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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • In this video I'll be discussing the Old and Current Tatara, which one is better? Why is one better than the other?
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    Timestamps:
    Intro: (0:00)
    Tatara's history: (0:18)
    Old Tatara: (3:30)
    Current Tatara: (13:10)
    Was the rework worth it? (21:45)
    Outro: (24:15)
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  • @SuperCatHeroes
    @SuperCatHeroes Год назад +387

    petition to revert the F and C but keep the current fire effects

  • @krytokai32
    @krytokai32 Год назад +97

    In my honest opinion I believe Tatara deserves a full revert. Not only is it now barely meta, but its also extremely unenjoyable even for casual play. Tatara is meant to be a PvP wep, not some garbage you would use for server wars purely.

    • @kuramiz
      @kuramiz Год назад +2

      average kai W

    • @flashmedia.
      @flashmedia. Год назад

      his only W though

    • @LHJosh
      @LHJosh Год назад

      😂

    • @nicolaskielblock8296
      @nicolaskielblock8296 Год назад

      The old e sucks compared to this new one , the new r is very good too, the only thing that i dont like about the new tatara is the F being bad in general

  • @IBeefyI
    @IBeefyI Год назад +108

    Old Tatara lives up to the Kakuja design, a melee bruiser that deals alot of damage and goes in for a melee combat, New Tatara is lame asf, same issue with Hinami, Lycan,Kakujira,etc , insane range and hitbox abilities that just lead to an unfun experience in the game, no wonder why most people just quit or are forced to become a meta slave

    • @LHJosh
      @LHJosh Год назад +1

      1. Hina gets countered by the most brain dead weapon in the game, Crab
      2. It’s rework is valid because of the anime adaptation regardless of opinion, even if sushi doesn’t know his own games skill gap, he focuses the reality & honest replication of the real thing

    • @ItzNotNoah7982
      @ItzNotNoah7982 Год назад +2

      Ayo no i kinda like the new tatara XD the range is better

    • @ItzNotNoah7982
      @ItzNotNoah7982 Год назад +3

      Its kinda broken when u use it tho so it makes it boring

  • @unfallaufbeinen9286
    @unfallaufbeinen9286 Год назад +31

    I hate the New and love the old, He just could rework/nerf some parts of the kit, than giving us this piece of shlt

    • @vlowy2015
      @vlowy2015 Год назад +1

      Old rg was better by far lmao new weps nowadays sucks like reaper lycan kakujira

  • @ikealamper
    @ikealamper Год назад +18

    Revert old tatara or give it new moves / update old moves. Making a bodybuilder looking kagune ranged, giving it only melee to "Run and gun" is weird and doesnt suit it at all. Also, a "late game kagune" with RC requirement of 7.5 mil deserves a C skill.

  • @corvidcorax
    @corvidcorax Год назад +13

    "Reworked" into something unworkable, Tat deserved better.

  • @cringezosupremacy
    @cringezosupremacy Год назад +37

    New Tatara actually had an indirect nerf on R after the lag was fixed since before the R flames actually closed in instead of being fixed flames

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад +2

      Pretty sure Sushi slightly increased the R size when he did that, so wasn’t really a nerf

    • @cringezosupremacy
      @cringezosupremacy Год назад +1

      @@Zierar nah before the flames slowly closed in leaving no room for just stay still in its blind spot but after the fixed flame nerf u can just stay inside it’s ring until ur forced out

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад +3

      @@cringezosupremacy Tbh you got a good point, maybe if the blind spot was removed then the current Tatara would be a lot better in wars

    • @pokemonlol8855
      @pokemonlol8855 Год назад

      @@cringezosupremacy ruclips.net/video/rk-X-JY8aXU/видео.html&ab_channel=Typeable at 25s, there was an hole to stay in, ofc it was smaller but the the AOE is way bigger now

    • @ikealamper
      @ikealamper Год назад +1

      this this !

