Nixon With No Notes: Is Vietnam Worthwhile?
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2024
- During the President's News Conference, May 8 1970.
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Love or hate Nixon, no one can deny that he was more intelligent than most politicians today.
Nah, he is just articulate with his words, which can hide easily on the mask of incompetence. I would say Trump fared better than him even if Trump is in your face with what he says and feels. Nixon is first class evil, and hellfire should await his soul
Totally Agree
Love the knowledge, that while India has gone on ahead to become the world's 5th largest economy, Pakistan has sunk, beyond 'no return ', refuting Nixon's estimate of right and wrong.
It gladness our hearts that the failed proposition like Pakistan, which Richard Nixon, supported so avidly, actually harboured a dreaded enemy if America, called Osama Bin Laden, for several years, the killer of thousand of Americans. Serves Nixon right. The AH..😮 A true slap on his face for, his prejudices against Hindus and India.
Karma never fails.
Love from India..❤
Oh, really? Nixon is called a hypocrite, in India, for his downplaying of the Hindu genocide, in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) during 1970-1971. 😮
Read up your history, man.. Many of you are really like ostriches, with their heads buried into the ground, not looking at reality and never thinking beyond North America. Remember, Karma, is a powerful thing. What you sow, you shall reap. If not today, tomorrow! 😮
I read that he had an IQ of 140 or so.
He did get me home
Nixon had superior intellect and by the standards at the time he was lacking in morals. By today’s standards for politicians he was a saint.
HE WASN'T LACKING ANY MORALS, HE SIMPLY TRIED TO PROTECT HIS STAFF THAT WERE INVOLVED IN WATERGATE, WHICH HE DID NOT ORDER. JFK&LBJ however were both total swine who had NO MORALS. They stole the 1960 election and got us into a war No one wanted or asked for. They cheated on their wives every day, and lied to the public every day. If you want to learn more see my detailed work FATAL FLAWS BOOK 2 1945-1975.
By todays standards watergate would be considered a speeding ticket
He was clearly an intelligent man but by todays standards his morals were pretty awful. Both in political behavior and in personal opinions. He’s not a saint, he never was, he never will be remembered as that. I admire the man for his intelligence, I really do. But there’s no denying the fact that he was not a morally good man.
.. he was set up by the cia
Even by those standards he was not lacking in morals, only hated by the Left, who were a lot worse than him. Reminds of the anti-Trump insanity
Wow. Such a different time. So civilized, articulate and respectful - both the reporter and the President. And the President himself hosting the press conference rather than a talking head. I fear our country will never return to that sort of civility.
We've only begun to fall in the Abyss. America and the West cannot recover because we fear to name the enemy within.
It won't and I'm sorry to say that
UTuube and its peers will see to it that civility never returns.
That’s how a real President talks, not like dumbiden
Yes, only in your country. We, the rest of the free, democratic world still are.
Now, I respect and even admire Nixon. But he was a crook at the end.
It just proves how immoral you Americans are. Or at least the guys you vote for. Look at current times
I've seen quite a few videos lately of President Nixon and I have to say he was one very sharp individual...Way ahead of a few of the Presidents that came after him. I think history will also portray him that way.
I have as well and I agree.
One word in response;
Watergate.
@@deanredwine7951compare to what the orange buffoon had done, it made RMN looked like sick Joke.
As far as I'm aware it was never fully proven that President Nixon was involved. Please remember that Nixon resigned, he was not forced out of the presidency. And he resigned because he could see that public opinion and Congress had solidly turned against him. I'll go to my grave believing that he would have eventually been cleared had he stuck it out and fought, but he knew the scandal was tearing the country apart at a time when we had much bigger problems. It was the right thing to do for America. It took much more humility and moral fiber to step aside as he did than the entire Democratic party has been able to muster in at least 60 years. You say Watergate? I say so effing what?
That's comparable to jaywalking after Jan.6 , and he was gone because of it.@@deanredwine7951
I used to think that the one good thing to come out of the Vietnam War was that we learned from it. It’s hard to believe how wrong I was.
