Overrated: Vintage pedals are way worse

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @heymrguitarman7637
    @heymrguitarman7637 2 дня назад +28

    I laugh when purists say transistor amps are terrible, then they also say things like the Origin effects amp pedals are amazing - despite them being transistor!!

    • @MrBeardsley
      @MrBeardsley 2 дня назад +9

      Tube amp supremacists with solid state “amp in a box” pedals on their boards crack me up.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 дня назад

      @@MrBeardsleyeven my IRX? Its running tubes at full plate voltage. No digitizing

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 дня назад +1

      Stuff like quilter still sucks.
      Friedman put an actual preamp in a pedal. The future is now, and I still get to be a tube snob

    • @MrMystery666
      @MrMystery666 2 дня назад +1

      Tube, transistor, digital, modelling, etc. everything has its place.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 дня назад +1

      @@MrMystery666 yep, tubes belong on stage. Transistors and digital belong in the pawn shop

  • @aluminati9918
    @aluminati9918 2 дня назад +17

    You are missing the third sign simply reading “rated”. 😂

    • @jezmez68
      @jezmez68 2 дня назад +4

      "Just right."

    • @LivingroomGearDemos
      @LivingroomGearDemos  День назад +2

      haha yes, this is a concept I've taken from other youtube channels.

  • @secularspectator
    @secularspectator 2 дня назад +8

    Guitarists are some of the most gullable people...facts lol

  • @mattwesthaver6909
    @mattwesthaver6909 День назад +1

    I largely agree about vintage pedals being overrated. However, some are still unmatched today. My example is the DD2 from the 80s.

  • @MrBeardsley
    @MrBeardsley 2 дня назад +2

    I’m a bass player so I’ve always had a lot of love for solid state amps. One of my all-time favorite “big combos” is the Acoustic 125, it’s a beefy 100+ watt 2x12 with reverb, a graphic EQ and a footswitchable master volume. Obviously it’s an incredible clean amp and pedal platform, but with the master volume engaged you can get a really nice, gritty overdrive reminiscent of BB King’s tone (fun fact, King was a longtime user of the solid state Lab Series amps produced by Gibson and Moog in the late ‘70s/early ‘80s).

  • @mazukakai
    @mazukakai 2 дня назад +2

    Have a Reverend Dirtbike. One pickup. Volume with a treble bleed, tone, and bass contour controls. With those 3 knobs, the amount of flexible tones are shocking.

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords3719 День назад

    I've owned a 1H Gibson for over 20 years. Many hard rock & metal players rarely utilize their neck pickup, and I like to use these guitars to focus and limit my options - like utilizing a P bass.
    The tone benefits imho are having a bunch of wood aroynd the neck joint that's otherwise routed away.
    My Gibsons with one pickup, my original G&L Rampage, my Slick "juniors", all that "this feels like a good one" thing going on.

  • @mynmyself
    @mynmyself 12 часов назад

    Vintage pedals are so pointless... I used to have a nice collection until I started building my own DIY clones and mod versions. I now have all the same circuits but built with proper wiring (you cant imagine how horribly soldered and wired are some old EHX pedals, for example), all inside standard boxes, with regular power and IO connectors with top mounted jacks... You just need to open an old tonebender or even any other non so vintage pedal and just check how sketchy is everything.

  • @embiggens1
    @embiggens1 2 дня назад +1

    Tone voodoo is wild. One pickup sounds better than two because it's not getting the magnetic pull from the other pickup? First time I've heard that one, and I'm dead.

  • @goblina_subpeona
    @goblina_subpeona 2 дня назад +2

    Yeah vintage pedals make me sad. I have a 70’s big muff. The bypass switch breaks quickly and it sounds so horrible bypassed.

    • @LivingroomGearDemos
      @LivingroomGearDemos  2 дня назад

      Yup

    • @pablowentscobar
      @pablowentscobar 2 дня назад

      Yeah man, I understand if people collect vintage pedals because they dig having them, or you're a pedal builder and want to get a look in them, but playing them sucks. New tech is just better for a plethora of reasons.

