What is Fromsoft's Longest Running Callback?

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  • @BertoPlease
    @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +35

    Just for full disclosure, the reason I didn't include other frequently reoccuring weapons like Claymore, Uchigatana, etc., is because those are based off of real life weapons for the most part, I wanted to mostly focus on things that are more so Fromsoft's. Similar reason for not including the Guts' adjacent Greatsword, it's mostly a shoutout to one of their influences and not really their thing specifically. Plus something that simply breaks down to *BIG SWORD* leaves a lot of room for interpretation (i.e. would Ludwig's Holy Blade count? It is quite big but also vastly different from what we know as *the* Greatsword. Plus I didn't think there'd be much pre-Demon's.)
    Music:
    0:00 - The Beginning (Demon's Souls OG OST)
    1:00 - Old Hero (Demon's Souls OG OST)
    2:34 - Seath the Scaleless (Dark Souls OST)
    3:19 - The Lost Sinner (Dark Souls II OST)
    4:16 - Ludwig, the Holy Blade (Bloodborne: The Old Hunters OST)
    5:53 - Halflight, Spear of the Church (Dark Souls III: The Ringed City OST)
    7:11 - Divine Dragon (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice OST)
    8:49 - Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon (Elden Ring OST)
    9:39 - Fires of Rubicon (Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon OST)
    11:01 - Remember (Armored Core: For Answer OST)
    13:24 - Dark Reality (King's Field IV OST)
    16:20 - Maiden in Black (Demon's Souls OG OST)

  • @AT7outof10
    @AT7outof10 5 дней назад +107

    The true Fromsoft staple is walking into a room and an enemy jumps you from an unseen corner.

    • @WeirdTroll666
      @WeirdTroll666 4 дня назад +2

      fr

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 4 дня назад +10

      i habitually check corners before i mindlessly walk into a room with an item laid right out in the middle to entice me

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад +2

      😂

    • @raysandrarexxia941
      @raysandrarexxia941 3 дня назад

      Even in Armored Core fr

  • @cynder7904
    @cynder7904 5 дней назад +169

    patches and Lap are 100% the same patches. he is one of the only people to make it to the end of the world. as he never went hollow till he ran out of people to mess with and sorta lost his own self imposed purpose of punishing greedy people. he was only out for himself, so never became crestfallen risking losing himself. which is why lap reverts to kicking people off a ledge once he reverts his hollowing and regains his memories.

    • @EatWave
      @EatWave 4 дня назад +6

      Patches is the opposite of a pal so the name checks out.

    • @dirtyharry0191
      @dirtyharry0191 3 дня назад +8

      ​@@EatWave Lapp is also Patch in swedish and norwegian

    • @yaxbebbb5555
      @yaxbebbb5555 3 дня назад +1

      Why hello there

    • @cynder7904
      @cynder7904 3 дня назад

      @@yaxbebbb5555 eyo same image. But the 2 sunglasses upgrade.

  • @screaminginagony3601
    @screaminginagony3601 5 дней назад +61

    If you count the ringed city patches as a second, then the “Old Moonlight” spell from Midir should definitely count as a second MLGS too

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +13

      Oh holy shit I COMPLETELY forgot about that loool. 41 then :)

  • @glitzyssbm4347
    @glitzyssbm4347 5 дней назад +43

    The hand of malenia bears a pretty interesting resemblence to hiltless, by having only a small tang to hold, and malenia just holds it by the blade anyway.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +4

      Oh yeah I can see that

    • @rathosalpha
      @rathosalpha 4 дня назад +4

      I'm pretty the the hand of malenia is literally just part of malenia's hand
      And also it doesn't damage you

  • @JD-kl9xw
    @JD-kl9xw 5 дней назад +49

    About the DS3 Patches thing, it's definitely the same Patches, even the summon sign literally has him called "Unbreakable Patches", same as his base game name. He's also the same Patches from DS1 just as Andre is also in DS3 and it's 100% the same Andre as he references the Giant Blacksmith from DS1. If it wasn't the same Patches we would have a similar case as Siegward who is obviously a callback to Siegmeyer but is not the same person. As for killing him in the base game and him still coming back, it's probably just Fromsoft not wanting players to miss all his content if they did kill him before and it's not like it breaks the lore or anything, he is an undead afterall. But with all that considered I'd still count him twice in this case as the dlc does enough with him for it to feel like another unique experience.

