Police Dept Dumps Entire Fleet of Durangos Due To Engine Failures

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    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 День назад +3

      A little advice, don't sell a fleet of defective vehicles to the police because they may look at you for fraud.

    • @BroncoNegurski
      @BroncoNegurski День назад +1

      Aftermarket Oil Coolers are very straight forward affairs. I've installed several over the years.. this wasn't splitting the atom.

    • @rodx5571
      @rodx5571 День назад +2

      Does lehto slaw have pineapple?

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  • @ChillyJack
    @ChillyJack День назад +817

    Big corporations have fully transitioned from "too big to fail" to "too big to care".

    • @dough9512
      @dough9512 День назад +14

      Research "Jack Welch"!

    • @LugborG
      @LugborG День назад +44

      How long until we finally decide they're too big to exist?

    • @donwyoming1936
      @donwyoming1936 День назад

      This is really a case of a couple of Police chiefs who don't like Ford, going out & buying a far less capable vehicle from a manufacturer they personally like. The claim it was a supply chain issue is just them covering their own rear ends.

    • @schwarzerritter5724
      @schwarzerritter5724 День назад +31

      It is hard to care when you know you are going to get bailed out.

    • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
      @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket День назад

      @@LugborG I'm fine with big corporations, as long as they're a non-profit operating for public benefit. Otherwise I'm ready to ban them, or whatever else it might take.

  • @user-BigDog68
    @user-BigDog68 22 часа назад +98

    If they treat the government that bought 516 units at $50G's is $25,800,000 like this, imagine how they treat 1 guy that buys 1 Durango?

    • @donh6416
      @donh6416 18 часов назад +13

      Let me answer your question.....like sh!t.

    • @user-BigDog68
      @user-BigDog68 16 часов назад +2

      @@donh6416 I was thinking - "like shit" would be the comforting feeling you would feel when ending that relationship.

    • @donh6416
      @donh6416 16 часов назад +2

      @@user-BigDog68 I was thinking more like what's left in the porcelain bowl. A flush to get rid of it.

    • @DiscussionsWithEkmel
      @DiscussionsWithEkmel 7 часов назад +1

      They treat their workers just as bad. Their plant in Northern Illinois was shut down to convert from motor vehicles to electric vehicles. There are arguments that they have delayed the re-opening of the plant on purpose and their Union workers have been protesting Stellantis the last few weeks.

    • @geoffh1
      @geoffh1 3 часа назад

      As Steve states in the video, the individual is covered by Lemon Law. So they'd probably get a lot better result than the police chief.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 День назад +480

    "We sell a vehicle that has a serious design flaw. Its complicated, not so easy to fix. Bear with us."
    I wonder if Chrysler and Boeing are being run by the same management.

    • @DaveBigDawg
      @DaveBigDawg День назад +34

      But it is an easy fix
      The part that is failing is made out of plastic and the aftermarket has an upgraded parts made of aluminum

    • @dough9512
      @dough9512 День назад +20

      Thank Jack Welch of GE fame for this problem. The higher-ups in most corporations don't see a problem!!

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад +8

      Chicago Bean Counters ???

    • @donwyoming1936
      @donwyoming1936 День назад +2

      ​@DaveBigDawg Yes, but a car manufacturer just can't put aftermarket parts on their cars without being fully tested. What if the aftermarket part fails too? Then they have a bigger mess.

    • @alanmacification
      @alanmacification День назад +2

      Yes, they are.

  • @scottmahanes9248
    @scottmahanes9248 День назад +23

    I'm more and more convinced that Stellantis is just trying to drive Chrysler corporation into the ground. The prices of Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, and Ram vehicles has skyrocketed under Stellantis, while the quality has gone downhill, and customer service has gone with it. It's rumored that Stellantis has been trying to sell off the Chrysler brand, and if that's the case they would certainly have zero interest in helping anyone with lemon or warranty claims.

  • @CraigGrant-sh3in
    @CraigGrant-sh3in День назад +375

    The oil cooler problem is that it is cheap plasic junk. There is an aluminum after market cooler that solves the problem.

    • @studmeister1977
      @studmeister1977 День назад +21

      I had to replace mine on my 2012 Grand Caravan. I ended up replacing the intake gaskets, too because to get at the cooler, you have to take the intakes completely off. It could've been designed with better materials.

    • @ChrisL-oz4lp
      @ChrisL-oz4lp День назад +9

      As Steve pointed out.....Warranty issues.

    • @perryelyod4870
      @perryelyod4870 День назад +11

      @@studmeister1977 While you're in there. . .

    • @tamreeve3487
      @tamreeve3487 День назад +42

      Actually the problem isn't the cooler, we purchased 19 Rams for our fleet, huge mistake as we have replaced or rebuilt 11 of the motors already, not one over 100k miles. The problem is the head design, it does not move enough oil when starting up, why Ram says run 0w-30w oil. Every single failure same issue, oil starved lifters eat the cam.

    • @ronhall3686
      @ronhall3686 День назад +16

      @@tamreeve3487 The problem gets worse with long idle times on patrol units.

  • @oldgold4truth166
    @oldgold4truth166 21 час назад +27

    The oil cooler design on the Durango is horrible! It's a plastic housing that easily warps if engine overheats, or simple oil changes can crack the cooler if the oil filter cap (oil filter is inside the cooler housing) is it tightened to much! There is an aftermarket upgrade for the housing which is made of aluminum, not plastic. But the cooler is located underneath the lower intake plenum, making the job a bit costly!

    • @kevinvilmont6061
      @kevinvilmont6061 11 часов назад +2

      Plenum?! Are you a mechanic or a professor? Sounds like both.

    • @tekelupharsin4426
      @tekelupharsin4426 8 часов назад

      It sounds like they should have stuck with the Chargers. They'd be hard pressed to ever find a replacement as good as the Crown Vics, but the Chargers are generally well regarded. I have a 2014 Charger Interceptor 5.7L HEMI that was a fugitive recovery agency's vehicle (so he left it in a much better condition than a typical state trooper would). I love that thing and it's still going strong at 156k miles (no knocking on the lifters or anything of the sort). It's fun watching everybody slow down when they see me and I generally don't have very many people passing me on the Interstate since I kept the antennas and spotlight on the vehicle (I need to buy the bull bar for it though - I know exactly what one it had since the mounts are still there).
      As a fun aside, my family has a history of taking vehicles to high mileages, so 156k is actually quite low for us. My brother has a 1990 Chevy 1500 with 800k miles on it. He also has a 2013 Toyota Tacoma with 300k miles. My dad has a 1997 Ford F-150 with 350k miles. I also have a 1994 Isuzu Pickup with 268k miles. My uncle had an old diesel Mercedes that he took to 1.2 million miles before his stupid drunk daughter totaled it.

    • @daviddover4563
      @daviddover4563 5 часов назад +1

      @@kevinvilmont6061 Yes, lower intake manifold plenum. It's a well known issue with the v6 engine. Thousands of Jeep owners can tell you all about it. Very common issue.

    • @kevinvilmont6061
      @kevinvilmont6061 5 часов назад

      @@daviddover4563 Thanks!
      Knowledgeable and a nice guy . Dual threat! Have a great weekend:😊

  • @bradleysmith2021
    @bradleysmith2021 День назад +226

    Stellantis saved money by eliminating the R&D department.
    They let customers do that now.

    • @Matt-uj9wl
      @Matt-uj9wl День назад +7

      If by stelantis, you mean all auto and truck manufacturers, then yes you are correct.

