I just found out today that Seventeen X The Saem has a travel kit where each member has a skin care item. Joshua got the "Silk Hair Repair Treatment" (Jeonghan got the "Silk Hair Repair Shampoo") and I found it to be too perfect.
still salty this didn't win best dance, because, as a competitive dancer, i think the symbolism, formations, and movements are so unique and beautiful and nothing really can compare
Yasss. It was the first thing i noticed. Like wow finally, they invested in a brighter lighting. I mean it is a waste to view these masterpieces in dim lights. I love dem moves but hard to appreciate it enough thru dat.
I think that's because Pledis didn't pay the bill so they had a black out and the video would just be total black thus they had no choice to film it at other place.
@@lianifire ahah it wasnt the cameraman who was behind the camera tho... remember svt, self-producing idols. they swung a piece of string on the camera
0:14 I feel like people don’t appreciate this move as much as it should be. It’s SOOOO subtle yet so damn powerful - why? The instrumental is going OFF and usually at that point we have moved away from the intro and going into a hard ass dance but n o p e they went super subtle by just lifting their right knee from the floor LIKE WHAT THE HECKKKK it’s too good pls
THE OPENING GOES SO HARD!! I agree so much, i replayed it so much it's such a captivating move, and I love that this dance practice emphasizes special parts like this.
I WAS SEARCHING FOR THISSS COMMENT! I KEEPING COMING BACK JUST TO WATCH THIS STEP! AND IT'S WEIRDLY ATTRACTIVE IN THIS VIDEO! NO OTHER VIDEO EMPHASISES ON IT I GUESS!!! Sorry for the caps! That's how excited that one step gets me😭❤️
For new carats : Jeonghan : main dancer Joshua : main dancer Hoshi: main dancer Jun : main dancer Dino : main dancer The8 : main dancer Vernon : main dancer S.coups : main dancer Mingyu : main dancer Boo : main dancer Woozi : main dancer Woonwoo : main dancer Dk : main dancer Hope this helps Have a good day!!
A lot of people get annoyed with the camera movements, am i the only one who appreciate it? u know it's harder to follow the movements since svt coreographies are never been easy.. moreover the cameramen really did justice to show how sharp the choreography is. Especially when hoshi's part came out it really cool tho
As a dancer I can say there are so many dancing details(you may notice in their individual fancams) unshowed and that's why I'm disappointed. Dance practice should show the whole dance that's why it made for, but here it is just like another MV. Which is maybe good for SVTN stans, but those who wanted to see choreo(which is smash good) didn't have chance for it because of all unnecessary camera angle changes
My sister is a dancing channel (she covers) and I tried doing a moving camera shot (Snapping Cover) and it was hard to follow the movements so I think the camera movement is cool.
With other groups, it is obvious who the main dancer is and who's the one that struggles with dancing a little bit more than the others. But with Seventeen, unless you read their individual profiles you can't tell at all! All of them are on such a high level at everything, especially at dancing!
Exactly! Usually you'd have the current singing/rapping members, being center, and then two of the best dancing members right besides them, but with Svt, that isn't the case, because they also think about who's going to sing next. And yes, you can't always tell who's the best, it's amazing!
Nah, you definitely can still see. You can't however if you purposely make it thick enough to cover everything (putting even the side fringes on the front)
After listening to everything I could find where Seventeen talks about this song it became apparent to me that the reason for the camera movement in this is to mimic the effects of being intoxicated. It seems as though they want Carats to feel the way they do when poisoned by their fears. I personally think that this effect is genius and really connects us to them on an even deeper level. They are inviting us to see and feel the song and choreography from their perspective and that is so very special. I love them more and more every day because of things like this. You did well my loves!!!💗💙💗💙
Seventeen literally exists as choreography lessons. Now, I don't know much about kpop, but I love watching Seventeen's choreography videos. The reason they're so nice to watch dance is not particularly just because the dance is impressive (which it IS), but because they understand the song is a singing/rapping performance first. Therefore, the choreography more or less centers around getting people in the right places at the right times and making switches clear. Take 1:23 through 1:34, for example. We transition out of the last dance section into this one by literally walking through the previously set up formation, re-centering focus for this new thing. Then, they set up three layers of performers over each other, so that when it was time for one person to end and the next to begin, the previous group just walking, nothing fancy, just walking, and your eyes were already on the next people that were important. But that was a formation they made and used over the course of twenty seconds; however, their planning ahead is INSANE. Baseball cap boyo over here has his position in the formation set by 0:14, right of pick hair mcgee. It isn't until 0:46, over 30 seconds later that this position pays off, allowing him to seamlessly take focus while going right instead of left. They thought about what needed to happen here to transition to viewer through one singer into the next, and focused one him being exactly where he needed to be at the beginning of the song to make that happen. I know there's a running joke of "I bet you didn't see them do this," especially if you're watching the art that is Pretty U, but it's true for a reason. At 1:00, everyone is dancing in one formation, completely in sync, no one off doing their own thing. Then, at 1:14, the dance separates to reveal four people that seemingly had no part of the previous dance. But they must have. To pull this off, the four were positioned off the back-sides of the triangle formation, so that when they broke off, the triangle just got slightly smaller. Point is, the formations are thought about meticulously so that the dance remains fluid while watching it. Finally, let's take a look at how they use the center to carry meaning. Perhaps best shown at 1:50. This grimace-hair looking boy is established as our focal point pretty simply: he's standing, no one else is. Awesome, but they everyone needs to be standing when the next drop starts, so what do they do? They set the formation center to the left of where the singer is, still allowing you to see the singer perfectly while everyone standing; they make sure to only do small dance moves to not draw to much attention before the drop. Then, when the beat does drop, the dance becomes intense and expressive again, redrawing your focus 0.2 millimeters to the left, back to center, to the next line of focus. Which then runs through the same procedure as 1:23 - 1:34. These videos are dance videos, sure, but the dance first-and-formost is concerned with maintaining clear communication for who is singing, and all of this information is seamlessly incorporated into the dance, so the song no longer exists apart from it. The two are linked. The dance won't make sense without the song, and the song makes less sense without the dance. I think part of why I find so much enjoyment in watching their choreography is because, as you can probably tell, I don't know anyone's names. Therefore, I have no bias that I'm particularly focused on, and I'm able to watch the song from a more-or-less outsider point of view, just focusing on whatever the heck my eyes follow. But jeez, their choreography is in a league of its own from anything I've ever seen. In summary, colorful hair bois bounce beautifully. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. P.S: Just an appreciation for 2:31, where they rotate on beat. The four steps match the hi-hats into the drop, which is just beautiful and I love it, and that must've been hard.