Sometime around the mid-eighties, somebody at the Pentagon decided that if they removed and recycled all the paper inside the binders that held the "lessons learned" from Vietnam that the Department of Defense could save some money by not needing to buy a new bunch of binders to hold the plans for the American military's next adventures. What came out of the "lessons learned" was a ton of egg cartons.
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We don't learn.
War makes money. Peace not so much. It's a fatal pattern but the big defense corporations won't let us maintain peace for very long.
100% accurate
ty honorable chairbear
He ended the draft and lowered the voting age, to give the young a voice in society!
I'm 77 & served in the NYARNG 1963-69 & wasn't eligible to vote until '67! I voted for Nixon in '68, but I
think that if 18 year olds could have voted earlier, the Vietnam War would have ended, years earlier!
Nixon waited until 1972, I think, or four years into his presidency, to do it & 1973 to end the "Draft"!
@@rongendron8705
Which was four years quicker than his two predecessors.
Imo the voting age should be increased to 30. 😂
@@williamgill_esq.6487exactly. I sure in the heck had no idea about who to vote for at 18.
@@FleagleSangriaIt had to do with the War. They were drafted for War despite being unable to vote. I think that is a fair trade.
President Richard Nixon Was Absolutely Brilliant
So true.
And crooked.
Ok compared to today's republicans he was a great patriot. But lets not forget he was instrumental in criminalizing cannabis, and hand picked GW Bush.
Yeah... he proved to be a crook too.
@thesaw9988 Go back in your cage.
0:58 I like to compare how he describes his critics with how leaders today insult and show contempt for theirs. I've noticed it in many videos. Maybe this channel could feature a compilation of each and ask viewers which they would prefer.
❤ President Richard Nixon always knew what to say. ❤
Yes, much of it caught on tape exposing him as a corrupt.
Nixon was a WW 2 U S Navy Officer..
Any Questions..
Yes. Most of your politicians at the time were. (like LBJ who started the whole shit)
I'm European, born in 1973. I did not "serve" my country's stupid politicians. I'm a libertarian with a concience.
Nixon proved to be a crook at the end. No matter what he did on foreign policy.
Question: what did Richard actually achieve after finaly being elected. Yes, I'd considder the civil rights movement and ending the war a plus.
Could've left Europe to the soviets.
Does the poop deck really mean what I think it does?
Speaking from across the pond, I have to say watching a few of these videos now, President Nixon really does allow us all to reflect on a time when American politicians were incredibly smart, articulate and thoughtful. His understanding of foreign policy is second to none.
It feels as though in recent times U.S politics has been dragged to the gutter, and that is a terrible indictment on our age.
We need more principled and knowledgeable leaders like Nixon. As far as Watergate, a simple B&E gone wrong. The press just wanted to sell newspapers.
Happened all the time , his people had bad luck , they were discovered.
And the liberals who hated Nixon for exposing one of their traitors in 1950 used it to get him out. Hoover and his corrupt FBI made sure the info got out.
Likely true.
He wasn't removed for the burglary. He was removed for the coverup. Nixon thought he was above the law. Congress showed him he wasn't.
pls explain.
Nixon was a genius proven to ba a crook.
As a European, i consider Whitegate a farce.
You elected idiot after idiot after that.
Yes, the press just want's to sell newspapers.
It's called capitalism.
Similar issues today
I'd take him in a heartbeat compared to what we have now. Plus he was a decent piano player.
He was also an excellent poker player, in fact his poker winnings funded his first congressional campaign. Poker is excellent training for a politician, particularly in international affairs. You have to understand your opponents which he clearly did, and ensure that your reactions and subtle messages dictate their behaviour and the 'game' of politics. You play the hand you are dealt to the best of your ability. It helps you understand that you won't always hold the aces.
58,000 young Americans died in Vietnam, and 21,195 were killed after Nixon was elected on the basis of his secret plan to end the war. 22 of those who were killed were in my infantry company during the year I was in it. Nixon was a complex man who made difficult and momentous decisions in a complicated time. I'll let history decide if the Vietnam War was worth it, but for me and many others, that would be a hard sell.
