Excellent thorough, clear and concise discussion on ethnicity and race in Mexico. Aside from you, I would say that the best explanations I have heard in You Tube on Mexican history and its relation to Peninsular Spain when Mexico was a part of the Spanish Empire is from Professor Eric Cárdenas of the channel, 'Mexico Antes de México.'
Brilliant. Please do a video on the mining and how it factors in to the culture. I come from a long line of Mining families from Jalisco all the way to New Mexico. Thank you.
I’ve been recently reading a lot about the history of Mexico during the colonial period to understand what was going on since no one really talks about this period. They always and only talk about the rise for independence and what happened after. This makes so much sense in summary to some of what I’ve been reading.Thanks!
Look at the periodo colonialista, history is a process, after 300 years without realizing it, the place defines where one is from, the distance from Spain influenced as well, all of this led many people to thrive, subsist, suffer in the land- the criollos as well as all 'mexican ' society became Mexico without them actually knowing it. We often forget this. It wasn't until the 1910 revolution where mexicanismo came into being. We are producsts of La Patria, our native land. I live in Spain now, I see many similarities but my home is Mexico, it took a lot of generations for it to mold my raices. It's like the Mexican saying, "El que no ama a su patria no ama a su madre." And even though I like spain I see it as the Dad who went to get some cigarrettes and said he's be back. hahahaha
I mostly agree with your comment. I see Spain more like a grandfather and Mexico like a grandmother. I am of legitimate birth (no single mothers in my lineage), was raised by a Mexican Hispanic father, and descend from a Spanish man who settled in Michoacán. I have his last name, share his religion, and speak his language, as do all of my forefathers tracing back to him. My grandfather was even born on land that our family had owned since we first arrived from Spain in the 1600s. This is why it's important for men to recognize and raise their children. Otherwise, your children will turn into confused kids who hate their forefathers and heritage. I'm fortunate enough to know exactly where I come from. I'm also proud of my Purepecha heritage, but ultimately I'm a mixed *Hispanic man, not a Purepecha grandmother.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Africns also have Eropean names. They Eropean too! Heck, Erope is originally a Phoenician word. Eropeans now Phoenician! “Share his religion.” Christianity is not from Erope. It’s from the Middle East. European alphabets derive from Latin alphabet and that alphabet derives from Phoenician/Egyptian alphabet. I guess Eropeans now are even more Middle Estern/North African!
Fact: Morelos and Hidalgo, supported financially the Spaniards against the French in Spain. Historians claim the animosity in the Independence was against the French, not the Spaniards and two different ways of understanding the way out to French domination. This is avery educational material 🙏🏻
*Using Mxican resources to financiallly support others,typical. Mxico is still financially supporting Criollo whom disportionately control majority of the resources.
@@Egr-et6ar at the time there were no "others" México as country did not exist yet. They were all Catholics and loyal to the King; There is no longer Kings in México unless you are referring to the drung lords
@@AmigosAltamira Mexico is a Nahuatl word. Tenochtitlan, also known as Mexico-Tenochtitlan. Loyal? Mxico is not a monarchy like Spain. Be loyal so the queen can buy a new burgundy bag. Olé Drung lords like the ones in Erope, where they really predate the ones in Mxico? Italian mob existed since the 1500s-1800s. Uk was the first Narco state since the 19th century.
@Egr-et6ar I don't mean to argue. History is what it is. I recommend you to watch all videos of this channels. History of Mexico is not what we have been told.
It’s really sad because the sacred languages have gone to a certain extent except in religions. Latin was the language originally in Spain, Italy and France. My point is it never lost the vernacular it always meant what it said and said what it meant. But today’s languages lose their meaning over periods of time and that’s what causes this mass confusion sometimes.
I always wondered why if you are native to this continent you should be a Native American whether if you were born in Mexico or Guatemala,Not indigenous rights?
My family is from Michoacan too. They are of Basque, Italian and Asturian background. We come from the north of Michoacán and the Italian part is from the Veneto region. Michoacán is very diverse. I’ve met people of German, Lebanese and Irish background there too besides Spanish, purépecha, Italian and French backgrounds which are the main backgrounds of the state! Agustín de Iturbide was from Michoacán of aristocratic Basque background and he not only became the liberator of Mexico but also the first Emperor of Mexico.