This is an amazing analysis, and I'm glad that you took the time to break it down for us. No shade to other groups, but one reason that they're able to focus on the most optimal blocking (for the song parts) is that all the members are, to out it simply and obviously, really good at dancing, and not only that have a very similar foundational understanding of movement and rhythm that allows them especially to appear as they are moving as one body. Other groups often have one or two members who are not as natural at dancing (this is NORMAL and not to be ashamed of) but that presents an extra logistical challenge where choreographers have to constantly be aware of their positions in the formation and make sure not to block them in difficult combos, which results in limitations to creative expression. However with seventeen, you don't need to worry about it because you can expect that every member would be capable of doing even the most hardest moves. That's why you see main vocals, etc. doing the dance breaks (like in Hit) not because they're the best dancers and had to be there, but because it was convenient to put them there for the purposes of the song. Another reason is heavy member involvement in the choreography process. They often work with select professionals, but the final product (especially regarding formations I assume) lies heavily under their jurisdiction, and they are right for that because ultimately it's the members that know their strengths the most. Choi Youngjoon, who works with then the most, says that working with the performance unit is like working with another choreography team because they are that qualified and capable. I actually feel like groups who aren't able to have as much input aren't able to show more of themselves because their choreographers don't know their strengths enough.
Wow. Thank you so much for this analysis. I feel like I understood the choreography in a whole other light now. And I really liked how you said at the end about how you just let your eyes follow what’s on the screen. Because I feel Seventeen really knows how to put someone under the spotlight as in centre, very effortlessly and without the viewers having to search. Whether the centre is at the centre, back or sides. They know how to direct the viewers’ gaze so that even in a busy choreography like Adore U or Snap Shoot, you can still know who’s the one singing or rapping and because of that they were able to pull of the ‘wait-that-wasn’t-there-before’ moment like in Pretty U where they yeeted a whole sofa off the stage. This might have been obvious for some people but I kid you not, I didn’t notice at all that the sofa was gone when the pre-chorus with Seungkwan, the main vocal, happens. I could register the fact that there was a sofa before and no sofa after but I guess I was just too mesmerised by their performance that it doesn’t quite link up to me until the 5th or 6th performance of Pretty U that I’ve watched.
I’m very late to comment but Seventeen are seriously theE best overall dancers in kpop group wise. There choreography is always novel, sharp, and CLEAN. This is why I love Seventeen. They never fail to amaze the crap outta me. Sincerely, a professional dancer
you should watch his fancams tho! i wonder why his dance caught my attention the most too but after thinking abt it.. his dance lines are amazing. idk much about the right term for it but he always give just the right amount of energy and flex to his dance moves
seventeeen has some of the best and hardest choreographies in all of kpop....also their choreographies are so good at telling stories and bringing out small details..its literally so cinematic and entertaining..and the way the boys dance is absolutley amazing they change their execution to fit the mood of each song like jeonghan here 0:28 was just so amazing...not anything cool but you can see how he was holding his arm tightly while bringing his hand up like u can see the tension.
Kae V ohhh but during 'Home' era, i remembered they only released one choreography video with a still camera work. I thought this was the same thing but with moving camera work lol
Kay stellar camera work aside, this CHOREO. a masterpiece 💗✨ the small, yet powerful wrist keypoint is so Sensual as the sharp kick that follows serves as it's *duality!* well the lingering wrist move afterwards is just as aesthetic. the hip sways & body rolls are gentle, but leave such an impact on the performance and the opening poses what looks to be reaching for an escape... artwork, all in itself. throw in the visuals of Vernon♡ himself, Jeonghan's androgynous beauty, Soonyoung channeling lethal Hoshi, Minghao looking divine, Jisoo's striking expressions, ALL of our stunning boys! more than anything, the generally heartfelt lyrics to this track and the artistry of the fears shown in it's MV-- what you're left with is nothing short of Hauntingly Spectacular 💐 even as a Carat, im floored! An Ode, in its entirety, is deserving of AWARDS!!!