I'm sorry for the loss of your fellow soldiers, no one should have to endure that. Nixon's continuation of the war is a giant stain on his legacy, as it should be.
@@masond7573This assumes he could just get out and the North-Vietnamese would agree. People go on about conditions but the Army of the Republic of Vietnam needed time to train whilst the North-Vietnamese continued to attack the South. It is a horrible situation either way but blaming him is absurd.
@@johnnotrealname8168 viet vet stated we didnt trust the sth viet army they were lame had a few as kit carson scouts australia lamented their lack of elan from australia
It's not absurd. He took office in Jan. 1969. The war ended in 75.
Basically the same amount of casualties under Johnson & Nixon.
If your gonna win then win. If not get out.
@@jamesdavis6036 It is absurd, he was getting out but what idiot lets the communists take over without giving your allies a fighting chance? He was correct in gaining peace with honour. Also the only reason winning as such was out of the question is that anti-war activists fleeced Lyndon Baines Johnson.
It was good when America was an independent and sovereign nation with a popularly elected President. Those were good days.
Independent and sovereign nation during the Vietnam War? okay buddy
Can only imagine what Biden would say given the same question
He'd say, "Come on, man!"
But were not in a war....what are you talking about
@@tommyhaynes9157 we are in "proxy" wars in Ukraine and Israel...and besides, Biden would say: " As Richard Nixon just advised me, I am going to do........."
It would have been worth it. Slavery was a national abomination and Hitler had to be stopped
@@tommyhaynes9157... we're talking about, you know... the thing. Ask Cornpop.
Brilliantly showed the balance needed. These are difficult questions.
spot on
#Boss
WOW. He's awesome. No notes. Better than the guy we have now. We're a laughing stock around the world. I admire Nixon even more now. Thank you Sir.
America's Presidents have been actors since Reagan
Better than the guy before the guy we have now, and three or four guys before them - generic party politicians who would break out into a sweat and flee if the teleprompter conked out.
Best wishes from Vermont ❄️
At this time I was too young to vote but I was not happy with Nixon after Watergate. My first vote at 18 years old was Ronald Reagan. But watching RUclips videos with Nixon I would have voted for him. A brilliant man and a statesman…not like potato head.
@@TheStockwell, at least orange man didn't want to outlaw my rifle...
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987all the talk about taking everyone's guns was just another political stunt from the republicans.
The republicans nowadays is not your friend, infact they're just the opposite, but people like you are so naive and gullible you just ain't capable of thinking on your own apparently.
After watching the clip and reading some of the many comments, the common consensus is Nixon was a more poised, artful, and intellectual politician by a multiple of ten than anyone we have today. Yet he is one of the most reviled presidents in American history.
He was attacked by the left leaning press. He was more popular with most people.
I was still in diapers when Vietnam ended but it sounds like it was a mess.
your diapers or Vietnam or maybe both?
@@alpha-omega2362 probably both!
Lol@@alpha-omega2362
Lol@@thomasmcroy1756
That saying about how "everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" applies to war. It seemed like a good idea at first.
well, it literally worked out exactly has he said!
It’s worth noting that George Kennan, the father of “containment “, thought getting involved in Vietnam was unnecessary at the start. He compared it to an elephant (as in the US) being frightened by a mouse. That being said, he felt that once the US committed, a premature withdrawal would only do more harm than good…anything short of invading and overthrowing the Hanoi government, was going to result in defeat anyway
Well he was not always correct. He got it correct once. I cannot fathom why he though letting a regime such as that exist in what 1960 controlling all of Vietnam and pushing to Indonesia or Laos and Cambodia was good.
My Pant and Shirt were made in Nam..
@@finddeniro I know right? I cant think of anything more ironic
@@johnnotrealname8168 Laos was a mess too for sure, but the main reason that the Ho Chi Minh trail existed was to supply the viet cong in the south. If Vietnam was United earlier, there’s no trail and possibly less political agitation (though we will never know for sure). Cambodia was ruled by Sihanouk who wanted to remain neutral at all costs but the war eventually led to the rise of the genocidal Khmer Rouge
You make a good point about Indonesia tho…the 1965 coup plotters said that they didn’t feel confident to execute it until the US sent the first combat troops to South Vietnam
@@bryanmack4054 It is highly doubtful that the Vietnamese would just leave Cambodia alone and if Vietnam did unify there would be thousands of anti-communists and the Americans would be called in there too.
