Build yourself a solid road bike this year

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @KNURKonesur
    @KNURKonesur 10 месяцев назад +99

    Hope this becomes a series of videos and we get a "Build yourself a solid bikepacking bike this year" some way along the line :D Great stuff as always Paul!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +15

      If we find one, we will defo do it.

    • @ronniedan1044
      @ronniedan1044 10 месяцев назад +3

      Awesome vid! A bit of an AL fanboy myself and lasting after one of these for some time. Been trying to sell one of my carbon bikes/frames to fund this endeavor. Anyone up for an as new 2021 Lapierre SL 6 frame?! Help this poor boy get his white AL Emonda frame. It’s an emergency!

    • @romanpramuka2703
      @romanpramuka2703 10 месяцев назад +2

      You can't build yourself a bike, because you don't have such an expensive BB tool. Shame from Trek.

    • @Fastfreddyii
      @Fastfreddyii 10 месяцев назад

      @@romanpramuka2703 I'm sure Mapdec would tidy up a frame using that tool for their usual hourly rate, if asked.

    • @hendrixinfinity3992
      @hendrixinfinity3992 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mapdec Sonder frontier

  • @dubistweltmeister5
    @dubistweltmeister5 10 месяцев назад +23

    I work as a mechanic in a bike shop myself and couldn't agree more, we bought this exact palmares frame and kitted it out with 105 and some stock aeolus wheels, the amount of compliments we got on the bike was incredible haha

    • @JimS870
      @JimS870 4 месяца назад

      How much more does it cost vs buying a complete bike?

  • @pmckeown38
    @pmckeown38 10 месяцев назад +52

    Crazy that you have to face anything, the factory should be doing this surely.

    • @Alan-75
      @Alan-75 9 месяцев назад +17

      Yeh £1000 just for a frame and it needs facing. That's just poor, it should be perfect from the factory at that price.

    • @Pleasestopthat
      @Pleasestopthat 8 месяцев назад

      Facing the bottom bracket doesn’t make any difference to functionality or appearance. It’s getting covered by the bb anyway.

    • @diehardbikes
      @diehardbikes 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Pleasestopthat it actually CAN make a difference, if there is any uneven surface, that can cause creaking, it can cause issues with tightening, it can cause rotational problems(alignment issues), there's lots of problems an uneven or unfaced bb can cause.

  • @lizhengzhang
    @lizhengzhang 10 месяцев назад +7

    just came back from a ride, shower, took in some food and recover a bit in front of youtube, what a beautiful video, somehow really find it satisfying that everything executed professionally on the build, so much enjoyable to watch. well done.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Nice. 👍. Thank you.

  • @nascarisawesome5018
    @nascarisawesome5018 10 месяцев назад +20

    I work for Trek and the lifetime guarantee is true! I've seen warranties on cheap cruiser bike from 15 ears ago and old carbon road bike also (just to name a few). Trek is all about good customer experience, which I was skeptical of when I worked in other shops, but it really is true.

    • @KU-mg9el
      @KU-mg9el 8 месяцев назад

      Lies

    • @diehardbikes
      @diehardbikes 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@KU-mg9el they aren't lies. I've had a warranty processed. My 2021 Trek Boone frame had a delaminated BB. Get a brand new Boone from 2023. Also, I've had friends get warranties processed. Sometimes, even if the damage was caused accidentally by you, Trek still offers you a discount on a completely new bike or frame. And a heavy discount at that.

    • @youvebeenmilked2893
      @youvebeenmilked2893 4 месяца назад

      Which trek shop do you work at? Mine did warranties pretty nicely too

  • @andrewpeterson5882
    @andrewpeterson5882 28 дней назад

    Really really nice video and bike. Like others have said, this is a super realistic and attainable bike for most of us and it's the stuff we all want to see more of. Doesn't induce fomo but reassures that you can still get a nice setup for totally reasonable money.

  • @byc1013
    @byc1013 10 месяцев назад +7

    T47 as you said makes sense (especially for ALU frames) because you need the space for the welding and material of the tubes. With BSA you're taking a pretty small shell that came from the steel days of skinny tubes and welds to larger tubing. T47 also gives you more space for spindle choices

  • @stevenbell482
    @stevenbell482 10 месяцев назад +9

    Nice chat, and what a great build.
    thanks for taking us along!
    Love

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @moobaz8675
    @moobaz8675 10 месяцев назад +3

    Cracking looking bike. It’s bikes like this that bring reality back to cycling.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. That’s a very true statement. Wish I had thought of that.

