I think that was fair. Basically for the average Joe the Portta will do the job but for the enthusiast the OSSC really is the obvious choice. Great video again. Really useful side by sides. P.s. like the new intro
That's a fair way to assess the two products since the OSSC is endlessly tunable while the Portta is plug & play by comparison :) Glad the video proved helpful once again & thank you! I really wanted a more atmospheric feel to my videos this season ^^
I was expecting the OSSC to rule them all once again, but yeah, the Porta pulled a little bit of an upset here. Also, I've learned so much about classic gaming systems thanks to you 🎮💓
To be honest the OSSC is far better but it was only the PS3 where it did stumble but again, for beginners or those who just want a quick solution the Portta gets the job done :) No worries glad you are enjoying learning ^^
The Portta is really well suited for those who are prioritizing budget and convenience over features and overall quality. Yes, if you have the extra money to spend, the OSSC (and RetroTink-5X) are the go-to choices to get a phenomenal experience, but if saving money and getting an image that "gets the job done" is important, you really can't go wrong with the Portta. Would be interesting in seeing how the Portta compares to other cheap Component to HDMI converters (with the resolution scaling) like the EASYCEL or Sunnatch converter.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay They've been on my mind since they appear to have different hardware compared to the Portta. I've had the Portta for a bit now and its done well. :) I believe the Easycel and Sunnatch may be the same, just different branding.
I think that is likely although they could be tuned differently so until testing is carried out, it's hard to say although I suspect the results would be similar:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay If you are able to get your hands on them though I will definitely have to keep my eyes out to see if they are any good or not, or if the Portta will still be the de-facto low end choice.
Hey man, awesome video. I think for now i'll just get a nice set of component cables for my ps2 and hook it up directly to my HDTV (since it has component inputs), then maybe down the line i'll get either the Portta or the ossc.
Why not ^^ Definitely a good way to play PS2 games although I'm not sure if PS1 games will work this way as 240p/288p doesn't show up with component but I might be wrong:p Reguardless, hope you enjoy ^^
Ultimately, you need to treat the situation on a game by game basis. If you are playing a 240p or 288p game, you'll want to use the OSSC. If you want to play a 480i or 576i game, a cheap converter has it beat because the resolutions on those games are the same as what you'll get from a VCR or DVD recorder. And of course, the resolution switch issue is the bane to everybody's existence and makes cheap converters a necessity unless you want to pay extra for something like a RetroTINK 5X.
I'm mostly interested in getting a PS2 connected to my new TV with no component or composite inputs. For the money the Portta looks like a good bet. OSSC has issues with 480i apparently (90% of ps2 games) Excellent review, thanks.
I wouldn't say issues, just that it handles 480i differently & it does it well & it's compatible as long as you use the 2x mode :) RGB scart is also easy to use on it but yes the cost will jump so it is up to you :)
Thank you, man. Thanks to your video, I ordered myself an ossc for ps2. I can't wait to be brought in. Great video, once again convinced of the right decision to buy ossc)
The OSSC is incredible, had mine for a year & I don't regret it one bit :) Hope you enjoy your purchase & if you have any questions, feel free to ask :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay will do - currently using the AVerMedia ET113 video cable (component) not that great tbh, it's not capturing some PAL games ... keen to look into different options! 🧐👍
@@TheAffroShowGameplay thanks Affro, the Avermedia ET113 serve as my downscaler component to hdmi - we use AVermedia 2 + (to capture footage which is great) just the ET113 cable that's a bit of a headache but this vid gave good insights as to what other options we can explore👍
Unfortunately I never got my hands on Marvel Vs Capcom on PS3 without any warning. 🙁 And I still haven't figured out how to get Japanese PSN Cards just to buy certain games on the Japanese PSN while the PS3 and PSP Stores are shutting down in the summer. 🙁
I got the game a long time ago & luckily for the PSP at least you can go online and downloads isos of the games & put them onto a hacked PSP which is very easy to do! Sadly the same cannot be said for the PS3 which is a shame :o
This might be a stupid question but does the brand of OSSC matter? I’ve seen many of them on the market and I was wondering if there was a loss in quality from one brand to another.
Most of them should be the same quality as far as my research goes so as long as you get the right version (i.e 1.6 not 1.5) you should be good to go :)
I dont think its a fair comparison between a hardware deinterlacer (porta) and software deinterlacing. obs is pretty bad for that. A decent tv will blow it out of the water
I think it's very fair because although OBS isn't perfect, it shows people what they can achieve if they don't want to use the Bob deinterlacing of the OSSC for whatever reason, a TV can be used to deinterlace when in passthrough mode too with the OSSC so definitely fair :) Also people need to see what results can look like if they go this route :)
You could hack it & try sharpscale on the PSTV also for HDMI capture you need a HDMI splitter which I used in this video to get the Portta working with my Elgato HD60s Plus video capture device :)
For 720p are you switching between DVI, HDTV (rgb) and HDTV (yuv)? There's a weird thing that affects these modes on some tv's and leads them into thinking they're for either regular viewing mode or pc mode. Playing with the options on ossc can fool with both of them!
