The 802’s a great airplane. A couple of tips I would add for pilots that are transitioning from a 4 or 5 is to be prepared for a heavier stick and slower roll rate. It would be safest to make your turns flat and roll out on track before descending to the target. Rolling out while descending low level could get you into trouble. The turns I’ve described may be a couple of seconds slower but, until you’re really comfortable, I think you’d be a lot safer (I’m really not a fan of the high, hard, slow turns - stall the 8 with a good load and you’re done). I’m not criticizing this guy’s turns (looks like he’s between the two), just saying for new guys, be cautious. Also, if you’re turning with flaps, do not, I repeat, DO NOT retract flaps low level as you’re descending into the field. The sudden sink rate could easily shorten your career. Sometimes a little tidbit of information will sit dormant in the back of your brain until that pucker moment when you need your hands to do something your brain hasn’t thought of yet.
Smooth operator........ It is amazing you can control that aircraft as big and heavy as it is with such ease. Light on the stick and she just goes where you want her to....... Can't beat the power of a Pratt engine.
Full load vids are pretty boring but just for you I will upload one later today with 700 gal spraying a small field surrounded by 100’ tall trees. Unfortunately the video doesn’t do justice for the actual experience of spraying a field like that.
So you went to vista. After that did you pick up a job immediately or did you have to instructor to build hours or what. Where do you go to find jobs? How true is it that the need for dusters is really high? What’s your work season?
I did and yes I did get a job right away but I had been working as a ground man in the industry for 5 years prior and I pretty much got lucky. Vistas helped with insurance and I didnt have to build time. I got in my first ag plane with about 400tt.
The need for experienced applicators is really high, not so much for new applicators. It's always been hard to break in and I dont think that will change. My working season is March-October.
Just met a guy who at 50 something decided to become a pilot and is now in his 4th spraying season. Nothing is impossible, you're just 21 man, you go your whole life in front. If you want it you just have to work at it hard enough, research what it takes to be an ag pilot, make a plan and stick to it.
@@ensayosdeunvagabundo is ther a way to get a loading job in the winter? I want to try loading maybe in Florida to get a Taoist of the industry before I invest in getting flight lessons and all.
@@excellenceinanimation960 no idea what the season is in Florida, I"m up in Canada so the season here is much shorter (June to mid-Sept if you do forestry).
Its a pretty easy transition. There are a few different types of turbines we use (free spinning and direct drive) and they operate a bit differently so I couldn't give any pointers not knowing what you would be flying. Listen closely to the person that is giving you the transition because they are all rigged a little bit differently.
Hi Troy, this gauge shows error when suckback is applied. It reads -15 psi with the pump off and I believe it reads 15 psi low when spraying. I believe we are going to replace the gauge box and/or the pressure sensor at annual.
@@pcohen85 it sounds like a drift issue. hold the dim button when you turn the unit on, it will re-zero the pressure gauge. If the sensor has gone it will show CAL ERRO after trying to zero.
The 802’s a great airplane. A couple of tips I would add for pilots that are transitioning from a 4 or 5 is to be prepared for a heavier stick and slower roll rate. It would be safest to make your turns flat and roll out on track before descending to the target. Rolling out while descending low level could get you into trouble. The turns I’ve described may be a couple of seconds slower but, until you’re really comfortable, I think you’d be a lot safer (I’m really not a fan of the high, hard, slow turns - stall the 8 with a good load and you’re done). I’m not criticizing this guy’s turns (looks like he’s between the two), just saying for new guys, be cautious. Also, if you’re turning with flaps, do not, I repeat, DO NOT retract flaps low level as you’re descending into the field. The sudden sink rate could easily shorten your career.
Sometimes a little tidbit of information will sit dormant in the back of your brain until that pucker moment when you need your hands to do something your brain hasn’t thought of yet.
You leave your flaps in until you are in the field? I pull my flaps out as I am descending from the top of the turn. It’s a non issue.
802... what a horse ! We used to think it was flat here in Iowa, but it looks really flat in this video. And square fields ! LOL Great video !
Smooth operator........ It is amazing you can control that aircraft as big and heavy as it is with such ease. Light on the stick and she just goes where you want her to....... Can't beat the power of a Pratt engine.
