Good tips in this video. My river has strong current and usually windy. I really need to install a kneeling seat. Love the stone wall, alot. Nice Quebec canoe. I have my eye on a tformex boat. Im using a royalite dagger, an old timer these days. Doesnt like Quebec winters, Gflex is my friend. I do take very good care of the old girl. Cheers, Paul, Laval, Qc.
There isn't that much outfitting needed, this person just chooses it for his needs. Both of those boats are going to be very heavy especially the Esquif prospector. Like I paddle a canoe almost half the weight for the same size. But I can't go through rapids the same. What a light boat can do is portage very comfortably. There's a big difference portaging a heavy canoe or kayak 100m around rapids and waterfalls vs 1km between lakes. The floatation he adds is usually unnecessary, usually reserved for rough water. And all the lines he attaches are somewhat over preparation, kind of a Swiss army knife philosophy, a tool of everything always. Your outfitting should reflect what you're doing with your canoe. Talk to local paddlers for local advice on local waters.
Great info on the setup of your dry bag. Using it as a rescue couter-balance is a great idea. I pull a loop through my rear carrying hand that is long enough to go about 6" under the water to use as a step to get back in.
Lovely explanation. Excellent use of knots. Your bowline, however, is technically a "cowboy bowline," which is fine. But in a proper bowline the tail will end inside of the loop, not on the outside. It depends on which side you "poke the end through." Yet, your method is more versatile because you can easily adjust the size of the loop, as you demonstrated.
Great video. Curious about the types of rescue/ floatable ropes you’ve used. Looking to add these to my canoe. Great advice. Cheers from the other side of the pond.
You might want to replace that red and white climbing sling. The white fibers are Spectra, which loose a significant amount of their strength when wet. Just a thought.
Question for you about your floatation. The idea of having a canoe without built-in flotation is a foreign concept here in the US. What do you see as the advantages of having a canoe that requires air bags as flotation? For example, I own Wenonah and Nova Craft canoes made in the US and Canada, respectively, and both have built-in air chambers so I don't have to use air bags.
All depends on what you are doing with the boat, and how much buoyancy you need and consideration of weight, lots of our awards require a self rescue of flipping a canoe in the water, the bigger the bags the less water is in the boat when climbing back in, also displaces water in a white water environment ie pins ect. However if you’re using your boat for more expedition you might not want the airbag taking up space so again I just depends on the type of usage that you use your boat for.
Great video, keep them coming. Which construction type did you go for on the Afon? How do you find it handles on flat water? I'm looking to buy a smaller canoe that will do everything, I know there is always a compromise, but something that will handle river G1/2 water, a bit of sailing and some flat water Lochs too. cheers Richard
Hi Richard I ve got the corelite one which is 39kg it’s pretty heavy but ok on the water, It doesn’t track that well compared to prosecutor, but it’s ok, it’s better on the more waves lager grade rivers. It’s very forgiving and stable but does take some power to get it going, I think there maybe a smaller Afon on the cards, I think the tri lite one is worth checking out. It’s always the case of Try before you buy, not sure where your based but Devon welcome to try mine or N wales rich at TNR would do the same. I would look at other options if you manly open water hope that helps
@@inspiringadventure8783 Thanks Gary for the advice and reply. Its a pity I'm at the other side of the country in Aberdeen, Scotland or I would have taken you up on the offer. Cheers for that. As you say, try the boats out and see which one I like the most before parting with any cash. Canoe reviews are few and far between in RUclips which I'm surprised at. Anyway keep the videos coming there are very good. All the best, cheers Richard
Esquif prospector 16' is probably the most Do everything boat ever made. I don't know if I'd call it small though, when picking smaller boats than that narrower is faster and tracks better, otherwise full width boats are slugs, good for fishing but little else, very inefficient to paddle long distance. Generally 17' is the magic number for full sized canoe, but hard to solo, 16' is the ultimate hybrid to have a boat that can both solo and tandem.
Goodness that's already a heavy Esquif canoe to start with, and you add even more weight, I'm thinking at least 80lbs. I'm guessing your routes don't portage much like my Canadian waterway.
