I use marginnotes 3 for studying and mind-mapping. I find liquidtext useful for after-class questions, I just excerpted the questions I did wrong and revised them before exams without going through the original question banks.
I totally prefer the MarginNote methods, but the infinite unconstrained mind maps, as demonstrated at the end of the video, is a required feature for me.
Thanks you for sharing. I love this video. I have both applications, in my view, i love liquid text more when it comes to user friendly, however, I found that liquidtext oftenly out of response when deal with large size pdf. On the other hand, margin note can sync easily across different device between IOS and Mac OS, if you have a MacBook, you should choose Margin note.
My MarginNote fucked up my notes which cost me weeks to finish because it sucks at synchronization.... i am here to think if i should continue to use it
Hi 🙋🏻♂️ there...I have only tested margin notes 3 in trial mode and it’s very stable but it’s down side is it’s complicated user interface. On the other hand LiquidText user interface is simple and awesome. But it’s very BUGGY. It always crashes. When you make 20 plus pages ink notes in the workspace canvas and you have 10-15 books in the project, then the inking will be very laggy, eraser will not work, search function is completely broken etc. So it becomes literally unusable. The developers of the LiquidText are very nice people. They are trying their best but there is something fundamentally wrong that they can’t seem to rectify...After few months, I’ve stopped using LiquidText and switched over to GoodNotes for pdf annotations and notes.So the idea 💡 of LiquidText is great but it doesn’t work with big project’s containing pdf textbooks and after 20-30 pages ink notes in the workspace, the inking becomes horribly slow and eraser doesn’t work. Search in multiple documents and for tags is completely broken.literally unusable. May be in future, if GoodNotes doesn’t do well (at the time being I am reading,annotating big pdf textbooks without any issue!) then I may go towards margin note...Margin notes developers must work to simplify user interface to make it more user friendly. NOTE: hardware info: I have iPad 6 (2018) WiFi only model with 128gb ssd. I use it Apple Pencil 1.Thanks and regards.
@@PaperlessX Hi 🙋🏻♂️ Ropsie... After the introduction of version 04 of LiquidText, my initial reaction was that hurrah! Finally they fixed it! But all the enthusiasm vanished into thin air when i progressively used the application... Then upon contact, the developers told me that all these issues (frequent crashes, digital inking problems in workspace, failure of search in multiple documents etc) boil down to one memory management issue and they say that it’s because of an issue with one component of pdf renderer that LiquidText use...As the 3rd party developers took too much time than expected, then the LiquidText released the most recent update to partially fix this problem... They say that the most recent update has actually resolved the above problems, at-least partially, for many users but alas! it doesn’t have any good effect at all in my case... Fingers crossed 🤞🏼 that the partner company will come up with some magical solution soon! No matter what is the size of the project, if handwritten notes exceed 50 plus (A4/Letter) pages in the workspace then the app becomes buggy. And it’s buggy when you search in multiple documents. Haha 😆 so that’s the whole story...Has this most recent update solved your problem atleast partially??? Please let me know... Best regards...
Hi, I'm looking for an app that does reference managing very well, allows annotating in an iPad app, has auto-backup and has a desktop client. All-in-one. Is there such a service?
@@james0072829 Thanks for your recommendation, this is what I've been using since the beginning. However, they just announced that they will be dropping support for the Ipad app!
Flexcil is used to be a baby version of LiquidText. This year I have mostly used Nebo, Apple Notes and MarginNote. We are still to do a complete review of Flexcil
Hey :) I am searching for an app to support my master thesis writing. I mostly have to go through a lot of pdf documents, highlighting stuff and exporting phrases / paragraphs. Normally I just copy & paste the paragraph into a word document and make a remark where I got it from. Do you think MN3 or LT could help there? I normally organise my material like a mind map and connect all the different findings by topics (e.g. theoretical background, analysis of the subject, ...) and from what I saw in your videos, both of the apps would give a huge boost in efficiency for that kind of work. If I want to read up on a specific phrase that I copied, I would not have to open (and search) for the pdf but could use the provided link on the canvas.
Both apps can do that. But both apps lag with massive documents... it’s something you’d have to deal with. MarginNote 3 might be the better option for you though
Paperless Student Thank you! Do you have a different solution for this kind of workflow when trying to go completely paperless? My word documents got so messy from time to time, that I started printing out papers - again - which is not what I want to do, since it will be thousands of pages. PS.: Awesome channel, I watched many of your videos the last days :)
Did that now. Deciding on the app to use is a horrible job... Sadly most of the apps do not provide a trial version for some days :( Guess I am just gonna roll the dice.
