Imagine pulling up to a group ride in your new EUC basketball, too bad you’ll be left behind basically at the start 😂😂😂 or pulling this wheel out from your backpack 😅😅😅
Mine too. Mostly because of the low weight and good suspension. This new one is a much heavier wheel though, which takes some of the fun out of it. I might as well just reach for one of my heavier wheels. Still waiting for manufacturers to start competing on weight vs performance
Thanks for this first look Jack, but I really, really want a true 16" wheel that slots between the 16X and the S18. As a street rider I prefer cleaner subtle looking machines that aren't so obtrusive especially when bringing them into businesses. Patton is the closest to what I would like, but it is still too large for me to store properly at work.
Would you PLEASE show us a side profile of you standing on the S19, I would love to see the geometry of the pads with someone's leg as reference! Thank you!
That m20 bike is impressive. Is it available for Canada market? I honestly think kingsong is making a mistake with the s19. With no long-range cruiser in the EUC lineup for them, that should be the focus. Or a reveal a s-16 would have been better even. A s18 2.0 isn't the best move imo. And advertising as a commuter with a motor that will devour that poorly sized battery with underwhelming city cruise speeds. And no real rider will accept that pad setup without a custom option. I'm not sure what the market they are going for.
I think newer riders who perhaps might be a bit put off by the mods required on the current crop. It seems like looks are important and the "pads" are more fairings and style than anything else. I think in Asia it will sell while Americans will prefer the S22.
Looking forward to the s19 I gotta have music ,love the integrated bluetooth speakers finally a suspension wheel with music ,as a Buddhist I love the orange color and the integrated power pads !!!!
So why did they exactly removed the USB ports on the s22? I can live without the speakers, but they removed the USB ports and front mudguard. S22 owners got screwed over except for the base for better pads
I just bought one and the manual says Rated Capacity: 115.4Wh(3500mAh) ..not 150Wh! Max speed 15Km Alarm at 5, 8 and 10 Km speed. 2-3 Hour Chargetime @ 50.4V 1A 12Km range also this seems to be the re-branded, fancyer but also capped version of the JYROBALL from 2019 ..maybe they will come out with a S9 PRO next year yeah and it barely fits in a Point65 Bumblebee backpack ..Id not be jumping or riding down stairs with it there much though lol Im thinking using this indoor as introduction to EUC riding
@@BANGbucketHEAD I dont see where there is a lack of function. frankly i dont use power pads on any of my euc's these look much more ergo than the begode ones and better spacing the begode ones and the s22 pads.
@Casey Bretthauer it looks cool but they definitely chose form over function. S22 pads are not all that great either you can take them off and put your own. There is no way to put your own pads on there without covering up the disco lights. And there is no way to adjust it to fit your foot better so that is less function. But as far as the lights go it has the coolest looking lights of any. Euc I've ever seen that's why I got a 16 x because of the lights.
s19 is a hard pass. RGB lights built in to the power pads? what are they thinking. Looks like a toy wheel. Have they learned anything from the king song s22 pads? I guess this is good for a cheap all in one beginner wheel.
Doesn't look like there would be anything mechanical inside the pads, hopefully it will be easy enough to cut them off and have a nice flat surface to work with putting your own pads on. Can't imagine those speakers would survive much of a tumble either.
Not really sure why they thought an integrated fixed position power pard setup was a good idea, given that the market concensus is that stock pads suck.
Hi, the S9 basketball is rated for kids that are up to 60kg. You guys are clearly heavier than that. How safe would it be for adult “kids” like us to ride it? Do you have estimate range? And I assume the tire is solid and more of a wide flat rubber cylinder that wraps around?
@@official.electricdreams no way dude, my mom is 5'1" and aiming for 55kg and she's slowly morphing into a skeleton before we can even hold a funeral. Are your bones made out of styrofoam?
S19 is exactly the wheel I do not want to buy. Fixed pads is pure stupidity, why? Almost every advanced rider has customized power pads and do not care about speakers and color front light. The design is maybe good for some, but not for riders :D. I will buy Begode T4 instead of this every single time!