Before watching seventeen Me watching other groups: damn they synchronized as f After watching seventeen Me watching other groups: why aren’t they synchronized
😂lol that's what I have been thinking after I became a carat. Really no other group seems more synchronized than SEVENTEEN now..they've taken my heart noww😍
진짜 첫부분에 모든 동작들, 손올리는 거 부터 그냥 하나하나 다 소름이네요..... 특히 23초쯤 정말 소름,,, 어쩜 하나하나 이렇게 다 정교하고 소름돋는 표현들 동작들 춤선들 진짜 몇번을 돌려봐도 말로 다 표현못할 감탄밖에 안나옵니다,,, 진짜 아이돌중 실력은 대한민국최고같아요,,,,ㅠㅠ 멋있습니다...
also the day that award shows actually recognize who truly delivers the best dance performances instead of basing it on charts is the day the kpop industry finds true peace
Agree. We have so many live performances of them which are zooming in and out like this. I also want a choreo video where i can see everything and everyone.
@@dhiyaanasywa2556 but if im not mistaken they name it choreography video since boom boom era, for part switch etc they name it special video. but before boom boom era they name it dance practice tho
okay but seventeen is a group that is always consistently in sync/close to perfection with each other- you can tell they really take the time to practice details with each movie,, anyways this low angle filming is EVERYTHING
came down here to comment about wanting to pet Joshua's hair so bad but I see that his hair already caught everyone's attention o3o so in conclusion, he looks floofy af
I KNOW, I just wanna run my hands thru it so bad. It looks so healthy despite the fact it's been dyed many times. Those hairstylists are nurturing tf outta their hair. 😭👌
Ok I'm still not over this. This choreography drives me insane, especially after the last chorus to the end. I get so hype every time the chorus comes on and I have to rewind it to watch the move over and over again. How can they be this talented CONSISTENTLY???
I've been a carat for 5 years now and I genuinely haven't been able to ever comprehend how they are all such phenomenal dancers who are always in sync and create intensely beautiful choreo everytime
there’s no one behind the camera tho. remember, svt the self producing idols? they attached a string to the camera and the celling to swing back and forth
naega hosh how does the camere go up and down?and make close ups without ‘swinging back’? How does the camera tilt? Bro it’s is clearly not swinging back and forth on a string
SEVENTEEN's choreography has always been captivating on its own. The formation, the subtle yet meaningful details in their moves, the way each member's part is highlighted and of course their signature synchronization, put all these together and you'll find it's never enough to truly appreciate their work of art. Personally, I think a simple choreography video is enough because we can get to see the full picture of the dance with all member. There is no need for flashy camera work and the constant camera movements just makes it more distracting. But after all, I understand that they're working hard to show us their best. So, "Thank you SEVENTEEN for giving us this fascinating song and dance. You've worked hard and we appreciate that!"
and this isnt even their highest level technical-wise!! check out the choreo's for getting closer, 24h, fallin' flower, home;run, THANKS, Don't Wanna Cry, CLAP, and Rock With You to name a few of my favorites. you will be BLOWN AWAY.
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this is very very random but Shuas’ hair looks so healthy ;-;
I wonder what he did differently.
I know for one that it's longer... But it looks silkier too - much like minghao's.
It suits him a lot I hope we see this look on him at a stage
dear bangtan literally!!!
I seriously felt my hair dry after seeing his hair
dear bangtan And also it’s so long without any styling,,, it’s so cute
Pledis: how much conditioner do you want ?
Joshua: _yes_
MonCaraTeez Lmao
it literally b o u n c e s
Must ask him.. What conditioner he use 😂🙏
I just found out today that Seventeen X The Saem has a travel kit where each member has a skin care item. Joshua got the "Silk Hair Repair Treatment" (Jeonghan got the "Silk Hair Repair Shampoo") and I found it to be too perfect.
Nikka S omfg for real 😂 this is the best thing ever
Joshua's hair looks so amazing I was just staring at him for 3 minutes
Perhaps I did too, I would look like a mushroom if I tried that hairstyle while he looks like an attractive mop somehow
I was just looking at how cute Vernon is
sameee
Same
Haha same
still salty this didn't win best dance, because, as a competitive dancer, i think the symbolism, formations, and movements are so unique and beautiful and nothing really can compare
Maybe they dont have an award category for this art.😊
True. I'll never forget their rage after them not winning that category
@@comebackletsstreamsvtmvaga7855 yes
I’m still salty about it.
i was looking for this comment ....this is just perfection
Why is no one talking about how extra extra attractive jeonghan was at the beginning
like seriously i couldn’t take my eyes off him
tell me abt it
Oooohhh yeaaaahhhh!!!!
right! i was like legit only looking at him oop😳
bruh.. not just at the beginning
Let's be honest, nowadays there are lot of kpop groups that are good in dancing, but only few of them can impress you like SVT !!
FACTS
Plot twist: “SVT is only few of them”
Nct and Seventeen are really impressive when it comes to dancing
@@veronicachou8104 exactly, they are the only groups that really impressed me with their dancing
true!! ateez are amazing too
nobody:
cameraman: *aaah go stupid aaah go crazy*
Wanted to like your comment but there's 111 likes so...
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😂😂😂😂😔👌🏻
Brilliant 🤣🤣😭
Joshua's hair deserves an award for best backup dancer.
🤣🤣
backup dancer? you mean main dancer
(I had to, sorry)
Why
*is no one gonna mention how bright the room is tho*
carats wishes came true
truee
Yasss. It was the first thing i noticed. Like wow finally, they invested in a brighter lighting. I mean it is a waste to view these masterpieces in dim lights. I love dem moves but hard to appreciate it enough thru dat.
