Pokémon Went TOO FAR?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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    Last time, we explored how Pokemon Scarlet & Violet went dark with the tale of Team Star. This time, we dig into the tragic downfall of Pokemon Sun & Moon's Lusamine!
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  • @charusharu
    @charusharu  Год назад +26

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    • @kodytiffany5686
      @kodytiffany5686 Год назад

      Dear me... the anime was that far off center with the game element plot pieces.
      They really tempered that crazy. At least early on.
      The sanity of any adult sending kids to regulate alien life appearing in your neck of the woods should be questioned... more so when you fathom how much was spent on Ash and them.
      But hyper Yondere was not what I expected.
      The lack of gyms ruined my motivation to complete sun and moon the game. Glad to hear the story part was at least interesting.
      Id
      Ego
      Super Ego
      Perspective... because I always add that separate from the mind and soul.
      I took what I learned of those 3 in HS psychology and related it to my own beliefs.
      I see people as these 4 elements (yes I mean the word Element and not some other... I mean it as Periodic chart of elements type of element)
      Body= Id; both chemically and not chemically. Those impulses regardless of "cause" exist because of how those instincts manifest in the body.
      Mind= Ego, As in your thoughts that are conscious. constantly there and trying to negotiate with the others it is logic and reason; it is not emotions at all. The mechanical more Lizard like calculating and cold part of the self.
      Spirit= Super Ego; Its your subconciousness and emotions. Unlike Id it does not tempt or try to persuade. Its blunt and to the point and so it challenges both the others that try to maintain #1 in your deciding factor.
      Perspective= It is only an observer; and it is the real self at the core of cores. Because without it there is no extroverse activity and everything would be locked into introverse. Its the glue and foundation that the rest are given form by. By the same token it also has the least concrete form to be understood by. To put it another way it is not the light of reason or the shadow of desire; but rather the cones and rods on a persons eyes that allows the understanding of light and shadow.

  • @christopherblackburn9271
    @christopherblackburn9271 Год назад +364

    I would like to point out in US and UM Lusamine calmed down after seeing the might of Necrozma but when you enter the room to fight Giovanni in the after story ( where you fought Lusamine ) all the Pokémon are still frozen soooo….. yeah.😂

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +84

      So she is still quite the nutty lady on any timeline lol.

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Год назад +17

      Not To Mention Ultra Necrozma Became A GOD ! 👍🏽

    • @djwhatadrag
      @djwhatadrag Год назад +13

      ​@charusharu there was an excuse of her freezing them because they were sick

    • @voidastralbirth
      @voidastralbirth Год назад +18

      Maybe she did smarten up, and was about to try thawing them out (secretly, of course) in the time just before Team RR overtook Aether Paradise.

  • @downbeatdialga1341
    @downbeatdialga1341 Год назад +204

    I like the detail during the Mother Beast fight that all of Lusamine’s Pokémon have recovery moves. Clefable’s got Moonlight, I think Milotic had Aqua Ring or Recover, and the others had similar moves. It’s meant to evoke this idea of perpetuation; that she doesn’t want the high from Nihilego’s toxins and her studies of the Ultra Beasts to end. If it ends, then she feels like she’ll lose the last connection she has to her late husband, Mohn.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +34

      That is a really great insight!

    • @georgesantiago1101
      @georgesantiago1101 Год назад +9

      🤯 her character is even more amazing than I thought then

    • @brendanboomhour7606
      @brendanboomhour7606 Год назад +10

      Her husband ain't exactly dead though, he is a faller, just like Annabelle

    • @chavaspada
      @chavaspada Год назад +8

      Meanwhile Mohn chilling on an island farming beans: 🤠

    • @weirdlybearded
      @weirdlybearded Год назад

      But how does she even have that connection with him because of the ultra beasts? Like he's been gone and nothing changes but the end of the game.

  • @underplanet4911
    @underplanet4911 Год назад +78

    The fact Lusamine doesn't care if she abandoned her children, Doesn't care if Nebby dies l, just for the sakes of opening a ultra wormhole. Leave me wondering that this woman is beyond psychopath

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +19

      She's on a whole different level for sure.

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 11 месяцев назад +2

      The anime's Lusamine is the opposite. When she fused with Nihilego, it was a sacrifice for her children, something the game's version of Lusamine would never do. However, she doesn't feel like a completely separate character because her obsession with the Ultra Beasts is still there. It just isn't her core priority like it is in the games. Basically, the anime took Lusamine's core personality and flipped it on its head.

  • @theginkgo
    @theginkgo Год назад +53

    Lusamine is such an interesting character and one of the best executed antagonists in the series in my opinion. I'm really, really enjoying these introspections you've started doing for the villainous characters, I'd absolutely be down to see more of them. Love your editing, too (never has Zekrom looked this terrifying before, oml)!

