Shannon you should do a video comparing faceoff % in the juniors to the NHL, players like Bergeron, Crosby, Toews, O'Reilly, Giroux, Vermette, Kopitar, Datsyuk, Brind'Amour and Sakic. Seems like there’s a lot of talk about Bedard moving to the wings instead of playing center.
I think moving a young player to the wing, at least to start their NHL career, has more to do with the defensive end of things than faceoffs. A centre is responsible to be the forward who comes back on a play first. There are more responsibilities for a centre than just faceoffs. Depending on the player, it’s usually best to start them on the wing, let them get their feet wet and let them learn the 2 way game that is so important in modern hockey. Some players come in and have that end of things down already. Others take time. Everyone is different. Bedard might need a year on the wing. Maybe not.
Indeed. I'd argue for Fiala to be higher, but I understand that he's had his slight injury problems holding him back. Obviously, Arviddson would be much higher if he wasn't injured for ¼ of every season he plays.
Brayden Point was drafted by Tampa with Minnesota's 3rd round pick. To drop one spot, Minnesota received a 7th round pick in 2015. Tampa made out like bandits. Brayden Point was considered a late first round to mid second round prospect. Craig Button TSN had him at 17th overall. It was the Wild's folly.
@@josiahharrison9843 Sure, but Point was by far the best value on the board at that time, and the chances of that 7th rounder being worth anything was almost nil.
Let's be honest Shannon just chose Victor Olofsson for the Avs so that the announcers would be so confused with Victor Olofsson, Fredrik Olofsson and Oskar Olausson all on the same team. 🤣
To be honest I think I'd have Fialla at 4,5 or 6 guys a point-per-game player and really an absolute beast just needs to stop taking dumb penalties other than that I wouldn't mind seeing a best players drafted in the late rnds (5th, 6th and 7th) from the last 10 years or so be interesting to see THG's opinion on who were the best players taken really late
Yup. We screwed up big time in 2014. Probably would’ve won the cup in 2020 or 2021 if we drafted elite players in 2014. But hey, at least we hit in the later rounds.
@atlasshrugged6435 He's lucky for it, he was willing to trade all 7 picks that year to move from 4 up to 2 to get Ryan Murray. I think they dodged an even bigger bullet in the long run.
@@atlasshrugged6435 yeah but I can't predict he would be able to flip griffin Reinhart for what they eventually did. Snow also passed up Roman josi and Jake guentzel in RD 2
I love to think about putting together an all star team using only one draft class. When I get the time I'm going to execute this idea on my NHL videogame. 2014 team has excellent goaltending and a highscoring forwards with great help from the well capable defense.
You don't think there is any regret in Florida with drafting Ekblad? It's nothing against Ekblad, but I think Florida and also Buffalo passing on Draisaitl is a big dang-it for both of those franchises from today's point of view. And when you realize Buffalo also lost McDavid lottery... it's even worse than Ducks being second in Crosby and Bedard years.
That's some major bias right there. Ekblad has been a very solid first pairing dman in the league. Just gets over looked due to playing for the panthers.
@@JarradBruessel32I agree but at the same time you could use another 100 point forward. Ekblad is still not worth the first overall in my opinion. His injuries + his critical mistakes on the ice keep draging him down compared to other defensive peers.
Kempe's speed, size, shot, and his defensive capabilities are impressive. Plus, him playing with a chip on his shoulder, and naturally with grit, he somehow manages to stay healthy. I think these qualities make him slightly more complete than Fiala. No disrespect to Fiala though. His puck protection and retrieval in close proximity are not to be trifled with. Plus, his edges and footwork allows the elusive factor to slither between opponents with ease. Oh, and not to mention his hands. They may not be as quick as Kempe's, but they make up for that by being soft and silky. All these skills makes him an amazing playmaking threat. He's also a smaller guy. Standing at 5'10". Compared to Kempe's 6'3". It's really hard for me too say who should've been place higher, but I will say, Fiala is more well rounded.
Funny how that works. GM Rob Blake finds a way. Most good GM's have too. David Poille had quite the steal drafting Arviddson and Fiala in that draft too. Shame that he couldn't find a way to keep those players.
