Marshall DSL 40CR Bedroom and jamming levels (my current take)
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- edit- found out afterwards, using channel volume increase brightness and clarity on low volume settings, so if that is what you are after, do that, however on higher than bedroom levels, i would advice sticking with cranking the masters instead.
This is a non scriptet "quick tip" video that turned out a bit longer than i wanted, but hopefully you watch it all and see if this helps you.
please comment if you have any issues with these settings, and as i use this amp more, i might be able to help some of you with different problems in sound etc, as i figure this amp out for myself along the way.
best amp i have had so far, even at bedroom level playing. i put it on 20w for home use btw, i heard people say the 40w mode sounds the best, and i agreed, and heard a big difference when playing loud, but when i dialed it in the way i have it set now (with a PRS guitar) the difference was minimal. I found it depends alot on your settings, whether the 40w sounds better than the 20w or not. with the right settings, the difference is neglible.
there is a hole thing about keeping the amp on the floor, vs raising it, and maybe then it will have a bigger difference? i will have to test and see, but for now, hopefully this video inspires someone out there who is having a hard time, finding good tones on this magnificent amp.
Okey, so i will make update videos throughout this journey, as there are alot of factors that play into good sound with amps.. i was at my first band rehersal today, and i had to tweak it alot to get it to sound how i wanted. The room is very boomey, and all my mids and definition disappeared. Turning mids up didn't sound good, and i actually ended turning mids down, and just turning the volume up a quite a bit to be able to cut through.
I will make update videos for settings best in different scenarios as i go through it myself😁
Very good, I wait for it, try to use a cheap attenuator, which helps alot.
This damn kid is right. I lowered my channel volume and I like it. You have to really get things out of whack to make this amp sound bad. I am totally satisfied
Had mine for a few years..great amp..i use the amp speaker with a 2x12 cab..it sounds sooo friggin good..i keep most of my settings at noon..except the eQ...high 6..mid 7..low 5...and takes pedals like a champ!
I have the Marshall DSL40C (previous version of your amp). I love the tone of the amp. It has a great 'Marshall' sound. I can never use mine for home practice. It's just too loud for my house. It is not really a 'bedroom amp'. To practice I use my Boss Katana 50 MKII and run it through my headphones.
Had my DSL40cr for almost 4yrs... Struggled getting my tone where i liked it until i gave up using my pedal board. Left EQ all at noon, master where i needed it for "bedroom volume", and tweaked between my gain and guitar volume until it felt right for my own style of playing. I only mess with EQ when playing live. It adjusts for the room (big, small, cold, warm, etc...).
Once i had all this dialed in, i ditched my distortion and overdrives. I use fuzz up front for some stuff, along with delay and reverb in the FX channel. Thats it. This amp is 100% perfect. Just needs rebiasing from time to time and i only use the high, full watt setting.
Seriously... it pays to tweak settings methodically. Start with just gain and go from there.
Guy, thank you for this video! you confirmed my thoughts about origin volume and better experience with dsl
I use the master volume for attenuation. I use the channel volume to push the pre amp without having to turn the gain too high. With an SD1 boost, having the master at 2 and the channel volume at 7, it's breathing fire at a somewhat reasonable bedroom volume.
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Thank you for this video! I also live in an apartment, and needed to know if this amp could be played at home. You’ve answered my question, thank you.
I have the same issue. I don't sweat it much anymore. Even when im playing through headphones on my ir200 the resonance from the floor works almost as a speaker. So they always know. I know when their kids are playing.
As long as it isn't over 60, there isn't much they can do.
Marshall hit it out of the park with both the 40 and og50. You can get a nice sparkle on the 50. It has those nice old fender tones but with big ol balls. You can't get the same tones from a hotrod or deville without making your eardrums bleed.
I have the 20 watt version of this amp, the DSL20cr, and that switched to 10watt mode can be played in a apartment taking a little care not to turn the bass up too much, this amp produces a good amount of bass! especial if you're a chugger. The bass is very tight and sounds really good, hard to turn it down but it's what your neighbors are going to hear. Also, I play my amp using a 1x12 extension cabinet so I'm pushing two Greenback 25 watt speakers. That in 10 watt mode, gain/volume @ noon shakes the walls!! But sounds SO sweet!! Right now the DSL20CR can be had for 660.00 new at sweetwater but I got mine for 599.00 at ZZounds but they're currently out of stock. have fun!
@@MakerMark13 I also have that amp. What's your experience with playing at bedroom volumes with no master volume?
Here's a tip Sir...change your V2 tube to a ECC823 tube. It's a split tube, and will balance out when switching from classic to ultra. I think your settings are great for bedroom
I use my pedals on my 50 when at bedroom levels. I like the gain on the amp, too. I'd have to go outside to be able to withstand the volume.I'm interested in the 40 also. It's like 3 amps in one. Does the 40 have a cab output?
Hey man, Love this amp and ive had mine for a few months. i must say your settings sound fantastic! Let me know if you get any sound complaints 🤣
I agree, fantastic amp! Glad to hear it!😎
Best sounding Marshall in the last 20 years, the Vintage Modern a close second.
The only way to control clean and dirty volumes with an origin is to use your guitars volume pots .. you have to set it so that you get your distortion by turning up the volume pot . You have to use your Volume pot like its a boost .