Hi! Is there possibility to use maginnote 3 on a android device? If not which app i can use on android device that works similar with marginnote 3? Tks
Hi Ropsie, thanks for the video. I wonder your opinion about advantage of PDF Expert over these 2 MN LT apps. Is it meaningful to have PDF Expert if I have these MN LT already?
Hi 😃 PDF Expert is a PDF editor, which these two are not (they simply annotate PDFs). That said, it makes sense if you want to edit the contents of your PDFs.... in a nutshell
If you work between multiple systems (iOS /Windows/ Android) avoid Margin Note 3 like the plague. I've got so many notes that are locked away in my Margin note 3 files. The reason being that it exports flattened PDFs, the annotations of which are not accessible to other devices and pdf readers. So I could not continue editing the PDF on windows. I've also brought this to the developer's attention on the forums, to which they respond that they're focusing on other features. Liquid text at the very least leaves the highlights accessible to you.
thanks a lot for the video! I've recently got an Ipad Pro and am searching for an app which is 1) a very solid PDF reader (don't care about e-pub too much); 2) able to add expandible, hand-written notes wherever I tap my finger on the document. MarginNote is among those I tried the closest to my need, but I find it overwhelming for my simple needs (don't really need all the mindmap/review thing). would you have anything in mind that may suit me? any feedback would be very much appreciated!! and... keep up the great job!
MN3 is probably the closest to what you need. If you don't need the mind map, then you can just stick to outlines instead... haven't met an app that approaches PDF annotation like MarginNote does
Hello from Italy. I would like to know which is the best app for importing material from web. I had a look at web search in MarginNote 3 but it seems more simple the liquidtext upload. Thank you for your videos
Hi, very beautiful video. I would like to change my iPad with a surface. Is there a Windows app that allows me to mindmap from document like marginnote? It is a feature absolutely necessary for me. Thank you for your time.
@@PaperlessX if you have any direct contact with liquid text please ask them for thos feature immediately. If margin note 3 can have workspace on right in portrait mode, why no liquid text. I contacted their customer care but they were pretty robotic with their reply
@@PaperlessX but not in portrait made at present. However the good news in liquid text in a twitter reply confirmed the feature will be released shortly
I've watched some of your videos before which led me to primarily using MarginNote 3 because I'm a sucker for doing excerpts :D I previously bought LiquidText a few days before that so... well MarginNote 3 seemed better for reading a bunch of papers. I was wondering tho for what do you use LiquidText these days? Do you even still use a regular PDF reader like Foxit PDF? If only it was possible to add ebooks from folders into the "study" notes and if it could only have the same export capabilities as LiquidText it would really be perfect :D
Agreed 100%!!! LiquidText is to margin note as notability is to GoodNotes!!! Notability has been updated to 9.2 and now the highlighter appears behind the text! Also can import documents directly from the files app!!! Take care...
Paperless X No, not at all. It is exceptionally good for a non native speaker. I’m just interested in the story behind your good grasp because speaking English at your level in a non English country is, as I said earlier, really seldom.
Marginnote2 had an always-on category sidebar in library view. It was very convenient for browsing through your categories. Marginnote3 got rid of it so now it’s clunkier to browse through your categories. :( You have to use the popup, and you can only get to the popup by tapping the button at the top, ugh!
College professor here.... about to share your channel with my students!!!
I am happy a professor approves 😃
Because of you I went paperless. I am a general surgeon
Your videos always make me really regret not buying the 12.9-in instead when I had the chance.
Jackie Kittie Mind explaining why? I‘m really satisfied with the 11-in and feel like the larger one would be a bit too large
I regret buyin the 11😩.Id prefer the bigger size
@@gidelix i returns the 13 inch the 11 for me is the way to go
Just buy both. You can not have too many. 😉
I use marginnotes 3 for studying and mind-mapping. I find liquidtext useful for after-class questions, I just excerpted the questions I did wrong and revised them before exams without going through the original question banks.
Clear MarginNote is the choice for my study. Many of my books are ePub so even that small detail is critical.
