It’s my first year with climbing sticks and hanging stand. I thought I thought about everything but totally have zero plan on how to get around branches. Glad I watched this video. I think i’ll be getting another lineman’s rope so I can have two whole climbing!
Thanks. I'm really glad it helped you. I'm still working on getting one of my hunting buddies to even wear a harness in the first place. Thinks he's immune to falling I guess.
Oh and I used many or your mods on my equipment (tweak a little). Very good ideas. the knee on seat and foot lift of the platform works great! Great job on the videos
pretty good idea.. i use the HSS lifelines. I tie one end to my belt loop on my jeans and the other end has the karabiner attached to my stand, i put the first 2 (of 4) ladder sticksections on the tree and then tie one of them to a hoist rope and the other i carry up, when i get all of them on i pull my stand up get it attached and then put the lifeline around the tree above my stand and attach to it, then detach my linemans belt.and climb in the stand
Sounds like a good working system. The only thing I'd be a little leery of is hooking on to the belt loop of your jeans. I'm not sure the threads that attach that loop to your jeans would hold up to the shock of a fall.
From one MN deer hunter to another ... Thank you very much for the video, I'm use to ground hunting (slug gun) and am going to be trying hanging stand this year, thank you for the great ideas, I know I like the idea of being safe, and so does my 2.5 year old daughter. :-) Do you have any suggestions on what hang on stand would be good for a first timer? Looking at an Ol' Man or a Lone Wolf ... but both are a bit on the expensive side for trying out to see if I like this type of hunting.
Hey Garret awesome idea with the lone wolf mini sticks an the double loops could you give me an idea how high you can get with the double loop and three mini sticks thank you
I may do that in the future. In the meantime, though, it's simply the exact same process in reverse. While attached, climb out onto the first stick from your stand. Then hook up the 2nd linemans belt and detach the first one. Remove the stand and put it on your back, or gently toss it into a small sapling for a controlled drop to save time. Then climb down, always staying attached with at least one of the lineman's belts around the tree. Usually I'll drop the sticks and pack them on the ground
could you possibly make a video on setting up the big game quick stick XL? I'm thinking about getting this just because it looks a little safer and if I get it I would replace the cam buckle straps with ratchet straps.
Thanks Scot! One of my buddies really likes his Gorilla Kong stand. Less than $100 bucks but at little heavier at 15lb. Their Silverback Scout HX lists for $130 on their website and is just 10.5lb. Kind of like the less expensive version of a Lone Wolf Assault. That's the one I think I would go with if I wanted another mobile stand.
Will the lineman rope keep you from hitting the ground if something were to happen? Or should you use a tether on the way up also? I’d appreciate your feedback.
Using a tether in conjunction with the linemans rope is going to be the safest. From an ease of use standpoint, I typically use just the lineman's to climb and attach the tether before stepping onto the platform. If you fell with just the lineman's the most likely scenario is that you'll stop before hitting the ground, but will likely still suffer a bit of damage from catching on the sticks, etc. One of the main goals with the linemans is to keep positioned properly so you're less likely to fall in the first place.
DIY Sportsman gotcha and I’m saying if like your stick strap broke or something and it’s a limbless tree would the lineman rope prevent you from hitting the ground
It may or may not. Depends on the tree size, shape, and bark. But very likely you'll catch on the stick below you, whether its the rope or your ribs. Or, the friction of the rope could catch. Tether plus lineman's is no doubt safer, but just takes longer.
Thanks for the video! Since shooting this have you found a way to streamline this process any better yet? I feel like it's a lot of rope to have draped around me and undoing and redoing the girth hitches on the linesman loops put me off a little. I know safety can sometimes be a tradoff with convenience but I'm trying to do my best to get the best of both worlds.
Alekart Right now I have my lineman's belt attached via carabiner (so carabiners on each side). I also use a Ropeman II ascender on it which makes it much easier to use and adjust.