I think that's because Pledis didn't pay the bill so they had a black out and the video would just be total black thus they had no choice to film it at other place.
But then they also gave us freaking bouncy camera work, goddamnit lskdjsklsks
@@lianifire ahah it wasnt the cameraman who was behind the camera tho... remember svt, self-producing idols. they swung a piece of string on the camera
I am sorry but i cant ignore seungkwang.
He looked so hansome😭
Yeah he is so handsome 😍
i dont see any fruits in the video
You mean seungkwan😂
seungkwan sexy
omg sengkuang is a fruit tho 😂
Me:Camera stay still
Camera:⬆️↗️➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️↖️↕️↔️↩️↪️⤴️⤵️🔃🔄⬆️↗️
Min Carol I can relate 😂😂
For real fjxnznznz
My exact thought.. Like I just want to hold it still
it makes me dizzy
I am crying😭😭😂😂😂
It's 2024, Maestro just came out and Woozi still saying that Fear was so ahead of It's time.
Cameraman: How much camera movement do you want?
director: yes
Yaaas
Literally seasick right now blech T_T
Joshua's hair here called me ugly in 17 languages
Maryam Saif which one is Joshua please I trying to learn the members
Maryam Saif oh wait is he the one with the longish hair in the beginning?
@@_cherrychi_ yes!
@@_cherrychi_ 0:04 Wonwoo
0:21 Joshua
0:28 Jeonghan
0:34 Mingyu
0:40 Vernon
0:47 Woozi
0:54 The8 aka Minghao
1:01 Hoshi
1:09 DK
1:28 Dino - maknae
1:32 S.Coups - leader
1:41 Seungkwan
2:00 Jun
I'd recommend you to watch any 'unhelpful guides to seventeen' 😄😄
Maryam Saif Thanks!!
Okay but why is nobody talking about seungkwan??? I mean that hairstyle on him is just so hot!!!
Yesss. I thought he wasn't wearing make up here but still look awesome
FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED YEYEYE
That's basically his hairstyle for like.... Every year (?) 🙃, But yeah ur right tho , he is HOT 🤣
@@auliasyifa8949 omg right!! but having it "not styled" made it look so different JSKSKSKSKS
IKRRR
0:14 I feel like people don’t appreciate this move as much as it should be. It’s SOOOO subtle yet so damn powerful - why? The instrumental is going OFF and usually at that point we have moved away from the intro and going into a hard ass dance but n o p e they went super subtle by just lifting their right knee from the floor LIKE WHAT THE HECKKKK it’s too good pls
You are not the only one darling 😩💗. Me too i have been dying for it. Still can't move on from this era
Ikr I got chills I keep looping the part lol
That move's smooth af 🔥
THE OPENING GOES SO HARD!! I agree so much, i replayed it so much it's such a captivating move, and I love that this dance practice emphasizes special parts like this.
I WAS SEARCHING FOR THISSS COMMENT! I KEEPING COMING BACK JUST TO WATCH THIS STEP! AND IT'S WEIRDLY ATTRACTIVE IN THIS VIDEO! NO OTHER VIDEO EMPHASISES ON IT I GUESS!!! Sorry for the caps! That's how excited that one step gets me😭❤️
For new carats :
Jeonghan : main dancer
Joshua : main dancer
Hoshi: main dancer
Jun : main dancer
Dino : main dancer
The8 : main dancer
Vernon : main dancer
S.coups : main dancer
Mingyu : main dancer
Boo : main dancer
Woozi : main dancer
Woonwoo : main dancer
Dk : main dancer
Hope this helps
Have a good day!!
Tysm😊💕
facts
That helps me a lot, thanks! xd
I'll watch this 14 times. 1 for each member and 1 for Joshua's hair.
when josh’s hair is longer than jeonghan’s you know the future has truly passed
Seungkwan's visuals, vocals, dance. Everything about him is so fine. Mr. boo slayed this era
The fact that pledis is becoming richer and the dance prac shows it 😍😂😂
THY DGrace I’m dead so true 😂😂😂😂
Oof I hope Seventeen is getting their fair share of that money🤭
nicki15710 lets be honest, knowing pledis probably not😪
@@eeshasharma7804 That's why I said it :/ I don't hold much love for Pledis, I just want our boys to be fine😟🥺
The love carats have for Seventeen is 100%. We watched it even though we know it'll make us dizzy.
Mood
Is it just me who finds that they’re 100x more attractive and intimidating when they’re dancing in casual clothing?
🤯 True
yes! all boyfie material 🙈
Ikrr
BIG yes
ㅇㅈ!
00:01-00:33 I've replayed this part too many times. Still gives me goosebumps. Jeonghan in the middle is just!!!!