To be honest I have never touched that part of the OSSC since I never play 720p on it aside from this video, this is why I wanted a second opinion before trying to start tinkering with it but, I'll see if this fixes the issue :)
Has anyone experienced black crush with the upscaler where the blacks are too black and its impossible to see in games which have dark areas. I'm trying to find out whether if it's an issue with the upscaler, projector or my component cables.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Hey again, could you do a video comparing the odv to the retrotink 2x pro on the ps2? I can't seem to find any footage online of the ps2 using odv.
Awesome video man! like always! and excellent music!! i have that Etcetera tune from your other vid on repeat!!! here me out, i got an ODV as you know and looks great (s-video cable works no cuts for ps1 on ps2) but the Portta seems to be kind of king of the hill in some areas. like lets imagine the following situation. for example someone owns both a Wii(the gamecube backwards compat one) and a PS2 and only a PC monitor that only takes 720p or 1080p. then in thas case the portta is the best and only solution you have!! and is cheap too. sadly you can tell it looks definetly worse than odv and of course way worse that the ossc. like on the Claire Redfield scene behind bars. Porrta looks bad. i have read in a forum that the Portta uses a very similar chip to the better wii2hdmi adapter, the one that supports the lower resolutions too. someone in my city is selling this portta upscaler device for 10 euros second hand online. i think i will purchase it at that price to see if its is worth it for me to play 480p content due to the fact that the ODV which i love! does not handle that resolution. how to you feel about input lag on the portta upscaler? you have said in the past that it is too bad but i guess it wont be ODV good(somehow how it feels i now pursue image quality? but not long a go it was not that important for me, curious! i guess this is how people end up buying an OSSC or a framemeister).
Thank you ^^ I appreciate that & I have more interested content coming up soon hopefully 😁 I mean for me personally, the Portta Component To HDMI has it's use & it will work decently with 480p and beyond although the ODV is better outside of the lack of progressive scan support :o I say if its that cheap, go for it & try it out on 480p games & then get an OSSC in the future as the framemister costs way too much now 🤣
@@TheAffroShowGameplay awesome 10 euros + 2.5 euros shipment for the portta, it is used but it looks fine. i will order it and try it out for 480p! and i definetly see myself getting the OSSC in the future framemister is just insane money. thank you and keep on with the awesome content and vibes!
@@trashcan9001 Let me know how you find it all but the Portta will still be used for my videos mainly for comparison reasons :) Woo I definitely will! :D Thank you for the support & hope the Portta works out for you :)
Conclusion If you're going to play with consoles with resolutions lower than 240p or with ps1 ossc it's better, but if you're going to use it on ps2 or consoles of the same generation , portta is the best option
I actually disagree here, the OSSC is better than the Portta in everyday:) Better graphics, better deinterlacing & much better built along with more support to play more systems thanks to it having RGB SCART & VGA along with Component:) Also there's less image lag & the image itself is far better on OSSC:) The Portta might be a good start to get back into retro gaming but a much better option would be the Retrotink 2x, the Retroscaler 2x, a RAD2X cable or even emulation :)
The OSSC was much better, admittedly it was using Passthrough mode so it may have not been as sharp at the time but it has a 4x mode which would blow the portta away & it has much better 480p support:) If you also look carefully the portta has PS2 image errors unlike the OSSC:)
Hi, hope things are well. It’s appreciated about the walkthrough with these devices. Though is this process with the HD PVR 2, possible with the Portta device using a PSP 2000 model? Even if the quality isn’t as ideal? Thanks.
Think after looking into this, does using the HDMI splitter cable. Ie whatever the type used in the video to get the Portta to work. Would this be the thing needed, in order to connect that, the HD PVR and PSP 2000 together?
