Just got an MKE 600 and I’m very satisfied. Coming from a Rode Video Mic NTG which sounds objectively good but the internal battery stress is a huge problem for me 😅
Which one is better when you don't use any transmiter, I mean you connect that directly to camera with 3,5mm jack. Rode Videomic NTG or Sennheiser MKE600?
Just wanna askin indoor situation wjere the room is nkt perfectly treated acoustically , if you think the mke600 is better than rode NTG and videoMiC ii go and the deity s2s because I was told that long shortgun like mke600 is not good, and deity s2s with shorter length is better. Any insights? Thanks
This is called the "comb effect"and it is can be a disadvantage, but I have never experienced it with any of these mics. I suspect it is only an issues in specific, and likely somewhat rare, situations. I think the MKE 600 is still considered a short shotgun mic, that comb area, which is what matters, is only about 1 inch longer than the s-mic 2s.
@@markwiemels really appreciates your insights! That would give me the confidence ti get the mke600. I also have not experienced the comb effect so far with video NTG. Btw, are there any more personal reason why you love the MKe600 more than the others?
Man is it just me who thinks the 440 is far superior to any other mic when catching ambient sound along with one´s voice? If you want to isolate your voice then get a more proper mic from all of them. The others just feel and sound faulty and as if trying to desperately cut the ambient sound and only collect the voice in front of them but as a result everything just sounds forced. Whereas the 440 just pics the ambient along with the voice much more harmoniously and it sounds way more natural along with the spatial sound as well to go along with it. Really a no brainer for me. Want to record your voice outdoors and get the ambient aswell? Get the freaking 440. Want to isolate your voice? Get a proper good lavalier mic and get it closer to the source of sound you want to capture (that would be your mouth) or get a mic that is even more suitable for cutting ambient sound and isolate voice if you’re using it as an on camera shotgun mic. Great review btw! You actually sold me on the 440 on the other review you made on it so good job on that one, I’m just surprised by the comments and the little love the 440 gets.
This video helped me a lot with my purchase. The various in studio tests and really showed major differences in my opinion. Others sounded boxy or hollow compared to the MKE600. If anything, the Deity S-Mic 2S was the better of the comparable but still not a full as the 600.
Thank you for a very helpful video. I especially appreciate the refreshing return to the MKE600 ("this is what it sooounds..."). And special thanks for the MKE400 in outdoor tests. The 400 does a great job in the field!
Mark, how is the self-noise of your MKE 440? I have one and it seems to produce a lot of white noise (kind of preamp white noise) in a quiet room. Recording on a A7SIII with in camera volume set to 1. But same issue in Canon camera, so probably not the camera preamp issue.
Thanks for the video. Do you think it's better to set the camera body to -12db and +20 on the MKE400 or the camera body at +0 and the leave the MKE400 in the middle.
Thanks for this great review. I love my MKE600, but a bit too long for camera top.use. The MKE400 os great sounding, but has a big-big-big flaw: with any camera or sound recorder I have tried it, there is some terrible ground hum when the recording device is powered from mains. It can only be used if the camera or recorder is running from batteries. Sennheiser admitted this flaw. I had two of these mics, one I returned because of this issue. The other mic does exactly the same, but I cannot return it for some reasons. So.I use it, but only when the cameras are self powered. The Videomc NTG is great, but is somehow not compatible with some cameras. On the Canon M50 for example the safety channel audio.quality is unusable, and also, microphone is distorted when audio level in the camera is below, say, 10 notches. You need to raise.gain on the camera higher and microphone gain lower.
Thanks how I use the 400 and thee 600 too. Might be worth trying a normal TRS cable with the NTG, see if that sorts it out, I did notice it uses an unusual cable that must be for auto sensing the device, and changing the way it outputs the signal.
