@@sjwhater I mean- So long as the actor for arthas is good and sticks to the script and the feel of Arthas? i woldnt care! arthas rockin the dreads would be nice.
This man has put how the overwhelming majority feel into words about all the series/movies he just mentioned. Unbelievable how many good shows were ruined.
What I love about the Arthas story, is that it isn’t unique in WHAT it is, but HOW it was written. It uses familiar tropes, but they feel believable and not very contrived. Any one of us could have done what he did faced with the same circumstances, and walked the path he did.
Such a compellingly tragic story - the idea that "the right thing" can feel so clear to you: like a mirage of righteousness in dark times... you're so certain that the grim duty is a necessary evil... But the closer you get to fulfilling your goals, the clearer it all becomes and the less you even care. Somewhere along the way you've given everything you wanted to protect - you've torn it all to bits and damned yourself and everyone you love. You've become exactly what you sought to destroy.
Arthas story is kinda Darth Vaders story up tot he point when he turned. Wanted to do good and protect the ones who hge loved but that was his downfall.
@@buttergolem8584 Sure, that’s what we call parallels. Anakin’s story parallels a lot of other tragic heroes before him as well. Though the prequels came out after Warcraft 3, in other words we didn’t know all of Anakin’s story until then. So, I disagree with the notion some say Arthas is an Anakin rip off.
That pure intent was of course as was stated ingame till he picked up the sword. It was then when he lost his soul and himself. Including his desire to protect his homeland and those he loved. He basicly became its own entity. The rest of humanity he had this entity also removed as stated in the book. So you have your stereotypical holy hero. Prince and protector of Lordaeron whos love to his land was abused by a manipulative demon, a absolutely sinnister cult and a tormented spirit in a set of armor. Lured on a path where hed lose all support, and had to make very hard choices. Like lesser evil by culling Stratholme before they overun the entire nation and turn everyone to zombies. But killing his people even if booth out of mercy and nercecity pmus the destruction and mitation of an entire major city populstion. And the demon laughing in your face for it caused him to be consumed by rage and vengence. Then lured in northrend he is purposely put in another orchestred situstion with Frostmourne "conviniently," nearby to safe them all. Only as he was ready to bear qny curse to safe his peopöe he lost that very soul and self that had that good heart and intent. The soulless puppet then becoming self aware and taking over all who tried to use him. And thats how the Lich King Arthas we know and love was born. Only when Frostmourne was shattered and the helm left his head could his soul return as a emotional Arthas asked "Is it over?" I think the gravity of the downfall and outright loss of all you are is what makes this story unique. You have many similar stories bjt they are often more an actual descent like Anakin becoming Vader. Arthas allthou more reckless was still an Anti hero before he picked up Frostmourne. Then it was as if all his hood safe for a tiny bit was stuck in the sword. Afterall why would he gain grey skin and white hair if he never died? Or was never corrupted in any form? Why kill his father? Anakin would have never killed his mother. Or his Kingdom? So id say Arthas was extra tragic. It just bothers me how they suddenly make it look like he did all his dessisions willingly and is fully to blame for everything.
My man, the Warcraft movie perfectly ties into the Lord of the Clans book by Christie Golden. Those who actually read the books, who I talked to, were thrilled abou tthe direction the movie had gone.
People actually don't understand that Arthas' fate is the result of past events. Like how could non initiated people understand who the hell Medivh is and why he is the prophet. Also who Thrall is, who Doomhammer is. Why they have to go yo Kalimdor. And most importantly : Who is Ner Zhul. Kil Jaeden can be introduced easilly in the movie. But these other guys have a huge lore behind them and are major characters in the whole plot. An Arthas movie as a Standalone would have please the warcraft fan base because they have a basic knowledge of the lore, but a person who does not know anything about warcraft would don't understand a shit about the movie.
@@agrume_music I mean Warcraft3’s plot start with Arthas, I’m totally fine with it and found it intriguing when I was first playing it without knowing who’s who. They could’ve pick a better part of the story and do the origins afterwards, this could be way better
@@cloud8639 True, damned if you do damned if you don't. I thought the Warcraft movie was acceptable and that it would have aged into an even better movie had we got more. More movies or TV shows, but as a stand alone film it's kind of fucky.
Dude I’m glad you say this because I thought the movie was BADASS and the writing was GREAT. I knew next to nothing about Warcraft lore or the games but the movie got me reading lore sites and watching lore videos and I love how the movie fit exactly into everything I was reading but wasting NONE of my time with exposition or weird backstory stuff in the movie. I bought it and have watched it many times (I don’t do that often with movies). It’s such a cool story when you think about it. And the tragic character is medivh is 👌. Seriously what an interesting story and again the movie spent ZERO time with lame exposition trying to explain stuff, which is such a rarity in movies
I appreciate that they wanted to shine a light on Warcraft 1 & the First War, but most of us grew up on WC3 and TFT .... A movie about Arthas would absolutely make a killing. Imagine watching Arthas and Illidan dueling in Northrend... man oh man.
Truth be told, if the writers had any gravitas and the script had any kind of cohesion for someone who didn't play all Warcrafts and then moved to WoW, then we could end up having all the stories we wanted be told. The problem is that WC1 had not very many tidbits of lore, WC2 did a bit better and finally with WC3+ we ended up having a full cohesive story. I mean, all we can say for WC1 was "hurr durr orcs from black morass". They tried to expand a bit on that but they should have done it in an organic way and always by being in thrall (pun intended) of the established lore, books, game manuals, game mini texts, what have you. Also also, young whippersnapper, some of us grew on WC1 and WC2 (heck, grew before Blizzard was a thing in the first place :P )
well the original plan was to do a trilogy ending with lich king which, in my mind, makes a lot more sense than going straight with arthas' story. now did they fail with the first movie? sadly yes, and thats why we dont have lich king
That's a bold assumption. I grew up with Warcraft 2 first. I like early warcraft lore, and i don't care that much about late warcraft lore. i definitely prefer thrall's story as opposed to arthas.
@@SatanBla Maybe we should need an animated series about the First and Second Wars (and Thrall's ascension to a Warchief). Arthas' story is already done in games and books.
This reminds me of an interview with the music producer of FF7 Remake. They asked him about how he went about remaking One-Winged Angel (the song when you fight sephiroth for those under a rock) and he answered that it was a very difficult process because he wanted to preserve all the good parts that he loved and made it a masterpiece in the first place, while adding or rearranging parts of it in order to make it distinct from the original. The reverence he had for the source material ended up allowing him to make an amazing recreation while still having all the characteristics of the original, and that is what a lot of western and some eastern teams are missing.
It didn't even have to be Seven-Winged Angel, try the Airbuster version of Those Who Fight Further. Seeing that boss was canonically the first time the boss theme played in the original it preserved a lot of the key notes but elevated them to be as grandiose as possible.
That's a problem we have here in the west, most people, specially young ones. Despise tradition, they "rebel" to nothing just for the sake of taking an opposite side to some aspect of the live they think is unfair not acknowledging that life is unfair to all in one way or another. They want it all and end up with nothing.
this is why Edgerunners and Arcane are so good, they take the source material seriously. Edgerunners even uses backdrops that look like they are straight from the game and also has the original voiceactors for some characters in it. Those two are a perfect example on how you adapt a video game into a series/movie. I liked the Warcraft movie regardless but man, it couldve been so insanely good, its a shame.
@@Krigzulv The fall of Arthas is Warcraft 3 material, so it would be valid material for a Warcraft movie. They just need to dip into WOTLK for the conclusion.
People need to understand the huge difference between "Warcraft" and "World of Warcraft". People who disliked the movie were expecting a WORLD OF WARCRAFT movie and not a Warcraft: Orcs and Humans movie based on the 1994 real time strategy old PC game....