    • @thebigdawg61
      @thebigdawg61 День назад +1

      I just assumed they turned it over to Fiat.

    • @bradleysmith2021
      @bradleysmith2021 День назад +5

      @@Matt-uj9wl I've NEVER seen a Toyota product that needed multiple suspension components replaced with less than 60k miles on the clock.
      It's ROUTINE with Chrysler products.

    • @sp1nrx
      @sp1nrx День назад +3

      ahhhh.... The Microsoft business model....

    • @Matt-uj9wl
      @Matt-uj9wl День назад +7

      @@bradleysmith2021 Chryslers have had garbage suspensions for 50 or 60 years. I dont understand why they don't just copy a different manufacturer instead of attempting to reinvent the wheel.
      However Toyota is slacking on their R + D as well. Google the problems with the new gen tacoma's and tundra's.

  • @TheCaptainmojo1973
    @TheCaptainmojo1973 День назад +23

    Very few manufacturers actually making quality products any longer. Planned obsolescence is their primary design philosophy.

    • @duckpwnd
      @duckpwnd День назад +9

      Companies used to proud to make quality products that would last decades (and often times at a good price). Now, they make expensive plastic electronic trash that's destined for a landfill in 5 to 10 years.

    • @lowermichigan4437
      @lowermichigan4437 22 часа назад +3

      They are skipping testing and we are buying the test beds to help debug their crap

  • @jimdavis6833
    @jimdavis6833 День назад +126

    As an old Mopar guy, I wouldn't touch anything made by Stellantis with a 20 foot pole. RIP Chrysler.

    • @obaniehia
      @obaniehia День назад +1

      I mean, i still like limited modern years First gen Durango 05 and newer(11) Dakota but i would still choose to do a cummins engine swap and what not. it's just the body styles i like any more.

    • @ShovelMonkey
      @ShovelMonkey День назад +3

      68 Barracuda here!

    • @ericbitzer5247
      @ericbitzer5247 День назад +2

      I know, I loved Mopar. Stellantis ruined them. I would take anything with a pre 74 440.

    • @bobmorgan1575
      @bobmorgan1575 День назад +5

      The last good Mopar product I had was a 1981 Reliant. The very last Mopar product I will ever own was a 2001 Intrepid. That thing was a disaster on wheels.

    • @jimdavis6833
      @jimdavis6833 День назад +4

      @@ShovelMonkey Mine's a 1998 Dodge 1500 Laramie extended cab, 5.9 magnum V8. Mileage sucks but I love my truck.

  • @clbcl5
    @clbcl5 День назад +15

    Known issue with the oil coolers since they were made of plastic. The after market fix is all aluminum. Simple but time consuming fix since they are under the intake manifold. The issue is either external crack that leaks oil or internal were the oil and coolant mix.

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 День назад +384

    No vehicle will beat the reliability of the Crown Vic PI

    • @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
      @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 День назад +37

      They were dead reliable. Even years after auctioning off , those things were driving everywhere.

    • @DoubleDoubleWithOnions
      @DoubleDoubleWithOnions День назад

      @@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 I just gave my 2000 Crown Vic. to my nephew. Still running, everything works. AC, heater, radio, electric seats.

    • @JamesonThe1
      @JamesonThe1 День назад +20

      One lives a few houses from me. It's in pristine condition. Will outlast any vehicle I currently own.

    • @ClumsyRoot
      @ClumsyRoot День назад +13

      So true! A lot of decommissioned PIs get a second life as taxis.

    • @59phonebone
      @59phonebone День назад +8

      I had a ‘91 Crown Vic former CHP cruiser. Great car.

  • @aurtisanminer2827
    @aurtisanminer2827 19 часов назад +14

    15k miles?? That’s pathetic no matter how they’re run.

  • @KenCobourne
    @KenCobourne День назад +92

    When you see the word Dodge, that's what you should do!😆

    • @ronkennedy213
      @ronkennedy213 День назад +6

      Yup it’s not a name, it’s a warning

    • @walkingman9171
      @walkingman9171 22 часа назад +2

      You might have to RAM it out of the way.

    • @ivechang6720
      @ivechang6720 22 часа назад +1

      Dodge van accident: Chassis broke and passengers all hurt but the bumper survived the rear end collision just fine. I wish that was a lie or an exaggeration.

    • @indolentcheese
      @indolentcheese 2 часа назад

      There has got to be good acronym for Dodge like the is for Ford(Fix Or Repair Daily). Haven't heard or seen one. Any takers?

    • @ivechang6720
      @ivechang6720 Час назад +1

      @@indolentcheese Dodge... The E is long not silent.

  • @1onelyone
    @1onelyone День назад +42

    His first mistake was getting a Dodge! 😉

    • @nightrunnerxm393
      @nightrunnerxm393 16 часов назад +2

      It got rammed through the committee...

    • @1onelyone
      @1onelyone 12 часов назад +1

      @@nightrunnerxm393 I seen what you did there.😂😂

    • @sheehy933
      @sheehy933 10 часов назад +1

      @@nightrunnerxm393 Dodge.... Charged too much and Challenging to keep them running. A real Hornets nest.

  • @brtltbgcty
    @brtltbgcty День назад +242

    I ran a cab company for years. 185 vehicles on the road. Every Chrysler product was junk and we had many crown vics make it to 500k to 600k before they were so clapped out we had to kill them off. I hate that everything today including cars are disposable.

    • @thomasbrown7728
      @thomasbrown7728 День назад +19

      And ,, Pay More, get Less

    • @jonathanjones3126
      @jonathanjones3126 День назад +9

      How many times has Chrysler been bailed out?

    • @eugenefirebird8938
      @eugenefirebird8938 День назад +9

      Thanks Louie De-palma. ha ha ha But really you are so right. I have had two Lincoln Town cars for the past 30 years. 4.6 liter Ford is one of the best and most reliable engines ever made. I can attest to that

    • @saddestchord7622
      @saddestchord7622 День назад +8

      Chrysler has been probably the worst major auto manufacturer on Earth for decades.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 День назад +4

      Too much plastic, to manage weight, but of course, that greatly detracts from durability. Finite resources and continual population rising has huge costs over time.

  • @matraz10
    @matraz10 21 час назад +8

    Dodge didn't call and offer to fix it because there is no solution. They just ignored it and released a new engine. The oil cooler/oil filter housing looks like it would be inserted into the block, but it doesn't. It just sits on top of the block with o-ring gaskets being compressed, acting as the oil barrier to stop oil from leaking out. Also, it is an aluminum block with a plastic oil filter housing and an aluminum oil cooler on top. All of that in the valley of the cylinders.

  • @dougbotimer8005
    @dougbotimer8005 День назад +132

    Selling Chargers to flee from police is a more profitable market than police vehicles.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 День назад +1

      Nonsense, since you count outrun a radio and the ensuing roadblocks.
      But for people who value speed over reliability, sure.

    • @dougbotimer8005
      @dougbotimer8005 День назад +11

      @@rogergeyer9851 Sarcasm went right over your head, didn’t it?

    • @TBonerton
      @TBonerton День назад +4

      There is no contract more precious than a police fleet contract. Get your head out of your butt, most cars on the road are financed. PDs actually buy the vehicles and don't need to be chased down for payment.

    • @e1bo
      @e1bo 23 часа назад +3

      ​@rogergeyer9851 always that one NPC replying like a bot 😂

    • @gradertfamilymakes
      @gradertfamilymakes 21 час назад

      They are sold to criminals. They steal them.