@@markwiemels I have tried it with various cables, seems unrelated. I somehow suspect it has to do with the impedance, the Rode VM NTG use low impedance (10 Ohms), but some recording devices might not really like it. The Canon M50 seems not to for example, especially when the camera audio gain is low. This is known to Rode, they suggest this with certain Sony cameras, so I tried on the Canon and it does work to some extent. However, it does not solve the safety channel issue, that is, no matter what, still unusable on the M50. I tested this with a RUclipsr in another country, he has the exact same finding. On other cameras or recorders the same mic works just fine. As for the MKE400, had I known of this terrible ground buzz issue, I wouldn't have bought it, it makes it nearly impossible to use it for longer shooting sessions when you want the camera, phone or sound recorder on a charger or mains supply. Strangely enough, no review on YT speaks of that issue. I have tried nearly a dozen different devices with it, all of them has this issue. Pretty annoying.
Thanks a lot for this video. A lot of relevant microphones for comparison. It's an excellent idea to refresh our ears by going back to the MKE 600 after each new microphone. (Got the idea from Bandrew?) What is not so great is that when you do it, you use a very different voice. It goes up and down in an almost singing manner, and it sounds as if you're really tired of having to do it. If that's the case, you could just do one take, and paste it as many times as needed. (I know, Bandrew doesn't do that, but HE never tires of hearing himself talk). By the way, I do not share your enthusiasm for the MKE 400. For me it had the least pleasant sound. The MKE 440 sounded better than I'd expected. I own one and often use it, and I love the directional stereo, but not necessarily the sound quality; it doesn't give a very rich low end. But somehow it wasn't so bad here, and better (to my ears) than the MKE 400. P.S. A few days ago I ordered the Audio-Technica AT8024, a switchable mono/stereo camera mic. It should be arriving tomorrow or monday. Can't wait!
Thanks! It’s so hard getting audio levels right when recording yourself and changing mics over and over, it took way to long to make, but I think it’s a useful comparison.
Thank you for the comprehensive review! I currently use a Synco Mic D-2 for voiceovers and like it a lot. No, it does not compare to the MKH-416 and I didn't expect it to. However, I want to upgrade to a better mic and the MKE600 RUclips video reviews are really impressing me. I can't afford the MKH-416 and will most likely get the MKE600.
MKE 600 sounds great to my ears 😊 I’m looking for a shotgun microphone and this could be it 🤔 Did you do any audio processing in post or is it “straight out of camera”?
Many thanks...this video is meaningful and most helpful. I use a walk-in closet, that I've also treated, for voice recordings. ...wish I had space for a stand & boom pole as I want to use a shotgun mic overhead and out of my frontal space. Or, maybe I should wait a save-up for the 416 and be done...🙂Again, thanks. Peace.
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Is the cable xlr to mini jack you use to connect the mic to the camera balanced or unbalanced? Super helpful video btw, thanks!
The MKE 440 is amazing for spatial sound, love the NTG as well for what it does, The MKE 600 sounds the best overall, but was remarkably surprised by the Deity S3 Pro even though it has a couple caveats. The tonal quality on the Deity surprised me...
Thank you for your great and honest content! Which would you recommend for shooting outside in nature - the Videomic NTG or the NTG5? I want to record my voice AND the sounds around me.
Even with my basic One dollar in ear earphone, MKE 600 stood out, especially in the waterfall scene. The on camera mics like the d3 pro, videomic ntg looks bad (like loud screeching neighbour) compared to the mke 600.
@@nikolairazuvayev7987 yes I use it on one. I think that on Sennheiser’s website they have some videos that show it being used on one. I use the K&M one that is rock solid.
@Chris Bogart Awesome! This has finalized our decision. Thank you so much! Do you have any recommendations for a pole that’s a little cheaper? I’d like to stay under $400.
@@nikolairazuvayev7987 I really do not know what sources you have available or your requirements. My only advice is to stay away from cheap knockoffs that are offered. Get a good quality one and you won’t never regret it
Yeah, the 600 is pretty bloody good. I think it might be the worlds most underrated mic. In side by side comparison is sounds very similar to the MKH-416.
Hey Mark, question for you! What would you recommend for me to purchase for a run and gun on camera shotgun mic as a wedding videographer. I saw your video on the MKE 440 and now MKE 600 not sure which one I like more!
If you are using it in a normal camera hot or cold shoe, the 400. On a boom, or on a cinema camera setup that accepts an xlr mic, then the 600. I would also choose the 600 as a boom mic.
