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"totally-not-skaven" just means the other DM ripped off the warhammer Skaven without credit to the source, by renaming it (or dropping the name) but retaining all the characteristics defined in warhammer. A transplant from the unrelated setting.
Yes, exactly
I would literally just include Skaven, by name, because why not? I've done this with various things from various sources. Hell, Weeping Angels are one of my favorite "traps" to throw at players.
I think literally everyone but Luke figured this out
Sarcasm is hard to convey in text. Yeah, he's saying "oh they're toooootallllyyyyyy not [just] 'Skaven [from warhammer]'"
i dont think the word is being used as a RACE, but is a lsang term like, "totally not kidding", no shit, .. kind of thing.. based on how its being used in the text.
OP 100% created a character that will clash with the world from the start and got mad when the clashing happened. Like they're mad that dark things are happening in a campaign that the DM told them was dark. Also, OP says toxic way too much
This narrator seems to be rather unreliable.
I man, we are talking about someone who complains about passive aggression but repeatedly uses the phrase "totally not Skaven" and intended to derail the campaign from the start.
Yeah, I kinda thought the same thing. The DM sounded like he was going for a grimdark evil/antihero campaign with a sort of Warhammer approach where there's no definitive heroes or good guys. And then this goober rolls up a lawful/good-aligned character where everyone else is some flavor of chaotic-neutral-evil. I can kinda see where OP was going with it, wanting to be a beacon of hope, a light in these dark times, and a corraller of the chaotic cats that is their party. However, their character champions a god who got their ass kicked by rat people. They're almost begging to get bullied. At best, they misunderstood the assignment; at worst, they had some main character syndrome and deliberately tried to derail the game.
Call a rabbit a smeerp and everyone might describe it as "totally not a rabbit".
It has all the properties of a rabbit. It walks like a rabbit, looks like a rabbit, talks like a rabbit. But it's called a smeerp!
But we all can tell that it's a rabbit.
@@DanielMWJ Sarcasm is tool commonly used by passive aggressive people.
Saying "totally not a rabbit" instead of "it looks like a rabbit" is a possible sign of passive aggression, especially in an article that is complaining about passive aggression.
Love the kitties, they were like 'father this OP is suspicious'
Skaven are the evil scheming rat-men from Warhammer Fantasy
When he says totally-not-Skaven, he means they basically created a Warhammer Skaven character and plunked them into this setting.
I think he just thinks it's lazy or something? If a DM is fine with a player playing an evil rat-man character I don't see a problem with doing that in itself.
BTW, It's usually pronouned Skeiven, the A in Skaven is like the A in cake.
But your pronunciation is fine too, and actually makes more sense considering the origin of the name (comes from scavenger)
OP definitely made the decisions that led the end result. No D&D is better than bad D&D.
Narrator sus. Many underhanded moves and overuse of word toxic.
Totally. I think the worst thing about that campaign was probably the OP
@@BreakingRadOfficial The worst thing about that campaign was the DM for all the reasons Luke pointed out. The OP obviously did not make it any better.
@@Olmac63 you’re assuming the narrator was reliable. I doubt that highly. It’s human nature to tell your version of the story to make yourself look better, but even given that the OP was likely stacking the deck in their own favor, they still come off as a turd.
You’re welcome to your own opinion though.
This
@@BreakingRadOfficial I made no assumption about the reliability of the OP what so ever. I said that the OP needs to make better life choices. I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt until they give me reason not too. What I am sure of is, if the New DM was to give their side of the story,, somewhere in the middle is the truth. I work in an industry where I am always getting two sides of every story.
OP is the asshole for making a just character for a Red Campaign and then trying to sabotage it into a "good campaign."
Yeah, if he wanted to play a good character, that’s fine. But don’t try turning the entire campaign good to fit your character when that’s not the purpose
The whole group is complicit in this, the DM is "totally not" the only toxic one if you catch my drift
Anyone else feel those Evil Techno-Elves that cannot tell lies sound pretty original and interesting?? Meanwhile New DM gets bashed repeatedly for including rat-like humanoids into a D&D campaign.. well count me guilty there too! Skaven are great, and no were-rats are shapeshifters that would form completely different societies, not at all a substitute for Skaven.
CANNOT LIE
CANNOT DIE
....maybe Pie?
yeah that does sound pretty cool :)
Skaven WERE fun, until the End Times. Then a TON of people started hating them, because they started stomping almost every other group for seemingly no reason other than "teehee funny rat man", which just doesn't jive with WH. I think the OP is one of those people.