Minnesota gave away Alex Tuch, so Vegas would not take Matt Dumba in the expansion draft. Vegas selected Erik Haula. Vegas also selected Teemu Pulkkinen from Arizona - a player Arizona claimed off waivers from Minnesota near the end of the season. If the Wild had retained Pulkkinen, they likely could have offered him instead of Tuch to bypass Dumba. Vegas fleeced the Wild big time, while the Wild mismanaged their roster.
They couldn't retain pullkinen I don't think. They had to put him on waivers to make room for a guy returning from injury. Also Minnesota should have done the smart thing and let dumba go. He ended up being useless in the end. Never should have kept him.
@@JarradBruessel32 Pulkkinen was waived instead of any other player that could have been waived. It was a choice. I agree with Dumba, and I said so at the time. He was being paid too much for his poor defensive play, and this was a chance to move his contract. In any case, he sure wasn't worth two players on the roster. Would anyone take Dumba over Tuch today? Not a chance.
@@Spurgeon46 They selected that waiver wire player over any other player from Arizona. You assume there would have been an option to select Tuch instead, which there would not have been in that scenario.
@@Too-Odd Because Arizona had absolutely no one worthwhile to select. Minnesota has been screwed by both of their expansion drafts because they’ve had deeper rosters. We’re just lucky that they took Tuch instead of Kaprizov like they were offered.
As an Islanders fan, this draft hurts. A lot. It definitely set us back as a franchise. I think if we drafted better in 2014, having two successful first round picks, we’d have won at least 1 of the cups in 2020 or 2021.
And several other drafts the amount of talent snow left on the board is pretty staggering.. Kempe, josi, nylander,fiala a shyte ton of good/great players..
@nah6666 McCann has missed a lot of games in his career from injury too they've missed a similar amount of games in their career, but it could be why he's lower than he should be he's been over a point per game the last two seasons playing with Freddy Gaudreau as his center in Minnesota, and playing on the 3rd line half the season in LA which is crazy
@@holden9278 I respect THG's opinion, but I 100% would not trust McCann in Fiala's place in LA. Fiala drives play, and I believe McCann is largely supported by the terrifically well balanced Seattle squad he plays with.
@nah6666 Same here lists like these come down to personal preference a lot of the time especially with draft classes this deep where a bunch of players are really good , and I think Fiala is one of the best passers and play driving wingers in the league he creates a lot of space for his linemates, and makes almost everyone he plays with better
So you're saying the draft is, for the most part, a crap shoot. Future NHL All-stars by round selected in 2014: 1st round - 6 2nd round - 1 3rd round - 2 4th round - 1
Toews is awesome, much better than injury hurt Ekblad. Most underrated player on league. Also Montour last two seasons have been absolutely rocket, but that maybe isn't enough to put him over some other players.
I remember that year in my keeper pool I had traded for the 2nd overall pick (was drafting last) and hoped to win the lottery but lost and went 3rd overall. 2 seasons later I knew that in fact I won it 😂
I think he made a fair point. Shesterkin had an off year after a monster season. Although, that off year was still quite good and was even better when playoffs rolled around and he was the best player for the Rangers hands down. Sorokin has been more consistent in his entire career and has arguably had a tougher job due to the offense his team fails to provide. I personally would also take Sorokin on my team going into thos season, precisely because he's always been consistent.
You asked Oiler fans how they feel about Point. Drai is my favourite player by far. I wouldn’t take anyone over him. Skilled, tough, shit disturber, pissy and he’s got the strongest backhand sauce at the BBQ.
Definitely happy with Ehlers instead of Vrana who could create breakaways with his speed but never scored them. At least in his final couple of seasons. Whilst the teade hasn't really worked out I'm not sure we're missing anything not having Vrana
Never realized how stacked this draft was, especially with guys like Dal Colle, Virtanen, Fleury, Ritchie, Perlini, Honka, etc. who were all taken early and never lived up to their draft position.
I think Shesterkin should be above Sarokin. The Islanders are a more defensive team and make the goalie's job easier. Shesterkin's super season was legendary. I'd put him a 2 or 3. Draisaitl #1 for sure.
Remember when the leafs had McCann and they didn't protect him in the expansion draft so they could keep justin holl and kerfoot lol so glad Dubas is gone.
Nah no way as a Caps fan would I want Eihlers over Taves, Taves would be fantastic for Carlson the way Kempney was durring the cup run for a longer period of time, and that could have honestly won the caps another cup.
