I love your channel. I sure don't have a fleet of Rams, so my experience is limited compared to yours, but here is my experience with intervals of oil changes. I bought my 2017 Cummins Ram 3500 new. For half the year it is my daily driver in Canada, and is unloaded. For the other 6 months I am hauling my RV to Arizona and back, and everywhere I go all winter has the RV attached. The weight of the RV was originally 15,000 lbs with a big fifth wheel, and it is now just 6500 lbs with a cargo trailer to RV conversion. So the truck runs every drive loaded for 6 months of the year, and unloaded for the other 6 months. I had my oil analyzed by Blackstone Labs at 75,000 miles and again at 90,000 miles. Blackstone has a huge data base for the Cummins, and knows every metal in the engine, and where it is located (bearing, piston, etc). So they have a "normal" baseline for the wear metals, and how much of them should be found in your oil sample. When your oil is sampled and the results emailed to you, there is a column of your wear metals and right beside that is a column with what is "normal" according to their extensive data base for the Cummins. If you get more than one sample later on, the report will show both the wear metals found in the present sample, and also all previous samples for that particular engine. As well as the "normal" wear. So you can easily compare your sample to not only the "norm" for the Cummins 6.7, but also to your previous samples. If they see that a particular metal is starting to appear in your oil samples at a higher than normal level, they will advise you of it, and tell you exactly where in the engine that metal is coming from. This lets you head off minor problems before they become major ones. The analysis will also show fuel in the oil, indicating how much is getting past the rings, and if it is an issue. Some fuel in the oil is normal. It will find any antifreeze in the oil, possibly indicating a leaking head gasket. For another $10 they will test the oil for additives remaining. This is apparently an excellent indication fo how much life is left in the oil. Total price for the oil analysis including this additive testing was under $40. Now here is what this whole long post is all about. My oil was always changed using full synthetic at 15,000 miles at the Ram dealers, along with the fuel and oil filters. Blackstone Labs sent me the additve (TBN) level of my samples, and recommended that I go another 2000 miles between oil changes - to 17,000 miles! I can then retest and see how much additives are left in the oil. Since I have to change the fuel filters and oil filter at 15,000 miles anyway, I will not try to go over that with oil changes either. I don't know how much more authoritative of a source can be found that can tell us in precise numbers what is the condition of our oil than Blackstone Labs. They also have an article on their website that says that brands of oil hardly matter if they meet the specs. Blackstone Labs is one of the biggest, if not the biggest oil analysis company in the US, and mostly work for companies with big fleets. I now have 126,000 miles on the Ram and it purrs. Or growls, depending on how hard it is working. Oh and I use Diesel Kleen in every tank of fuel. Cummins actually recommends it. From what I understand, one thing it does is boost the centane of the fuel, and this apparently means less soot. Less soot should mean both cleaner oil, and less soot for the DPF to have to deal with.
Not unless you have an older Toyota. My dad's 92 toyota just need oil re-fill without changing oil and filter since day 1 and it is now at 300k plus miles.
The difference in oils and fuel treatments like Amsoil, Archoil, and Schaefer’s makes a huge difference with these diesels. Bill Hewitt, RIP, said he had fleet vehicles that been running Archoil in their fuel from day 1 and they are on all of their ORIGINAL emissions equipment at 300k.
I don’t tow often or heavy nor do I put the miles on. The dealer says annually if not putting miles on. I’ve researched this topic many times. I use hotshots and dieselkleen together for fuel treatments every tank. Had all recalls and updates done- 19’ 2500 Cummins. 5w40 with oem filters all around. Only upgrade is pedal commander for now. Next is banks grid heater big ram pkge. Thanks
I need a truck before a trailer? How can 2 additives hurt? Opinions dont mean anything unless you can site it please? Plus I got a better deal on 3/4 over 1/2 by 20k so had no choice on new purchase.
@@elgroucho7563 , diluting two products with one another = you not getting benefits of either one. It’s like mixing apple juice with orange juice, and saying I don’t see any problems with that, works great for me
I'm using Schaeffer's 2000 additive based solely on your recommendation. Which is another way of saying ...... You Advice is worth $100,000 !! The cost of my One Ton !! :)
PD Power Diesel in your 2019-2022 RAM what range of oil interval what grade 10w30 did you do 10k or less interval? And did any of your fleet 2019-2022 have oil dilution that increase the oil dipstick?