  • @harryd9782
    @harryd9782 День назад +10

    They put the oil cooler on the bottom of the engine near the center. That makes sense to Stellanis; the rest of us would put it, oh, I don’t know, in front of the radiator where it can catch air and stuff…😮

    • @new2000car
      @new2000car 23 часа назад +3

      Yes, and imagine keeping the oil cooler separate, so you don’t get coolant mixed in if it fails? $5 per car? Similar to the chevy trax putting the timing chain in the oil bath area. Or the ford explorer burying the water pump. Each shortcut saves the manufacturer $5 but costs the customer $3000 (+/- 50%) and often totals the vehicle. I wouldn’t mind if the vehicle went 200,000 or 300k miles then these issues came up, as the manufacturer could claim that everything else is shot so time to junk it.

    • @randyemerson8407
      @randyemerson8407 10 часов назад

      @@new2000car the biggest failure with these coolers is that they leak like a sieve. Not saying it can't happen, but I haven't personally seen that type of failure.

  • @your_royal_highness
    @your_royal_highness День назад +215

    Wait! Stellantis makes shitty cars? What a shock! 🙄

    • @chcarroll5164
      @chcarroll5164 День назад +15

      Chrysler made shit long before Fiat and Stellantis entered the picture. Daimler learned a hard lesson.

    • @AlteredCarbons
      @AlteredCarbons День назад +8

      *shocked pikachu face*

    • @krtacct
      @krtacct День назад +8

      ⁠@@chcarroll5164yeah, mercedes thought they would bring Chrysler up, instead chrysler dragged them down.

    • @alanmcentee9457
      @alanmcentee9457 День назад +6

      I have long held that Chrysler made very pretty cars but their reliability just sucked.
      I remember talking to a Chrysler dealer mechanic in the late 1970s. He was complaining they had so much warranty work because of stupid things. And they were the same things. When Chrysler was facing bankruptcy a couple of years later, that was why. All their profit was going back to pay for the shit they sold.

    • @macgyver03ga
      @macgyver03ga День назад

      They have built trash vehicles for decades. I’m surprised people still buy the crap they manufacture.

  • @moparman1962
    @moparman1962 22 часа назад +7

    ALL police/law enforcement PATROL vehicles should come equipped FROM THE FACTORY with HUGE, OVERSIZED, HIGH-CAPACITY, HEAVY DUTY engine oil pans AND also HUGE, OVERSIZED, HIGH-CAPACITY, HEAVY DUTY aluminum engine oil coolers with quality fittings and high pressure hoses, period!

    • @geoffh1
      @geoffh1 3 часа назад

      No factory would do that. Police vehicles are modified for their needs after they leave the factory.

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 День назад +213

    The Crown Vic was the best police car ever made. The Panther platform was almost indestructible. They were reliable and stood up to the abuse so well that they would be bought up by taxi companies. I've seen both Crown Vics and Town Cars with over 500k miles on their odometers and they keep on running. There's a reason that some police departments bought a bunch of Crown Vics at the end of their production.

    • @CraigGrant-sh3in
      @CraigGrant-sh3in День назад +30

      The LA County Sheriff's department bought several hundred extra Vics in 2011. They still have about 300 waiting to go into service

    • @dawlben2247
      @dawlben2247 День назад +9

      Still see some from 90s still in use

    • @mcpheonixx
      @mcpheonixx День назад +15

      They had a Time tested, rugged, reliable, somewhat cost effective platform. Why have that when they could sell LE departments a costly, hunk of shit that they could make more money. Of course they ended the CV.

    • @kitdinker
      @kitdinker День назад +10

      Hey, hey, hey. Lat's give the Mercury Grand Marquis some love.

    • @DebraGill
      @DebraGill День назад +4

      I had a fury when I was young, not bad itself.

  • @billfargo9616
    @billfargo9616 День назад +8

    There's a reason why towtruck drivers call Explorers, Exploders.

    • @Keaton0801
      @Keaton0801 День назад +2

      This is dodge. Ford isn’t as bad when it comes to their explorers. It used to be the other way around, but at least the oil cooler on an eco boost is aluminum last time I checked. The engines still blow up due to other reasons, but it isn’t the oil cooler. The Ford Ecoboost is known as the “Ford EcoBoom” for a reason. Again, that reason isn’t the oil cooler. It’s a design flaw in the block. The ecoboost block is very small, even for a normal V6. It’s an aluminum block, and it fails all the time since the aluminum cannot handle the power being put through it by the turbos. Thus, bye bye engine block, and you need a new motor.

    • @jimster1111
      @jimster1111 День назад

      @@Keaton0801 i have a FPIU (explorer) and honestly theres alot of issues that theyve found over the last couple of generations. the 2013-2019 had an internal water pump design that would leak by 100-150k miles and would blow up the engine. it costs 2000-3000$ to replace the waterpump because its behind the timing chain inside of the engine.
      then theres the power transfer units because theyre AWD. these like to prematurely wear out and may need replacement as soon as 100k miles. thousands to replace.
      then theres the transmissions on the 2020-2024 versions that are pretty weak and they like to crap out prematurely. also thousands to replace.
      and finally we have the turbos. everyone likes to boast about how fast the explorers are but the only fast explorers are the twin turbo versions. the stock ford turbos burn oil past the turbo seals within the first 100k miles. ive also heard of them prematurely wearing within the first 200k miles. even detonating and destroying the catalytic converters. the OEM turbos are big money too. replacement can cost thousands.
      i have the twin turbo AWD version with the internal water pump. i do like the vehicle but i cant exactly rely on it as my only vehicle as its not bullet proof like the crown vics. the explorers are harder to work on and the parts cost alot more. whereas my crown vic really is bulletproof with pretty much any repair being possible in a home garage with handtools within a day. not so much with the explorer

    • @sabrehawk-427
      @sabrehawk-427 День назад +1

      ​@@Keaton0801cast iron blocks are a lot better for boosted engines but then there's head gaskets issues if it doesn't have reverse flow coolant system

  • @TRS-80Fanclub
    @TRS-80Fanclub День назад +79

    Dodge, "We exceed the standard" 15k miles later, poof. Ford Crown Vic, "Hold my beer" 400k miles later, leeess go.

    • @scott6809
      @scott6809 День назад +2

      Previous CoCo 1,2 ,3 owner here.. great username! 😉

  • @Gijeff69
    @Gijeff69 День назад +7

    Stalintis is a Chinese owned Corporation.
    I’ve been a professional AutoTechnician Mechanic 30+ years now. I was a Ford and Chrysler dealership technician throughout the 90’s. I run my own shop now and I am making huge money fixing ALL these piles of crap. The main issue I’m seeing are Camshaft lobes being wiped out by the rocker arms. If your dodge/chrysler sounds like a sewing machine that’s the issue!😂😂😂😂
    @SteveLehto ALL Durangos are huge piles of crap.

    • @stevec3526
      @stevec3526 День назад +3

      Stellantis is headquartered in Hoofddorp, Netherlands and is not Chinese.

    • @Gijeff69
      @Gijeff69 День назад

      @@stevec3526 Do your research. Stalantis is owned by the Chinese, higher up the food chain.

    • @Gijeff69
      @Gijeff69 День назад

      @@stevec3526 Regardless of who owns them, they’re still HUUUGE pieces of CRAP.
      We’re making money on these at ALL the Professional shops.
      Most have under 100,000 miles. I currently have a 2018 Durango, with less than 80,000 miles and the rocker arms chewed through 1/8”-3/16” of material from the cam lobes on the 3.6L Pentastar engine. Absolute garbage.

