People bemoan the end of production of the Daytona 955i and Sprint RS so when Truimph actually make something similar with top notch build quality, suspension, engine and brakes, yet reviewers then moan about the riding position yet cannot find any actual faults with it. This bike is for those who love the brand, the RS1200 engine and chassis but want some form of wind protection and also a riding position that is superior for track riding. Having ridden supernakeds for a few years, I now own an RR after being sold after a test ride. The suspension and brakes are simply the best I have ever experienced, the engine is perfect for the road and it loves to rev for track. The riding position is fine, noting near as extreme as a new fireblade or ZX10, yet not as sit up and beg as the likes of an RS660. When you ride fast on track, wide bared supernakeds become a little unstable at high speed and you just do not get the feeling on the front end you get with clip-ons. My advice, test ride one and if you are considering one, you will be sold on it.
I completely agree with you, they didn't ruin the Speed Triple, it's a masterpiece. It's strange how many commenters can't imagine that some people (like me) prefer clipons.
Man, I think it’s awesome…but it is definitely extremely “sporty” for me. I rode it for a good 30 minutes today, and I was ready to get off. I did a bit of freeway, mid speed roads, and then stoplight traffic. I would absolutely LOVE to rip this thing on a track…unfortunately, the closest one to me is three hours away. I’m sure I would get more used to the riding position quickly. For context, I currently own a ‘16 Speed… The engine is sublime, honestly everything is amazing, I guess I’m just old and bent to that more upright naked position. As I type this my wrists and upper back are a bit sore from a 30 minute ride 4-5 hours ago. I love the looks, and would absolutely consider one in my garage if I had a track near me and did more of that…
I just bought the red version. It is NOT a sport bike but a Retro naked bike. A true 21'st century Cafe Racer. It looks fabulous next to my Thruxton R with it's classic fairing. The RR is at home on long twisties and not slow country roads like you are riding. It's a track day canyon carving machine.
Any issues with it? Really like them but I have heard lots of people have had to send them back for warranty work and all sorts. Some even gave them back for a refund.
I test rode one and fell in one with it. I found the riding position wasn’t as extreme as a dedicated sports bike, the brakes and suspension are phenomenal, power delivery perfect, and it just looks gorgeous. Trouble is I just can’t justify spending 18k on what would essentially be a toy! I also think that options such as tpms and heated grips should be standard at that price point.
Update on previous comments. I've now ridden my 1200rr on the track. Bike replaced my 1299 panigale which I thought I would miss on the track. I didn't miss the Pani at all which shows me how good the 1200rr is. I'm about half way up the fast group but shows me you have to be really super fast to exploit the extra performance the panigale can give you. Plus 1200rr is easier to ride on the track than the Pani. So for me it's a great all round sports bike
Great vid Andy, I think the indicator may be down to the settings. On the advance setting sliding the switch only activates a quick flash (lane changing etc.), to activate the full indicator you have to slide it for an extra split second. You get used to it after a while and I find it really useful for overtaking / lane changing etc. You can turn this setting off and have normal 'self cancelling' or no cancelling at all.
Absolutely love the look of this bike, all the right kit etc, I'm going to get a test ride soon just to get it out of my system. I know within twenty minutes I'll be back at the dealer in pain suffering the indignity of a broken middle aged body 😅
I love this bike! Had the recall brake bolts serviced and update for the dash to eliminate the low oil pressure warning. The indicators with a touch will stay on 3 blinks good for changing lanes. A longer hold with keep them on longer like at a stop light. So happy with this bike. Had a 2011 Speedy till I got this new 1200RR. Cheers Andy 🍻
thanks for the review. Have bought a new, old stock triple 1200 RR (2022 Dec. made) for a little over Ł14k (English pounds) and can't wait to receive it in the next couple of weeks. What category I would chose to place it? it is a gorgeous, powerful street bike that, in the right hands will shred tires as well as carve corners or Ill take it to Sepang and get some lap times in. I don't understand why motorbikes have to be categorised and criticised if they don't fit the norm. It is encouraging that Triumph made this bike because it is different and not a flash in the pan! In regards to categorising this is that it seems that all you bloggers stack on comments for each other and support your strange views on to the bike public. Every bike will have Knicks and knacks like indicator buttons or unusual placement. Let me tell you there is a thing called getting used to it. Not to be too critical is actually a nice change of things. stay professional and fair in views and if someone wants to spend money than so be it. I had a street fighter V4 and all the people rave about it. I did too but tires and petrol cost and servicing was just too high to make it a bike for me. So, I sold it within 14 months and it took me 18 months to find this beauty here. Can't wait. Thanks for the video and maybe look at your old videos where you have been more enthusiastic about the bikes tested.