Pledis: we’re recording the fear choreo tomorrow, wear all black
Hoshi: wait, but I don’t own any black shirts-
Pledis: then wear anything look like black
Jeonghan: I don't have black pants :(
*then there is jeonghan with grey pants..* xD
XD and there minghao with a pink hat or what ever it was called
Hoshi is always standing out the most. The good to me Video he wore that bright yellow-pink highlighter jacket. How could you miss him? 😂😂
A lot of people get annoyed with the camera movements, am i the only one who appreciate it? u know it's harder to follow the movements since svt coreographies are never been easy.. moreover the cameramen really did justice to show how sharp the choreography is. Especially when hoshi's part came out it really cool tho
eza hikary
I appreciate this dance practice a lot too! 👏🏼😊💕
I thought that I was the only one when I saw comments about the camera movement...😓
As a dancer I can say there are so many dancing details(you may notice in their individual fancams) unshowed and that's why I'm disappointed. Dance practice should show the whole dance that's why it made for, but here it is just like another MV. Which is maybe good for SVTN stans, but those who wanted to see choreo(which is smash good) didn't have chance for it because of all unnecessary camera angle changes
I really love the camera angles. I honestly don't know why everyone is annoyed by it 🤷♀
My sister is a dancing channel (she covers) and I tried doing a moving camera shot (Snapping Cover) and it was hard to follow the movements so I think the camera movement is cool.
Who is Hoshi?
With other groups, it is obvious who the main dancer is and who's the one that struggles with dancing a little bit more than the others. But with Seventeen, unless you read their individual profiles you can't tell at all! All of them are on such a high level at everything, especially at dancing!
This is true
svt have no dance hole periodt
And there vocal are really underrated 😔
You make me flashback when jeonghan count the beats with his beautiful fingers in boom boom dance practice
Exactly! Usually you'd have the current singing/rapping members, being center, and then two of the best dancing members right besides them, but with Svt, that isn't the case, because they also think about who's going to sing next. And yes, you can't always tell who's the best, it's amazing!
I’m a multi stan, but seventeen are honestly the best dancers in kpop, idc what u say, their synchronization is just 100/10
I'm a multi stan and I can confirm u r right
main dancer: exists
seventeen: what is that
Stream mymy
@@SanaSana-hf3cw yess
Them
This is the best comment under this video
😂😂‼️
I hope there is another version of the video which as usual shows all angles and members :)
카메라 어떻게 된 일이야.. 집중 진심 1도
안됌.. 진짜 그냥 어지럽기만 한 느낌? ㅠㅠ
권순영 사랑해..
dk and seungkwan singing the high notes at the end is amazing. periodt
How does Joshua still find his position
He looks like he can barely see the floor lmao
Yeh Anna 🤣
omfg
Must have received idol training for that 💁🏻♀️
lmao 😂
Hanah Nguyen lmfao😂😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nah, you definitely can still see. You can't however if you purposely make it thick enough to cover everything (putting even the side fringes on the front)
jun with black t-shirt & ripped jeans. thank u very much.
svt: let's all wear black pants and not tell jeonghan
Tru
wEll he was white washed in the MV so i guess he wore them to stay with the style😂
This had me cackling
That comment is so predictable haha
@Private Martin nan molla 😂😂
so no one's gonna talk about how Seungkwan slayed at 1:40?????
EXACTLY HE ATE THAT UP IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL AS A SEUNGKWAN BIAS IT MADE ME SHAKE IN MY BOOTS
Todos arrazam👌🥰👍👏😍🇧🇷🇧🇷
yees!! that was my fave part in the whole dance practice
As a baby carat never knew he's so powerful in dancing too.
FR And he's lookin so fine too!
After listening to everything I could find where Seventeen talks about this song it became apparent to me that the reason for the camera movement in this is to mimic the effects of being intoxicated. It seems as though they want Carats to feel the way they do when poisoned by their fears. I personally think that this effect is genius and really connects us to them on an even deeper level. They are inviting us to see and feel the song and choreography from their perspective and that is so very special. I love them more and more every day because of things like this. You did well my loves!!!💗💙💗💙
That was beautiful and all but the cameraman should just stop
if u notice wonu at 2:04 you'll see onl him doing that small hand movement, that in my guess represents poison. i think thats cool.
Oh damn that's deep
Well, that's great, but for those of us who actually want to see the intricacies of the dance without feeling motion sick, it kinda sucks. :/
Wow
Seventeen literally exists as choreography lessons. Now, I don't know much about kpop, but I love watching Seventeen's choreography videos. The reason they're so nice to watch dance is not particularly just because the dance is impressive (which it IS), but because they understand the song is a singing/rapping performance first. Therefore, the choreography more or less centers around getting people in the right places at the right times and making switches clear.
Take 1:23 through 1:34, for example. We transition out of the last dance section into this one by literally walking through the previously set up formation, re-centering focus for this new thing. Then, they set up three layers of performers over each other, so that when it was time for one person to end and the next to begin, the previous group just walking, nothing fancy, just walking, and your eyes were already on the next people that were important.
But that was a formation they made and used over the course of twenty seconds; however, their planning ahead is INSANE. Baseball cap boyo over here has his position in the formation set by 0:14, right of pick hair mcgee. It isn't until 0:46, over 30 seconds later that this position pays off, allowing him to seamlessly take focus while going right instead of left. They thought about what needed to happen here to transition to viewer through one singer into the next, and focused one him being exactly where he needed to be at the beginning of the song to make that happen. I know there's a running joke of "I bet you didn't see them do this," especially if you're watching the art that is Pretty U, but it's true for a reason. At 1:00, everyone is dancing in one formation, completely in sync, no one off doing their own thing. Then, at 1:14, the dance separates to reveal four people that seemingly had no part of the previous dance. But they must have. To pull this off, the four were positioned off the back-sides of the triangle formation, so that when they broke off, the triangle just got slightly smaller. Point is, the formations are thought about meticulously so that the dance remains fluid while watching it.