@@Egr-et6ar that’s one of the most ignorant comments I’ve read…ever. As the purépecha existed before the creation of Mexico. Mexico didn’t exist before 1821 and it started to take form when Cortes and his army formed an alliance with many native nations to take down the disgusting Mexicas. This is how Mexico started, not before and people from all over the world populated these lands to become Mexicans. Así que antes de decir mamada y media, aprende algo de historia.
@@tonyminutti5277 Mexico is a Nahuatl word. Tenochtitlan, also known as Mexico-Tenochtitlan. The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
@@Egr-et6ar los tlaxcaltecas siempre vieron como mayor amenaza a los Mexicas. La alianza se hizo con los soldados de Cortés (no eran españoles, España no existía todavía, eran castellanos si acaso). Al igual que otras naciones indígenas, que al principio lucharon contra Cortés, se decidieron aliar contra los sanguinarios Mexicas. Y fueron los Tlaxcaltecas y misioneros religiosos los que expandieron el virreinato de Nueva España, y hasta lucharon en el Pacifico y Océano Índico. Vas hoy a Tlaxcala y no viven con esos complejos que la mayoría del centro y sur de México vive. Están orgullosos de su historia, ya que ayudaron a forjar lo que hoy llamamos México. Y deberían de estar orgullosos. Gran pueblo de Tlaxcala!
That's not how that worked. Sounds like you just made up your own rules about stuff. In Catholicism, you can get married to whoever you want as long as your spouse is Catholic. Also, you could only get married once back then. So if your spouse was Native, and your kids were mixed, that wouldn't matter. Your kids and wife would inherit your properties regardless of their race after you died. Back then, the most important thing was that you were of legitimate birth (you had married parents) for inheritance, not race. There were no racial laws prohibiting non-Spanish children from inheriting property.
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False. Most people in Mexico are mixed. Are you implying that Mexicans look like uncontacted Indians from the Amazon? Seriously, are you trying to say that the majority of Mexicans aren't racially mixed or come from a mixed culture? Why do liberals like you hate mixed people?
@@TheTokyoDrifter Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Are you saying that all ntive tribes looked the same? Probably the most famous quote about the Cloud People comes from the Spnish Pedro Cieza de Leon, he wrote that the Chachapoya were ““the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” Orellana, another Spnish wrote a similar description, and also stated that the Cloud People were much taller than the Spniards, and had extremely light skin and blonde hair, pointing to the fact that they were of European ancestry not Mediterranean. These facts continue to puzzle modern day scientists, as there is no evidence of previous Eropean genes being present in this area of the world before the Cloud People.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Now to answer your last question….. The works of philologist Francisco Pimentel and demographer Antonio García Cubas lent support to this view: He called the locals an “enemy” of the other inhabitants of Mexico (Eürös) and suggested European immigration and racial mixing as an answer to the problem of the indigenous peoples. The Indians must “forget their customs and even their language, if that were possible,” so that Mexico would no longer be burdened by two diverse races. Diversity for Mxico and not for Erope. Olé
@@Egr-et6ar It doesn't matter what that author has to say. You're implying that most Mexicans aren't mixed people. You are a liar. And if that author makes the same claims, then he is also a liar.
Oh yes facts from a professor doesnt matter or the facts from Anthropologists and Historians that go over this, like Federico Navarrete. Are you in a alternative universe? Supposedly neither does bunch of the references “matter.” Bonfil Batalla, Guillermo. 1996. Mexico Profundo: Reclaiming a Civilization. Austin: University of Texas Press. Boone, Elizabeth Hill. 1994. The Aztec World. Montreal: St. Remy Press. Camarillo, Albert. 1984. Chicanos In California: A History of Mexican Americans in California. San Francisco: Boyd &Fraser Publishing Company. Coe, Michael D. 1994. Mexico: From the Olmecs to the Aztecs. New York: Thames and Hudson. Cremo, Michael A., Richard L. Thompson. 1996. Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race. Los Angeles: Bhaktivedanta Book Publishing, Inc. Deloria Jr., Vine. 1997. Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact. Golden: Fulcrum Publishing. Lafaye, Jacques. 1974. Quetzalcoatl and Guadalupe: The Formation of Mexican National Consciousness 1531 - 1819. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press. Meyer, C. Michael, William L. Sherman. 1987. The Course of Mexican History. 3rd. ed. New York: Oxford University Press. Paz, Octavio. 1985. The Labyrinth of Solitude: And Other Writings. New York: Grove Weidenfeld. Thomas, Hugh. 1993. Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico. New York: Simon & Schuster. Vasconcelos, Jose. 1997. La Raza Cosmica. Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins University Press
Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
But the majority of Mexicans are racially mixed now. That is a fact. Liberals like you just hate mixed people. You want us to claim to be Aztec or African. The fact that most Mexicans are mixed with European ancestry makes you angry.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Spnish are only 100k or so of the population today and Afrcans/Asians are only 1% of the population today. Now tell me how it is logically possible for a small group of people to míx up the majority?
