw golf mk8 though.
Data & facts: Cupra Formentor facelift Cupra launching on US market probably with an electric successor of this one and later with a larger EV SUV 120.000 Formentor sales in 2023 (230.000 overall Cupra sales) Germany strongest Formentor market Sharknose front Matrix LED 4,45 m 175“ 18-19“ wheels (19” standard VZ) Illuminated logo rear New Century Bronze Matt and Enceladus Grey Matt colors Opt. DCC 1300 Euro, (standard for VZ) 1.5 TSI 150 hp 6-manual or DSG MHEV 9s 1.5 TSI PHEV FWD 204 hp or VZ 272 hp (7,2 s) 80 km / 50 miles realistic range 11 kW AC / 50 kW DC 20 kWh net 2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD DSG VZ: 2.0 TSI 265 hp FWD DSG or 333 hp AWD DSG 4,8 s with torque splitter and optional performance brakes, drift mode 2.0 TDI 150 hp DSG VZ models with sound actuator PHEV +260 kg Base seats in textile or sport seats with integrated head restraints in microfibre (standard VZ) or animal skin or lower Cup Bucket seats for the VZ in fabric/microfibre 13“ infotainment standard Illuminated temperature slider Sennheiser 12 speaker system optional Trunk / boot 450 l (420 l with intelligent drive), 345 l PHEV Price 39.500 Euro / 35.500 pounds entry (manual) High trim 55.000 Euro Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
Subwoofer is counted separately. I have a Dolby Atmos 9.2.2 That's 9 speakers 2 down-firing Atmos side speakers and two subwoofers, one placed fore and the other aft. Not 13 speaker units to an audiophile except on the credit spreadsheet. If we counted the speakers we would have to include the tweeters and bass units separately. How does 44 speakers sound? I hope this helps.
For home stereos. You have to make that distinction. But not in cars. No one says 8 speakers plus a subwoofer for a car stereo. They'd just say 9 speakers.
First of all thank you for the very nice review. I do not like the front bumper, grills etc I like the rear lights, the logo, i really love the white gauges and the new 13" navi, and also the 12 speakers instead of the beats audio from the previous versions. If i had a choise, i prefer the old one. honestly. By the way "you should have a different mount for the camera "mounted in sunroof" inside in the car". it is a little "shakely"
Not so many updates from the previous generation, but I like the new design and the infotainment upgrade is nice. Also, it's amazing that the PHEV now has double the battery capacity... kinda jealous ngl 😒 Anyways, I'm still happy with my 2021 model :)
Its like Dolby surround sound, 5.1 = 5 speakers, 1 subwoofer, you can hear a subwoofer, but you can't tell where the sound is coming from, thats why you can put it under the boot, or behind a sofa.
@@krane15 Nope. Only in the US, but then they get it wrong all the time. 4WD used by JLR for all their vehicles and even Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini
They absolutely ruined the front. I dont understand why manufacturers are taking an aggressive looking front and making it look soft/cheap. Same as what BMW has done with their 1 Series
1.5 engine TSI or eTSI? According to the official site of Cupra, the engine is coming with MHEV technology. Also skoda named this technology MHEV and the engines are eTSI. There is a 48V battery in the car (Kodiaq, Superb). Is this car the same as I mentioned?
Hi Thomas, so you have a stiffer mount for the middle camera showing the road? At times it wobbles so much I thought you were driving through cobblestones 😂. Maybe use two cords to secure it more? Dunno.. I liked the video thanks for the nice review
Subwoofer is a speaker but it is designated for low frequency sound. We as a buyer want to know if the car has a dedicated subwoofer or a generic speakers.
Just the list price on paper. Nobody buys it for that price. Just look at mobile de, there are tons of vz5's around 40K eur. The most cheapest performance car with 5 cylinder it is a bargain. This will be the same. List price means nothing...
Cheaper than 60K maybe yes but don't be ridiculous, 35K at this point is a fully specced Fabia, you really think the VZ should be the same price as a Fabia?