Both this and your previous video comparing number 2 draft picks from 2006-2021 makes me think that doing video about the best steals over a given period of time would be interesting.
Previously when you have done re-drafts you also had what # the player was originally drafted in ... I found that to be useful/ interesting information and hope you do that again in future re-drafts
Im an Avs fan so I'm biased, but Toews outside that top 10 is criminal to me. Even Chelios mentioned him as one of the best and most underated Dmen on the league.
25:27 Ironically Marcus Pettersson has been mentioned as a player the Sharks are targeting in the Karlsson trade, though allegedly Pittsburgh doesn't want to give him up.
I'm just laughing at the fact the 3 out of the Top 4 are playing for Florida minus the fact Ekblad was already drafted by them and is still there after 9 years since the Draft.
tbh the Avs have been balls at the draft for quite a few years, apart from early first rounders (that imo kinda have to hit) there hasn't been much to write home about
Ehlers before Nylander, Kempe and Ekblad imo. Larkin #6, Ehlers #7 would be changes I would make. 2 of the best all round forwards in the NHL for me. Yeah what a strong draft! That is some list of players
what I think would be awesome if you made a board of all these redrafts as if the players were on the teams you picked SO Nylander to canucks Draisatl to Florida and just make a top 10 list for each teams possible captures
@brucemckinlay9739 that's fair but I think his reasoning was more how dare the oilers take this German player over this good Canadian boy. The usual when it comes to cherry 😄
@@JarradBruessel32 Took a couple of decades for a lot of people to catch on that his hockey takes were firmly stuck in the 70s or 80s. I enjoyed that kind of hockey when I was young but give me the skilled league all day everyday.
Ive made a video on Sorokin vs Igor and I've looked at all the stats and watched them both play over the past few years I really don't see how people give Sorokin the edge over Igor
Sorokin has the better save percentage the 3 years they have both been in the league despite playing for a team nowhere near as good as the rangers are. Sorokin carries the islanders. Also sorokin's playoff numbers are very good. His teams lack of offense is what costs them.
Shesterkin is also the backbone of the Rangers and I’d argue the Islanders are a better defensive team than the Rangers. Shesterkin has proven playoff excellence. Sorokin, although he’s also excellent, doesn’t match up to Igor’s playoff success. Sure, I get it that it’s a team sport and the Islanders didn’t make the playoffs in 2022. But consider this regarding the greatness of Igor. Shesterkin playoff stats - .929 save percentage and 2.45 GAA. Sorokin - .923 save percentage and 2.70 GAA. Shesterkin has also played double the amount of playoff games on, I firmly believe, a worse defensive team. And sorry, he’s got a Vezina with one of the most historic modern goaltender regular seasons. I’ll concede that Sorokin has had two back to back consistent, excellent seasons (he’s truly an electrifying goalie) and Igor had a bit of a let down compared to his Vezina year, but I also think it’s a folly argument to say either Shesterkin or Sorokin is more consistent considering Shesty has only had three full seasons as a starter and Sorokin has only had two full seasons. End of the day, I’ll take the guy with the Vezina in a redraft RIGHT NOW. This will be easier to look back on in 10 years.
@@RobbLovelace shesterkin played for a team that finished 12 th in goals for. The islanders finished 23rd. I would say sorokin is much more important to the islanders success
@@JarradBruessel32 if you want to have a debate about who was more valuable to their team last season (aka Hart Trophy), I will totally concede that Sorokin was more valuable to his team last season. Still, I’ll take the better playoff goalie with a Vezina.
Funny how the panthers have 3 of the top 4 draft picks from this year’s draft in their current lineup. Hey Ken Holland, Barkov and Cousins for Draisaitl? 😂
would have love to have Bennet in Columbus. Have you ever done a show on how some teams can never can put together a solid consistent playoff team. some teams seem to rebuild and rebound right away . and others never seem to . I go through the blame game .players coach GM owners refs and of course Bettman . I have been watching every night for the last 35 years . and cant figure it out. I follow the jackets leafs jets flames boston rangers and have just added seattle .do i watch to much hockey .
I would never take McCann over Reinhart. McCann has had 2 good years but before that he didn’t do anything. Reinhart has been consistent throughout his career and puts up more points on average than McCann. Also Reinhart is a smart player offensively and defensively.
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Shannon makes the offseason so much easier.