Finally, let's take a look at how they use the center to carry meaning. Perhaps best shown at 1:50. This grimace-hair looking boy is established as our focal point pretty simply: he's standing, no one else is. Awesome, but they everyone needs to be standing when the next drop starts, so what do they do? They set the formation center to the left of where the singer is, still allowing you to see the singer perfectly while everyone standing; they make sure to only do small dance moves to not draw to much attention before the drop. Then, when the beat does drop, the dance becomes intense and expressive again, redrawing your focus 0.2 millimeters to the left, back to center, to the next line of focus. Which then runs through the same procedure as 1:23 - 1:34.
These videos are dance videos, sure, but the dance first-and-formost is concerned with maintaining clear communication for who is singing, and all of this information is seamlessly incorporated into the dance, so the song no longer exists apart from it. The two are linked. The dance won't make sense without the song, and the song makes less sense without the dance. I think part of why I find so much enjoyment in watching their choreography is because, as you can probably tell, I don't know anyone's names. Therefore, I have no bias that I'm particularly focused on, and I'm able to watch the song from a more-or-less outsider point of view, just focusing on whatever the heck my eyes follow. But jeez, their choreography is in a league of its own from anything I've ever seen. In summary, colorful hair bois bounce beautifully. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
P.S: Just an appreciation for 2:31, where they rotate on beat. The four steps match the hi-hats into the drop, which is just beautiful and I love it, and that must've been hard.
This is an amazing analysis, and I'm glad that you took the time to break it down for us.
No shade to other groups, but one reason that they're able to focus on the most optimal blocking (for the song parts) is that all the members are, to out it simply and obviously, really good at dancing, and not only that have a very similar foundational understanding of movement and rhythm that allows them especially to appear as they are moving as one body. Other groups often have one or two members who are not as natural at dancing (this is NORMAL and not to be ashamed of) but that presents an extra logistical challenge where choreographers have to constantly be aware of their positions in the formation and make sure not to block them in difficult combos, which results in limitations to creative expression. However with seventeen, you don't need to worry about it because you can expect that every member would be capable of doing even the most hardest moves. That's why you see main vocals, etc. doing the dance breaks (like in Hit) not because they're the best dancers and had to be there, but because it was convenient to put them there for the purposes of the song. Another reason is heavy member involvement in the choreography process. They often work with select professionals, but the final product (especially regarding formations I assume) lies heavily under their jurisdiction, and they are right for that because ultimately it's the members that know their strengths the most. Choi Youngjoon, who works with then the most, says that working with the performance unit is like working with another choreography team because they are that qualified and capable. I actually feel like groups who aren't able to have as much input aren't able to show more of themselves because their choreographers don't know their strengths enough.
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_Fake_ MU no one cares
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Wow. Thank you so much for this analysis. I feel like I understood the choreography in a whole other light now. And I really liked how you said at the end about how you just let your eyes follow what’s on the screen. Because I feel Seventeen really knows how to put someone under the spotlight as in centre, very effortlessly and without the viewers having to search. Whether the centre is at the centre, back or sides.
They know how to direct the viewers’ gaze so that even in a busy choreography like Adore U or Snap Shoot, you can still know who’s the one singing or rapping and because of that they were able to pull of the ‘wait-that-wasn’t-there-before’ moment like in Pretty U where they yeeted a whole sofa off the stage. This might have been obvious for some people but I kid you not, I didn’t notice at all that the sofa was gone when the pre-chorus with Seungkwan, the main vocal, happens. I could register the fact that there was a sofa before and no sofa after but I guess I was just too mesmerised by their performance that it doesn’t quite link up to me until the 5th or 6th performance of Pretty U that I’ve watched.
I noticed dinos wearing one black and one red shoe and now that’s all I can see. It keeps catching my eye.
Damn now I can't unsee it either
damn seventeen and unus annus? are you me???
Why did you do this to me I can't stop looking at it now 😭
I’m very late to comment but Seventeen are seriously theE best overall dancers in kpop group wise. There choreography is always novel, sharp, and CLEAN. This is why I love Seventeen. They never fail to amaze the crap outta me. Sincerely, a professional dancer
Pledis: how long would you let your hair grow?
Seventeen: *YES*
Carats: YESSS
xd
accurate asf
it should be just jeonghan-
That "long hair Jeonghan" memorie just appeared and crushed my heart 💔✨
me: *likes the video to support seventeen*
also me: *internally screaming at the camera work*
I wish it was fixed like LITERALLY EVERY OTHER DANCE PRACTICE
Pledis be rich now
@@rilka3632 *pledis be acting rich now lmao
SAME
Anyone notice Chan wearing one red and one black shoe
I like itttt
@@blessz6631 dino?
i thought it was so cute 🥺💀
@@lamanasad6335 yesss
i swear he's been wearing mismatched shoes ever since oh my era fgjasdhkl
i live for this part @ 2:06 just the way they all grooved together *chef kiss*
i need a loop of just that part 😩😩😩 and the way vernon did it too!!!
0:24 Joshua's hair flew😱
His hair caught my attention
0:24
I knew that DK was good dancer, but he seriously caught my attention here, this boy doesn't want me to live...
Especially on 1:50 and on
you should watch his fancams tho! i wonder why his dance caught my attention the most too but after thinking abt it.. his dance lines are amazing. idk much about the right term for it but he always give just the right amount of energy and flex to his dance moves
CAMERA WORK MAKES THIS CHOREO LOOK POWERFUL!!! THANK YOU SEVENTEEN, THANK YOU PLEDIS!!! ❤️
seventeeen has some of the best and hardest choreographies in all of kpop....also their choreographies are so good at telling stories and bringing out small details..its literally so cinematic and entertaining..and the way the boys dance is absolutley amazing they change their execution to fit the mood of each song like jeonghan here 0:28 was just so amazing...not anything cool but you can see how he was holding his arm tightly while bringing his hand up like u can see the tension.