  • @murderable
    @murderable Год назад +4

    I was waiting for this vid 🔱👑 I quit rg but I enjoyed vid

  • @kombat1519
    @kombat1519 Год назад +13

    The thing about the old Tatara is when you counter a close range like ginkui or naru.... you can just use f skill and ejector and your good to go

  • @SyrupSprinkles
    @SyrupSprinkles Год назад +11

    They should probably revert F and bring back C and also do something with the god damn R because the damage is inferior comparing to how vulnerable you are when using it

  • @gogetsomevitamind
    @gogetsomevitamind Год назад +5

    Man, old TataraK1 was so fun to use, I remember eating 2 to 3v1s for breakfast while I was a TANK. 1v1s were fun too, everyone had fun. I wish Alex didn't rework it or at least added a version that Is a different stage, but had the reworked stuff. I would love it if I had old TataraK1 back.

  • @cringozingo8092
    @cringozingo8092 Год назад +11

    hell naw the rework aint good I’m not saying it’s bad but bro all of us know that the old tat was better, flame effects were awesome we would had our default colors instead of white pants and overall it was just better. I also felt like the old tat was way more combative and useable.

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад +3

      From my experience I also feel like that Old Tatara is more combative and useable than the current Tatara. I do agree with the white robe / pants sometimes not fitting with our colors.

  • @pokemonlol8855
    @pokemonlol8855 Год назад +7

    "New tatara" F Cd is rlly short (2,5 if i remember) and deal a lot of dmg + the size of the AOE is stupid. Imo the best way to use it is passive with E/R and to run with ejector/F
    A rlly good video

  • @Rukaiyx
    @Rukaiyx Год назад +13

    OG Tat 📈📈📈📈

  • @haroldcorocoto6345
    @haroldcorocoto6345 Год назад +9

    For me Old tatara is more realistic than the New one

  • @nofefgrdg
    @nofefgrdg Год назад +2

    Bro how i miss old tatara, I was such a try hard at this way back

  • @janre8062
    @janre8062 Год назад +7

    new tatara is so ass, it's supposed to be an endgame meta kagune but the update made it so bad that it unplayable, instead of alex reworking all of ken's stages that noone really cares about he should work on tatara and balance changes.

  • @cookiiez
    @cookiiez 3 месяца назад +1

    i miss the old tatara, very cool and my first "expensive" kagune with 750 lvl, good times

  • @bartuvialora1343
    @bartuvialora1343 Год назад +3

    I miss the old times of this game, the old tatara was so good...

    • @Rubsbenz05
      @Rubsbenz05 7 месяцев назад +1

      Fr this game was so good but now it's slowly dying. I remember when they put they new map on eveyone was gassed and excited about new kagunes, now the reworks and hackers ruin it

  • @axelceniza7022
    @axelceniza7022 Год назад +3

    it would be op if they kept the F and only revamped the E and R, tatara would be op as hell cause he can damage people with his F and also deal more damage when they are inside the ring of fire when using R

  • @voidlover77
    @voidlover77 Год назад +5

    I quit this game cause I was a tatara main and the new tatara is completely garbage compared to the other one it's not even fun to use it

  • @Necrolynx
    @Necrolynx Год назад +4

    Common W for zierar

  • @LordRD
    @LordRD Год назад +6

    Old tatara’s F was best. It would be good if the New tat had it but with more long distance.

    • @HuguesGugues
      @HuguesGugues 9 месяцев назад +1

      the new one is better, cause you dont have any type of stun or knockback after landing it, meaning that if your opponent was a good melee fighter, youd get punished. and the new F you need to know how to use/learn its timing and range.

  • @tisi363
    @tisi363 Год назад +1

    1:49 "YOU'RE AN APE"
    Proceeds to get disintegrated*

  • @Ravenryx
    @Ravenryx Год назад

    Nice vid

  • @maianimalhive8730
    @maianimalhive8730 Год назад +2

    4:43 i completely forgot that i thought it was just hugging and the r just enraging

    • @maianimalhive8730
      @maianimalhive8730 Год назад +1

      Forget about what i said about the r its just nostalgic haha we call it enrage

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад

      LOL

  • @umutkayra1755
    @umutkayra1755 Год назад +4

    The Reinforcers supremacy

  • @error5372
    @error5372 Год назад +2

    wow 25 min vid for ro ghoul

  • @Renato_kid
    @Renato_kid 3 месяца назад

    Kakuja battles is so cool man
    Is like pokemo-

  • @Rafita-1232
    @Rafita-1232 Год назад

    what music did you use in the background?

