Cyberpunk Edgerunners Episode 8 Reaction & Review | Stay | Netflix & Studio Trigger
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You can't necessarily "de-chrome", but you can just replace stuff with just basic prosthetics that aren't much of a strain on you mentally.
There is a process, in the TTRPG. It is really big, and basically takes like...two or three years. You have to go to Europe, special clinics and they can decrome. Basically takes the character out of the story. Very few characters were able to handle massive amounts of chrome...Smasher, and Shaitan come to mind.
High tech, low life. Live fast, die young. Only legends get named drinks at the Afterlife.
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Is that how it works in red or in 2020 ?
@@tonydanatop4912 I'm guessing 2020. In Red and presumably 2077 you can just get biological replacements made of your own cloned tissue, or medical grade cyberware that has no impact on causing cyberpsychosis.
Yes, in the TTRPG you can get medical grade cybernetics which do not cause humanity loss. There is also therapy you can get to regain some of your lost humanity.
The very idea of de-chroming is itself a death sentence - either directly by better chromed cyberpunks or indirectly by starvation due to competing with better chromed cyberpunks.
To get away with this, you need to get rich in a hyper capitalist, interconnected economy where the legal margins are razor thin and crime absolutely pays. Then you have to lose your many massive chrome advantages while hanging onto enough capital not become a victim.
I think the youtuber Echidnut said it best. The story's fast paced delivery is actually integral to the story. David never gets a break, and neither should the audience. And that's what makes this show so damn memorable, fun, and emotionally draining.
Its a shame that Rebecca is suffering from "unrequited love" because it's clear she wants to evolve her relationship with David to more than "just friends" but I think she is aware that his heart belongs to Lucy, still pretty cute of her still trying to hit on him. Rebecca best girl
Also dont worry, "wishing the show to be a bit longer" or "having more time with the characters and show off moe their bonds" is a common criticism with the show that a lot of people have but I think that's how the creators of the show intended to make it, unfortunately. Rather than being rushed, I think this a dense anime, filled with lots of stuff each episode that doesn't give room to breath
But like I just love it so much, wanting more of a good show is not a bad position to be in😅
It is like there's 3 levels to a metaphor here. David's Sandevestan made it so that he would be incredibly fast but be doomed to end soon and tragically. The life of a Cyberpunk is always going to be similar, burning bright and fast and ending tragically, and so is the show itself.
David was kind of with with Lucy because Maine encouraged it and that was who he called. If that didn't happen it seems he could have found a better match with Rebecca. She likes David for who he was as a human and worries about him. Lucy is way less human and pretty oblivious that David is losing his humanity partly because of her.
Yep. He got TRIGGERED.
I realised there's pattern: Odd numbered episodes are all epic, and even ones are heartbreaking.
omg... that pattern checks out.. good eye
Lucy isn't hunting other runners to protect herself, she's doing it to protect David. Which is EXACTLY why she's not telling him. She knows he'd charge in head on and there's no way they could take on Arasaka directly.
Sure, the story could easily have supported 2-4 more episodes, or even another season. But I kind of prefer it this way. Life in Night City is fast paced, good things in particular are incredibly fleeting, and Reaper always comes calling long before your time. Best you can really hope for is getting off a burst of shots and final insult before it reduces you to a red splat. Structure like this doesn't make the show better, and I can understand how it detracts from someone's enjoyment, but it's very Cyberpunk.
That's a way to justify bad pacing
@@razzy9172 fast pacing doesn't necessarily equate to bad pacing.
3 seasons? Jesus. That’s so indulgent, that’s what happens in shows that care more about getting a good episode count for money and not just telling one concise story. This was a story about David, that’s it, this is what happens when there’s a clear vision for a story with no room for filler, and it’s good storytelling. Maybe you could argue adding one more episode or so, but the fact of the matter is that the show isn’t trying to be some larger saga with loads of subplots, it’s one story.
i see this " it could be in 2 seasons" opinion all over and i cant agree at all.
one of the main reason this show is such a huge success is because its tight and fast AF.
cdpr didnt had the budget and luxury to make 2 seasons right away to begin with
Just looking for reactions to fill the gap that this show has left in me and these vids by far are the best medicine
Well said I can’t think of the last show that left me that hungry for more😢
Couldn't have said it better. Reactions like these, plus playing the game over and over.
Welcome to Trigger shows.
