It's funny to me the people commenting on how good Oscar looks for a "17 year old". I think of horses of that age of being in their prime, not old. I have a 28 year old horse...has a little hock arthritis now and has lost some condition in the hind end in the last two years, but otherwise still going strong. I hope I have him around into his 30's at least.
I agree, I have a 19 yr old Arabian, plan on riding him until 30 or so. He is very healthy and fit. I rode an 18 year old Arabian in a 30 mile endurance ride. She went on for years after that.
People are not used to “longevity” in horses (I hate putting it that way). They get started at 2-3 years, ridden extensively until they’re about 10 years old and then, if not earlier, the issues start coming in. I read the life-span of warmbloods on average dropped by ten years, from ~25 years to ~15 years. That’s insane.
Interesting View ... So much to learn with horses. It looks like it is a bottomless barrel where you can dedicate your life to horses and still could find something new.
One of the ways that I’ve worked on loose leash walking with my dogs is to turn around and go the opposite way as soon as they pull on the leash. And again, and again, and again over time they understand how to move with me. That seems to be similar to what you did with Oscar.
I have corgi/Pomeranian crosses. (Yes they are cute, very fox like) One is go (corgi ish) and will pull on the leash. I just stop and stand there. I have tried reversing you describe, but he just thinks that is fun. Before we go out the door, they just have to sit for awhile. On the porch we sit again. As I walk I stop and make them sit if they pull on the leash. I do this over and over every day. Think of videos of corgis herding sheep or even ducks on the beach of Cape Cod. They are a go breed, so woah is the last thing they want. I NEVER had to do this with the labs and golden retrievers I had years ago. Cubby, my very go dog, will often sigh when I make them stop, but they are older and so am I so manners are important. (Picked up a terrible virus at the dog park, so I have stopped taking them there.)
Excelelent. That's a version of moving the feet to get to the mind. So much good, practical, content on horsemanship, on youtube right now, hope they don't take it away
This is such interesting and as you say, subtle, stuff. You are getting more and more zen in your teaching, sir. And I have loved every bit of it. Did you ever happen to read the story of the superlative horse? You are reminding me of the main character, the apprentice who no longer sees colour or sex or breed, but sees what the horse offers beneath the surface. Thank you for sharing your work with horses. PS Oscar is a beauty. I would never have guessed his age; he looks like he is in wonderful shape. And look at that, you can teach an "old" horse new tricks ;)
I was stopping and turning the other way , when the horse was on a mission home, but I'd never thought of why I did it. Its remembering it all when you are training. This is brilliant.
I so appreciate that you've done a couple under saddle video demos recently. Yes it's about not getting on them until they have a handle from the ground, but as this vid shows, different stuff can happen under saddle. Thank you.
This whole scenario has happened to me so many time!! and I’m not a professional trainer. And it’s scary lol. It’s such a struggle when you LOVE horses and Love trail riding. Thanks for the help and explanation
Those washes reminded me of the horsemen living somewhere in New South Wales near the Macintyre River. That river had a lot of sand , and those folks would use it to train their horses to walk fast in the sand , riding especially at night. Whatever the psychology of that is I have no idea. Great segment as always, Warwick. Many thanks.
For those who are attracted to this coloring, & it is stunning - go to Tara's site on RUclips. She bought a completely unhandled 1 yr. old filly - now named Bella. She's 2 now & has learned quite a lot in her 1st year. She has the exact same coloring as Oscar (my dream horse) even with the sweetheart on her tail & a bit more blonde mixed in her mane. She's a purebred Andalusion (¹1orig. for bullfighting in Spain) whereas Mr. Oscar looks like a solid quarter horse to me.
@@firmin15 - "Duns" have a very visible dark stripe down their backs, from their mane to the top of their tails. It follows their spine & is called a Dorsal Stripe. Buckskins don't have that stripe. That's just one but main difference between duns & buckskins. Duns can come in many colors, including Blue Duns, looking almost black.
@@mdee860 I am aware - I was only mentioning this to the previous commenter, who speculated about duns. I have personally known a buckskin without the dun gene who also presents with a frosted mane. I didn't look particularly closely to see if Warwick's mare presented any hallmark primitive markings. Dun is a simple dilution gene and can act on any color, even those with other dilution genes, such as cream. "Blue dun," as you call it, is most often called "grullo" or "grulla." There are also such things as false duns - that is, horses who present with a dun stripe, and sometimes even other faint primitive markings (such as leg striping, a wither mark, or striped ears), but are not true duns, as they are caused by the Ndun gene, rather than the true dun gene. Equestrian genetics are an interesting topic. Though I've always found it strange how few self-titled "color breeders" actually bother to read the scientific papers associated with them.