What's your camera's audio input level when mounting MKE600? I have an MKE 600 and a Rode VideoMic NTG. And I'll have to set up my Sony A7M4's input level to 12-14 to match the loudness of Rode Videomic at camera input level of 1. Is this normal?
I’m not sure what you’re asking but all these mics except the 440 are mono. It’s how you have it set up in camera or recorder. Making a left channel recording mono is easy with all daws or video editing.
I am still waiting for the head to head RP /M6 side by side photo comparison : ) photo not video . I have seen it by another , but not stock in person doing it : )
Wow! Great comparisons. Thank you for creating this content. I've had each of those mics in my shopping cart and backed out every time due to already owning MKE 600s. The large size is the only con I've had considering its competitive price.
Thanks for the outside off axis review. Did you have the mic level in the camera set to the same Manual level for all the mics or was it set to Auto level?
@@markwiemels Im starting to learn this. Not only versatile but dare I say possibly the only mic one needs for voice applications...if its a good one anyways
Hello Mr Wiemels. im commenting from the Caribbean twin Island, of Trinidad and Tobago. we really enjoyed the comprehensive and well explained review, presented here. can we ask you to send a snap shot of the equalization you used to process the in-studio Sennheiser MKE 600 and the Rode NTG 5. we ask, so as to get a better idea, of how to set our equalizers
I noticed that when you did the outdoors test you were stood at different distances away from mic to mic because your head is in the frame with space around your head to spare with some tests but then with other tests your head is partly out of the frame. This suggests you were stood at slightly different distances between different mic tests. This may result in a slight difference between sound quality between the microphones. You should of ideally put a mark on the ground and stood on it as you test each microphone so the distance from the camera to you is the same. The Rode Video Mic Go II had excellent rejection from the side and back and it sounded as though rejection of the waterfall sound from the side and rear was better than the Sennheiser MKE600. I'm impressed. I'm listening on Alesis MiActives mkII monitors which are widely agree upon by many including pro sound engineers to be excellent and accurate budget monitors. Plus my room is minimally but effectively treated acoustically with acoustic foam on the walls. I also use an Apogee Boom audio interface which is an absolutely excellent audio interface with probably the best sound quality converters for it's price. I think the Sennheiser MKE600 and Videomic NTG have the best sound quality, but the Rode VideoMic NTG has the best clarity in the midrange to upper midrange. The MKE200 has a very distinct lack of low frequency.
I was trying to do it based in distance to the mic, rather then the lens, so they were all the same. I probably still didn’t get it exactly right, but that was the idea.
@@markwiemels Yeah I thought that might be the case but it was in my opinion wrong because the microphones were mounted on the camera. The best way to test microphones is always to do what you'd class as real world tests and in a real world situation where you're video'ing someone I doubt you'd ask them to stand closer so the microphone picks up their voice better if the act of doing that means part of their face or head is ot of the frame. But thanks for even bothering to test the microphones though because a lot of people who test equipment don't really make much effort.
I don't get it. I bought an MKE600 based on reviews like this. Now I'm finding that it really picks up a lot of echo in this room. And based on what I'm reading elsewhere and seeing in other videos, it seems like actually, shotgun mics like the MKE600 should not be used indoors, especially in small rooms, unless you've done a whole lot of sound treatment to the room. Feels like I wasted my money buying this, unless I go and buy a load of sound blankets and other things like that to fix up the echoes in the room. Before that, I was just using an SM58 and it sounded great, but I was hoping to both get the mic to be on-camera and out of the shot, so it's a more flexible setup, and was hoping to even improve the sound. Well, the mic is on-camera and out of frame... but the sound now is really echoey and much lower quality than the SM58. Basically not useable, I think. Feels like videos like this, about all those shotgun mics, should really have a big disclaimer about the amount of sound treatment the room needs before the shotgun mics actually work indoors. Unless I've got something basic wrong, in which case please do let me know...
What if you changed the direction so that there are soft surfaces in the direction the mic is pointing at. For example catch the mouth from the top or side. If it's still not good put a rug on the floor or blanket on the wall behind the mic and it may be acceptable. Would you use a shotgun mic in a small echo filled room? No! You'd get a mic like a Shure MV7 which can hide a lot of room issues.