There are a few of their shows where there is a great multi stage, multi episode tournament arc set up against a stable of established tough bad guys and the main character just says f*** you all come at me in one go. One episode instead of a series, that's trigger speed and style.
Great reaction video. I get your first reaction that the show is moving at a fast pace and barraging you with events, but I would point out that I think that was the point, the life of an edgerunner is a non-stop fast paced roller-coaster of a life. David can't catch a break and he's a speeding train heading somewhere, and as the audience, we're hurled into it right alongside him: no break for us either.
The problem isn’t just the fast pacing because a lot of shows have fast pacing, the problem is that most of the first two episodes are examples of fast pacing that was done badly for the most part. Those episodes do look go through.
I feel like I can honestly recommend people skipping the first two episodes and they still can fully enjoy the show and that a sign of bad writing, the overall story is still really amazing but that doesn’t change the problems with how the beginning was setup and some of the core details that could have been added.
At the start of the show: "It's nice, I'm a bit invested in the story/character, it's ok, I like it"
Episode 8: GODDAMMMMIT KIWIIIIIII ! NO !
I like how everyone is so invested after ep 2-3. What a great show !
My request for you guy
Please do 9 - 10 at once
It is so good
I think if Lucy were to explain, David would fall straight into the hands of Arasaka trying to stop them.
"Hey david arasaka has the most powerful cybernetic ever made and they want you to use it, but don't!"
That moment you realize there are no happy endings in Cyberpunk hits like sledgehammer.
Unfortunately, I feel like Studio Trigger (the animation studio) doesn't really do "season 2's" for any of their shows and whatnot.
and CDPR wanted to make the story complete in one go... (after all, story was written by same people who written story for CP2077) for season 2, there will be different story...
Boy do I got some news for you
I think the show is expertly using all of it's time well.
I understand the feeling though, during episode 1 and 2 you wouldn't care if there was a second season, but you get so unexpectedly attatched to these characters who you've barely seen and start wanting soo much more of them to the point that you make excuses to explain why more of them would be better. I never felt the show was rushed, but I DID feel as if I wanted more family moments and fun times between the characters I like so I made the excuse that "This feels rushed" when I just wanted more and everything being shown was fine.
I even had the same feeling with Naruto, a decently long shonen anime, I felt like I would've enjoyed more time before Shippuden, just seeing all the characters get more and more fleshed out. But in the end it's only a need for more screen time with certain characters, it doesn't make the story worse but it would improve my personal experience with the characters I love.
Trigger has a little bit of a history of making quick paced short 10 episodes series for Netflix.
Sometimes it works (Little Witch Academia), sometimes not so much (BNA).
After their experience on BNA, where the first half is fantastic worldbuilding, then the second half is "quick quick quick, we have to do this, say this expose that, and finish this !", I'd say Edgerunners hits the sweet spot. It's consistently fast paced, all the while still sprinkling some teamwork and worldbuilding. The proof is that you actually love that team and all its members.
Sure, it could use for some more filler episodes, and be more normally paced if it was a normal season of 26 episodes, but I got the feeling lot of the issues you mentioned also had to do with budgeting. You've seen that some episodes have some insane animations sequences... stuck inbetween some loooong ass static shots with just the background and no animation when people are talking for 2 straight minutes. We've seen this already in some of their previous works (most famously Kill La Kill) and as a professional in the animation industry myself, while I have no insider infos on their budget for the show, I can already tell you that's a VERY clear sign that the show didn't have a massive budget to begin with, and that they had to spend it sparingly (and no, it's not because it's in partnership with Netflix that they've got a massive budget. If anything, Netflix is sadly pretty infamous for slapping Japanese studios with very meager budget compared to American animation shows, even if it's one of Japan's best, Trigger. I mean, heck, for some projects like Little Witch Academia, Trigger even had to beg on crowdfunding to complete their budget !).
So if it's already like that for a short 10 episodes show, imagine if it was dragged in 26 ? You'd have entire episodes of talking backgrounds, and that would have been dragging the pace of the entire show. Constraint is the mother of creativity, and so I guess their artistic decisions made perfect sense under these harsh conditions.
If you want to see the perfect Trigger show, you've got to watch Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, back in the days that team was still working at Gainax and haven't created Trigger Studio yet.
It's a hilariously epic 26 episodes mecha series of cosmic proportions (and I chose my words carefully), and the pacing is also super fast, and cut right in the middle in 2 big arcs with a time jump in between. But the 26 episodes models does leave for more time to really attach yourself to the characters (some of them being some of the most badass in Anime history). Some fillers in there, but overall, the series is legendary, and a must watch if you want to know more about Hiroyuki Imaishi's gang (I kinda see him and his fellas Yoh Yoshinari and Sushio and co as Maine, David, and their crazy crewmates !)