To be fair making a 3 minute long cinematic and perfecting and polishing it to absolute god tier quality. Is extremely expensive and time consuming. A 120 minute long movie would have to be dumbed down. Avatar movies cost over a billion to make for this reason. But asmon is 100% right, i would of loved a wrath of the lich king movie mo matter the quality of graphics as long as its a goos movie
At this point it would be like asking for Disney to remake the original star wars, or try their hand at old republic. Nope, they gonna just shit all over your expectations.
After reading the Arthas novel when it released years ago and then hearing about the movie in development I wanted so badly for it to be based on that novel
@@hx9801 it was the first Warcraft novel I had ever read and what got me to read every other one that was available, as well as future releases, but 100% it was and still is the best
a movie Trilogy about the Rise and Fall of the lich king done right without any real world influence or woke bullshit would be in the top best trilogies of all time. its crazy how Blizzard haven't made it yet, the lore is already there to be adapted into an epic screening. imagine watching Arthas vs Ilidan with amazing CGI and fighting coreography on the big screen for like 10 min. or seeing the siege of silvermoon. it would be Blizzard's easiest moneymaker of their life
Except it isn’t as easily written as you’d imagine. They absolutely would have to add characters and flesh out the story. The first example that comes to mind is the final fight encounter with Arthas. Do you write it as a group or 25 idiots taking out every enemy in ICC? That fight is they’d need to have a small group of lore characters approach him and Tirion fighting Arthas 1v1. Go ahead and try to write a script for it.
Well I agree with you that done well it would have a lot of praise The animation and CGI budget for that would be way more than they be willing to spend unless you’re forcing people from Asia to earn less than a dollar a hour A standard 30 minutes animated show costs hundreds of thousands of dollars Some of the biggest anime Show and movies have budgets in the hundreds of millions I feel trilogy with the quality that we would want could easily cost over $1 billion and if everyone’s getting paid a fair wage it would be more than that
@@BrandonWestfall Its have been done A LOT. Go and read the alternative POV fanfics some people have done about. It leaves Blizzard story team as an embarassmemt. No dont go making excuses for egotistical and j_wish Hollywood producers,Brandon.
@@JRBDWD The problem is you enjoy those stories in that writing because you enjoy the game and sorry to burst your bubble but you need general audiences to go see your film for it to make money blizzard and probably now Microsoft are not going to spend millions on a film for the people who play World of Warcraft they wanna make money and the war craft community isn’t big enough to make it successful sadly that’s just the way it is
I think Peter Jackson did it perfectly in the LOTR trilogy. He stayed true to the source material and we remember him for how well and creatively he manged to convert books into movies.
He just took out Tom Bombadil wich is totally fine because it was a distraction from the main story and the movie would be like 6 hour long. He swaped Glorfindel for Arwen which was NOT cool at all. But you get to see more about Arwen and Aragorn's romance which makes kind of sense. But overall Peter Jackson did an amazing job with the books trilogy including the extended versions.
@@betorockmetal This kind of things is what i meant by "convert". You cant make book into movie 1:1 mainly because they are different media and appeal to different senses, but also storywise. You have a limited timeframe and have to make it as useful and enjoyable as possible.
@@betorockmetal in the second chase i think he didnt manage to find an actor for glorfinder makes sense the elf is a literal god nobody can play him 😅 they were so lucky with galadriel, look at rings of power how the butchered the elves you need really compelling actors to play most of them let alone the few that stand above all
The standstill at the frozen roof of the world, with ice in the background extending as far as you can see, snow drifting downwards that's just oppressive enough to darken the sky and the mood without significantly obscuring the view, a howling wind blowing their hair and cloth/chains would create a mood that highlights the completely frigid inhospitable nature of the setting and desperation of the conflict. Then execute it with lithe footwork and acrobatics from illidan and the crunching strength and blows from Arthas and you have a fight scene that will be remembered basically forever.
A story like Arthas needs to be a series not a movie. Season 1: Before he becomes Lich King. Season 2: Becoming the Lich King. Season 3: Fall of the Lich King.
@@TNTspaz They could also literally end the series/movie trilogy with a cliffhanger by making it stop at that artpiece shown in the video, or the Lich King looking at the approaching Alliance/Horde forces
I know people would hate me. But I rather have a trilogy to cover till the end of Warcraft 2 Dark Portal. Then have another trilogy based on Warcraft 3 events, mainly following Arthas.
With what's currently happening with the Witcher series, i love this clip (Some Witcher series writer just said they hated the books/games and that's probably why they changed so many things that made the series awful
Why in the ever loving fuck are people hiring content writers that HATE THE FUCKING CONTENT. Like holy shit... The pure incompetent stupidity somehow keeps one upping itself.
Because they fired, insulted or pissed off all the people with talent or in the best case simply prevent them from having a say/power. I mean a little I understand, if you don't do some woke shit these days you get instant death threats and insults, demands for boycott and such. Cause you know these people are so nice and inclusive peace lovers.
The orcs are good way to explain all of it and doomhammer conflict to conquer all of the eastern kingdoms,the characters betrayal with in the hord and the defeat of blackhand
@@TNTspaz and to see ogrim dommhammer been taken to lordaeron capital city with all the chains and then to see him esape and found thrall and give him his suit near his death,even more of badass
Henry Cavill loves WoW. He's also a guy who wants respect in adaptation, that's why he left the Witcher series, because they were ruining the show by disrespecting the original books and the universe. I think he would make a great Arthas and it would be interesting to see him play that hero falling to the "dark side". He would really put a lot of love in the job. But we would need a real director for that trilogy, not a basic hollywood yes-man. Because i really think such a project could be the new "lotr" cinema trilogy that we need, but the hands of the wrong person, it can be a disaster.
A trilogy of Arthas is like a no brainer to me. Part 1 could be childhood + adulthood until he becomes a full realized paladin. Part 2 could dive into the moral ambiguity of when you are going too far for the greater good and ending the movie with the Culling of Strathome. Part 3 would be about the Northrend campaign and how Arthas gradualy isolates himself and ultimately loses his mind when killing Malganis. The movie and trilogy ends with a recreation of the WC3 cinematic of him killing the king and destroying Lortheron. And Henry Cavill as Arthas please. The guy almost lost an audition because he was too busy wow raiding ffs. If anyone can makes Arthas justice is him.
The second Warcraft film should be about Arthas, Uther and Jaina. It should include the Scourge, Strathlome, etc. It should also end with Arthas ascending the throne and placing the Helm on his head. The third film should start with Arthas waking up on the throne, just like in the original wrath trailer. I want to see some death knight stuff with Darion, Wrathgate etc. The ending fight should be Arthas and Tirion 1v1'ing on top of Icecrown. Now that, is how it's done.
Bro. They aren't done with warcraft 2. Then again they fucked it up anyway. Lothar never even meets Blackhand ffs. Doomhammer kills him and takes control of the horde and severs ties with Gul'dan and his warlocks.
i dont think a movie spanning from the awakening of arthas to his death would not do the source material justice, i also believe that the plot would feel EXTREMELY bad in terms of pacing as there is just too much to tell
the reason they do this is they wont get as much credit if they just adapt a previously written story to the silver screen, so even if they think it will be more of a success to just make an adaptation, they will choose to do thier own thing so they can hog all the glory.
@@TNTspaz Game of thrones was awesome. only complaint really was the last season and even then people exagerrate how bad it was. I was mostly sad that the dragons died
Wich is the point. Roughly to Season six i think all just followed the books for the most part. It still missed some awesome characters amd some story arcs but it was a great show because its safe to say that George R. R. Martin is one of the greatest Authors brcause he easily build a gigantic diverse world and cast. As even side characters were fully fleshed out and all had important roles. All contribiute to the overall world and story. When the Directors were left to their own devices they started teleporting,, ignoring consequences and so on. Just madness for the sake of action.
yeah I said the same thing I don't know why they didn't just do full CGI for the movie. They have one of the best editing teams in the world and have since day one. Most of their short videos in old games still look amazing.