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Just got an MKE 600 and I’m very satisfied. Coming from a Rode Video Mic NTG which sounds objectively good but the internal battery stress is a huge problem for me 😅
I have been walking around my whole house saying “this is how it souuuunnddss”
Thank you! Great comparison video!
You are most welcome.
Which one is better when you don't use any transmiter, I mean you connect that directly to camera with 3,5mm jack.
Rode Videomic NTG or Sennheiser MKE600?
Just wanna askin indoor situation wjere the room is nkt perfectly treated acoustically , if you think the mke600 is better than rode NTG and videoMiC ii go and the deity s2s because I was told that long shortgun like mke600 is not good, and deity s2s with shorter length is better. Any insights? Thanks
This is called the "comb effect"and it is can be a disadvantage, but I have never experienced it with any of these mics. I suspect it is only an issues in specific, and likely somewhat rare, situations. I think the MKE 600 is still considered a short shotgun mic, that comb area, which is what matters, is only about 1 inch longer than the s-mic 2s.
@@markwiemels really appreciates your insights! That would give me the confidence ti get the mke600. I also have not experienced the comb effect so far with video NTG. Btw, are there any more personal reason why you love the MKe600 more than the others?
Man is it just me who thinks the 440 is far superior to any other mic when catching ambient sound along with one´s voice? If you want to isolate your voice then get a more proper mic from all of them. The others just feel and sound faulty and as if trying to desperately cut the ambient sound and only collect the voice in front of them but as a result everything just sounds forced. Whereas the 440 just pics the ambient along with the voice much more harmoniously and it sounds way more natural along with the spatial sound as well to go along with it. Really a no brainer for me. Want to record your voice outdoors and get the ambient aswell? Get the freaking 440. Want to isolate your voice? Get a proper good lavalier mic and get it closer to the source of sound you want to capture (that would be your mouth) or get a mic that is even more suitable for cutting ambient sound and isolate voice if you’re using it as an on camera shotgun mic. Great review btw! You actually sold me on the 440 on the other review you made on it so good job on that one, I’m just surprised by the comments and the little love the 440 gets.
This video helped me a lot with my purchase. The various in studio tests and really showed major differences in my opinion. Others sounded boxy or hollow compared to the MKE600. If anything, the Deity S-Mic 2S was the better of the comparable but still not a full as the 600.
Thank you for a very helpful video. I especially appreciate the refreshing return to the MKE600 ("this is what it sooounds..."). And special thanks for the MKE400 in outdoor tests. The 400 does a great job in the field!
Thank you for your kind words!
Mark, how is the self-noise of your MKE 440? I have one and it seems to produce a lot of white noise (kind of preamp white noise) in a quiet room. Recording on a A7SIII with in camera volume set to 1. But same issue in Canon camera, so probably not the camera preamp issue.
MKE 600 by far the best sounding microphone.
Idk if it's just me but the Rode and the MKE 600 sound exactly the same
Thanks for the video. Do you think it's better to set the camera body to -12db and +20 on the MKE400 or the camera body at +0 and the leave the MKE400 in the middle.
This can vary based on the preamps in the camera. Just record a bit of silence with both settings and compare the noise floor.
Thanks for this great review. I love my MKE600, but a bit too long for camera top.use. The MKE400 os great sounding, but has a big-big-big flaw: with any camera or sound recorder I have tried it, there is some terrible ground hum when the recording device is powered from mains. It can only be used if the camera or recorder is running from batteries. Sennheiser admitted this flaw. I had two of these mics, one I returned because of this issue. The other mic does exactly the same, but I cannot return it for some reasons. So.I use it, but only when the cameras are self powered. The Videomc NTG is great, but is somehow not compatible with some cameras. On the Canon M50 for example the safety channel audio.quality is unusable, and also, microphone is distorted when audio level in the camera is below, say, 10 notches. You need to raise.gain on the camera higher and microphone gain lower.
