It's hit and miss to be honest, just like ranked. There's the Smurfs, then there's the players at the right rank, and lastly there's the 10 people you absolutely smoked so you could get back the ranks from the Smurf rematches. Sometimes I feel like the Tekken Ranking System is an RPG experience. XD
@じん In quick match you get matched up with anyone. Also you will find good players that don't play ranked fearing they'll lose it to some weird Lili doing her stuff. You also find people who usually smurf or just play offline and have a Quick match for fun every now and then. Last but not least, you get constantly matched up with players one division higher which is exactly the level of stronger player you can learn something from. For example I'm purple and I get matched up with Blue-Emperor all the time.
I confirm. I play ONLY quick match. Got 500 wins and never played ranked at all. I have met everything, except the Highest (Tekken Omega or whatever it was). Its cool to be able to play with people much higher then you, you learn a lot just from 3 rounds :)
@@goshu7009 true but that's not saying that quick match is without its flaws. People there usually look for a good game and will usually one n' done you if they deem you unworthy of their time be it because they find you too strong, too weak or too cheesy. I remember one day everyone one n' done me in quick match only to make me go ranked and play a really cool death match against a Fahkumram of all characters 😅
@@Goteiii Sure. It happened to me many times. I play with some guy who is high rank - he beat me easy - no rematch. I personally always give rematch. Only to laggers - i dont. Even to cheater, who i am 100% sure they cheat - i give rematch and try to beat them. For me - the game is fun as it is, i dont care if i win or lose. Just having fun =)
"He wants to fight stronger opponents" That's like a schoolyard bully saying he wants to take on UFC fighters. Even if you get accepted into the UFC, you're just gonna get your teeth pushed in, so what's the point?
Copy/Paste, but I think it would be good to understand this: _The ranking system is not good IMO._ I feel like once you reach the next rank tiers of colors, you shouldn't be able to be demoted in the tiers below. To compliment that, there should be a lot more seasonal resets to constantly readjust to and reconfirm a player's actual skill level. (IMO I think Apex Legends has an interesting way of doing their ranked ladder, that's where I got some inspiration from.) I'm fine with rematching much better players (even if they had their saves deleted or are just smurfing) or against a character I don't know much about and getting demoted like 3+ times. But then having to grind back points so you could get to a point where you can learn something is counter intuitive, a chore, and really messes up the system. It's not even a ranking system anymore, it's an RPG experience bar. If you want to get good, this is weird that you're trying to grind for wins. It's like killing 1000 zombies and thinking you're ready to kill a Boss Dragon. That will never work. You need to figure out how the Boss Dragon operates, not the zombies. That's why for a while we've been saying rank doesn't mater/is a joke. If they did it right, it could have been another decent tool for us to properly get better from.
"I want to fight stronger opponents." Okay here is the main question you have to ask yourself can you consistently beat the people at your level. If yes then rank up normally. If not you don't need to be ranked up anyway. Idc if you know more about Tekken than the next player. If they can beat you when they think a 50/50 is a chance a move will reach or not then it is what it is. Lab, win, get beat repeat.
I don't agree with save scumming, but I'll bring up a slightly kind of similar topic. The ranking system is not good IMO. I feel like once you reach the next rank tiers of colors, you shouldn't be able to be demoted in the tiers below. To compliment that, there should be a lot more seasonal resets to constantly readjust to and reconfirm a player's actual skill level. (IMO I think Apex Legends has an interesting way of doing their ranked ladder, that's where I got some inspiration from.) I'm fine with rematching much better players (even if they had their saves deleted or are just smurfing) or against a character I don't know much about and getting demoted like 3+ times. But then having to grind back points so you could get to a point where you can learn something is counter intuitive, a chore, and really messes up the system. It's not even a ranking system anymore, it's an RPG experience bar. If you want to get good, this is weird that you're trying to grind for wins. It's like killing 1000 zombies and thinking you're ready to kill a Boss Dragon. That will never work. You need to figure out how the Boss Dragon operates, not the zombies. That's why for a while we've been saying rank doesn't mater/is a joke. If they did it right, it could have been another decent tool for us to properly get better from.