Nah, 10 episodes is rly not enough. It might be for us who know and care already about the characters, but in general 10 episodes are almost never enough to establish a bond
you have cinematic of warcraft 1 to wotlk if you want to see the rise and the down of arthas. What pleasure to have to see it again ? "You have the most easiest job" are you kidding ?
100% agree. I don't know why they can't seem to just remake an existing game sotry into a movie. The people who played the game will 100% watch it even though we know what will happen, and the people who didn't play it are in for a treat!!!
The warcraft movie is based on the lore in the earlier warcraft games, which most people haven't played and don't really have a connection to like the Arthas story from WC3. They started their movie franchise at the beginning and probably hoped to get to an Arthas movie eventually, but the first one wasnt successful enough to warrant sequels I guess.
the thing is Even people who know the lore of wc1 were diaappointed. hell they changed Garona from a half orc half draenei to a half orc half human despite the fact that orcs came through the dark portal 5 minutes ago. They made Llane die at the dark portal for who knows what reason, Blackhand got killed by Lothar for who knows what reason, Durotan got killed by Gul'dan for who knows what reason. They chose to not appease either fans or non-fans because people unfamiliar to wow had no idea who most of the characters were, and the people who did were like "wait this is different in the lore". What they did with the movie is like imagining if Instead of Arthas doing the Culling of Stratholme, he was framed for it by the true mastermind Muradin Bronzebeard who secretly hates the humans and leads Arthas to Frostmourne so he ruins the human kingdoms so Ironforge may take over.
wich was a stupid idea. they could have started with arthas and then see how they go from there. maybe ppl wouldnt mind a precuel if the first thing was good but they did warcraft dirty and ppl prob lost faith and so did they
A movie dedicated just to Arthas would be as big as the lord of the rings in my opinion. It is such a fascinating story of a young prince who had to make some incredibly hard decisions which ultimately led to his own demise. You cannot go wrong with that, ever.
If the story of Arthas was adapted, odds are the people writing would completely miss the point: They'd probably would make him cartoonishly short-sighted, arrogant, narcissistic, selfish, and practically evil from the start; when he was driven by selflessness to a fault. They'd probably make Arthas gleeful at finding Frostmourne as well. Course in my head ideally the first movie would frame Arthas as the hero even till the last scene, with him being welcomed home as the Hero who avenged his people and destroyed the demon at the source of the scourge. The post-credit scene would be him walking up to the throne room and kneeling to his father, but cutting out the part where he kills him so that people who do not know the story will think the first arc was played completely straight till the next movie.
I agree. I don't ttudt the current modern writers to adapt the tale of a "Straight white male" Hero. Not the emotional complexity he embodies to love your people so much youd do ANYTHING to safe them. A selfless but ultimately unexpirienced young hot headed prince thrown in a unknown, sudden and apocalyptic crisis. Forced to make hard dessisions while also being led on to ultimately pick up the sword, lose his soul and humanity. And thus becomming a pawn. Especially looking at things like Rings of Power id fear for them ruining it all.
No idea why this just showed up in my feed, but holy crap what a bad take. lmao. He even randomly mentions Star Wars like that is some kind of video game adaptation. Let me just say thank god for good writers, I love Arcane and Edgerunners.
Not really though? Most characters from the movie didn't exist when Warcraft 1 was a thing. Medivh, King Llane, Garona, Lothar, sure. Most of the other characters like Durotar, Khadgar, Orgrim, Gul'dan simply didn't exist (yet). Retroactively they now exist, yes, but "contemporarily" they didn't :)
Resident evil has racoon city, the coolest fucking zombie event in any fucking franchise EVER. Hands down inarguably the best.....never gets a movie of it..... TV series? Nope, they made that about random girls in the future. Movie? They made a totally different character and made a really good movie about it, over 20 years ago and only 1 movie from 1 perspective about a massive 4 month long milkable event. Resident evil should be on their 10th movie, going harder than fast and the furious. Resident evil 1's mansion is a big enough event for an entire movie.
This is ignorant coming from a fan. Duncan Jones took 99% of the lore from the books including Rise of the Horde which is cannon. I know cause I read it. It was just poorly executed cuz the dialogue was terrible, humans look was off and it wasn't cool enough except the orcs.
I actually wish only for Alliance characters to be 3D too. They are too small in those plates. LOTR did it well with sizes, but WC makers just did not have Peter Jackson to do it right. They would be able to pull off 3D for sure. Orcs were AMAZING.
I would love a Arthas Netflix series And during the Culling of Stratholme, there's an easter egg where 5 random human adventureres/soldiers who stand out above the rest and apear out of nowhere. And the whole time they make subtle references to the future without meaning to, and mysterisouly talk about horde stuff like "Lok'Tar Og- uuugh- For Lorderon!!!", as a little easter egg to the Culling of Stratholme dungeon and the 5 players travelling back in time to help Arthas and getting shape-shifted into being human.
I feel like to properly tell the Arthas story, from when he purged strat to when he died on Icecrown. Would take like, 4 or 5 movies worth. I guess it depends on how many main characters you have and from how many points of view. But you'd have to do it from Arthas PoV, Thrall PoV, Malfurion Tyrande and Illidan PoV, Tirion PoV, Varian PoV. and that's a lot of PoVs to cover in a movie. Honestly think this story would be better suited for an HBO max TV series that could cover all this and that would last for 3 to 4 seasons. Then if it's a highly watched/rated show they could go to Deathwing. Idk. just my opinion
i mean if you include all the lore in lore of the rings, it would be alot more movies then 3, so i think making warcraft into 3 movies is feasible. you need a guy like peter jacksson tho to make it great.
@@meta3323 aa yea , also i think extended was like closer to 3 hours per movie ? i think ^^ but ye normal length you would need more. tho if they made it, i think it would be best to make it longer.
I think I saw a leak a few years ago of a Warcraft 2 movie titled "Rise of the Lich King", I really hope that's what they're going for but it's been too many years that I don't think there will be another Warcraft movie.
Warcraft movie wasn't bad and I watched it multiple times, but for sure it was not high quality overall and there are many stories in WoW lore much more interesting.
Movie 1: Arthas' childhood recap and the events of WC3 ending with finding Frost Mourne. Movie 2: Arthas' DK campaign, ending with ascending the frozen throne. Movie 3: Events of Wotlk from his view.
That more sounds super greedy to make as much money as possible, you know like those fuckers who take a book that is barely enough for 1 movie and make 2-3 out of it... You got enough story when you do Arthas -> Lich King in one movie. And then another with his fall - what should include his fate when he was condemned by his teacher he had murdered - and end as a weapon himself. Should not even go to the point in which the last bit of his soul fades, because at this point he's alread gone anyway, as it was said, it's just a last fragment and flicker of his spiriti, not himself and it's the story of other peopel, even though interlinked, but the way there would too complex to just squeeze in. For Arthas his story ends when he is grabbed by his former teacher, now an angel of death and just thrown in (hateful?) revenge into hell, where he is tortured to death and forged into a blade. That would work well as movie, because you would have those two blades. One which started his story and downfall - and one that makes his end. Even for people who don't know the whole background it would be obvious enough, especially since you would need Nerzhul somewhere in the first part and should show how he was also forged into a weapon. You could add Zovaal to it when Kingsmourne is forged, that he won't make the mistake his minions did, by letting any own will alive in the blade... It's the best Arthas can hope for after all he had done, to be seen as a victim, too , beside being an HItler of the Undead.
It would at the least have to be a two parter. With it starting in art has early life to meeting Jaina to establish the love interest then the culling of stratholme to close it out. Then the next one is his his descent into madness and what leads to his death. If there was a third they probably wouldn’t do well. Honestly would be great as a series and they’d definitely make their money back off of it. Season one basically what I said for the first movie. Using more time to build characters and shit. Then the tragedy of the second season to make you feel bad for everyone that loved him. Would probably garner a new fan base for people that like joker esque characters
Arthas is literally Wow's Sauron, i don't get why they choose to make the story of Durotan instead. They can always go back in time after that just like the Hobbit.