Thanks how I use the 400 and thee 600 too. Might be worth trying a normal TRS cable with the NTG, see if that sorts it out, I did notice it uses an unusual cable that must be for auto sensing the device, and changing the way it outputs the signal.
@@markwiemels I have tried it with various cables, seems unrelated. I somehow suspect it has to do with the impedance, the Rode VM NTG use low impedance (10 Ohms), but some recording devices might not really like it. The Canon M50 seems not to for example, especially when the camera audio gain is low. This is known to Rode, they suggest this with certain Sony cameras, so I tried on the Canon and it does work to some extent. However, it does not solve the safety channel issue, that is, no matter what, still unusable on the M50. I tested this with a RUclipsr in another country, he has the exact same finding. On other cameras or recorders the same mic works just fine. As for the MKE400, had I known of this terrible ground buzz issue, I wouldn't have bought it, it makes it nearly impossible to use it for longer shooting sessions when you want the camera, phone or sound recorder on a charger or mains supply. Strangely enough, no review on YT speaks of that issue. I have tried nearly a dozen different devices with it, all of them has this issue. Pretty annoying.
Thanks for this helpful comparison video. I like the MKE 600 over MKE 400 and VideoMic NTG.
Thanks a lot for this video. A lot of relevant microphones for comparison.
It's an excellent idea to refresh our ears by going back to the MKE 600 after each new microphone.
(Got the idea from Bandrew?)
What is not so great is that when you do it, you use a very different voice. It goes up and down in an almost singing manner, and it sounds as if you're really tired of having to do it.
If that's the case, you could just do one take, and paste it as many times as needed.
(I know, Bandrew doesn't do that, but HE never tires of hearing himself talk).
By the way, I do not share your enthusiasm for the MKE 400. For me it had the least pleasant sound.
The MKE 440 sounded better than I'd expected. I own one and often use it, and I love the directional stereo, but not necessarily the sound quality; it doesn't give a very rich low end. But somehow it wasn't so bad here, and better (to my ears) than the MKE 400.
P.S. A few days ago I ordered the Audio-Technica AT8024, a switchable mono/stereo camera mic. It should be arriving tomorrow or monday. Can't wait!
Awesome break down. Thanks for taking the time to put this all together Mark!
Thank you for your kind words! You are most welcome.
This is a hell of a test. Well done! Fantastic job!
Thanks! It’s so hard getting audio levels right when recording yourself and changing mics over and over, it took way to long to make, but I think it’s a useful comparison.
There are surprisingly few OUTDOOR tests for budget shotgun mics. I need one for an all outdoor film shoot and this was such a great resource
Thank you for the comprehensive review! I currently use a Synco Mic D-2 for voiceovers and like it a lot. No, it does not compare to the MKH-416 and I didn't expect it to. However, I want to upgrade to a better mic and the MKE600 RUclips video reviews are really impressing me. I can't afford the MKH-416 and will most likely get the MKE600.
MKE 600 sounds great to my ears 😊 I’m looking for a shotgun microphone and this could be it 🤔 Did you do any audio processing in post or is it “straight out of camera”?
No processing, right from the camera. I was pretty impressed too.
the 90 degrees noise reduction of the 600 is monstruos
The Mix is the key
Many thanks...this video is meaningful and most helpful. I use a walk-in closet, that I've also treated, for voice recordings. ...wish I had space for a stand & boom pole as I want to use a shotgun mic overhead and out of my frontal space. Or, maybe I should wait a save-up for the 416 and be done...🙂Again, thanks. Peace.
Is the cable xlr to mini jack you use to connect the mic to the camera balanced or unbalanced? Super helpful video btw, thanks!
The MKE 440 is amazing for spatial sound, love the NTG as well for what it does, The MKE 600 sounds the best overall, but was remarkably surprised by the Deity S3 Pro even though it has a couple caveats. The tonal quality on the Deity surprised me...
Thank you for your great and honest content! Which would you recommend for shooting outside in nature - the
Videomic NTG or the NTG5? I want to record my voice AND the sounds around me.
mke600 is not perfect but is cleanest and most detailed. there are some little distortion in it sound still.
how did you hang the sound blankets on the wall. Would love to do that inside an apartment without destroying the walls
3M hooks, big ones.
