Does Bricklaying cause back pain and joint pain!?!?
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Human body wears out no matter what you eat or do ,some faster than others🤷🏻♂️ Just the way it is.
Hi Charlie load of tosh I am a teetotaler, eaten healthy all my life no junk food it didn't exist when I was in my teens only fish and chips not like it does now .I have had tests done and my doctor says it is repetitive movements ie trowel in my hand and picking up wet damp bricks and blocks and standing in wet footing .I didn't see pen pushers in the site cabins with the aches and pains .I am 72 now and struggle with my wrist and knee joints .bricklaying is all I have ever known and done all my working life .
Also, you can't outfit the weather. It can be horrible.
Ditto mate. Inevitable facts are serious work....serious problems....FACT
did you develop your back muscles though In the gym? because if your back muscles aren't strong enough when it comes to the spine the joints will help lift the load for you which destroys the disks
He said 'personal experiences' right.
But if you call fish n chips healthy eating them maybe start to here
Worked as bricklayer all my working life no problems just occasional trowel hand breaking in new trowel ,suffering now as played rugby for thirty years
One of the most fatiguing career choices going from the damage it does to the muskoskeletal system, once the back goes it doesnt come back. Thats why i had to come off the tools, in my formative years going on like a hooray shunting 3m catnics, steel RSJ's, hodding bricks up 2 storeys on private extensions, just the wear and tear of constant repetitive movements of loading the mixer. Its a killer, the mantra in out burnt out by 50 still applies. My uncles are broken and the trowel is all theyve known so thats them till they call it a day. But theyre mercenaries and masochists and love it. Agree with the diet part but its proven, this career choice is a grueller.
Totally agree mate👍
Charlie, PLEASE tell us what you do put in your body food and drink wise. We know you’ve touched on it before in a few videos but we need a separate video dedicated to it alone on what food and drink works for you and what may work for others in similar trades.
Layed bricks today currently layed in bed heat pad on with back pain Charlie. 35 years of it back elbow and rotator cuff .Repetitive movement over to many years and im fat which dont help 😂 .You have a very valid point ive made on a video. I also think bricklayers should be educated in college to take care of there body.Me now at 50 its the arthritis joint pain from repetitive movement ive worked my bollocks off to be fair.I do 100% believe what you say about lifestyle would of been a help to me definitely and stretching before and after work along with exercises made for bricklaying. Bricklaying is a lifestyle Charlie ive learnt that 👍 great topic mate
As a 54 year old who started on the tools at 16 I worked at a time when health and safety wasn't a priority. It was the done thing to carry the heaviest weight and work like a donkey, and an unhealthy private life has left me unable to work with a poor standard of life. I have herniated discs in l1 to l7 and also prolapsed discs and sciatica. This affects my bladder and bowels and I have COPD too. I would love to be back at work but realistically I can't. You hit the nail on the head though, it is not just the work that does the damage. Love the channel dude, building is a wonderful way to earn a living and there has never been a time like this 👍❤️
Brillian geezer charlie;) Honest where it counts and inspiration for youngsters coming into the trade. I dropped out in the 90's when the eastern europeans come over & took all the work, along with Thatcher!
Renovating our home in spain now though, so the knowledge is highly valuable.
Love the channel mate;)
Once your back goes ,you will forever have back problems
Im fucked then.
Definitely
Oh yes!
I disagree.
Depends what went wrong and how bad I guess. My disc bulged L2/L3 and my foot went numb so I’m done and clinically depressed now.
Well said Charlie, inflammation from years of essentially substance abuse weather that be junk food or alcohol will destroy the joints like you wouldn't believe, we need to stretch joints and muscles to get new nutrients inside of them carried by new blood lubricating the system and flushing out the bad toxins.
I think it'll become more common knowledge in the future, with people like yourself creating content like this with very valid points.
Everybody complains about bending over, but nobody strengths the side that helps them get back up, our bodies are antagonistic all the muscles have relationships with the opposite side PE doesn't teach our kids this but it's more important than ever with all the lounging around we do.
Love your vids mate, all the best
Great advice 👌👌👌
Videos on how to eating health would be very helpful Charlie 👍 love watching a tradesmen at word it's very relaxing, only if they are good at it
Never met a brickie thats not damaged over 50 😢
Loved this mate 👍 you should do a video on what your routine is and what you eat in a week for example
Charlie you should do a whole video on a day in a life and do what you eat in a day and what you drink??