@@dirt.surfer for people that want a feature packed wheel that is ready to go without any upgrades then sure plus its lighter, cheaper, and smaller (at least in tire diameter) but if you want shear power and the best thing for off road then the s22 pro will probably be better
@@VECTOR_Coasters for only a few hundred you could get a s22.... so why does this exist? Same soft poor rim as the s18 and the numbers are a bad combo. Bad wheel.
@@dirt.surfer s22 weighs more, costs more, is bigger, doesn’t have a speaker and doesn’t have rgb so there are many reasons to get a s19 over an s22 pro but yes the s22 is better for most people’s needs but not every persons needs
@@dirt.surfer also the numbers are insane but just forgot how crazy a 3500w motor is and the sherman s proved that 100v is still great and you can’t call it a bad wheel before its even released lmao
@@curtflirt2 Meh 😕 I mean, it seems they want it to replace 16x, and 16x was/is (depending on the region) 2k USD new. It's obviously targeting ppl who are new into euc, so you can buy it, grab out of the box and you're good to go, fancy looking, sorta "pro pads", etc (but I really like the display tho). I mean, if the price comes down in a year or two it MAY BE(!) decent wheel. But obv we need to wait on conclusions. Anyway, it feels great that companies are experimenting with looks and stuff. Not all experiments are good, but practice makes perfect.
The handle bar seems to be really inconvenient and badly designed.... With my kingsong 16s and 16x I can one handed release trolly handle and push it in to lift or retract to use... With one hand and it's quite easy and doesn't even slow my stride when having to do it. With the s19 it looks like it's 2 hand action always... Very stupid, very inconvenient ....I'm looking for a new wheel but this bad handle design disqualifies the s19.
Id be into the basketball cause it is cool, but pint stats, with the orange color degrading massively on use, and some idiot breaking it thinking it's actually a 🏀. Would be cool if they brought that screen to the pro wth.
If you still have a lot of influence with Kingsong, they badly need a marketing team CHANGE, and most likely an engineering one as well, this wheel literally right now with the current market that these wheels are in Makes no sense whatsoever! This wheel will absolutely flop! A 100Volt wheel with a 1776wh Battery and can only do a low amount of Mileage?? What is going on, who thought that this was a good idea??? I used to really like Kingsong before the S20 Disaster but since then, they've just gotten worse and worse. You can't use your own pads with the way that it's built
This is not a flop at all. It looks like a better alternative to v11/s18, which are the best and lightest comfort commuters at the moment. 60 to 100 kilometers is not a low mileage for such job, at all.
@Laenthal no, ne speaks the truth. Those numbers are bad. I don't mean waaa boo more power or more battery, just a bad inefficient combination. The s22 was and still is a mess, great when it's working but constant non stop issues. Releasing the s19 is not smart when your lineup lacks a lo g range cruiser or maybe a s-16 would make better sense.
@@Laenthal For the price it's going to flop. People are not going to to waste 3000 dollars on a Wheel that is 100 volts and has a 1776wh battery, and that is less powerful than the S22 which is about the same price. Well I surely wouldn't be that foolish anyways.
@@curtflirt2 weight and handling when not riding is paramount to price for city commute. Can't care how cheap an S22 is if it's heavy and can't fit behind a desk.
@@Laenthal the weight generally doesn't factor into the pricing a ton when it comes to an EUC, it about the products that it's built with. What type of battery, bms, materials technology, mosfets, Motor, stuff like that. For Example, Veteran Sherman is Charging 3200 for their new Patton wheel and that's much more expensive than the S22 lol and surely more expensive than the S19, T4, etc.,
I think I saw one years ago that was a gridion football but the circumference was so small it was VERY limited. I remember thinking "Now if they made one as a basketball they may have something worthwhile. " years later..
Imagine pulling up to a group ride in your new EUC basketball, too bad you’ll be left behind basically at the start 😂😂😂 or pulling this wheel out from your backpack 😅😅😅
5miles max speed, that is for to use during breaks or chat time.
So excited for the basketball. Can’t wait to ride it on the next EUC meetup
J'espère que tu pèses moins de 60kg
that thing gets smoked on a onewheel pint meet up
Okay as a Master Owner, I'll admit it, the basketball EUC is cute. Very smart idea
A quickly removable battery, yay! Now, we need modular/hot-swappable battery packs for EUCs.