Hot take: If you are planning on how to kill a player's character, you're the bad guy.
The other guy can be the bad guy too! But YOU are also the bad guy.
Also totally going against the campaign premise. If it's a dark fantasy horror and gritty game, why would you as a player roll up a good knightly PC? Of course the DM wouldn't like your PC one bit and would pick favorites to those players who made PCs that would go with their campaign premise. Yes them DM was bad, everyone in that campaign was bad, specially the OP. So many red flags, could have avoided the game entirely, or could have went with the story the DM made for the party but no he wanted to change it instead of leaving.
@@StuffSayoSays nah, an extremely moral compassed character would be amazing as long as the player can role play. The character being overly good coming to grasp with having to navigate morally grey areas.
@@StuffSayoSays not related to the post, but a good chivalrous character is great for a grey gritty horror setting, as it is the oneto be most affected by the grey morality of the setting. Obviously, only if the DM and player are mature enough about it
OP made his own problems and refused to accept that he was wrong, stubbornly pushed through because no reason at all, then explodes. LMAO Yes the DM was bad, but every single player was also as bad.
The irony of talking about the elves kicking butt, and cue cat walks across the screen and shows it's butt.
Yeah. That opening says one of two things very loudly.
1) "I like to suffer painfully, and actively joined in for what I entirely expected to be painful."
2) "I need to justify my decisions, so in retrospect, this guy was just really terrible."
Either way... looking like... yeah. You were probably the axe there.
Harping in totally-not-Skaven is painful. It means the DM created a race of rat people that were heavily modelled on the Scaven from Warhammer and called them something else.
It's like creating an order of space wizards who fight with bram swords and protect the galaxy that are called Yeomen. The Yeomen are totally-not-Jedi.
Saying "totally not Skaven" probably means they were an evil, crazed, bumbling character. It's sarcasm as they were most definitely Skaven-like.
Man-thing speaks-talks nonsense! Skaven are not evil and are in fact only myth-legend, not real!
I have to say your readings of horror stories are for more real to the situation as you see it. Really enjoy the non scripted reactions.
Your cat tried to warn you about the Skaven. Its pronounced like craven, literally the joke with their name
I feel like a lot of the group were assholes.
I took 10D6 psychic damage from this video. No reflection on Luke, just the situation and the way the OP tells it. 😂
I would definitely be curious to hear the other players and gm’s take
If you join a game with the intent of subverting it, attack the other players in order to force the campaign to change away from the premise, and so on...then yes you are the AH.
8:00 this game world setting sounds more like Hell than anything else.
When you got a player with five companions, they are all controlled by the dm
When cats bite they are saying that they love you. Cats don't have hands so the mouth is the only way they have to hold you.
Kitteh says, Human man feed me or I bites! Loud noises no likey.🤣
Evil campaigns and party pvp can work. It's basically what Vampire: The Masquerade is partly about.
Blatant favoritism of this magnitude is hard to overlook and is pretty inexcusable.
Everyone was the A-hole, it sounds like.
I love Luke mispronouncing Necromancer as if the E is a A.
How do you run a tabletop themed channel and not know warhammer...? edit: Realized this might come off as snarky, not trying to be, just genuinely confused because every tabletop store I've ever been in is also plastered wall-to-wall with not only warhammer merch, but also players talking loudly about lore
Eh, I think it can be forgiven. I've been in tons of tabletop stores, have played about a dozen ttrpg systems over about 15 years in this hobby. (Just not Warhammer).
I'm aware of Warhammer and I know it was essentially the grandfather of DND as it was adopted from massive tabletop war games. But I could easily not know something is being a reference to Warhammer it's just not something I really know about.
@@immortalmonk2891 D&D evolved from a game system called Chainmail. Warhammer came out in I think 1983, while I started playing D&D (white box) in late 1976. Of the people I play with, the youngest of which started playing in the 90s, maybe 3 of them know anything about Warhammer.
@@Kobold_Bard thanks, case in point I conflated WarHammer with other tatble top war games.
@@Kobold_Bard You are correct, D&D was released 9 years before Warhammer. Chainmail 3 years before that again.
Other guy is correct about D&D (and Chainmail) coming from tabletop war games - just not Warhammer specifically
I've played in one game where PVP happened. No one enjoyed it; we learned that type of game wasn't for us and moved on. Another time, I tried to run a not-good-aligned campaign where the players were all criminals with the goal of forming a thieves guild/mafia type organization. A couple of players went a bit too far in the chaotic/evil direction, resulting in a gang war that trashed the whole concept. We never did that again either.