Wow awesome car & a great review to go with it but im more interested in the new Cupra Leon 333bhp!!! So hopefully you will be getting that as your next review fine sir!!🤞🏻👌🏻👍🏻😃
Can someone explain me the drift mode please, do it drops 100% back or 50% and just disconnect 50% from front? in other words, does drift mode allows a real rear-wheel drive for full power or max 50%. thanks!
torque vectoring in the rear so you get all power from the rear wheels to one side in the rear. Doesnt mean that there is no power in the front, but its enough to make it spin
Luckily sold the pre face-lift 310 hp version for a half price. Those cars are buggy as hell. Although everything is covered by warranty, after some 5th time it gets annoying. Now enjoying Lexus ES300h and would never switch back to VAG.
@@djchristian82 I got steering wheel, vacuum valve and some more minor stuff replaced. Common issues include Brembo brakes, rear view camera etc. Then few times CEL where the issue was never identified.
I'm not sure about the price tho, Tiguan starts at 35k right, how does this starts at 40k is mind blowing. Biggest issue in pre redesign based on my experience was nvh noise although it was comfy suspension and AC controls with laggy unit. Other than that all was fine.
Everyone compares the fanciest versions - maybe it would be worth testing/comparing the basic version of the Porsche 911 992.2 (C2) with the Mercedes AMG GT 43. Such a comparison of rear-wheel drive sports cars would probably be interesting, at least for me.
I seriously considered the previous vzx but I didn't like the blue leather interior that came in most of them also the size was abit too small,if I wanted a small car id get the GOLF R. I ended up with a TIGUAN R
The previous gen was that much better looking. They ruined one the best looking small suvs. Same thing with the new countryman. And its a shame cause they pretty much improved everything else on an already really good vehicle.
First, the subwoofer is most definitely a speaker. So the only reason someone might say 11 speaker plus subwoofer is the specify that one speaker is dedicated solely to low frequency. In general offering a higher quality sound. Second, I abosolutley hate bucket seats. They're the worst idea in the auto industry next to fake exhaust and piano black. This is an SUV and regardless of its sportiness you still need to get comfortable. They may look cool on your daily commute, but take your car on an all-day cross country, and after 8 hours, you will beg for all the adjustments you can get. Especially the headrest which bucket seat don't offer. Bucket seats are built for the demanding driving position of 2-seater sports cars, not family SUVs. They also make the rear area seem claustrophobic. Especially with those low rear seats. Another short-sighted trend I wish carmakers would stop.
@@autogefuehl could you point exact time code? I rewatched 11:16 and 11:34, there is no video with racelogick and no info about 0-100, am I missing something?
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This is our in-depth review of the 2024 Cupra Formentor facelift as the Cupra Formentor VZ 333 hp AWD. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 Cupra Formentor facelift
01:10 Length, wheels and DCC
01:50 Rear-restyling
02:31 Emotional start-up sound
03:04 Engines
04:30 Interior quality check
06:03 Seats and comfort
06:42 Cockpit updates
08:18 Driver POV
09:26 Rear seats
10:25 Trunk / boot
11:16 Launch Control
11:33 Torque vectoring
13:34 Acceleration and motorway
14:41 DCC and drive modes
16:48 Assistance systems
20:21 Fuel economy
20:44 Price
#Cupra #CupraFormentor
Hi Thomas happy see you smile and real true happiness see when you laugh so the real change a lot now I love more formentor vz I 2.0 vz and plug hybrid vz top but petrol is my favorite AWD king and now with torque splinter is more good old works well thank to haldex gen but now looks no spin wheel I love cupra formentor vz if have choice with one Audi or cupra I a take cupra formentor vz 2.0 real good sound now no fake and akra exhaust no words more strong beast now
Very good and thorough presentation as usual.
Compared to my 1st gen VZ:
pros:
-more engine power (23 hp) and torque (20 nm)
-bigger infotainment screen and new sound system (hopefully better than the Beats in mine)
-padded center console and copper details around the shifter
-back light bar with the Cupra logo
- torque vectoring (although not sure how this benefits the dynamics other than for drifting)
cons:
- front mask/grille , not as aggressive, seems to belong to suit better an electric version/Born
- front lights more mainstream
- lighted touch sliders for volume and aircon (I love the all blacked out sliders on mine, too much lighting is annoying to the eye,
although many criticized them and evidently Cupra/VAG have listened)
Still a great car after 2 years and more than 50k km, without a single issue, except of course of the common periodically
infotainment/security system glitches that are so far quickly self sorted out.
thanks for the extensive feedback!