@@Erik-xy5xjloving it and thanks for asking. Changed rear set and tail tidy as well as the chain to a gold bling DID and about to change my first rear tire after 3.5k km. Lots of torque, speed and the öhlins as well as stylema brakes are top level. The engine is the same as the RS. So a dream sound speed. I take it to the twisties and she points and shoots very accurately. Overall, my SFV4 is not missed. Oh yes, I don’t have to be at the petrol station until 240km are done. SF was half that. So yes, very happy! ❤ @papapanigale
I’m with you. I like having a ‘proper’ sportsbike and a naked. But if I could only own one bike, then it might be this, because it’s a bit of both. And I think it’s great they tried something a bit different. Having ridden it myself, I can say it certainly felt to me a bit more practical on the road than a full-blooded sportsbike.
The whole reason naked bikes exist is that they do more than one thing well. If your sportbike is not full sportbike but more like a naked.... you're getting something that can sort of do it all, that is the point after all
I know that I'm really late to the party, but i finally took one of these out today. My daily commuter is an '05 955i Daytona. I found the RR to be less 'sporty' in the riding position and therefore less weight on my wrists. It also feels less aggressive when you wind the throttle wide open, but then you look down and see that you are WAY above the speed limit. If I could justify spending $24k (NZD) I think that I could quite happily live with it as a daily but it does need different bar end weights to get rid of the vibrations at motorway speeds. And it needs is a better (louder) exhaust.
Rode the normal RS on a test ride and it was a monster but threw a low oil pressure fault (dodgy sensor production apparently). Triumph really need to wait a bit and release their bikes when they’re ready
Just got mine a week ago and I love it. Everything you said about it is true but that's what makes it special imo. I love something that stands out in a crowd,and this is definately one of those things. I still have my GS if I want to go touring or ride 2 up, as an only bike might not be that practical. Have done a good 2 to 3 hours on it without any fatigue though. Oh and by the way if you only tap the indicator it flashes twice and goes off. That's what might have happened in your case.
@@andrewprice1189 I kept getting a "low oil pressure" warning. Did a software update, seems to be sorted. My cousin bought the RS and had a oil leak at the oil cap. They replaced the oil cap and seems to be sorted. I traded my 2020 Rocket on this bike, this is not good news😂🤦♂️
@@worldwide_motorcycles9163 I have also had the low oil pressure light & a transmission fault light (which was quickshifter failure) Check that you front indicators are not vibrating with the fan running. Also a recall on rear brake disc mounting bolts that may fall out. IMHO Triumph are having quality control issues & lack of proper testing & development on 1200 rs & rr plus a lot of components are obviously being sourced from China ie disc bolts with dodgy threads & faulty cooling fan motors etc
They really need to make a Speed Triple with the round headlight , fairing and trick electronic suspension from the RR , with upright handlebars from the RS. (edit : and you pretty much said that towards the end of the video . I should wait until I've finished watching before commenting !) I could be interested in a Speed Triple like that, assuming I could afford it.
You mention 3 bikes you'd buy instead of the RR in 3 different categories. The RR can fulfil those roles (maybe not to quite the same level) but it's aimed at covering those markets. I hope it does well as it's a beautiful machine to my eye.
You're right about the indicator problem Andy, I'd a similar problem with my Street triple , to indicate left you had to hold the indicator switch against the stop for a second minimum, when I mentioned this at the first service they opened it up and said it was a faulty contact which they replaced, problem solved.
I got mine in early Feb, fell in love with the looks.At 55 just wish the bars were an inch or two higher. Your neck gets it the most being cricked back most of the time. 50% of the time I think it's the best bike I've ever had ( I also have a streetfighter V4) & 50% of the time I'm think mmmm maybe shouldn't have bought this! just wish they would put the electronic suspension on the RS
I really love the looks and I do covet that suspension setup; but I think this was a styling exercise only. I would hope that they drop the clip-on's and add that suspension to a trim level of the Speed Triple as you suggest in the video. That'd be a killer package.
Ok, as a follower for some years I know you (and I love a Triumph I have owned, trophy SE, 1050 sport, 800 tiger, 1200 xca, speed rs, street rs, thruxton r…..yea I know happy memories indeed) garage is empty now. I’m coming back to 2 wheels…commute is just under 90 miles fast road 85%. I like the 900 tiger and feel comfy on the RS 1200 but do I ever love this RR. I could see days off spent on the RR and days off leaving the tiger in the garage. Your a biker, triumph fan and lived with them. If you a brew on and time id really appreciate you’re honest opinion for a purchase over the winter. Kindest regards (appreciate you have a life and busy man) Tris
Not sure anyone else has commented but with regards to the indicators. I suspect you had them on auto advance mode. A quick prod and it only flashes about 3 or 4 times (for lane changes I guess) you have to hold the switch (left or right) a little longer for it to flash for longer and then it will turn off automatically depending on the conditions (time/distance/lean etc). You can change this feature in the settings. Hope this helps.