    • @davidm8717
      @davidm8717 22 часа назад +2

      @@Gijeff69 nope, "Rumors have been circulating in the automotive world that Chinese automaker BYD is eyeing a potential acquisition of Chrysler, one of the iconic brands under Stellantis. Both companies have publicly denied these claims, with BYD going as far as labeling the reports as “fake news” on their official Weibo account." Mopar Insider 8/24

  • @tysleight
    @tysleight День назад +58

    My wife's Stalantis minivan had the same oil cooler blow up near Yellowstone this summer.

    • @ChrisL-oz4lp
      @ChrisL-oz4lp День назад +3

      Dodge Journey or Chrysler Pacifica?

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka День назад +3

      I rented a Pacifica for my trip there last year, it did pretty well on a 2500 mile two week trip.
      It was a plug in hybrid, maybe that helped since the first ~17 miles were all electric...

    • @seathrunmagaoinghous4119
      @seathrunmagaoinghous4119 День назад +3

      @@ChrisL-oz4lp our journey had three motor failures under warranty

    • @tysleight
      @tysleight День назад +1

      @@xiaoka that is hers and she loves it. It is a 2023 with 22,000 miles. Also a hybrid.

  • @wendwllhickey6426
    @wendwllhickey6426 День назад +4

    To much plastic on engines can't handle the heat .

  • @GeorgeOswald-e4s
    @GeorgeOswald-e4s День назад +34

    Oil Cooler issue is hard to detect? The factory produces the part out of a polymer. The after market replacement is made out of aluminium. It is a known issue, Stellantis!

    • @jonathanjones3126
      @jonathanjones3126 День назад +4

      Plastic is junk when used in a engine

    • @JHe-f9t
      @JHe-f9t День назад +4

      It's very hard to detect an issue when you ignore basic common sense during design, then refuse to test the finished product, and then stick your head in the sand when failures start happening.

  • @aurtisanminer2827
    @aurtisanminer2827 19 часов назад +3

    $50k is low for a Durango?? Like fuck it is! I’ll never pay that for one of those!

  • @mikezupancic2182
    @mikezupancic2182 День назад +77

    Freaking Chrapsler products. They're junk in the Jeep Cherokee models as well.

    • @xcalibertrekker6693
      @xcalibertrekker6693 День назад +6

      Have been for as long as i remember. They are to big to fail so let us bail them out repeatedly.

    • @mikezupancic2182
      @mikezupancic2182 День назад +4

      @xcalibertrekker6693 used to just be transmissions and brakes. Now engines too.

    • @sarajuanaict
      @sarajuanaict День назад +2

      Total junk

    • @DinDooIt
      @DinDooIt День назад +2

      The only one woth anything is the older 4 liter straight six ones.

    • @obaniehia
      @obaniehia День назад

      had a 2012 JGC never really had a problem with it. outside of some prick slashing a tire.

  • @galeclay8907
    @galeclay8907 День назад +2

    Sorry I blame the dealership, they knew what the vehicle's were going to be used for and properly upgraded them 😮😮😂❤

  • @12799MaDeuce
    @12799MaDeuce День назад +34

    PA State Police are experiencing the exact same issues with their new Durangos

    • @derkaderkaduh
      @derkaderkaduh 23 часа назад +1

      IN State Police as well. I read a story recently that something like 90% of their Durangos were down because of it.

    • @lowermichigan4437
      @lowermichigan4437 22 часа назад +1

      This needs to be made public. It will get the attention of Dodge. Maybe

  • @24juan68
    @24juan68 День назад +7

    Should’ve bought a fleet of Toyota

    • @lowermichigan4437
      @lowermichigan4437 22 часа назад

      Which one? Not the V6 that is being replaced in 100,000s of trucks.
      Toyota has fewer problems, but if they do, they tend to blame the owner 1st

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 8 часов назад

      Toyota doesn’t sell any pursuit rated vehicles.

  • @eddiehuff7366
    @eddiehuff7366 День назад +38

    Good 'ol Crown Vics w/ carbureted(yes later were fuel injected), pushrod, non-turbo 'old timey' tech were used for 30 years on police forces for years for good reason. It was not unusual for them to go 400k miles with good maintenance.

    • @dough9512
      @dough9512 День назад +9

      EPA "fixed" THAT problem!!

    • @howebrad4601
      @howebrad4601 День назад +1

      Since 1992 all crown vics were overhead cam, not pushrod

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 23 часа назад +2

      I don't think the crown Victoria was ever carburetated. The LTD crown victoria was probably carburated it's first year, 1980 but the rest were fuel injected all the way to 1991.

    • @babaoreally8220
      @babaoreally8220 4 часа назад

      Crown Vic was never carbureted,nor pushrod equipped.They were injected SOHC 4.6L engines.There were some that were fitted with the TEKSID 32 valve DOHC from the Lincoln and Mach 1 Mustang.I owned a new one in 2002.I was surprised to see this engine in it with 32 VALVE on the silver valve cover.Had an LX Sport,which may be the reason for this engine installed.

  • @quantumss
    @quantumss День назад +2

    Surprise, somebody finally figured out what dodges are, junk. All one has to do is research.

  • @coldlogic800
    @coldlogic800 День назад +87

    I am not aware of which cooler the police built Durangos use. That said, the plastic oil cooler that Stellantis has been using on their regular vehicles like the pentastar 3.6l is not good. To be clear, the cooler is metal but the housing that all the oil and lots of coolant flows through in the middle of that engine is plastic. Dorman and others make a metal update.

    • @stevelehto
      @stevelehto  День назад +39

      Ah yes, PLASTIC. Sounds like a great idea.

    • @Terran.Marine.2
      @Terran.Marine.2 День назад +1

      /s

    • @jamesonmiller8283
      @jamesonmiller8283 День назад +7

      I suppose they can't replace their cooler with the all metal one, as that would concede a design issue.

    • @JasonW.
      @JasonW. День назад +14

      Just like the plastic coolant elbow of the GM 3.8 series II
      If Dorman is making a better part, you need to rethink where you save pennies

    • @dennislink7957
      @dennislink7957 День назад +6

      We had a 2001 VW Jetta. Fabulous car, except half the engine was plastic. Thermostat housing, internal timing chain guides, radiator housing, all failed during our ownership. Totaling the repairs, they cost more than we paid for the car. I would never buy another VW product. Went from one of the most reliable car ever built to one of the least!

  • @lunatik9696
    @lunatik9696 День назад +2

    Stellantis is bleeding.
    They acquired many low performing car companies and ran them into the ground.
    Unfortunately, most of these companies previous polices sucked so bad, ppl slowed buying them.
    Chrysler has 3 models that ppl like, the minivan, the 300 and Jeep.

    • @rivjoy
      @rivjoy День назад

      Not for long if they keep building junk. I've owned three Dodge Caravans which were very reliable, my fourth however with the 3.6 V6 is a pain. Roller lifters which die for no reason, brake calipers that freeze up regularly, fuel pump relay that's has a short life and is permanently attached to a $1000 circuit board. I haven't had trouble with the notorious oil cooler but I'm keeping an eye on it.

  • @28ebdh3udnav
    @28ebdh3udnav День назад +26

    Another example of profits over quality.

  • @tjsynkral
    @tjsynkral Час назад +1

    Maybe they should have bought vehicles actually made in Indiana. Subaru and Toyota have a better reputation for not breaking down.