Just bought my first car (Seat Ibiza 6F) and always loved Cupra and already know which my new will be if i may be lucky enough to be able to afford one. The Formentor is such a beast. Elegance, sportyness... what a car! I love it. Also, what a presentation. Explained it soo well
stage 1 engine/gear (software only, no downpipe, no any hardware change) brings you to 450hp (380whp). i made it when car was 8 month old and now its 3.5 years - perfect deal
@@sten32144 which engine version did you soft?
11.1 sound system 😎
Correct.
Great video! I always took Leah’s filming for granted but the close ups of the small details I have underappreciated, we’ll done Leah also!
Thank you Thomas and you just drove my next car and want the 333Hp version. Hope to find a good leasing deal
The predecessor had a better looking front imo
@@The_Dweazel
And we in Europe feel the same of what you got in the States 😅
@@The_Dweazel i was thinking how you got some car models that we dont get in Europe and second the prices youve got...much lower car prices heh
You’d argue the same if they were released the opposite way around, this comment on every new car launch video is so predictable 😂
@@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vz it indeed is a predictable comment but it’s just an opinion after all man. Some designs can grow on people in time but it’s simply a fact that the predecessor had a more aggresive face hence why i think it had a better design
yes but cars in NA market are up to 40 percent cheaper including European manufacturers@@The_Dweazel
As the owner of 23' model, my opinion is that they should take a look of
that model and just modernize it.Think this car lost its sharpness in the front and looks blended like any other suv on the road.
Rented the 4cly in April on a visit to Brussels. I was impressed. A more interesting VW.
Great review, thanks! I will keep saying that you have the most eye for the details. I could almost feel you touching the paint and the inside trim :-)
I would say 11 speakers and a subwoofer, in home cinema these are separated, for example you have configurations like 5.1 where 5 is the number of speakers and 1 is the number of subwoofers.
I'm actually really curious about this Sennheiser system, most of these branded speakers are junk from my experience but this one could be decent...
im affraid Sennheiser is just brand name they bought licence to use for marketing and still VW speakers inside
When VW used Dynaudio in their lineup the sound was brilliant. The Beats audio is utterly crap although it was available as an option.
In terms of tyre droning noise, did you notice an upgrade at all? Hopefully Cupra applied some insulation to the fl version.
Was trying to learn about the car as it's the first time seeing one, then this pretty lady shows up at 9:06... wow what a smile
I love this new version, so modern and aggressive
Great vídeo and great car! 🇪🇸🇩🇪
Awesome thanks both , I think it looks fabulous in that colour , we have the 310 and would be tempted for the vz 333 , I actually prefer the front on the new one 👍🏻👍🏻
Are you going to test the PHEV of that car soon? It´s high on my list for a new car within a year.
Hi, Thomas I have to admit these people from America did a good job the new Cupra Formentor facelift and 333 hp Formentor VZ!
Does that mean Leon facelift review is near? Cant wait.
They came out together, you can already order both (at least in Europe)
not true. Only 1.5tsi and 2.0tdi can be ordered. 2.0tsi will be available until the end of the year.
Yes!!
10:57. Measuring the full length of trunk with folded rear seats should be standard for your review. Just one thing missing when you are reviewing family cars! Very happy to see it in this video. Waiting for Leon review (sportstourer with measured full length trunk space with folded seats. We know leon has the smallest and shortest trunk from all other models from this platform. Measuring full trunk length could be tricky as front seats can be in "far or near" position looking by the max length from trunk.
I used to do that every time but I saw watch time decreasing in too long trunk parts so I often skip it now. Seems that not everyone is intested in this
Understandable. Thanks. Then I'm the weird one, again xD But for at least the sport tourers this maybe is more "important" than for hothatches.
Totally agree, maybe i can somehow do it quicker
As an audio lover ( Home theatre and 2 channel) it's 11.1 . Love your reviews Thomas..