Glad you're recovering from Covid Andy. It will be interesting to see how it goes. I tend to agree that it will only appeal to those that like the look. A bit like my Thruxton R which I updated with the Cafe Fairing, Vance and Hines exhaust etc.. IMHO, it looks really amazing, sounds fantastic, and rides wonderfully, but those lowered clip-ons makes the riding position really uncomfortable. The longest ride I have done in one day was 250 miles and I was completely fatigued, wrists throbbing and left it in the garage for a month. So I went out and bought an R1250GS (of which I am very, very grateful for your advice), less sporty looking, but oh so comfortable!!
Well I think you might be missing the point. I think it was supposed to be a capable race bike wrapped up in the more comfortable package. So I guess my question is..... is it more comfortable to ride than a supersport or full blown race bike?
It gave me a bit of knee ache but nothing I couldn't get used to. In contrast I found the S1000RR a bit wide on my hips. No back or wrist issues with either.
You’re spot on Andy. With the RR Triumph have produced a beautiful bike which fits a niche that doesn’t really exist. Putting the the electronic Ohlins on the the R/S would have been smarter move. But if you’ve £18k burning a hole in your pocket and want something more exclusive, the Speed Triple RR is the one.
Triumph should create a comfy sport tourer like the VFR of old using the Speed as a base. No need for Ohlins just the Stylema brakes and they will sell bucket loads.
Hi Andy, firstly glad to hear you got over your bout of Covid, and is a distant not so good memory. Now the bike, I think you summed it up perfectly for me, which is such a shame as undoubtedly it's a lovely bike, but when you can possibly afford the price tag, you may be to old for the riding position, so only time will tell. For Triumph's sake I hope we are massively wrong and they sell shed loads. Thank you...
07:50 You can get some carbon for the bike as well. Seen the ESL cover stick on cover done in carbon for the RS and will probably be available for the RR soon. Trying to remove that is a ball ache.
Some things don't need to be logical, ir require an explanation. Like our choice in the better half, you go with how you feel. And nothing wrong with that. It wouldn't be my choice I can appreciate it for what it is. So much choice in bikes. Diversity relates to much more than the obvious. And the world is all the better for it. Your efforts in producing the Brucie Bonus are appreciated. Happy travels 👍
Re- your comment on the indicator switch, I have found with mine (RS) if you press a little too hard when going for the left indicator it cancels as you select it. Not the best piece of design...
A friend of mine just bought one of these. I'll get to check it out in a few hours. Hopefully at some point I'll get to take it out for a ride to check it out properly. I've ridden his 2020 Street Triple RS and 2016 Thruxton 1200 R and both are excellent bikes but I fell in love with the Thruxton R. So now I need one of those or possibly a Speed Twin.
The issue with the indicator is that if you flick the Turn indicator it will go for 3 secs then turn off, you need to hold it longer to active it for 8 secs and same distance, i dont like how that have done that as it’s annoying to remember to hold it longer and then i find it doesn’t turn off fast enough.
I can pick new old stock up for 12.5kGBP so it has me thinking of adding one. I have a 2017 R nineT with a fairing already and a 2023 ZH2 for high speed naked, although the power to weight ratio on this is better than the ZH2.
Hi Mr Flyer! First time I’ve left a comment on your channel, so I’ll take the opportunity to say how much I enjoy your content. I’m with you when you say this triple looks so much better in the ‘flesh’ so to speak. However, rather than try to categorise it too much and compare it with others I recon I could love it as the kind of very handsome bike you park up and give a few proud glances back at. Oh and can’t resist saying, I recon the classic bike you spotted on your run was a Suzuki GT 750….lovely. Look forward to your next one 👍
They look wonderful but i am far too old for my creaky bones buying something with a seating position like that, the bike you saw on your travels was a Suzuki 750 GT water cooled, a absolute legend of a machine!!
I really like the look of these, had a sit on one yesterday at a Triumph dealer. Took my Daytona in for service and MOT and the salesman was trying to get me to go out on a test ride. I was like mate it’s abit out of my price range unfortunately. Keep thinking about it though, I do REALLY like the look of them in red and black
I don't understand the cost comparison to the S1000RR. You can easily make the BMW cost more with options like the carbon pack and dynamic suspension, and the S1000RR just feels cheaper in terms of fit and finish (unless perhaps you spec the carbon and titanium exhaust for what, 5k more?). I rode the S1000RR around 500km last year, mostly a UK weekend rental but also some test rides in Switzerland. I prefer the Triumph, it feels lighter, narrower and more premium.