Finally! Thank you so much for putting so much effort into scrutinizing these two giants. 😍❤️❤️❤️
Anytime. I hope that was useful 😃
I totally prefer the MarginNote methods, but the infinite unconstrained mind maps, as demonstrated at the end of the video, is a required feature for me.
Marginnote 3 is amazing, I love it especially for reading
Thank you for really deep diving into the good and bad. This was incredibly helpful.
I really love using LiquidText, but I agree that it's document-management system makes no sense.
Thanks you for sharing. I love this video.
I have both applications, in my view, i love liquid text more when it comes to user friendly, however, I found that liquidtext oftenly out of response when deal with large size pdf. On the other hand, margin note can sync easily across different device between IOS and Mac OS, if you have a MacBook, you should choose Margin note.
Very detailed breakdown 👍
My MarginNote fucked up my notes which cost me weeks to finish because it sucks at synchronization.... i am here to think if i should continue to use it
How to get the margin note mind map to the left of the screen and book to the right?
three-dots icon (on the documents side) > Documents on Left
Thank you, very informative.
Hi 🙋🏻♂️ there...I have only tested margin notes 3 in trial mode and it’s very stable but it’s down side is it’s complicated user interface.
On the other hand LiquidText user interface is simple and awesome. But it’s very BUGGY. It always crashes. When you make 20 plus pages ink notes in the workspace canvas and you have 10-15 books in the project, then the inking will be very laggy, eraser will not work, search function is completely broken etc. So it becomes literally unusable. The developers of the LiquidText are very nice people. They are trying their best but there is something fundamentally wrong that they can’t seem to rectify...After few months, I’ve stopped using LiquidText and switched over to GoodNotes for pdf annotations and notes.So the idea 💡 of LiquidText is great but it doesn’t work with big project’s containing pdf textbooks and after 20-30 pages ink notes in the workspace, the inking becomes horribly slow and eraser doesn’t work. Search in multiple documents and for tags is completely broken.literally unusable.
May be in future, if GoodNotes doesn’t do well (at the time being I am reading,annotating big pdf textbooks without any issue!) then I may go towards margin note...Margin notes developers must work to simplify user interface to make it more user friendly. NOTE: hardware info: I have iPad 6 (2018) WiFi only model with 128gb ssd. I use it Apple Pencil 1.Thanks and regards.
Hi 🙋🏾♀️ Abid. I thought you said they fixed the problem? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 and yes, the developers are very nice
@@PaperlessX Hi 🙋🏻♂️ Ropsie... After the introduction of version 04 of LiquidText, my initial reaction was that hurrah! Finally they fixed it! But all the enthusiasm vanished into thin air when i progressively used the application... Then upon contact, the developers told me that all these issues (frequent crashes, digital inking problems in workspace, failure of search in multiple documents etc) boil down to one memory management issue and they say that it’s because of an issue with one component of pdf renderer that LiquidText use...As the 3rd party developers took too much time than expected, then the LiquidText released the most recent update to partially fix this problem... They say that the most recent update has actually resolved the above problems, at-least partially, for many users but alas! it doesn’t have any good effect at all in my case... Fingers crossed 🤞🏼 that the partner company will come up with some magical solution soon! No matter what is the size of the project, if handwritten notes exceed 50 plus (A4/Letter) pages in the workspace then the app becomes buggy. And it’s buggy when you search in multiple documents. Haha 😆 so that’s the whole story...Has this most recent update solved your problem atleast partially??? Please let me know... Best regards...
Hi, I'm looking for an app that does reference managing very well, allows annotating in an iPad app, has auto-backup and has a desktop client. All-in-one. Is there such a service?
Scrivener comes to mind... MarginNote does when working with other apps
@@PaperlessX thanks, I will definitely check it out!
Try mendley for referencing
@@james0072829 Thanks for your recommendation, this is what I've been using since the beginning. However, they just announced that they will be dropping support for the Ipad app!
@Victória Régia Pires it looks like mendely is discontinued for ipad?
Hi Ropsie, Windows version available now 30May20. I wonder your thoughts about it, hope you can add to one of your review later. Thanks.
I KNOW! I SAW THAT! And I was like, hmmm, progress! Finally!