Spain is, clearly, far more of a mestizo nation (if that term is ever properly to be used) than is Mexico. (1) The Spanish people speak a totally borrowed language, a dialect or branch of Italo-Latin mixed with many thousands of Arabic words. Very few words of the indigenous Hispano-Iberic language remain in use. (2) The culture of Spain is a complex mixture of Latin-Italic, North African, Middle Eastern, Greek, Gitano (Gypsy), and other characteristics, with very few indigenous (pre-Roman) traits remaining, except among the Basques and Gallegos. (3) Racially, the modern Spaniard probably carries relatively few indigenous genes, the latter having been greatly overwhelmed by Carthaginian, Celtic, Latin-Roman, Germanic, Arab, Moorish, Berber, Jewish, black African, and Gitano intermixture. The same kind of analysis can be made about England, Scotland, Russia, and a number of other nations. The English are clearly mestizos- a mixture of Celtic (and pre-Celtic), Angle, Saxon, Danish, Norman-French, Flemish, and other descent. Likewise, English cultures highly mixed (for example, half of the words in these-called English language are of Latin origin, the English practice a “foreign” religion- Christianity-and the great bulk of contemporary English characteristics are of foreign origin- including even tea drinking!) It is safe to say that the modern Englishman has very little in common with the Britons and pre-Roman times or even with the Anglo-Saxons before Christianity.
The Scots are, of course, a mixture of Pictish, Gaelic (Scottish), Norse, Norman-French, Flemish, English (Anglic), Saxon, and other stocks. Culturally, little remains (except for a few place names) from the indigenous Picts. Even the culture of the invading Scots (coming from Ireland) had been eroded to such an extent that the Scottish language is spoken only in a few remote regions and is officially ignored by the government. Except for some “colorful” Highland characteristics here is little left of purely Celtic origin, although many Celtic, Germanic, and Latin traits have mixed together to produce modern Scottish culture. The Russians continue to speak their native Slavic language, but their culture is extremely mixed (showing Greek, Turkish, Mongol, and German influences). Racially the Russians have absorbed large quantities of Finish, Kahzar, Turkic, Mongol, Greek and other alien ancestry. Interestingly, the English, Scots, and Russians (like the Spanish) are never categorized as mestizos. Seldom does one ever ask a Scotsman if he is part Norman-French, nor indeed, does anyone ever ask a Scotsman if he has even a drop of Celtic (Pictish-Scottish) blood. Such questions are seemingly only asked of knocked-down, colonized, and powerless peoples. The same kind of analysis can be made of almost all major ethnic groups- Chinese, Japanese, East Indians, Arabs, Turks, and so on. Almost all such peoples possess a mixed racial heritage and a mixed culture. But they are not mestizos (even when their ancient “race” and culture have been almost totally erased or altered). Furthermore modern Mexican and Chicano people possess far greater connection with their ancient Mexican past than many European groups do with their respective past. For more info that further debunks Mėstizo myth, Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
Liberated Mxico? Not when you go full into the details…. Hidalgo's Grito did not condemn the notion of monarchy or criticize the current social order in detail, but his opposition to the events in Spain and the current viceregal government was clearly expressed in his reference to bad government. The Grito also emphasized loyalty to the Catholic religion, a sentiment with which both Creoles and Peninsulares could sympathize. Ignacio Allende, Hidalgo's main co-conspirator in Querétaro, remained more loyal to the Querétaro group's original, criollo centered objectives. Hidalgo marched across Mexico and gathered an army of nearly 90,000 poor farmers and Mexican civilians who attacked Spanish Peninsular and Criollo elites. The town's peninsular and criollo populations took refuge in the fortified Alhóndiga de Granaditas commanded by Juan Antonio de Riaño. The insurgents overwhelmed the defenses after two days and killed an estimated 400 - 600 people. Allende strongly protested these events and while Hidalgo agreed that they were heinous, he also stated that he understood the historical patterns that shaped such responses. The attacks prompted criollos and peninsulares to ally against the insurgents and caused Hidalgo to lose support from liberal criollos. So in other words, Criollos switched sides. The constitution was actually sought to create a new governing framework in the absence of the legitimate Spanish monarch. It tried to accommodate the aspirations of American-born Spaniards (criollos) for more local control and “equal” standing with Peninsular-born Spaniards, known locally as peninsulares. The crown had established a standing military in the late eighteenth century, granting non-Spaniards who served the fuero militar, the only special privileges for mixed-race men were eligible. Indians were excluded from the military. This political process had far-reaching impacts in New Spain during the independence war and beyond. Pre-existing cultural, religious, and racial divides in Mexico played a major role in not only the development of the independence movement but also the development of the conflict as it progressed.