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +4

      Glad you're enjoying these! It's been refreshing, so hopefully they'll catch on. :)

    • @theginkgo
      @theginkgo Год назад

      @Marav Reviews I've never understood that. The only thing they have in common is that they're bad parents to our friends and rivals, and even then I'd rather compare Ghetsis to Giovanni than to either of the others. And even _then_ it doesn't really fit, as Giovanni simply doesn't care for his son at all instead of actively using him for his own gain. Ghetsis is probably the closest we have in the series to a purely, one-dimensionally evil villain, which like you said, Lusamine is very much not. (Or, to say it with JPR's words: The difference is that Giovanni has an honor code, while Ghetsis is just insane.)

  • @voidastralbirth
    @voidastralbirth Год назад +64

    I truly LOVED experiencing Pokemon Sun. It was my gateway back into Pokemon after leaving it off with Black. The story was very well done, the animation was impressive, the concept of Ultra Beasts is still to this day very interesting, and Mimikyu exists!
    Definitely a 9/10 game overall!

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +4

      It was a lot of fun! I really enjoyed the setting and story, too. :)

    • @dirpycatkittymeowmeow9099
      @dirpycatkittymeowmeow9099 Год назад

      let me geuss z moves are why it's a 9 out of 10 why does everyone hate them?

    • @mordecai144k2
      @mordecai144k2 Год назад

      @@dirpycatkittymeowmeow9099 Well, I don't hate them at all. But the whole thing was kinda "meh" for me. I was one of the ones hoping for more megas, and that's probably what influenced my opinion on Z moves.
      Had I not been exposed to Megas beforehand, I would have probably liked it more.

  • @CraftingGummi
    @CraftingGummi Год назад +20

    To this very day, Nihilego’s cry puts me into fight-or-flight mode.
    Since Pokémon Sun was my first ever Pokémon game, the story still sticks with me, and I tend to come back to it and think about it a lot.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Год назад +3

      This video legitmately motivates me to play through it

    • @MrNoLife.
      @MrNoLife. Год назад

      @@ArtisChronicles Play it, it's good

  • @owenwildish331
    @owenwildish331 Год назад +55

    I quite enjoyed the post-game Team Rainbow Rocket plotline in Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, but I wonder if there was one thing that may have been missing. I mean, imagine a surprise twist where Lusamine from the Sun & Moon timeline (or rather from an alt timeline of the original Sun & Moon where she had won) was now secretly working closely alongside Rainbow Rocket's Giovanni and was the actual final boss following Giovanni's battle and her other, (perhaps less malevolent & less crazy) self from the Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon timeline meet and is disgusted by her evil other-self from that timeline...? (Now imagine what would happen if Nihilego attached itself to... Nemona from Scarlet & Violet..!?, lol)

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +15

      I love that idea. And Nihilego attaching itself to Nemona would be a pretty freaky scenario indeed lol.

    • @AnonymousEnigma19
      @AnonymousEnigma19 Год назад +7

      Speaking of Team Rainbow Rocket, I'm shocked that they're not in the anime, that's what they should do for Ash and Pikachu's final hurrah, make it a movie, have not just him but every traveling companion, rival, and friend he made along his journey join him in this final battle against Team Rainbow Rocket with Faba be replaced by chairman Rose, it's too bad I don't think we're going to get that.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      @@AnonymousEnigma19 Yeah, it would have been brilliant to see Team Rainbow Rocket... but alas ;-;

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Год назад +1

      @@kyuremthehomie123You’re Delusional ! It’s The Best Post-Game Ever & Ultra Necrozma Is STRONGER & BETTER Than Arceus ! 💯💯

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Год назад +1

      @@kyuremthehomie123 Says Wayyy More People Other Than Myself , Stay Mad About It Goofy .. Ultra Necrozma’s Game Is Top 3 & He’s STRONGER And BETTER Than Arceus !!! 💪🏽😎

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg Год назад +25

    This is really well written Pokemon antagonist. It starts with personal tragedy, and then it leads further into the darkness (I don't think that even Pokemon Special manga was so bold with her).
    In case of her final form the game devs did take some inspiration from the Pokemon Reburst manga (it's not very popular take on pokemon, but personally I like it).
    PS. The fandom really did make a lot of crazy fanart of Lumine and Nihilego.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +7

      Reburst is pretty wild - I actually have a full set of it and have been wanting to do a video on it. And yes, there is definitely a lot of wild fan art out there lol.

    • @thunnus_albacares
      @thunnus_albacares Год назад +1

      ​@maravreviews4035final boss of Megaman X8, perhaps

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Год назад +1

      ​@@charusharu wild 😏😏

    • @deviousj5868
      @deviousj5868 Год назад +1

      She was great antagonist. Not cartoonishly evil like the other Team Leaders.

  • @dspace4514
    @dspace4514 Год назад +3

    There is always one messed up thing in a Pokemon game.
    In Kanto you have Lavender Town.
    In Johto, Raikou Entei and Suicune were apparently reincarnated by Ho-oh.
    In Hoeen, the teams went from just stealing Pokemon to wanting to cause a flood/drought of the entire region.
    In Sinnoh, you are trying to stop time and space from collapsing.
    In Kalos, you literally had a World War Pokemon WHERE YOU VISIT THEIR GRAVES!