TLDR: We tried some things that didn't work out, but we're all still friends. I guess our group is better at keeping in-game drama separate from our real-world relationships than others.
Well, sounds like all's well that ends well. Your group seems mature enough to both handle those things and recognize that they don't want to encourage them to happen again. Being able to distinguish between in game relationships and real life ones is very helpful, it also helps avoid things such as main character syndrome and other horror story starters.
OP is sus, extremely immature. Your story is exactly how I would expect these games to be, even if the premise of the game is not one or two players' cup of tea, they all go along with it and give it a real chance. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work and your friendship is more important than the game. Meanwhile the OP joined the game with intentions of derailing if from the very start, he even used the words "force a more lawful campaign" and his plan was to kill half the players' PCs. He got mad that his character died when his plan failed but never considered that the other players could get mad if he succeeded. He was also unable to talk things out like an adult after the whole thing (or before it), would rather badmouth the DM and make high school level teenage drama. Extremely immature.
In the Spelljammer game I just started running, sadly there was already a player (a friend of me and my brother) that was a bit of a problem, and after letting them know what was problematic they left the game. I am the DM, and the antics of said player upset another player and took the rest of the players by surprise in the first actual gameplay session. (session zero ended with an brief "intro" gameplay session for all but one player).
The fact that this guy is so obsessed with the reskinning of skaven makes me think the narrator might be the, how did he put it? Ah yes “toxic” one.
I've run games where it's a solo player running multiple pcs, and I've been a player in older edition games, where we were allowed multiple characters, due to the cutthroat nature, and ability for low HD creatures to one shot lvl 1s. But even in those the cap was usually 4, and you'd never keep them all for long.
i would assume that the OP played because it's what his friend group was going with
When ever people use the phrase "Totally not ______" is when someone rips of something 99.9999% but just change the name and a few minor terms.
Really Luke? "Aita"? You did not know it was an acronym and thought it a word?
Your cats are so attentive. Are there stories they prefer?
Fantastic video but i was also very entertained by the cats many failed attempts at biting you 😂
I have found that server "macro" campaigns that involve building allies and "factions" often descend into PvP tactics. I would never have fun in this kind of setting, as I prefer more "micro" campaigns where we are just a small party making their impact in the world. I have also never played an Evil campaign. I think it would be interesting to try, but I think an evil campaign only works if the party is at least allied to each other, like an unspoken truth.
So player was Skaven all along...
And he calls GM "toxic"
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Have been in game where GM insisted on making all npcs at least twice as powerful as us pcs. Players first complained and when that had insufficient results, we refused to play in games that he was gm for. He still attempted to make his pcs the most powerful, but the gm refused to let him get away with it (often he was the least, most often average with others).
Love it when you go on a rant, and then try to be diplomatic to soften the blow
Great Video!!
Sounds like the Alchemist summoned something that the DM flavored into an Eldritch Horror (probably a demon), and it went wild and attacked the party. The DM is very obviously part of the conversation to do that, so it was a good story event.
OP refuses to play anything except Lawful Stupid, threw a temper tantrum when the campaign wasn't scrapped because they were unhappy, sabotaged the party, and attempted to burn down the campaign out of spite.
DM vetoed that and gave them a time out.
i guess you had your barbarian hat on today huh
I’ve been plenty of games where PC were in conflict with each other… The key is at the players have to be deciding on that narrative together. If it’s one player screwing over another player, that’s a giant NOPE. Two players coming up with some interesting conflict between their PCs can be great
That's really good People management advice - very few people are all bad. But all the good stuff they do, very often cant make up for the one thing they do that constantly ruins the game for everyone else. You need to find a way to stop it immediately.
Knight background comes with 3 followers.
The details can vary, but the punchline here seems to be this campaign was a complete hot mess.
The DM needs to be strong enough to keep the shenanigans in check, creative enough to keep the story entertaining, and fair enough to know, if you are going to give one player a benny, then everyone gets some kind of benny. Its a cooperative story telling game. If people are not jiving, the DM needs to be able to make adjustments. If the DM is making constant adjustments, the DM needs to be wise enough to know that they might be the problem, and make that adjustment.
Played in the game to stay with the group and not be the odd one out. Not the best reason, but social pressure at work here. And created a character directly opposed to the DM's setup. Recipe for failure from the very start.