Uh, no, he's not at all. What got Arthas in common with Sauron? Arthas is more like a Ring Ghost. A human who fell for a higher power, got corrupted and is now going after the living. Sauron would never have a moment like "Is it over, father?" because all he did was 100% his own choice and goal. Arthas is a kid who was unlucky and weak enough to fall for temptation and manipulation, leading him onto a path of (self)destruction. Overall: that makes him more interesting than Sauron - or such fucked up Super HItler shit like Hydaelyn in FF14.
I always thought that a Warcraft Movie could have had a unique twist and write the story from both Human and Orc / Alliance and Horde perspectives covering the same overall story but as two movies with a simultaneous release. The parts where the sides battle each other or work hand in hand can be the same actual scenes but just from different perspectives as well. So Warcraft: Humans and Warcraft: Orcs would both be playing at the same times in the same theater next to each other. It would work perfectly with the overall themes that there are good and evil actors among all the races
@@PentaHousen Just distribution costs really. They made an overly bloated movie to begin with because they tried to cram so much into a single movie. They could have essentially done much of the same but divided it out and fleshed things out better with a more central focus on each side. It makes for a more focused protagonist and antagonist, and even gives the opportunity to show how that is viewed from each side
I think that the Troll War would be way more interesting personnally. Uniting humanity, working with other races, a beautiful sacrifice and a big boom of fire to end it all. Would do great on the big screen. Plus not everyone know this story unlike Anakin Menethil vs Uther Kenobi
As someone new to the whole universe and WoW this December I appreciated them starting at the beginning, since I didn’t even know why the alliance and horde were fighting. I rate the movie 👏
To be fair, the writers for GoT did stick pretty close to the established writing, but only up to the point where there was writing. The mistake with GoT was threefold: They should've waited for George R. R. Martin to finish writing the damn thing to begin with. That was the first mistake. The second mistake was continuing past the finished works that Martin had put out. They should've put the whole damn thing on hold, or better yet, refer back to mistake #1. Their third mistake was trying to rush the end of the series so they could work on other projects instead. Never rush anything, especially if you're trying to land a new gig afterwards (star wars). They ended up ruining GoT for everyone, and lost out on their aims of going over to write for Disney's Star Wars. The latter im not sure if thats a good or a bad thing considering Disney's track record has only one win (at the time), and its Rogue One, which retconned Kyle Katarn lmao...
Tbh I love the original events during Rise of the Horde. The movie just didn't tell it very well. I remember it literally expected you to know everything leading up to the invasion of Azeroth and explained nothing. Then we got like maybe 4% accuracy going forward. We should have gotten maybe a mini series. The events on Draenor from the beginning with Nerzhul. The invasion of Azeroth with the horde and the sacking of SW. The SW survivors fleeing to the Eastern Kingdoms and forming a new alliance against the desperate onslaught. Horde arrives on eastern kingdom shores and a massive and brutal battle is fought. Orgrim Doomhammer smashes Uther the Lightbringer's head in and the Alliance barely prevails. It's epic stuff.
The issue is that for some reason the studio don't want to continue with the Warcraft movies. The director does, many of the actors did want to as well. The movie made alot of money, just not in the US. It was a huuuuge hit in China. Absolutely, huge. It made 439 mil dollars and cost 160 mil to make. That's not a break even movie that is a successful movie. Warcraft was fine for what it was. It was WC 1, could have beutifully lead into WC2. You had Doomhammer, Gul'dan, Garona, Lothar and Khadgar well established after the first movie. You had backstories now, it would have been easy to continue and make a second one with hints of a scourge towards the end, end credits on grainboxes with the Lordareon seal tinted green and a sound of a buzz as they are being loaded off a cart, have a third one with basically WC3 but more focused on the lich king stuff and end with Arthas ascending the Icecrown Citadel, then have a final movie about his downfall. Could have even stretched it for an additional movie with all the stuff around WC3 and TFT etc. We could have been well into it. But noooo
A true to lore Arthas story would absolutely kill it in the theaters.
Lol they would make Arthas black or gay for sure xD
Arthas story is amazing to us WoW fans but to the casual viewer its just a rehash of Sauron with ghouls, zombies and swords instead of Orcs and rings.
Imagine Arthas rockin the dreads 😂🤣💀
@@sjwhater probably
@@sjwhater I mean- So long as the actor for arthas is good and sticks to the script and the feel of Arthas? i woldnt care! arthas rockin the dreads would be nice.
I would pay big money to see an Arthas movie, that would be so fucking cool man
starring Arthas Menethil, now as trans, female, gay. AND BLACK, i can't wait 🤣
Live Action or CGI like the WoW Intro Movies?
Yes imagine it in IMAX
@@levi_shutup5060 have you seen a movie or show recently?
I'd rather a series
This man has put how the overwhelming majority feel into words about all the series/movies he just mentioned. Unbelievable how many good shows were ruined.
People love remakes/remasters. Don’t lose hope.
Woke ass agendas and inflated egos are a hell of a drug!
What I love about the Arthas story, is that it isn’t unique in WHAT it is, but HOW it was written.
It uses familiar tropes, but they feel believable and not very contrived. Any one of us could have done what he did faced with the same circumstances, and walked the path he did.
Such a compellingly tragic story - the idea that "the right thing" can feel so clear to you: like a mirage of righteousness in dark times... you're so certain that the grim duty is a necessary evil... But the closer you get to fulfilling your goals, the clearer it all becomes and the less you even care. Somewhere along the way you've given everything you wanted to protect - you've torn it all to bits and damned yourself and everyone you love. You've become exactly what you sought to destroy.
Arthas story is kinda Darth Vaders story up tot he point when he turned. Wanted to do good and protect the ones who hge loved but that was his downfall.
@@buttergolem8584 Sure, that’s what we call parallels. Anakin’s story parallels a lot of other tragic heroes before him as well.
Though the prequels came out after Warcraft 3, in other words we didn’t know all of Anakin’s story until then. So, I disagree with the notion some say Arthas is an Anakin rip off.
@@asherzstuff9033 Oh no, not a ripoff. Just one tragic hero.
That pure intent was of course as was stated ingame till he picked up the sword.
It was then when he lost his soul and himself. Including his desire to protect his homeland and those he loved.
He basicly became its own entity. The rest of humanity he had this entity also removed as stated in the book.
So you have your stereotypical holy hero. Prince and protector of Lordaeron whos love to his land was abused by a manipulative demon, a absolutely sinnister cult and a tormented spirit in a set of armor.
Lured on a path where hed lose all support, and had to make very hard choices. Like lesser evil by culling Stratholme before they overun the entire nation and turn everyone to zombies.
But killing his people even if booth out of mercy and nercecity pmus the destruction and mitation of an entire major city populstion. And the demon laughing in your face for it caused him to be consumed by rage and vengence.
Then lured in northrend he is purposely put in another orchestred situstion with Frostmourne "conviniently," nearby to safe them all.
Only as he was ready to bear qny curse to safe his peopöe he lost that very soul and self that had that good heart and intent.
The soulless puppet then becoming self aware and taking over all who tried to use him. And thats how the Lich King Arthas we know and love was born.
Only when Frostmourne was shattered and the helm left his head could his soul return as a emotional Arthas asked "Is it over?"
I think the gravity of the downfall and outright loss of all you are is what makes this story unique.
You have many similar stories bjt they are often more an actual descent like Anakin becoming Vader.
Arthas allthou more reckless was still an Anti hero before he picked up Frostmourne. Then it was as if all his hood safe for a tiny bit was stuck in the sword.
Afterall why would he gain grey skin and white hair if he never died? Or was never corrupted in any form? Why kill his father? Anakin would have never killed his mother.