Yes, i think that it's not really Trigger that decide the amount of episode, the length of their series depend on how much money they received
It just kind of feels like we are sprinting... Well the series is called Cyberpunk EdgeRUNNERS! XD
It's been really cool watching you guys go from being whelmed by the show at the start, to fully invested.
I feel like they could have expanded the first 6 episodes in to one 10 episode season ending with Mayne’s death and then made a second 8 episode season covering the second half of the series
Separating it would ruin it tho. 13 episode would have been better but splitting them is not good
No
I agree, they could've expanded a little more the relationships between characters, 2 seasons would be perfect since the story itself is short and put together
Thing is, they can make plenty of other stories surrounding other legends within the cyberpunk universe. They have a massive universe to take adapt
We want more Becca!
That was legit the most sincere "FUCK!" I have ever seen, and one of the most deserved also! Hahahahaha!
The thing with David shooting the assistant, is she was his mom. She was working hard so her son could get a good education. She was doing exactly what David’s mom was trying to do for him, and just like his mom she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then David killed the one he loved, just like Main did. It’s such a good call back and shows how close to losing it David is.
Based on 10:25, I already feel bad for Nerdy. The ending of The Edgerunners is just not for him.
It's not a diss or anything, but I love that you were not feeling the show in the first episode to now :"NO KIWI NO! FUCK!". I'm so glad you both continued the series.
4:52
I think the stuttering is because the calls are from people thinking at each other. It’s a stream of consciousness.
Since it's confirmed the episode titles are based on song titles I think this one is Rihanna/Mikki Ekko's Stay. The lyrics fits too.
Also Rebecca best girl!
To answer the question about the stutter phone calls, my take is that their reply stutters for the same reason we use "um" or "like" in conversation, to force the brain to slow down and try to form a concise reply. If you notice in the show, any time they physically speak a reply, their is no stutter. I thought it was a cool little detail to show off.
This episode absolutely breaks my heart. The conversation between David and Lucy after leaving the Ripperdoc is especially poignant. You can tell that, if Lucy had just said "That's it, let's walk away." David would have done it in a heartbeat, and they would have gotten an actual happily ever after...or as close as you can get to one in Cyberpunk.
But Lucy wouldn't stop tilting at her windmill, and David was only moving forward because he loves her so much.
This show truly is a masterpiece.
Just a small trivia, CDPR initially wanted to remove Rebecca since, you know her design is not too Cyberpunk. However Trigger fought to keep her, and now she is a fan fave, even within CDPR.
How did this show not start out bleak? This setting is all about living as best you can under an oppressive system and screaming defiance all the way down.
You'd think Gloria's death due to insufficient health insurance and the washing machine of all things being a subscription model would set the tone.
15-20 episodes would have been better for all the reasons cited. But 10 works well enough. “Legend” is also supposed to be kinda ironic. Like Lucy said; You don’t make a name for yourself by how you live, but by how you die. Even then the “legends” of Night City are just dead mercs that got a drink named for them at Afterlife. Its an empty, wasteful thing to chase and yet its also the only worthwhile aspiration these people trapped in this system can see as even a possibility for them. The meaningless futility of it is kind of the point.
David is a train, running and running and the show makes us run with him, so I feel the frenetic pace fits. You don't become a Legend by how you live.
Ripper doc truly take care about David. That is why David keep visited Doc's shop by regular even after he lived in penthouse with Lucy.
About de-chroming u mentioned at 6:30, its not neccesarly about putting your original hands back on, but more along the lines of putting on cybernetics that put less stress on your body, so less arms with guns in them and more just like a regular cybernetic arm someone would use if they lost their original arm in an accident, more medical grade and not military grade stuff
Yeah, if we go by the TTRPG mechanics, medical grade cyberware doesnt cause any hits on your humanity, as while they are cyberware, they function identically to the parts they replace.
I think we all agree about they could have make this at least 16 or 18 episodes. But I think they didn’t think this show was going to have so much success. I think it was a budget theme. Also I remember that CD had differences with Trigger, they didn’t want Rebecca in the show cause they were afraid of how young she looks and in the end she’s probably the best character in the show.
Strong agree that it's missing character beats. There's no clarification of the characters until their demise. We had too many episodes without Becca, but she worked out because of her interaction with David.