I strongly believe that on the long term History will judged Hon. Richard Nixon justly...
Vietnam wore out those involved. Glad it is long overwith.
It was to me. My brother was there.
Nixon had his moments like him or hate him he is definitely unique
Military and diplomatic victory was all but achieved. Then it all fell apart over the course of about two years with Nixon’s resignation, at home American political instability, and the new Congress flooding into power… North Vietnam saw its chance to break its signed word, and we didn’t even at least provide air support to South Vietnam.
Yet, even after all that, Nixon had still permanently split the Communist world. So instead of Domino Theory fully playing out, like it actually would have, Soviet and Red Chinese supported communist countries and movements began battling and stifling one another instead.
Even out of office, Nixon’s influence and fruitful efforts remained.
He correct on one point, stick a fork in the USA, we are pretty much screwed.
G. F. W
O. R. E
N. E. E
E. E. D
He was completely right. And not only in the Asian world. We've seen the country losing war after war because of listening to the ignorant people who repeat the enemies propaganda and demoralize their own military and criticized the actions taken causing their own country's defeat by their stupidity doing and saying exactly what the enemy wants them to say.
Lots of men who didn’t have a say
Those were Drafted into a living HELL 🔥
He's my hero I used to watch the news every day and think am I going to have to go there fortunately he stopped the draft the year I graduated high school
It's terrifying how accurate his words have predicted the geopolitical system of the 21st century.
I wouldn't know who to ask
I always find it fascinating today the US and Vietnam are MUCH closer than China and Vietnam. Who would have guessed this?
Swedish Financing..
@@finddeniro Swedish??
A bunch of people in the CIA and American academia guessed that *before* the US military intervened in the first place. As they said to policymakers at the time, just looking at centuries of history, Vietnam will *never* maintain a long-term alliance with China. But policymakers thought, they're both Communist, of course they're going to work together to cause problems for us.
I always thought President Nixon did a fine job handling the Vietnam War. He had it virtually won in the 1971-72 timeframe. Congress threw away the victory by refusing to re-supply South Vietnam.
Why is America the designated peacekeeper.
Because every country in the world wants & does take advantage of us. The USA has grown 'soft'. The people of the USA can't comprehend anything beyond their own narcissism
He was a good president.
My grandpa didn’t make the wall. I took that personally when I visited for the first time.
history should remember him with the respect he is due and by that i mean, very kindly. i will refrain from commenting on the white house here in february 2024.
It was for everything else also, (business and manufacturing)
NOT only united states need president like nixon ,but all the world ,
You are sorely missed, Sir.
This was eerily prophetic. Nixon inherited the Vietnam War quagmire from LBJ and did his best to get us out of it. It was sadly very messy.
If future presidents had learned from Vietnam and Nixon's efforts we'd not have half the foreign policy problems we have today.
Never should have been there in the first place.
Biden would have had to consult his crayon note card to respond to every pre-approved question
Richard Nixon would have been a good guy to sit down with over a few beers for a few hours to talk politics, history, sports (he was a huge baseball fan), etc.. He had a good brain -smarter than JFK - graduating 3rd in his law class at Duke, and unlike the Kennedy brothers, Nixon was a self-made man. I heard a story that when Nixon was a law student at Duke, each morning he carried a wheelchair-bound law student up the stairs of the law library. That's something you never hear about the man.
WOW.... thanks for sharing this with us. Nixon had a heart for the downtrodden. God bless him!
It's really an injustice to a such a great man that all most public school students are taught by mostly left-leaning teachers is how he was this "criminal" involved in Watergate? I honesty think Dick was the best President we had in the latter half of the 20th century and had he survived the Watergate scandal and stayed in office, he'd have done a lot more good than harm in completing his second term. A brilliant statesman and a foreign policy genius. We sure could use Dick Nixon today, his expertise could get us out of they increasing tension with Russia and China.