  • @neilashton9459
    @neilashton9459 10 месяцев назад +3

    I saw that on the Trek website and was intrigued. Love the color and T47, and price is very reasonable. Glad to see it stands up to professional examination attention.

  • @greghart6310
    @greghart6310 10 месяцев назад +5

    Right! Im hoping to build one of these sometime later in the year (cash flow pending) and you guys are now IT for helping with the initial prep and routing.

  • @jonburnell532
    @jonburnell532 10 месяцев назад +6

    Nice to see a frame with plenty of colour on it. Looks lovely. My brother has the last gen Emonda ALR in flip purple, it's a really good frame. He loves riding it and it hasn't creaked or posed any issues in 4 years.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Very nice!

  • @alanchase6426
    @alanchase6426 2 месяца назад

    Well it’s taken six months of saving my pension money but it’s finally on the road. 1x11 GRX mechanical, DTSwiss wheels and cheep carbon gravel bars and seat post. But it rides lovely. Thank Paul and Jake for putting this together and inspiring me.
    Many more projects like this please. Take care you all.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 месяца назад

      Enjoy. 👍

  • @martincoenen2
    @martincoenen2 10 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks to Paul's opinions and experience I just have build myself a time adhx 45 , very very thankfull ! ☺️

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Nice ride.

  • @alexthomas7935
    @alexthomas7935 10 месяцев назад +2

    That paint job was so sick! Perfect match for they’re triple X LTD road shoes

  • @garyharmon5386
    @garyharmon5386 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great video. I have a 2019 Emonda ALR and I love it. SRAM components and mechanical brakes with carbon Aeolus wheels . It’s also a size small. It is super lightweight.

  • @dylangrantz8124
    @dylangrantz8124 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can't agree more. Not a trek fan for years but saw one out on a ride and was really impressed.

  • @KikouLOL6702
    @KikouLOL6702 7 месяцев назад +1

    I built myself a gravel race bike/winter road bike based on the trek Crocket as a frame set. Got myself 9velo carbon wheels, sram gx eagle from last generation, cheap handlebar, stem, seatpost. I got myself a gravel race bike + everyday road bike for 3000Euro. Everything new.

  • @comtruise9779
    @comtruise9779 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Kinesis RTD is another really good quality, good value aluminum frame to consider with proper endurance features like a slack HT that is completely stable, and big tire clearance. Only issue I had was the same issue the Trek had with the bottom bracket not being faced.

  • @martinbichler7089
    @martinbichler7089 10 месяцев назад +3

    Back in the nineties when Principia frames were hot, we had to work on bottom bracket and headset areas in the bikeshop. Sad to see this is still the case, 30 years later. You would think, that getting these areas perfect on an aluminum frame does not take too much effort - so why does such a frame not come in perfect condition 🤷‍♂️

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Still reliant on dealers.

    • @martinbichler7089
      @martinbichler7089 10 месяцев назад +1

      Well, if every dealer were like you... unfortunately not every dealer is. And what about private people that want to build, they'd expect a ready to build frame delivered to their door...

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@martinbichler7089 yes. In this case it was Triton Cycles. They should have checked it, but they will be responsible for fixing it if someone is smart enough to return it. I hope we are helping people with those decisions.

  • @jacobrich7785
    @jacobrich7785 9 месяцев назад

    So nice to see people finally building and reviewing these properly

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад

      Alu bikes never get enough attention

  • @acckids
    @acckids 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was in a Trek store 2 weeks ago and saw the ALR 5 in black. I was surprised the top headset was exposed since the top cap didn’t cover it. I then looked on their website to see if the issue was related to only the bike I saw but their website showed the upper silver headset sticking above the head tube. It was disappointing for a $2300 usd bike. …… thanks for video. Always enjoyable

  • @bubby372
    @bubby372 10 месяцев назад +1

    Recently did the exact same thing with that frame(in black) as my "second" bike. Added a set of Bontrager 37mm carbon wheels with Pirelli 28mm tan walls along with an RSL carbon seatpost and saddle. Shimano 105 11 speed mechanical.The ride is amazing for well under $4K.