Or his Kingdom? So id say Arthas was extra tragic.
It just bothers me how they suddenly make it look like he did all his dessisions willingly and is fully to blame for everything.
My man, the Warcraft movie perfectly ties into the Lord of the Clans book by Christie Golden. Those who actually read the books, who I talked to, were thrilled abou tthe direction the movie had gone.
Thank you atleast someone appreciates it here.. I loved the movie and how they introduced the world..of Warcraft
People actually don't understand that Arthas' fate is the result of past events.
Like how could non initiated people understand who the hell Medivh is and why he is the prophet. Also who Thrall is, who Doomhammer is. Why they have to go yo Kalimdor.
And most importantly : Who is Ner Zhul.
Kil Jaeden can be introduced easilly in the movie.
But these other guys have a huge lore behind them and are major characters in the whole plot.
An Arthas movie as a Standalone would have please the warcraft fan base because they have a basic knowledge of the lore, but a person who does not know anything about warcraft would don't understand a shit about the movie.
@@agrume_music I mean Warcraft3’s plot start with Arthas, I’m totally fine with it and found it intriguing when I was first playing it without knowing who’s who. They could’ve pick a better part of the story and do the origins afterwards, this could be way better
@@cloud8639 True, damned if you do damned if you don't. I thought the Warcraft movie was acceptable and that it would have aged into an even better movie had we got more. More movies or TV shows, but as a stand alone film it's kind of fucky.
Dude I’m glad you say this because I thought the movie was BADASS and the writing was GREAT. I knew next to nothing about Warcraft lore or the games but the movie got me reading lore sites and watching lore videos and I love how the movie fit exactly into everything I was reading but wasting NONE of my time with exposition or weird backstory stuff in the movie. I bought it and have watched it many times (I don’t do that often with movies). It’s such a cool story when you think about it. And the tragic character is medivh is 👌. Seriously what an interesting story and again the movie spent ZERO time with lame exposition trying to explain stuff, which is such a rarity in movies
I appreciate that they wanted to shine a light on Warcraft 1 & the First War, but most of us grew up on WC3 and TFT .... A movie about Arthas would absolutely make a killing. Imagine watching Arthas and Illidan dueling in Northrend... man oh man.
Truth be told, if the writers had any gravitas and the script had any kind of cohesion for someone who didn't play all Warcrafts and then moved to WoW, then we could end up having all the stories we wanted be told. The problem is that WC1 had not very many tidbits of lore, WC2 did a bit better and finally with WC3+ we ended up having a full cohesive story. I mean, all we can say for WC1 was "hurr durr orcs from black morass". They tried to expand a bit on that but they should have done it in an organic way and always by being in thrall (pun intended) of the established lore, books, game manuals, game mini texts, what have you.
Also also, young whippersnapper, some of us grew on WC1 and WC2 (heck, grew before Blizzard was a thing in the first place :P )
well the original plan was to do a trilogy ending with lich king which, in my mind, makes a lot more sense than going straight with arthas' story. now did they fail with the first movie? sadly yes, and thats why we dont have lich king
Well they did a poor job shining light on it. Lothar never met Blackhand. And he sure as hell would not have been offered a Mak'Gora at that point.
That's a bold assumption. I grew up with Warcraft 2 first.
I like early warcraft lore, and i don't care that much about late warcraft lore. i definitely prefer thrall's story as opposed to arthas.
@@SatanBla Maybe we should need an animated series about the First and Second Wars (and Thrall's ascension to a Warchief). Arthas' story is already done in games and books.
She-Hulk is the ultimate example of ego because the writers literally wrote themselves into the show lmao
This reminds me of an interview with the music producer of FF7 Remake. They asked him about how he went about remaking One-Winged Angel (the song when you fight sephiroth for those under a rock) and he answered that it was a very difficult process because he wanted to preserve all the good parts that he loved and made it a masterpiece in the first place, while adding or rearranging parts of it in order to make it distinct from the original. The reverence he had for the source material ended up allowing him to make an amazing recreation while still having all the characteristics of the original, and that is what a lot of western and some eastern teams are missing.
One winged Angel?
It didn't even have to be Seven-Winged Angel, try the Airbuster version of Those Who Fight Further. Seeing that boss was canonically the first time the boss theme played in the original it preserved a lot of the key notes but elevated them to be as grandiose as possible.
Seven winged angel… *facepalm*
That's a problem we have here in the west, most people, specially young ones. Despise tradition, they "rebel" to nothing just for the sake of taking an opposite side to some aspect of the live they think is unfair not acknowledging that life is unfair to all in one way or another.
They want it all and end up with nothing.
The real masterpiece is One-Winged Kong
If they did a 3 part Arthas trilogy that looked like the cinematics I would forgive them for Shadowlands
haahahaha man this is good :D nice one
what about BfA?
Sure I can say I forgive this or that but I wouldn't play retail anyway.
this is why Edgerunners and Arcane are so good, they take the source material seriously. Edgerunners even uses backdrops that look like they are straight from the game and also has the original voiceactors for some characters in it. Those two are a perfect example on how you adapt a video game into a series/movie.
I liked the Warcraft movie regardless but man, it couldve been so insanely good, its a shame.
Wait a minute, didn't edgerunners come out before the game..?
@@PherPhur no Edgerunners came after the game. Some locations are even exact recreations of the Areas in the game
We need a Warcraft Movie.... Classic 😆
NO CHANGES
@@JohnYoo39 😂😂😂
It was Warcraft. Not world of Warcraft.
@@Krigzulv The fall of Arthas is Warcraft 3 material, so it would be valid material for a Warcraft movie. They just need to dip into WOTLK for the conclusion.
People need to understand the huge difference between "Warcraft" and "World of Warcraft".
People who disliked the movie were expecting a WORLD OF WARCRAFT movie and not a Warcraft: Orcs and Humans movie based on the 1994 real time strategy old PC game....
Its Blizzard policy : "If it's fun and everyone love it, then don't do it."
spot on, it ain't even funny
Imagine making some of the best cinematics in gaming and you decide not to do that for your movie
To be fair making a 3 minute long cinematic and perfecting and polishing it to absolute god tier quality. Is extremely expensive and time consuming. A 120 minute long movie would have to be dumbed down. Avatar movies cost over a billion to make for this reason.
But asmon is 100% right, i would of loved a wrath of the lich king movie mo matter the quality of graphics as long as its a goos movie
Arthas, my son... how epic would it be to hear that in a movie theater
At this point it would be like asking for Disney to remake the original star wars, or try their hand at old republic. Nope, they gonna just shit all over your expectations.
3 part films of the lich king is needed.
the rise, the wrath, the fall 🙏
I liked that they started with the very first war from the original game. It’s a shame we didn’t get more though.
After reading the Arthas novel when it released years ago and then hearing about the movie in development I wanted so badly for it to be based on that novel
still the best out of all the warcraft novels
@@hx9801 it was the first Warcraft novel I had ever read and what got me to read every other one that was available, as well as future releases, but 100% it was and still is the best
Arthas played by Henry Cavill would have been bad ass.
Or Varian Wrynn, just imagine
a movie Trilogy about the Rise and Fall of the lich king done right without any real world influence or woke bullshit would be in the top best trilogies of all time. its crazy how Blizzard haven't made it yet, the lore is already there to be adapted into an epic screening. imagine watching Arthas vs Ilidan with amazing CGI and fighting coreography on the big screen for like 10 min. or seeing the siege of silvermoon. it would be Blizzard's easiest moneymaker of their life
but then how are they going to push THE MESSAGE and whine about raicists when it flops?
Except it isn’t as easily written as you’d imagine.
They absolutely would have to add characters and flesh out the story.
The first example that comes to mind is the final fight encounter with Arthas. Do you write it as a group or 25 idiots taking out every enemy in ICC?
That fight is they’d need to have a small group of lore characters approach him and Tirion fighting Arthas 1v1.