@btr9160 Hello mate, ok I actually had a better look into this device since I had no idea what it was xD From what I saw, it looks if it already has a component cable that you can plug into the device :) If you wanted to use PSP 2000 on it, just plug the component adapter into it, switch the PSP to video out & it should work :) However, if you don't have this adapter for your device, unfortunately I cannot say with certainty if using the portta with this device will work, even with a HDMI spittler involved :o Hopefully you can get it working :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay well its blurry my guess its lost video fidelity after it takes the 480i/480p and stretches it to 1080. 🤷♂️ I am using retrovision hd component cables hooked up to it. So between $30 for the Porrta upscaler, 30 for HD Retrovision and $20 for freemcboot I'm 80 dollars in and the picture looks horrible
Unfortunately there's not much you can do as the Portta is not the best choice for video upscaling, you are much better off with the OSSC I use, much better for video upscaling :)
www.amazon.co.uk/Portta-YPbPr-Component-HDMI-Converter/dp/B0088HO1UC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=portta+component+to+hdmi+converter&qid=1620158556&sprefix=portta+c&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFIOVU4SEtPMU5BM0YmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MzI3NTYzN1YzVFVFTFkzUjZUJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNjczOTIzUTlJNFkzSzlFOFZTJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= There you go :)
It's best too look it up online :) If not, just make sure the scaler is either set to passthrough mode or 2x mode for best compatibility with TV's or monitors :)
My video called Xbox Flicker Filter on vs off video used the OG Xbox with the OSSC, although progressive scan was not used due to lack of support on PAL systems :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay It's great now because the configuration was added in the latest update. It was still windowed prior to this, but Marqs figured it out.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Awesome, thank you! One other question, Portta with a scaler or without? (I do use GSM to force higher resolution via my softmodded ps2)
@@Lalelulilo101 The Portta is an upscaler so it will already upscale the resolution to 1080p but, the higher the internal resolution you feed it the better it will perform:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Ah I was asking cause here in the UK there is 2 versions of the Portta. Edit: ah one comes with a scaler option the other does not.. which would be best?
Yeah its an alternative soundtrack so you have to dig to find it, it used to be much easier to find back last year :) That one is from Racing Lagoon, I use the Racing Lagoon soundtrack frequently in my season 5 uploads :)
hi im back! ok so i got the portta and ive been testing it, one mayor question i have. i can see a faint vertical line pattern when send a 480p signal to the device. it is nothing crazy but is there. i have tried kill switch and urban reign and it is definetly there. on 480i they are not there it looks fine so they only appear when progressive mode is activated. i have done research and this phenomenon is known as the jailbars effect. is this normal on the portta? mind you i have tried the same component cables on a tv with component input and they look amazing on 480p and i have tried the same config on another monitor to rule out that it was the monitor but no. if i feed a 480p to the portta i get jailbars. i have tried the other two devices i have that output 480p thru component the xbox 360 and the wii. i do get jailbars but the pattern is much smaller or less noticable than on the ps2. can you comment about this?? is this an expected phenomenon of the upscale made by the portta? do i have a defective unit? or do i actually need better cables regarding of my current ones working fine on other sets?? now my personal opinion. if think if you have a monitor that only takes 720p or 1080p and you want to spend the least amount of money possible then the portta is maybe your best bet. i dont really like the way ps1 game look and this jailbar on 480p thing is annoying but 480i looks fine... another problem.. on one tv the image did not fit good and on a monitor a hdmi splitter was neccesary for monitor to detect the image of the portta... so year it is a solution but hard to recommend with odv and rad2x out there. pretty much same conclusion as you. hopefully technology improves on this front rapidly at least it looks like it will.
Reguarding the jailbars effect I know 480p on the PS2 can introduce significant dithering so maybe that's what it was & the Portta's sharpening effect may have amplified it although I don't recall seeing jailbars on mine so I cannot be sure :o I know I use a more up to date 4K samsung TV so I don't know if other TV's or monitors behave differently:o I needed a HDMI splitter in my footage as the Elgato HD60s Plus won't see the Portta otherwise but it's not a big deal thankfully:) Unfortunately there's a reason the Portta is a cheap beginners device, once you experience the ODV/retrotink 2x line or in my case the OSSC, the Portta is quickly forgotten :o
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ok i just tested everything again with my two flatmates next to me and i confirm that for the xbox360 and wii i was trying hard to look for flaws but they actually look like they supposed too 480p no vertical bars. but no doubt the ps2 has the vertical line pattern, i have tested several 480p games and they all seem to have it to some degree the lines are thiner or thicker depending on the game. i feel you about the 480p dithering + portta amplifying the patter. i have done some search on internet and i found a guy on the shmups forum and he makes all the observations you make plus the following: "with 480p from a PS2 I get a severe chroma delay (might look better with Cube or XBox)" i can confirm that for me it is the same case...looking for some pictures about chrome delay + ypbpr and the results kind of let me know that it is indeed the problem. another find i have about thet portta is that 3 models exists for the same upscaler. i own model: N3CVRHP, another blue/black one exists: PETRHS and Gold/Black one but i dont have the name for it. so yeah maybe you dont have the same problem. still after all of this. not recomended it was supposed to be good because of the 480p supports but fails at it lol. as you say ODV/retrotink 2x line or OSSC for the win!!