    • @Rexis102
      @Rexis102 2 дня назад

      Regarding killing him, we as players die and watch our bodies disappear all the time. Who knows how long in-universe it takes for our bodies to regenerate. Time is of no essence to a group of Undeads after all.

  • @MoonSystem-They-It
    @MoonSystem-They-It 5 дней назад +28

    As peps who got into the Armored Core Series in prep for the release of AC6, and knowing that there's like 16 mainline AC games... yh no the other two options really stood no chance 😭😭😭

  • @kamprouristheoharis8458
    @kamprouristheoharis8458 5 дней назад +45

    The mortal blade is definitely a chaos blade. It literally just kills you, even though it's a cutscene

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +8

      .. you might have a point there

    • @pretentiosaurus
      @pretentiosaurus 4 дня назад +2

      yea, i think the mortal blade is to the chaos blade as the holy moonlight sword is to the moonlight greatsword, it's given a much more important role in the story of the game it's in, while changing some of the elements of its mechanical design to emphasize the unique gameplay of its respective game (trick weapon with an L2 attack for bloodborne, extra weapon in the arsenal that can be used with an L1+R1 combat art input for sekiro)

  • @carlschrappen9712
    @carlschrappen9712 5 дней назад +28

    I wish you had picked up on the Crescent Axe staple. While not as iconic as Patches or the Moonlight Greatsword, it has appeared in King's Field 1-4, DeS, DS1-3, and ER. It's never been super important or had consistent attributes beyond the name and being an axe of some sort (except for DS3 where it was a halberd), but it's there.
    The Karasawa gun has been in every single AC game, so it's probally FromSoftware's second most numerous callback.
    Also, you should play AC6, as well as the other AC games. They're very good.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад +3

      Honestly working on this video got me interested in going through a bunch of these games, especially the King's Fields and Armored Cores 😄

    • @Armored_Core_Guy
      @Armored_Core_Guy 3 дня назад +1

      The Cresent ax isn't a callback, it's an actual type of historical ax. Karasawa is the name of one of the developers who works on the AC series. It's named after him.

    • @jashloseher578
      @jashloseher578 День назад +1

      The axe also appeared in the original Shadow Tower.

  • @samfivedot
    @samfivedot 4 дня назад +17

    I'll admit it's kind of a stretch, but I think the REDSHIFT is AC6's equivalent to the Chaos Blade. While it doesn't damage your mech, the energy waves it produces are made of Coral, which is stated to be a living consciousness, so the core idea of a sword that burns life force to wield is still there.

    • @raysandrarexxia941
      @raysandrarexxia941 3 дня назад

      100% agree, as well as the Blood ashes of war in Elden Ring

  • @SuperGameFan77
    @SuperGameFan77 4 дня назад +14

    The Divine Dragon's sword unfortunately is not a Moonlight Greatsword reference. It is based on Shichishitō (The Seven-branched Sword), a gift from Korea to a Yamato era ruler. Its a popular historical reference in Japan and appears in tons of anime and manga like Bleach and Demon Slayer. Elden Ring even has a version called the "Death Ritual Spear"

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      Valid argument. As I said I was pretty on the fence too and I just barely counted it, the main reason I did was because Moonlight in the Armored Core games it's a laser sword thing, in an attempt to make it fit the aesthetic of the respective game. I would say they don't necessarily need to be mutually exclusive but I'm still hung up on the fact that you don't get it yourself either

  • @multimediagamer
    @multimediagamer 4 дня назад +6

    Another cool thing about Elden Ring is that technically there are 2 Moonlight Greatsword equivalents: The Dark Moon Greatsword and the Golden Order Greatsword! As a part of Carian wedding culture, queens bestow Moon Greatswords upon their spouse to honour tradition. In-game, Ranni gives us the DMGS and her mother before her, Rennala, would have given Radagon a Full Moon Greatsword, which he'd later reforge into the GOGS.

  • @orkomistrzu
    @orkomistrzu 4 дня назад +19

    Oh man, it was such a missed opportunity to explore poisonous swamps throughout Fromsoftware's history

  • @Detriax
    @Detriax 5 дней назад +14

    I think that a Crestfallen Character would have made more sense in the running instead of a chaos blade

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад +2

      I did consider it but it's pretty much only in the Souls games no? Can't think of a direct parallel in BB, Seki and Elden Ring, so if anything i'd be about on par with Chaos Blade

    • @Detriax
      @Detriax 4 дня назад +2

      @@BertoPlease It’s also in Kingsfield

    • @meteormashup8497
      @meteormashup8497 4 дня назад +2

      @@BertoPlease In Elden Ring, Hewg refers to Roderika as crestfallen so that would count I think

    • @jashloseher578
      @jashloseher578 День назад

      Yeah, there's a crestfallen guy in multiple King's Field games.