Man this is a minefield of "that" guy 😅
By "totally not," he means that the Scaven were stolen from Warhammer Fantasy, but introduced as if they were unique to the setting. (i.e., "The DM made it clear that we had to travel to _Totally-Not-Mordor,_ in order to destroy the artifact.")
AITA - Probably AITI - Clearly
Why would I say that?
Clearly joining a campaign, with a DM that you don't like, even consider toxic and wich story premis you already hate, is simply idiotic.
From the description, it heavily sounds like the DM is playing favourites and that would be concerning, if it were not for a bunch of other indicators of OPs behaviour.
Sure, playing favourites is not cool. As a DM you have to remain impartial, no matter what.
Being a first time DM, having planed this whole big, grim dark adventure and then having to deal with a player that seems to fight against you on every step of the way, makes it significantly more understandable. A kinda "getting defensive about your envisioned story ark and circeling the wagons together with the cooperating players.
Where are all the problems:
- The alchemist got a whole bunch of NPCs and there was nothing we could do about it!
What? Why? At this point you are playing all together. It might seem a tad bit unbalanced, but why would you want to do anything about your comrade getting more powerful? Surely, that would be a benefit for the whole group, wouldn't it?
So this gives of strong "vicitmise yourself, jealousy towards other players and antagonizing the table"-Vibes
- Creating a character, that goes completely against the premise of the campaign, is a bad decision in the first place.
Then continuing to play that character as a cocky asswipe, doesn't sound like an attempt to unify the party.
In addition, since there seem to be ongoing tensions between DM and OP for years, this behaviour could have been (miss)understood as OP being a cocky asswipe towards the DM, who would portray the NPCs during those conversations. That is a shitty feeling and sometimes people lash out, when they are constantly poked.
Also a random wanna be hero lecturing the members of wa warcouncil in a cocky way... of course that character gets a dressing down of these NPCs. That sounds inevitable.
- Because I portraied my cahracter as X up to this point, I had no chance of portraing him as Y, wich is what I realy wanted.
Remind me again, please. Who exactly is in charge of the behaviour of someones RP Character? I think it starts with "The Player" and ends with "themself". Could be wrong though.
- The Alchemist was the first one to get his backstory started. Again, so what. Someone will be the first and also, is that realy true?
Sure during play his topic came up first, but there seems to have been some additional prepwork to have happend.
Clearly the Druid was acting in a certain way, because his important character was captured by the BBEG. OP didn't know, but the Druid clearly did.
That leads me to believe, that all players worked with the DM to make their characters fit into the narrative with meaningful motivations.
And it doesn't sound like OP did the same. I mean,. why would they. They hate the premise anyway and their character is actively working against....wait I already wrote that.
- The mock arena battle, where the Alchemist dropped an eldritch horror on them.
Yeah, about that, what does that actually mean? Clearly that campaign did not start at level 1 and there are a bunch of summoning spells, that can easily portray something like that.
So it doesn't realy sound surprising.
- The OP negotiated terms, so that the party could stay together after the druid wanted to stick, beacuse of their backstory and the alchemist simply didn't want to.
Could it be, that that was a slight hint to please embrace the premise of the campaign instead of being hellbend of going against it?
- And finally you plan to kill of two other players characters, because you didn't like them and then throwing a tantrum after getting killed yourself, just because the DM dind't let you kill them.
Well ,you should be happy, that this character is dead on roll another one, that fits into the blloody campaign for once.
I can see, why the DM had no intention of talking to OP, since that talk ended up being OP constantly lashing out against DM
- calling someone toxic while yourself constantly antagonizing the group, npcs and players...
In my personaly experience, the people who call others toxic are often projecting or even have a victim complex.
Not saying that OP is one of those people, because I don't know them, but it would fit somewhat the rest of the story.
Coming to think of it. What I just wrote sounds fairly passive aggressive in parts too.
And that after I voluntarily listened to someone, reading the version of events from that players perspective.
That already struck a nerve with me.
Not sure what that says about me, the DM or OP, but there seems to be a correlation.
So as a word of advice:
Some people, just don't gel with each other. There doesn't have to be any ill intend on either side and still, they procede to piss each other off, for no apparent reason.
In these cases, the best someone can do is, to search an open and honest conversation under four eyes.
If that doesn't resolve the issue, take it to the group. If they don't see the same issue, then it is time to find another group.
The confusing part here is, that the whole group was playing with that "toxic" player for years, then was willing to let them DM for the first time, worked with that new DM to create their characters and went with the flow. It doesn't seem the group sees these issues, in the way OP does. And everybody involved, should ask themself honestly, why that is.