So well explained. So many "trainers" are simply obsessed with moving their hooves. It's way more complicated than 1 size fits all & reminds me of your: Work with the horse you have today." In this lesson, not only work w/ the horse you have today - but ALSO - in the environment you have today! Excellent video.
Thank you again! Am learning . If I’ve got this right? If you don’t have the horse you are riding trusting you as a team leader, both of you, will never be dancing partners together. Willingly! Isn’t that the goal? ....Well, it is for me! Thank-you again for your efforts and good will, to teach us that want to learn
I find it very Interesting how horses kind of go into different modes in the different environments they are in. I just started a little mare and she as brave and bold as anything in the ring but on the trail she was very un confident and nervous. I love your vids!
Wonderful video, Warwick! It was great to see this after watching the one about the mule. Very helpful! And the scenes from your camping trip were just marvelous. Thanks so much!
Funny. I'm still in the beginning stages with my horse, after a bad fall and having to start at the beginning (in August). Turns out he's a great trail horse - but he wants to go-go-go. And, I'm not preparing for jumping trees and cantering thru the fields. Stopping him or slowing him down was more work than I had in me. He wasn't spooking, I never got that he wasn't confident or that he was worried. He even took a huge steep hill without issue (I had the issue). I'm going to try this our next try. Just waiting for the rain to stop. I tried a one-rein stop, and it barely worked. This looks better. I don't mind him wanting to go - complete opposite of what I was dealing with 8 months ago. But, want him to not be so excited to be outside and free. LOL. It's a good problem to have, compared to what I was dealing with.
When my young gelding spooks or shies or startles on a trail, I always do some circles in that spot, or disengage his hindquarters a couple of times, to diffuse the energy he had from the spook. Even if he only kind of jumps on the spot and looks, I found that if I just walked on without doing something, he retained the energy and next time he'd jump worse. Whereas if we moved his feet around until he didn't really want to any more, next time he'd be much less likely to shy
Hey, do you tend to do the same thing from the ground if he gets spooky when leading? I do what you do when riding and it works but I seem to get more spooking when in hand, any suggestions? Thanks 😊
@@warmbloodsx2129 Yes, I use a long lead and depending on the room we have I get him to circle or half-circle (back and forth), or back up, or really anything to get his attention off the scary world and back on me. If he's ignoring me and looking away, I raise my energy level by swinging the end of the rope or shaking it until he pays attention with his ears on me. If he pushes into me I might smack the lead on his shoulder. Keep moving him different directions until his focus is on you and preferably he starts relaxing by lowering his head or chewing. Then just stop the excersizes and go back to leading him wherever you were going. That's what I do anyway
I have the same issues as described, when riding my Fjord pony (coincidentally similar colouring!), she's so connected on the ground and at liberty but riding, I lose her mind, those ears tell me where she's thinking! I've been looking for solutions for ages so I will give the circles a try, thanks!
Very Helpful. This helped me realize my mare's "robotic body response" to a situation we had a week ago. I'm going to work on myself to make sure I don't miss her feet and mind responses not working together next time. Thank you! 🙂
One of mine is looky on the trail. Constantly wanting to look side to side ( none of my others do that). I try to keep her between reins and legs letting her bump into decision. Too muddy lately to do much trotting... At times trips forward when in a steady trot... not picking up her feet. Mind and feet not in synch... and probably rider error too
Is this something I should try with a horse who becomes "hot" on the trail? He typically is great on the first half with a relaxing walk, a loose rein, ect but towards the second half he becomes more interested in making it home and I am forced to keep pressure on his mouth
But what do you do, if your horse gets angry at you, when you start picking up the rains and do circles? She has no problem bending or anything, but if you keep letting her do circles, she becomes angry, but still has focus on her friend in the fields?
If a horse gets angry at you there is obviously a step missed somewhere in the foundation, OR you have put them in too big a situation, more than they can handle
Just out of curiosity... Why is one of his nostrils so much higher than the other? I have a horse that does that as well and I don’t understand it. Kind of relieved to see your horse do that as well, sometimes I would wonder if it was some sort of stoicism ?