Go ahead and try to write a script for it.
Well I agree with you that done well it would have a lot of praise The animation and CGI budget for that would be way more than they be willing to spend unless you’re forcing people from Asia to earn less than a dollar a hour A standard 30 minutes animated show costs hundreds of thousands of dollars Some of the biggest anime Show and movies have budgets in the hundreds of millions I feel trilogy with the quality that we would want could easily cost over $1 billion and if everyone’s getting paid a fair wage it would be more than that
@@BrandonWestfall Its have been done A LOT. Go and read the alternative POV fanfics some people have done about. It leaves Blizzard story team as an embarassmemt. No dont go making excuses for egotistical and j_wish Hollywood producers,Brandon.
@@JRBDWD The problem is you enjoy those stories in that writing because you enjoy the game and sorry to burst your bubble but you need general audiences to go see your film for it to make money blizzard and probably now Microsoft are not going to spend millions on a film for the people who play World of Warcraft they wanna make money and the war craft community isn’t big enough to make it successful sadly that’s just the way it is
I think Peter Jackson did it perfectly in the LOTR trilogy. He stayed true to the source material and we remember him for how well and creatively he manged to convert books into movies.
He just took out Tom Bombadil wich is totally fine because it was a distraction from the main story and the movie would be like 6 hour long.
He swaped Glorfindel for Arwen which was NOT cool at all. But you get to see more about Arwen and Aragorn's romance which makes kind of sense. But overall Peter Jackson did an amazing job with the books trilogy including the extended versions.
@@betorockmetal This kind of things is what i meant by "convert". You cant make book into movie 1:1 mainly because they are different media and appeal to different senses, but also storywise. You have a limited timeframe and have to make it as useful and enjoyable as possible.
@@betorockmetal in the second chase i think he didnt manage to find an actor for glorfinder makes sense the elf is a literal god nobody can play him 😅 they were so lucky with galadriel, look at rings of power how the butchered the elves you need really compelling actors to play most of them let alone the few that stand above all
ELVES AT HELM'S DEEP?!?!?
Imagine seeing the Arthas vs Illidan fight at the end of the second movie 😱
Illidan played by Taylor Lautner lol
The standstill at the frozen roof of the world, with ice in the background extending as far as you can see, snow drifting downwards that's just oppressive enough to darken the sky and the mood without significantly obscuring the view, a howling wind blowing their hair and cloth/chains would create a mood that highlights the completely frigid inhospitable nature of the setting and desperation of the conflict. Then execute it with lithe footwork and acrobatics from illidan and the crunching strength and blows from Arthas and you have a fight scene that will be remembered basically forever.
Arthas story could have been a Shakespearian epic!
A story like Arthas needs to be a series not a movie.
Season 1: Before he becomes Lich King.
Season 2: Becoming the Lich King.
Season 3: Fall of the Lich King.
That's exactly what asmon said wasn't it? He said "trilogy".
@@omppu3487 I dunno, I'm at work so i didn't watch this with sound. Thought it was a fanmade movie he reacted to or something.
@@TNTspaz They could also literally end the series/movie trilogy with a cliffhanger by making it stop at that artpiece shown in the video, or the Lich King looking at the approaching Alliance/Horde forces
I know people would hate me. But I rather have a trilogy to cover till the end of Warcraft 2 Dark Portal. Then have another trilogy based on Warcraft 3 events, mainly following Arthas.
With what's currently happening with the Witcher series, i love this clip
(Some Witcher series writer just said they hated the books/games and that's probably why they changed so many things that made the series awful
i read that this morning and just saw this clip... 100% true. these writers and their fucking egos ruining all media
Why in the ever loving fuck are people hiring content writers that HATE THE FUCKING CONTENT. Like holy shit... The pure incompetent stupidity somehow keeps one upping itself.
I love Asmongold for pointing out the obvious simple solutions. Why do people always ignore obvious simple solutions?
Because they fired, insulted or pissed off all the people with talent or in the best case simply prevent them from having a say/power.
I mean a little I understand, if you don't do some woke shit these days you get instant death threats and insults, demands for boycott and such. Cause you know these people are so nice and inclusive peace lovers.
I honestly wouldn’t mind having it as a tv show. 1hr long
The orcs are good way to explain all of it and doomhammer conflict to conquer all of the eastern kingdoms,the characters betrayal with in the hord and the defeat of blackhand
@@TNTspaz and to see ogrim dommhammer been taken to lordaeron capital city with all the chains and then to see him esape and found thrall and give him his suit near his death,even more of badass
Henry Cavill loves WoW. He's also a guy who wants respect in adaptation, that's why he left the Witcher series, because they were ruining the show by disrespecting the original books and the universe. I think he would make a great Arthas and it would be interesting to see him play that hero falling to the "dark side". He would really put a lot of love in the job. But we would need a real director for that trilogy, not a basic hollywood yes-man. Because i really think such a project could be the new "lotr" cinema trilogy that we need, but the hands of the wrong person, it can be a disaster.
Honestly, Henry Calvin will immediately fit to play Arthas tbh if they ever make the Warcraft movie about Arthas
If Henry Calvin is anything like Henry Cavill then that movie will be great.
Hell Yeah! Henry Calvin Klein
No fucking way, he is average actor and too bulky
NO. I love Henry but I'm kind of tired of him. Maybeeee uhh fuck idk. Someone younger
Couldn't think of anyone better, especially since he plays wow and his adaptation of Geralt was very well done
I cant stop imagining Henry Cavill as Arthas
A trilogy of Arthas is like a no brainer to me.
Part 1 could be childhood + adulthood until he becomes a full realized paladin.
Part 2 could dive into the moral ambiguity of when you are going too far for the greater good and ending the movie with the Culling of Strathome.
Part 3 would be about the Northrend campaign and how Arthas gradualy isolates himself and ultimately loses his mind when killing Malganis. The movie and trilogy ends with a recreation of the WC3 cinematic of him killing the king and destroying Lortheron.
And Henry Cavill as Arthas please. The guy almost lost an audition because he was too busy wow raiding ffs. If anyone can makes Arthas justice is him.
Arcane pretty much did this and it was the most successful adaptation by far.
The second Warcraft film should be about Arthas, Uther and Jaina. It should include the Scourge, Strathlome, etc. It should also end with Arthas ascending the throne and placing the Helm on his head.
The third film should start with Arthas waking up on the throne, just like in the original wrath trailer. I want to see some death knight stuff with Darion, Wrathgate etc. The ending fight should be Arthas and Tirion 1v1'ing on top of Icecrown.
Now that, is how it's done.
Bro. They aren't done with warcraft 2. Then again they fucked it up anyway. Lothar never even meets Blackhand ffs. Doomhammer kills him and takes control of the horde and severs ties with Gul'dan and his warlocks.
i dont think a movie spanning from the awakening of arthas to his death would not do the source material justice, i also believe that the plot would feel EXTREMELY bad in terms of pacing as there is just too much to tell
Makes no sense to skip the lore of the second game.
@@greyngreyer5 i can live with that shit, just hope they are stupid and simp for a arthas movie before the 2nd story
@@Nasty_Riffs Yeah, I was kinda hoping they just skipped straight to WC3.
they dont make these movies for you nerds ... you will see it regardless... they make it for the masses
the reason they do this is they wont get as much credit if they just adapt a previously written story to the silver screen, so even if they think it will be more of a success to just make an adaptation, they will choose to do thier own thing so they can hog all the glory.
which means the people in charge of the writers should force them to not do that
@@TNTspaz Game of thrones was awesome. only complaint really was the last season and even then people exagerrate how bad it was. I was mostly sad that the dragons died
Wich is the point. Roughly to Season six i think all just followed the books for the most part.
It still missed some awesome characters amd some story arcs but it was a great show because its safe to say that George R. R. Martin is one of the greatest Authors brcause he easily build a gigantic diverse world and cast.