Just my .02 but are u able to climb that easily in ur hunting gear? You sure make it look easier than it is in tennis shoes and jeans, albeit ur a heck of a lot younger as well lol, but I find it’s a helluva lot harder to climb with layers on and pants and coat as well as boots
Looks like this would be very safe but what would you do AFTER you fall? How do you get to the ground? I am assuming you are going to be too far down the tree to get back to your tree stand. And too high to just cut the rope and hope. Seems to me you would be in a pickle! What I would want to know is how to recover from a fall that leaves you hanging and unable to reach safety. With climbing gear they stress having a way to belay to the ground. Doesn't seem you have one and that makes it inadequate? And most of the hunting from tree stand videos share this problem from what I am seeing. Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Hi Terry, if you were to slip and be caught my the harness you would be able to turn and use the climbing sticks to either get back in the stand or climb down to the ground. Usually I like to set my tether height so that it has a minimal amount of slack to be able to sit down and maybe lean forward a little bit before it feels tight. That way the length of fall and resulting impact is also minimized.
@@DIYSportsman Actually I am looking for a safer way to get up the tree based on rock climbing principles. My son is a climbing instructor and we are going to try to find a safer but light way to get into the tree and then he lay back to the ground No climbing sticks needed.
+MasterGhilieman With the black rope, I just put the free end through the loop and pulled it tight, then slid the prusik knot up to the loop to keep it held in place.
Awesome videos man, learned a lot from them. Only question is, I noticed you only used the climbing rope as an anchor when you sit in the stand. how do you normally tie your rope (certain knot you recommend?)? Still new to all of this.
+Chris Hicks Both of the ropes in this video were stock lineman's belts from Lone Wolf and Summit. If you watch my new video "Climb a Tree with ONE CLIMBING STICK" that goes into more details on knots and carabiners.
Mine did not come with a second strap. Lone Wolf implemented that feature a couple years later. If you use only the top strap, using the knee trick will get it solid, but if you use two straps, you wouldn't do the knee trick. Rumor has it that they added the second strap to make outfitters' clients happy because it make them feel safer.
+DIY Sportsman thanks for the response. I found the knee trick locks the stand on as well as having the strap. I may just go with this and take the second strap off to keep it simple.
+Matthew Anderson Are you referring to the rope for the lineman's belts? The webbing here is 1" mil-spec tubular webbing. And while the lineman's belts in this video were purchased, I've since made lineman's belts from 7/16" Bluewater Assault line (static) climbing rope. You can see the details on my recent "One stick climbing method" video. That stuff is rated for 7,420 lbs.
Hey Dudeman...i wanna bring my 9 year-old into my new 2 person treestand for deer this year...is there any prob using a regular harness for him or is there some other recommendation for little peeps?? thanks a million!
In this video, I used the Canon Vixia HF S100 and edited with Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. In my more recent videos, I used mainly a Sony NEX-5R. And now I just purchased a Sony FDR-AX100 but don't have any videos with it yet.
annoying as it is... you should also be switching back to the lineman's before adjusting the height of your tether after you get in the stand so you always have a good connection
What do you think about using two continuous Loops made out of amsteel rather than the two webbing loops? This video kind of freaked me out about the idea of the webbing loops: ruclips.net/video/mXe-8GmS08k/видео.html
I think it's really great that you listened to peoples' comments and revised your technique then made this follow up video.
It’s my first year with climbing sticks and hanging stand. I thought I thought about everything but totally have zero plan on how to get around branches. Glad I watched this video. I think i’ll be getting another lineman’s rope so I can have two whole climbing!
I'm new to tree stands. Thanks for this safety video. Would like to see you take the stand out of the tree safely with video and narration.
You should always step down onto your platform. I don't know if anyone mentioned it. Love your videos.
Great tip, when saddle hunting I use my thither line as a 2nd lineman's belt to cross limbs or climb in the stand and stay connected.
Thanks. I'm really glad it helped you. I'm still working on getting one of my hunting buddies to even wear a harness in the first place. Thinks he's immune to falling I guess.