@@joshuaxiong8377 i think its fair to get demoted…but i also think its unfair. Just because you get demoted doesnt me you are bad…and tbh, we do have spammers and such..but is that really an excuse for losing..lol…and we arent forced to rematch anyone…i only wish they would show the gamertag before accepting..i really dont give af about their location lmao…every fighting game shows gamertag..why is tekken being so difficult..you can look at tekken at many different angles..i try to be as positive as i can in the toxic world of tekken..
It’s the main reason why I don’t play this game anymore since 2020. The fact that these cheaters can save scum for their precious ranks is dumb and the fact Murray and Namco won’t do anything about it is a slap and eff you in the face from them.
"My opponent is a hack fraud" said the man who can't do Lidia's rage drive input at TGO. /s Always love the true tekken fraud content, thanks for putting these on youtube.
"You know someone is mad when they do revenge throws." 8:02 Actually no, it's just a low rank thing. If you're not playing a grappler, sometimes even if you ARE playing a grappler, when you get tossed by a throw, we all go, "Oh right. Throws exists. Maybe I should use them." Then we will immediately use it as our next attack or it will be 50% of the next moves we throw. XD Reminds me of thing with low ranked StarCraft 2 with the Terran Race. When it's a Terran mirror match and a player does a random map scan ability, about 90% of the time, the player who was scanned will also use their scan right back because they now remember that it exists and they might as well use it right then.
Throw spammers always piss me off and then I start responding with cheese tactics of my own. Characters like bryan I can just snake edge under their throws, but with Jin the only cheese you can give back is just throws of your own
@@emogaysasuuke Throws in general aren't cheese, but a King spamming spins and multithrows is cheese to me. Learning breaks seemed boring so I just got good at movement and kbd
5:12 - 5:23 *K-Wiss' inner "m" coming out again* Lidia: "You know I'll *gladly* help you with that after this, riiiiight?" K-Wiss: "You're a little too rough, babe." Lidia: "But you love it, though." K-Wiss: "....I do."
Shiiiiiiitttttt Jin and Mishima players never cease to amaze me with their execution. Likeeeee rank doesn’t matter in some cases but uhhh. I’ve seen orange and red rank jins that have phenomenal execution… it’s literally a requirement to know that when you are playing Jin or the others. Like I don’t take rank seriously because of lagging and aggressive opponents that don’t study the frames. It was fun in the beginning but not now. I’m getting my desired rank then just doing labbing and Lobby sessions only..
Do to this fact I always keep my rank Lower than my skill level. I'm a causal player. For example my skill level is Yaksa - Empereur. But I keep my rank at Rulers because I'll stop playing for a while than come back. Because of this I don't play ranked battle that much.
The fact that people are describing a person who tries to punish a hopkick...with another hopkick as "Genbu at Best", and "Vanquisher"...is ridiculous. That's T7 green rank and that's being generous. In TTT2, he would not even be green.
Dunno whether he did it on purpose (I doubt it because no follow up) but at around 1:30, jumping over Lidia's stance mixup is a thing. I think TBS went over it
I...*that guy had Tekken God Omega and couldn't Electric Properly. I can't electric but i don't save scum just to rise in rank. I genuinely try to learn how to play Jin, Kazuya, and the other Mishimas with as much practice as i can. To see saving scum like this genuinely makes my blood boil*
That's why I only play in quick match. I get to fight better opponents that scrubs me on the floor, all the while learning what could make my gameplay better without the cost of my sanity. lmao.
I think you can end up with this heading. 1 Due to saving on the client side, all low ranks are full of experienced players. Literally ALL wounds. Newbies literally have to fight their way through the hordes of "trolls" who simply live in low ranks. There is simply no other option but to save. + altF4 users, +cheaters, +real connection problems. 2 Absolutely everyone uses savescum. In general, everyone. Season 4 had 2 or 3 months of disconnect issues. And where are all these crowds of "honest" players with poor connection statistics? Even you have it good. Now Tekken has such a period that one can only rejoice that at least someone comes into the game. Because the vast majority of beginners, after a week of playing, simply delete it and forget it like a bad dream.
There is no point in fighting WAY stronger opponents. You get to improve fighting people at your level or bit stronger then you, am amateur Boxer doesn’t get stronger fighting Tyson on the ring.
does deviljin has a move that allows him to teleport from the ground to air to do his air moves? i dont mean the jump into the air literally teleport i fought a guy who did that 2 times
K wiss said genbu!! 😂😂…tbh i see alot of players only knowing 1 strong combo..no optimal combos or setups! They just learn 2 mixups and 1 strong combo…And its not a single character…this is characters across the board..