As even side characters were fully fleshed out and all had important roles. All contribiute to the overall world and story.
When the Directors were left to their own devices they started teleporting,, ignoring consequences and so on. Just madness for the sake of action.
Arthas vs Illidan with budget would get me to go to the theatre for the first time in 6 years.
Arthas is basically the Darth Vader story arc. Would love to see it
yeah I said the same thing I don't know why they didn't just do full CGI for the movie. They have one of the best editing teams in the world and have since day one. Most of their short videos in old games still look amazing.
A premium live action (or CGI) WoW streaming series would still be great (if handled well, big if these days).
CGI would cost a fortune
King: what is this? what are you doing, my son?
Arthas: succeding you, father.
The story of Arthas could easily be a 10 episode series
Pretty sure he meant movie trilogy
Nah, 10 episodes is rly not enough. It might be for us who know and care already about the characters, but in general 10 episodes are almost never enough to establish a bond
you have cinematic of warcraft 1 to wotlk if you want to see the rise and the down of arthas. What pleasure to have to see it again ? "You have the most easiest job" are you kidding ?
Asmon being so f'ckin true once again!
100% agree. I don't know why they can't seem to just remake an existing game sotry into a movie. The people who played the game will 100% watch it even though we know what will happen, and the people who didn't play it are in for a treat!!!
The warcraft movie is based on the lore in the earlier warcraft games, which most people haven't played and don't really have a connection to like the Arthas story from WC3. They started their movie franchise at the beginning and probably hoped to get to an Arthas movie eventually, but the first one wasnt successful enough to warrant sequels I guess.
the thing is Even people who know the lore of wc1 were diaappointed. hell they changed Garona from a half orc half draenei to a half orc half human despite the fact that orcs came through the dark portal 5 minutes ago. They made Llane die at the dark portal for who knows what reason, Blackhand got killed by Lothar for who knows what reason, Durotan got killed by Gul'dan for who knows what reason. They chose to not appease either fans or non-fans because people unfamiliar to wow had no idea who most of the characters were, and the people who did were like "wait this is different in the lore".
What they did with the movie is like imagining if Instead of Arthas doing the Culling of Stratholme, he was framed for it by the true mastermind Muradin Bronzebeard who secretly hates the humans and leads Arthas to Frostmourne so he ruins the human kingdoms so Ironforge may take over.
It just was badly written, with script for 10 years old.
@@Crownsnek TRUE!!!
wich was a stupid idea. they could have started with arthas and then see how they go from there. maybe ppl wouldnt mind a precuel if the first thing was good but they did warcraft dirty and ppl prob lost faith and so did they
While I agree that an Lich King movie would have been a better route for the movie I did still enjoy the Warcraft movie we got.
A movie dedicated just to Arthas would be as big as the lord of the rings in my opinion. It is such a fascinating story of a young prince who had to make some incredibly hard decisions which ultimately led to his own demise. You cannot go wrong with that, ever.
we gonna have it soon with how quick text to img/video AI is improving
If the story of Arthas was adapted, odds are the people writing would completely miss the point: They'd probably would make him cartoonishly short-sighted, arrogant, narcissistic, selfish, and practically evil from the start; when he was driven by selflessness to a fault. They'd probably make Arthas gleeful at finding Frostmourne as well.
Course in my head ideally the first movie would frame Arthas as the hero even till the last scene, with him being welcomed home as the Hero who avenged his people and destroyed the demon at the source of the scourge. The post-credit scene would be him walking up to the throne room and kneeling to his father, but cutting out the part where he kills him so that people who do not know the story will think the first arc was played completely straight till the next movie.
I see Invincible episode 1 wrung well with you too, huh? :)
I agree. I don't ttudt the current modern writers to adapt the tale of a "Straight white male" Hero. Not the emotional complexity he embodies to love your people so much youd do ANYTHING to safe them.
A selfless but ultimately unexpirienced young hot headed prince thrown in a unknown, sudden and apocalyptic crisis. Forced to make hard dessisions while also being led on to ultimately pick up the sword, lose his soul and humanity. And thus becomming a pawn.
Especially looking at things like Rings of Power id fear for them ruining it all.
Henry Calvin as Lich King let's go
Personally, I'd also like to see them adapt Ricahrd A Knaak's War of the Ancients trilogy. If they manage to adapt that properly, it could be amazing
Please push for this. Would see in theatres like a dozen times
No idea why this just showed up in my feed, but holy crap what a bad take. lmao. He even randomly mentions Star Wars like that is some kind of video game adaptation. Let me just say thank god for good writers, I love Arcane and Edgerunners.
The Warcraft movie is technically a book adaptation.
0:44
This is exactly what happened to Rings of Power.
They focused on Warcraft 1 rather than Warcraft 3 which is what the contemporary audience is familiar with.
Not really though? Most characters from the movie didn't exist when Warcraft 1 was a thing. Medivh, King Llane, Garona, Lothar, sure. Most of the other characters like Durotar, Khadgar, Orgrim, Gul'dan simply didn't exist (yet).
Retroactively they now exist, yes, but "contemporarily" they didn't :)
that is an amazing picture, immediately using it as my phone wallpaper
All that ice looks slippery asf
hope the lick king doesnt ... fall
Resident evil has racoon city, the coolest fucking zombie event in any fucking franchise EVER. Hands down inarguably the best.....never gets a movie of it..... TV series? Nope, they made that about random girls in the future. Movie? They made a totally different character and made a really good movie about it, over 20 years ago and only 1 movie from 1 perspective about a massive 4 month long milkable event.
Resident evil should be on their 10th movie, going harder than fast and the furious. Resident evil 1's mansion is a big enough event for an entire movie.
A series where the first season covers Warcraft 3
This is ignorant coming from a fan. Duncan Jones took 99% of the lore from the books including Rise of the Horde which is cannon. I know cause I read it. It was just poorly executed cuz the dialogue was terrible, humans look was off and it wasn't cool enough except the orcs.
0:58 100% STAAAHHHPP DOING THIS. Frozen Throne Trilogy would have been LEGENDARY.
Bro the theaters couldn't handle us if thats the warcraft movie we had
Arthas lore is basically skylwaker lore
I actually wish only for Alliance characters to be 3D too. They are too small in those plates. LOTR did it well with sizes, but WC makers just did not have Peter Jackson to do it right. They would be able to pull off 3D for sure. Orcs were AMAZING.
The story of Arthas is like an ace up Blizzard's sleeve, but he can't feel it.
It wouldn't matter what they did making the movie, tons of people would complain no matter what.
I'd be going to an imax to see Arthas at the Wrath Gate
Can you inmagine the wrathgate bit in an actual movie. I mean the cinematic is already great. How awesome would it be.
Speaking fax my man, give Asmon a printer someone, he could write a book
It's usually not the writers... it's the producers telling them what to do.
I would love a Arthas Netflix series
And during the Culling of Stratholme, there's an easter egg where 5 random human adventureres/soldiers who stand out above the rest and apear out of nowhere.
And the whole time they make subtle references to the future without meaning to, and mysterisouly talk about horde stuff like "Lok'Tar Og- uuugh- For Lorderon!!!", as a little easter egg to the Culling of Stratholme dungeon and the 5 players travelling back in time to help Arthas and getting shape-shifted into being human.
I feel like to properly tell the Arthas story, from when he purged strat to when he died on Icecrown. Would take like, 4 or 5 movies worth. I guess it depends on how many main characters you have and from how many points of view. But you'd have to do it from Arthas PoV, Thrall PoV, Malfurion Tyrande and Illidan PoV, Tirion PoV, Varian PoV. and that's a lot of PoVs to cover in a movie. Honestly think this story would be better suited for an HBO max TV series that could cover all this and that would last for 3 to 4 seasons. Then if it's a highly watched/rated show they could go to Deathwing. Idk. just my opinion
i mean if you include all the lore in lore of the rings, it would be alot more movies then 3, so i think making warcraft into 3 movies is feasible. you need a guy like peter jacksson tho to make it great.