  • @gallagherxl9189
    @gallagherxl9189 5 дней назад +7

    Kingsfield 2 was my intro to fromsoft and I still love it to this day

  • @peterharwood425
    @peterharwood425 4 дня назад +4

    Ninja blade has a chaos blade equivalent. Its your main weapon when fully upgraded deals self damge and can fire red beam attacks

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад

      oh snap, I'll have to look into that

  • @cake2806
    @cake2806 3 дня назад +2

    The longest running callback in my mind is NPC's just saying "Ah..." at the start of every freaking conversation

  • @Armored_Core_Guy
    @Armored_Core_Guy 3 дня назад +2

    The name "Seathe" is also a callback the pale drake from king's field was named Seathe, you needed the moonlight sword to defeat him. That's why you get the moonlight greatsword from seathe the scaleless in ds1.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      Oh snap I forgot about that too, would've mentioned it. Dang

  • @Cheflambe
    @Cheflambe 3 дня назад +1

    Someone didn’t complete Satsuki quest in shrine of storms to know he gives you the real chaos blade “Makoto”

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      imagine telling that to the guy who has a maiden in black pfp

  • @isaacgard2157
    @isaacgard2157 4 дня назад +4

    Dude the Moonlight greatsword from Otogi: Myth of Demons and Otogi: Immortal warriors was amazing. The moonlight beam could one-shot everything, including all bosses. I would love it if they remastered that game series

  • @zacharypennington6387
    @zacharypennington6387 3 дня назад +1

    In the 1.00 version of Elden ring rivers of blood comes with bloody slash as opposed to corpse piler. Meaning it originally was a health draining katana

  • @minespatch
    @minespatch 4 дня назад +1

    Makoto is the chaos blade in Demon's souls 😆
    Maldron the assassin might also be a Patches incarnation. I asked DS2 dataminer if Gilligan counts but despite selling the black leather set, being hated by other npcs for being a scammer, a callback to Mephistopheles with Navalan, and giving lore if he trusts you enough, he apparently doesn't count.

  • @信之介赤羽-u2d
    @信之介赤羽-u2d 5 дней назад +3

    I never knew that in KF2 you can get the Moonlight Sword by bypassing the boss. After all, the way here is too far and I don’t want to die.

  • @alter6243
    @alter6243 5 дней назад +3

    I have to agree that the Moonlight Greatsword seems to have been heavily inspired by the Master Sword from Zelda. Similar upgrade process in many of the games to its original incarnation. Not to mention it has a very similar color scheme and the same gimmick of launching a beam/slash.

  • @kevgmei
    @kevgmei 4 дня назад +1

    Ninja Blade also has one more appearance of the chaos blade, this time aptly being called the ninja blade

  • @kamerona4723
    @kamerona4723 4 дня назад +1

    Im surprised to learn that it wasn't in another century but i guess armored core only made 1 appearance in that entire series and it was nineball and it wasn't even a version of nineball that would have the moonlight greatsword

  • @slh8505
    @slh8505 2 дня назад

    In the Dark Souls series, there's a theory that Patches is, in fact, the furtive pygmy who first found the dark soul, which would explain is seemingly undying nature, and why he gives you his blessing to find the dark soul after his last kick in the DLC.

  • @kevgmei
    @kevgmei 4 дня назад +1

    "The beginning of humankind, 1994" I was born in 1994! Does that make me the primeval man?

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  3 дня назад

      🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

  • @KingSleaze916
    @KingSleaze916 5 дней назад +3

    People making Reddit posts about the game being too difficult
    Then the obligatory “Git Gud” comments are probably one of the longest running FS traditions….

  • @LeitadaRala
    @LeitadaRala 4 дня назад +2

    Patches can be found in armored core master of arena

  • @berzerk-_-fury5470
    @berzerk-_-fury5470 3 дня назад

    Armored Core 6 has TWO moonlights. On your 3rd playthrough you unlock the 'ML-Redshift' aka Moon Light Redshift. Basically identical but red, stronger normal attacks but weaker charged attacks. So they both have their use cases.