  • @NightoftheLivingcookies10
    @NightoftheLivingcookies10 Год назад +7

    She’s literally a PG version of Ragyo from Kill La Kill. I hear her villain theme every time Lusamine appears on screen

  • @oscarmendez1477
    @oscarmendez1477 Год назад +12

    Lusamine is very different in USUM, and SM and in the anime.
    In the anime she is a caring mother that eventually falls to Nihiliego but the Type Null situation was done only by one of her subordinates.
    In USUM, I believe she is a still caring mother, but since Necrozma might destroy Alola, for fear off losing more people beloved to her, she takes the villain's route, she not exactly evil but she takes the whole burden for herself. Guzma is not hired but actually respects her.
    I have not played SM, I only have seen parts of the story, but having such a great detail in analyzing the character is very cool. Lusamine is so different in both games. This is a person that lost her marbles because of a toxin, and people could not stop her until MC arrives.
    I personally like USUM more. Although SM Lusamine can be a great villain and a great analyzation of ID, Super Ego and Ego, Lusamine is not the only character that takes most of the development or has to run the whole plot o revolve around it.
    Guzma and team skull are not just some gang, they are a group of rejects whom Guzma give a place to belong. Lilie becomes more courageous and you can see to the point of challenging you as one of the possible trainers when you defend your title as a Champion. Lusamine does not have to be evil or have lost her mind, she can still have her mental faculty, and her goals have a lot of bias of her taking over everything because of the loss of her husband. Also, Necrozma lore and story are very interesting.
    A being that provided light but was so abused because of its power it became too hurt that it lost its original form. Because of such action, it wants to steal all the light and attack anyone to prevent it to lose its form again. When I fight it, it felt more like a beast that could not trust humanity again. So it not only t felt like I was attacking a monster with all my might, but this monster was doing the same.
    A lot of characters get developed in USUM, even many members of Team Skull. And I really like that. And once again, I like that Necrozma was not some big bad, it was fighting us at its best because of trauma, rage, and also fear of losing its form once again.
    Although the frozen Pokemon in USUM...it kind of makes sense now. Given how they play Lusamine throughout the story in USUM, the frozen Pokemon did not make sense to me. I was always confused about it and how they gloss over it and no one mentions it ever again or Lusamine does not show such hobbies again or says she stop doing that.
    I see this as a leftover from SM. A cool scene that took some time to make in the battle before she goes in the Wormhole with Guzma to defeat Necrozma and save Alola. I think they just though it took more effort to take away, and it could be a nice Easter egg from SM.
    I will say it, SM's Lusamine character does sound like a great trip, and at the same time one of the great differences in story and character. Even in Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum did not had such a great change in story and characters in the third version. I say characters because Guzma is not just some underling. He respects and admires Lusamine, and wants to save Alola with her.
    Since I did not play SM and only saw parts of the story, besides Lusamine, I cannot say if SM, has the exact way as the characters play out. For one I do not think SM Guzma and USM Guzma are the same. Hau and Gladion I do not think they change that much. I think Lillie becomes more courageous in my opinion that is clouded by not having played the first game. Pretty much the majority of the characters with the exception of some team Skull members, Guzma, and Lusamine are the same (from the ones that SM and USUM share).

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      Lots of great info here - thanks for sharing! It's really interesting how she's been handled across these alternate universes.

    • @oscarmendez1477
      @oscarmendez1477 Год назад +2

      @@charusharu Thanks for the video! I will like to thank you for getting me into Pokemon Journeys! I would have not watched it without your videos, each time making me click on them.
      Thanks to that I watch all of Journeys and witnessed the great momentum of how Ash becomes the Pokemon Champion of the world!
      Thank you very much!

    • @First-to-last
      @First-to-last Год назад

      I mean ultra does cut down on gladions and Lillie's personal arc

    • @oscarmendez1477
      @oscarmendez1477 Год назад

      @@First-to-last Although that may be true, I prefer a Lillie wanting to challenge me for the champion title, than her having to take care of her ill mother without reward.

  • @anivibes2968
    @anivibes2968 Год назад +35

    Lusamine is by far the Most terrifying villain in pokemon. Nothing is more dangerous than an angered mother. She still gives me chills

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +5

      I think I agree - she is one freaky lady.

    • @sebastianalvaradocolon5983
      @sebastianalvaradocolon5983 Год назад +6

      Oh please. Lusimane is NOTHING compared to a Hispanic mother armed with the Chancla.
      There is no escape from the Chancla
      The Chancla will get you!

    • @dandytv1510
      @dandytv1510 Год назад +7

      Nope. Ghetsis still takes the cake for most villainous pokemon villain to ever villain.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      @@sebastianalvaradocolon5983 Haha I had to look up "chancla" but that is indeed terrifying.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +5

      @@dandytv1510 He's probably the worst of the worst - will get to him sooner or later.