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can you do a review, of the Sennheiser MK4 and the Audio Technica AT897? Thank you in advance Sir.
ntg 5 is not 500 dollars, they do not sell it alone, you have to buy a 500 dollars kit with all the stuff that costs money too
Great review! Did you hook your MKE600 to an audio interface or directly to your camera? Hope you notice Thanks.
Into camera.
Not hearing the birds on the MKE 600 amazing video 👍🏾👍🏾
It’s big difference if immuring with audio jack 3,5 mm and if with xlr phantom power ?
Even with my basic One dollar in ear earphone, MKE 600 stood out, especially in the waterfall scene. The on camera mics like the d3 pro, videomic ntg looks bad (like loud screeching neighbour) compared to the mke 600.
I love the term “Audio Palette “ I have the MKE600 and have never regretted buying it and love the sound.
Would the MKE 600 work on a boom pole? I am looking for one I can use in a room and out doors, both out of frame.
@@nikolairazuvayev7987 yes I use it on one. I think that on Sennheiser’s website they have some videos that show it being used on one. I use the K&M one that is rock solid.
@Chris Bogart Awesome! This has finalized our decision. Thank you so much! Do you have any recommendations for a pole that’s a little cheaper? I’d like to stay under $400.
@@nikolairazuvayev7987 I really do not know what sources you have available or your requirements. My only advice is to stay away from cheap knockoffs that are offered. Get a good quality one and you won’t never regret it
@@chrisbogart687 Alright. Thank you! I will look into different K&M ones, would you mind sending the model you got? I see a lot of them.
Always surprised how good the Videomicro sounds for what it is..
Thanks for a great and informative video. Was debating to get rode NTG or MKE 600 and MKE 600 is a clear winner for me on this one.
Based on this video, I just bought the MKE 600. Thank You!!
Thank you for your video. Amazing
I have the rode video if ntg and it peaks like crazy. I switched to the Rode NTG 3. Plus it gives my tinny voice some bass 🤣🤣
The MKE 600 sounds amazing!!
Yeah, the 600 is pretty bloody good. I think it might be the worlds most underrated mic. In side by side comparison is sounds very similar to the MKH-416.
Great review. Appreciate the time you took out for this!
is there any difference about mke 600 , with xlr and just with battery usage? about quality
I have not done that comparison, is a good question.
Hey Mark, question for you! What would you recommend for me to purchase for a run and gun on camera shotgun mic as a wedding videographer. I saw your video on the MKE 440 and now MKE 600 not sure which one I like more!
If you are using it in a normal camera hot or cold shoe, the 400. On a boom, or on a cinema camera setup that accepts an xlr mic, then the 600. I would also choose the 600 as a boom mic.
Wonderful video - great comparison scenario! Thank you!
What's your camera's audio input level when mounting MKE600? I have an MKE 600 and a Rode VideoMic NTG. And I'll have to set up my Sony A7M4's input level to 12-14 to match the loudness of Rode Videomic at camera input level of 1. Is this normal?
This doesn’t sound abnormal, rode mics tend to have a very hot signal.
Video mic go 2 ftw!!!
It’s a beauty for the money.
Does the mke 600 only record to the left channel when connected to the mic? I’ve read somewhere that it doesn’t record to both left and right
I’m not sure what you’re asking but all these mics except the 440 are mono. It’s how you have it set up in camera or recorder. Making a left channel recording mono is easy with all daws or video editing.
I am still waiting for the head to head RP /M6 side by side photo comparison : ) photo not video .
I have seen it by another , but not stock in person doing it : )
Will try to do something.
great vid
Wow my mic 😊
Thanks for this, very helpful
Great comparison! I was impressed with the performance of the Wireless Go II 😲
You and me both!
Wow! Great comparisons. Thank you for creating this content. I've had each of those mics in my shopping cart and backed out every time due to already owning MKE 600s. The large size is the only con I've had considering its competitive price.
Thanks. Yes, the 600 really is more at home as a studio mic.
Perfect video - thanks
You are most welcome.