I've been on the trowel 30 years and would put my back out 3 times a year and take a week off with muscle spasms each time .
I went to see the bad back lady and she told me to stretch on my hands and knees like a cat arches it's back when it wakes up, just for 20 seconds. I haven't had a bad back in 5 years.
Apparently you grow half inch during sleep due to your discs swelling , so your muscle tendons are stretched first thing in the morning.
I knew a good bricklayer, died 10 years ago, he had 10 kids, and he drank around 12 beers during work. Still worked in his retirement all week during summer until his mid 60s. He still wanted to work later on but he got so slow that nobody wanted him anymore. But no shame at this age. And he was nice to work with. Highly philosophical during lunch.
Respect on talking about things like this. Not that many will listen. Diet/fasting and lifestyle is everything. Strong body, strong mind. The body can perform miracle healing even in the worst cases. All about discipline like everything.
I'm 66, , had a back op 20 years ago , worked on my core since then and still going strong , cant imagine not working , love it !!
Climbing is backstretching with extra benefits.
Having a good core is key .
If you love work you must be playing wrong
Finished playing mate, its all about family now !
Charlie hi .I was in building trade 40years finished st 58 .athritose in bk neck knees had it you wait till you get 50
Well said Charlie !!!!
100% it causes back and joint pain. I was a bricklayer for 13 years from 17- 30. I then worked as a tiler for 10 years. Completely abused my body. Played lots of sport too. I had a double hip replacement at 40 years old. But what didn’t have was information and guidance how to look after your body. Listening to you Charlie and your message about looking after your body, stretching, gym, and a healthy diet, I reckon you could be a bricklayer into the 60s. Excellent video as per usual Charlie. 🙌🏻
my dad was a tiler had one hip done around 40 and the other 5years after.! i tile as well and its not easy on the body, especially if your not built for it like skinny me!
If you do a any repetitive job and do not stretch before you sleep you will shorten the ligaments, tendons and muscles over time. Its this tightness that leads to most of peoples problems. Inflammation does exacerbate joint pain but also most do not drink enough high mineral content water or electrolytes to retain that water for longer in the fascia and tissues which helps repair and keep flexible.
This is good advice
Emphysema is a big problem wit old brickies having used disco cutter for years with no mask
Great advice! Im curious about your footwear, I delivered mail for Canada Post for forty years and went through allot of back pain. I found out through other people who delivered mail it was because of my poor quality of foot wear. My question to you being on you feet all day is good quality footwear hard to find for a bricklayer?
A shallow pillow prevents shoulder impingement and spine curvitor. Im 53 still going good .i take cod liver oil caps alternate days . Sit ups strengthen the core. Respect.
Bricklaying nowadays is much easier on the body than it was 40 years ago, mainly down to good practice and h&s changes. Mortar stands, bricks stacked correctly, ready mixed mortar, fork tucks etc. Not much carried up a ladder nowadays other than a tool bag, used to have to carry every brick and every hod of muck up the ladder. You don't have to lift many heavy things like concrete lintols and the cement came in 50kg bags and you rarely see a wheelbarrow, we even had to manhandle the trusses up for the chippies😂 it's mainly just a trowel of muck & a brick nowadays. There were no gloves and a mask was your hanky tied round your face. You might have a different opinion if you were doing it back then Charlie.
Well said.
@suemarsden7249
I started on sites in the 1960`s and I remember all that and more - it was like the bloody wild west in those days. And as you rightly say ,"bloody hard physical graft" day after day,after day.
PS = The cement, plaster came in 1CWT bags, never heard of 50kg`s in them days.
I am very pleased to be retired now......😁😁👍👍
PPS = Do you remember the concrete boot lintels......they weighed about 2 hernias per linear foot.
@@martin2466 haha yes 1cwt, said 50kg as I didn't think anyone would know what a cwt was. We used to have 2 tons of it delivered every Monday morning and every bag was handballed off on your shoulder. The bags were still red hot and used to burn your shoulder. Oh the good old days. 😂
Remember the boot lintels and also in the sixties worked on many sites where mortar boards were placed directly on the ground, not raised like they are now.
@@suemarsden7249 You know Mate......!!!