KingSong was one of the first companies to do it back in the day, due to safety issues they removed it. Not sure if it’ll come back
Yes! Gives us more flight or shipping options as well
We were all very curious about these, so thanks for the updates, Jack 👍🏾
I've had bigger wheels and I've had smaller wheels but the S18 is probably my favorite wheel of all time. Looking forward to these upgrades.
Mine too. Mostly because of the low weight and good suspension. This new one is a much heavier wheel though, which takes some of the fun out of it. I might as well just reach for one of my heavier wheels. Still waiting for manufacturers to start competing on weight vs performance
I made my s18 1500wh and i still ride it more than my t4.
@@Kay0Bot how did you add more battery on the s18. Any tutorial or link to share ?
@@pierrelhussiez1865 negative, just a self diy
Finally a euc company making products for the masses. Not just euc geeks.
These products actually look like consumer products.
They made a bike too? Impressive. I do want a 70 mph wheel though.
Wow very nice. The basketball haha I liked the expression on your face rofl! Good stuff. Keep up the good work
Thanks for this first look Jack, but I really, really want a true 16" wheel that slots between the 16X and the S18. As a street rider I prefer cleaner subtle looking machines that aren't so obtrusive especially when bringing them into businesses. Patton is the closest to what I would like, but it is still too large for me to store properly at work.
My boy with another banger!
Yeah...love the bike..have you tryed it ?
daaamn look at that! it looks so beautiful! i cant wait to own one of those big bad boys!
For people who want to take their euc on public transport, a basketball is ideal:)
Great video. Nice to see KingSong improving and trying new things.
Awesome
Basketball looks awesome to train newbies
The basketball EUC reminds me of the little ball a.i. things from Gundam, needs a repaint! 😅
Would you PLEASE show us a side profile of you standing on the S19, I would love to see the geometry of the pads with someone's leg as reference!
Thank you!
Double this!
Please add some photos and videos, your thoughts and experience
the bike looks amazing
Bowling ball EUC would make more sense.
Fit in those basketball gym bags now that's cool af
I like the lights.
Good way to learn how to ride backwards! Though tyre change will be interesting when you wear out the basketball treads! Haha
Thanks how much is the basketball? Can you tell them to make an all white or all black version? I’m interested in it if the price is right.
Спасибо, познавательно. С19 заинтересовал. Наверное буду участвовать в предзаказе, когда откроется.
Love ❤ Kingsong S19 needs to get one when become available in the market (I own S18) 😅😊
Can't wait ❤😊
That m20 bike is impressive. Is it available for Canada market? I honestly think kingsong is making a mistake with the s19. With no long-range cruiser in the EUC lineup for them, that should be the focus. Or a reveal a s-16 would have been better even. A s18 2.0 isn't the best move imo. And advertising as a commuter with a motor that will devour that poorly sized battery with underwhelming city cruise speeds. And no real rider will accept that pad setup without a custom option. I'm not sure what the market they are going for.
Not you obviously :-))
I think newer riders who perhaps might be a bit put off by the mods required on the current crop. It seems like looks are important and the "pads" are more fairings and style than anything else. I think in Asia it will sell while Americans will prefer the S22.
Looking forward to the s19 I gotta have music ,love the integrated bluetooth speakers finally a suspension wheel with music ,as a Buddhist I love the orange color and the integrated power pads !!!!
i would mount some bright as hell lights in that little gap on the front too
So why did they exactly removed the USB ports on the s22? I can live without the speakers, but they removed the USB ports and front mudguard. S22 owners got screwed over except for the base for better pads
The S19 had USB ports, one USB C and a standard one that he plugged the music into
@@gar_ee8884 fixed my comment
The baskenall EUC is reminiscent of the Hiboy A5 Football Hoverboard.
I really did think the basketball was an April Fool’s joke! Will they do a pumpkin for Halloween?
I hope not.
Don’t give them ideas!!
It should be relatively easy to reskin it as not only a pumpkin, but for instance a football.
1000w misses the 750w limit in most areas while not giving enthusiast speed; that's a bit of trouble. Looks good though!