Yeah it’s not super light, but all depends on what you are doing, if I was doing a lot more portaging without a trolley I would shave a much weight as I can of the kit and outfitting and consider a different boat, but most of its work is not to far from good access ect
@@inspiringadventure8783 trolly, no thank you, too much kit, and never a guarantee the path will accommodate. Lots of exposed bedrock where our best canoeing is. And the longer portages keep the silly kayakers away.
Scott Thomson, I got the foam from ASwatersports in Exeter, but it was a random find out back, I am sure there are Close cell foam companies on amazon I used evo stick both sides and cleaned the boat with meths And left it with weight on the mat for a few days it’s still good 4 years on I think the matting is 4cm thick and is worth it
Hi George I used plastic wast pipe from a DIY store, they come in different diameters so check own pole size, length is about 80 cm but It just helps the rubbing on the air bag Cheers Gary
Depending on what type of seat you have, in a gunnel hung seat you can get a different sizes spacer to raise the seat, any hand carpenter could knock out a set in no time. You would need another spacer below the seat too or get a shorter bolt. Though this isn't a quick change system, but not too much work if doing a long trip. If you have rivet mounted seats like my Souris River Quetico, you could add shims to raise the seat but would definitely need different fastening hardware. Lowering for such a setup would be more difficult though.
Good tips in this video. My river has strong current and usually windy. I really need to install a kneeling seat. Love the stone wall, alot. Nice Quebec canoe. I have my eye on a tformex boat. Im using a royalite dagger, an old timer these days. Doesnt like Quebec winters, Gflex is my friend. I do take very good care of the old girl. Cheers, Paul, Laval, Qc.
Excellent systems and kits.
Loads of good tips there, thank you.
Thanks - just purchased a boat and your video is really helpful. I hadn't realised there was so much outfitting involved. ATB - Paul
get your J stroke sorted mate and have fun
There isn't that much outfitting needed, this person just chooses it for his needs. Both of those boats are going to be very heavy especially the Esquif prospector. Like I paddle a canoe almost half the weight for the same size. But I can't go through rapids the same. What a light boat can do is portage very comfortably. There's a big difference portaging a heavy canoe or kayak 100m around rapids and waterfalls vs 1km between lakes.
The floatation he adds is usually unnecessary, usually reserved for rough water. And all the lines he attaches are somewhat over preparation, kind of a Swiss army knife philosophy, a tool of everything always.
Your outfitting should reflect what you're doing with your canoe. Talk to local paddlers for local advice on local waters.
Great info on the setup of your dry bag. Using it as a rescue couter-balance is a great idea. I pull a loop through my rear carrying hand that is long enough to go about 6" under the water to use as a step to get back in.
Lovely explanation. Excellent use of knots. Your bowline, however, is technically a "cowboy bowline," which is fine. But in a proper bowline the tail will end inside of the loop, not on the outside. It depends on which side you "poke the end through." Yet, your method is more versatile because you can easily adjust the size of the loop, as you demonstrated.
Thanks for the info, it’s good to know about the variations
Well done...Thankyou! Bowline demo is terrific.
bloody excellent set up video. not just what but why. nice
Great video Gary, looking forward to seeing more
WOW - great information, especially 10:30 on.
Love that esquif,
great tips, thanks for sharing
As time goes on things will probably adapt and change on what I do, and boat development
Excellent information, thank you!! ;)
Great video. Curious about the types of rescue/ floatable ropes you’ve used. Looking to add these to my canoe. Great advice. Cheers from the other side of the pond.
Hi, I have used throw lines cut up 20m bags ect, normally have palm equipment which have a 1000kg rating and float well
You might want to replace that red and white climbing sling. The white fibers are Spectra, which loose a significant amount of their strength when wet. Just a thought.
Thanks for the info, good consideration
Shout out for esquif prospectuer 16s.
Love mine
Question for you about your floatation. The idea of having a canoe without built-in flotation is a foreign concept here in the US. What do you see as the advantages of having a canoe that requires air bags as flotation? For example, I own Wenonah and Nova Craft canoes made in the US and Canada, respectively, and both have built-in air chambers so I don't have to use air bags.
All depends on what you are doing with the boat, and how much buoyancy you need and consideration of weight, lots of our awards require a self rescue of flipping a canoe in the water, the bigger the bags the less water is in the boat when climbing back in, also displaces water in a white water environment ie pins ect.