  • @TheRoomforImprovement
    @TheRoomforImprovement Год назад +5

    I think it’s fitting that she has a bewear on her team. IT’s described in the Pokédex as being strong enough to break people’s spines with hugs. Like Lusamine, their “love” destroys all they care about.

  • @TheOriginalItsCake
    @TheOriginalItsCake Год назад +3

    A small detail in Lusime's last battle, all of her pokemon look angry, except for Bewear

  • @georgesantiago1101
    @georgesantiago1101 Год назад +11

    I wished Lusamine would have been in the Master’s 8 Tournament, I would have love to see a match beteeen her and Cinthia or Diantha.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +4

      It would definitely be fun to see her in action again. :)

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Год назад +1

      For just a momebt I thought you were referencing the sword abd shield dlc tournament

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 11 месяцев назад

      Lusamine's not as much a trainer as she is a businesswoman. Her Pokemon are quite powerful but nowhere near Champion level, at least not in the anime.

  • @BJCMXY
    @BJCMXY Год назад +5

    I actually appreciated the darkness covered in the series.

  • @MontycelA
    @MontycelA Год назад +2

    I loved how Pokémon tried radically insane villains, starting off slow with Archie and Maxie, then moving to Cyrus whose goals slowly became more outlandish, to Ghetsis who was the classical manipulator and lying villain who just wants to watch the world burn, then Lysandre who had so much wasted potential but essentially wanted to nuke a city to preserve its beauty (stupid thought process ik), but Lusamine really filled in where Lysandre failed showing valid motivation for her actions. I hope Pokémon does better than their most recent villains because apart from Sada/Turo, their recent team leaders and antagonists have been underwhelming and ün intimidating compared to past villains.

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite Год назад +4

    I was really disappointed they removed some of her development in USUM

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      It was certainly a bit of a different take on the character!

  • @pierrelewis6819
    @pierrelewis6819 Год назад +4

    You know what, I will like to see a more "grown-up" take on Pokémon as a show and or game. All of them aside, you did a really good job, with this video..

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      I think that would be cool too. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @abdullahsepic
    @abdullahsepic Год назад +9

    truly one of the insane pokemon moments of all time

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      Absolutely insane for sure.

  • @alexrusso47
    @alexrusso47 Год назад +4

    The story is definitely amazing!! Thank you for another great video Charles!! ❤🎉 I look forward to your next one!! I love all your videos! I hope you’re doing well

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Thanks, poke girl! Much appreciated! Hope you're doing well, too.

  • @rexorchid9745
    @rexorchid9745 Год назад +1

    I loved the SoLuna games and after playing both Sun and Ultra Sun, I get the vibes that SoLuna and Ultra Soluna were Bad End and Good End, respectively, for Lusamine. For me, it would explain why the gameplay and events were almost identical with few differences here and there between the games.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie Год назад +6

    Lillie and Lusamine would have to be my favorite character out of all the pokemon series.
    This is why. Lillie sweetness and how sinister Lusamine can be.
    Here’s a pun now,
    Lus-a-mine
    Lu-sa-me
    Lus-mind
    Also what do you think of this dress? Do you think I should go with another one?
    -------------------
    I see myself slowly becoming like Lusamine.
    I see myself becoming a role model to others and my desire is growing within myself and other accelerating.
    I attempt to create beauty. I wearing nihilego went, Commenting to now creating.
    I have plummeted into my own madness but I’m lucky that people were to help save myself from going too far from the abyss alot.
    I see the warning, Now I embrace both sides. Lillie and Lusamine, that why I’m Lusallie.

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Год назад +2

      This is beautifully said, but I don't think that getting inspired by Lusamine, even just a little bit, is a good thing.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      Lus-mind - I like the pun haha.

  • @TheEphemeralEternity
    @TheEphemeralEternity Год назад +1

    So the true meaning of the sun and moon storyline is that even saints can be sick at their core when you remove their inhibitions...a good lesson, but a dark one gamefreak. Thank goodness we have those inhibitions.

  • @lightdarksoul2097
    @lightdarksoul2097 Год назад +6

    I'm excited to see what may be announced tomorrow for Pokemon day and especially for DLC for S/V. I mean if what so many think is true and the third legend we know is out there really is evil or the big end fight it would be interesting to see what you think. I mean in a main line game there hasn't really been a evil pokemon villain. Maybe Necrozma or Eternatus but they seem to be more just following what they are. It's their nature. Most of the time pokemon are controlled or being forced to do bad by humans. a pokemon who is just evil and actually uses humans would be crazy to see. I think the xy anime did a bit of that with Malimar but more would be cool

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      I hope we get news of DLC! We'll find out pretty soon. :)

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Год назад

      All I Know Is U-Necrozma >>>>>>>>>arceus

    • @Dipped1234
      @Dipped1234 Год назад

      PLOT TWIST! The third legendary is a cute lil turtle! His name is Terapagos.