I love how this dance practice was filmed!! Pledis be steppin up their game
김연희 i think this is not the dance practice vid. They always have a choreography vid.
I like it but I hope they will release a dance practice without camera work
Kae V ohhh but during 'Home' era, i remembered they only released one choreography video with a still camera work. I thought this was the same thing but with moving camera work lol
notsurewhyistan lets trust pledis to release one
I think the camera work was not good, they moved in and out way too much and detracts from the choreo
commenting this in left&right era, i still can’t move on from this era omg
Me too.. I could be a carat because hear this song..
Same
same
Me too
Same
this is really good cinematography but can we also get a fixed cam 😊
2:06 is still my favorite part of this dance. They looks so smooth and are serving them seductive facial expressions
omg that is also my favorite part of this choreo! i always replaying this part bcs it was so addictive to watch it!
The fact that the camera work and editing on this is better than some mv's is just-
I was keep looking for Jun, Hoshi & Woozi cause i freaking love their dancing, but it was hard this time.... i feel drunk....
Drunk from visual and talents *cough* camerawork *cough* *cough*
Kay stellar camera work aside, this CHOREO. a masterpiece 💗✨ the small, yet powerful wrist keypoint is so Sensual as the sharp kick that follows serves as it's *duality!* well the lingering wrist move afterwards is just as aesthetic. the hip sways & body rolls are gentle, but leave such an impact on the performance and the opening poses what looks to be reaching for an escape... artwork, all in itself. throw in the visuals of Vernon♡ himself, Jeonghan's androgynous beauty, Soonyoung channeling lethal Hoshi, Minghao looking divine, Jisoo's striking expressions, ALL of our stunning boys! more than anything, the generally heartfelt lyrics to this track and the artistry of the fears shown in it's MV-- what you're left with is nothing short of Hauntingly Spectacular 💐 even as a Carat, im floored! An Ode, in its entirety, is deserving of AWARDS!!!
Dean Nitza Elizabeth YES
fear is a masterpiece it was so ahead of its time
Let's talk about seungkwan 🤤 he is so handsome and so talented ..
Before watching seventeen
Me watching other groups: damn they synchronized as f
After watching seventeen
Me watching other groups: why aren’t they synchronized
Lol literally every carat 😂
@@smileflower1057 yeppp proud to be a carat
HAHHAHAHH YEEEEES
😂lol that's what I have been thinking after I became a carat. Really no other group seems more synchronized than SEVENTEEN now..they've taken my heart noww😍
So damn true
2019: the year seventeen didn’t get haircuts
What is it, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire movie?
Makes me wonder if my man Joshua can even see 😂
Except Seungcheol lol
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
S.coups: bruh
진짜 첫부분에 모든 동작들, 손올리는 거 부터 그냥 하나하나 다 소름이네요..... 특히 23초쯤 정말 소름,,, 어쩜 하나하나 이렇게 다 정교하고 소름돋는 표현들 동작들 춤선들 진짜 몇번을 돌려봐도 말로 다 표현못할 감탄밖에
안나옵니다,,, 진짜 아이돌중 실력은 대한민국최고같아요,,,,ㅠㅠ 멋있습니다...
not saying i’ll hurt someone if they cut joshua’s hair, but that’s exactly what i’m saying
I will go with you
Same
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MOOD
svt: wearing dark clothes to match the song, serious facials
me: cute!
^^
^^^
ikr so cute
Guys. Joshua's hair is honestly LOLOLOL amazing.
How can he see and I didn't realize it was styled so much for promos.
Great to see everyone
also the day that award shows actually recognize who truly delivers the best dance performances instead of basing it on charts is the day the kpop industry finds true peace
just came here to appreciate mah boi seungkwan i mean lOOK AT HIM HE'S SO TALENTED SHSJSHJS WE STAN A BEAUTIFUL AND TALENTED MAN
This dance choreography video is high quality. Im amazed😭😭😭😭
I appreciate how pledis improve the camera work but tbh i prefer the camera stand still for the dance practice :( so we can see the detail more
I agree... It's only for the dance practice.. You can see the mv for the Best one.
Agree. We have so many live performances of them which are zooming in and out like this. I also want a choreo video where i can see everything and everyone.
I think there's a difference between dance practice and choreography video. They didn't drop the dance practice one yet
@@dhiyaanasywa2556 but if im not mistaken they name it choreography video since boom boom era, for part switch etc they name it special video. but before boom boom era they name it dance practice tho
@@bernadetcahyaningtyas6845 ah yes sorry and thank you for correcting my mistake.
okay but seventeen is a group that is always consistently in sync/close to perfection with each other- you can tell they really take the time to practice details with each movie,, anyways this low angle filming is EVERYTHING
For my perspective I like the steady camera as you will see their synchronisation and all their movements but overall I like the video! 💕
im sorry i really have to say this here
EVERYONE STR34M THE MV PLEASE,
thank you
came down here to comment about wanting to pet Joshua's hair so bad but I see that his hair already caught everyone's attention o3o
so in conclusion, he looks floofy af
I love his hair so much ❤❤❤🥰🥰
I KNOW, I just wanna run my hands thru it so bad. It looks so healthy despite the fact it's been dyed many times. Those hairstylists are nurturing tf outta their hair. 😭👌
VERNON WAS FEELING HIMSELF YES BOY DANCE
Ok I'm still not over this. This choreography drives me insane, especially after the last chorus to the end. I get so hype every time the chorus comes on and I have to rewind it to watch the move over and over again. How can they be this talented CONSISTENTLY???