I don't get the stronger oppenents arguement. Its a ranked ladder your playing stronger oppenents or your bad. I'm definitely bad my peak was Juggernaut.
Well if lose against the stronger opponent hardcore u will lose ur will of fight its not fun and the other one also get bored by beating the shit outa ur holy moly
Bro ure dum u wanna fight kwiss 🤣🤣🤣 u struggle against destroyer rank ure usurper and ur name is fujin but ure not a fujin u talking about u will never see kwiss in ranking when ur rank is usurper
@@erickcuba4139 if its just a game why did you even make the comment, why care so much that he played lidia(not even his main) against this bum Jin. Completely delusional honestly and I wouldnt even be surprised if youre the jin from the video. But nice response trying to strawman me by acting like im angry and out of line. I just think people like you should pipe down because im sure youre quite shit at this game after just reading your one comment
@@erickcuba4139 anything you just said has nothing to do with my comment and you basically ignored the most important parts and focussed on a throwaway line. Lowkey I feel like you dont even watch kwiss his vids and just come here to hate on him. That Jin player never even raged or losequit so you not quiting doesnt have anything to do with the subject at hand
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That Paul is the opposite of that Jin lol.
Assuming the average win/loss ratio is 50%. The Paul player went through 30K matches.
As he always says: "No pain no gain", he lives up to that
Rollthedice save files died on 6k wins, so he maybe has 40k matches, he is best friend of Tonic, famous unpredictable russian paul.
You can get matched up with stronger players without cheating. It's called "Quick Match"
It's hit and miss to be honest, just like ranked.
There's the Smurfs, then there's the players at the right rank, and lastly there's the 10 people you absolutely smoked so you could get back the ranks from the Smurf rematches.
Sometimes I feel like the Tekken Ranking System is an RPG experience. XD
@じん In quick match you get matched up with anyone. Also you will find good players that don't play ranked fearing they'll lose it to some weird Lili doing her stuff. You also find people who usually smurf or just play offline and have a Quick match for fun every now and then. Last but not least, you get constantly matched up with players one division higher which is exactly the level of stronger player you can learn something from. For example I'm purple and I get matched up with Blue-Emperor all the time.
I confirm. I play ONLY quick match. Got 500 wins and never played ranked at all. I have met everything, except the Highest (Tekken Omega or whatever it was).
Its cool to be able to play with people much higher then you, you learn a lot just from 3 rounds :)
@@goshu7009 true but that's not saying that quick match is without its flaws. People there usually look for a good game and will usually one n' done you if they deem you unworthy of their time be it because they find you too strong, too weak or too cheesy. I remember one day everyone one n' done me in quick match only to make me go ranked and play a really cool death match against a Fahkumram of all characters 😅
@@Goteiii Sure. It happened to me many times. I play with some guy who is high rank - he beat me easy - no rematch.
I personally always give rematch. Only to laggers - i dont.
Even to cheater, who i am 100% sure they cheat - i give rematch and try to beat them.
For me - the game is fun as it is, i dont care if i win or lose. Just having fun =)
"He wants to fight stronger opponents"
That's like a schoolyard bully saying he wants to take on UFC fighters. Even if you get accepted into the UFC, you're just gonna get your teeth pushed in, so what's the point?
Copy/Paste, but I think it would be good to understand this:
_The ranking system is not good IMO._
I feel like once you reach the next rank tiers of colors, you shouldn't be able to be demoted in the tiers below.
To compliment that, there should be a lot more seasonal resets to constantly readjust to and reconfirm a player's actual skill level.
(IMO I think Apex Legends has an interesting way of doing their ranked ladder, that's where I got some inspiration from.)
I'm fine with rematching much better players (even if they had their saves deleted or are just smurfing) or against a character I don't know much about and getting demoted like 3+ times.
But then having to grind back points so you could get to a point where you can learn something is counter intuitive, a chore, and really messes up the system.
It's not even a ranking system anymore, it's an RPG experience bar.
If you want to get good, this is weird that you're trying to grind for wins.
It's like killing 1000 zombies and thinking you're ready to kill a Boss Dragon.