  • @D__Lee
    @D__Lee День назад +28

    Years ago, my company purchased a dozen Dodge Shadow as our fleet pool cars. After about 30,000 miles, the Dodge Shadow's head gasket began to leak needing replacement. The company's fleet manager learned that Dodge had sent an advisory notice to its service dealers that this was a known problem with the Dodge Shadow, but if the cars were out-of-warranty, the owners were responsible for the repair cost. The company's fleet manager was pissed and dumped all the Dodge Shadow and replaced with Honda and Toyota. The company fleet manager was incredulous when the local Dodge fleet sales manager complained directly to the company's president that no Dodge cars were even considers.

    • @cityofoaks
      @cityofoaks 19 часов назад +4

      Dodge = to avoid

  • @d89taurus
    @d89taurus 19 часов назад +2

    Should have stuck with FORD!

  • @Giants4641
    @Giants4641 День назад +48

    Would anyone expect less from a car company. It's like dealing with a cable company ......they just don't care

    • @tournamentmaster2000
      @tournamentmaster2000 День назад

      If it sells regardless of issues, why would they care? It's not right

    • @thecableguy1128
      @thecableguy1128 День назад

      Not all cable companies are as bad as you think. It depends on what the situation is and how much the technician is committed to doing what needs to be done.

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад +3

      @@thecableguy1128 Due to their consistent hap-hazard installation practices, I will not deal with ANY TV cable company.

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 День назад

      My "cable" company were criminals. Automatically discontinuing my affordable plan and billing me double. Turned off paper billing and turned on auto billing so I couldn't easily ditch them and wouldn't easily know what I was being charged. Then eliminated my only channel I watched. I call up to quit, they transfer me to the guy who's there only to prevent me from quitting. He says it will take 5 minutes to get my information 😂. Asks why I am quitting, he then reprograms my missing channel on my account and then gaslights me by asking me to check my receiver. Sure enough, westerns playing again. I knew I wasn't crazy, I scanned every channel three times previously looking for it. I told him I still wanted to quit, I had gotten Wi-fi again and gone to Roku. Dish-network is ruthless at keeping your money through every possible method. Now they waste their money trying to get me back, offering me a plan that twice what I was paying. Idiots.

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 День назад +2

      @@Bonjour-Worldthe holes in the roof kill me. Why not mount on siding?

  • @aoksys31
    @aoksys31 8 часов назад +1

    Rainmaker Ray's channel has many videos of the massive disassembly required to access the plastic POS cooler in order to replace it with a metal aftermarket cooler from Dorman.

  • @robevans5222
    @robevans5222 День назад +62

    I recall when Chrysler Corp made good vehicles...back in the '60s. I worked on several of them. Stellantis? Well, that's a different story.

    • @barrythomas529
      @barrythomas529 День назад +7

      I owned a 2001 ram. The non sun resistant dash crumbled to dust In ,2016..

    • @brassmule
      @brassmule День назад +2

      The older 3.3l and 3.8L v6 engines in the Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth minivans (in use until from like 1992 until like 2012 or something) were overall very reliable engines, just a very old design with a very old (but also reliable) transmission. Couldn't keep up with requirements for gas mileage so had to be discontinued, but they'd run forever if you kept them up. 41TE and 62TE transmissions that were paired with them were generally pretty good, too.
      Honestly, there are very few if any modern engine designs - designs hampered by CAFE, EPA, etc standards for weight, emissions, and gas mileage - which are reliable like our older engine designs, particularly ones that see the usage patterns from police that also require the power and performance of a police vehicle.

    • @dough9512
      @dough9512 День назад +5

      Are there ANY cars or trucks being built ANYWHERE TODAY that will be around long enough to become a classic??

    • @kenyattaclay7666
      @kenyattaclay7666 День назад +2

      @@dough9512cars & trucks built from the late 60’s through the 70’s are classic because of the styling not their reliability. Those cars looked great but ran like trash which is part of the reason why Toyota & Honda started to take off in the mid 70’s. Back then the average age of an American car on the road was slightly over 5 years old but now it’s slightly over 12 years old.

    • @brassmule
      @brassmule День назад +1

      @@dough9512 Anything with a BMW or Benz V8 in it, or anything that has or can LS swap. That's basically it. *Maybe* some of the hybrid vehicles from Toyota (very reliable small engine + very reliable hybrid system + very reliable e-CVT + stylish vehicle with comfort features = classic)
      Oh and maybe the 2005-2012 Ford Escape or Mercury Mariner with AWD and the Duratec 3.0L engines.

  • @tnwhiskey68
    @tnwhiskey68 4 часа назад +1

    This is sad that companies do not care these days! No pride in their products and profit is all that matters! I hope all those brands, that operate like this, go out of business!

  • @antonrr90
    @antonrr90 День назад +56

    RUclips Mechanics Have Been Reporting Defects In Durangos For Over 2 Years, Several Even Pinpointing The Problems With The New Fuel Control System Meant To Save Fuel By Leaning Out The Fuel Use. Fowling Out Cylinders In The Process.

    • @stevelehto
      @stevelehto  День назад +12

      Is that with all of the Durangos? I was wondering if it was limited to the ones they designated for police use or not.

    • @wmrieker
      @wmrieker День назад +5

      Mr Former President, Is That You?

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 День назад +6

      Lean gasoline engine runs hot, brilliant. 🤡💯

    • @guyintenn
      @guyintenn День назад +7

      I must be missing something here. A lean running engine will "foul out" the cylinders? I am guessing you mean fouling the spark plugs. Only an overly rich fuel mixture, oil entering the cylinder, ring blow-by, or insufficient spark will foul spark plugs.

  • @madcap57
    @madcap57 День назад +22

    I think i heard it was an oil cooler that allowed engine coolant to mix with the engine oil hence the dead engine,.

  • @lilsuzq32
    @lilsuzq32 19 часов назад +1

    Ben Hundo's on the 2nd shelf, left -- standing upright behind the Lawyer Dog (Later on during the sponsor message, Ben moves to behind the red 71 Daytona coupe)

  • @drbcrb
    @drbcrb День назад +61

    Ford should bring back the Crown Victoria

    • @5.43v
      @5.43v 23 часа назад +3

      Or bring back the 4.6 or put the 5.0 in a police vehicle

    • @keinlieb3818
      @keinlieb3818 22 часа назад +4

      It wouldn't be the same.

    • @hugokatz
      @hugokatz 22 часа назад +9

      Can't. We reguated Crown Vics out of existence.

    • @beekeeper8474
      @beekeeper8474 22 часа назад

      Ford number one in recallls

    • @ExtraLargeGarfield
      @ExtraLargeGarfield 22 часа назад

      yes but make it look like a cybertruck

  • @JohnD-JohnD
    @JohnD-JohnD 22 часа назад +2

    That SUV is used by MANY police departments, including the local PD by me.
    Why aren't they all having the same issue? Or are the other departments just not reporting issues?
    I also looked up 2022 Dodge Durango issues, and oil cooling isn't listed as a common issue with them.

    • @regdor8187
      @regdor8187 20 часов назад +2

      That water/oil cooler problem has been WIDELY reported, if one has their head in the sand, they will miss it....

    • @JohnD-JohnD
      @JohnD-JohnD 16 часов назад

      @@regdor8187 No need to be rude.

  • @jbinmd
    @jbinmd День назад +27

    Why doesn't the manufacturer step up to fix? Because, it's in the name: Dodge.