How would you say these apps compare to flexcil. I’m in biochem and currently use noteability . I was wondering what app you use the most
Flexcil is used to be a baby version of LiquidText. This year I have mostly used Nebo, Apple Notes and MarginNote. We are still to do a complete review of Flexcil
Hey :) I am searching for an app to support my master thesis writing. I mostly have to go through a lot of pdf documents, highlighting stuff and exporting phrases / paragraphs. Normally I just copy & paste the paragraph into a word document and make a remark where I got it from. Do you think MN3 or LT could help there? I normally organise my material like a mind map and connect all the different findings by topics (e.g. theoretical background, analysis of the subject, ...) and from what I saw in your videos, both of the apps would give a huge boost in efficiency for that kind of work. If I want to read up on a specific phrase that I copied, I would not have to open (and search) for the pdf but could use the provided link on the canvas.
Both apps can do that. But both apps lag with massive documents... it’s something you’d have to deal with. MarginNote 3 might be the better option for you though
Paperless Student Thank you! Do you have a different solution for this kind of workflow when trying to go completely paperless? My word documents got so messy from time to time, that I started printing out papers - again - which is not what I want to do, since it will be thousands of pages. PS.: Awesome channel, I watched many of your videos the last days :)
Word is terrible with that 😬 Have you looked into Flexcil? ruclips.net/video/1QeGOOdwOIo/видео.html
Did that now. Deciding on the app to use is a horrible job... Sadly most of the apps do not provide a trial version for some days :(
Guess I am just gonna roll the dice.
@@fynn8195 At the risk of making a complete twat out of myself, but, have you tried Goodnotes to find a solution to your problem?
Hi! Thank you for a very detailed and useful review.
Do you still use Liquid Text for any purposes?
No... I don’t.
Hi! Is there possibility to use maginnote 3 on a android device? If not which app i can use on android device that works similar with marginnote 3? Tks
MarginNote 3 is not available on Android. We haven't found an alternative for it yet.
Hello, I have a question, please: is possible to split the document and the canvas in portrait mode (One on top of the other) ?
Yes it is. I assumed you are talking about LiquidText
Hi Ropsie, thanks for the video. I wonder your opinion about advantage of PDF Expert over these 2 MN LT apps. Is it meaningful to have PDF Expert if I have these MN LT already?
Hi 😃
PDF Expert is a PDF editor, which these two are not (they simply annotate PDFs). That said, it makes sense if you want to edit the contents of your PDFs.... in a nutshell
If you work between multiple systems (iOS /Windows/ Android) avoid Margin Note 3 like the plague. I've got so many notes that are locked away in my Margin note 3 files. The reason being that it exports flattened PDFs, the annotations of which are not accessible to other devices and pdf readers. So I could not continue editing the PDF on windows.
I've also brought this to the developer's attention on the forums, to which they respond that they're focusing on other features.
Liquid text at the very least leaves the highlights accessible to you.
They really need to work on that. No feature is more important that syncing properly. 🤦🏾♀️
What do you recommend for Windows 10 instead of MarginNote 3? Is there any other app beside LiquidText for pdf annotation?
Hi guys i want to buy one of this app in your opinion which one i should pick
Thanks;););)
thanks a lot for the video! I've recently got an Ipad Pro and am searching for an app which is 1) a very solid PDF reader (don't care about e-pub too much); 2) able to add expandible, hand-written notes wherever I tap my finger on the document. MarginNote is among those I tried the closest to my need, but I find it overwhelming for my simple needs (don't really need all the mindmap/review thing). would you have anything in mind that may suit me? any feedback would be very much appreciated!! and... keep up the great job!
MN3 is probably the closest to what you need. If you don't need the mind map, then you can just stick to outlines instead... haven't met an app that approaches PDF annotation like MarginNote does
@@PaperlessX thanks a lot!
Hello from Italy. I would like to know which is the best app for importing material from web. I had a look at web search in MarginNote 3 but it seems more simple the liquidtext upload. Thank you for your videos
LiquidText is better for importing from the web
Have you looked at DevonThink?
Hi, very beautiful video.
I would like to change my iPad with a surface. Is there a Windows app that allows me to mindmap from document like marginnote?
It is a feature absolutely necessary for me.
Thank you for your time.
We haven't had any experience with Windows on the Surface yet, so we don't know any apps
does both the application not lag on opening large pdf files like medical books of 3k pages?
Both lag when you add notes. But LiquidText is the only one that lags and crashes with big files
@@PaperlessX thanks so much for the response..very helpful 👌 🧡
@@PaperlessX can a 190-page pdf lag when loading it? Or just the 3k books?
un problema es que debes tener cuenta activa de icloud para usar margin note
Thanks for the video! Greeting from Brasil!
can you open multiple (full) pdf files side-by-side in margin note?