Idk, i hotshot; am mechanically inclined. I run walmart 15w40 and Motorcraft filters. Change every 5k miles and the truck is happy, re gen is minimal and DPF is allows are 0%
Intervals may be more important than the brand, but they are NOT more important than the type. There have been several studies on this, first to come to mind was done by Shell on NYC Taxis. They ran both for 110k miles, one with 3k intervals with conventional, the other at 6k intervals with synthetic. Keep in mind this is in NYC traffic, so a lot of hours relative to the distance. The synthetic car with half the oil changes had a much cleaner engine with less wear when the teardown was done. Is there a big difference between quality synthetics? No. Is it smarter to pay more for a good synthetic and change it less vs buying cheaper conventional brands and changing it more frequently? Definitely.
How do I move my rpm gauge to the top and replace the left side of the screen with other info? I’ve seen your screen setup like that several times and have yet to figure out how to do it on my 23.
@@elgroucho7563 how can you prove that mixing apple juice and orange juice dilutes each other? You are mixing two different brands of additives it’s like two different juices.
Hey, related to oil and Rams, what do you think about this video (JBReviews) regarding the lifter failures? ruclips.net/video/vgnj_sEE8Io/видео.html This tech suggested that 15w40 should still be used with shorter intervals.
I love your channel. I sure don't have a fleet of Rams, so my experience is limited compared to yours, but here is my experience with intervals of oil changes.
I bought my 2017 Cummins Ram 3500 new. For half the year it is my daily driver in Canada, and is unloaded. For the other 6 months I am hauling my RV to Arizona and back, and everywhere I go all winter has the RV attached. The weight of the RV was originally 15,000 lbs with a big fifth wheel, and it is now just 6500 lbs with a cargo trailer to RV conversion. So the truck runs every drive loaded for 6 months of the year, and unloaded for the other 6 months.
I had my oil analyzed by Blackstone Labs at 75,000 miles and again at 90,000 miles. Blackstone has a huge data base for the Cummins, and knows every metal in the engine, and where it is located (bearing, piston, etc). So they have a "normal" baseline for the wear metals, and how much of them should be found in your oil sample. When your oil is sampled and the results emailed to you, there is a column of your wear metals and right beside that is a column with what is "normal" according to their extensive data base for the Cummins. If you get more than one sample later on, the report will show both the wear metals found in the present sample, and also all previous samples for that particular engine. As well as the "normal" wear. So you can easily compare your sample to not only the "norm" for the Cummins 6.7, but also to your previous samples. If they see that a particular metal is starting to appear in your oil samples at a higher than normal level, they will advise you of it, and tell you exactly where in the engine that metal is coming from. This lets you head off minor problems before they become major ones. The analysis will also show fuel in the oil, indicating how much is getting past the rings, and if it is an issue. Some fuel in the oil is normal. It will find any antifreeze in the oil, possibly indicating a leaking head gasket.
For another $10 they will test the oil for additives remaining. This is apparently an excellent indication fo how much life is left in the oil. Total price for the oil analysis including this additive testing was under $40.
Now here is what this whole long post is all about. My oil was always changed using full synthetic at 15,000 miles at the Ram dealers, along with the fuel and oil filters. Blackstone Labs sent me the additve (TBN) level of my samples, and recommended that I go another 2000 miles between oil changes - to 17,000 miles! I can then retest and see how much additives are left in the oil.
Since I have to change the fuel filters and oil filter at 15,000 miles anyway, I will not try to go over that with oil changes either.
I don't know how much more authoritative of a source can be found that can tell us in precise numbers what is the condition of our oil than Blackstone Labs. They also have an article on their website that says that brands of oil hardly matter if they meet the specs. Blackstone Labs is one of the biggest, if not the biggest oil analysis company in the US, and mostly work for companies with big fleets.
I now have 126,000 miles on the Ram and it purrs. Or growls, depending on how hard it is working.
Oh and I use Diesel Kleen in every tank of fuel. Cummins actually recommends it. From what I understand, one thing it does is boost the centane of the fuel, and this apparently means less soot. Less soot should mean both cleaner oil, and less soot for the DPF to have to deal with.