  • @Zeoticus
    @Zeoticus Год назад +3

    Tatarak1 old (awsom) vs Tatarak1 rework (garbich)

  • @skkfkdkf6101
    @skkfkdkf6101 Год назад +2

    Facts

  • @MrBryanVillegas
    @MrBryanVillegas Год назад +2

    I just miss the old f r combo the new e move now is cool and bring back the c tho bc anime accurate...

  • @raidraptor5893
    @raidraptor5893 Год назад +4

    the flames doing less damage and not refreshing when they touch fire is another reason why current tatara is "slightly" worse than old

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад

      It's funny cause the current Tatara does more damage than the old Tatara if you stay in the flames (even for a short period of time). If Old Tatara were added back into the game, it'd rely a lot on the F move because E and R only aren't enough to kill any player on the CCG team due to quinx spam. I think it's slightly worse because of how easily you can get punished for using any move on current Tatara.

    • @aximoral3657
      @aximoral3657 3 месяца назад

      the flames on the current one scale so much better with ur kagune stats but unfortunately relying on dot is very bad if u dont have a helper

  • @bababoeyboux7522
    @bababoeyboux7522 Год назад +1

    I was about to get tatara but then realized they reworked it and was like nah

  • @chuyees
    @chuyees Год назад +3

    give us the colored robes back

  • @QuangVu-dl6ic
    @QuangVu-dl6ic 2 месяца назад +1

    Miss old tatara

  • @markbenzmolit
    @markbenzmolit Год назад

    Old tatara f is so damm good I wanna use that rn

  • @aloneccg2158
    @aloneccg2158 Год назад +3

    Old one the best W

  • @phong906
    @phong906 Год назад +5

    Did old tatara also have unbreakable 65% damage reduction block or im just tripping?

    • @corvidcorax
      @corvidcorax Год назад +3

      IIRC it was around 75-85% DR + unbreakable. Very broken.

  • @sanic1st
    @sanic1st Год назад +5

    I personally think tatara deserved a C move which can protect it self from heavy stun weapons like ginkui or reaper
    Like just make no sense it a end game weapon and not have C move
    The other issue with self defend move for tatara in every war tatara get targeted by the whole enermy swat cuz tatara is anoying and not let they heal during war so tatara usually the first one to dies in war

    • @yououttapocket
      @yououttapocket Год назад +1

      this was my idea for a c move:
      After a 0.25 second windup, enter a counter stance for 1.5 seconds, if you are hit by a melee stun/grab in this window, slam the enemy into the ground, stunning for 1 second + high damage. pressing this ability again, or after the timer elapses will end the stance, dealing medium damage to any enemy hit. after using this ability, your next E or R cast will deal 33% more damage, including DOT. Medium-Long cooldown.
      the range on recast would be relatively short.

    • @sanic1st
      @sanic1st Год назад +1

      @@yououttapocket cool but there are alot of issue there
      1) kinda look like F move too much
      2) 0.25 wind up is too op
      3) C move should be a move that could give dash attack like rush forward where ur WASD head to while untargetable and leave fire trail behide seem better choice for C move (3.5 sec cool down)

    • @yououttapocket
      @yououttapocket Год назад

      @@sanic1st it would be obvious it's not the F move because you don't move during it. the problem with a rush attack is it doesn't solve his current issues. Untargetability is the worst thing you can give any character in any game, horrible design. we could nerf the windup time easily

  • @mmrporgbest9141
    @mmrporgbest9141 Год назад +3

    Old is better than new

  • @googletest9217
    @googletest9217 11 месяцев назад

    i think current tatara still good since there's ejector countering ginkui's kinda taugh ik because there's still a chances one way to escape those plenty full combos it
    has to be dash back then F G
    dashing back with F it's kinda different just gonna say it's quicker than the normal doing dashing forward with F
    believe me or not others already saw that idk maybe a bug speed or somethin'

  • @xarchy4104
    @xarchy4104 Год назад +1

    Swagger

  • @Kohuvi
    @Kohuvi Год назад +1

    no shot ikea was ina vid??