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There is gonna be VZ5 version also. There are videos of 5 cyl facelift testing on the Nürburgring. You can distinctly hear 5 cylinder when it accerelates and has Lexus ISF-esque looking exhaust like on the pre-facelift VZ5
Then they explicitly lied to me
I also think there is a 2.0 tsi with 209hp engine. For all of the people complaining and hating, there is NO car on the market that looks this good for the price, if you are going for the looks. Comparing to audi, you get this agressive looks only in RS versions. People will turn heads for your 1.5 car. If you can get this when it's discounted a bit with maybe solid leasing offer, it's a great deal. If the money is stretched I would go for Skoda Kamiq Monte Carlo which was ~10k cheaper in my country for some time. That truly is a no brainer for a new, all-around car.
all engine versions in pinned comment / video description as well !
Actually, Lexus might be its biggest rival. It has a far more premium interior though not nearly as sporty.
The subwoofer is a speaker as well. Just not a full range speaker (not playing the full range of frequencies).
Why enceladus grey matt color looks so greenish? But I love it.
I heard that it is not easy to maintain this paint.
I own the previous gen Formentor as a company car. Yes, it’s not an Audi, but a great value for money. I absolutely dislike those front cupholders, they are ergonomically misplaced . Plastics are cheap, but who cares! The ride quality is great, especially when you want to drive a little bit more sporty. Overall a good car and a menacing front. The new model looks fresh, but not mean anymore…
How is the sound isolation
My Leon ST 2022 har been total problem-free, just ordered one of these as replacement with the small 1.5 eTSI as we have no Autobahn here .... btw I like the new front!
Is the Akrapovič exhaust system standard on the VZ 333 model or optional upgrade?
Option and for 333 hp only as far as my information goes
Regarding sound, a subwoofer or a tweeter have the same basic function: to reproduce sound, regardless of the range of frequencies they handle, therefore, they are speakers. The audible range for humans encompasses up to approximately 20,000 Hz, and a single speaker has a lot of difficulty reproducing all these frequencies accurately. This is why the audio industry has developed the practice of separating frequencies into several bands and sending each group to a specific type of speaker: tweeter for high frequencies, midrange for mid frequencies, and woofer for low frequencies. Low frequencies are sometimes further divided into mid-bass and sub-bass, with the latter handled by the subwoofer. In summary, regardless of the name, if it reproduces sound through a vibrating membrane, it is a speaker.
However, it is also true that there are speakers that reproduce sound without a vibrating membrane, such as the Ribbon Technology tweeters used by the manufacturer Adam Audio.
nice explanation thanks! :) 12 speakers it is then
How does it compare to the Audi S3 2024 facelifted 333hp in terms of handling, acceleration, interior quality, etc?
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@@autogefuehl yes, great video. I have already watched it probably more than 3-4 times 😁Looking into ordering an S3 sedan so I was curious how does the feeling of both cars compare from someone who has had the pleasure to experience both first hand 😊
Hehe awesome!
Honestly i felt that this one here somehow had more juice / handled better. Could be subjective though. They re technologically identical
Sunshine and a T-shirt, not in Scotland anymore Thomas ? 😂
What about the noise in the car? On the highway, or in the city? Is it good isolated? Better than the previous one? Thx :)
Having just bought a new old shape Formentor I can say that the road noise is loud. Too loud
Thomas, we haven't seen Shmoozy for a long time? Hope the kitten is doing well.
Amazing, have been waiting for this, i have the 2022 VZ 310hp
Are the changes worth an upgrade?
@@almac9203 not at all full price, ill drive mine until the warranty is going out at least, so 2027. Cupras are great but the software is atrocious and buggy. Ill let the new model mature.
@@Sipu79what about maintenance side ?
@@HawxX1 its under warranty so the normal oil change and inspection. They tend to be decoupled so you may have a different schedule for each. Reasonable prices imo.
@@Sipu79 i mean did you get any issue even if you got a warranty like the gear ect
my VZ3 arrived yesterday, apparantly it's the first in the UK!!
enjoy!
Driving the previous generation more than a year with around 30000 Km mileage, love it. It is truely a driver's car, very nimble and responsive, extremely stable in high speed (self experience in German Autobahn with 225 km/hr, very comfy). But, I do NOT like overal look of the facelift AT All. The front look/grill to me is not as aggressive as it used to be, new headlight is generic as well (mine is very distinctive). Illuminated back logo is gimmicky (we cannot do anything about it since it become a new trend in VW group now a days, even for front logo as well). The only welcoming upgrade to me os better infotainment (with those illuminated temp. controll) and and the addition of the 48V battery in 1st tier engine.