Remember the bricks arriving on the back of a wagon - stacked loose with straw packing, and still warm from the kiln.? Every one hand-balled off. No tele-handlers, No fork lifts, No Pallets or shrink wrapping, Timber pole ladders, Putlog scaffolds, timber lintels, two inch cavities, No insulation, No cavity trays, NO Health & Safety.....we could go on and on and on.....Lots of tradies on the cards then, not so many subies or self employed then. Do you remember the introduction of the 715 exemption certs? Working the "Lump"..? A lot of cash in hand in those days.
😁😁👍👍👍👍
Good advice again Charlie, I'm now 66 and still laying, mainly because I stopped drinking 15 years ago. A little arthur in my knee but in general I feel great. I intend to carry on as long as I can, not through greed, but like you I love it. So why stop something you love.
@gaary1969
Congratulations on your 15 years of sobriety - most impressive.
I retired at age 68 after forty nine years on the blade.
All the best to you - and crack on, one day at a time.
👍👍👍👍👍🧱🧱😁
53 year bricklayer, always had achy joints, but a decent mattress works wonders over the last few years they have gone. Recommend a decent mattress helps immensely 👍
Absolutely.
Correct Danny...to be a better brickie you need to get your bed right 😂😂🤠
@@ianhoward4246 yes that's right penis ,
@@ianhoward4246 the subject was aches and pains, penis,
@@ianhoward4246 Thank you penis
I grew up laboring for old school brick layers and they would always say don’t over work yourself on any given day because it messes you up for the next day
When on a price though the guys need u to bust your bawz for them to make decent money & if you can’t handle it they’ll just get someone else in. Sad but true. ✌️👍✌️
👍well said
Well said, real talk
Agreed man good diet goes a long way, body can adapt to its demands if you look after it.
M8 most Hod Carriers don’t last much after there 50 from my experience. Most have severe back problems & hip/wrist issues with constant pressure on there various joints & muscles. I assume it’s the same for the Brick layers but obviously the labourers don’t get a second to get any chance to get a easy day as there’s always something else the Hoddie needs to do to get ahead & make good money when on price work. It’s a job that needs fit men & woman.
and women?
@@John_Wood_ Hey John I had to say that because obviously Charlie has Amy working with him but not at the moment due to being pregnant but you know what I meant. 😂. ✌️👍✌️
Must be one of the new woke generation😁@@John_Wood_
Go on Charles.
Work smart not hard I’ve been a mason for 15 years and I’m about the same age as you now and I agree the diet is the key and college peptides and protein shake for breakfast every morning cheers
Older generations will never get the healthy lifestyle thing. Fry ups, steaks, alcohol intake is all a badge of honour to most of them. The best line in this video is 'until you blame your lifestyle you won't change your lifestyle', perfectly said right there.
Proper eating and pacing yourself at work (any job) is an approach that pays off, not over weeks but over decades!
I had my first hip resurface at 37 and the other at 39 from laying bricks since 16 years old . Yes it can take it toll on certain people . Just hit 50 and still laying !
Wats a hip resurface iv had hip pain last 2 years I'm a 5n2 price gang 35 years old
they have lasted well
Think I should go physio every month just getting the time
Iv just started stretching
It’s basically a metal on metal hip replacement for young active people . Andy Murray the tennis player has had the same op . It’s not a full hip replacement but it’s worked wonders for me . I can honestly say without getting them done I would not be laying bricks now . 👍🏻💪
you can start with two brand-new Elbo joints after that you will find that you worn your knee joints so you get two new scaffold clip knees after that you can get two new titanium hips that will see you out until retirement good luck
Cracking advice man. Would love to see a few cooking videos / dinner ideas / healthy eating options
Core muscles is the key. Weak muscles get tired fast and then the damage slowly starts.
Have you done a video on your diet Charlie brilliant channel
😂😂You are amazing mate you are true person
Back went in early 30s laying way more than anyone I ever worked with.
Had Back operation. Left with long term nerve damage.
Tennis elbow all the time, and my wrist is damaged with using Hilti guns firing into steel beams with the kick back. Tendons damaged on my forearms.
All brickwork related injuries.
Gave it up
Do Joinery mostly now.
I was a bricklayer for 48 yrs i started slowing down in my mid-fifties, i had more pains in my early 20s then it went. but in my fifties is started coming back. now in my late 60s arthritis is getting worse hands and back. but brickies have it a lot easier then now we didn't have heavy machines to help us, all carried up a ladder and unloaded the lorries by hand.
you got it Brother.! 🤙 and it showed my daughter a good eating habit, so even if they stray into junk food they will always come back to good food.! shes 20 now thin and healthy 👌 my job is done 😁 Hako 🇦🇺
Yes
I did olympic weightlifting, IF and plant-based diet. Not had back pain in years.