Falco shows up twice before being fully interactive with David in episode 7. He had two other appearances before then. Episode 4 should really have been split into two episodes, rather than condensing the entire characteristics of each of the Crew members into a single montage.
I feel like Kiwi didn't know it was Lucy. She just got hired to help take care of a problem and, oops! Turned out that problem was Lucy. Maybe if Lucy hadn't kept what she was doing a secret the story would have ended differently.
Rebecca is great though. Wish we could have had more of her.
I like the compactness of the story. Every moment is a moment. Nothing unnecessary.
In fairness to Kiwi, I don't think she knew Arasaka's ghost-runner was Lucy until they actually caught her.
she knew tho
@@n0madd no she didn't. She accepted a job from Faraday to help catch a ghost runner for arasaka. Faraday knew kiwi was a skilled runner. Even after she found out it was Lucy it's not like she can back out Faraday wouldn't hesitate to blame the failure on kiwi and if she killed him arasaka would know. She would make her an arasaka target either way. As soon as she accepted that job her fate was sealed, she was doomed to betray her crew because she didn't have a choice.
I would really like a Season 2 to be Jackie's backstory and how he got in and later left the Valentinos.
I think pace and how short it is works to its benefit. It heightens some of the emotional aspects because it moves fast. Your'e given a taste of things before its gone, and that makes you want more.
You honestly hit the nail on the head with the Game of Thrones comparison. The story beats make sense but they’re coming at you before being really built up.
The showrunners were "sprinting" because Netflix likely only gave them one season. Season 2 was probably not on the table... yet.
The level of betrayal! And David.... Honestly his ripper doc made him suffer but that hits hard... When he strangled him a little bit
"David hasn't done anything yet"...buckle up kids.
10:02 that reaction was gold lol haha Subscribed!
I agree a few more episdes to show the crew and flesh things out better would of been great. There is a big time jump between episodes 6 and 7, a good example of that is where David is living. He went from broke and breaking into his evicted apartment to living it high. At least one more episode showing the rise and him becoming famous would of been nice
10:05 you know you want to say it… there it is 10:24
Bruh I get off work and yall got the whole season uploaded. Mad blessings.
6:50 i think they just look bigger because the artists are intending for it to look like they're floating in the water.
"You can't dechrome can you?" No you can't but you can get less taxing chrome. A normal synthetic hand is much less taxing than gorilla hands. A synthetic spine takes a lot less out of you than a sandevistan.
Show couldnt be longer... this is CDPR+Trigger coop.. its whole point is to promote Cyberpunk 2077.. it would not work as well with Main losing it being the season 1 finale.. it has to be the way it is... btw If you play the game, go to Afterlife and ask for a (named) drink..
Rebecca is best girl, indeed
The "phone call" speech is stuttered because it's in their heads, telepathic communication.
Who is the voice actor for the man in the car at 3:26? He is on the tip of my tongue, but I can't place it or find them. I'm thinking Bryce who also plays Eren in AOT, but I am not sure.
The funny thing is the timeskip goes through a few months ahead because the story starts in 2076 so just JUST before game starts
OMFG !!! “Yoo David” I was thinking the same thing hahaha omg
If your biggest problem with the show is that you want more of it then you know it's good. Also the game made this point clear; you aren't remembered as a legend for how you live, only by how you die.
These next two reactions are going to be... Fun 😈
9:22 this line made me kind of hate David. For a guy whose whole motivation was pulling his own weight to make the people in his life satisfied with theirs, he is really damn naive as to what really made Lucy happy.
Check the official music video for cyberpunk edgerunners "Let you down". It tells a story from before the events of the anime, with a new character - Sacha. It's only 3-4 minutes, but so good
You have many, many bosses now my dude 😅☠️
Hahahah this is actuallly the truest comment
I think it seems more disjointed because you’re watching one episode a day which I get and look forward to your reactions for the last two episodes. When I watched it, it was over two days and the pacing, while fast, worked for me because it added to the tension and stress of the crew and David himself. It’s kind of like Uncut Gems where the pacing is intentional in order to add to the level of anxiety Adam Sandler’s character is feeling right up until the end where you’re practically begging for it to let up just like the character himself. It also kind of add gravity to the idea that Night City is a character in and of itself. There’s no slowing down. Life hits you fast and hard and how you make your mark is up to you.