Everyone on earth is mixed. But Spaniards collectively were distinct ethnic groups: Castilians, Basques, Galicians, and others. In Mexico, "Españoles" formed a distinct cultural community. To deny this is to deny reality. Ethnicity is real and it's what distinguishes you from others. If you don't understand ethnicity, I urge you to study some basic anthropology.
Very true frank. Beyond our imagination. The Moors ruled what is now Spain, we / I Mexicans are the end of the line next to pilipinos. Let’s not forget about the Persians and middle eastern bloodline. What no one can take away from us is the Native American blood.
@@MACQJRHellNO we ain’t Arab or Persian!! Yes the moors ruled but they got killed off at the end of the day!!! Spanish ppl are not Arab because they restored their blood lines but there’s 100 million of full blooded natives in Mexico and 67 tribes still exist
@@BigFists2024 That’s what they say but after the Arabs converted many of the Amazighs to Islm early in the 8th century, the Amazighs and Arabs joined to conquer 🇪🇸. There they intermarried with the Spnish. Their descendants came to be called Moors later on. The first were “expelled” from Spain between 1609 and 1614, although a certain number managed to evade expulsion or return to the Peninsula later on. But of course the con- verted, those who had identified with Christian Spain, could not be expelled on top of that. Most historical works about Muslims in Spain, therefore, concentrate on the Moriscos (more or less Christianized, more or less Islamized) from 1492 to 1614. And the enormous bibliography on slavery concentrates on slaves from sub- Saharan Africa in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, leaving Muslims on the margins. Moriscos and slaves, in short, have captured almost all the interest of historians even though, as we shall see, free Muslims were very numerous. Chapter 2 The Spain That Enslaves and Expels: Moriscos and Muslim Captives (1492 to 1767-1791). They also like to say that they “invaded,” but the traditional story is that in the year 711, an oppressed Christian chief, Julian, went to Musa ibn Nusair, the governor of North Africa, with a plea for help against the tyrannical Visigoth ruler of Spain, Roderick. Musa responded by sending the young general Tariq bin Ziyad with an army of 7000 troops.
I'm part native American of mesoamerican ancestry my dad was born in Chapala Jalisco Mexico my grandmother was indigenous to Chapala coca Nahuatl Chichimeca my DNA says I'm 64% native American and 28 euro white Spanish most Mexicans are mestizos but many are white looking Mexican in Mexico there's other euro and people from Italy, France, Russian, china, Korea, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, India , Americans melting pot
@@davidortega357 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
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Excellent thorough, clear and concise discussion on ethnicity and race in Mexico. Aside from you, I would say that the best explanations I have heard in You Tube on Mexican history and its relation to Peninsular Spain when Mexico was a part of the Spanish Empire is from Professor Eric Cárdenas of the channel, 'Mexico Antes de México.'
I love his channel. The Professor is great.
Brilliant. Please do a video on the mining and how it factors in to the culture. I come from a long line of Mining families from Jalisco all the way to New Mexico. Thank you.
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I’ve been recently reading a lot about the history of Mexico during the colonial period to understand what was going on since no one really talks about this period. They always and only talk about the rise for independence and what happened after. This makes so much sense in summary to some of what I’ve been reading.Thanks!
Look at the periodo colonialista, history is a process, after 300 years without realizing it, the place defines where one is from, the distance from Spain influenced as well, all of this led many people to thrive, subsist, suffer in the land- the criollos as well as all 'mexican ' society became Mexico without them actually knowing it. We often forget this. It wasn't until the 1910 revolution where mexicanismo came into being.