  • @kormana
    @kormana 4 дня назад +1

    id kinda say RoB is chaos blade since its stated to be cursed and is very powerful, and the self dmg just became mental damage for people using it xd

  • @f2t948
    @f2t948 4 дня назад +1

    Ah yes the fromsoft sword
    My guiding meme

  • @johnarnold7984
    @johnarnold7984 4 дня назад +1

    In Sekiro you receive Kusabimaru from Kuro in the Moon Viewing Tower. So it could be argued that Kusabimari is the Moonlight Greatsword.

  • @bihn
    @bihn 3 дня назад

    The magic sword Makoto is much more similar to the Chaos blade than the Hiltless. The Hiltless hurts the user physically in an obvious way, but the Makoto is cursed, eating away at the wielder's soul instead.
    it's unknown exactly why the Chaos blade hurts the user, but it's cursed nature is much more in-line with the Makoto.

  • @metarenegade
    @metarenegade 2 дня назад

    I didn’t think the chaos blade was more iconic than the washing pole

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      "iconic" doesn't make it longer lasting lol. Washing Pole was only in Dark Souls 1 - 3, and I guess you can count it is as Nagakiba in Elden Ring, but that still loses to Chaos Blade variants

  • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
    @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 5 дней назад +5

    Lol patches. Myazaki will never stop effing with us through this epic character haha.

  • @sternwayprovider
    @sternwayprovider 5 дней назад +4

    goated video

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад

      I had fun making it 🫸🫷

  • @raysandrarexxia941
    @raysandrarexxia941 3 дня назад

    I started with Armored Core 2. There are 2 weapons that recur in almost every game: Moonlight blade and the Karasawa

  • @MINTY_FN
    @MINTY_FN 4 дня назад +2

    I'm surprised you didn't include Crestfallen in this as its own count. He's in DeS, all three Dark Souls games in some capacity, and he was in Kings Field 4.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад

      Seems to me like it'd be roughly on par with Chaos Blade if anything then, but def wasn't aware of KF4

  • @Anch0rd
    @Anch0rd 3 дня назад

    Poison swamps. Legit exists in every game

  • @tonysladky8925
    @tonysladky8925 4 дня назад

    It probably doesn't count, being just the AC6 version of Moonlight, only in red and with slightly different stats, but i kinda want to count the IA-C01W7: ML-Redshift Coral Oscillator as the Armored Core 6 version of the Chaos Blade.

  • @InternetPeopleAreNotReal
    @InternetPeopleAreNotReal 4 дня назад

    *Cries in Kurosawa*

  • @pancholopez8829
    @pancholopez8829 3 дня назад

    Surprised you didn't added Patches from Master of Arena. So Patches was in 2 Armored Core games. Master of Arena in the extra arena. And For Answer.
    Also, fun fact, Patches' VA from For Answer is in AC6 as Walter.

  • @OtherMomo
    @OtherMomo 4 дня назад +1

    You failed to mentioned the sword of Moonlight incantation in DS3 ringed city dlc, the description of that spell implies it is an even more real version of the Sword Of Moonlight than the one you can find in the base game.

  • @Zombi3kill3rOO
    @Zombi3kill3rOO 4 дня назад

    the moonveil is kinda a mix of chaos blade and the moonlight greatsword

    • @Armored_Core_Guy
      @Armored_Core_Guy 3 дня назад +2

      I think moonveil might be a reference to armored core, in AC 4 one of the rayleonard pilots uses an ac equipped with the moonlight but he has an emblem of a katana cutting open the moon.

  • @whimsycole246
    @whimsycole246 5 дней назад +2

    Thanks, gonna go boot up Elden Ring and kill Patches with the DMGS! B)

  • @mattwcook9127
    @mattwcook9127 2 дня назад

    It's the MGS.

  • @xian1978
    @xian1978 4 дня назад +1

    How about the Crestfallen Knight?

    • @xian1978
      @xian1978 4 дня назад

      BTW, you should definitely play Armored Core. I am NOT a Mecha fan but I really enjoyed it. I think that it's really worth trying even if you're not interested in the genre. I though I was going to hate it but I bought it to show support to From, and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

  • @Mars-pw4iw
    @Mars-pw4iw 2 дня назад

    Whats the background songs name used in the ancient times section?

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      all the music is in the pinned comment 👌

  • @be4stly
    @be4stly 4 дня назад

    what boss theme was playing during the ds3 segment?