  • @voidkingdoms0568
    @voidkingdoms0568 9 месяцев назад

    Didn’t the circle of flames close in at some point? (Or I’m I remembering it wrong)

    • @denizseyhan1053
      @denizseyhan1053 8 месяцев назад

      It did but they nerfed it as well even though Tatara is unfun and trash. Alex doesn't know how to balance and rework stuff some of the time.

  • @aceidk1040
    @aceidk1040 3 месяца назад

    im still waiting for the ayato

  • @NoName-hb4cq
    @NoName-hb4cq Год назад +1

    Can you make a video about sss owl next?

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад

      That would be hard for me because Owl is a very complicated Quinque. Maybe I can talk about how it was gutted and nerfed and if Owl should get an update.

    • @NoName-hb4cq
      @NoName-hb4cq Год назад

      @@Zierar That's what i meant ty

  • @PocHo784_XV
    @PocHo784_XV Год назад +2

    old tata is more good in my experience, i love it

  • @vik9654
    @vik9654 Год назад +1

    Bro uploaded after 600k years nah im joking bro straight up bullied me when i was on naru 😭

  • @Matthew-Cote24
    @Matthew-Cote24 Год назад +1

    The F now becomes a smash move because the old one is really hard to aim

    • @Matthew-Cote24
      @Matthew-Cote24 Год назад +1

      Yeah the new one just made it worst next to the removal of the passive self ignition(C move)

  • @zaldyc.galinta4785
    @zaldyc.galinta4785 Год назад +3

    Cur tata: good design big skill hitbox terrible at pvp you could get outclasses easily
    Old tata: decent design (cur is better) small hitbox for E & R (but old R dmg is better) Good 4 pvp as the f's with a combination of ejector helps alot can counter other users, (can also be countered)

  • @Zesty20
    @Zesty20 Год назад +1

    is that really a rogue?

  • @Aya_Sakura
    @Aya_Sakura Год назад

    New tatara range op ;-;

  • @kokushiboutsugikuni1334
    @kokushiboutsugikuni1334 Год назад +2

    there wasnt even any need to rework tatara it was good imo

  • @marktv1064
    @marktv1064 Год назад

    How did you use old tatara

  • @Straatman20
    @Straatman20 Год назад

    He should just add tatak2 and make it the old tatara

  • @_shadow_6330
    @_shadow_6330 10 месяцев назад +1

    Pederista on YT i know this guy if he's your friend say hello to him from Shadow.
    Also for me old tatara was better too i liked the F and C move mostly

  • @jay-rramos106
    @jay-rramos106 Год назад

    The rework is okay which my brother always still maining it.
    Edit: i think current tatara way passive rn

  • @randomman000
    @randomman000 9 месяцев назад +1

    I actually like old fire more, it looks better

  • @Wide_Frisk04180
    @Wide_Frisk04180 Год назад

    i miss old tatara

  • @monke9316
    @monke9316 Год назад

    I think Tatara's F is a joke. It's the only poop mouv he has but i think he would probably be a good kagune in duel and teamfight aswell if it has a new F

  • @Nullanxiety
    @Nullanxiety 4 месяца назад +1

    I like having 3 tataras just spamming E

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  3 месяца назад

      We love lagging servers with Tatara

  • @simple2509
    @simple2509 Год назад +1

    all it needs is the old f, the c is not needed

  • @nine3731
    @nine3731 Год назад +2

    do this for owl and ixa since ik a lot of people we're divided the same way when they both were reworked/nerfed

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад +2

      I'm planning to do an IXA review in the future

    • @jay-rramos106
      @jay-rramos106 Год назад

      @@Zierar btw is ixa mode 1 got nerf because the F skills like strait up?

  • @SupertonicLady
    @SupertonicLady 8 месяцев назад

    straight up removing a good ability and not giving a low dps high AOE kakuja at least a high damage grab was definitely... a choice..