We are producsts of La Patria, our native land. I live in Spain now, I see many similarities but my home is Mexico, it took a lot of generations for it to mold my raices. It's like the Mexican saying, "El que no ama a su patria no ama a su madre." And even though I like spain I see it as the Dad who went to get some cigarrettes and said he's be back. hahahaha
I mostly agree with your comment. I see Spain more like a grandfather and Mexico like a grandmother. I am of legitimate birth (no single mothers in my lineage), was raised by a Mexican Hispanic father, and descend from a Spanish man who settled in Michoacán. I have his last name, share his religion, and speak his language, as do all of my forefathers tracing back to him. My grandfather was even born on land that our family had owned since we first arrived from Spain in the 1600s. This is why it's important for men to recognize and raise their children. Otherwise, your children will turn into confused kids who hate their forefathers and heritage. I'm fortunate enough to know exactly where I come from. I'm also proud of my Purepecha heritage, but ultimately I'm a mixed *Hispanic man, not a Purepecha grandmother.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Africns also have Eropean names. They Eropean too! Heck, Erope is originally a Phoenician word. Eropeans now Phoenician! “Share his religion.” Christianity is not from Erope. It’s from the Middle East. European alphabets derive from Latin alphabet and that alphabet derives from Phoenician/Egyptian alphabet. I guess Eropeans now are even more Middle Estern/North African!
Fact: Morelos and Hidalgo, supported financially the Spaniards against the French in Spain. Historians claim the animosity in the Independence was against the French, not the Spaniards and two different ways of understanding the way out to French domination.
This is avery educational material 🙏🏻
*Using Mxican resources to financiallly support others,typical. Mxico is still financially supporting Criollo whom disportionately control majority of the resources.
@@Egr-et6ar at the time there were no "others" México as country did not exist yet. They were all Catholics and loyal to the King; There is no longer Kings in México unless you are referring to the drung lords
@@AmigosAltamira Mexico is a Nahuatl word. Tenochtitlan, also known as Mexico-Tenochtitlan. Loyal? Mxico is not a monarchy like Spain. Be loyal so the queen can buy a new burgundy bag. Olé
Drung lords like the ones in Erope, where they really predate the ones in Mxico? Italian mob existed since the 1500s-1800s. Uk was the first Narco state since the 19th century.
@Egr-et6ar I don't mean to argue. History is what it is. I recommend you to watch all videos of this channels. History of Mexico is not what we have been told.
@@AmigosAltamira “History of Mexico is not what we have been told.” Agreed. The “victorious" often write the “history.”
It’s really sad because the sacred languages have gone to a certain extent except in religions. Latin was the language originally in Spain, Italy and France. My point is it never lost the vernacular it always meant what it said and said what it meant. But today’s languages lose their meaning over periods of time and that’s what causes this mass confusion sometimes.
Latin was not originally the language of the Celts.
I'm from Ciudad Juarez and I'm over 70 percent native mexican. Nochipa Mexicatl!!!
If you think your Mexica, then your probably not originally from Chihuahua. The Mexica never controlled Chihuahua.
@@TheTokyoDrifter I'm over 70 percent chichimeca. Nochipa Mexicatl!!!
I always wondered why if you are native to this continent you should be a Native American whether if you were born in Mexico or Guatemala,Not indigenous rights?
Where does the last name Leos come from?
Your dad
I don't see your email address or a website to request?
My family is from Michoacan too. They are of Basque, Italian and Asturian background. We come from the north of Michoacán and the Italian part is from the Veneto region. Michoacán is very diverse. I’ve met people of German, Lebanese and Irish background there too besides Spanish, purépecha, Italian and French backgrounds which are the main backgrounds of the state! Agustín de Iturbide was from Michoacán of aristocratic Basque background and he not only became the liberator of Mexico but also the first Emperor of Mexico.
Then not Mexican for all of nationalities mentioned, except Purépecha.
@@Egr-et6ar that’s one of the most ignorant comments I’ve read…ever. As the purépecha existed before the creation of Mexico. Mexico didn’t exist before 1821 and it started to take form when Cortes and his army formed an alliance with many native nations to take down the disgusting Mexicas. This is how Mexico started, not before and people from all over the world populated these lands to become Mexicans. Así que antes de decir mamada y media, aprende algo de historia.
Liberator of Mexico 🤣
@@tonyminutti5277 Mexico is a Nahuatl word. Tenochtitlan, also known as Mexico-Tenochtitlan.