It’s how I stumbled upon him a long time ago.
Shannon you should do a video comparing faceoff % in the juniors to the NHL, players like Bergeron, Crosby, Toews, O'Reilly, Giroux, Vermette, Kopitar, Datsyuk, Brind'Amour and Sakic. Seems like there’s a lot of talk about Bedard moving to the wings instead of playing center.
As a Wings fan I would love him here but that wont happen
I think moving a young player to the wing, at least to start their NHL career, has more to do with the defensive end of things than faceoffs. A centre is responsible to be the forward who comes back on a play first. There are more responsibilities for a centre than just faceoffs. Depending on the player, it’s usually best to start them on the wing, let them get their feet wet and let them learn the 2 way game that is so important in modern hockey. Some players come in and have that end of things down already. Others take time. Everyone is different. Bedard might need a year on the wing. Maybe not.
@@christhornycroft3686dog, it’s the Chicago Blackhawks. Their defense concerns are non existant. They will be trying to lose again this season
@@jamison1010he meant playing on the LW or rw instead of center lol not the red wings
@@tricolore31I think he was kidding when he said he’d loved bedard to go to Detroit lmao
This draft went turned out pretty good for the Kings. Ultimately got Kempe, Fiala, and Arvidsson. That's half of a top 6 there
fiala and arvidsson were traded in, but yes those are good players
@@diggsfather didn't mean we drafted them, but assembled a good haul of players from that draft
Indeed. I'd argue for Fiala to be higher, but I understand that he's had his slight injury problems holding him back. Obviously, Arviddson would be much higher if he wasn't injured for ¼ of every season he plays.
still cant beat the oilers tho
@@MrSpeck321 Oilers still can't win a Cup despite having the (Alleged) top 2 players in the league.
Sam Reinhart definitely watched that seven months ago.
Brayden Point was drafted by Tampa with Minnesota's 3rd round pick. To drop one spot, Minnesota received a 7th round pick in 2015. Tampa made out like bandits.
Brayden Point was considered a late first round to mid second round prospect. Craig Button TSN had him at 17th overall. It was the Wild's folly.
It's definitely helpful to have more Brayden Point than any other team.
I mean every single team passed on Brayden Point multiple times. So it was everyone’s folly lol
@@josiahharrison9843 Sure, but Point was by far the best value on the board at that time, and the chances of that 7th rounder being worth anything was almost nil.
@@josiahharrison9843including Tampa
pasta was a damn steal at 25
Holy shit what a deep draft. You got to remember to pick Arvidsson in the 2011, 2012 and 2013 redrafts as well. ;)
Such an underrated deep draft.
Let's be honest Shannon just chose Victor Olofsson for the Avs so that the announcers would be so confused with Victor Olofsson, Fredrik Olofsson and Oskar Olausson all on the same team. 🤣
Sounds like something THG would do
Just like Pettersson and Pederson on Vancouver for a stint? 😅
@@cranehook4715Canucks have two Elias Pettersson's in the organisation right now.
@aapokettunen8796 D Petey has yet to play, however, so no getting mixed up in which one they're talking about. Yet.
Still funny how Florida ended up with Ekblad, Reinhart and Bennett
..and theyd trade the trio ++ for Leon.
@@TheScotian82Oilers would trade McDavid and Draisaitl just to lose in the finals tfym?
To be honest I think I'd have Fialla at 4,5 or 6 guys a point-per-game player and really an absolute beast just needs to stop taking dumb penalties other than that I wouldn't mind seeing a best players drafted in the late rnds (5th, 6th and 7th) from the last 10 years or so be interesting to see THG's opinion on who were the best players taken really late
As an Islanders fan myself we moan about never have a first round pick. Look what we do when we have them😱🤣
Big time misses by Garth Snow, along with Griffin Reinhart in 2012
@@skiinggator He did turn Reinhart into BOTH Barzal and Beauvillier, so credit where credit is due. I get your point though.
Yup. We screwed up big time in 2014. Probably would’ve won the cup in 2020 or 2021 if we drafted elite players in 2014. But hey, at least we hit in the later rounds.
@atlasshrugged6435 He's lucky for it, he was willing to trade all 7 picks that year to move from 4 up to 2 to get Ryan Murray. I think they dodged an even bigger bullet in the long run.