Thanks and enjoy 😎
Hey, great video.
How is the wind noise at higher speeds? The previous version was very noisy.
Thanks 🙏 well no difference, this is better in that respect: ruclips.net/video/6ys7HZbL6Oc/видео.htmlsi=X1dEJRit-Fg9rowb
IMO this is like mini Urus. The new front is more modern. 😊
RSQ3 is a mini Urus.
When will you test the new facelift of Golf 8?
I feel that car manufacturers started to offer animal free seats because of Thomas 😅 thanks Thomas
thanks my friend !
Love the facelift. CUPRA are doing amazing things.
They really do. I've always been faithful to Japanese cars but these new Cupras are very tempting... On the other hand, it's a VAG group product and few of my friends had some bad experience with reliability of their cars. Anyway, the facelifted Formentor - very wow.
I bought the Formentor vzx last yeat, the car is really good. It is better than old golf R7.5 regarding the NVH and refinement. The only gripe is the too much things were moved to the touch screen.
The touchscreen is way larger than vw golf mk8 though.
Data & facts:
Cupra Formentor facelift
Cupra launching on US market probably with an electric successor of this one and later with a larger EV SUV
120.000 Formentor sales in 2023 (230.000 overall Cupra sales)
Germany strongest Formentor market
Sharknose front
Matrix LED
4,45 m 175“
18-19“ wheels (19” standard VZ)
Illuminated logo rear
New Century Bronze Matt and Enceladus Grey Matt colors
Opt. DCC 1300 Euro, (standard for VZ)
1.5 TSI 150 hp 6-manual or DSG MHEV 9s
1.5 TSI PHEV FWD 204 hp or VZ 272 hp (7,2 s) 80 km / 50 miles realistic range 11 kW AC / 50 kW DC 20 kWh net
2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD DSG
VZ:
2.0 TSI 265 hp FWD DSG or 333 hp AWD DSG 4,8 s with torque splitter and optional performance brakes, drift mode
2.0 TDI 150 hp DSG
VZ models with sound actuator
PHEV +260 kg
Base seats in textile or sport seats with integrated head restraints in microfibre (standard VZ) or animal skin or lower Cup Bucket seats for the VZ in fabric/microfibre
13“ infotainment standard
Illuminated temperature slider
Sennheiser 12 speaker system optional
Trunk / boot 450 l (420 l with intelligent drive), 345 l PHEV
Price
39.500 Euro / 35.500 pounds entry (manual)
High trim 55.000 Euro
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Subwoofer is counted separately.
I have a Dolby Atmos 9.2.2 That's 9 speakers 2 down-firing Atmos side speakers and two subwoofers, one placed fore and the other aft. Not 13 speaker units to an audiophile except on the credit spreadsheet.
If we counted the speakers we would have to include the tweeters and bass units separately.
How does 44 speakers sound?
I hope this helps.
Thanks! 🙏 Other comment said that a speaker is a speaker caus it emits sound 😄
For home stereos. You have to make that distinction. But not in cars. No one says 8 speakers plus a subwoofer for a car stereo. They'd just say 9 speakers.
I hope they did better job in interior quality. The previous version is very bad after driving for 20k - squeeking everywhere.
Much prefer the nose on the formentor compared to the Leon. It suits the dimensions of the car better. What’s the weight difference between the two?
Is there any improvement on insulation? Previous one has zero insulation and you can hear every each roll of tyre
Why has it got the back end off an MG4?
there are videos from nürnbergring where the face liftet version have the 5 cylinder.. and will you rewiew the hybrid version ???
i mean could be, they said no on location, but maybe they change their minds again dunno
First of all thank you for the very nice review.
I do not like the front bumper, grills etc
I like the rear lights, the logo, i really love the white gauges and the new 13" navi, and also the 12 speakers instead of the beats audio from the previous versions. If i had a choise, i prefer the old one. honestly.