  • @M0i100
    @M0i100 Год назад +9

    I prefer replaying USUM, but I really wish they wouldn't have changed Lusamine's story so much. They could have built on the story as a whole and truly made it the definitive versions.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      Yeah, ti was an interesting choice - though at the very least it's interesting to see how differently events can turn out across alternate timelines.

  • @lissastargazer
    @lissastargazer Год назад +1

    I’m glad people are still talking about Sun and Moon all these years later. I was bored with it at first honestly and only pretty recently finished it. The story is great, the postgame is great, and I love shiny hunting in these games. Can’t wait to give USUM a try soon as well 😊
    Edit for a small P.S.: Lusamine is exactly who I think of when I hear the term “toxic feminity.” She’s like the picture of it, her whole thing is overprotective mother cranked up to 11. And it’s not without reason; Lusamine herself is likely also traumatized by the sudden loss of her husband.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie Год назад +6

    There is reason why I’m the Lillie who more Lusamine.

  • @LuwiigiMaster
    @LuwiigiMaster Год назад +1

    I like how Pokémon has these really elaborate plot devices and half the villains wouldn't be out of place from something like Jojo, and then it's completely juxtaposed by them being clapped by a mere chipmunk faced child, in a child's hobby.

  • @darkscarflame4822
    @darkscarflame4822 Год назад +3

    Not only is Lusamine dark in the story but also the rule 34 fandom is also rather dark

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      The rule 34 fandom is indeed an absolute free for all.

  • @asteria5382
    @asteria5382 Год назад

    Arvin to Lillie and Gladion: dw guys i have a great therapist

  • @jsbaldo5556
    @jsbaldo5556 Год назад +2

    Never got to play this, Didn't think it would ruin the story because I played Ultra Moon, BUT DANG DID ULTRA MOON AND SUN
    butcher this story, I never got to see the extreme of her mom! She doesn't merge with anything in Ultra Moon... WOW
    Now I get why they say The story is 10x better in sun and moon

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      Yeah, USUM was certainly a different take on the story!

  • @Syenthros
    @Syenthros Год назад +1

    I'm disappointed that my first experience with Gen 7 was with Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon. While the gameplay and pacing was overall improved, I feel like the whole Lusamine arc was undercut and severely toned down, leading to an unsatisfying experience.

  • @ryutak777
    @ryutak777 Год назад

    Losing yourself is perhaps one of the most terrifying things that could happen to anyone.

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood Год назад

    It's like Lusamine saw herself as the "Aether" Paradise Protection Protocol...

  • @virom4
    @virom4 Год назад +1

    The biggest misstep of Sun/Moon is that GF was too afraid to not make a player insert and just make Lily the MC of the game.

  • @nerdycookiebunny856
    @nerdycookiebunny856 Год назад +4

    I still love Anime Lusamine while she still has her..goals and well thoughts she’s not as insane as her Game counterpart she cares and loves her kids and they come first to her before anything else.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      Anime Lusamine is definitely more balanced haha.

  • @maddiesmenagerie8853
    @maddiesmenagerie8853 Год назад +1

    This was my favorite pokemon storyline, and I was pissed when I played through UsUm and found out they butchered it

  • @ferreiraisabel1655
    @ferreiraisabel1655 Год назад +1

    lol, it's funny because you've made that video wile i was busy drawing that Nihilego form but with Volo instead of Lusamine, i just thaught it would be fun to do and it was, plus they have the same colors palette and that reminded me of a theory by Bird keeper Toby 🤔😁

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Cool! That would be an interesting piece of art to see. :)

  • @ragnarokaeon8242
    @ragnarokaeon8242 Год назад +1

    Nihilego actually reminds me of human 'parasites', they create a sense of dependency and cause erosion in their target's relationships. They do so by causing them to believe everyone is betraying them, isolating them from other people (Gladios and Lily). They then provide 'support and caring' once their victim is feeling betrayed and inferior and make it so that they are the only one their victim can rely on. Lusamine was the opposite of 'freed', her dependency is akin to stockholm syndrome.

  • @vaya-dragon1998
    @vaya-dragon1998 Год назад +1

    The original Sun and Moon’s story is so much better than Ultra Sun/Moon’s story.

  • @MewsHeart151
    @MewsHeart151 Год назад

    7:17 just the pikachu alone proves she's heartless😡🔪

  • @BraydenDoes_Stuff
    @BraydenDoes_Stuff Год назад

    oh my god I've only watched the sun and moon anime I didn't know lucamine freaking DIED

  • @jonathonseilhan1555
    @jonathonseilhan1555 Год назад +2

    And those kicks are straight dad approved!!