@@atlasshrugged6435 yeah but I can't predict he would be able to flip griffin Reinhart for what they eventually did. Snow also passed up Roman josi and Jake guentzel in RD 2
Fiala being behind Reinhart McCann and kempe is an absolute crime In my opinion. Still love the video though
Agreed, Fiala should probably have gone higher, and I also think Alex Tuch should be 3-4 spots higher
@@DarkLobster69 yeah tuch should be higher too
I love to think about putting together an all star team using only one draft class. When I get the time I'm going to execute this idea on my NHL videogame. 2014 team has excellent goaltending and a highscoring forwards with great help from the well capable defense.
You don't think there is any regret in Florida with drafting Ekblad? It's nothing against Ekblad, but I think Florida and also Buffalo passing on Draisaitl is a big dang-it for both of those franchises from today's point of view. And when you realize Buffalo also lost McDavid lottery... it's even worse than Ducks being second in Crosby and Bedard years.
That's some major bias right there. Ekblad has been a very solid first pairing dman in the league. Just gets over looked due to playing for the panthers.
@@JarradBruessel32I agree but at the same time you could use another 100 point forward. Ekblad is still not worth the first overall in my opinion. His injuries + his critical mistakes on the ice keep draging him down compared to other defensive peers.
imagine if they had Barkov Tkachuk and Draisaitl
@@legndery1909 I mean if he was in say the 2012 draft I would say he is easily the number 1 overall pick so.
@@JarradBruessel32 I can argue drafting Forsberg over Ekblad but thats just speculation at this point.
The Isles getting a redo on Dal Colle and Ho-Sang would be amazing...
But still want Toews and Sorokin
Bingo. Left nylander fiala and Kempe on the board.
Now this is an interesting draft year in hindsight 😅
The 2012 draft came to mind while watching those two draft ranking videos. A retake would be nice.
He did a 2012 redraft about 3 years ago if you didn't see it.
@@cliftongamespoorly6333you can also do that one yourself haha. Easiest redraft imo
As a Kings fan, i love me some Adrian Kempe, but Fiala is a more dangerous forward
Fiala should’ve gone 6-8 on this list lolll he’s so good
Kempe's speed, size, shot, and his defensive capabilities are impressive. Plus, him playing with a chip on his shoulder, and naturally with grit, he somehow manages to stay healthy. I think these qualities make him slightly more complete than Fiala.
No disrespect to Fiala though. His puck protection and retrieval in close proximity are not to be trifled with. Plus, his edges and footwork allows the elusive factor to slither between opponents with ease. Oh, and not to mention his hands. They may not be as quick as Kempe's, but they make up for that by being soft and silky. All these skills makes him an amazing playmaking threat.
He's also a smaller guy. Standing at 5'10". Compared to Kempe's 6'3".
It's really hard for me too say who should've been place higher, but I will say, Fiala is more well rounded.
Al Tuch is a beast and is automatically your captain in Vancouver. That’s my pick at 6 100%.
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So glad Larkin got so much love, I think he has been an incredible player stuck on a bad team most of his career.
Kings have Kempe, Fiala and Arvidsson now lol
Funny how that works. GM Rob Blake finds a way. Most good GM's have too. David Poille had quite the steal drafting Arviddson and Fiala in that draft too. Shame that he couldn't find a way to keep those players.
Minnesota gave away Alex Tuch, so Vegas would not take Matt Dumba in the expansion draft. Vegas selected Erik Haula. Vegas also selected Teemu Pulkkinen from Arizona - a player Arizona claimed off waivers from Minnesota near the end of the season. If the Wild had retained Pulkkinen, they likely could have offered him instead of Tuch to bypass Dumba. Vegas fleeced the Wild big time, while the Wild mismanaged their roster.
They couldn't retain pullkinen I don't think. They had to put him on waivers to make room for a guy returning from injury. Also Minnesota should have done the smart thing and let dumba go. He ended up being useless in the end. Never should have kept him.
@@JarradBruessel32 Pulkkinen was waived instead of any other player that could have been waived. It was a choice.
I agree with Dumba, and I said so at the time. He was being paid too much for his poor defensive play, and this was a chance to move his contract. In any case, he sure wasn't worth two players on the roster. Would anyone take Dumba over Tuch today? Not a chance.
Why in the world would Vegas select a waiver wire player over Tuch?