  • @kylixchi
    @kylixchi 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video, like seeing a great price frame, quality and build. Working all the cables in the headtube, looked like you managed to sort it out neatly. Thanks!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks 👍

  • @adriansmith5446
    @adriansmith5446 10 месяцев назад +1

    Built up a CAAD10, back in 2013. Used it to pull an xtrawheel, on a 5 week European adventure, did the Raid Alpine on it, covered circa 30-40k miles, in all weathers(inc Scottish Winters) and it's never failed to put a smile on my face. Talk about a bike being greater than the sum of it's parts.... I won't mention the BB30 standard, however! 😄

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      The black anodised CAAD10 was amazing. They shouldn’t have bothered with the 12.

  • @531c
    @531c 10 месяцев назад +3

    Nice build and exemplary attention to detail. Worst frame i ever had was an aluminium 2019 Cube gravel frame. Only came to light with a rear puncture. Struggled to remove thru axle. Fixed puncture then spent 30 minutes trying to align thruaxle. I had to lean on the bike laid flat to distort it to get it to thread in. Bought a 2021 Genesis CDF frameset and built my gravel TANK.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      All probably caused by a blob of paint behind the mech hanger that prevents axle alignment.

  • @DaveCM
    @DaveCM 9 месяцев назад +1

    A couple of years ago, my brother bought that frame in black. The disc brake mounts were misaligned. So, they got a different frame sent in and it was the exact same way. Apparently the same person made both frames. LOL! They ended up having to modify the mounts so the disc caliper would align properly. He liked the frame pretty well.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад +1

      It happens. Most bike shops should be able to fix it.

  • @owensnicholas
    @owensnicholas 10 месяцев назад +1

    Trek have long made solid aluminum frames. I have a bonded aluminum Trek I bought in the early 90s. It doesn’t have any original parts on it, but I still use the frame on my trainer, and I ride it a few thousand miles a year.

  • @mtbtomo
    @mtbtomo 10 месяцев назад +5

    I had the first Trek Emonda ALR, great cheap, no fuss bike. Also as light as the lower end carbon Emondas.
    I just dont know why its acceptable to need to face bb shells or sort other minor defects on factory fresh frames nowadays. £1k and they dont finish the product properly 🤔😤. Seems to be the norm regardless of brand and everyone talks about it as though its acceptable....

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +3

      It’s mad that brands are still not ready to fully sell direct to consumer. Frames are usually made to go to bike shops to be built. That’s why we have all those tools.

    • @tim2961
      @tim2961 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Mapdec but not always bike shops know about such details, unfortunately

  • @CarlHicks-z8f
    @CarlHicks-z8f 10 месяцев назад

    I’ve been riding this frame for about 6 months and love.

  • @kinghadu9611
    @kinghadu9611 9 месяцев назад +2

    I switched over to gates carbon belt drive roadbike now and the only way I could see myself going back to chain is with a wireless Di2 105 or something, I absolutely HATE the fact that cables require maintenance, replacement and adjusting so much times, I hate cleaning chains aswell and the short life that comes with it, however waxing is always a good choice to drastically increase the length of your drive train.
    But noway I am gonna touch mechanical groupsets now

  • @laurencewarren-west7493
    @laurencewarren-west7493 10 месяцев назад +3

    Having to face your own bottom bracket due to paint and welding inaccuracies is wild

  • @laurencewarren-west7493
    @laurencewarren-west7493 Месяц назад +1

    Did you find a way to seal off the headset a bit more from the elements?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Месяц назад

      Sadly not. If you try to plug it, you just restrict steering.

  • @jamessankey01
    @jamessankey01 10 месяцев назад +1

    That was great content, thanks. I ride a trek alr5 checkpoint for a few years, and other than the pressfit bb, I loved it. I sold it for a sl7 checkpoint, which I love, but in comparison, it does highlight just how good the alr5 is.