@@trashcan9001 I will say the fact you went so far to confirm all this makes me think you should definitely make videos aha 🤣😁 But yes I also noticed there was more than one version on the Portta so maybe mine has no jailbars but other image errors which I showed in this video & the previous one :o Yeah, those upscalers along with the RAD2X HDMI cables are so much better & considering the cost, the Portta is subpar at best :o I still think for 480p & beyond it's still reasonable if you get the right one but if you can, jump up to the other upscalers ^^
@@TheAffroShowGameplay haha! thank you for that. just want the best image possible for my old consoles but the ps2 is a difficult beast!! i own the ODV already so i will save a bit of money and wait a sale for the OSSC and after i try that i will surely come back to talk about it!!. keep on with the quality content i will be watching!! thank you! xD
@@trashcan9001 It definitely is a beast that is hard to tame 🤣 It's worthwhile though I love the console & a decent upscaler makes a big difference ^^ Thank you mate & definitely keep an eye on Wednesday! Got a new video coming up talking about the Sony Official RGB Scart Cable & using it on the PS1, PS2 & PS3 via the OSSC!
Hello, do you have any recommendations for a cheap component to HDMI device for my PS2? I need it to display or convert in a way the 480i(of PS2's menu and some games) for my monitor that supports only progressive resolutions(minimum 480p). I tried to order a Portta scaler device after I watched your videos and hearing from many sources that its the best for price+quality, unfortunately, the order from Amazon cannot arrive in my city, forcing me to search other alternatives. From what I learned, to fix this I need a component to HDMI that has a line doubler function, at this point I just want to have the PS2 display everything on my monitor without relying on a chinese HDMI dongle that I currently have(cannot display interlaced resolutions like the 480i) and needs me to navigate blindly until I start a game with progressive scan. I don't care about the visual quality or any other gimmick(though, would be nice to avoid the bob deinterlacing, the upper shacking/tremble). Thank you!
Your best bet is to use the RAD2X cables, Retrotink 2x line or the ODV, they are decent value, look good & will allow 480i passthrough or 2x via bob deinterlacing:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ODV seems a great choice for me, price wise. Is it better than Retroscaler2x(someone else suggested this one)? Since their prices are similar.
I would say it's on par with the Retrotink, it's sharp enough & looks good with S-Video or Component ^^ My S-Video vs Composite video also using the ODV shows this off too :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Glad to hear its on par with Retrotink, really nice. I think ODV is the one that I will order soon. Does it works with GSM on PS2? More like, can it output 720p or 1080p?
Ah you may need a HDMI splitter as I did in this video since nothing showed up on my screen at first :) Also make sure your PS2 is set to Component or RGB in the system configuration menu :)
I made a video about the original XBOX in detail with component cables using the OSSC so please check out that video if you want to see the results:) (I.e it handles it superbly especially at line 2x mode (960p)
Ah that'll be a future video as I was thinking about retesting it against the OSSC but it will look ok, not great xD If you want my video on that you'll have to wait a while xD
Again not everyone can get the OSSC or may not use it for many consoles so the Portta is a decent starting point for many :) But yes the OSSC is of course better if you can get one :)
@@robbystrange4772 Ah I just am glad to have the upscalers, I don't worry or care about being ahead of anyone, just glad to put information out there to those who are interested in the upscalers :)
Welcome to Affro's Curiosities Season 5!
I hope you folks enjoy my return & I hope the videos are worth waiting for!
I think that was fair. Basically for the average Joe the Portta will do the job but for the enthusiast the OSSC really is the obvious choice. Great video again. Really useful side by sides.
P.s. like the new intro
That's a fair way to assess the two products since the OSSC is endlessly tunable while the Portta is plug & play by comparison :)
Glad the video proved helpful once again & thank you! I really wanted a more atmospheric feel to my videos this season ^^
I was expecting the OSSC to rule them all once again, but yeah, the Porta pulled a little bit of an upset here. Also, I've learned so much about classic gaming systems thanks to you 🎮💓
To be honest the OSSC is far better but it was only the PS3 where it did stumble but again, for beginners or those who just want a quick solution the Portta gets the job done :)
No worries glad you are enjoying learning ^^
The Portta is really well suited for those who are prioritizing budget and convenience over features and overall quality.
Yes, if you have the extra money to spend, the OSSC (and RetroTink-5X) are the go-to choices to get a phenomenal experience, but if saving money and getting an image that "gets the job done" is important, you really can't go wrong with the Portta.
Would be interesting in seeing how the Portta compares to other cheap Component to HDMI converters (with the resolution scaling) like the EASYCEL or Sunnatch converter.
Pretty much perfectly said :)
I'd have to get those in the future for potential testing if there's enough people wanting such a video :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay They've been on my mind since they appear to have different hardware compared to the Portta. I've had the Portta for a bit now and its done well. :)
I believe the Easycel and Sunnatch may be the same, just different branding.
I think that is likely although they could be tuned differently so until testing is carried out, it's hard to say although I suspect the results would be similar:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay If you are able to get your hands on them though I will definitely have to keep my eyes out to see if they are any good or not, or if the Portta will still be the de-facto low end choice.
@@ThunderTHR I'll see what I can do :)
Hey man, awesome video. I think for now i'll just get a nice set of component cables for my ps2 and hook it up directly to my HDTV (since it has component inputs), then maybe down the line i'll get either the Portta or the ossc.