By the way "you should have a different mount for the camera "mounted in sunroof" inside in the car". it is a little "shakely"
I actually loved the formrntor design and even more like the new one
Not so many updates from the previous generation, but I like the new design and the infotainment upgrade is nice.
Also, it's amazing that the PHEV now has double the battery capacity... kinda jealous ngl 😒
Anyways, I'm still happy with my 2021 model :)
Its like Dolby surround sound, 5.1 = 5 speakers, 1 subwoofer, you can hear a subwoofer, but you can't tell where the sound is coming from, thats why you can put it under the boot, or behind a sofa.
I like the headlights of the previous model more. They looked aggressive.
Is the 2.0L 204hp 4wd being dropped. That would be a sweet spot one those looking for slightly more torque than the 1.5L
AWD. Saying 4wd means it refers to trucks.
@@krane15
Nope. Only in the US, but then they get it wrong all the time.
4WD used by JLR for all their vehicles and even Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini
11:02 they could fit the subwoofer in sidewall so it would not waste space under a floor
They absolutely ruined the front. I dont understand why manufacturers are taking an aggressive looking front and making it look soft/cheap. Same as what BMW has done with their 1 Series
Do you know when the 333hp version of the Cupra LEON ST can be ordered?
1.5 engine TSI or eTSI? According to the official site of Cupra, the engine is coming with MHEV technology. Also skoda named this technology MHEV and the engines are eTSI. There is a 48V battery in the car (Kodiaq, Superb). Is this car the same as I mentioned?
1.5 eTSI should be more economical in city drive.
Hi Thomas, so you have a stiffer mount for the middle camera showing the road? At times it wobbles so much I thought you were driving through cobblestones 😂. Maybe use two cords to secure it more? Dunno..
I liked the video thanks for the nice review
I love it , but in black ❤
Great design in the front!
Thanks Thomas! Now I want to trade in my 2022 VZx
After just 2 years? Relax, it's not that big of a difference.
@@livolas Who asked you?
@@Staff7A who asked how you feel about your current car?
Subwoofer is a speaker but it is designated for low frequency sound. We as a buyer want to know if the car has a dedicated subwoofer or a generic speakers.
60K Euro for a C segment crossover, what is VAG smoking. 35K should be the top VZ one.
Just the list price on paper. Nobody buys it for that price. Just look at mobile de, there are tons of vz5's around 40K eur. The most cheapest performance car with 5 cylinder it is a bargain. This will be the same. List price means nothing...
You get 23% discount off the list price in Germany as we speak and there are even better offers if you go for leasing or other financing.
35K you can get a base model of a 1.5 TSI Golf
Cheaper than 60K maybe yes but don't be ridiculous, 35K at this point is a fully specced Fabia, you really think the VZ should be the same price as a Fabia?
The Golf 7.5 GTI cost 35k, how do you expect what is essentially a Golf 8.5 R to cost the same?
Big + for putting proper size speaker in the front door.
Wow awesome car & a great review to go with it but im more interested in the new Cupra Leon 333bhp!!! So hopefully you will be getting that as your next review fine sir!!🤞🏻👌🏻👍🏻😃
Great looking car, really nice interior too
Are the Akrapovic coming on the 333 HP version or is it added / option ?
Option
@@autogefuehl thanks brother ! I’m about to buy the 333 HP version with my wifey. Definitely taking the Akrapovic 🔥
@@christophergensse3412 Akrapovic is a must thing for 333 hp version
@@FeN1xDD I know right ? But I can’t figure out how much it would cost. I’ll ask directly the Capra salesman when I meet him on Tuesday.
@@christophergensse3412 it costs around 4000 eur
With Thomas @ autogefiul in 4k full screen full length ! LETS GO !
way to go!
Was 360 camera quality updated? Loving the update!
Dude that accent is legendary! 😂
😎
Nice car. Wish we had this brand in the US!
probably later in 2025-2026
Its coming, I hear.
Can someone explain me the drift mode please, do it drops 100% back or 50% and just disconnect 50% from front? in other words, does drift mode allows a real rear-wheel drive for full power or max 50%. thanks!
torque vectoring in the rear so you get all power from the rear wheels to one side in the rear. Doesnt mean that there is no power in the front, but its enough to make it spin
@@autogefuehl thanks for Your reply, is it just the same as drift mode in S3 and golf R?