That will never work. You need to figure out how the Boss Dragon operates, not the zombies.
That's why for a while we've been saying rank doesn't mater/is a joke.
If they did it right, it could have been another decent tool for us to properly get better from.
"I want to fight stronger opponents." Okay here is the main question you have to ask yourself can you consistently beat the people at your level. If yes then rank up normally. If not you don't need to be ranked up anyway. Idc if you know more about Tekken than the next player. If they can beat you when they think a 50/50 is a chance a move will reach or not then it is what it is. Lab, win, get beat repeat.
I don't agree with save scumming, but I'll bring up a slightly kind of similar topic.
The ranking system is not good IMO.
I feel like once you reach the next rank tiers of colors, you shouldn't be able to be demoted in the tiers below.
To compliment that, there should be a lot more seasonal resets to constantly readjust to and reconfirm a player's actual skill level.
(IMO I think Apex Legends has an interesting way of doing their ranked ladder, that's where I got some inspiration from.)
I'm fine with rematching much better players (even if they had their saves deleted or are just smurfing) or against a character I don't know much about and getting demoted like 3+ times.
But then having to grind back points so you could get to a point where you can learn something is counter intuitive, a chore, and really messes up the system.
It's not even a ranking system anymore, it's an RPG experience bar.
If you want to get good, this is weird that you're trying to grind for wins.
It's like killing 1000 zombies and thinking you're ready to kill a Boss Dragon.
That will never work. You need to figure out how the Boss Dragon operates, not the zombies.
That's why for a while we've been saying rank doesn't mater/is a joke.
If they did it right, it could have been another decent tool for us to properly get better from.
@@joshuaxiong8377 i think its fair to get demoted…but i also think its unfair. Just because you get demoted doesnt me you are bad…and tbh, we do have spammers and such..but is that really an excuse for losing..lol…and we arent forced to rematch anyone…i only wish they would show the gamertag before accepting..i really dont give af about their location lmao…every fighting game shows gamertag..why is tekken being so difficult..you can look at tekken at many different angles..i try to be as positive as i can in the toxic world of tekken..
@Noah Jones Fax
Jesus Christ, the amount of Parries this Jin did is absurd, *even at -12* .
The fact that he thinks he's fine been in those ranks it's also absurd🥴
It’s the main reason why I don’t play this game anymore since 2020. The fact that these cheaters can save scum for their precious ranks is dumb and the fact Murray and Namco won’t do anything about it is a slap and eff you in the face from them.
"My opponent is a hack fraud" said the man who can't do Lidia's rage drive input at TGO. /s
Always love the true tekken fraud content, thanks for putting these on youtube.
Lol don't even act like u can do perfect inputs in the game and don't even act like ur perfect at the game
@@lil_sway6967 /s means the shit was sarcastic, is joke, chill my guy.
"You know someone is mad when they do revenge throws." 8:02
Actually no, it's just a low rank thing.
If you're not playing a grappler, sometimes even if you ARE playing a grappler, when you get tossed by a throw, we all go, "Oh right. Throws exists. Maybe I should use them."
Then we will immediately use it as our next attack or it will be 50% of the next moves we throw.
XD
Reminds me of thing with low ranked StarCraft 2 with the Terran Race.
When it's a Terran mirror match and a player does a random map scan ability, about 90% of the time, the player who was scanned will also use their scan right back because they now remember that it exists and they might as well use it right then.
Throw spammers always piss me off and then I start responding with cheese tactics of my own. Characters like bryan I can just snake edge under their throws, but with Jin the only cheese you can give back is just throws of your own
@@NeezMyDew crouching or breaking throws *exists*
@@emogaysasuuke No they don't. Both got removed last patch
@@NeezMyDew also throws are not cheese. Just learn to break them, it's gonna help you a lot
@@emogaysasuuke Throws in general aren't cheese, but a King spamming spins and multithrows is cheese to me. Learning breaks seemed boring so I just got good at movement and kbd
8:19 I love how K-Wiss just misses the rage drive like 6 times in a row
Its not his fault
@@djw_tekken8490 Never said it was
@@TotallyHaze lmao there is a usurper jin in the comment section who wants to fight k wiss
@@djw_tekken8490 ???