Give it time you'll get it ....
I found cycling to work helped massively but for most tradesmen that not an option. Getting warmed up before a hard day's graft is a boost. A lot of lads go to the gym before work, agree about alcohol it's savage on the body.
I am 80. My father was a bl my grandfather was a bl. They had back and joint pain from time to time. Both said a big belly gives a weak back. This lad is correct you are what you eat and drink. My dad died when he was 94 his dad also.
i'm 16 and i'm already in bits 😂😂 starting to question if i bother moving onto actual brickwork rather than college, but there's nothing else i really want to do
The only problem I get now is a bit of tennis elbow.
Course it does wear and tear on the body
"Osteoarthritis"
As we were mainly talking about back problems, i left out that i also have osteoarthritis in my hands!!! Its not now you have to worry about its as you start getting past 40, its starts to catch up with you.
Were you not boxing as well in your younger days?
Good evening charley 😊67 still going strong 💪 don't lay bricks 😅any more 💪 😉 sitting here on my beach and don't drink or smoke 😊just hard work never killed anyone 😮miss laying bricks ❤ok thanks again for your video 📹 👍 from the Philippines ha haha to hot 🔥 🥵 here
Work to live ,not live to work, enjoy your self while still you can because later on in life ya might not be able to enjoy yours self and what a waste of a life it would be ,one life one chance
Plant based FTW….Sleep…hydration….high carb low fat…..👊🏻
Bad back arthritis in knees,hips and wrists most from repetitive strain injuries cut out junk processed food still plodding along 45 yrs of laying bricks
Ffs , 42 years on the trowel and still do weights , I’m sure they help I don’t go heavy anymore just keep myself in shape, yeah I have pains everywhere but I’m sure I’ve got a few years left in me 🏋🏻♀️💪🏻
I worked in a factory and in an office in my late teens and early 20’s. Didn’t really go to the gym. Always had a sore back. Became a groundworker and started to go to the gym all the time. Funnily enough my sore back went away lifting heavy weight and lifting kerbs and lockblock all day. Everyone is different, but I don’t believe that jobs like these are the only reason you are sore
I’ve been pounding in the units for 25 years now, when I was in my 20s I was a machine!! Around 35 started to feel the pain, knees wrist back
I’m 48 now still at it! I need to slow down and look after my body, I want to enjoy my elder years not be a cripple
Look after your body boys!!
i feel the same im 25 body is only sore not in pain tho i hardly drink mostly water but i do like a good chocolate bar thats the thing that i find hard to quit
Wait till you’re older for this sort of advice. You haven’t even been in the game for 20 yrs if that. Your still a kid ffs.
His in for a shock as the years go by👍
I have to agree with this,, repetitive movements and carrying is not what our bodies are designed for,, you dont see animals doing the stuff humans do as “jobs”,, lions dont carry stuff on their backs for example. People who squat weights for example are in for a shock if or when they pull their back out, or worse their anus gets absolutely destroyed,, that isnt a joke either.
Exactly it's coming lol
You obviously don't understand that at age 21 mens bodies begin to weaken and go on a downward slope from then on.....if you don't keep actively fit then sure...many problems will arise.
@@danh9503 biggest load of shyte that,, you hit peak at 28-33, and stay relatively competitive up to 38. It's after 40 you decline. Don't fall for that shyte about 21 declining ffs.
What wrong with sandwiches!
Nothing at all.
Hot sausage sandwich, on white bread with lashings of brown sauce. Nice mug of hot sweet tea...
Breakfast of champions.
Charlie I always get tennis elbow and I don't play tennis
Enjoy all your stuff mate. But think you need to do another video when you're 55. You can eat healthy and all but it's all about wear and tear on your body and an ageing thing. 53 and still enjoying it, when it stops raining 😂
My wrist are not in best condition and back isn’t in great shape, but hey ho just did silly things when younger 🤔👍
Yes,I would drink at least 8 on a Friday night,8,to 9 on a Saturday night,and on a Sunday night around 7 pints,and now I don't drink no more,give it up 10 years in September 1st my Birthday i'm a different person now,and I go to church.And train 3 times a week in the gym cardio 80%,and weight train 20 % or maybe more,drink is no good! 👍
My grandpa is a 66 year old bricklayer and he still fit and has no problem with his joints it all the crap junk you eat
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If your a footings trowel then you will have back problems, and the reason is your back is permanently bent over and never straightens. So my advice is keep away from footings
Work hard or Starve my Son, what a palaver! Leave it out, strike a light!