Calling the horses mind back to his body dovetails with what Deb Bennet calls the birdy- where the horses focus is.. Harry Whitney also refers a lot to horses thinking of how they are going to move before they actually do move. A thought starts in the mind and then the movement comes best Bruce Peek
I’m currently not riding my mare, would the approach be the same when I’m on a walk with her? She’s a little 50/50 on trails, either she’s completely relaxed and with me or she’s very focused on everything around, especially on the way home she tends to speed up. Would I let her circle around me until I get that ear to flick?
@@WarwickSchiller At the barn she's calm 99% of the time. If not it's usually due to the weather and then I don't go out with her in the first place. So we start off calm and then it's a 50/50 thing, whether she stays that way or gets nervous.
That’s called a mecate; it is used to adjust the fit of the hackmore (loop around their nose) and can also be used as a lead rope if one needs to hop off.
It's funny to me the people commenting on how good Oscar looks for a "17 year old". I think of horses of that age of being in their prime, not old. I have a 28 year old horse...has a little hock arthritis now and has lost some condition in the hind end in the last two years, but otherwise still going strong. I hope I have him around into his 30's at least.
I agree, I have a 19 yr old Arabian, plan on riding him until 30 or so. He is very healthy and fit. I rode an 18 year old Arabian in a 30 mile endurance ride. She went on for years after that.
People are not used to “longevity” in horses (I hate putting it that way). They get started at 2-3 years, ridden extensively until they’re about 10 years old and then, if not earlier, the issues start coming in.
I read the life-span of warmbloods on average dropped by ten years, from ~25 years to ~15 years. That’s insane.
Some disciplines age a horse quicker than others depending on many things but especially stress put on the joints.
I have a standardbred,ex race horse,she still can wtc so much energy,she is 25!
Interesting View ... So much to learn with horses. It looks like it is a bottomless barrel where you can dedicate your life to horses and still could find something new.
Every horse is different puzzle
I suspect that if I couldn't find something new with each one, I'd get bored quickly! 😅
that's how it is
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but does anyone know of a good place to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@Khalid Alonso I watch on FlixZone. Just google for it :)
One of the ways that I’ve worked on loose leash walking with my dogs is to turn around and go the opposite way as soon as they pull on the leash. And again, and again, and again over time they understand how to move with me. That seems to be similar to what you did with Oscar.
I have corgi/Pomeranian crosses. (Yes they are cute, very fox like) One is go (corgi ish) and will pull on the leash. I just stop and stand there. I have tried reversing you describe, but he just thinks that is fun. Before we go out the door, they just have to sit for awhile. On the porch we sit again. As I walk I stop and make them sit if they pull on the leash. I do this over and over every day. Think of videos of corgis herding sheep or even ducks on the beach of Cape Cod. They are a go breed, so woah is the last thing they want. I NEVER had to do this with the labs and golden retrievers I had years ago. Cubby, my very go dog, will often sigh when I make them stop, but they are older and so am I so manners are important. (Picked up a terrible virus at the dog park, so I have stopped taking them there.)
Excelelent. That's a version of moving the feet to get to the mind. So much good, practical, content on horsemanship, on youtube right now, hope they don't take it away
This is such interesting and as you say, subtle, stuff. You are getting more and more zen in your teaching, sir. And I have loved every bit of it. Did you ever happen to read the story of the superlative horse? You are reminding me of the main character, the apprentice who no longer sees colour or sex or breed, but sees what the horse offers beneath the surface. Thank you for sharing your work with horses. PS Oscar is a beauty. I would never have guessed his age; he looks like he is in wonderful shape. And look at that, you can teach an "old" horse new tricks ;)
I was stopping and turning the other way , when the horse was on a mission home, but I'd never thought of why I did it. Its remembering it all when you are training. This is brilliant.
I so appreciate that you've done a couple under saddle video demos recently. Yes it's about not getting on them until they have a handle from the ground, but as this vid shows, different stuff can happen under saddle. Thank you.
This whole scenario has happened to me so many time!! and I’m not a professional trainer. And it’s scary lol. It’s such a struggle when you LOVE horses and Love trail riding. Thanks for the help and explanation
Those washes reminded me of the horsemen living somewhere in New South Wales near the Macintyre River. That river had a lot of sand , and those folks would use it to train their horses to walk fast in the sand , riding especially at night. Whatever the psychology of that is I have no idea. Great segment as always, Warwick. Many thanks.