Yes
Not a single color available? Gray, brown gray and slightly blue gray are the only options?
indeed
Its everything gray German roots.
would you say it's a cheaper competitor for the Audi S3?
Can say so
What colour is this please?
10:10 I would like a more detailed demonstration of those hidden isofix points
Good to see it has electric passenger seat now. But for the price, it needs ventilated seats and HUD.
Leah meter at her best
Luckily sold the pre face-lift 310 hp version for a half price. Those cars are buggy as hell. Although everything is covered by warranty, after some 5th time it gets annoying.
Now enjoying Lexus ES300h and would never switch back to VAG.
@@djchristian82 I got steering wheel, vacuum valve and some more minor stuff replaced. Common issues include Brembo brakes, rear view camera etc. Then few times CEL where the issue was never identified.
Great video! What colour is this?
thanks! 00:37
I'm not sure about the price tho, Tiguan starts at 35k right, how does this starts at 40k is mind blowing. Biggest issue in pre redesign based on my experience was nvh noise although it was comfy suspension and AC controls with laggy unit. Other than that all was fine.
In the Netherlands, Tiguan starts closer to €50k
@@DennisDinges you guys have some extra taxes right? In Germany official starting price was 36600 and it's now 34990 for the cheapest one.
Hey, nice video. Did you hear any wind noise while driving?
haha love the 20 - 100 on a 60km road!
Niiiiice one 🤙⭐️
Cupra Tavascan next please. That car is beautiful.
They did a review 3 weeks ago.
@@almac9203 a driving review ?
Better than CX-30? They coming to US or nah?
Thx 👍
Suuuuuper car 🥰
Everyone compares the fanciest versions - maybe it would be worth testing/comparing the basic version of the Porsche 911 992.2 (C2) with the Mercedes AMG GT 43. Such a comparison of rear-wheel drive sports cars would probably be interesting, at least for me.
I seriously considered the previous vzx but I didn't like the blue leather interior that came in most of them also the size was abit too small,if I wanted a small car id get the GOLF R.
I ended up with a TIGUAN R
what color is this
The previous gen was that much better looking. They ruined one the best looking small suvs. Same thing with the new countryman. And its a shame cause they pretty much improved everything else on an already really good vehicle.
totally agree, the old one was mucm more sporty and agressive. this looks like sheit
Yep the new look is like every EV . I’d be upgrading but not prepared to drive something that idly from the front.
I liked the previous one more too, but to be fair to them they had to ditch the Seat styling eventually
@@shroomyesc that is a fair point, but there are better ways to do it
@@gaffeli157 im pretty sure you can just put prevuous wings and front face no prob though
First, the subwoofer is most definitely a speaker. So the only reason someone might say 11 speaker plus subwoofer is the specify that one speaker is dedicated solely to low frequency. In general offering a higher quality sound.
Second, I abosolutley hate bucket seats. They're the worst idea in the auto industry next to fake exhaust and piano black. This is an SUV and regardless of its sportiness you still need to get comfortable.
They may look cool on your daily commute, but take your car on an all-day cross country, and after 8 hours, you will beg for all the adjustments you can get. Especially the headrest which bucket seat don't offer.
Bucket seats are built for the demanding driving position of 2-seater sports cars, not family SUVs. They also make the rear area seem claustrophobic. Especially with those low rear seats. Another short-sighted trend I wish carmakers would stop.
Agree
Still place where right leg touches plastic feels hard and not comfortable in long journeys?
Yep, I totally get that 100%! It really gets uncomfortable!
Damn, they let go of the oil dipping stick?
Did you measure 0-100 acceleration?
Check timecode
@@autogefuehl could you point exact time code? I rewatched 11:16 and 11:34, there is no video with racelogick and no info about 0-100, am I missing something?
Whats the total weight?
I already know, its 2200 maximum
Why can’t they fit the gas strut as standard on the CUPRA , Golf , T rock , polo and Audi A1
They really ruined the front the best part of the old one and they did nothing to improve the interior the worst part of the old one
Essentially this will be what the golf R mk8.5 will be, interesting.
I love it ❤❤❤❤