Is that last bit true? I have never heard about that before.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Yes, I heard that years ago, and again at the time the movie *Frost/Nixon* came out.
@@jamesanthony5681 2009?
Well well well…..Nixon wasn’t so bad after all. But his contemporaries brought him down. But his Presidential legacy is now rising as it should.
He went nuts and became obsessed and paranoid, and ordered bad things to happen. But this was one brilliant man who I have grown to have a lot of respect for over the past decades (I hated him growing up). I would vote for him, right now, in heart beat, without hesitation, despite what he did. He was clearly eons smarter than the smartest minds we have now.
Harsh descriptive words about Nixon. I knew him better than you, I followed him n worked for him. He did not go nuts, n he wasn't paranoid. Nixon had a strong conscience, n there were others that fumbled, causing Nixon to look worse. He was a brilliant man with a deep conscience. I never doubted his competence. He deeply loved America. He was a different man. He had a lot of compassion ❤️ 🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
Longest "No" ever
He foresaw what happened in Cambodia and to some extend in Vietnam after the war
Up to 20% dead, a Police State in Vietnam forced into Labour Camps and persecution of the Hmong people in Laos, I wonder how guilty the liberals were after that one.
And what did Nixon and Kissinger do to the civilian population of Cambodia?
@@Luxsky Not much really. Tried to protect them from a greater horror.
@@johnnotrealname8168 It was reckoned to be in excess of 150,000, and as high as 600,000 and contributed to the starvation of one million people. That hardly constitutes “not much really”. Nixon’s intervention also helped to tip the country into civil war, stimulating the rise of the Khmer Rouge. He was one of the authors of the chaos that followed.
@@Luxsky Again debatable. It may have been as low as 52,000. Furthermore the North-Vietnamese already were infiltrating the country and funding and aiding the khmer rouge.
Gosh it is stunning how far down into the gutter our civility has gone. Whether or not you agreed with his politics there was significant give and take with no shouting and interruption. The problem now is that we are a much less educated country particularly as it relates to critical thinking.
And we let the media destroy this man. However, he has recovered, but the network journalists are still in decline.
Just imagine if Abrams got the job instead of Westmoreland in the beginning.
We need a president with brains.
Won’t get brains from Trump!
This was before politicians were out to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense.
I admire Nixon but Vietnam was a losing proposition.
I wish we'd been more respectful to him
The ineptitude of our state department put us in so bad a position that winning was not possible.
And in the vastness in time.
We are involved with Vietnam as trading Countries ? Hmmmm ?
Well, history proved that it wasn't worth it.
Was it worth it…worth it for…whom?..
That is the question in the end…who truely…benefited?..
Ending the draft should have raised the voting age to 25 years old
Was Korea Worth it ? NO !
Whatever came before, after American forces withdrew, the Congress should have kept funding the South as requested by the Pentagon instead of cutting it by two thirds in 1974.
History said, " No!"
He was s great man and very missed. That said, unfortunately the only good thing that was achieved by the war was the enrichment of the government contractors and the continued power and wealth of the MIC. It was never meant to be a 'Win' for the US. RIP Mr President. 🇺🇸
This country needs Dick Nixon more than ever.
Like Iraq war Vietnam was an investment: in Iraq was oil, and in Vietnam the need to stop communism expansion. Secondarily was the American spirit to liberate people from oppression and aggression.
But he did just that. His military advisors told him exactly what was going to happen and he withdrew anyway. We can say that it had to be done, or that it was worth ending the war, but there’s no avoiding the fact that he pulled US troops out under a pretense of peace he knew was unsustainable, and the communists butchered the South Vietnamese just as he predicted.
I can applaud nearly all of Nixon’s words on almost any topic. His actions leave more to question.
Actually this is not so. He withdrew with honour. His whole plan was Peace With Honour and he did get that. The South-Vietnamese only lost because of the Democrat Congress being such wimps. They wanted to get out of the War unilaterally, with Prisoners-of-War, and refused to aid Angola in their anti-communist struggle. Blame the democrats.
Hmmmm...no teleprompter. Imagine that.
"Fight for the ones that doesn't fight for you does worth?"