Interesting color: a buckskin?/dun? with "rabicano" (the white hair on mane and base of tail)
Frosting in the mane and tail is relatively common with the dun gene. :)
Pretty sure rabicano is more a patchy roan pattern.
For those who are attracted to this coloring, & it is stunning - go to Tara's site on RUclips. She bought a completely unhandled 1 yr. old filly - now named Bella. She's 2 now & has learned quite a lot in her 1st year. She has the exact same coloring as Oscar (my dream horse) even with the sweetheart on her tail & a bit more blonde mixed in her mane. She's a purebred Andalusion (¹1orig. for bullfighting in Spain) whereas Mr. Oscar looks like a solid quarter horse to me.
@@firmin15 - "Duns" have a very visible dark stripe down their backs, from their mane to the top of their tails. It follows their spine & is called a Dorsal Stripe. Buckskins don't have that stripe. That's just one but main difference between duns & buckskins. Duns can come in many colors, including Blue Duns, looking almost black.
@@mdee860 I am aware - I was only mentioning this to the previous commenter, who speculated about duns. I have personally known a buckskin without the dun gene who also presents with a frosted mane. I didn't look particularly closely to see if Warwick's mare presented any hallmark primitive markings.
Dun is a simple dilution gene and can act on any color, even those with other dilution genes, such as cream. "Blue dun," as you call it, is most often called "grullo" or "grulla."
There are also such things as false duns - that is, horses who present with a dun stripe, and sometimes even other faint primitive markings (such as leg striping, a wither mark, or striped ears), but are not true duns, as they are caused by the Ndun gene, rather than the true dun gene.
Equestrian genetics are an interesting topic. Though I've always found it strange how few self-titled "color breeders" actually bother to read the scientific papers associated with them.
Oscar is one fine looking horse. I hope I age that well 😂
So well explained. So many "trainers" are simply obsessed with moving their hooves. It's way more complicated than 1 size fits all & reminds me of your: Work with the horse you have today." In this lesson, not only work w/ the horse you have today - but ALSO - in the environment you have today! Excellent video.
Thank you again! Am learning
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If I’ve got this right? If you don’t have the horse you are riding trusting you as a team leader, both of you, will never be dancing partners together. Willingly! Isn’t that the goal? ....Well, it is for me! Thank-you again for your efforts and good will, to teach us that want to learn
What a gorgeous area to ride in and a lovely break in routine for the horses :)
I could watch you ride out there all day. I grew up in AZ riding in washes and river beds and I miss it!
The trail footage of his ears is so helpful --- you're awesome!
Yes! I love it! Kick and turn kick and turn 😎So true getting his mind back on you! Love this truthful teaching!
I find it very Interesting how horses kind of go into different modes in the different environments they are in. I just started a little mare and she as brave and bold as anything in the ring but on the trail she was very un confident and nervous. I love your vids!
Wonderful video, Warwick! It was great to see this after watching the one about the mule. Very helpful! And the scenes from your camping trip were just marvelous. Thanks so much!
That is the most beautiful horse I’ve ever seen
Funny. I'm still in the beginning stages with my horse, after a bad fall and having to start at the beginning (in August). Turns out he's a great trail horse - but he wants to go-go-go. And, I'm not preparing for jumping trees and cantering thru the fields. Stopping him or slowing him down was more work than I had in me. He wasn't spooking, I never got that he wasn't confident or that he was worried. He even took a huge steep hill without issue (I had the issue). I'm going to try this our next try. Just waiting for the rain to stop. I tried a one-rein stop, and it barely worked. This looks better. I don't mind him wanting to go - complete opposite of what I was dealing with 8 months ago. But, want him to not be so excited to be outside and free. LOL. It's a good problem to have, compared to what I was dealing with.
When my young gelding spooks or shies or startles on a trail, I always do some circles in that spot, or disengage his hindquarters a couple of times, to diffuse the energy he had from the spook. Even if he only kind of jumps on the spot and looks, I found that if I just walked on without doing something, he retained the energy and next time he'd jump worse. Whereas if we moved his feet around until he didn't really want to any more, next time he'd be much less likely to shy
Yes exactly !