@@Spurgeon46 They selected that waiver wire player over any other player from Arizona. You assume there would have been an option to select Tuch instead, which there would not have been in that scenario.
@@Too-Odd Because Arizona had absolutely no one worthwhile to select. Minnesota has been screwed by both of their expansion drafts because they’ve had deeper rosters. We’re just lucky that they took Tuch instead of Kaprizov like they were offered.
I think youve got Montour and Barbashev low, and Reinhart a little high.
What a draft class!
i'll never forget that insane contract Ekblad got out his elc...
I'd agree with this redraft overall.
As an Islanders fan, this draft hurts. A lot. It definitely set us back as a franchise. I think if we drafted better in 2014, having two successful first round picks, we’d have won at least 1 of the cups in 2020 or 2021.
And several other drafts the amount of talent snow left on the board is pretty staggering.. Kempe, josi, nylander,fiala a shyte ton of good/great players..
Good list I'd have Fiala over McCann though cause Fiala is definitely better than McCann
Probably only did that because Fiala has had injury issues. I'd have placed Fiala at 7 or 8 though of it weren't for injuries.
@nah6666 McCann has missed a lot of games in his career from injury too they've missed a similar amount of games in their career, but it could be why he's lower than he should be he's been over a point per game the last two seasons playing with Freddy Gaudreau as his center in Minnesota, and playing on the 3rd line half the season in LA which is crazy
@@holden9278yeah probably because McCann is one of if not The Guy in Seattle
@@holden9278 I respect THG's opinion, but I 100% would not trust McCann in Fiala's place in LA. Fiala drives play, and I believe McCann is largely supported by the terrifically well balanced Seattle squad he plays with.
@nah6666 Same here lists like these come down to personal preference a lot of the time especially with draft classes this deep where a bunch of players are really good , and I think Fiala is one of the best passers and play driving wingers in the league he creates a lot of space for his linemates, and makes almost everyone he plays with better
I've been wondering where Kempe would go in his draft and there you go, are you reeding my mind ?!...thanks a lot, come any time always welcome !!...
So you're saying the draft is, for the most part, a crap shoot.
Future NHL All-stars by round selected in 2014:
1st round - 6
2nd round - 1
3rd round - 2
4th round - 1
Devon Toews at 17 is low. He’s a top 15 defenseman in the league
Toews is awesome, much better than injury hurt Ekblad. Most underrated player on league.
Also Montour last two seasons have been absolutely rocket, but that maybe isn't enough to put him over some other players.
I'd put Toews anywhere from 7-9 on this board, possibly even 6, depending on how bad you were hurting for D at that point.
I remember that year in my keeper pool I had traded for the 2nd overall pick (was drafting last) and hoped to win the lottery but lost and went 3rd overall. 2 seasons later I knew that in fact I won it 😂
Yo Shannon! Sorokin over shesterkin???? Need more of an explanation on that one!
I think he made a fair point. Shesterkin had an off year after a monster season. Although, that off year was still quite good and was even better when playoffs rolled around and he was the best player for the Rangers hands down. Sorokin has been more consistent in his entire career and has arguably had a tougher job due to the offense his team fails to provide. I personally would also take Sorokin on my team going into thos season, precisely because he's always been consistent.
Excellent! So interesting. Thanks, Shannon!! 🥇
You asked Oiler fans how they feel about Point. Drai is my favourite player by far. I wouldn’t take anyone over him. Skilled, tough, shit disturber, pissy and he’s got the strongest backhand sauce at the BBQ.
Why are you so pissy?
Definitely happy with Ehlers instead of Vrana who could create breakaways with his speed but never scored them. At least in his final couple of seasons. Whilst the teade hasn't really worked out I'm not sure we're missing anything not having Vrana
Never realized how stacked this draft was, especially with guys like Dal Colle, Virtanen, Fleury, Ritchie, Perlini, Honka, etc. who were all taken early and never lived up to their draft position.
Toews should be way higher.
I think Shesterkin should be above Sarokin. The Islanders are a more defensive team and make the goalie's job easier. Shesterkin's super season was legendary. I'd put him a 2 or 3. Draisaitl #1 for sure.
Wow, by getting rid of McCann Vancouver did even worse in this draft than I remember.
Just a suggestion, It would be interesting if you put actual draft number in brackets behind redraft position; e.g. Pasternak (25).