    • @beverlyweber171
      @beverlyweber171 День назад

      😅

    • @0004612
      @0004612 День назад +3

      The CEO is too cheap and actually on the way out the door as we speak!

    • @lowermichigan4437
      @lowermichigan4437 22 часа назад

      Sadly it isn't limited to them

    • @MarkStockman-b4j
      @MarkStockman-b4j 21 час назад

      Stellantis bought out FiatChrysler. Stellantis is an investment firm, not a manufacturing company. Needless to say, Stellantis' leadership has no clue how to make quality products- only how to cut corners. The bean counters are running the show, not the engineers. This is the same stupidity that bankrupted GM.

  • @SimplyGetPaid
    @SimplyGetPaid День назад +1

    @3:56 🤔🧐 HMM.. ..IT WOULD’VE BEEN NICE IF THEY HAD INITIATED AN EARLY RECALL UPON FIRST NOTICING THE PREMATURE FAILURES DUE TO THE ‘EXPECTED’ MUCH HEAVIER USE..
    ..D0DGE SHOULD’VE ALREADY HAD A TEAM WITHIN THE R&D DEPARTMENT ASSIGNED TO MONITOR AND DETECT EARLY ISSUES SUCH AS THIS.

  • @KAPTKipper
    @KAPTKipper День назад +17

    I owned an Intrepid. It was Green, and still a lemon. Unfortunately it was a used car so not recourse but to nurse it until I could replace it. NEVER again will I buy Chrysler.

  • @weirdyoda04
    @weirdyoda04 4 часа назад +1

    Steve, can you make a spot where all of your coupon codes and sponsor links are so they are easy to look up and find?

  • @RJJ6129
    @RJJ6129 День назад +34

    Those oil cooler’s are a known problem on all of those engine’s, be it police or normal vechicle’s. It mounts on top of the engine under the intake manifold…high heat area. The plastic warp’s causing oil and coolant leakage.

    • @denniscrannie1126
      @denniscrannie1126 День назад +4

      Very true. This happened on my Dodge Grand Caravan. My mechanic told me he had two others the same week my van was repaired.😢

    • @Unknown-mf4of
      @Unknown-mf4of День назад +4

      It is somewhat surprising that they did not mount the oil cooler in an even hotter location, like directly on the exhaust headers.

  • @michaela6147
    @michaela6147 Час назад +1

    Have you seen the way departments treat their vehicles? Are you that out of touch?

  • @Thfeyhvfdetyhbvcd
    @Thfeyhvfdetyhbvcd День назад +24

    Before buying a fleet, wouldn’t it make sense to RESEARCH the experience of other police departments????!!!!

    • @new2000car
      @new2000car День назад +7

      Wouldn’t it make sense to build a vehicle better, and fix any issues and not screw over the customer?

    • @walkingman9171
      @walkingman9171 22 часа назад +3

      @@new2000car They don't care, they know suckers will still buy them.

    • @Leonard-cx2zi
      @Leonard-cx2zi 21 час назад +2

      There are really only 3 PPV rated models offered by all three manufacturers that are viable for everyday police use. Due to buildout dates and other logistical issues, this department may have only had the one option of ordering Durangos. It’s not the department’s fault, it’s Stellantis’ fault.

    • @Thfeyhvfdetyhbvcd
      @Thfeyhvfdetyhbvcd 21 час назад

      Sounds like a national scandal! Maybe congress should look into it?

    • @kurtvanluven9351
      @kurtvanluven9351 16 часов назад +2

      @@Leonard-cx2zi I was a mechanic for a Sheriff's dept. The old ones could last longer, but since no employee loses pay over abusing the property, nothing is good enough.

  • @jodyhoo
    @jodyhoo День назад +1

    We’re still driving a 2003 Explorer, purchased new. 230k miles and counting. The only issue is the air conditioner system…. Redone that twice, but otherwise it’s solid. My son took it to college (because I don’t buy kids nice cars!)

  • @wags99999
    @wags99999 День назад +15

    This was predictable. A few minutes of research would of exposed how bad Chrysler products are. Stellantas is just whoring the product, using past credibility to sell sub par products. Sue them

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад +4

      Much like 'Schwinn' bicycles that used to be made in Chicago.

  • @Rekuzan
    @Rekuzan День назад +1

    Ask any cop one question: If money were no object, what vehicle would you want. Most will tell you the same thing: BRING BACK THE CROWN VIC!!!

  • @randyoehlert5045
    @randyoehlert5045 День назад +31

    Stellantis owns Chrysler Corp.
    Dodge hasn't had a say in what or how they build anything for a few years now.

    • @GTRxMan
      @GTRxMan День назад +3

      Dodge hasn't been a company in almost 100 years. It's a division of Stellantis. It's basically just a brand name. Nothing but marketing.

    • @0004612
      @0004612 День назад

      @@GTRxMan😂😂

  • @roygutfinski879
    @roygutfinski879 День назад +1

    Chrysler was at one time the best American line of cars on the road. Sad to say, but since the 1970’s it has fallen into the “pit” (and not at Daytona…)…

  • @walmartdog1142
    @walmartdog1142 День назад +11

    There are dealers that deal exclusively in used Crown Vics. Merrillville would be better off with a fleet of cherry picked high mileage Crown Vics..

  • @finkelmana
    @finkelmana День назад +1

    They still make Dodge Durangos? I have seen them since the late 90s. Must be terrible trucks with low sales.

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad День назад +20

    Stellantis sucks. I bought an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. Had it for 6 months 5k miles.

    • @sultanofswing7198
      @sultanofswing7198 День назад

      Did you buy new?

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad День назад

      @@sultanofswing7198 yes

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 4 часа назад +1

      Awesome car, when it wasn't in the shop...

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 3 часа назад

      @@0HOON0 exactly, but that was the problem.

  • @kpp8349
    @kpp8349 День назад +1

    How often does the nice lady at the end say song lyrics? It was one today and I caught one a couple days ago and another a few before that

  • @garyi8608
    @garyi8608 День назад +17

    The Ford Crown Victoria last car came off the assembly line in Canada for 2011 model year.

    • @DzenanA-m6h
      @DzenanA-m6h 20 часов назад

      And it was shipped to Middle East to be used as a taxi!

    • @slee2819
      @slee2819 15 часов назад

      LA Sheriff still has lots in use.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 8 часов назад

      @@slee2819- They stockpiled and put most right into storage.

  • @crittercherry3800
    @crittercherry3800 День назад +1

    I loved my Fiat 500 Sport, but yeah, the engine was not made for long life.

  • @DaveBigDawg
    @DaveBigDawg День назад +20

    If they are using the V6 there is a design flaw with the water/oil cooler exchanger
    Its made of plastic and is a known failure
    Dorman makes an update aluminum cooler that is way more robust

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 День назад +2

      And if they are using the Hemi, prolonged periods of idling (you know, like cop cars do) kills the cam/lifters.

    • @jamesonmiller8283
      @jamesonmiller8283 День назад +5

      Sounds like the problem is that they are using a Dodge.

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith День назад

      If only there a way that the people who make the upgraded part for Dorman could have directly supplied those slightly more expensive aluminum parts directly to Stellantis so that better oil coolers would have been installed at factories in the first place, avoiding all this. It sounds simple to me, but then I'm not a possibly redundant engineering nobody trying not to rock the boat in an elephantine global conglomerate where decisions are made on other continents by expense-cutting managers who might as well have been running Red Lobster or Sears instead of a car company.