  • @robertj625able
    @robertj625able 10 месяцев назад

    Very watchable, well done. Ally frames are often overlooked but good design shines through

  • @stephenbarnes5850
    @stephenbarnes5850 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video they just keep getting better and better appreciate all your hard work keep them coming

  • @macanbhaird1966
    @macanbhaird1966 5 месяцев назад

    Great work! Really enjoy what you are doing.

  • @EverythingsFine82
    @EverythingsFine82 7 месяцев назад

    I built up an Emonda ALR frameset a couple of years ago. They're a good frameset at a low price. Highly recommend.

  • @Swoop10
    @Swoop10 10 месяцев назад +3

    You should do an opinion video to cycling weekly "ALR superbike" build and the 5 bad points of the bike video. 👍

  • @HarishChouhan
    @HarishChouhan 10 месяцев назад

    I have the older 2021 model of Trek Emonda. I upgraded from Tiagra to Ultegra and got DT Swiss G1800 wheels setup with GP 5000 STR 30mm tires (even though Trek says 28mm max) and the bike is comfy even on bad roads.

  • @FGIRAFFE
    @FGIRAFFE 10 месяцев назад

    That's my bike!!! Very happy to have it explained to me. I have the corral version of last year. I really like to see your young and eager colleague. Also I'm always impressed to see you redo the threading for the bottom brackets. I Hope it is not really necessary. I feel it should be the constructor's responsibility to ensure this threading is ok. So finally it's the youngster choice for the emonda alr 5 that prevailed. Is he the same guy who once stayed UP the whole night working on a new super dooper 360 dégrees bar spin breaks and jumped on the walls in the backyard a few months ago after putting loads of olive oil in them? Thanks for the video. It's a thrill to see my frame explained to me by top mechanics. I put ffwd ryott 33 wheels based on your advice. I feel like a Big shot now with m'y top wheels on my aluminium bike. (Saved money on the frame, invested on the wheels) Yeap very happy. Thanks for the video. (I would have liké to see you groupset choice more. Thanks mechanicail 105 for the people or somerhing else? Thanks

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Different Jake. This is cyclocross animal. Other Jake with the bar spins just turned pro and signed with GT

  • @diehardbikes
    @diehardbikes 7 месяцев назад

    I loved this frame ever since it came out. Wish i had one. Trek lover here. If not for the fact that i race at the top level, i might own one of these instead. But my SLR will do. Maybe my next commuter will be either one of these or that new Checkpoint ALR AXS......

  • @stevebassett8944
    @stevebassett8944 10 месяцев назад +4

    I did build the Emonda ALR frameset up last year. Put on 105 Di2. Also used a carbon seat post and that paired with carbon steerer provides nice ride. I installed good carbon wheelset with GP5000's. So, all that said, the bike is super, the ride quality and responsiveness is super. It's a solid bike. I have great confidence when riding up in the mountains.

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki 10 месяцев назад +2

      Out of curiosity. How much did you put into the build? Dont need to know the exact figure but a rough ball park figure is fine so I have some sort of idea for budgeting purposes.

    • @stevebassett8944
      @stevebassett8944 10 месяцев назад

      Hey @@Rose.Of.Hizaki ball park $5500 (CDN). That includes bike shop build. Totally worth it. All parts are new and sized and spec'd the way I wanted (all premium, might as well do it right) not what I would have gotten if I got the off the shelf bike. It is a lot of money, but I purchased the different parts over a year so not so much of sticker shock. Hope this gives you an idea, and good luck if you do go ahead. One word though, get all your parts at a reputable bike dealer/shop, stay away from getting stuff on-line (you don't know what you are getting there, and safety is paramount).

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 10 месяцев назад

      I'm spending £6k-9k as two sets of wheels I'm building and the new SRAM red axs so be about 5 years but for a more durable and aero bike than a carbon frame, with bell, lights, head unit be 7.3kg

  • @Normally_aspirated
    @Normally_aspirated 9 месяцев назад +1

    Also that colorway is fire

  • @merckxy54
    @merckxy54 10 месяцев назад +4

    Nice looking bike, great build and all in a fairly cheap bike!

  • @jauxed
    @jauxed 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have an Trek ALR 6 (2018), for daily commute yes but it was beaten by my Velo Build carbon frameset and it was more comfortable...not to mention stiffer bb.