Thanks for the outside off axis review. Did you have the mic level in the camera set to the same Manual level for all the mics or was it set to Auto level?
I changed the gain based on what each mic needed. Then tweaked in editing.
@@markwiemels Out of the shotgun mics without a boost feature, which one require the leased amount of camera gain?
@@JSmithTCF rode video mic go II and the Rode Videomicro are probably the best for that, just going off of memory and experience.
can you use it on an i phone 14?
Yes, but you will need the correct adapter.
I'm loving shotguns lately
They turn out to be far more versatile than one would think.
@@markwiemels Im starting to learn this. Not only versatile but dare I say possibly the only mic one needs for voice applications...if its a good one anyways
Hello Mr Wiemels. im commenting from the Caribbean twin Island, of Trinidad and Tobago. we really enjoyed the comprehensive and well explained review, presented here. can we ask you to send a snap shot of the equalization you used to process the in-studio Sennheiser MKE 600 and the Rode NTG 5. we ask, so as to get a better idea, of how to set our equalizers
Great review 👍
Thank you so much!
Thank you for your efforts
You are most welcome.
@@markwiemels just got 2 in the mail and ready to use them - after this video!!! For my BMCC 6ks
I noticed that when you did the outdoors test you were stood at different distances away from mic to mic because your head is in the frame with space around your head to spare with some tests but then with other tests your head is partly out of the frame. This suggests you were stood at slightly different distances between different mic tests. This may result in a slight difference between sound quality between the microphones. You should of ideally put a mark on the ground and stood on it as you test each microphone so the distance from the camera to you is the same. The Rode Video Mic Go II had excellent rejection from the side and back and it sounded as though rejection of the waterfall sound from the side and rear was better than the Sennheiser MKE600. I'm impressed. I'm listening on Alesis MiActives mkII monitors which are widely agree upon by many including pro sound engineers to be excellent and accurate budget monitors. Plus my room is minimally but effectively treated acoustically with acoustic foam on the walls. I also use an Apogee Boom audio interface which is an absolutely excellent audio interface with probably the best sound quality converters for it's price. I think the Sennheiser MKE600 and Videomic NTG have the best sound quality, but the Rode VideoMic NTG has the best clarity in the midrange to upper midrange. The MKE200 has a very distinct lack of low frequency.
I was trying to do it based in distance to the mic, rather then the lens, so they were all the same. I probably still didn’t get it exactly right, but that was the idea.
@@markwiemels Yeah I thought that might be the case but it was in my opinion wrong because the microphones were mounted on the camera. The best way to test microphones is always to do what you'd class as real world tests and in a real world situation where you're video'ing someone I doubt you'd ask them to stand closer so the microphone picks up their voice better if the act of doing that means part of their face or head is ot of the frame. But thanks for even bothering to test the microphones though because a lot of people who test equipment don't really make much effort.
Great comparison!
Thanks!
I don't get it. I bought an MKE600 based on reviews like this. Now I'm finding that it really picks up a lot of echo in this room. And based on what I'm reading elsewhere and seeing in other videos, it seems like actually, shotgun mics like the MKE600 should not be used indoors, especially in small rooms, unless you've done a whole lot of sound treatment to the room. Feels like I wasted my money buying this, unless I go and buy a load of sound blankets and other things like that to fix up the echoes in the room. Before that, I was just using an SM58 and it sounded great, but I was hoping to both get the mic to be on-camera and out of the shot, so it's a more flexible setup, and was hoping to even improve the sound.
Well, the mic is on-camera and out of frame... but the sound now is really echoey and much lower quality than the SM58. Basically not useable, I think.
Feels like videos like this, about all those shotgun mics, should really have a big disclaimer about the amount of sound treatment the room needs before the shotgun mics actually work indoors. Unless I've got something basic wrong, in which case please do let me know...
What if you changed the direction so that there are soft surfaces in the direction the mic is pointing at. For example catch the mouth from the top or side. If it's still not good put a rug on the floor or blanket on the wall behind the mic and it may be acceptable.
Would you use a shotgun mic in a small echo filled room? No! You'd get a mic like a Shure MV7 which can hide a lot of room issues.