However if you’re using your boat for more expedition you might not want the airbag taking up space so again I just depends on the type of usage that you use your boat for.
What noise are in the background!? Are these your knees? 😉
Great video, keep them coming. Which construction type did you go for on the Afon? How do you find it handles on flat water? I'm looking to buy a smaller canoe that will do everything, I know there is always a compromise, but something that will handle river G1/2 water, a bit of sailing and some flat water Lochs too. cheers Richard
Hi Richard I ve got the corelite one which is 39kg it’s pretty heavy but ok on the water,
It doesn’t track that well compared to prosecutor, but it’s ok, it’s better on the more waves lager grade rivers.
It’s very forgiving and stable but does take some power to get it going, I think there maybe a smaller Afon on the cards, I think the tri lite one is worth checking out. It’s always the case of Try before you buy, not sure where your based but Devon welcome to try mine or N wales rich at TNR would do the same.
I would look at other options if you manly open water hope that helps
@@inspiringadventure8783 Thanks Gary for the advice and reply. Its a pity I'm at the other side of the country in Aberdeen, Scotland or I would have taken you up on the offer. Cheers for that. As you say, try the boats out and see which one I like the most before parting with any cash. Canoe reviews are few and far between in RUclips which I'm surprised at. Anyway keep the videos coming there are very good. All the best, cheers Richard
Esquif prospector 16' is probably the most Do everything boat ever made. I don't know if I'd call it small though, when picking smaller boats than that narrower is faster and tracks better, otherwise full width boats are slugs, good for fishing but little else, very inefficient to paddle long distance.
Generally 17' is the magic number for full sized canoe, but hard to solo, 16' is the ultimate hybrid to have a boat that can both solo and tandem.
Goodness that's already a heavy Esquif canoe to start with, and you add even more weight, I'm thinking at least 80lbs. I'm guessing your routes don't portage much like my Canadian waterway.
Yeah it’s not super light, but all depends on what you are doing, if I was doing a lot more portaging without a trolley I would shave a much weight as I can of the kit and outfitting and consider a different boat, but most of its work is not to far from good access ect
@@inspiringadventure8783 trolly, no thank you, too much kit, and never a guarantee the path will accommodate. Lots of exposed bedrock where our best canoeing is. And the longer portages keep the silly kayakers away.
Hi Paul, I see your selling (or have sold) an Afon. Just wondered why you’re selling this canoe on?
I needed to sell some boats, I still think the esquiff prosper 16 is the best boat for all the things I do.
Thanks. picked up some really good tips here. Can I ask where you got the black thick kneeling matt. Also what glue did you use for sticking it down?
Scott Thomson, I got the foam from ASwatersports in Exeter, but it was a random find out back, I am sure there are Close cell foam companies on amazon
I used evo stick both sides and cleaned the boat with meths And left it with weight on the mat for a few days it’s still good 4 years on I think the matting is 4cm thick and is worth it
@@inspiringadventure8783 Many Thanks
Hello Garry,
What have you used as tubes for your poles?
All the best
George
Hi George I used plastic wast pipe from a DIY store, they come in different diameters so check own pole size, length is about 80 cm but
It just helps the rubbing on the air bag
Cheers
Gary
Thank you Sir.
if you use any internal woodwork as an anchor point to unpin your canoe, it will tear it all out. i promise. ask me how i know.
Yep totally agree, it would be a last choice if nothing else was an option
hi , i noticing on your blue venture that your seating has adjustable brackets for height
where can these adjustable brackets be purchased
HI these came with the boat, but venture may sell them separate
Depending on what type of seat you have, in a gunnel hung seat you can get a different sizes spacer to raise the seat, any hand carpenter could knock out a set in no time. You would need another spacer below the seat too or get a shorter bolt. Though this isn't a quick change system, but not too much work if doing a long trip.
If you have rivet mounted seats like my Souris River Quetico, you could add shims to raise the seat but would definitely need different fastening hardware. Lowering for such a setup would be more difficult though.
It looks like a decent video. Can't make out what your saying.
Your audio sucks mate! wind noise, mic too far from you 30 seconds in and I've lost interest sorry, looks like your video would have been great BUT!
Yeah I know, hopefully new tech will sort that out, Thanks