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
@@Egr-et6ar los tlaxcaltecas siempre vieron como mayor amenaza a los Mexicas. La alianza se hizo con los soldados de Cortés (no eran españoles, España no existía todavía, eran castellanos si acaso). Al igual que otras naciones indígenas, que al principio lucharon contra Cortés, se decidieron aliar contra los sanguinarios Mexicas. Y fueron los Tlaxcaltecas y misioneros religiosos los que expandieron el virreinato de Nueva España, y hasta lucharon en el Pacifico y Océano Índico. Vas hoy a Tlaxcala y no viven con esos complejos que la mayoría del centro y sur de México vive. Están orgullosos de su historia, ya que ayudaron a forjar lo que hoy llamamos México. Y deberían de estar orgullosos. Gran pueblo de Tlaxcala!
In the us of a mexican is seen as an ethnic group
Spanish Crown had no choice but recognize so called subjects who only had 1 Spanish parent and no other heirs of full Hispanic blood.
That's not how that worked. Sounds like you just made up your own rules about stuff. In Catholicism, you can get married to whoever you want as long as your spouse is Catholic. Also, you could only get married once back then. So if your spouse was Native, and your kids were mixed, that wouldn't matter. Your kids and wife would inherit your properties regardless of their race after you died. Back then, the most important thing was that you were of legitimate birth (you had married parents) for inheritance, not race. There were no racial laws prohibiting non-Spanish children from inheriting property.
For more info that further debunks Mėstízo myth, Sėė 📚➡️
The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
By Victor Mejia
False. Most people in Mexico are mixed. Are you implying that Mexicans look like uncontacted Indians from the Amazon? Seriously, are you trying to say that the majority of Mexicans aren't racially mixed or come from a mixed culture? Why do liberals like you hate mixed people?
@@TheTokyoDrifter Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Are you saying that all ntive tribes looked the same?
Probably the most famous quote about the Cloud People comes from the Spnish Pedro Cieza de Leon, he wrote that the Chachapoya were ““the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” Orellana, another Spnish wrote a similar description, and also stated that the Cloud People were much taller than the Spniards, and had extremely light skin and blonde hair, pointing to the fact that they were of European ancestry not Mediterranean. These facts continue to puzzle modern day scientists, as there is no evidence of previous Eropean genes being present in this area of the world before the Cloud People.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Now to answer your last question…..
The works of philologist Francisco Pimentel and demographer Antonio García Cubas lent support to this view: He called the locals an “enemy” of the other inhabitants of Mexico (Eürös) and suggested European immigration and racial mixing as an answer to the problem of the indigenous peoples. The Indians must “forget their customs and even their language, if that were possible,” so that Mexico would no longer be burdened by two diverse races.
Diversity for Mxico and not for Erope. Olé
@@Egr-et6ar It doesn't matter what that author has to say. You're implying that most Mexicans aren't mixed people. You are a liar. And if that author makes the same claims, then he is also a liar.
Oh yes facts from a professor doesnt matter or the facts from Anthropologists and Historians that go over this, like Federico Navarrete. Are you in a alternative universe?
Supposedly neither does bunch of the references “matter.”
Bonfil Batalla, Guillermo. 1996. Mexico Profundo: Reclaiming a Civilization. Austin: University of Texas Press.
Boone, Elizabeth Hill. 1994. The Aztec World. Montreal: St. Remy Press.
Camarillo, Albert. 1984. Chicanos In California: A History of Mexican Americans in California. San Francisco: Boyd &Fraser Publishing Company.
Coe, Michael D. 1994. Mexico: From the Olmecs to the Aztecs. New York: Thames and Hudson. Cremo, Michael A., Richard L. Thompson. 1996. Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race. Los Angeles: Bhaktivedanta Book Publishing, Inc.
Deloria Jr., Vine. 1997. Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact. Golden: Fulcrum Publishing.
Lafaye, Jacques. 1974. Quetzalcoatl and Guadalupe: The Formation of Mexican National Consciousness 1531 - 1819. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press.
Meyer, C. Michael, William L. Sherman. 1987. The Course of Mexican History. 3rd. ed. New York: Oxford University Press.
Paz, Octavio. 1985. The Labyrinth of Solitude: And Other Writings. New York: Grove Weidenfeld.
Thomas, Hugh. 1993. Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico. New York: Simon & Schuster.
Vasconcelos, Jose. 1997. La Raza Cosmica. Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins University Press
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Race and ethnicity are 2 completely different things
Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
But the majority of Mexicans are racially mixed now. That is a fact. Liberals like you just hate mixed people. You want us to claim to be Aztec or African. The fact that most Mexicans are mixed with European ancestry makes you angry.