2:47 His high note is really something else it's so dramatic and i LOVE it killing me every time
This isn't even related to the dance but Seungkwan's ad libs in the last chorus DEVASTATED me
absolutely!! Seungkwan has always been a strong vocal but he peaked during this era BIG time.
@@samiahsmith583 I KNOW ugh I love him
No no no...
Joshua really have beautiful soft hair, Just like Mingyu said, when he do hairstyle for the member in predebut...
I've been a carat for 5 years now and I genuinely haven't been able to ever comprehend how they are all such phenomenal dancers who are always in sync and create intensely beautiful choreo everytime
I think they testing their new camera for this😂
Is it just me or is majority of them growing out their hair?
*IF SO I'M LIVING FOR JEONGHAN'S LONG HAIR BACK*
Wonwoo at the beginning will always be an iconic intro ✧
the way that everyone has the potential to be at least lead dancer
seungkwan popped off and ur lying if u think otherwise
factss 😳🖐
Can’t deny the truth
it’s officially appreciating seungkwan hours, do it
YAAAAAS MY BABIE BOO
Everyone dances so beautifully, but my eyes are locked on Dino. Hehe the kid's grace is no joke.
Seungkwan really be snatching wigs
2:29
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHY WAS THIS ADDED TO THE CHOREO???!?!?!
CARATS ARE DYYYIINNNNNNN
101 Studio 😭😭its my favorite part!!! I live for this dance choreography
@@YsabellaDaisy 😏
Looks like they could afford their light bill this time.
This comment got me dying from laughter😂😂😂
damn..............so fucking true
Context?
Sean Fries it’s a kind of inside Carat joke
I’m so happy with all the like on my comment hehehhe is this what it feels like to be comment famous.
VERNON’s outfit owned my brain!!! Also this style suits him SO MUCH !!!!
Honestly, watching this has just become a daily routine for me. There's just something about svt in casual clothes that make them so attractive...
Okay what happened to Pledis?!
-Dance practice with proper lighting
-English subs for Going Seventeen
Wow!
Now that you mentioned that I'm curious what's going on with Pledis
Did they get some new management lol i only knew shit pledis
after going seventeen w/ full eng subs now theyre giving me this amazingly smooth camera work whoa i started to love pledis :)
Where did you watch it with eng subs? It’s not subbed yet on vlive😟
@@ChiChi-sb4ys It's on their youtube channel!!
Me too. Lol
Nobody:
The cameraman: let’s make sure you only see 1 or 2 members at the time instead of all of them
I don't like it, I can't see Jun clearly since he has the most least lines..
No screen time in mv and now, even in dance practice.. I can't 💔
@@regineimaysay2627 least* not most less lol
there’s no one behind the camera tho.
remember, svt the self producing idols? they attached a string to the camera and the celling to swing back and forth
naega hosh
how does the camere go up and down?and make close ups without ‘swinging back’? How does the camera tilt?
Bro it’s is clearly not swinging back and forth on a string
@@mmyyoonn i agree😂😂
seungkwan looks so good in this video 🧎♀️
SEVENTEEN's choreography has always been captivating on its own. The formation, the subtle yet meaningful details in their moves, the way each member's part is highlighted and of course their signature synchronization, put all these together and you'll find it's never enough to truly appreciate their work of art. Personally, I think a simple choreography video is enough because we can get to see the full picture of the dance with all member. There is no need for flashy camera work and the constant camera movements just makes it more distracting. But after all, I understand that they're working hard to show us their best. So, "Thank you SEVENTEEN for giving us this fascinating song and dance. You've worked hard and we appreciate that!"
MAMA 2019 Best Male Performance of the Year for the 3rd Time confirmed!!
Is it really confirmed????
@@DineshYadav-le7nj no its a joke you moron
Best male group
Hi pledis, how many views do we need for the still camera version? Pleaaaseee pretty pleaseee 😅
Hahha.... Say it louder dude/girls...😉
LOUDER!!!!!
Same
Agree!! I get so dizzy while watching this version 😖😖😖
@@Seconds-wp6cj same
It's like we road in rollercoaster 😂
This video is the literal proof of why SEVENTEEN ARE THE BEST PERFORMERS IN KPOP HISTORY
Why does it looks like they filming an MV?!
Yeah when I saw this my first thought is this a mv
It just the charismatic in their self
ok they heard us complaining about dimming the lights every choreography video, so now they slapped us with this cinematic masterpiece
lmao ikr
seungkwan in this dance really got me focused on him, he's become such a great dancer
also, he looks really good in black
Bro this is one of the best song I've ever listened to AND THE CHOREO!?? Seventeen is just so amazing
and this isnt even their highest level technical-wise!! check out the choreo's for getting closer, 24h, fallin' flower, home;run, THANKS, Don't Wanna Cry, CLAP, and Rock With You to name a few of my favorites. you will be BLOWN AWAY.
@@peytonsharp6159 YES!! They never disappoint, really.