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      Yes they are! I also have their Weekend Chelsea's (black) for a sleek look when it isn't so cold out. :)

  • @claritasyoutubechannel3312
    @claritasyoutubechannel3312 Год назад

    There's actually more to Lusamine having "no ego;" Freud based the triad of superego, ego, and id, off of older philosophical beliefs of the human person being made up of the mind, will and body, these beliefs go back all the way to at least Egypt probably even farther. In these ancient traditions view the mind/superego as symbolized by the head, the body/id as symbolized by the bowels or guts, and the will/ego as symbolized by the heart.
    In other words, Lusamine is heartless.

  • @awkwardsquirtle
    @awkwardsquirtle Год назад +1

    One of the best stories and they had the gall to tone it down in USUM. Shame

  • @azetka4029
    @azetka4029 Год назад

    12:39
    No. Not merely several. All those squares lining up the walls in the background? Those are all the same containers with cryo-preserved pokemon. Personally, I like to think, aside from the horror factor, that it was a slight jab at players with Living-dex collections in their PC boxes or Pokebank.
    Either way, realization of that hit me hard.

  • @GarryDKing
    @GarryDKing Год назад +3

    all this insanity from the first sun and moon game, a shame it got ultra nerfed in the ultra games and the anime.....
    of course scarlet and violet would show us what'd happen to Lusamine if she did go even further than she did in the original, unimpeded by kids: she'd probably be as dead as Sada and Turo!
    in a sense, the 3 are pretty similar, the only difference is Lusamine got interferred with in time, while no one was there to stop either Sada or Turo from going into the deep, and in the end they technically died alone when their paradox lizards fought each other and killed the professors by accident....

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      A shame indeed! I thought it was one of the most striking elements of the original SM games. Good points about how things could have ended up had Lusamine continued down that path.

    • @Dipped1234
      @Dipped1234 Год назад

      Though that is true, I feel like most of the lost Lusamine time was used for Ultra Necrozma. And without Ultra Necrozma, we wouldn't have that banger of a theme. (And frankly, one of the only hard battles in the entire series, and thats good.)

    • @goldegreen
      @goldegreen Год назад

      ​@@Dipped1234 Ahh Ultra Necrozma. I failed so many times that I ended up just cheesing it with Toxic Mimikyu lol

    • @Dipped1234
      @Dipped1234 Год назад

      @@goldegreen Affection Palossand Shadow Ball go brrr

  • @chukasssss
    @chukasssss 3 месяца назад

    I feel like Lusamine peaked at the original SM games. USUM kinda softened her character and made her palatable, almost as if she gets a pass for being the only woman supervillain in Pokémon at that point thus far. But if there's any takeaway from USUM that I actually really loved, it's Mohn showing up in Aether Foundation, not knowing who Lusamine is and Lusamine deciding to let Mohn go. That scene broke my heart into millions of pieces.

  • @shad0w7x56
    @shad0w7x56 Год назад +2

    0:41 Wait that guy is lily and gladion’s dad? Bro I thought he was a woman💀

  • @ailehunter
    @ailehunter Год назад +1

    we're waiting... for Pokemon Masters' Alola Villain Arc....
    MC&Solgaleo for EX soon huhu....
    I am waiting for Lusamine&Nihilego :O

  • @coconut_tv0564
    @coconut_tv0564 Год назад +1

    I'll say it right here, Lusamine may very well be the best villain in all of pokemon

  • @God_Slaying_Machine
    @God_Slaying_Machine Год назад

    the way you were so real in this video lol

  • @KeyboardSerpent
    @KeyboardSerpent Год назад +5

    And this isn't even mentioning how she took advantage of a broken man and manipulated him into doing her bidding. She even bought him a damn boat, which I forgot about before seeing it in this video.
    It was so much more than just 'hiring' him and his gang. Simply hiring him wouldn't have been enough to make anyone jump through a wormhole after her into an unknown alien dimension. There's obviously so much more going on under the surface of that toxic relationship that I would just love to see unpacked.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      This is an awesome insight - it would be really interesting to explore that relationship in more detail.

    • @KeyboardSerpent
      @KeyboardSerpent Год назад +1

      @charusharu You can visit Guzma's House on Route 2, it sets up the foundations of his character very well. Hints at how he wanted to be a trial captain but never made it, hints at physical abuse from his father, sets up a MASSIVE superiority complex with the trophies he won that the game explicitly tells you not a single one is for first place...
      And Lusamine is exactly the kind of person who would take advantage of all that backstory for a loyal servant who will do whatever she asks, just by making him feel he's worth something.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      @@KeyboardSerpent He's definitely another tragic character worth digging into. A great potential topic for a future video. :)

    • @KeyboardSerpent
      @KeyboardSerpent Год назад +1

      @charusharu I think he absolutely is. Combine that backstory with the found family he's fostered between the grunts he cares for (all of them unable to complete their island challenge, just like he couldn't) and he's truly one of the best and most well-written characters in Pokémon. In my opinion, of course.