Why not ^^ Definitely a good way to play PS2 games although I'm not sure if PS1 games will work this way as 240p/288p doesn't show up with component but I might be wrong:p
Reguardless, hope you enjoy ^^
Ultimately, you need to treat the situation on a game by game basis. If you are playing a 240p or 288p game, you'll want to use the OSSC. If you want to play a 480i or 576i game, a cheap converter has it beat because the resolutions on those games are the same as what you'll get from a VCR or DVD recorder. And of course, the resolution switch issue is the bane to everybody's existence and makes cheap converters a necessity unless you want to pay extra for something like a RetroTINK 5X.
I'll definitely have to see how a cheap upscaler & the OSSC truly fare in interlaced games as many people have issue with those :)
I'm mostly interested in getting a PS2 connected to my new TV with no component or composite inputs.
For the money the Portta looks like a good bet. OSSC has issues with 480i apparently (90% of ps2 games)
Excellent review, thanks.
I wouldn't say issues, just that it handles 480i differently & it does it well & it's compatible as long as you use the 2x mode :)
RGB scart is also easy to use on it but yes the cost will jump so it is up to you :)
Wow! Azalea did a pretty great job with that new logo! :D
She sure did! I love it & it really makes the video look far more presentable ^^
Nice video my friend, I just bought it the scaler portta to stream my ps2 and psp :D
this video is amazing
I hope it's serving you well & I hope you enjoy it :)
I appreciate that, hopefully more quality content continues to come from me!
Thank you, man. Thanks to your video, I ordered myself an ossc for ps2. I can't wait to be brought in. Great video, once again convinced of the right decision to buy ossc)
The OSSC is incredible, had mine for a year & I don't regret it one bit :)
Hope you enjoy your purchase & if you have any questions, feel free to ask :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay thank I will!)
Very insightful video - looking for a new upscaler ... this was good! 👍🎮
I hope this helps you make a decision & please also look into the RAD2x, retrotink2x & ODV ^^
@@TheAffroShowGameplay will do - currently using the AVerMedia ET113 video cable (component) not that great tbh, it's not capturing some PAL games ... keen to look into different options! 🧐👍
@@CyberComGaming Well I hope this video & others I have will help you out :)
Oh I use a Elgato HD60s Plus on all my captured footage :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay thanks Affro, the Avermedia ET113 serve as my downscaler component to hdmi - we use AVermedia 2 + (to capture footage which is great) just the ET113 cable that's a bit of a headache but this vid gave good insights as to what other options we can explore👍
Unfortunately I never got my hands on Marvel Vs Capcom on PS3 without any warning. 🙁 And I still haven't figured out how to get Japanese PSN Cards just to buy certain games on the Japanese PSN while the PS3 and PSP Stores are shutting down in the summer. 🙁
I got the game a long time ago & luckily for the PSP at least you can go online and downloads isos of the games & put them onto a hacked PSP which is very easy to do! Sadly the same cannot be said for the PS3 which is a shame :o
This might be a stupid question but does the brand of OSSC matter? I’ve seen many of them on the market and I was wondering if there was a loss in quality from one brand to another.
Most of them should be the same quality as far as my research goes so as long as you get the right version (i.e 1.6 not 1.5) you should be good to go :)
I dont think its a fair comparison between a hardware deinterlacer (porta) and software deinterlacing. obs is pretty bad for that. A decent tv will blow it out of the water
I think it's very fair because although OBS isn't perfect, it shows people what they can achieve if they don't want to use the Bob deinterlacing of the OSSC for whatever reason, a TV can be used to deinterlace when in passthrough mode too with the OSSC so definitely fair :)
Also people need to see what results can look like if they go this route :)
I wish I have a PSTV so I can Video Capture games from my PSVITA Account.
And somehow Video Capture from my TV to Computer.
You could hack it & try sharpscale on the PSTV also for HDMI capture you need a HDMI splitter which I used in this video to get the Portta working with my Elgato HD60s Plus video capture device :)
For 720p are you switching between DVI, HDTV (rgb) and HDTV (yuv)?
There's a weird thing that affects these modes on some tv's and leads them into thinking they're for either regular viewing mode or pc mode. Playing with the options on ossc can fool with both of them!
To be honest I have never touched that part of the OSSC since I never play 720p on it aside from this video, this is why I wanted a second opinion before trying to start tinkering with it but, I'll see if this fixes the issue :)
Has anyone experienced black crush with the upscaler where the blacks are too black and its impossible to see in games which have dark areas. I'm trying to find out whether if it's an issue with the upscaler, projector or my component cables.
Same as the pervious response, try to adjust black levels on the projector itself or in the game up the brightness setting if possible :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it
@@ehsanghazavi470 That's ok & I hope you soon are able to upgrade the Portta to the retrotink 2x or similar!
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Hey again, could you do a video comparing the odv to the retrotink 2x pro on the ps2?