@@djw_tekken8490 If you think I'm spreadin hate you're the one that's doin it, I just find that moment funny
I hope you know there are people who come to your channel exclusively for this series.
I'm one of them
*blocks hopkick* hmm what to do *hopkicks back* That's the kind of thing i'd be disappointed to see a yellow rank do.
"He beat other save scummers" I laughed so hard..
My boy got Lu Bu's DW4 Theme in background. Nice!
5:12 - 5:23 *K-Wiss' inner "m" coming out again*
Lidia: "You know I'll *gladly* help you with that after this, riiiiight?"
K-Wiss: "You're a little too rough, babe."
Lidia: "But you love it, though."
K-Wiss: "....I do."
Man said "Genbu on a good day" bruh I know Vanquisher Jin players better than this 🤣🤣🤣
Bro im Purple and I can definitely say he is below orange with this Gameplay.
@@mortihucay566 Bro I’m tryna cop some free ranked points, why can’t I match with players like this to help me grind? 😂😂
@@manlikekarnak me too man...
Shiiiiiiitttttt Jin and Mishima players never cease to amaze me with their execution. Likeeeee rank doesn’t matter in some cases but uhhh. I’ve seen orange and red rank jins that have phenomenal execution… it’s literally a requirement to know that when you are playing Jin or the others. Like I don’t take rank seriously because of lagging and aggressive opponents that don’t study the frames. It was fun in the beginning but not now. I’m getting my desired rank then just doing labbing and Lobby sessions only..
I’m savior and could easily wash that kid 10 times over
What i like about k wiss is that he explains quite good what a high rank thinks while playing at the same time.
He is playing a mishima and a mishima who doesn't know how to punish is probably a warrior at most.
@8:41 all I could think of was the "always has been" meme lmao lmao
Do to this fact I always keep my rank Lower than my skill level. I'm a causal player. For example my skill level is Yaksa - Empereur. But I keep my rank at Rulers because I'll stop playing for a while than come back. Because of this I don't play ranked battle that much.
Sike.. You belong in the rulers cut it out
Bruh
The fact that people are describing a person who tries to punish a hopkick...with another hopkick as "Genbu at Best", and "Vanquisher"...is ridiculous. That's T7 green rank and that's being generous. In TTT2, he would not even be green.
man that Jin was pure trash wtf xD...
Thats a badass lidia costume mod.
I'm a Jin main hard stuck at green, and him not using 1,4 for the -10 punish was a straight trigger....
Dunno whether he did it on purpose (I doubt it because no follow up) but at around 1:30, jumping over Lidia's stance mixup is a thing. I think TBS went over it
the real twist k-wiss himself has become what he destroys.
I...*that guy had Tekken God Omega and couldn't Electric Properly. I can't electric but i don't save scum just to rise in rank. I genuinely try to learn how to play Jin, Kazuya, and the other Mishimas with as much practice as i can. To see saving scum like this genuinely makes my blood boil*
That's why I only play in quick match. I get to fight better opponents that scrubs me on the floor, all the while learning what could make my gameplay better without the cost of my sanity. lmao.
Yo that Lidia mod with the Deku gloves is awesome.
Bro the Lidia drip is real.
Which mod is he using for Lidia's pants?
Does anyone know the song that begins at 6:30?
15k+ character specialist>
Professional player>
TGO rank>
Tekkem God Fraud
Bruh you knew he was a fraud the moment he failed to duck and punish lidias unblockable.
I've never even seen low ranks fall for her unblockable
please make a video playing old tekken games, it woud be very fun to see your hwoarang in tekken 5😆
i dont think d 3, 4 was natural in t5
Music around 6:50???
I think you can end up with this heading.
1 Due to saving on the client side, all low ranks are full of experienced players. Literally ALL wounds. Newbies literally have to fight their way through the hordes of "trolls" who simply live in low ranks. There is simply no other option but to save. + altF4 users, +cheaters, +real connection problems.
2 Absolutely everyone uses savescum. In general, everyone. Season 4 had 2 or 3 months of disconnect issues. And where are all these crowds of "honest" players with poor connection statistics? Even you have it good.
Now Tekken has such a period that one can only rejoice that at least someone comes into the game. Because the vast majority of beginners, after a week of playing, simply delete it and forget it like a bad dream.