Nixon said once "im not a crook" e com certeza, não era. Nem a postura corporal nem vocabulário correspondiam a de um capanga.
Please someone , tell me why the hell were we in Vietnam in the first place ?
Nixon better than LBJ
Like him or not, Nixon was no damn dummy! He was light years ahead of the Moron currently in the White House.
It's easy to see in hindsight that we chose the wrong side in another country's civil war,not because they were wrong,but because they didn't have the means or the will to fight against a determined opponent with an unlimited supply of courage,and arms.
With that being said,if we hadn't chosen to fight communism in Southeast Asia,we would have to do it in Europe or Asia irregardless of whether we wanted to or not because it(the war between communism and the west) was inevitable.
Then why didn't we go to Cuba , ninety miles off the coast of Florida. This country put Castro in then he took up with Russia. So , why did we go to Vietnam to fight in a civil war to fight communism.
Wrong. The Vietnam conflict was based on a false premise. The “Domino Theory “ which proved to be wrong.
@@Skedawg88The issue is that the Americans had intervened already and bombed the @#£% out of communists. In a minor sense it did succeed as Indochina went communist.
It was already occurring.
Vietnam was us covering for France’s attempt at regaining IndoChina empire possessions after WW2
I really think not enough blame is placed on France when it comes to Vietnam. To me the most unbelievable thing is to see how opposed to the Vietnam War my French family was/is. When, in fact, it was the French who started the whole thing in the 1950s... As usual, we had to mop up their mess. The same could be said about a lot of the other crises throughout the world. They are often caused by the ex French and British and Spanish empires, and the ottomans, and a lot of other countries have had to clean up these messages. Just to name a few, Israel palestine, iraq, afghanistan, etcetera
We had no business being the world police
History tells the story and as we know it's not a good tale at all.
I love that disgusted look just before he answered lol..he sure hated the press and news media. It was kind of a dumb question.
Nixon what the hell are you talking about😂
“Finished as a peacekeeper in the Asian world” OK and
Ah… a president talking directly to reporters. How weird!
What a waste of a war
“Only history will record whether it was worthwhile.”
Metaphorical comparison.
Nixon withdrawing from Vietnam was like when Thranduil abondened the Dwarves….while it was not Tolkien’s canon lore it was for the Southeast Asians…time will record history…but not by the victors.
What is going on here. You must not have lived during this Criminals CEO time.
It seems like watergate was not so bad. Now we have democrats doing much worse every week. He should not have resigned.
Agreed 👍🏼
The funniest thing is he resigned because he was so honest and honorable that he felt it was the right thing to do unlike the organized crime bosses we have running things currently.
@@matts.9330 It shows how the country and society has changed for the worse. I have definitely changed my mind about him from long held assumptions.
@@archidubethese assumptions were spoonfed to us by our rotten to the core teachers. Once we read up on the record, we know better.
Nixon was forced to resign; republican senators told him they would vote to have him removed
Biden would have answered: "chocolate chocolate chip."
intelligence ≠ good
Nixon makes our current crop of politicians look like clowns.
The audio tapes that Nixon made himself irreparably damaged his legacy. As Talleyrand is attributed to have said (in another context), "it was worse than a crime; it was a blunder." As to Viet Nam, ultimately the US left. Today, an American can visit Hanoi as a tourist.
Worth it for WHO???
For the keepers.
No, it wasn't worth it. Not even a little bit.
ok google.....you won't let me have my 'freedom' of speech. I snapped a picture of what I stated, I will make copies, and send to every member of congress & the US Supreme Court . Its' time you social media sites get a good lesson---in freedom of speech
So far sighted and contemplative. What happened to us?
His prediction turned true. We abandoned Vietnam and they were overrun and the massacre that Nixon said would happen did. We forsook our own principles and propagated the lie "peace with dignity". What dignity? We also betrayed the other countries who fought alongside us. MacArthur was right. "There is no substitute for total victory". WE could have achieved that, but for Lyndon JMcNamara
He had to fight the War in 1969 not the War in 1965. He, in any case, did take some out of the way actions regarding Cambodia for example.