That draft was stacked and the GM's and scouting was SHIIIT all over the league. loll
What a monster of a draft!
Remember when the leafs had McCann and they didn't protect him in the expansion draft so they could keep justin holl and kerfoot lol so glad Dubas is gone.
Good pick by Minnesota sucks we lost Tuch in expansion thanks Vegas
It would be interesting to see rosters after all of Shannon's redrafts
Nah no way as a Caps fan would I want Eihlers over Taves, Taves would be fantastic for Carlson the way Kempney was durring the cup run for a longer period of time, and that could have honestly won the caps another cup.
id love videos of you comparing draft classes by total points/games played/other stats
Florida…. Daisaitl, Barkov, Tkuchuk. Wow
Both this and your previous video comparing number 2 draft picks from 2006-2021 makes me think that doing video about the best steals over a given period of time would be interesting.
Schmaltz is my boy, him and Keller are electric.
Previously when you have done re-drafts you also had what # the player was originally drafted in ... I found that to be useful/ interesting information and hope you do that again in future re-drafts
I would have fiala at 9 I think he is a little underrated
Islanders blew a number of post John Tavares drafts including 2014. Passed over nylander, fiala for dal colle and took josh ho sang instead of Kempe
Im an Avs fan so I'm biased, but Toews outside that top 10 is criminal to me. Even Chelios mentioned him as one of the best and most underated Dmen on the league.
25:27 Ironically Marcus Pettersson has been mentioned as a player the Sharks are targeting in the Karlsson trade, though allegedly Pittsburgh doesn't want to give him up.
Three current top 6 forwards playing for my Kings are in your top 20 redraft. Way to go GMRB and GoKingsGo
HoF dman Chris Chelios compares Devon Toews to Hofer Nick Lidstrom, so if you don't appreciate his game you should check yourself.
Also Montour going to Tampa gives me such pain as a Panthers fan
I'm just laughing at the fact the 3 out of the Top 4 are playing for Florida minus the fact Ekblad was already drafted by them and is still there after 9 years since the Draft.
The 2014 draft was a failure for Colorado from top to bottom. What a disaster.
tbh the Avs have been balls at the draft for quite a few years, apart from early first rounders (that imo kinda have to hit) there hasn't been much to write home about
Might as well call this the Florida Panthers first round. They really must have loved this draft.
Mine is
1. Draisaitl
2. Pasta
3. Sorokin
4. Shestetkin
5. Point
6. Nylander
7. Ehlers
8. Larkin
9. Fiala
10. Schmaltz
Ehlers before Nylander, Kempe and Ekblad imo. Larkin #6, Ehlers #7 would be changes I would make. 2 of the best all round forwards in the NHL for me. Yeah what a strong draft! That is some list of players
Gotta disagree on the Ehlers Nylander take
7 is a stretch, Id take him over Reinhart and prob just after Fiala, McCann
crazy stacked draft actually
Fiala too low in my opinion
what I think would be awesome if you made a board of all these redrafts as if the players were on the teams you picked SO Nylander to canucks Draisatl to Florida and just make a top 10 list for each teams possible captures
From what I remember Chiarelli only drafted David Pastrnak because the Habs wanted him.
For the rangers not having a first round pick, we did pretty good
Canucks traded mcann not happy Is a legendary video
Also Sonny Milano and D'Angelo would be my 31 & 32 if that had existed back then
The pens passed on Pastrnak for Kapanen 😂
I remember don cherry criticizing the oilers because they didn't take Bennett lol leon turned out to be the right choice
I don't listen to anything cherry has to say about the nhl after the year like 2004
There were plenty of Oilers fans who did as well.
@brucemckinlay9739 that's fair but I think his reasoning was more how dare the oilers take this German player over this good Canadian boy. The usual when it comes to cherry 😄
@@JarradBruessel32 Took a couple of decades for a lot of people to catch on that his hockey takes were firmly stuck in the 70s or 80s. I enjoyed that kind of hockey when I was young but give me the skilled league all day everyday.
@@keithck3720it's not just his hockey opinions that are stuck in the stone age.
Looking at everyone the Ducks could have taken instead of Ritchie just makes the pick hurt even more.
olofsson is a good goalscorer, but other parts of his game is not even at an NHL average, late 1st seem fitting to me.