  • @JimThompson-i3u
    @JimThompson-i3u 2 дня назад +2

    If you've ever built a pedal from a kit it really takes the mystique away from pedals. So many circuits are very similar. What you do have is a nice enclosure, pretty graphics, and a good marketing team...but a very similar circuit under the hood.

  • @shaunmorrison6448
    @shaunmorrison6448 15 часов назад

    Agree about transistor amps. I think people generally think of solid state amps as something to emulate tube amps that you can't afford, but they're better if you embrace their own character.

    • @mistopraro666
      @mistopraro666 7 часов назад

      like the jazz chorus. amazing clean tones AND the built in chorus

  • @jubileedx
    @jubileedx 2 дня назад +6

    I'm confused about your Midi opinion. You just mentioned using it for going between tonal extremes? What about using it for, say, going between banks on a Eventide H9. Or for subtle changes for your Strymon? I mean, it's just a communication protocol.
    Like saying written English is overrated because people use it two write hate mail? :)
    Good entertaining video tho, as always! And I can appreciate your point about it being difficult to learn/master, 100%

  • @joshsparrowchannel
    @joshsparrowchannel 2 дня назад

    i appreciate your input on these matters!

  • @PerpetuallyTiredMusician
    @PerpetuallyTiredMusician День назад

    Can confirm I have inherited several of my fathers effect pedals including a very early fuzz face. The fuzz face for example sounds great but it's falling apart it's something I use for recording and as much as I love fuzz, let's face it, It's not the effect you drag out for every song. Worst pedal my father have handed down to me is his old memory man. That thing has spent more time in repair shops the last 20 years than on a board and it has a terrible noise floor (like a lot of old pedals do).
    Peace and ha det bäst

  • @nunocarmona
    @nunocarmona День назад

    I agree that tubescreamers are Meh in front of a clean amp. But they are awsome in front of other dirt pedals or pushed amps. Especially the ones that need the low frequencies to be tamed.

  • @jezmez68
    @jezmez68 2 дня назад

    A couple of comments; 1) You should make this more like Goldilocks and the three bears: Too hot, Too cold, Just right. Sometimes I feel like something is neither over or underrated, it's just right. 2) Eddie Van Halen played a Junior guitar for a long time. One pickup, one knob. Just right. (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?) So did a bunch of guys in those 80s rock bands with their Charvel/Jackson Junior guitars; 3) Tube amps: Just right; 4) Transistor amps: underrated; I think Brussels - Midi is all right. Lots of things to do right outside that station. Big fan of Belgium here. Ugliest guitar are: a) Hofner Beatle Bass; b) Danelectro longhorn bass; c) Anything with a PRS headstock, but their standard shape makes me want to vomit; d) Anything with an old-style Epiphone headstock.

  • @BockwinkleB
    @BockwinkleB 2 дня назад +2

    Nobody wants old SS amps. You cant even sell them to pawn shops.
    Anybody want a Peavey Musician?

    • @bissemgill475
      @bissemgill475 2 дня назад

      It’s a mix right? People want the old sunn betas so bad that they actually relaunched the line last year

  • @otherw1s3
    @otherw1s3 47 минут назад

    Hey man you should lock down your focus when doing talking heads like this, especially if you're not showing any products that needs close focusing.
    The focus hunting going on in the back was hella distracting when I noticed it, you might have to increase your fstop a lil bit too.
    Fan of your videos in general tho, keep up the good work!

  • @Michel-r6m
    @Michel-r6m 2 дня назад

    Got the DS-1 but rather had bought the SD-1. As for distortion got a ProCo Rat and might add a high gain overdrive (BD-2).
    Have a Boss Dual Cube lx lunchbox amp (stereo outs) as DSL-1 (fx-loop), I like both since I do not need or even want loud amps.
    Surprisingly fun pedal is the Tonex One (comp,gate,reverb a.o.).