  • @veenadayma6514
    @veenadayma6514 Год назад

    I am appreciating Charles for covering both the games and the anime aspects these days.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Glad you're enjoying these! It means a lot.

  • @cheyennethesylveon6186
    @cheyennethesylveon6186 Год назад +1

    I headcanon that lusamine is another descendant of volo just makes sense to me (like I said it's just a headcanon it's not Canon as far as I'm aware)

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      That would be pretty interesting indeed - they definitely have their similarities.

    • @Dipped1234
      @Dipped1234 Год назад

      Oh no her theme even has a piano

  • @M_Blue57
    @M_Blue57 Год назад +1

    Lusamine in Anime:I care about pokemon and my children but I got abducted by a alien pokemon
    Lusamine in games:I DONT CARE ABOUT MY CHILDREN OR POKÉMON I JUST CARE ABOUT MY SWEET SWEET NINHELIGO AAAAAAAA

  • @spkn
    @spkn Год назад +2

    truly one of the insane pokemon moments ever

  • @taggerung890
    @taggerung890 Год назад

    Holy cow I never played usum but I can't imagine the trauma on Lillie

  • @Pine230
    @Pine230 10 дней назад

    The only thing I don't like about Sun & Moon is Lillie going to Kanto at the end...

  • @kyles9093
    @kyles9093 Год назад +1

    Man this description of toxins and inhibitions. I’m struggling atm with alcoholism.

  • @thelastgamurai
    @thelastgamurai Год назад +2

    Would you fuse with a Diglett or a Dugtrio?

  • @kyuupid217
    @kyuupid217 Год назад

    lusamine in the sun and moon games was such a good villain i wish we had more villains that were actually insane instead of being just normal people who occasionally do something slightly wrong

  • @tyforestreacts
    @tyforestreacts 5 месяцев назад

    Lusamine was so hardcore that the franchise tried to retroactively make her a good guy, which ironically ruined her entire story.

  • @toneeyyhh
    @toneeyyhh Год назад +2

    This is a hot take but I think Ultra sun and Ultra moon are the best games in the series. Good Story, cool animations and good character and Pokémon designs.

  • @axelaliens153
    @axelaliens153 Год назад +1

    Sun and Moon anime Lusamine is a saint compared to her game counterpart.

  • @PandragonV
    @PandragonV Год назад

    Yeah this is really different to the vilains we have in pokemon now...

  • @tomnorton4277
    @tomnorton4277 11 месяцев назад

    Lusamine's a great character. Both versions of her. The anime's incarnation is a flawed but loving mother who threw herself between her children and Nihilego without hesitation. The game's incarnation is a narcissist who's hyper focussed on the Ultra Beasts so her motives for fusing with Nihilego were entirely self-serving. Her core priorities in the anime are the reverse of what they are in the games.

  • @WellManNerd
    @WellManNerd Год назад

    French fries strapped to his head… bro.
    You make life better

  • @Mariomaster157
    @Mariomaster157 Год назад

    I wonder, is anime Lusamine as crazy as her Game counterpart
    I think no the Anime version seems to care about Lillie and when fused with Nhilego it seems to more on the UB then her.

  • @makeeeveeacupcake
    @makeeeveeacupcake Год назад +4

    Lusamine is my favorite pokemon villain, but favorite evil team is team galactic

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Galactic is great! I look forward to getting to a video on them.

  • @rishiaman2288
    @rishiaman2288 Год назад +2

    the french fries😂😂

  • @will420high4
    @will420high4 Год назад

    I miss those 3DS pkmn games, they were amazing!

  • @TheMagnificentRaft
    @TheMagnificentRaft Год назад

    I think it would be a good new step to make pokemon lore and scenarios evolve in an interesting manner. I mean, all fans toddlers of the franchise have grown up since the first versions. It's time to be less naive about illegal animal fight

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 Год назад +3

    So are you gonna do one for every game now lol

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +3

      Possibly! Generally moving through the characters I find most interesting to begin. :)

  • @BraydenDoes_Stuff
    @BraydenDoes_Stuff Год назад

    3:55 look behind the text

  • @dirpycatkittymeowmeow9099
    @dirpycatkittymeowmeow9099 Год назад

    hopefully we can get a remake (not counting ultra sun/moon) I miss poke pelago and the small customization options characters ah nastolgia

  • @ZenithintheMaking
    @ZenithintheMaking Год назад +1

    9:20- 10:04 Mega props for creating all of this 👏 did you do like a study or something?

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +2

      Thanks! I just wanted to create some visuals to represent the fine line through chaos that's necessary to walk along if we want to grow without losing ourselves. You'll find similar ideas in Taoism (i.e. yin and yang) and various other philosophies. :)

    • @ZenithintheMaking
      @ZenithintheMaking Год назад

      @@charusharu Hehe noted👍

  • @Cardlimits
    @Cardlimits Год назад

    A dream that took over you're life so badly, you nearly lost your entire family.