  • @donnurk3523
    @donnurk3523 5 дней назад

    shouldn't Armored Core 6 count as 2 for the moonlight greatsword? as there is a 2nd version of it being more powerful and being red colored, called ML-Redshift, works the exact same as the other moonlight sword in ac6

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад

      there's a few I might've been able to, there's like 3 variants in the some of the last few ACs, but its okay, Patches is already dead loool

  • @FreekinEkin2
    @FreekinEkin2 4 дня назад

    Shouldn't the moonlight sword be included twice if you're counting patches twice? There are two separate moonlight swords in DS2

  • @VioletSilence
    @VioletSilence 4 дня назад

    Of course I've heard about Armored Core and King's Field, but wtf is Eternal Ring

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  4 дня назад

      funnily enough it's probably up there on the pre-Demon's Souls games people know about, but def not at the same level as KF and AC

  • @justasiggurk4614
    @justasiggurk4614 5 дней назад

    Wait, didnt the er dlc include a chaos blade equivalent or am I going crazy?

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +2

      Nah, Sword of Night and some Great Katanas, think that's all

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +1

      Oh and Star Lined Sword

  • @KatteJo
    @KatteJo 5 дней назад

    Taylor Angela Young Jennifer Miller Elizabeth

  • @LadyMoonboy
    @LadyMoonboy 5 дней назад

    If you count the Chaos Blade and Moonlight Greatsword why not include the Guts sword, Zweihänder, Claymore, Bastard Sword, Lucerne, Scimitar and all the rest that appear in more than one Souls game.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  5 дней назад +5

      Oh I meant to put this in the pinned comments, thanks for reminding me
      Basically because a vast majority of those types of weapons are based on real life weapons, so its not really *their* staple if that makes sense

  • @clankymocha
    @clankymocha 5 дней назад

    Including the chaos blade is such a bizzare decision that comes out of nowhere, you could have picked something generic like the "longsword" or "claymore" or "whip" or "greatshield that restored health" or even "small shield that excells at blocking magic damage" and you'd have way more appearances 💀

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 3 дня назад

    So Patches doesn't have to be named Patches in order to be the character, just some loose ties. I saw the one video as well and wasn't sold. Miyazaki himself states when Patches was first introduced in their games, his concept, and that was in Armored Core: For Answer. I think fans want things to be a certain way and overlook things like that.

    • @BertoPlease
      @BertoPlease  День назад

      I don't really know how you see the bridge collapse segment in Shadow Tower Abyss and not think it's identical to the Catacombs trick he pulls on you. Even if the character was only fully established as we know it today in Demon's Souls and onward, there's no saying whether another dev recalled that and decided to adapt it into Dark Souls, even if it was without Miyazaki's knowledge. He wasn't even in the company yet so he might've not known or recalled that character either

    • @blumiu2426
      @blumiu2426 День назад

      @@BertoPlease No, Miyazaki says Patches came to be in Armored Core, his concept. You are trying to say a concept is evidence of something being a thing, and not a concept being adapted into what you would be known as Patches. Similarities don't matter, because "Patches" has to be in the name to be Patches. This has been the rule for as long as I can remember, set by the guy that conceived him, but fans want to override this fact for what?
      It's like saying Sephiroth, Geralt and any other white haired, powerful, ambiguous or anti-hero character is Elric of Melniboné because the concept of that archetype came from him. Miyazaki gave an identity to an idea once used, but that idea is not that notable identity that sprang from it.

  • @JoaoVictor-rg5ix
    @JoaoVictor-rg5ix 15 часов назад

    Biggest L in this video was not considering the swamps as a Callback.
    Shame on you mah mate. Shame on you.
    0/10 video. Do not recommend.

  • @RippahRooJizah
    @RippahRooJizah 18 часов назад

    Well, coming in I already knew the answer. I was an Armored Core and Echo Night fan prior to playing Dark Souls.

  • @Comfyest
    @Comfyest День назад

    I feel like the only misatributed reference to the MLGS is in Sekiro, since the Divine Dragon's Sword is much more directly a Seven-Branched Sword (七支刀 in Japanese), which is a real sword with no known origin, which lead to speculation.

  • @BulletBoy2011
    @BulletBoy2011 15 часов назад

    I never considered that patches dying in base ds3 and still appearing in the dlc could actually mean that their might just be generations of patches rather than one true patches

  • @namelessking8049
    @namelessking8049 День назад

    The finger weapon...
    heard it from old AC series being the strongest but its name did a big return to ER and some certain messages lol

  • @Shooting_freak7
    @Shooting_freak7 9 часов назад

    Dodge