Hey, do you tend to do the same thing from the ground if he gets spooky when leading? I do what you do when riding and it works but I seem to get more spooking when in hand, any suggestions? Thanks 😊
@@warmbloodsx2129 Yes, I use a long lead and depending on the room we have I get him to circle or half-circle (back and forth), or back up, or really anything to get his attention off the scary world and back on me. If he's ignoring me and looking away, I raise my energy level by swinging the end of the rope or shaking it until he pays attention with his ears on me. If he pushes into me I might smack the lead on his shoulder. Keep moving him different directions until his focus is on you and preferably he starts relaxing by lowering his head or chewing. Then just stop the excersizes and go back to leading him wherever you were going. That's what I do anyway
I have the same issues as described, when riding my Fjord pony (coincidentally similar colouring!), she's so connected on the ground and at liberty but riding, I lose her mind, those ears tell me where she's thinking! I've been looking for solutions for ages so I will give the circles a try, thanks!
17 is prime of life❤❤
Very Helpful. This helped me realize my mare's "robotic body response" to a situation we had a week ago. I'm going to work on myself to make sure I don't miss her feet and mind responses not working together next time. Thank you! 🙂
Love that hackamore! Anyone know what kind it is??
How did Sir Pinknose handle that Arizona sunshine? He looked so happy in every video!
Beautiful story !
As always AWESOME. THANK YOU
Thank you for the AWEOME explanation.
Such a gorgeous horse!
For another great video! Very thoughtful provoking😁🙏🏼
One of mine is looky on the trail. Constantly wanting to look side to side ( none of my others do that). I try to keep her between reins and legs letting her bump into decision. Too muddy lately to do much trotting... At times trips forward when in a steady trot... not picking up her feet. Mind and feet not in synch... and probably rider error too
Mine too. A real tank, she'll go through/ over anything... just don't expect her to be LOOKING at it!
Brilliant as always thankyou
Love that horse!
Wow, for 17 he looks so good! So muscular!!
Is this something I should try with a horse who becomes "hot" on the trail? He typically is great on the first half with a relaxing walk, a loose rein, ect but towards the second half he becomes more interested in making it home and I am forced to keep pressure on his mouth
Thanks a lot for sharing!
Loved it thank you 🙋🏻♀️🤗
But what do you do, if your horse gets angry at you, when you start picking up the rains and do circles? She has no problem bending or anything, but if you keep letting her do circles, she becomes angry, but still has focus on her friend in the fields?
If a horse gets angry at you there is obviously a step missed somewhere in the foundation, OR you have put them in too big a situation, more than they can handle
i miss Arizona.
Yes great video thank you. What color is he actually he is gorgeous!
I love the bosal setup! Where can I get one?
What good tips 👌
I love the main of the horse. Very pretty!
Great! Thank you!
Do you sell the bridle you are using on Oscar? If not where would someone purchase it?
No, sorry, I bought it at a horse expo.
Great video!
Starting to make easier sense!
Just out of curiosity... Why is one of his nostrils so much higher than the other? I have a horse that does that as well and I don’t understand it. Kind of relieved to see your horse do that as well, sometimes I would wonder if it was some sort of stoicism ?
Calling the horses mind back to his body dovetails with what Deb Bennet calls the birdy- where the horses focus is.. Harry Whitney also refers a lot to horses thinking of how they are going to move before they actually do move. A thought starts in the mind and then the movement comes
best
Bruce Peek
Thanks Bruce.
I’m currently not riding my mare, would the approach be the same when I’m on a walk with her? She’s a little 50/50 on trails, either she’s completely relaxed and with me or she’s very focused on everything around, especially on the way home she tends to speed up.
Would I let her circle around me until I get that ear to flick?
How is she about everything BEFORE you go out.
@@WarwickSchiller At the barn she's calm 99% of the time. If not it's usually due to the weather and then I don't go out with her in the first place. So we start off calm and then it's a 50/50 thing, whether she stays that way or gets nervous.
@@jupitersecIipse Id say if the weather effects a horse, then they arent ready to go out.
Ok why is there an extra rayn on the left hand side of the horse?
I think that might be for tethering the horse to a post or a hook as the reins on his bridle look like they are one continuous piece.
Yeah I think it’s a lead rope which is tied to the saddle horn
That’s called a mecate; it is used to adjust the fit of the hackmore (loop around their nose) and can also be used as a lead rope if one needs to hop off.
@@tristacwgrl52 thanks for that 😎
@@recklesslifegnr you are very welcome!
I want a halter like that. where can I get that? in size cob
Going to use this!
Love you work mate
👍🏻💕😎
The same exersise with dogs...
Too much blathering, do you ever get to the point?