In the words of Dave from Dave’s auto center says, “change your dang oil!”
Not unless you have an older Toyota. My dad's 92 toyota just need oil re-fill without changing oil and filter since day 1 and it is now at 300k plus miles.
The difference in oils and fuel treatments like Amsoil, Archoil, and Schaefer’s makes a huge difference with these diesels. Bill Hewitt, RIP, said he had fleet vehicles that been running Archoil in their fuel from day 1 and they are on all of their ORIGINAL emissions equipment at 300k.
Most likely for the 7.3L International engine that made ford popular due to its longevity. For 6.4L and 6.0L, not really.
I love Amsoil!
I don’t tow often or heavy nor do I put the miles on. The dealer says annually if not putting miles on. I’ve researched this topic many times. I use hotshots and dieselkleen together for fuel treatments every tank. Had all recalls and updates done- 19’ 2500 Cummins. 5w40 with oem filters all around. Only upgrade is pedal commander for now. Next is banks grid heater big ram pkge. Thanks
Mixing two fuel additives together is bad idea, you not getting benefits from either one
I need a truck before a trailer? How can 2 additives hurt? Opinions dont mean anything unless you can site it please? Plus I got a better deal on 3/4 over 1/2 by 20k so had no choice on new purchase.
@@elgroucho7563 , diluting two products with one another = you not getting benefits of either one. It’s like mixing apple juice with orange juice, and saying I don’t see any problems with that, works great for me
Diesels are best used towing heavy and running hard. That's not me or you. So I have a gasser. You should to.
@@seagullsbtn diesel can be used for towing heavy or not. It comes down to personal preference how they wan to use diesel.
I love this channel.....we all are patiently waiting to see if you change your entire fleet over to Fords.
He's not
People have to keep buying new ones for a reason.
@@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel right because nobody had bought a new truck before now
@@wizard_of_poz4413 the new rams are junk . My current f350 w 418k miles still hotshotting daily
@@joebrings5817 nobody asked. And our rams have been just fine
I'm using Schaeffer's 2000 additive based solely on your recommendation. Which is another way of saying ...... You Advice is worth $100,000 !! The cost of my One Ton !! :)
PD Power Diesel in your 2019-2022 RAM what range of oil interval what grade 10w30 did you do 10k or less interval? And did any of your fleet 2019-2022 have oil dilution that increase the oil dipstick?
Also, change new engine oil at 500 to 1K miles to get rid of metal shavings from construction.
Idk, i hotshot; am mechanically inclined. I run walmart 15w40 and Motorcraft filters. Change every 5k miles and the truck is happy, re gen is minimal and DPF is allows are 0%
Are you in the southwest
I saw a great video on frozen oil tests and Rotella seemed to win. At $16 a gallon I can justify every 5000 miles
you mentioned talking about how to get the most out of the engine brakes on these trucks. Is that still happening?
Is your truck a long bed?
Crew cab and long bed
Intervals may be more important than the brand, but they are NOT more important than the type. There have been several studies on this, first to come to mind was done by Shell on NYC Taxis. They ran both for 110k miles, one with 3k intervals with conventional, the other at 6k intervals with synthetic. Keep in mind this is in NYC traffic, so a lot of hours relative to the distance. The synthetic car with half the oil changes had a much cleaner engine with less wear when the teardown was done. Is there a big difference between quality synthetics? No. Is it smarter to pay more for a good synthetic and change it less vs buying cheaper conventional brands and changing it more frequently? Definitely.
Interesting.
How do I move my rpm gauge to the top and replace the left side of the screen with other info? I’ve seen your screen setup like that several times and have yet to figure out how to do it on my 23.
What wheels are those?
How can you prove that using dieselkleen and hotshots dilute each other out? If I refuel car with 85 and 91 they don’t cancel each other out
@@elgroucho7563 how can you prove that mixing apple juice and orange juice dilutes each other? You are mixing two different brands of additives it’s like two different juices.
Hey, related to oil and Rams, what do you think about this video (JBReviews) regarding the lifter failures?
ruclips.net/video/vgnj_sEE8Io/видео.html
This tech suggested that 15w40 should still be used with shorter intervals.