I can't seem to find any footage online of the ps2 using odv.
Unfortunately I have neither device at this time but if I do I'll happily test both :)
Awesome video man! like always! and excellent music!! i have that Etcetera tune from your other vid on repeat!!! here me out, i got an ODV as you know and looks great (s-video cable works no cuts for ps1 on ps2) but the Portta seems to be kind of king of the hill in some areas. like lets imagine the following situation. for example someone owns both a Wii(the gamecube backwards compat one) and a PS2 and only a PC monitor that only takes 720p or 1080p. then in thas case the portta is the best and only solution you have!! and is cheap too. sadly you can tell it looks definetly worse than odv and of course way worse that the ossc. like on the Claire Redfield scene behind bars. Porrta looks bad. i have read in a forum that the Portta uses a very similar chip to the better wii2hdmi adapter, the one that supports the lower resolutions too. someone in my city is selling this portta upscaler device for 10 euros second hand online. i think i will purchase it at that price to see if its is worth it for me to play 480p content due to the fact that the ODV which i love! does not handle that resolution. how to you feel about input lag on the portta upscaler? you have said in the past that it is too bad but i guess it wont be ODV good(somehow how it feels i now pursue image quality? but not long a go it was not that important for me, curious! i guess this is how people end up buying an OSSC or a framemeister).
Thank you ^^ I appreciate that & I have more interested content coming up soon hopefully 😁
I mean for me personally, the Portta Component To HDMI has it's use & it will work decently with 480p and beyond although the ODV is better outside of the lack of progressive scan support :o
I say if its that cheap, go for it & try it out on 480p games & then get an OSSC in the future as the framemister costs way too much now 🤣
@@TheAffroShowGameplay awesome 10 euros + 2.5 euros shipment for the portta, it is used but it looks fine. i will order it and try it out for 480p! and i definetly see myself getting the OSSC in the future framemister is just insane money. thank you and keep on with the awesome content and vibes!
@@trashcan9001 Let me know how you find it all but the Portta will still be used for my videos mainly for comparison reasons :)
Woo I definitely will! :D Thank you for the support & hope the Portta works out for you :)
Ok i will come back to you after using the portta on ps2 and wii! xD
Conclusion If you're going to play with consoles with resolutions lower than 240p or with ps1 ossc it's better, but if you're going to use it on ps2 or consoles of the same generation , portta is the best option
I actually disagree here, the OSSC is better than the Portta in everyday:)
Better graphics, better deinterlacing & much better built along with more support to play more systems thanks to it having RGB SCART & VGA along with Component:)
Also there's less image lag & the image itself is far better on OSSC:)
The Portta might be a good start to get back into retro gaming but a much better option would be the Retrotink 2x, the Retroscaler 2x, a RAD2X cable or even emulation :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay In the comparisons you made, it looked better on ps2 with portta than with ossc
The OSSC was much better, admittedly it was using Passthrough mode so it may have not been as sharp at the time but it has a 4x mode which would blow the portta away & it has much better 480p support:)
If you also look carefully the portta has PS2 image errors unlike the OSSC:)
Hi, hope things are well. It’s appreciated about the walkthrough with these devices. Though is this process with the HD PVR 2, possible with the Portta device using a PSP 2000 model? Even if the quality isn’t as ideal? Thanks.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it :) Unfortunately I've never heard of the HD PVR 2 so I couldn't tell you sadly :o
No problem, it’s perhaps better known as a Hauppauge HD PVR 2. That sound any more familiar?
@btr9160 Ah I think I've heard of it but it's been so long so my knowledge of it now is non existent:o
Think after looking into this, does using the HDMI splitter cable. Ie whatever the type used in the video to get the Portta to work. Would this be the thing needed, in order to connect that, the HD PVR and PSP 2000 together?
@btr9160 Hello mate, ok I actually had a better look into this device since I had no idea what it was xD
From what I saw, it looks if it already has a component cable that you can plug into the device :)
If you wanted to use PSP 2000 on it, just plug the component adapter into it, switch the PSP to video out & it should work :)
However, if you don't have this adapter for your device, unfortunately I cannot say with certainty if using the portta with this device will work, even with a HDMI spittler involved :o
Hopefully you can get it working :)
My porrta looks like Dog Sh*t on my PC monitor any way to fix it? By Dog sh*t I mean like a 8 beers in soupy blurry mess
It depends on what's wrong but remember the Portta is a cheap starter device, it won't be a great looking experience
@@TheAffroShowGameplay well its blurry my guess its lost video fidelity after it takes the 480i/480p and stretches it to 1080. 🤷♂️ I am using retrovision hd component cables hooked up to it. So between $30 for the Porrta upscaler, 30 for HD Retrovision and $20 for freemcboot I'm 80 dollars in and the picture looks horrible
Unfortunately there's not much you can do as the Portta is not the best choice for video upscaling, you are much better off with the OSSC I use, much better for video upscaling :)
I have the porrta and it works fine, but every few seconds the screen flickers, any way to fix this?