    • @8760-x8z
      @8760-x8z День назад +1

      Dorman? Worse than Stellantis

    • @DaveBigDawg
      @DaveBigDawg День назад

      @@8760-x8z not in this case
      The RUclips mechanics I watch use the dorman unit and praise it
      Other stuff they won't use

  • @TeraunceFoaloke
    @TeraunceFoaloke День назад +1

    Video ends at 12:40. Nice video and yeah in this case I feel some sympathy for the police.

  • @jeffschrade4779
    @jeffschrade4779 День назад +9

    I recently spoke with a deputy working for our local sheriff's department. They have had similar problems with their Dodge/Ram vehicles.

  • @solarflare1008
    @solarflare1008 День назад +1

    A really expensive fleet 50k per unit and 500k units. 25M…..

  • @badkittynomilktonight3334
    @badkittynomilktonight3334 День назад +10

    Dodge/Jeep/Stelantis DO NOT STOCK spare parts. I had an issue with my Jeep, took them 6 weeks to repair because parts took forever to get. Never buying again as I have since heard parts for my model are now extremely hard to get. This all thanks to Stelantis short cutting on stocking parts and its an issue on every car now.

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith День назад +3

      Jeep is under immediate financial pressure, so they've taken whatever parts they had and assembled them into more Jeeps they can park on their sales lots. Maybe not having any parts set aside for future repairs is a hint that maybe current Jeep management see current Jeep owner's future problems as something that won't involve them.

  • @kirkmorrison6131
    @kirkmorrison6131 День назад +1

    I was car shopping earlier this year and avoided Chryslers due to the Durango

  • @digitalis2977
    @digitalis2977 День назад +15

    Wait til they discover that the MDS destroys lifters and crankshafts in those 5.7 HEMIs...

    • @trikstari7687
      @trikstari7687 День назад +2

      There's a way to delete that. Then the engine is great.

    • @terryshull4477
      @terryshull4477 День назад

      TUNER OR LIKE WE DO MANUALLY BUT PAIN IN A--

    • @SaanMigwell
      @SaanMigwell День назад

      Yeah, but that's been known since GM did it with the Caddy back in the day. All you have to do on the 5.7 is put the truck in the highest gear you'll be using for the trip, no MDS that way. Also every 5.7 pre fiat may have that 99year/million mile mopar warranty, and that warranty transfers to one owner. I see plenty pre-fiat 5.7's trucking along without issue. Magnum's are hit and miss, most of them sludge up at around 80,000

    • @TheKenworthys
      @TheKenworthys 22 часа назад

      I always put my charger in sport mode to get around MDS

  • @robboyce6636
    @robboyce6636 День назад +1

    My first car, when in high school, was a 1973 Plymouth Gold Duster. A rust bucket it was, but 😊I beat the hell out of it and that slant 6 225 engine kept running. Now in 2024 and going forward, Because of this story, I will never buy a Chrysler product. Just their response to tell the tax payers who bought those police vehicles “screw you”, that is enough. I hope they go out of business. I don’t really care if the employees lose their jobs. The employees should be shouting at the top of their lungs that they need to fix this problem and give the police departments brand new AWESOME vehicles. But that won’t happen so I will never own a Chrysler.

    • @coldlakealta4043
      @coldlakealta4043 День назад +1

      the Slant 6 was, quite possibly, the highest quality engine ever made. My wife had one in an ancient Valiant that rusted to dust long before the engine even considered itself run in

  • @andycanfixit
    @andycanfixit День назад +24

    Modern oil coolers are generally water/oil coolers. If the cooler fails you end up with coolant in your oil and that quickly trashes the engine. Sounds like a pretty major manufacturing defect.

    • @callak_9974
      @callak_9974 День назад +3

      More like a major design defect

    • @JohnM-i2g
      @JohnM-i2g День назад +1

      I'm pretty sure that's the real issue with the oil cooler it's dumping coolant into the oil and the rest of the engine, that's the collateral damage.

  • @Jeff_Pendleton
    @Jeff_Pendleton День назад +1

    Chrysler is just about finished, I am afraid.

  • @spinalobifida
    @spinalobifida День назад +13

    How the heck is the Chrysler head manager, or whoever, ignoring the fact that they're going to be cop cars and would need equipment that's different from regular cars?

    • @davidh9638
      @davidh9638 День назад +1

      Steve mentioned "Durango Pursuit", isn't that different from regular cars?

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 День назад +6

      Dodge very specifically markets the "Durango Pursuit" as a police vehicle. It's supposed to be up to the task. Problem is, it is not.

    • @spinalobifida
      @spinalobifida День назад

      And the name of the vehicle should be a major clue too 😆

    • @dough9512
      @dough9512 День назад +2

      For upper management, it's ONLY about how much money ends up in THEIR back pocket!!

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад

      Stellantis (aka Fiat, aka Italian Mafia, aka Cosa Nostra)

  • @Rock-Bottem1982
    @Rock-Bottem1982 День назад +1

    "Highly complex remedy?" Its pretty straight forward, the engine needs a better oil cooler... It's that simply

    • @new2000car
      @new2000car День назад

      It’s the execution of the remedy that’s complicated. Testing a better oil cooler so that it meets regulations, actually doesn’t break down, and then it’s a huge job per car. Yes figuring out what is wrong is easy. In fact everyone already figured that out.

  • @privacyvalued4134
    @privacyvalued4134 День назад +6

    State AG class action lawsuit against Stellantis incoming in...3, 2, 1. Justice for the police but not the people.

  • @3089280288
    @3089280288 День назад +1

    Chrysler never stood by their products.

  • @nunyabusiness7477
    @nunyabusiness7477 День назад +20

    The oil cooler being underneath the intake is crazy. What made them think that was going to work I don't know.

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад +4

      The same think that made Ford think running a rubber/plastic timing chain in the oil-pan was a good idea ---- MONEY !

    • @coldlakealta4043
      @coldlakealta4043 День назад +4

      they didn't really care as long as it was cheaper to manufacture and assemble

    • @regdor8187
      @regdor8187 20 часов назад +1

      The modern car engine is so covered in add on fixes and fancy covers that it is impossible to find room for necessary equipment.... It's called More-On Design....

    • @nunyabusiness7477
      @nunyabusiness7477 18 часов назад

      @@regdor8187
      You should see a BMW 7 series V8 engine. Book time is around 30 hours to swap an engine. That's crazy. I've been a mechanic for over 20 years and the evolution I've witnessed is wild.

  • @americantrucker9813
    @americantrucker9813 7 часов назад

    That dealer is a absolute liar. There are police agencies across the country who are dealing with the same problem. Indiana, State Police says 20% of their fleet of dodge Durangos has had to have the engines replaced so far

  • @7seriesmax
    @7seriesmax День назад +23

    Funny you mentioned that. It’s not just Durango’s. My local sheriffs department here in Western North Carolina has 11 Taurus patrol cars with blown turbo chargers. 11, so you know what they did, they upgraded to Durango’s. There needs to be government legislation to protect police departments from vehicles being garbage. So I think it’s almost half of their fleet of all Wheel Dr., Taurus patrol cars are down.

    • @stevelehto
      @stevelehto  День назад +12

      Out of the frying pan and into the fire!

    • @jerryjerry7561
      @jerryjerry7561 День назад +3

      no one capable of using a smart phone? these problems are well known, and documented. genius police no doubt, or their procurers.