  • @wearejames1
    @wearejames1 10 месяцев назад +4

    If that is a new frame, why would you have to face the bottom bracket???
    That cable routing on the headset looks like it would let a huge amount of rain and dirt in, not sure how long the bearing will last with that design🙁

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 10 месяцев назад

      I got Enduro stainless so my headset bearing should last
      The facing is depending on brake mounts, bottom bracket and head tube sometimes need facing so surface is clean and parallel to run that bit nicer (my bottom bracket on my frame has a tad of paint on it but unsure if get someone to face it as not know who has T47 and cost few hundred to buy one)

  • @gerrymcbride6429
    @gerrymcbride6429 8 месяцев назад

    Just bought the Palmeres frame to build up an Ultegra r8000 bike to use up all of the surplus parts that I have hanging around. The first time I saw the paint job I knew I had to have it.

  • @rosomak8244
    @rosomak8244 3 месяца назад

    The front hanger is bolted on to provide a predetermined failure point, which will allow for an easy fix if something goes wrong, because the bolt will fail without destroying the actual frame.

  • @matthewlewis2072
    @matthewlewis2072 10 месяцев назад +12

    Love watching you build, great attention to detail. But I could go the rest of my life without hearing that "music" and not miss it

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +4

      It’s ok we change it for every video. What’s your music vibe. I’ll put it in the next one for you.

  • @georgefarrowgreen01
    @georgefarrowgreen01 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for taping the steerer 😂

  • @HarishChouhan
    @HarishChouhan 2 месяца назад +1

    My Trek Emonda ALR 2021, bought in 2021, had paint defect at the time of buying. I realized it after I bought it from Trek shop, flew to my city and opened the box. They said it's just paint issue and gave me 150$ voucher to buy from the shop. Anyways, the paint kept on coming off especially below the BB area, and now when I striped the bike of all the parts notice deep corrosion in Aluminium. I showed it to Trek distributor, Trek online support all said not an issue (no warranty for it) and then it's paint issue not corrosion. Anyways, I gave up as it;s my old frame and got it repainted.
    I'm done with big brands which I earlier assumed would be good on warranty. While I still love this frame, won't be buying from Trek again.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 месяца назад

      Quite a lot of brands are putting a paint exclusion in. It’s a really time consuming fix. They just didn’t do their surface prep well enough.

  • @neilplatt1111
    @neilplatt1111 9 месяцев назад

    First tune in,loved it - very professional craftsmen 🎉

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад

      Welcome. 🤗

  • @two-eyedRoy
    @two-eyedRoy 9 месяцев назад

    Ooh, that bolt up layout for the derailleur hanger is smart!
    I've a CANYON Endurace AL 7, popped a hanger in the first 5 rides. Whilst I like the countersunk heads for accuracy of holding the hanger my machinist mind thought straight away about that there's nothing stopping stripped and mangled threads, and welding means deformation and further finessing OR holding a tolerance that really isn't in purview of an LBS.
    thos though... TREK, I like.

  • @luvtheceltics
    @luvtheceltics 10 месяцев назад

    Love your style - very informative and well paced

  • @scottwatson7844
    @scottwatson7844 9 месяцев назад

    Lovely looking frame that.

  • @danish_watts
    @danish_watts 10 месяцев назад

    Yo BikeMec John here - I opted for this frame over the carbon this year, kitted out with sram force and some nice dt swiss carbon wheels, it rides excellent and I’m very pleased with it - as you mentioned like a “soft” carbon! I also had to face the non drive side and I just used some thick ass military grease on the headset gap

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Nice. 👍

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 9 месяцев назад

    Love. Love. Love. ALR. Also have the SLR Emonda. However the bottle bosses rusted in and worrried front mech hanger rivets about to go. Winter bike 5 years in

  • @aldrinclementina4297
    @aldrinclementina4297 10 месяцев назад +1

    This video made me subscribe to this channel. 🤣. This is my story. We don't have seasons where I live. But we do have rainy days that starts in October till December. I did build a Aluminum rim brake road bike for those days( Concorde Mistral 340), to spare my Carbon all day road bike (BIanchi 928L). But I was looking for something more modern to build on a budget to use during this period. Looking forward also to go for a more modern road race bike.
    Thanks for sharing. Nice build.

