Ben Starr + Abubakar Salim | Dealing with grief, why we love games, and how we met | Surgent Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Abubakar Salim and Ben Starr met in drama school. They shared a love for games, but didn’t know it. Now, they both work in the industry. In this hour-long conversation, they discuss what made them decide to finally embrace the truth: they truly love everything about games.
United in their experience of playing atypical heroes, Abu and Ben share what it’s like to work with creative teams that give them the freedom to play, explaining how people can only really connect with a performance that feels real. Both having the opportunity to originate their characters, they discuss how games can tackle some of life’s most painful trials…yet still somehow make them fun.
When discussing games’ unique quality of being fuelled by emotional input, Abu and Ben list what they believe to be the gold standard of recent games and share deeply personal stories about how some more unexpected titles directly helped them through hard times.
They chat about the unique approach their parents took to games when they were younger, tracing their most well-known performances to their considerable experience with a controller in hand.
From chasing performances that feel truly “gross” to admitting genuine nervousness when presenting something new to devoted fans, Abu and Ben get candid about their careers, how they met and why they love seeing fans who wear their support on their sleeves.
Why games? What makes them different? And will they even stick with it? Find out in this hour-plus conversation between drama school friends who just want to play.
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I respect both of you so much for mentioning how there's a strength that men must sometimes exhibit when there are times of heavy hardship. I believe the true strength that men need to learn is when to be emotional and not lash them out at others. And learning that it's okay to cry.
hyped af for whatever you madlads are cooking up. Also bayek deserved a trilogy.
This was a great conversation. They would make a great podcasting duo just talking about the games theyre playing
Bayek is one of the greatest characters in gaming, I'll never forget our journey through Egypt 🤌
Just two bros, bro-ing out about video games. This was a great watch!
This was great!
This has to be the most profound, wholesome and relatable conversation I've come across. Growin up I was always hiding my love for videogames, and now in my adult life I still do in a way. Finding people to talk about games sometimes feels difficult because it's not a simple medium to engage with for the most part, but hearing you guys talk about comparing to the way people love film or literature has opened my eyes to explain it with that type of context, for those who don't understand the medium.
Thank you so much for this Abubakar & Ben. Love the work you guys have put forth, and looking forward to Tales of Kenzera!
A great conversation between two great human beings! This is so cool!
Thank you Abubakar & Ben for sharing this conversation with us. Such a genuine chat about your craft & passion for video games. Appreciate you speaking on your own experiences of loss & grief and how games helped you during those difficult times.
It’s great to see so much mutual respect & love throughout this conversation, both for one another & the work of others in the industry.
Your performances in AC Origins & FFXVI respectively were both phenomenal. True talents and I’m excited to see other projects from you both in the future.
I've been a huge fan of Ben Starr from the moment I heard his voice with Clive! I was not familiar with Abubakar's work since I was not a huge fan of AC, but his presentation of Tales of Kenzera ZAU was so touching! Absolutely love these two. This was a very enjoyable conversation to hear! Looking forward to hear more!
Love these two! I can't wait for Tales of Kenzera
What an incredible conversation Ben did an amazing job in FF16 and it’s amazing listening to gamers gush over their love of the art. It’s even made me wanna go back and give Origins another try.
8 days from today will be 1 Year since I lost my Father. Seeing you guys be so open and vulnerable about such an intense moment grief is highly appreciated. Thank You
*Looks like the AC Origins X FFXV crossover quest is now canon…* 👀
*FF XVI
@@onlylemons5144 No error there. The crossover event was Origins & Final Fantasy 15. But yeah, I know Clive was FF 16. I’m basically saying it’s canon, franchise/universe wise.
This was really fun. I could listen to this podcast every week 🤣
I've been playing games all my life, but I always feel like I have to keep it a secret from anyone who doesn't play games. My parents have said multiple times that I should never been exposed to gaming. I wish I can find people like the both of you where I can just talk about games without any restraints.
Thank you so much Abubakar and Ben for this wonderful conservation, very insightful, personal, and truly authentic in terms of your friendship. Would love to see more conversations between you both.
We truly are in an amazing age where those who grew up on playing video games, can give back either by sharing their own experiences with other like minded people and build their own community or create their own immersive product that could have something unique to share and resonate with others. The medium is powerful, has so much unexplored territory, which is a exciting prospect and will eventually become a more respected form of entertainment when the public mass begin to gradually understand that.
Wish you all the best with Tales of Kenzera, it’s looking great! 😊
Aww I really loved this ❤
2 Goats 💯🔥
What a fantastic conversation.
Wonderful conversation
Yooo this is so nice and cool, goodjob
Love this conversation!! Thanks for sharing
this was such a delightful conversation! it felt like I was listening to two kindred spirits
This was a pure delight. Could listen to you both for hours on end.
A crossover I never knew I wanted, this is so cool😅
Really great talk of two incredbile people, would love it if you do it again some time in the future!
Yoooooooooo LETS GOOOOO
Its so cool to see two actors from some of my favourite games. Bayek is my favourite AC protagonist since Ezio and Clive is my favourite FF main character. Platinumed both games❤️
LOL this is crazy!!!
Tiger king and banana bread LOL so true
How could we forget 🙃
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