  • @georgesantiago1101
    @georgesantiago1101 Год назад +1

    I want a Pokémon game focused on the villains

  • @adrianoctavio
    @adrianoctavio Год назад +1

    SV spoilers
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    So this is how sada/turo would've been to arven had they been alive. ROUGH.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      Could very well have been the case. Rough indeed!

  • @MaestroAlvis
    @MaestroAlvis Год назад

    Wait, striping someone of their ego and super ego is still SOMETHING

  • @CyborgForgael
    @CyborgForgael Год назад

    Wow, no wonder much of this was retconned in USUM.

  • @Absbor
    @Absbor Год назад +1

    i wish everyone is as open minded like you to stories. but noooooo.... all those old folks prefer gen 1 and think rby is the masterpiece in terms of story. good video

    • @SairinEarthsea
      @SairinEarthsea Год назад

      Mostly I see the black & white elitist talking smack about every other game.

    • @Absbor
      @Absbor Год назад +1

      @@SairinEarthsea for me are the 30 yo boomers going "mimimimimmimimi. back then everything was better."

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 Год назад +5

    You should do xy People underestimate that game it’s story is darker and more mature than they realize

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Год назад +1

      So true. Especially with the Pokemon attached to the stones of Route 10 that almost died by getting drained of their Life Force to power the Ultimate Weapon.

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 Год назад

      @@Oceane1803 actually I was referring to the parallels between team flare and the Nazis but that too

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Год назад +2

      @@madnessarcade7447 All the Pokemon Life Force lore is much, much darker than just that.

  • @bennygunawan6385
    @bennygunawan6385 Год назад

    Atleast Lusamine in the Anime is not a sicko, psycopath, evil

  • @yurilulu5500
    @yurilulu5500 Год назад

    I was never able to play the sun and moon games because i didn't have smth thats compatible in the game
    And this looks amazing! :D
    And it was hilarious when u called gladion an angsty boi with french fries strapped on his head XD
    4:07
    Reminds me of anya face is this where she got it-
    At least in the pokemon sun and moon anime she is different and kinder

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Haha the french fries cannot be unseen!

    • @yurilulu5500
      @yurilulu5500 Год назад

      @@charusharu fun fact in Philippines we have a charecyer who has french fries for his head his name is popo and is one of the mascots for jolibee! :D

  • @somescottishlassie891
    @somescottishlassie891 Год назад

    Pokemon can be super messed up if you look for it, this time they decided to be more obvious.
    In alola you get a 3 for 1 deal on childhood trauma.

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад +1

      Yeah, they didn't hold back on this one haha.

  • @OGSpaceMarine
    @OGSpaceMarine Год назад

    You leave Mr. Mime out of this

  • @HelenaSan425
    @HelenaSan425 Год назад +4

    I'm just Happy to see you Charles 🙂

  • @BeebopChickenpock
    @BeebopChickenpock Год назад

    That game was the best - haven't played any new ones

  • @dobs8697
    @dobs8697 Год назад

    Me who is actually playing this game right now

  • @ImyIsStillHere
    @ImyIsStillHere Год назад

    If you want to see "too far" read the Pokémon adventures manga especially Xy's chapter as it is especially "interesting".

  • @MizuHime07
    @MizuHime07 Год назад

    Geebus I completely forgot how this story went..guess that means I need to replay Sun and US

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      Yeah, it's a pretty wild ride haha.

    • @MizuHime07
      @MizuHime07 Год назад

      @Marav Reviews oh I know, it’s just that it’s been years since i played the game so I forgot how intense the story was

  • @Anthonthephoenixearl
    @Anthonthephoenixearl Год назад

    Is this in the normal sun and moon bc I have US/UM and the boss fight against Lusamine never happened

  • @gioshideout
    @gioshideout Год назад

    You knocked this out of the park!

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it :)

    • @gioshideout
      @gioshideout Год назад

      @@charusharu I have a degree in applied psychology, and really enjoyed the resolution you came to at the end. Great work!

    • @charusharu
      @charusharu  Год назад

      @@gioshideout Awesome! I really appreciate the kind words. Hope you enjoy the next character study as well. :)

  • @danieldutoit2187
    @danieldutoit2187 Год назад

    You can tell Lusamine wanted to be with Nihilego for a long time because in her crazy longing she made her daughter dress like one

  • @SuperMetalyrics
    @SuperMetalyrics Год назад

    Wonder what humanity would do with Nihilego?

  • @PinkWolf_YT
    @PinkWolf_YT Год назад

    I only watched the sm anime and holy crap they rlly toned Lusamine and the intensity compared to the game

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 11 месяцев назад

      They reversed Lusamine's priorities in the anime. In the games, her fascination with the Ultra Beasts is her main priority and her sense of responsibility towards her children is all but non-existent. In the anime, she's still interested in the Ultra Beasts but Lillie and Gladion are her main priority. The scene where she throws herself between them and Nihilego really demonstrates how her core personality is the opposite of the game's incarnation.