  • @MediumHalf
    @MediumHalf 10 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe my favorite color scheme on a Trek

  • @318ishonk
    @318ishonk 10 месяцев назад

    I have this frame in 56 and it's slightly lighter than a (Chinese, non-branded) endurance carbon frame of the same size I had before.
    Stiff and twitchy like a teenager on Friday night though. Good for racing, less so for British roads. Anyway, I run it with Vittoria Corsa Pro TLR 32mm tyres and that combination runs light, fast and comfortable.

    • @Stefanosinf
      @Stefanosinf 9 месяцев назад

      It is twitchy... i'm having issues when no handed...

  • @andrewpescodd5919
    @andrewpescodd5919 10 месяцев назад

    Really glad you’ve done this , I have ordered the exact same frame on C2W and took you advice on the wheels section on you last pice and ordered some venn 40 tcd wheels but I’ve decided to use a SRAM rival groupset running a 46/33 and 10/36 combo . First time I’ve specified bike to my own requirements since the early 90’s and time to retire the 10 year old giant defy to the turbo

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Oh. Nice 👌 congrats on the new ride.

  • @chrism5433
    @chrism5433 10 месяцев назад

    I just bought the 23 trek emonda alr5. Besides the stock tires ( which are pretty reliable) some good tires and tubes for summer. the bike is really fun

    • @Stefanosinf
      @Stefanosinf 9 месяцев назад

      You can improve it a lot by upgrading the parts!

  • @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well
    @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well 10 месяцев назад +1

    U need to check out the new 2024 Merida Silex alu frames for the gravel guys. Amaazing frame for the money!
    As for the trek… still can’t beat the old first gen rim braked emonda alr frames!

  • @philipsiebenhaar1674
    @philipsiebenhaar1674 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have that frame and it’s beautiful

  • @jrh1704
    @jrh1704 10 месяцев назад

    I too would like to see a budget build series where local customers provide an affordable frame for you guys to assemble. Great stuff!
    I also wish more companies offered their aluminum frame-sets for sale only. Hard to find frame-sets here in the states, it seems as though they want you to buy the whole bike. Caad and Allez/ Allez Sprint frame-sets are essentially unavailable everywhere, even at local bike shops.
    Many of my local big brand bike shops (Trek Stores, Bike Mart, etc don't even have Caads or Allez sprint (full bikes assembled) in stock for you to look at or sit on. What are you supposed to do, have them order something without getting the chance to see it in person first? Crazy

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Great suggestion!

  • @pulser955
    @pulser955 10 месяцев назад

    I have a 105 11sp group that needs a frame. I’m seriously considering this frame. I think the only thing that concerns me is the cable routing through the headset. The rear shifter on 11sp tends to eat inner cables. When I was using this group on a gravel bike I was replacing the inner cables often and the outer probably 2 times a year. You can still get some of the cheap Chinese carbon frames without head set cable routing. But I do like trek’s warranty. I have 2 Trek mountain bikes so I do like the brand.

  • @malcontent_1
    @malcontent_1 8 месяцев назад

    Gorgeous bike in a material and level of quality that I covet

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 10 месяцев назад

    I see Nicolai Nucleon had T47 too. But with Nicolai no facing and tapping is needed. At least my G1 was superbly done. Headset was not too easy to press, nor a struggle, felt just right. Zero issues installing BB and brake.Mine is Raw so no paint job to judge. I got Chris king 30mm BB, and their headset too. No issues so far as long as I don't overgrease the BB, if I do seal pops off, and grease comes out, but grease came out with factory grease too and in rainy rides especially made a mess. But still running smooth. But seeing a trek will probably always make me concerned. I hope they sorted out their assembly, manufacturing issues, failures. But this frame set you show does not look that bad, but not a fan of internal routing, and especially trough the headset. But no surprise the frame had pain on BB shell, at least it was not banged up too.

  • @DR_1_1
    @DR_1_1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can anyone tell why the left chainstay is almost always cut in the middle, then welded back together?
    2:48 just left of the brake mounts.

  • @JM...
    @JM... 10 месяцев назад +3

    Trek website says tolerance is 28, you talk 32, would 35 fit?