Oh and I used many or your mods on my equipment (tweak a little). Very good ideas. the knee on seat and foot lift of the platform works great! Great job on the videos
That little knee trick is pretty cool!
pretty good idea.. i use the HSS lifelines. I tie one end to my belt loop on my jeans and the other end has the karabiner attached to my stand, i put the first 2 (of 4) ladder sticksections on the tree and then tie one of them to a hoist rope and the other i carry up, when i get all of them on i pull my stand up get it attached and then put the lifeline around the tree above my stand and attach to it, then detach my linemans belt.and climb in the stand
Sounds like a good working system. The only thing I'd be a little leery of is hooking on to the belt loop of your jeans. I'm not sure the threads that attach that loop to your jeans would hold up to the shock of a fall.
From one MN deer hunter to another ... Thank you very much for the video, I'm use to ground hunting (slug gun) and am going to be trying hanging stand this year, thank you for the great ideas, I know I like the idea of being safe, and so does my 2.5 year old daughter. :-)
Do you have any suggestions on what hang on stand would be good for a first timer? Looking at an Ol' Man or a Lone Wolf ... but both are a bit on the expensive side for trying out to see if I like this type of hunting.
Hey Garret awesome idea with the lone wolf mini sticks an the double loops could you give me an idea how high you can get with the double loop and three mini sticks thank you
I may do that in the future. In the meantime, though, it's simply the exact same process in reverse. While attached, climb out onto the first stick from your stand. Then hook up the 2nd linemans belt and detach the first one. Remove the stand and put it on your back, or gently toss it into a small sapling for a controlled drop to save time. Then climb down, always staying attached with at least one of the lineman's belts around the tree. Usually I'll drop the sticks and pack them on the ground
could you possibly make a video on setting up the big game quick stick XL? I'm thinking about getting this just because it looks a little safer and if I get it I would replace the cam buckle straps with ratchet straps.
Thanks Scot! One of my buddies really likes his Gorilla Kong stand. Less than $100 bucks but at little heavier at 15lb. Their Silverback Scout HX lists for $130 on their website and is just 10.5lb. Kind of like the less expensive version of a Lone Wolf Assault. That's the one I think I would go with if I wanted another mobile stand.
I have found it to be much safer stepping DOWN onto the platform rather than up onto it . A whole lot less kick out. Hunt safely, my Friends!
Will the lineman rope keep you from hitting the ground if something were to happen? Or should you use a tether on the way up also? I’d appreciate your feedback.
Using a tether in conjunction with the linemans rope is going to be the safest. From an ease of use standpoint, I typically use just the lineman's to climb and attach the tether before stepping onto the platform. If you fell with just the lineman's the most likely scenario is that you'll stop before hitting the ground, but will likely still suffer a bit of damage from catching on the sticks, etc. One of the main goals with the linemans is to keep positioned properly so you're less likely to fall in the first place.
DIY Sportsman gotcha and I’m saying if like your stick strap broke or something and it’s a limbless tree would the lineman rope prevent you from hitting the ground
Sorry I just heard some scary story’s and wanna make sure the lineman rope will prevent me from getting crippled
It may or may not. Depends on the tree size, shape, and bark. But very likely you'll catch on the stick below you, whether its the rope or your ribs. Or, the friction of the rope could catch. Tether plus lineman's is no doubt safer, but just takes longer.
DIY Sportsman I’m just torn on what to do cause the lineman rope is faster but I don’t want to get killed or badly hurt
Thanks for the video! Since shooting this have you found a way to streamline this process any better yet? I feel like it's a lot of rope to have draped around me and undoing and redoing the girth hitches on the linesman loops put me off a little. I know safety can sometimes be a tradoff with convenience but I'm trying to do my best to get the best of both worlds.
Alekart Right now I have my lineman's belt attached via carabiner (so carabiners on each side). I also use a Ropeman II ascender on it which makes it much easier to use and adjust.
@@DIYSportsman Do have trouble with the Ropeman 2 chewing up the rope?
This was from a couple days ago, huh? Still applies. -Love from NH
What safety harnesses are you wearing in this video? Thanks
It was the freebie Lone Wolf harness.
You have a good channel and videos,best of luck from NZ boys.