  • @ratkopetrovic4959
    @ratkopetrovic4959 2 дня назад +1

    I use tubescreamers for od stacking in pair with others overdrives.

  • @spaulidstate
    @spaulidstate День назад

    Tubescreamers aren’t overrated as long as you keep your addiction hidden like I do.

  • @TVicc
    @TVicc День назад +1

    3:50 "I don't care about vintage pedals... It's different with amps" ISN'T congruent. At all. "Architecture-wise" they are very similar as Josh Scott will tell you... If noise is the problem, just grab your pedal, throw in some batteries and enjoy isolated blissness! Vintage amps will always be noisier. Even if correctly grounded, there's the hum...

  • @johnf.r6658
    @johnf.r6658 2 дня назад

    I have a transistor fender frontman 212r and every RUclipsr says it sucks so much, for me it works, has some really punchy cristal clean tone and I work with a big muff, DS1 and a tube screamer for gain stages of distortion and I get some good sounds out of it all (the dirt channel yes it's bad, I don't touch that )

    • @bcarbs
      @bcarbs 2 дня назад +1

      Totally agree with you. These amps also have onboard spring reverb tanks. With a speaker swap they sound even better.

    • @therealjamesmarchant
      @therealjamesmarchant 2 дня назад +1

      If you ever get the chance to turn it up, they sound great at high volume. Quite in the Joe Walsh Rocky Mountain vibe.

  • @75YBA
    @75YBA 2 дня назад +4

    I need a bridge I can intonate. Those Jr.’s and Specials are garbage. I’m from Kzoo, I know former Gibson and Heritage employees, they’re garbage and need shimming.

    • @mazukakai
      @mazukakai 2 дня назад +1

      Look into the bridge Joe Glaser makes for Jr's. I think it's called the Music City Bridge, or something like that.

  • @RevGerryRM
    @RevGerryRM 2 дня назад

    You are nuts! The Yamaha Pacificas are awesome guitars. They are strats!😠

  • @timnotbrianmay
    @timnotbrianmay День назад

    MIDI should be limited to keyboards!.

  • @henri_.leal68
    @henri_.leal68 День назад

    I hate how purists rant about tube amps sounding better and then use solid state transistors to boost it…

    • @michaelmusterer7066
      @michaelmusterer7066 21 час назад +1

      I’ve known and read about people who prefer tube amps I have never heard anyone rant about them, and why would you hate that, I am sincerely curious

    • @michaelmusterer7066
      @michaelmusterer7066 21 час назад +1

      Can you not afford a tube amp

    • @stevenvandemsky7290
      @stevenvandemsky7290 14 часов назад +1

      Because it‘s the best of both worlds and sounds much better than anything else

  • @Henry-pj1td
    @Henry-pj1td 2 дня назад

    Cheap pedals are criminally underrated, I'm heading right now to buy a memory toy for close to 50 bucks, would it be the end all be all delay? Probably not. Is it a great pedal full of cool sounds that are going to be inspiring? Yes
    People don't hate that pedal based on what it is but on what it isn't, put it in a fancy enclosure and call it "Vintage memory man ispired" and everybody would be paying it's weight in gold

    • @briangarcia8384
      @briangarcia8384 2 дня назад

      Cheap pedals are definitely underrated. To me, finding those hidden gems are a huge part of building your own tone and owning gear in general. One of my favorite pedals is a stupid iset flanger I got for $25. It's set to barely modulate my tone but it has such a unique timbre. I might be on my third one since they break easily, but like vans slip ons, I'll just as easily buy a replacement.

  • @vintagetone22
    @vintagetone22 2 дня назад

    Its like you saying a casio watch is better than a rolex.🤣🤣🤣my friend you play cheap equipment you will sound cheap.very simple.you cant say a chinese les paul made out of cardboard is better than a 59 les paul..sorry noooooooooo.you confuse people.if someone has the money treat themself to the best.i have an ibanez ts808 narrow box 1979 1st year and ive tried all the overdrive pedals on the market and nothing has beated that pedal.also along side my boss od1 from 1978.sir please .🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