That sucks. Atleast where I live its 1k watts max. Still tok low for real use. Like make a car that only goes 30mph...
I just bought one and the manual says
Rated Capacity: 115.4Wh(3500mAh) ..not 150Wh!
Max speed 15Km
Alarm at 5, 8 and 10 Km speed.
2-3 Hour Chargetime @ 50.4V 1A
12Km range
also this seems to be the re-branded, fancyer but also capped version of the JYROBALL from 2019
..maybe they will come out with a S9 PRO next year
yeah and it barely fits in a Point65 Bumblebee backpack ..Id not be jumping or riding down stairs with it there much though lol
Im thinking using this indoor as introduction to EUC riding
would like to try the kingsong bike
Wonder what the price is going to be on the basketball?
IDK what anyone says this is an AMAZING looking wheel!
I prefer function over form
@@BANGbucketHEAD I dont see where there is a lack of function. frankly i dont use power pads on any of my euc's these look much more ergo than the begode ones and better spacing the begode ones and the s22 pads.
Which one? 😂
@@weberito well both obviously lol But with that low of watts and speed the basketball is basically a gimmick
@Casey Bretthauer it looks cool but they definitely chose form over function. S22 pads are not all that great either you can take them off and put your own. There is no way to put your own pads on there without covering up the disco lights. And there is no way to adjust it to fit your foot better so that is less function. But as far as the lights go it has the coolest looking lights of any. Euc I've ever seen that's why I got a 16 x because of the lights.
the s19 is just an newer year, upgraded s18. I'm almost certain an S20 is in the pipeline and that's the one I'm waiting on
s19 is a hard pass. RGB lights built in to the power pads? what are they thinking. Looks like a toy wheel. Have they learned anything from the king song s22 pads? I guess this is good for a cheap all in one beginner wheel.
Doesn't look like there would be anything mechanical inside the pads, hopefully it will be easy enough to cut them off and have a nice flat surface to work with putting your own pads on. Can't imagine those speakers would survive much of a tumble either.
Not really sure why they thought an integrated fixed position power pard setup was a good idea, given that the market concensus is that stock pads suck.
It might just be me, but I'm really not liking the S19 design. It looks a lot tackier than the S18.
Couldn’t disagree more
I like it...
Great job jack
awww i was hoping for a 16x like bass
Nice for a beginner, too bad I already gave up on kingsong, I got burnt on the s22... wouldn't be back....
what are they smoking over there at Kingsong?
This is the Jyroball !!! I wonder if they bought the rights to this ?
Ok, looks like a few more years to wait for S18 with x1.5 battery. Not x1.5 power, width and weight. Just x1.5 battery.
Now lets hope there will be all black version
Hi, the S9 basketball is rated for kids that are up to 60kg. You guys are clearly heavier than that. How safe would it be for adult “kids” like us to ride it? Do you have estimate range? And I assume the tire is solid and more of a wide flat rubber cylinder that wraps around?
im like 50kg i dont know what you talking about 😂
@@official.electricdreams no way dude, my mom is 5'1" and aiming for 55kg and she's slowly morphing into a skeleton before we can even hold a funeral. Are your bones made out of styrofoam?
Where can we get the basketball euc?
This is the one.😊
Cool beans!!
cool bike
Interesting👍
Suddenly, I got a basketball jones.
S19 is exactly the wheel I do not want to buy. Fixed pads is pure stupidity, why? Almost every advanced rider has customized power pads and do not care about speakers and color front light. The design is maybe good for some, but not for riders :D. I will buy Begode T4 instead of this every single time!
Yes Kingsong, f^ck your stock pads and proprietary foot pedals. Stop c*ck blocking your customers!
Yeah Noone asked or wants this.
And you will burn with her :D
The basketball one better be cheap i want it just for Decoration lol
the s9 is godly and the s19 looks like a more feature packed 100v s22 pro
Lol what!? You think the s19 is a s22 upgrade?
@@dirt.surfer for people that want a feature packed wheel that is ready to go without any upgrades then sure plus its lighter, cheaper, and smaller (at least in tire diameter) but if you want shear power and the best thing for off road then the s22 pro will probably be better
@@VECTOR_Coasters for only a few hundred you could get a s22.... so why does this exist? Same soft poor rim as the s18 and the numbers are a bad combo. Bad wheel.