Just my .02 but are u able to climb that easily in ur hunting gear? You sure make it look easier than it is in tennis shoes and jeans, albeit ur a heck of a lot younger as well lol, but I find it’s a helluva lot harder to climb with layers on and pants and coat as well as boots
Looks like this would be very safe but what would you do AFTER you fall?
How do you get to the ground? I am assuming you are going to be too far
down the tree to get back to your tree stand. And too high to just cut
the rope and hope. Seems to me you would be in a pickle! What I
would want to know is how to recover from a fall that leaves you hanging
and unable to reach safety. With climbing gear they stress having a
way to belay to the ground. Doesn't seem you have one and that makes it
inadequate? And most of the hunting from tree stand videos share this
problem from what I am seeing. Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Hi Terry, if you were to slip and be caught my the harness you would be able to turn and use the climbing sticks to either get back in the stand or climb down to the ground. Usually I like to set my tether height so that it has a minimal amount of slack to be able to sit down and maybe lean forward a little bit before it feels tight. That way the length of fall and resulting impact is also minimized.
@@DIYSportsman Actually I am looking for a safer way to get up the tree based on rock climbing principles. My son is a climbing instructor and we are going to try to find a safer but light way to get into the tree and then he lay back to the ground
No climbing sticks needed.
What knot did you use in attaching the last time to the tree before you got into the stand? There seemed to be a jump cut there and I missed it.
+MasterGhilieman With the black rope, I just put the free end through the loop and pulled it tight, then slid the prusik knot up to the loop to keep it held in place.
Perfect, thanks man. Approximately how long did you make each of your linesman ropes?
Awesome videos man, learned a lot from them. Only question is, I noticed you only used the climbing rope as an anchor when you sit in the stand. how do you normally tie your rope (certain knot you recommend?)? Still new to all of this.
+Chris Hicks Both of the ropes in this video were stock lineman's belts from Lone Wolf and Summit. If you watch my new video "Climb a Tree with ONE CLIMBING STICK" that goes into more details on knots and carabiners.
Hi, I noticed you don't use the second strap (lower) that comes with the Assault. I have the same stand and was wondering the reason why?
Mine did not come with a second strap. Lone Wolf implemented that feature a couple years later. If you use only the top strap, using the knee trick will get it solid, but if you use two straps, you wouldn't do the knee trick. Rumor has it that they added the second strap to make outfitters' clients happy because it make them feel safer.
+DIY Sportsman thanks for the response. I found the knee trick locks the stand on as well as having the strap. I may just go with this and take the second strap off to keep it simple.
Thanks for the info, I will go check them out. great video if I forgot to tell you that before.
What kind of rope would you recommend for making these? What poundage rating are you using?
+Matthew Anderson Are you referring to the rope for the lineman's belts? The webbing here is 1" mil-spec tubular webbing. And while the lineman's belts in this video were purchased, I've since made lineman's belts from 7/16" Bluewater Assault line (static) climbing rope. You can see the details on my recent "One stick climbing method" video. That stuff is rated for 7,420 lbs.
Hey Dudeman...i wanna bring my 9 year-old into my new 2 person treestand for deer this year...is there any prob using a regular harness for him or is there some other recommendation for little peeps?? thanks a million!
They have youth safety harnesses available that are designed for young people so they fit much better.
Seriously great helpful videos.
Love your Videos! BTW, what camera, mic, and editing software are you using? Very professional looking.
In this video, I used the Canon Vixia HF S100 and edited with Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. In my more recent videos, I used mainly a Sony NEX-5R. And now I just purchased a Sony FDR-AX100 but don't have any videos with it yet.
Thanks!
annoying as it is... you should also be switching back to the lineman's before adjusting the height of your tether after you get in the stand so you always have a good connection
What do you think about using two continuous Loops made out of amsteel rather than the two webbing loops?
This video kind of freaked me out about the idea of the webbing loops: ruclips.net/video/mXe-8GmS08k/видео.html
Much better ....Still need to address the stand on the back and make mention of a small grappling hook you carry in your pocket all all times.