It uses tabs. They are not really side-by-side though
Can you suggest an app that makes my annotations into notes...?
In Mac you can extract annotations with automator workflow
None that comes to mind 🤔
Skim for macOS can do this. But only for typed notes as it’s a desktop application.
No i needed for my ipad while highlighting pdf ...
Liquidtext any day !
any recommendation for android users?
We haven’t had Android experience yet
Can you please make an update on that video?
Sure. We have it on our to-do list
How about their respective update policies? Which app keeps adding more features and regularly shows signs of improvements?
MarginNote 3 updates more frequently... but I think they are probably both a bit slow with releasing updates.
Is there an Android app like this which allows for side-by-side?
Like which one?
@@PaperlessX like LiquidText for example?
We don’t know much about Android apps yet. LiquidText doesn’t have an Android version. Sorry
Where do you get the books from? iBooks, inkling? Or other source?
Thanks for the info
By the way, great tutorial
My university library
Hi. Is there someway to use liquid text in portrait mode and have the workspace by the side rather than up or down, as it is in margin note 3
No, in portrait mode, your workspace goes below your textbooks and there's no way to change that at the moment
@@PaperlessX if you have any direct contact with liquid text please ask them for thos feature immediately. If margin note 3 can have workspace on right in portrait mode, why no liquid text. I contacted their customer care but they were pretty robotic with their reply
LiquidText can too... settings... general... left-hand mode and your workspace will shift
@@PaperlessX but not in portrait made at present. However the good news in liquid text in a twitter reply confirmed the feature will be released shortly
What do You prefer, type or pencil notes?
Pencil notes l... definitely
According to my understanding, this video said that margin is for studying textbook and liquidtext is for research... i think..
both can do either... it depends on your approach to your work
@@PaperlessX Thanks for your supplement～
I've watched some of your videos before which led me to primarily using MarginNote 3 because I'm a sucker for doing excerpts :D I previously bought LiquidText a few days before that so... well MarginNote 3 seemed better for reading a bunch of papers.
I was wondering tho for what do you use LiquidText these days? Do you even still use a regular PDF reader like Foxit PDF?
If only it was possible to add ebooks from folders into the "study" notes and if it could only have the same export capabilities as LiquidText it would really be perfect :D
I don’t use PDF Expert for my studies anymore. I only use MarginNote 3. And I don’t use any basic PDFs either
Paperless X alright ok thanks for answering my question! :D
LiquidText is a cool idea, but it's sooo buggy it's frustrating to use.
That is soooo true! We keep waiting for them to fix the bugs :(
Errr... LiquidText does have auto-back (at very least on my 2018 iPadPro)!
Where? Because my iPad pro 2018 doesn't have it? Please do tell
Liquidtext is the way more intuitive App for me. I tried both.
Agreed 100%!!! LiquidText is to margin note as notability is to GoodNotes!!! Notability has been updated to 9.2 and now the highlighter appears behind the text! Also can import documents directly from the files app!!! Take care...
Abid Khan I like notability way more than GoodNotes.
I absolutely love you accent. You are very articulate. Where is that accent from?
Thank you. I am from Zimbabwe (Southern Africa)
Paperless X how come your English is so good?
Is it supposed to be bad? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Paperless X
No, not at all. It is exceptionally good for a non native speaker. I’m just interested in the story behind your good grasp because speaking English at your level in a non English country is, as I said earlier, really seldom.
I am a native speaker actually, in a sense... 🤣 English is one of the three official languages in my country... 😃
Marginnote 3 or flexcil ? For studying pdf n note taking
Depends on your preferences really. Are you willing to spend time learning MarginNote?
@@PaperlessX yes I'm about to watch your videos on it and I already like marginnote more
margin note是中国人设计的哦^_^
"Only God knows why the software does that...." That is funny.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Marginnote2 had an always-on category sidebar in library view. It was very convenient for browsing through your categories. Marginnote3 got rid of it so now it’s clunkier to browse through your categories. :( You have to use the popup, and you can only get to the popup by tapping the button at the top, ugh!
I’d like to be able to move the note list to the left side too. And no more fullscreen in version 3. The toolbar at the top is always on.
You can move your notes to the left: ruclips.net/video/FtrRgpK9yFc/видео.html