    • @jool5941
      @jool5941 День назад

      Cut to 6 months later when cops start arresting people because the used car he bought his daughter broke down

    • @mattgayda2840
      @mattgayda2840 День назад +9

      What genius thought a turbo in a fleet vehicle was a good idea? Let alone a cruiser that's beaten to death by driving like they stole it and running at idle for 50% of time.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 День назад +1

      @@jerryjerry7561 Use that smart phone to look up and tell me what the alternative is? Ford doesn't make the Crown Vic anymore. Every other option is junk. Something like an Explorer is a better option than a Durango or turbo Taurus but they have issues too. Nobody is making a good fleet vehicle anymore.

  • @zburnham
    @zburnham 2 часа назад

    I love your jokes, Steve. The one about taking the issue back to the factory so it can be corrected going forward was HILARIOUS. Can you imagine any of the Big 3 actually doing this? Voluntarily sending stuff back to the factory that is going to cost MONEY? No, all that happened then is "we took it to the factory" and then the factory does exactly nothing.

  • @frozencanary4522
    @frozencanary4522 День назад +16

    Ben is by the Quebec license plate

  • @andrewb8548
    @andrewb8548 Час назад

    Ford Pursuit is NOT AN EXPLORER. Completely different (read basically the same) vehicle only sold to fleets.

  • @woodie70hudson87
    @woodie70hudson87 День назад +16

    Stellantis (aka Fiat) has never had a reputation for reliability. There's a reason there are NO Fiat dealerships in America anymore!😕😕😕

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 День назад +4

      There are tons of fiat dealerships in america, have been since around 2009. Of course the only thing they sell anymore is the 500e.

    • @Marynicole830
      @Marynicole830 День назад

      There are dealerships though.
      And the issue isn’t with one single car company. Like phone companies, once one gets away with being cheap they all adopt the practice. Ford, GM, Nissan, and Mazda have all been caught with their pants down in recent years. I think Hyundai too. And maybe Toyota but in a less severe way (PR nightmare though)
      As long as the FTC doesn’t do it’s job and companies can keep people placated with BS excuses, its cheaper for these companies to piss some people off than it is for them to built it right from the get go. Anyone with the money to fight them isn’t going to bother and anyone that relies on these cars for their livelihood isnt going to have the time and money to fight them. Car companies don’t want to sell us vehicles. They want to sell us plastic toys that last just beyond the warranty and if it dies before that, convince the customer they are outside the manufacturers warranty for some dumb reason.

    • @ronhall3686
      @ronhall3686 День назад

      @@Marynicole830 How is the Federal Trade Commission not doing its job? Advertising violations? Financing violations? Your'e picking on the wrong agency.

    • @8760-x8z
      @8760-x8z День назад

      Fix It Again Tony

  • @ibanezleftyclub
    @ibanezleftyclub День назад +5

    This is what happens when you don’t go Ford Interceptor.

  • @JasonWardStudios
    @JasonWardStudios 19 часов назад

    Dodge / Chrysler uses cheap plastic coolers that dry out and crack very quickly, according to my mechanic who replaced them twice on my Town & Country. The second time he replaced it he used a metal after-market cooler that wasn't available the first time it went bad. Auto manufacturers need to stop using garbage components. They just keep making things cheaper and cheaper to make share holders happy. They really need to be held accountable for these crap components and made to just make or use better quality components.

  • @apborick5796
    @apborick5796 День назад +1

    This should show the public/consumers exactly what Chrysler has become. This latest incarnation is the worst. Let it slip away. Become a footnote like so many other US Auto Manufacturers. I've been a Chrysler/Plymouth consumer since 78 when I had a 72 Barracuda.

  • @dennisberman4640
    @dennisberman4640 День назад +11

    Ben - Straight away... Steve's right, against shelf wall.

  • @charlestimmis273
    @charlestimmis273 3 часа назад

    Car companies like GM on Ford used to have a special build for police cars. They had heavy duty components unlike the retail stuff that they sell. Example heavier duty transmission, engine and differentials. Also heavier duty brakes and other components. When you had to buy parts for these cars, you have to say specifically that it was a police car. Otherwise you would get the wrong part. Ex Chevy Caprice, Ford crown Vic.... These Durango's are a joke . I won't buy them for personal use ... Wrong decision from the department. But now all cars are made to not last, so it would be a tough choice. And 50k for brand new car is not cheap in 2018..... That was an expensive purchase for a POS car...

  • @ytzpilot
    @ytzpilot День назад +13

    Ford 4.6L 5.4L Modular Engine is the most produced fleet engine, and has been used extensively as a fleet vehicle, it is the proven workhorse for fleet vehicles

    • @Nobody85746
      @Nobody85746 День назад +3

      Here comes a push rod engine guy ...
      Yes as long as the PMI is done otherwise a timing guide or actuator can destroy the engine. The solenoid on the cylinder heads is often overlooked. 👀 All the timing chains and balance shaft 🫣

    • @austinh1028
      @austinh1028 День назад

      @@Nobody85746 They generally still get 160-300k on the clock before even any issues like that though, and the transmissions all outlast the cars too. decently maintained, they *can* basically run forever
      All manufacturers have issues here and there, some are just more significant (and frequent) than others (ie anything Stellantis, BMW etc). There is much to be said for simplicity of design, but it doesn't matter how simple it is if they cheap out on the parts going in and around and engine

  • @vernonbarry
    @vernonbarry День назад

    I think you missed something HUGE- if this is a typical plastic component- or partially plastic component (aluminum and plastic) and say it's a water (coolant) to oil cooler- then if it leaks, it contaminates the oil thus DESTROYING the engine. This is not something to play around with. Even if not water to oil cooling, even an air cooler with plastic fitting that under pressure cracks and leaks =no oil pressure. It's NOT that it's not doing the job and not cooling enough, if not cooling causes either of the 2 above scenarios- it's game over. Stop making critical parts out of plastic exposed to heat- should be the message. This is throwaway junk designs that ends up in a scrapyard. Long gone are the days of repair and refurbishment of metal parts and reuse. This crap is actually worse for the environment- but hey, it gets good gas mileage right? All the way until it doesn't.

  • @BrankoRNtheotherBranko
    @BrankoRNtheotherBranko День назад +6

    Stellantis is not doing very well. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell off Jeep or kill the brand.

    • @Bonjour-World
      @Bonjour-World День назад +2

      I think that there may be companies in the Philippines that are still producing the original military Jeep from WW2.

    • @BrankoRNtheotherBranko
      @BrankoRNtheotherBranko День назад +2

      @@Bonjour-World there is a company that stamps out vintage Jeep panels.

  • @johnanderson591
    @johnanderson591 Час назад

    0 I wonder how many police were retired police are ending up buying these retired Dodges I've seen it happen here in Philadelphia they used to do a total overhaul and save those particular cars so that all their retiring and retired police could come in and do their bids on those All you had to do is work on one of his in pound lots where they put this stuff and you'd see all kinds of pandering to certain people it's a city thing to government thing it goes on an industry too and they overlook the guy that's always taking home the brooms the mops the hammers whatever that's why this world is such a indiscriminate place cuz you got people are just going to take take and then you got people that are working

  • @idristaylor5093
    @idristaylor5093 День назад +11

    Ben's watching the Lawyer Dog's back.

  • @chefjamesmacinnis
    @chefjamesmacinnis День назад

    We got out 1st SUV 2 summers ago. I didn't know much about things like tow packages and stuff ect. I 9f course needed out and found out what the big tow package has. Bigger radiator, and a transmission cooler. I might never tow anything but knowing that I'll never not get the tow package.