@@dirt.surfer s22 weighs more, costs more, is bigger, doesn’t have a speaker and doesn’t have rgb so there are many reasons to get a s19 over an s22 pro but yes the s22 is better for most people’s needs but not every persons needs
@@dirt.surfer also the numbers are insane but just forgot how crazy a 3500w motor is and the sherman s proved that 100v is still great and you can’t call it a bad wheel before its even released lmao
Lets see the price, but so far so good
The price for that S19 is 2900, ridiculous
@@curtflirt2 Meh 😕
I mean, it seems they want it to replace 16x, and 16x was/is (depending on the region) 2k USD new.
It's obviously targeting ppl who are new into euc, so you can buy it, grab out of the box and you're good to go, fancy looking, sorta "pro pads", etc (but I really like the display tho).
I mean, if the price comes down in a year or two it MAY BE(!) decent wheel.
But obv we need to wait on conclusions.
Anyway, it feels great that companies are experimenting with looks and stuff. Not all experiments are good, but practice makes perfect.
@@AD4048-r2v they want 2900. I could understand 24, sure or maybe 2500 but 2900?
I’ll take the ball
Tenho s18 vou pegar o s 19 em breve cm música tudo fica mais animado
Putting speakers on these things is the most ridiculous thing ever. To me it seems like extra stuff that can get broken
The handle bar seems to be really inconvenient and badly designed.... With my kingsong 16s and 16x I can one handed release trolly handle and push it in to lift or retract to use... With one hand and it's quite easy and doesn't even slow my stride when having to do it.
With the s19 it looks like it's 2 hand action always... Very stupid, very inconvenient ....I'm looking for a new wheel but this bad handle design disqualifies the s19.
Id be into the basketball cause it is cool, but pint stats, with the orange color degrading massively on use, and some idiot breaking it thinking it's actually a 🏀. Would be cool if they brought that screen to the pro wth.
At 150wH you still can't take it on a flight....
Wouldn't buy S19 just because of pads. Poor choice.
If you still have a lot of influence with Kingsong, they badly need a marketing team CHANGE, and most likely an engineering one as well, this wheel literally right now with the current market that these wheels are in Makes no sense whatsoever! This wheel will absolutely flop! A 100Volt wheel with a 1776wh Battery and can only do a low amount of Mileage?? What is going on, who thought that this was a good idea??? I used to really like Kingsong before the S20 Disaster but since then, they've just gotten worse and worse. You can't use your own pads with the way that it's built
This is not a flop at all. It looks like a better alternative to v11/s18, which are the best and lightest comfort commuters at the moment. 60 to 100 kilometers is not a low mileage for such job, at all.
@Laenthal no, ne speaks the truth. Those numbers are bad. I don't mean waaa boo more power or more battery, just a bad inefficient combination. The s22 was and still is a mess, great when it's working but constant non stop issues. Releasing the s19 is not smart when your lineup lacks a lo g range cruiser or maybe a s-16 would make better sense.
@@Laenthal For the price it's going to flop. People are not going to to waste 3000 dollars on a Wheel that is 100 volts and has a 1776wh battery, and that is less powerful than the S22 which is about the same price. Well I surely wouldn't be that foolish anyways.
@@curtflirt2 weight and handling when not riding is paramount to price for city commute. Can't care how cheap an S22 is if it's heavy and can't fit behind a desk.
@@Laenthal the weight generally doesn't factor into the pricing a ton when it comes to an EUC, it about the products that it's built with. What type of battery, bms, materials technology, mosfets, Motor, stuff like that. For Example, Veteran Sherman is Charging 3200 for their new Patton wheel and that's much more expensive than the S22 lol and surely more expensive than the S19, T4, etc.,
U think that basketball thing is from 3 years ago: ruclips.net/video/ow960jpcorc/видео.html .. maybe KS bought that company or the rights to it?
I think I saw one years ago that was a gridion football but the circumference was so small it was VERY limited. I remember thinking "Now if they made one as a basketball they may have something worthwhile. " years later..
cops cant exactly fine your for riding a basketball
dont think it would go down well in court
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