  • @Toshio952
    @Toshio952 Год назад +1

    Yah i could say that Tatarak1 before is better i want a revert

  • @georgerivero2204
    @georgerivero2204 Год назад +1

    TATARA ENJOYER🗿

  • @trickymelly1525
    @trickymelly1525 Год назад

    breh all they should of done was just fix the leg and damage tat would be cool

  • @erickoavenada969
    @erickoavenada969 Год назад

    Until now the C still empty😑

  • @hatewew1151
    @hatewew1151 Год назад +2

    I always said it and I always will say it, the old tatara was better

  • @ogosama2583
    @ogosama2583 Год назад

    I want back old tatara this rework is kinda Bad :/

  • @Joelistic_Tondo
    @Joelistic_Tondo Год назад +1

    Pls alex change tatara's F

  • @Ennygma
    @Ennygma 3 месяца назад +2

    13:00 name musica bro ?

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  3 месяца назад +1

      Windmill Isle (Day) - Sonic Unleashed [OST] - ruclips.net/video/2b8TKhIz_ZY/видео.html&ab_channel=DeoxysPrime

    • @Ennygma
      @Ennygma 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Zierar nice bro

  • @ignacio_verdugo
    @ignacio_verdugo Год назад +1

    Tatara fried my pc

  • @xdgamer0189
    @xdgamer0189 Год назад

    Only good moves of current tat is e and r thats all ya got rn it isnt worth 150 yen at all more like 1 million yen

  • @ArisuBW
    @ArisuBW Год назад

    Old tatara was the best kagune for 1v2 1v3 but after rework tatara become trash. slowly, without damage trash

  • @MrBryanVillegas
    @MrBryanVillegas Год назад +1

    EVERYONE F IN THE COMMENTS HERE IF YOU MISS THE OLD TATARA!!!

  • @T00KD
    @T00KD Год назад +2

    old better F and C better

  • @ventqi
    @ventqi Год назад +1

    I SAW ME!!!!

    • @Zierar
      @Zierar  Год назад +2

      who u

    • @vik9654
      @vik9654 Год назад +1

      ven lets talk about food

    • @momokomono9703
      @momokomono9703 Год назад +1

      i saw me too, very swag

    • @ventqi
      @ventqi Год назад +2

      @@Zierar big bad naru user how about you

    • @ventqi
      @ventqi Год назад +1

      @@vik9654 ok

  • @andreyi69
    @andreyi69 Год назад +1

    Old tatara solos

  • @mentallyunstable684
    @mentallyunstable684 Год назад +1

    Tatara update was one of the worst sushi has ever made, gave the hability to crash servers with the amount of lag, the F is worse and apply an permanent white pants was horrible too
    IMO - Sushi is destroying roghoul, 2020 roghoul > 2021-2022+ roghoul

  • @virtsonsyou9007
    @virtsonsyou9007 Год назад +1

    tatara users when they cant run 3 laps around the map and then just turn around and press F to win:

  • @Krunchier
    @Krunchier Год назад

    old tatara just claps 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @Crafty747
    @Crafty747 Год назад

    I mean alex has fucked up his game the most fuck up for me us godzilla and tat rework

  • @aolengaoleng1137
    @aolengaoleng1137 Год назад +1

    Ln

  • @Salt4567
    @Salt4567 Год назад

    I USED TO DAMN MAIN OLD TATARA NOW ITS TRASH AF

  • @maskpedestrian3135
    @maskpedestrian3135 Год назад

    bad rework, should've reworked something more intense, like T-Human

  • @zelbournyx
    @zelbournyx Год назад

    Nah retatara is suck than before (true)

  • @marceloribeiro4640
    @marceloribeiro4640 Год назад

    Nooo

  • @callmeplayer8185
    @callmeplayer8185 Год назад

    Nope

  • @user-zk1ly5xm7d
    @user-zk1ly5xm7d 2 месяца назад

    Goofy ahh rework

  • @Supreme_being45
    @Supreme_being45 7 месяцев назад

    2023 tatara is just garbage

  • @Gab_ZXk
    @Gab_ZXk 3 месяца назад

    Trash rework