The best way is to use your neck pickup for clean tones . Roll down the neck volume for clean and when you want drive switch to the bridge pickup with the bridge volume pot set between 8 to 10 .
Thats how guys managed this issue when amps were all single channel .
Now of course that doesnt work for every situation or style but that is the only option you have with an Origin JTM 45 1959SLP/Plexi or 1987 Bluesbreaker
For loud playing i find it sounds better to crank the channel volumes and turn down the master volumes.
That's the key to this amp.
Isn't it better to crank the master volume so you get power amp saturation?
@@neilkendall5499 not as good IMO, it makes it sound a little more towards the low end than the high end, but you could make up for it with EQ.
I have both amps. Same deal with the Origin 50. I can’t make it work even with a Weber attenuator. On the DSL i use a line selector boss pedal to use as a master on the fx loop. If you mix both amps is does sound very cool. I wonder what have you done to make the origin work for you. I use:
Origin 50:
Mid on output
Presence 7
Master 10 (attenuator around 2-3)
Treb 2.5
Mid 3.5
Bass 2.5
Tilt 7
Gain 3 no boost
DSL 40c OG (no master)
Classic gain (crunch)
Gain 5
Vol 10 (line selector volume around 2-3 on fx loop)
Ultra gain (od1)
Gain 2
Master 7-8 (fx loop 2-3)
Treb 6.5
Mid 4
Bass 3
No tone shift
Presence 4.5
Resonance 2
No reverb
Les Paul humbuckers guitar mostly. Use both amps on stereo and edge of breakup to add pedals for boost, solo or fxs. Stock dsl 40c with 70/80 celestion and origin runs into Marshall cab from the 70’s with v30 new ones.
Cool video man
I had both DSL40C and DSL40CR. The DSL49CR is definitely better. The ultra high gain channel on the 40C is much harsher sounding.
Great video! I can't make my mind up between this and The Laney Iron Heart 30 combo.
I'm in the exact same situation. What did you go for?
@@melanie2663 I don't really needan amp right now. Most of my gear is digital now.
Sounds great sounds tight.
Sounds great! So at this volume its not too bad can sit near the amp and play in the bedroom! My main concern with getting this amp is can it sound good at low volume as I keep hearing mixed feelings!
Yea the secret is to turn up the Master over half way up, gain just past noon, then use Volume to control
how loud it is, that Cranked Master Volume keeps the tube running hot and you get a great sound at very
low volume using the Volume at probably 1 or 2 so far the neighbors arent complaining
As a mostly bedroom amp player, i would absolutely recommend this. Crank either the master, or the volume and use the other one to decide the actual volume. If you have a blues driver or some other pedal, combined with maybe a reverb, you can get all the tones you could want for very cheap.
As i said, i have an origin, and had to buy so much extra gear too make it playable at home it was ridiculous. I will make a short video of the tones i can get out od this amp at home, and after the next band practice, i will make an updated video on the settings to get it sounding great at louder volumes😊
@@themusketeer9458 Awesome look for forward to see next video!
@@themusketeer9458the master volume, when cranked gives huge hissing noses and some “stormy cloud” sounds. Is it the preamp tube problem?
@themusketeer9458 channel volume = pre amp tubes. Master volume = power amp tubes. People on forums say that most of the tone on the dsl is produced by preamp tubes so if you crank the master but turn down the channel volume, you're losing most of the rich tone. According to what I've read
Volume drives the pre amp, master just makes it louder.
To drive the pre amp tubes you need to do the opposite of what you do.
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Was torn between this or the 5150 combo iconic 15 watts. Bought the latter and never regretted.
the latter being the 5150? I'm thinking of getting one..
@@pg9193 oh yes the 5150 iconic 15. Lotsa gain and I run them with a ts808. Oh gosh it’s just so tight. 😝.
@@fadlyhans82 oof, i am jealous, I'm stuck with a blackstart 15w amp that has terrible gain.. I will upgrade to a 5150 soon!
Is the amp noisy? I mean does it hum a lot? Thanks for the video
I’ve heard many people change the speaker in these amps.
Are you waiting for the neighbors to leave?😊
what decibel is it at when playing quiet? low quiet can it get?
Unfortunatly i don't have a db measure device, so i have now idea.. but it can get whisper quiet, tho unless you live in an apartment with thin paper walls, you should be able to get a great sound at speaking volumes
Sounds like you need a Blackstar St. James
Why?
That's a ridiculous amp to play at bedroom levels. You're never gonna enjoy the possibilities at reduced volume levels. 5 watts is about all you'd ever want for a bedroom and even that is loud.
Again.. Foget about the gain, push the tubes with volume first, the gain. Sounds weak and stupid
The term "bedroom" volume needs to end. It's one of the stupidest terms in the world of guitar.
No.
@@bmoneybby No? OK lol
The term "bedroom volume needs to end", needs to end
@@SuchaDoofus Yes! Lol
The cheap garbage gear channel for those people that cannot afford the real deal.
A $1,000 Marshall Amp isn’t real gear?
As someone that owns a soldano slo100..this is a nice amp
and what is the real deal?
This is not a gear channel, i just post random stuff once in a while ;) i was gettign frustrated that there was so little info on the stuff i wondered about, so as i tried it out myself i thought it would be nice to share some stuff..
I bet you can't play worth shit. That is what your comment alludes to.