A HDMI Splitter might solve your problem :) I had to use one using the Portta and it worked fine afterwards ^^
@@TheAffroShowGameplay thank you I'll give it a go!
@@auteur_al5630 Hope it fixes the issue :)
link to the Portta Component To HDMI
www.amazon.co.uk/Portta-YPbPr-Component-HDMI-Converter/dp/B0088HO1UC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=portta+component+to+hdmi+converter&qid=1620158556&sprefix=portta+c&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFIOVU4SEtPMU5BM0YmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MzI3NTYzN1YzVFVFTFkzUjZUJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNjczOTIzUTlJNFkzSzlFOFZTJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
There you go :)
How does one confirm if his or her tv is compatible with Ossc?
I’m hoping to use with my og Xbox and Sony 900e. Any feedback is appreciated!
It's best too look it up online :)
If not, just make sure the scaler is either set to passthrough mode or 2x mode for best compatibility with TV's or monitors :)
My video called Xbox Flicker Filter on vs off video used the OG Xbox with the OSSC, although progressive scan was not used due to lack of support on PAL systems :)
Ossc + psp ?
Yes the OSSC is great with the PSP 2000 onwards with its video output via component :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay It's great now because the configuration was added in the latest update. It was still windowed prior to this, but Marqs figured it out.
@@voltz15 I think it was great already but I'm glad to hear that & I will definitely look into it again when my unit gets updated ^^
Hi!! Would you say the Porter provides better quality than the smaller PS2 to HDMI dongles you can buy?
Yes definitely, it is far superior over the PS2 To HDMI dongles, those are only composite quality at best & look terrible:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Awesome, thank you! One other question, Portta with a scaler or without? (I do use GSM to force higher resolution via my softmodded ps2)
@@Lalelulilo101 The Portta is an upscaler so it will already upscale the resolution to 1080p but, the higher the internal resolution you feed it the better it will perform:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Ah I was asking cause here in the UK there is 2 versions of the Portta.
Edit: ah one comes with a scaler option the other does not.. which would be best?
Yes the one I have is 1080p or 720p output resolution :) I'm not sure about the other one though :o I'm also from the UK
Is porta good on full wide screen setting? I love Full screen mode in modern tvs.
What music did you use at 1:27 ?
It's from After Burner III for Sega CD:)
I just looked up and listened real quick to the original soundtrack on YT and I didn't find this specific music. What about the music at 16:52 ?
Yeah its an alternative soundtrack so you have to dig to find it, it used to be much easier to find back last year :)
That one is from Racing Lagoon, I use the Racing Lagoon soundtrack frequently in my season 5 uploads :)
hi im back! ok so i got the portta and ive been testing it, one mayor question i have. i can see a faint vertical line pattern when send a 480p signal to the device. it is nothing crazy but is there. i have tried kill switch and urban reign and it is definetly there. on 480i they are not there it looks fine so they only appear when progressive mode is activated. i have done research and this phenomenon is known as the jailbars effect. is this normal on the portta? mind you i have tried the same component cables on a tv with component input and they look amazing on 480p and i have tried the same config on another monitor to rule out that it was the monitor but no. if i feed a 480p to the portta i get jailbars. i have tried the other two devices i have that output 480p thru component the xbox 360 and the wii. i do get jailbars but the pattern is much smaller or less noticable than on the ps2. can you comment about this?? is this an expected phenomenon of the upscale made by the portta? do i have a defective unit? or do i actually need better cables regarding of my current ones working fine on other sets?? now my personal opinion. if think if you have a monitor that only takes 720p or 1080p and you want to spend the least amount of money possible then the portta is maybe your best bet. i dont really like the way ps1 game look and this jailbar on 480p thing is annoying but 480i looks fine... another problem.. on one tv the image did not fit good and on a monitor a hdmi splitter was neccesary for monitor to detect the image of the portta... so year it is a solution but hard to recommend with odv and rad2x out there. pretty much same conclusion as you. hopefully technology improves on this front rapidly at least it looks like it will.