Ive made a video on Sorokin vs Igor and I've looked at all the stats and watched them both play over the past few years I really don't see how people give Sorokin the edge over Igor
All Leafs fans would do Nylander for Ekblad in a heartbeat. That would be one of the best trades possible.
wow, what a stacked draft
Also 3 fowards from LA
Sorry Shannon, but I’m taking the goalie with a Vezina and who is the better playoff performer.
Sorokin has been the backbone for the islanders. Sorry he is more consistent and is all around better
Sorokin has the better save percentage the 3 years they have both been in the league despite playing for a team nowhere near as good as the rangers are. Sorokin carries the islanders. Also sorokin's playoff numbers are very good. His teams lack of offense is what costs them.
Shesterkin is also the backbone of the Rangers and I’d argue the Islanders are a better defensive team than the Rangers. Shesterkin has proven playoff excellence. Sorokin, although he’s also excellent, doesn’t match up to Igor’s playoff success. Sure, I get it that it’s a team sport and the Islanders didn’t make the playoffs in 2022. But consider this regarding the greatness of Igor. Shesterkin playoff stats - .929 save percentage and 2.45 GAA. Sorokin - .923 save percentage and 2.70 GAA. Shesterkin has also played double the amount of playoff games on, I firmly believe, a worse defensive team. And sorry, he’s got a Vezina with one of the most historic modern goaltender regular seasons.
I’ll concede that Sorokin has had two back to back consistent, excellent seasons (he’s truly an electrifying goalie) and Igor had a bit of a let down compared to his Vezina year, but I also think it’s a folly argument to say either Shesterkin or Sorokin is more consistent considering Shesty has only had three full seasons as a starter and Sorokin has only had two full seasons.
End of the day, I’ll take the guy with the Vezina in a redraft RIGHT NOW. This will be easier to look back on in 10 years.
@@RobbLovelace shesterkin played for a team that finished 12 th in goals for. The islanders finished 23rd. I would say sorokin is much more important to the islanders success
@@JarradBruessel32 if you want to have a debate about who was more valuable to their team last season (aka Hart Trophy), I will totally concede that Sorokin was more valuable to his team last season. Still, I’ll take the better playoff goalie with a Vezina.
Nylander over Ekblad? I know Ekblad has been injured, but he’s legit top pairing defenseman.
watching this after bergeron and krejci’s retirement and wondering where boston would be without pasta 😬
Do a Redraft of the 1970 NHL Draft?!
Nylander over Larkin ?
The disrespect to Fiala is incredible. Better than McCann by far...
Funny how the panthers have 3 of the top 4 draft picks from this year’s draft in their current lineup. Hey Ken Holland, Barkov and Cousins for Draisaitl? 😂
better than tv shows
Shannon could have put Sorokin on the Islanders and Igor on the Flames… but he chose chaos lmao far from a rangers or islanders fan
In a universe the Canucks have both Nylander and Pasta..
The Panthers and Sabres have their fingerprints all over this draft lol.
Should do a video on the most accurate draft ever
Can't believe Pastrnak was one pick before Scherbak, or what else Mtl could have had instead like Point, Kempe or a top goalie, sigh
Damn strong Keeper draft
As a Rangers fan I HATE seeing the islanders logo next to Shesty's name
would have love to have Bennet in Columbus. Have you ever done a show on how some teams can never can put together a solid consistent playoff team. some teams seem to rebuild and rebound right away . and others never seem to . I go through the blame game .players coach GM owners refs and of course Bettman . I have been watching every night for the last 35 years . and cant figure it out. I follow the jackets leafs jets flames boston rangers and have just added seattle .do i watch to much hockey .
I would never take McCann over Reinhart. McCann has had 2 good years but before that he didn’t do anything. Reinhart has been consistent throughout his career and puts up more points on average than McCann. Also Reinhart is a smart player offensively and defensively.
Ekblad is expected to be out until christmas. he can't play 82 games. Awareness, All-knowing?
He said IF he can play 82 games. I'm pretty sure he knows Ekblad is out for 6 months...
For me, having Ehlers at #13 is way to low. 0.76 over his career blows Kempe out of the water for instance
Caps fans still want Vrana. Should have never been traded.
Virtanen goes 1st for sure
Toews gotta be top 10. I seriously think he would be the #1 left d on team canada