That all being said I agree that I loved the show and characters so much that I wanted to see more of them. But I think it’s a testament to the story that I could grow so attached to these characters in such a short time.
From Thailand, My soul gonna broke in this episode.
That’s the life of an edge runner. Fun and fast.
There was an interview of the producer of the show that is part of CDPR that they showed the script to studio trigger and Trigger told CDPR and the producer that this will not work the show is made for a movie or a live action not for anime. Both studio went back and forth but most edit was done by trigger that is maybe one the reason for me not short but very dense.
It reminded me of HBO Rome, a story that has a great story, execution, and a decent ending but would have been greater if it was not cut down every shortly.
What I’m thinking is if they decide to continue this anime I think every season is going to be different stories with different characters within the same universe.
Nice Beanie 😁👍
I think this show delivers the same feeling that the game has. When you are engaged with the story is really good, but you want to see and do more with the characters and the city, but the next thing already happen and that's not more to enjoy.
I know that a lot of people have issues about the pacing, but I can also understand why they did it. As the creator of the show you don’t know whether or not it’s going to get a second season. so it’s probably better to tell the entire story even though it might be a bit rushed, rather than telling an incomplete story and hoping it might get a second season.
Its Pure Comic Book On The Screen, Old school meets 2022 Tech.
They actually talking bout making a season 2 with different characters 💯💯
Yes, the anime is a tad fast. But, I can understand, costs to animate and its a new anime IP so it is not known how it will or would land with the audience. Its popularity may well lead to more seasons.
Agree. It's a shame this wasn't a typical anime with 24 episodes. That's a sign of a great show...you always want more. Watching David watch David next episode should be interesting 😅
Thanks for the reaction
Top 5 anime betrayals.
It depends with the de-chroming in the Tabletop version you can store your biological limbs/organs and keepdem in cryo for as long as you pay the fee for later reattaching but you can also just use normal prostetics that work just like normal bodyparts, no humanity loss with those and then no cyberpsychosis
I also want a season 2 of Rebecca
Can someone PLEASE grab this and edit in the "We be right back" screen.
I agree with all your points. The biggest criticism is that the series is too short with so much going on. The story could be told in just 1 season, but then it should've been a 24 episode season instead of 10 lol
That's the problem with anime... A lot of animes are insanely good, but they have very tight budget with no certainty that a season 2 will ever be a thing. So do you take the risk of only telling half of your story knowing that you could maybe never tell it in full.. or do your sprint through it? Only a small of anime have the chance to be popular enough to have a second season...
And this anime studio is known to only do single season anime... all their anime are insanely good. But they all are a wild ride that goes too quick. The anime studio is called "TRIGGER", that's why most people will say that you got "TRIGGERED". It's what they do, they'll make you wish it was 3 seasons.
Oh boy, I'm waiting for ep. 10 like hell
I don’t know how you guys can wait till the next day to watch the next episode. It’s there and I’ll need to watch it immediately
Edgerunners life fast and die with a bang. I think the speed of the show emulates that.
Rebecca is absolutely the best character
There did seem to be a fairly low level of betrayal within the group, at least in comparison to most of my time spent running and playing the CP2020 version of the game some thirty years ago now. Night City eats up and spits out everyone, from the lowliest to the highest. Also, given how much animation costs these days I dare suspect they’re trying to knock it out of the park in one season, believing there will not be a second. I’m here for faster paced storytelling in general as a viewer or reader.
Yes you can swap arms to other tech but not flesh
YES! Total investment. Love it. The life of a runner is fast and uh er ... furious.
They need a second season or a remake with more episodes.
Second season wit new crew
That's not what it NEEDS, it's just what everyone WANTS
yup. There's more to come...
I slept woke up at 12 got mad cause I thought it was already gonna be the next day but nope so anyways spend my whole night watching cyberpunk edgerunner since I wanted to get into anime again so I did and now it's 9:17 and I just finished it
I don't wanna spoil it so I won't talk about how I felt
Kiwi is my favorite character, I had the same reaction, lol
i feel they rushed through it to build the world around every one and doing justice to the MC and others , im guessing next season if there is one it will be more story focus sense any one who watched this is familiar with the world.
Ay. Bryce Papenbrook. Nice
The show definitrly could've benefitted a whole lot more if it was longer! However I don't think it being so short was intentional, maybe they had budget constraints or something else?
This show needed at least 1 more episode, imo.
Oh believe me he's gonna become a legend. Just watch!
i don’t mind the condensed story, it leaves a lot to your imagination