@@TheTokyoDrifter Spnish are only 100k or so of the population today and Afrcans/Asians are only 1% of the population today. Now tell me how it is logically possible for a small group of people to míx up the majority?
Spain is, clearly, far more of a mestizo nation (if that term is ever properly to be used) than is Mexico.
(1) The Spanish people speak a totally borrowed language, a dialect or branch of Italo-Latin mixed with many thousands of Arabic words. Very few words of the indigenous Hispano-Iberic language remain in use.
(2) The culture of Spain is a complex mixture of Latin-Italic, North African, Middle Eastern, Greek, Gitano (Gypsy), and other characteristics, with very few indigenous (pre-Roman) traits remaining, except among the Basques and Gallegos.
(3) Racially, the modern Spaniard probably carries relatively few indigenous genes, the latter having been greatly overwhelmed by Carthaginian, Celtic, Latin-Roman, Germanic, Arab, Moorish, Berber, Jewish, black African, and Gitano intermixture. The same kind of analysis can be made about England, Scotland, Russia, and a number of other nations. The English are clearly mestizos- a mixture of Celtic (and pre-Celtic), Angle, Saxon, Danish, Norman-French, Flemish, and other descent. Likewise, English cultures highly mixed (for example, half of the words in these-called English language are of Latin origin, the English practice a “foreign” religion- Christianity-and the great bulk of contemporary English characteristics are of foreign origin- including even tea drinking!) It is safe to say that the modern Englishman has very little in common with the Britons and pre-Roman times or even with the Anglo-Saxons before Christianity.
The Scots are, of course, a mixture of Pictish, Gaelic (Scottish), Norse, Norman-French, Flemish, English (Anglic), Saxon, and other stocks. Culturally, little remains (except for a few place names) from the indigenous Picts. Even the culture of the invading Scots (coming from Ireland) had been eroded to such an extent that the Scottish language is spoken only in a few remote regions and is officially ignored by the government. Except for some “colorful” Highland characteristics here is little left of purely Celtic origin, although many Celtic, Germanic, and Latin traits have mixed together to produce modern Scottish culture.
The Russians continue to speak their native Slavic language, but their culture is extremely mixed (showing Greek, Turkish, Mongol, and German influences). Racially the Russians have absorbed large quantities of Finish, Kahzar, Turkic, Mongol, Greek and other alien ancestry.
Interestingly, the English, Scots, and Russians (like the Spanish) are never categorized as mestizos. Seldom does one ever ask a Scotsman if he is part Norman-French, nor indeed, does anyone ever ask a Scotsman if he has even a drop of Celtic (Pictish-Scottish) blood. Such questions are seemingly only asked of knocked-down, colonized, and powerless peoples.
The same kind of analysis can be made of almost all major ethnic groups- Chinese, Japanese, East Indians, Arabs, Turks, and so on. Almost all such peoples possess a mixed racial heritage and a mixed culture. But they are not mestizos (even when their ancient “race” and culture have been almost totally erased or altered). Furthermore modern Mexican and Chicano people possess far greater connection with their ancient Mexican past than many European groups do with their respective past.
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The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
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MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
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My mom is from Jalisco my dad is from Michoacán I was born in Chicago. What information would you have regarding my background?
Michoacan is very mestizo and Jalisco is mainly castizo
@@LatAm13Castizo & mestizo are two entirely different racial category terms!
@@geoboy700 I never said it wasn’t. I just pointed out the difference between Michoacán and Jalisco.
@ right well, from both family ties, they are from Michoacán & Zacatecas nearby Jalisco. I’m trying to find out where my ethnic roots back to.
This reminds me of the saying, "It took the indigenous to conquer 'Mexico', and then Mexico was liberated by the Spanish (Criollos)."