I have no sympathy for anyone in this story, the aggrieved player's attempts to kill off other players characters as a way to "change the campaign" are just as toxic, if not more toxic than anything the toxic DM did.
However, I WOULD like to hear Luke read more of these to me while I do the dishes. AITA for liking to listen to other people's drama?
"totally not XYZ"
This means the same as "similar too but legally distinct from" in a pejorative manner.
Like "he is invincible, super strong, flies, has laser eyes, has freeze breath, and is an alien orphan fighting for truth justice and the American way, but he's totally not Superman"
Or "these are evil black skinned elves that worship spiders but are totally not drow"
It's a mocking trust me bro thing.
Have to admit in comparison i got off lucky my DM clearly did target my character, but I didn't give a darn about the others getting more magical items or power ups which they did!
Was more surprised to catch another player offguard as he was usually smarter than that, but then years of playing with that DM I guess he got used to that kind of thinking.
Huh weird to think that my complaint with him was about him being unable to keep his own game straight!
Sounds like these are fairly young kids playing this particular game.
Honestly, if it weren't for the "several years later" line, I would have assumed they were in high school, maybe college. Still could be, I guess.
wow...I don't know what to say other then this is a horror story.
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Skaven I think are warhammer werrats. Either that or skyrim giant rats.
Feed your Cat bro. Kitty needs wets.
The problem with these stories is that they are from one person's perspective. Not saying they are all fake, but there is often bias.
I posted an insane story that happened back in high school and most people called BS. It wasn't, if anything, I toned it way down, but we're talking decades past and, I'm human, so I'm sure I have personal bias too... I am totally aware of how much of an arrogant prick I was in HS, so I was no saint, but I was nowhere near as diabolical as the other dudes in the story.
The whole post seems very skaven to me :D
God as much as i like this channel, i had to stop watching this video. The absolute confision around the totally-not-skaven thing (as well as the mispronunciation) was just too painful for me to sit through
Pet the cats plz
people weren't upset you didn't know what skaven was, they were annoying you couldn't comprehend what "totally-not-skaven" meant.
Skaven from Warhammer fantasy. Come on lol. His world is based off Warhammer fantasy. =D
OP set out to sabotage a game they weren't into instead of voicing objections and adjusting/leaving. Others in the group didn't help, but OP seems like they are indeed the main problem.
Agree with all you say, but also...a) how come EVERY time I hear "to make a long story short..." it does NOT in fact do so; and b) I'm still stuck with this OP's definition of "Good" - you're going to try to ambush and slaughter other PCs TO RETURN THE GAME TO GOOD? Who does that? Who thinks that's something a good character would do?
Warhammer Skaven?
Feed your cat.
as reddit would say "ETAH" - everyone's the asshole here
DM was garbo for such a hideous concept, and for allowing the other PCs to do whatever they want
OP was trash for joining a game HE KNEW HE WOULDNT LIKE, and then trying to force-change it
Alchemist was a douche for acting like he did - maybe only the Druid is innocent in all this....
There's should be OP is sus bingo for this.
1:28 seriously, people get butthurt over something so small and calls it toxic. These folks need some thicker skin.
So... after hearing this story... sounds like almost a direct ripoff of warrhammer vermintide. Hence the "not" skaven comments. If you're not in the know, vermintide is basically left 4 dead, but warhammer, with a emphasis on melee. Great video game, not sure why anyone would think "hey! Let's do this in dnd." Maybe a "All flesh must be eaten" game. Because it's basically zombie survival. Idk, either way, whole thing sounds like a mess.
I think OP needs to go back and take a English class
Sounds like everyone involved sucks. The DM has no clue what they are doing pulling that group together. The player(s) did not coordinate at all. I am guessing ... no "session 0". Disaster from the get go.
Warhammer?
From what I can see...
The New DM gave the OP an armour but gave Alchemist servant NPCs that are essentially carbon copies of the Alchemist and the underlying slant seems to be this:
New DM is a wannabe edgelord.
OP went good guy. Edgelord DM rewarded those embracing his edge lord notions while OP refused.
Whole story is dumb.
You, Luke, nailed it. OP should have just declined the invitation and moved along.
SOME people make lousy players but good GMs. Others make good players but lousy GMs. Sone make good or great borh... but, edgelord wannabes seldom are even decent at either.
Disagree. OP was informed of of what kind of game it was, still agreed to play with the INTENTION of trying change the campaign by their own admission. Then OP got mad that the players that werent trying to derail the campaign got cool things and they didnt so they then attempted to ruin those players' fun. OP is absolute garbage and by most accounts seems to be the toxic and passive aggressive one.