15/20 pints, 3 nights a week 🤘
Charl it's cold skeletal wear mate
Your body is not a machine because a machine can't fix itself. Get rid of distractions and concentrate on your injury and in time it will go away
Ur back can go at anytime. When it does. Itl never be the same
Lots of people in construction end up with drink problems gambling issues also plus as you say charlie abuse there bodies only some are wise enough to make good money invest money buy property sell it rent it etc but most drink all they earn very sad also nothing to show for working hard there whole life .
If you were drinking between 45 and 60 pints a week and now you drink nothing and eat really healthy it's a bit of a no brainer that you feel better..without a doubt laying bricks will have a impact on your back and joints if you do it all your life. Lifestyle and genetics will play a part but a few beers and a kebab ain't gonna turn you into a cripple
Yes had to give up bricklaying at 30 had 2 level spinal fusion titanium rods and screws & pins through pelvis into spine when I reached 44.
I've heard Borax is good for joint pain
That’s TikToc bovine faeces
Charlie, can u recommend some of the books you've spoken about in previous videos? Agree with you on the drink and diet it plays a role for sure
When i fell off the ladder my hip hurt real bad for a few days
Been off 5 weeks now and been in some excruciating back pain ,blaming footings and heavy graft off the years gone by ,slowly on the mend but now questioning if i can go on in the trade or if its worth it , no doubt im going to find out soon .
15/20 pints yeah right 🤣🤣
Told him million times not to exaggerate🙃
Full of shit he exaggerates on how many bricks and blocks he lays😂
Easily done thurs fri and Saturdays...especially if your sniffing ching. Loads of blokes in there mid 20s do it
It sure can if you're an older fella. At 35+ our bodies are on a one way trip to getting weaker etc. That's just basic human anatomy lol. So, with that in mind if someone doesn't regularly exercise but does this for a career for years it will effect joints and muscles. But keeping actively fit with a good diet will definitely decrease those type problems from occurring.
Hi charlie m8 😊 Ricky the bricky here i really do think if u put shite in your body it will react over time . Ive ate well from i started in 1984 hardly drink much but in my 40s i felt the pain set in im 55 now and can just do part time 😢 but up on till a few years ago i always had my muck boards on the ground on two blocks so i know that much dipping with a 11 trowel was probally to blame just a thought 👌
in another 20 yrs you,ll really start to feel it son but you,ll have earnt enough and be retired by then hopefully
Seed oils is a big one and processed food stick to real butter and olive oil and animal fats ;)
Weak things break….. strengthen your core via the big 3 recommended by back expert Stu McGill. Don’t fall into the habit of relying on medication which just masks the problem
I’m 58 and I use a chiropractor once a month at £40 a pop £480 a year less than a days wage prevention is better than cure in my late twenties I had back trouble but since using chiropractor been good
Doesn't mater what job you do or sport aches and pain is always there everyone sufers pain,some more than others if your lifting all day your going to feel it more,you go to the gym thats not good for you lifting all that weight not good,could go on but you all know the score,i had covid i had aches and ains and i don't drink
Plastering would give bricklaying a run for fucking the body up spent my early years using sand and cement elbow hell trust me
Same as me,but I take tablets.
Make the money while your young up to forty be careful with it, invest it in property, then work 3 days a week sorted!
What's this a recruitment drive . Every body wants their pound of flesh out you .Eventually mother of time creeps up on you and your fooked . 45 years from boy to grandfather for me it's a runt of a job . Charlie on the money Collison your talking hollocks 😊
Your 100% right it’s all diet related
Wot a load of bollocks . Bricklaying everyday will give u aches and pains.Maybe not eaten junk food or drinking junk makes u swear more every other word that comes out of his mouth is the F word
I'm 60,a joiner,my hands are fkd ,my backs gone, knees are bad, and I don't drink,apart for that I'm fine,😅,most food is full of poison, processed food especially, nearly everything has rapeseed oil in it,, worse oil there is!!!they are slowly killing us