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
Liberated Mxico? Not when you go full into the details…. Hidalgo's Grito did not condemn the notion of monarchy or criticize the current social order in detail, but his opposition to the events in Spain and the current viceregal government was clearly expressed in his reference to bad government. The Grito also emphasized loyalty to the Catholic religion, a sentiment with which both Creoles and Peninsulares could sympathize. Ignacio Allende, Hidalgo's main co-conspirator in Querétaro, remained more loyal to the Querétaro group's original, criollo centered objectives. Hidalgo marched across Mexico and gathered an army of nearly 90,000 poor farmers and Mexican civilians who attacked Spanish Peninsular and Criollo elites. The town's peninsular and criollo populations took refuge in the fortified Alhóndiga de Granaditas commanded by Juan Antonio de Riaño. The insurgents overwhelmed the defenses after two days and killed an estimated 400 - 600 people. Allende strongly protested these events and while Hidalgo agreed that they were heinous, he also stated that he understood the historical patterns that shaped such responses. The attacks prompted criollos and peninsulares to ally against the insurgents and caused Hidalgo to lose support from liberal criollos. So in other words, Criollos switched sides. The constitution was actually sought to create a new governing framework in the absence of the legitimate Spanish monarch. It tried to accommodate the aspirations of American-born Spaniards (criollos) for more local control and “equal” standing with Peninsular-born Spaniards, known locally as peninsulares. The crown had established a standing military in the late eighteenth century, granting non-Spaniards who served the fuero militar, the only special privileges for mixed-race men were eligible. Indians were excluded from the military. This political process had far-reaching impacts in New Spain during the independence war and beyond. Pre-existing cultural, religious, and racial divides in Mexico played a major role in not only the development of the independence movement but also the development of the conflict as it progressed.
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People from Spain 🇪🇸 were very mix😅 😮 they were a Nationality -not A Race😮
Everyone on earth is mixed. But Spaniards collectively were distinct ethnic groups: Castilians, Basques, Galicians, and others. In Mexico, "Españoles" formed a distinct cultural community. To deny this is to deny reality. Ethnicity is real and it's what distinguishes you from others. If you don't understand ethnicity, I urge you to study some basic anthropology.
Very true frank. Beyond our imagination. The Moors ruled what is now Spain, we / I Mexicans are the end of the line next to pilipinos. Let’s not forget about the Persians and middle eastern bloodline. What no one can take away from us is the Native American blood.
@@MACQJRHellNO we ain’t Arab or Persian!! Yes the moors ruled but they got killed off at the end of the day!!! Spanish ppl are not Arab because they restored their blood lines but there’s 100 million of full blooded natives in Mexico and 67 tribes still exist
@@TheTokyoDrifterno not every one is mixed there’s 8 billion ppl is everyone mixed with punjabes
@@BigFists2024 That’s what they say but after the Arabs converted many of the Amazighs to Islm early in the 8th century, the Amazighs and Arabs joined to conquer 🇪🇸. There they intermarried with the Spnish. Their descendants came to be called Moors later on.
The first were “expelled” from Spain between 1609 and 1614, although a certain number managed to evade expulsion or return to the Peninsula later on. But of course the con- verted, those who had identified with Christian Spain, could not be expelled on top of that. Most historical works about Muslims in Spain, therefore, concentrate on the Moriscos (more or less Christianized, more or less Islamized) from 1492 to 1614. And the enormous bibliography on slavery concentrates on slaves from sub- Saharan Africa in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, leaving Muslims on the margins. Moriscos and slaves, in short, have captured almost all the interest of historians even though, as we shall see, free Muslims were very numerous. Chapter 2 The Spain That Enslaves and Expels: Moriscos and Muslim Captives (1492 to 1767-1791).
They also like to say that they “invaded,” but the traditional story is that in the year 711, an oppressed Christian chief, Julian, went to Musa ibn Nusair, the governor of North Africa, with a plea for help against the tyrannical Visigoth ruler of Spain, Roderick. Musa responded by sending the young general Tariq bin Ziyad with an army of 7000 troops.
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How come when my Mexican friends take a 23 and me test, they are all .1% Chinese lol
I'm part native American of mesoamerican ancestry my dad was born in Chapala Jalisco Mexico my grandmother was indigenous to Chapala coca Nahuatl Chichimeca my DNA says I'm 64% native American and 28 euro white Spanish most Mexicans are mestizos but many are white looking Mexican in Mexico there's other euro and people from Italy, France, Russian, china, Korea, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, India , Americans melting pot
Ancestry tests are for entertainment purposes only as stated at the bottom.
@@davidortega357 Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
.1%?? It’s called static
Asian & Native American are the same thing
Don’t be ridiculous, not true
@@S.M.Mer0 deal with it
@@BalaCosmica No, I don’t deal with falsehoods
@@S.M.Mer0 23andme and neil degrasse tyson have confirmed it and have much more influence than you. deal with it..
@@BalaCosmica Degrasse Tyson 🤣🤣 that’s who you’re going with?? 😆 I’ve seen more than a few errors in his presentations, that’s hilarious
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you mean W