@@Dennan yeah but each lotr movie was like over 2 hours each. I'm going off of average movie runtimes which is 83 minutes.
@@meta3323 aa yea , also i think extended was like closer to 3 hours per movie ? i think ^^ but ye normal length you would need more. tho if they made it, i think it would be best to make it longer.
mannnnn a three part trilogy of everything to do with arthas would be insane...
I think I saw a leak a few years ago of a Warcraft 2 movie titled "Rise of the Lich King", I really hope that's what they're going for but it's been too many years that I don't think there will be another Warcraft movie.
I agree,don't reinvent the wheel. If it works,don't change it.
Warcraft movie wasn't bad and I watched it multiple times, but for sure it was not high quality overall and there are many stories in WoW lore much more interesting.
I totally agree with you! Lore of Arthas would be an easy entry point for audience to immerse in Warcraft Lore
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Asmon: "You Have One Job! ONE JOB!"
Movie 1: Arthas' childhood recap and the events of WC3 ending with finding Frost Mourne.
Movie 2: Arthas' DK campaign, ending with ascending the frozen throne.
Movie 3: Events of Wotlk from his view.
replace word movie with with "season" :d
That more sounds super greedy to make as much money as possible, you know like those fuckers who take a book that is barely enough for 1 movie and make 2-3 out of it...
You got enough story when you do Arthas -> Lich King in one movie. And then another with his fall - what should include his fate when he was condemned by his teacher he had murdered - and end as a weapon himself.
Should not even go to the point in which the last bit of his soul fades, because at this point he's alread gone anyway, as it was said, it's just a last fragment and flicker of his spiriti, not himself and it's the story of other peopel, even though interlinked, but the way there would too complex to just squeeze in.
For Arthas his story ends when he is grabbed by his former teacher, now an angel of death and just thrown in (hateful?) revenge into hell, where he is tortured to death and forged into a blade. That would work well as movie, because you would have those two blades. One which started his story and downfall - and one that makes his end.
Even for people who don't know the whole background it would be obvious enough, especially since you would need Nerzhul somewhere in the first part and should show how he was also forged into a weapon.
You could add Zovaal to it when Kingsmourne is forged, that he won't make the mistake his minions did, by letting any own will alive in the blade...
It's the best Arthas can hope for after all he had done, to be seen as a victim, too , beside being an HItler of the Undead.
It would at the least have to be a two parter. With it starting in art has early life to meeting Jaina to establish the love interest then the culling of stratholme to close it out. Then the next one is his his descent into madness and what leads to his death. If there was a third they probably wouldn’t do well. Honestly would be great as a series and they’d definitely make their money back off of it. Season one basically what I said for the first movie. Using more time to build characters and shit. Then the tragedy of the second season to make you feel bad for everyone that loved him. Would probably garner a new fan base for people that like joker esque characters
Arthas is literally Wow's Sauron, i don't get why they choose to make the story of Durotan instead. They can always go back in time after that just like the Hobbit.
Uh, no, he's not at all.
What got Arthas in common with Sauron?
Arthas is more like a Ring Ghost. A human who fell for a higher power, got corrupted and is now going after the living.
Sauron would never have a moment like "Is it over, father?" because all he did was 100% his own choice and goal.
Arthas is a kid who was unlucky and weak enough to fall for temptation and manipulation, leading him onto a path of (self)destruction.
Overall: that makes him more interesting than Sauron - or such fucked up Super HItler shit like Hydaelyn in FF14.
The Arthas Menethil Story: Amazing
Netflix/Hollywood writers: Let's change it
I always thought that a Warcraft Movie could have had a unique twist and write the story from both Human and Orc / Alliance and Horde perspectives covering the same overall story but as two movies with a simultaneous release. The parts where the sides battle each other or work hand in hand can be the same actual scenes but just from different perspectives as well. So Warcraft: Humans and Warcraft: Orcs would both be playing at the same times in the same theater next to each other.
It would work perfectly with the overall themes that there are good and evil actors among all the races
Yes... Lets make two movies at once. This is such bad idea, because you can lose double funds put into making movie.
@@PentaHousen Just distribution costs really. They made an overly bloated movie to begin with because they tried to cram so much into a single movie. They could have essentially done much of the same but divided it out and fleshed things out better with a more central focus on each side. It makes for a more focused protagonist and antagonist, and even gives the opportunity to show how that is viewed from each side
I think that the Troll War would be way more interesting personnally. Uniting humanity, working with other races, a beautiful sacrifice and a big boom of fire to end it all.
Would do great on the big screen. Plus not everyone know this story unlike Anakin Menethil vs Uther Kenobi
Having it set during Warcraft 1 was fine. You need to build foundations first.
As someone new to the whole universe and WoW this December I appreciated them starting at the beginning, since I didn’t even know why the alliance and horde were fighting. I rate the movie 👏
They will eventually do lich king movie, but if i understand enough, they wanted to start from beginning.
Idk why we haven't seen a Warcraft 3 series with Henry Cavil as Arthus. You know he'd jump at it in a second since he has played WoW.
To be fair, the writers for GoT did stick pretty close to the established writing, but only up to the point where there was writing. The mistake with GoT was threefold: They should've waited for George R. R. Martin to finish writing the damn thing to begin with. That was the first mistake. The second mistake was continuing past the finished works that Martin had put out. They should've put the whole damn thing on hold, or better yet, refer back to mistake #1. Their third mistake was trying to rush the end of the series so they could work on other projects instead. Never rush anything, especially if you're trying to land a new gig afterwards (star wars). They ended up ruining GoT for everyone, and lost out on their aims of going over to write for Disney's Star Wars. The latter im not sure if thats a good or a bad thing considering Disney's track record has only one win (at the time), and its Rogue One, which retconned Kyle Katarn lmao...
Tbh I love the original events during Rise of the Horde. The movie just didn't tell it very well. I remember it literally expected you to know everything leading up to the invasion of Azeroth and explained nothing. Then we got like maybe 4% accuracy going forward. We should have gotten maybe a mini series. The events on Draenor from the beginning with Nerzhul. The invasion of Azeroth with the horde and the sacking of SW. The SW survivors fleeing to the Eastern Kingdoms and forming a new alliance against the desperate onslaught. Horde arrives on eastern kingdom shores and a massive and brutal battle is fought. Orgrim Doomhammer smashes Uther the Lightbringer's head in and the Alliance barely prevails. It's epic stuff.
All you have to do, is follow the damn train, CJ!
arthas warcraft big budget tv series would be a SLAM DUNK. dont change shit, just play out what was written 100%.
The issue is that for some reason the studio don't want to continue with the Warcraft movies. The director does, many of the actors did want to as well. The movie made alot of money, just not in the US. It was a huuuuge hit in China. Absolutely, huge. It made 439 mil dollars and cost 160 mil to make. That's not a break even movie that is a successful movie.
Warcraft was fine for what it was. It was WC 1, could have beutifully lead into WC2. You had Doomhammer, Gul'dan, Garona, Lothar and Khadgar well established after the first movie. You had backstories now, it would have been easy to continue and make a second one with hints of a scourge towards the end, end credits on grainboxes with the Lordareon seal tinted green and a sound of a buzz as they are being loaded off a cart, have a third one with basically WC3 but more focused on the lich king stuff and end with Arthas ascending the Icecrown Citadel, then have a final movie about his downfall. Could have even stretched it for an additional movie with all the stuff around WC3 and TFT etc.
We could have been well into it. But noooo
damn bro a three part trilogy
henry cavil as illidan, alexander skarsgård as arthas 🥺 my two fav actors
You forgot rings of power. Same crime
After Riot's Arcane, this looks like a real possibility.
Warcraft should be a TV series, from War of the Ancients, the Black Empire, and so on and so forth.