  • @wayneclement7201
    @wayneclement7201 8 месяцев назад

    Currently converting my alloy Hybrid into a gravel bike, comfy, relaxed!

  • @truthseeker8483
    @truthseeker8483 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why isn't the Bottom Bracket already faced from the factory???

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Dealership QC. They don’t expect non bike shops to build frames.

    • @jk-qe3jj
      @jk-qe3jj 7 месяцев назад

      @@Mapdec Even so, it would surely be more efficient to do it in the factory. For one thing, your time probably costs several times as much as that of some worker in a Chinese factory.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  7 месяцев назад

      @@jk-qe3jj and that’s why the factory don’t do it. Costs driven down and QC gets skipped.

  • @andrew6889-p5c
    @andrew6889-p5c 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is the move to wide tries exactly the change that aluminum frames needed to make a comeback. Let the tire handle compliance and the frame provide strength and power transfer. The argument for carbon over aluminum gets a lot harder to make especially if the price difference is so striking.

  • @stealthswim223
    @stealthswim223 2 месяца назад +1

    I am saving up for a emonda al. I kinda view the aluminum bikes like the two strokes of the cycling world. All you guys can pay 6-16k for a carbon race bike, I’ll get a more durable bike that is waaaay cheaper for only slightly less performance.

  • @Aeysir
    @Aeysir 10 месяцев назад

    Thing to consider with this frame, you can still pick up a full ALR5 for £1850, so for £850 over the naked frame you get a full 105 setup, spare wheels, bars, BB etc etc. You don't get *that* colour way buuuuuut 😀

  • @marknaylor5814
    @marknaylor5814 7 месяцев назад

    Great video & useful insight. Do you have any idea what the Checkpoint ALR frame is like?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  7 месяцев назад

      I haven't seen one that I remember. sorry

  • @FuchsHorst
    @FuchsHorst 10 месяцев назад

    Nice hardware from Cyclus Tools! Wonder if facing is really an issue with internal bearings.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. That flange with the tool notches must be flush to the frame.

  • @Dravde
    @Dravde 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome channel!
    About a week ago, this exact idea crossed my mind. Don't an have access to Trek Emonda alr frame, but I have an older One Series 1.1 frame... wrong size, unfortunately. Although bike fit got me into a comfy position.
    After 9 years of riding with Claris groupset I decided it was time to upgrade it to 105. Hope it's good for another 10 years of riding.
    ...eventually I'll try to get a correct frameset

    • @Angrybadger70
      @Angrybadger70 5 месяцев назад

      Have done this to my 1.2 frame. Over the years as experience and money as allowed i have added, 11speed 105, dt swiss wheels, deda bars and stem, carbon seat post and fizik carbon saddle. Smooth as silk down the road now!!!
      Less than 1k all up cost and about £1700 to replace like for like.

  • @shauninnc
    @shauninnc 9 месяцев назад

    Nice video fellas. I learned quite a bit.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @guitarguy6561
    @guitarguy6561 8 месяцев назад

    Would you review/take a look at the dengfu carbon frames (E10/E22) models? They are made for the bafang 820 250w motor and seem really value for an emtb. Cheers! Might be good for the series

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  8 месяцев назад

      Unlikely. But interesting idea.

  • @taxi9554
    @taxi9554 10 месяцев назад +1

    Colour is beautiful…unfortunately I have already too many bikes 😂. Aluminium is blocked in my garage by an 2015 Specialized Allez…but the Trek would be Disc replacement, if I would have an excuse 😊

  • @gooeytv1184
    @gooeytv1184 4 месяца назад +1

    Cycling weekly has complaints on its headset and bottom bracket. Is it the same on your frame?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  4 месяца назад +1

      No. Because we fixed it. Like any good shop would.

  • @andrewpintar1620
    @andrewpintar1620 8 месяцев назад

    Can you provide a link to other video you talk about this frame / trek ALR. I've scanned the thumbnails, and its not exactly clear from the headlines / vid tittle. thanks

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  8 месяцев назад

      I think it was in the TCR alternative podcast video.

  • @andrewhayes7055
    @andrewhayes7055 10 месяцев назад +2

    A few years ago you could by a full bike with 105 for the price of that frame.