So cool, cant wait to get the oppurtunity to do this someday
Much faster than my old 600 B Model used to be.
@A-Plus Computer Services BT cotton seed put most of us out of business. :(
I turn up the volume when spraying bug juice and fungicide. If im spraying herbicide I slow down quite a bit. Not 600 B model slow though 🤣
Love your office my friend :) Greetings from country Australia.
Hello Patrick , Nice video
Awesome... i love thw mounting position.
Come hang out sometime and I'll show you around the Air Tractor. I think you might be surprised with the capabilites of this awesome machine.
My God, that looks like fun!
Very nice!
Смотрим из России. Передаём привет хорошему пилоту.
I need to brush up on my Russian. Can't quite figure out what you are saying there
Patrick, I feel like it was intentional that you filmed with only 200g on!
I want to see the hot, heavy, dog turns!
Full load vids are pretty boring but just for you I will upload one later today with 700 gal spraying a small field surrounded by 100’ tall trees. Unfortunately the video doesn’t do justice for the actual experience of spraying a field like that.
Seen only two Implications for the 802 in ag, either spraying or aerial rice seeding
It’s also used for fire fighting
@@zev7973 im talking about this variant in specific, yes it may still be an 802 but ultimately still different
@@catwithabat7163 oh kk
Nice video Patrick! Where is this at?
This is in the bootheel of Missouri a few miles west of the Mississippi river.
Full I see this right, that you're flying at 160kts while spraying?
The airspeed indicator is in MPH
So you went to vista. After that did you pick up a job immediately or did you have to instructor to build hours or what. Where do you go to find jobs? How true is it that the need for dusters is really high? What’s your work season?
I did and yes I did get a job right away but I had been working as a ground man in the industry for 5 years prior and I pretty much got lucky. Vistas helped with insurance and I didnt have to build time. I got in my first ag plane with about 400tt.
The need for experienced applicators is really high, not so much for new applicators. It's always been hard to break in and I dont think that will change. My working season is March-October.
802 turns great with 200 gallons in the hopper! Show us the video with 700 gallons ;-)
I’m about to upload a vid with 700 gal spraying a small field surrounded by 100’ trees. Stay tuned
Do you ever get the temptation to make Ratatatatata-sound?
I do that on a regular basis.
If I’m 21 and have no flying experience is it impossible for me to get to be a crop duster one day? I like airplanes a lot but never have flown one.
Just met a guy who at 50 something decided to become a pilot and is now in his 4th spraying season. Nothing is impossible, you're just 21 man, you go your whole life in front. If you want it you just have to work at it hard enough, research what it takes to be an ag pilot, make a plan and stick to it.
@@ensayosdeunvagabundo Thanks man, I'm looking into it and have been contacting some flying schools. (:
@@ensayosdeunvagabundo is ther a way to get a loading job in the winter? I want to try loading maybe in Florida to get a Taoist of the industry before I invest in getting flight lessons and all.
@@excellenceinanimation960 no idea what the season is in Florida, I"m up in Canada so the season here is much shorter (June to mid-Sept if you do forestry).
Saludos cordiales desde Costa Rica Patrick cohen
I fly an ag-truck in North Texas. I'm curious about the process of transitioning into a turbine plane. Have any pointers?
Its a pretty easy transition. There are a few different types of turbines we use (free spinning and direct drive) and they operate a bit differently so I couldn't give any pointers not knowing what you would be flying. Listen closely to the person that is giving you the transition because they are all rigged a little bit differently.
Hello Patrick, Does your Qty gauge always show error when you are not spraying?
Hi Troy, this gauge shows error when suckback is applied. It reads -15 psi with the pump off and I believe it reads 15 psi low when spraying. I believe we are going to replace the gauge box and/or the pressure sensor at annual.
@@pcohen85 it sounds like a drift issue. hold the dim button when you turn the unit on, it will re-zero the pressure gauge. If the sensor has gone it will show CAL ERRO after trying to zero.
@@troyreabe7882 thanks! I will do that when I get back to work next week.
And he got the MVP-50 in there lol
Dream Job!
Why so fast? Only left turns? Engine tourk?
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