Reguarding the jailbars effect I know 480p on the PS2 can introduce significant dithering so maybe that's what it was & the Portta's sharpening effect may have amplified it although I don't recall seeing jailbars on mine so I cannot be sure :o
I know I use a more up to date 4K samsung TV so I don't know if other TV's or monitors behave differently:o
I needed a HDMI splitter in my footage as the Elgato HD60s Plus won't see the Portta otherwise but it's not a big deal thankfully:)
Unfortunately there's a reason the Portta is a cheap beginners device, once you experience the ODV/retrotink 2x line or in my case the OSSC, the Portta is quickly forgotten :o
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ok i just tested everything again with my two flatmates next to me and i confirm that for the xbox360 and wii i was trying hard to look for flaws but they actually look like they supposed too 480p no vertical bars. but no doubt the ps2 has the vertical line pattern, i have tested several 480p games and they all seem to have it to some degree the lines are thiner or thicker depending on the game. i feel you about the 480p dithering + portta amplifying the patter. i have done some search on internet and i found a guy on the shmups forum and he makes all the observations you make plus the following: "with 480p from a PS2 I get a severe chroma delay (might look better with Cube or XBox)" i can confirm that for me it is the same case...looking for some pictures about chrome delay + ypbpr and the results kind of let me know that it is indeed the problem. another find i have about thet portta is that 3 models exists for the same upscaler. i own model: N3CVRHP, another blue/black one exists: PETRHS and Gold/Black one but i dont have the name for it. so yeah maybe you dont have the same problem. still after all of this. not recomended it was supposed to be good because of the 480p supports but fails at it lol. as you say ODV/retrotink 2x line or OSSC for the win!!
@@trashcan9001 I will say the fact you went so far to confirm all this makes me think you should definitely make videos aha 🤣😁
But yes I also noticed there was more than one version on the Portta so maybe mine has no jailbars but other image errors which I showed in this video & the previous one :o
Yeah, those upscalers along with the RAD2X HDMI cables are so much better & considering the cost, the Portta is subpar at best :o
I still think for 480p & beyond it's still reasonable if you get the right one but if you can, jump up to the other upscalers ^^
@@TheAffroShowGameplay haha! thank you for that. just want the best image possible for my old consoles but the ps2 is a difficult beast!! i own the ODV already so i will save a bit of money and wait a sale for the OSSC and after i try that i will surely come back to talk about it!!. keep on with the quality content i will be watching!! thank you! xD
@@trashcan9001 It definitely is a beast that is hard to tame 🤣 It's worthwhile though I love the console & a decent upscaler makes a big difference ^^
Thank you mate & definitely keep an eye on Wednesday! Got a new video coming up talking about the Sony Official RGB Scart Cable & using it on the PS1, PS2 & PS3 via the OSSC!
Hello, do you have any recommendations for a cheap component to HDMI device for my PS2? I need it to display or convert in a way the 480i(of PS2's menu and some games) for my monitor that supports only progressive resolutions(minimum 480p).
I tried to order a Portta scaler device after I watched your videos and hearing from many sources that its the best for price+quality, unfortunately, the order from Amazon cannot arrive in my city, forcing me to search other alternatives.
From what I learned, to fix this I need a component to HDMI that has a line doubler function, at this point I just want to have the PS2 display everything on my monitor without relying on a chinese HDMI dongle that I currently have(cannot display interlaced resolutions like the 480i) and needs me to navigate blindly until I start a game with progressive scan.
I don't care about the visual quality or any other gimmick(though, would be nice to avoid the bob deinterlacing, the upper shacking/tremble).
Thank you!
Your best bet is to use the RAD2X cables, Retrotink 2x line or the ODV, they are decent value, look good & will allow 480i passthrough or 2x via bob deinterlacing:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ODV seems a great choice for me, price wise. Is it better than Retroscaler2x(someone else suggested this one)? Since their prices are similar.
If you watch my ePSXe vs Real PS1 Hardware video, that used the ODV with component cables for the PS1 footage:)
I would say it's on par with the Retrotink, it's sharp enough & looks good with S-Video or Component ^^
My S-Video vs Composite video also using the ODV shows this off too :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Glad to hear its on par with Retrotink, really nice. I think ODV is the one that I will order soon.
Does it works with GSM on PS2? More like, can it output 720p or 1080p?
does anyone know if portta compoment works on progressive pc monitors?
I don't quite understand what you mean :o
@@TheAffroShowGameplay i used ps2 to hdmi converter and it didnt show anything on my monitor. are these different than ps2 to hdmi?
Ah you may need a HDMI splitter as I did in this video since nothing showed up on my screen at first :) Also make sure your PS2 is set to Component or RGB in the system configuration menu :)
How well does it the original Xbox 480p?
I made a video about the original XBOX in detail with component cables using the OSSC so please check out that video if you want to see the results:)
(I.e it handles it superbly especially at line 2x mode (960p)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay but i just bought the Portta 😅 and want to know how well the portta does 480p for og xbox
Ah that'll be a future video as I was thinking about retesting it against the OSSC but it will look ok, not great xD
If you want my video on that you'll have to wait a while xD
Ossc 👍🏻 portto 🤷🏻♂️ 🤨🤔
Again not everyone can get the OSSC or may not use it for many consoles so the Portta is a decent starting point for many :)
But yes the OSSC is of course better if you can get one :)
being at the top of the retro gamer hill is a lonely spot. 😔
@@robbystrange4772 Ah I just am glad to have the upscalers, I don't worry or care about being ahead of anyone, just glad to put information out there to those who are interested in the upscalers :)