@@feralfanatic6954 you honestly think idiotic edgelord wannabe handled ANY of this correctly?
The biggest mistake OP made was even giving Edgelord the satisfaction of wasting his time with a pathetically bad 'campaign', and I have enough DM experience to be quite sure that 'New DM' is the worst sort of participant, aside from those who don't know reality from fantasy
@@CountAdolfo you are assuming that everything op said was correct. He never mentioned what was toxic prior to new dm running the campaign. throughout the whole novel he wrote, he himself showed toxicity, You are a douchebag regardless of anyone else if your intent is to derail campaigns and ruin other peoples fun by pk'ing.
Luke, you got far too worked up, go have some bacon, you'll feel better!
All out of bacon... :(
@@theDMLair I'm pretty sure that's one of the signs the world is ending!
Why didn't you review this story before the video? Might have saved time and made the expose flow better.
I have three possible explanation's for this guy joining this assholes game #1 this player is not a very Inteligent person#2 they just wanted to create a story to post on social media#3 there was no game in the first place and they made up the story for some random reason.
i think there is another possibility that maybe goes together with #1. it's that he sucumbed to peer pressure/ goign with the majority
I'm convinced most of these dnd didaster stories are made up or exaggerated for effect.
Honestly, listening to that story, it feels like both sides were assholes in how they handled the situation. To say "I set up an ambush to kill other PCs, got killed instead, went ballistic". Gee, how the heck do you think the other two players would have felt if their characters were slaughtered by a successful ambush? Say they shouldn't be mad because it was justified to "make the campaign more lawful" and they would have gone "I've seen the light, I shall make a lawful good character now"? At that point the OP is sounding like a self righteous prick who was trying to brute force the campaign into being what he wanted, and apparently got mad because he wasn't being rewarded for trying to be a paragon in a dark fantasy setting. I'm sorry, once you conspire both IC and OOC to kill other players, 99% of the time YATA.
People are babies
I don't like grimdark (i stay away from warhammer as far as i can for that reason) but this setting looks like a fun one for people who do.
Everyone sucks here
New DM should have all his books taken away except the player's handbook (maybe that one too). OP should grow up and learn to make better life choices.
Your cat dont like you talking so loud. Thats why its biting you.... Or its just a jerk. Its a cat after all. :P
I don't get why DM Lair is being simpathetic with this player tho, am I missing somehting?
From what I get OP didn't like New DM, the campaign AND the characters... So he tried to kill the characters, forcing New DM to write a campaign he liked.
They say people unknowingly accuse others of their own flaws, because that's what we can see more easily. And this is a prime example IMO.
In the Urban Dictionary. Skaven - A slang term used to describe one who has a lack of female companions.
This whole story is wild...it has to be satire, right? FDM here of 25+ years and toxic players get ejected from my table -- WE DO NOT GIVE TOXIC PEOPLE POWER. You have a choice to join the game and you hated and you didn't trust the DM and .... .... .... you showed up with pizza and chips? Like. Watch football or something instead that day. AYTA? Kinda? I mean. To yourself at least. You joined a game you know was going to go south and THEN got upset when you died. Soooooooo. Yeaaaaaaaaah. NewDM sucks, but you kinda do too for putting yourself in that situation willingly.
Oh - a Skaven is a rat-human dude from Warhammer, btw :) they're kind of used a lot, and so when other titles make rat-humans, they often reflect those original ones from Warhammer. It's kind of a tongue in cheek to say "these are DEFINITELY not a copy of Warhammer, wink wink". HTH?
@@clairemack2750 Yeah OP was bad too. He joined a dark gritty fantasy scenario that he didn't like, made a good aligned PC where his party is mostly neutral or evil, tried to get his way by changing the campaign premise of the DM, then literally planned with another player out of table to kill another player's PC! OP could have literally avoided all that.
This adventure sounds like a shit show
See I'm too rude to not call out bullshit like players cloning themselves or other BS that's breaking the game.
95% of the time I find these horror stories come from bad players who act like total duche bags and when they don’t get their way they want to blame everyone else except take action for their actions. This story was no different. Sounded like a dude who, or chick, who felt they knew how to do things better and when nothing went their way they tried to derail the game and then blamed it on others.
Classic projection.
lol; player posting on reddit to complains on why DM ignore them after the said player is trying to force its playstyle on other playrers, pvp them when they don't agree and rage quitting because the dm did'nt let the pvp happens