    • @dan44zzt231
      @dan44zzt231 10 месяцев назад

      I have the older Emonda S4 bike which is carbon and was £999 with 10 speed Tiagra back in 2017. Crazy how much prices have jumped.

  • @celestialemissary4934
    @celestialemissary4934 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have canyon endurace RB alu bike and frame is stiff. I get sore on longer rides

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. That bike is too stiff for what they advertise it’s for.

  • @nickyburnell
    @nickyburnell 9 месяцев назад +1

    A Grand. Mmmm. 1300 quid gets you a complete Canyon and the geometry is very good

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад

      Go for it.

  • @the.communist
    @the.communist 9 месяцев назад +8

    This whole cables through the headset thing is such a fookedup idea.

  • @cosmicphorz7328
    @cosmicphorz7328 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do you think the Trek Checkpoint ALR frame have the same building quality as the shown Emonda?

  • @ya_boi_david
    @ya_boi_david 9 месяцев назад

    Firstly, great video! It's great to see what to look for when getting and building up a frame!
    On that note, I recently looked into carbon fiber seat posts and stumbled onto some discussions on how to install the seat clamp. Some manuals and people suggest that it is best to place the seat clamp so it's slit is opposite of the slit in the frame. Does that really make a difference, especially for carbon fiber frames and carbon seat posts?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад +1

      I would imagine do that would require over tightening the bolt to stop it slipping.

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau 10 месяцев назад

    11:55 that looooooooong bar reach looks very lovely for me to rest my wrists and forearms on 😍

  • @andrewpycroft3046
    @andrewpycroft3046 10 месяцев назад

    What was the final build weight? May want to add this to future builds. 😊

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +2

      Umm. I don’t want to obsess on weight. Ride confidence and utility is much much more important. I really think we need to stop obsessing over weight. It drives people to ride sketchy harsh bikes that handle like vibrating bosu ball.

  • @MediumHalf
    @MediumHalf 10 месяцев назад

    I'd be curious to know your opinion on the Domane ALR frames. I'd expect them to have the same build quality but obviously with a more comfortable geo, but I imagine you see more of them than most.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      The Domane in general is not a bike I really understand the purpose of. It’s an armchair disguised as a bike.

    • @MediumHalf
      @MediumHalf 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mapdec haha right up my alley then

  • @EditioCastigata
    @EditioCastigata 10 месяцев назад +1

    fyi: Al needs about 15 minutes to develop that protective uniform AlO layer. Let it sit, don't grease/touch it for that long.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад

      Good info.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 10 месяцев назад +1

    The riveted front derailleur bracket is only a minor inconvenience, no? Worth mentioning, for sure, but any serious crit racer either has tools or has a mechanic. Drilling out a rivet, and replacing it when needed, is a terribly simple thing.

  • @hmartz
    @hmartz 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video very informative and entertaining. I have a question : What is the final weight of the bike?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  8 месяцев назад

      I don’t know. It’s the least important thing.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 10 месяцев назад

    New tool day... that tool "simultaneously" performs a facing and a tap? Is this a good thing? It seems more error prone to track two critically precise operations and to see if one or the other is going badly.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 месяцев назад +1

      Once the taps are in their job is done and they just provide a very stable guide for the facing tool.

    • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
      @user-cx2bk6pm2f 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mapdec It makes sense. Perfectly good after seeing it in use.

  • @hannahbruni6051
    @hannahbruni6051 8 месяцев назад

    You have any suggestions on MTB frames? I currently have a Giant Stance 2 (2021) but I’ve updated all components (full XTR drivetrain, dropper, new fork, etc). I am looking to buy a new frame and bring my new components over to it. I don’t care if it’s aluminum or carbon. But looking for a good recommendation that doesn’t break the bank (less than $2K USD).

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  8 месяцев назад +1

      Crikey. Bird Aeris 29er

  • @andrewfoster3193
    @andrewfoster3193 10 месяцев назад

    Thankyou for all the time you take ro do your youtubes I do enjoy them very pro If you could do a MOOTS build that would be great and a quick Q, Moots Routt 45 would you go with GRX or Sram Mullet ?

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 10 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome 👍