There is no point in fighting WAY stronger opponents. You get to improve fighting people at your level or bit stronger then you, am amateur Boxer doesn’t get stronger fighting Tyson on the ring.
Not punishing spamming hopkick attempts... i say 3rd dan.
I think he believes he can get stronger when he faces tough opponents
Still no TEKKEN Fraud omega intro. Someone must do something.
does deviljin has a move that allows him to teleport from the ground to air to do his air moves? i dont mean the jump into the air literally teleport i fought a guy who did that 2 times
Yes
he has that, but i forgot the notations.
it's not u4 from neutral standing, but something else when he is grounded.
U 3+4
8:19 lol
Honestly it kinda makes sense save scumming for stronger opponents. But I wouldn't go above reds anyway.
Gotta learn to deal with the cheese first.
there is cheats now that change your rank to anything from any promotion
that Jin is pure macros... see how is he trying to hopkick all day long jesus.
I love the tekken fraud series lol
Clipbaiting all us Jin mains out here...
holy shit his lidia is god tier
He prbably just wanted to flex to his friends
K wiss said genbu!! 😂😂…tbh i see alot of players only knowing 1 strong combo..no optimal combos or setups! They just learn 2 mixups and 1 strong combo…And its not a single character…this is characters across the board..
I love this series haha
I don't get the stronger oppenents arguement.
Its a ranked ladder your playing stronger oppenents or your bad.
I'm definitely bad my peak was Juggernaut.
Sometimes I play while beeing stoned and get my ass kicked hard. But is still fun.
Maybe he had no character knowledge and didn't buy dlc 🤔 lol
Your more of a fraud than he is, eesh...
I love how you could tell straight away this guy was a fraud before the fight was even over haha👌
I see in alot of videos
this Jin skill is like beginner lvl wtf is this...
I think his rank is probably just a vanquisher. Or usurper?
How do you cheat rank?
True tekken fraud😂😂😂😂, he plays like a vindicator😂😂
Wanting to fight stronger opponents. On the low, I kinda see what he wants. Kinda like the Son Goku mentality but more masochistic.
And also cheating
we love it! lol
Tekken God Pepega
as a greenrank i feel i can beat him
Sorry I got to do it, first.
Welcome to k wiss drops off a yellow rank cheater
Yesssir
This guy would have a problem with my lars and i just started playing him yesterday 😂 now way he omega mega
Goddamn the amount of hopkick uses
Playing stronger opponents irl sometimes is necessary, not that it excuses cheating in a ranked system but I get it 6:19
Well if lose against the stronger opponent hardcore u will lose ur will of fight its not fun and the other one also get bored by beating the shit outa ur holy moly
Tekken fraud omega
I've seen saviors better lol so probably a vindicator lol
Run the set. K Swiss. Wats ya steam?
No
@@K-Wiss iight bet. If I catch u in ranked. Imma crush u
@@fujinuchihainfinite2906 I'm sure you will
Bro ure dum u wanna fight kwiss 🤣🤣🤣 u struggle against destroyer rank ure usurper and ur name is fujin but ure not a fujin u talking about u will never see kwiss in ranking when ur rank is usurper
@@fujinuchihainfinite2906 he sure is afraid of u😅
You never win a Evo, stop talk Like you are the best of the f ... world dude. Besides you use a Dlc character (plus on everything lol)
Dude would woop your ass while picking random even if you got pre nerf leroy. So shut up dude
@@er7776 lol it´s my opinion mate, don´t take it seriously, jezz calm down it´s just a f... game.
@@erickcuba4139 if its just a game why did you even make the comment, why care so much that he played lidia(not even his main) against this bum Jin. Completely delusional honestly and I wouldnt even be surprised if youre the jin from the video. But nice response trying to strawman me by acting like im angry and out of line. I just think people like you should pipe down because im sure youre quite shit at this game after just reading your one comment
@@er7776 believe it or not, i NEVER quit a match, never.
This is absurd, you're right. I lose my mind, it's ok. See ya
@@erickcuba4139 anything you just said has nothing to do with my comment and you basically ignored the most important parts and focussed on a throwaway line. Lowkey I feel like you dont even watch kwiss his vids and just come here to hate on him. That Jin player never even raged or losequit so you not quiting doesnt have anything to do with the subject at hand
Love these series, nice gameplay K-Wiss.