I love the looks of this bike although I can never see myself owning own for the reasons of comfort. I own a 2013 speed triple R which is perfect. On the subject of the Yamaha Nikon one went past my house yesterday the 1st I’ve seen on the road 😃
I’ve just traded in my Thruxton RS for a Speed Triple RR. Looking to seeing what the fuss (positive and negative) is all about. I can’t imagine the riding position being much worse than the Thruxton mind. Just need to wrap it before it arrives before Christmas :-)
It’s strange nobody mentions how similar the styling if the Triumph is to the Moto Guzzi V11 Le Mans. That was way ahead of the curve in the modern classic / retro trend.
I agree Andy, if I wanted a sports bike I would buy a proper sports bike and if I wanted sporty comfort I would get a naked. Maybe I will be proven wrong but I don't really get this bike, particularly as they already have the retro cafe style Thruxton. Personally I would like to have seen Triumph make a new Daytona, maybe a 1000cc to take on the BMW S1000RR and others.
It would be great if you rode this back to back with the Speed Triple RS.... I've had all the Speed Triples from the MKII and loved them all and they have been real fast ROAD bikes. All I hear about the new RS is its very choppy and track focused. But this RR I've heard is a better road bike. May be do as Daytona did in Ruislip (built the Speed Quattro all those years ago from the 1200 Daytona) and turn the RR into the RS...??? I'd be really interested in your thoughts on this??? Great video's as ever, keep um coming please.....
thanks again for another good review and hope your feeling better I've a paniu v4s and a neosport cb1000r thinking about a street fighter v4sp , although a price bracket above the triumph rr which would you prefer if making the choice thanks j
I have mine in small and it’s perhaps a little tight so I would say the sizing is on the small side. Great jacket though, thanks for watching my video and for stopping by.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, OK. Very droll. Obviously what I meant was where is it mounted onto bike. Can't see any bracket arm on fender or frame. Forget it, no longer interested.
😢covid I guess we are all going to get it eventually wish you a speedy recovery. Planning a trip to Europe next year with your pal at canary tours while visiting relatives in the uk. May play it safe and go with the Honda cb500x. This triumph would not be for me and the wife prefer the more comfortable adventure bike style.
flash in the pan me thinks... however when at my triumph dealer a discussion was happening between the sales guys and a couple clients they sold the 1200 speed triple, both have complaints how harsh the front end was and no matter how you soften or have it set up its unstable around the twisties when hit even the smallest bump, I tested one and felt exactly the same, now if they put this active suspension off the RR on the RS would make it a far far better bike and less feel like a track-focused naked which makes NO sense at all. After my 3 hour trial, the sales guy said you could change out the springs and a few have, my reply was "not on a bike I've just paid you over 15k for"
Hi Andy, Hope your recovered from the covid.Triumph RR I agree with you it’s not so practical a bike , and I also with that money go for a S1000rr, Aprilia. I think the Rs standard speed triple has been ridiculed by nearly every test report for being tooo hard suspension, which isn’t fun on a long ride on roads. I believe if they fit the standard Speed Triple RS with Öhlins (Agreat Swedish Company 😂👍)they would sell by the shedload, as a better upright seating position and complient ride .Great blog cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪🏍👍🍻🍻
Saw one at the dealership and thought it was the prettiest bike I've seen in a long while. That said, I'd go for the RS -- your comparison with the RnineT Racer is spot on; that was unridably uncomfortable. If I wanted performance, looks, and discomfort, I'd get a Ducati.
Another beautiful bike from Triumph, Great to see the reviews of the bikes you test ride, I'm not in the market for a new bike but the cost would put me off and the fact that I can no longer ride anything with a sports bike riding position ,Not that I have ever owned a sports bike or had the desire for one have tried a few out years ago wasn't for me , , I like the more upright touring bikes ,
Sorry to hear about your health problems in April. I kinda agree on the comfort and all the comparisons except the KTM Super Duke R and Yamaha 3 wheeler those are not near as beautiful as the Triumph in my eyes.
Another great review, I think you're spot on regarding the bike. I believe Triumph should've made it like the old half faired Sprint RS with a more forgiving riding position and have the semi-active suspension as an option or a deluxe version. I don't think it is going to be a big seller, Total Triumph near me in Taunton are already doing them for £2k off!
You’ve highlighted the problem perfectly with this bike, it doesn’t have a defined target audience. Sales are slower than forecast according to my dealer and you can get £2k off if you haggle hard enough.
Checking out that jogger 2.43😂 I love the look of the RR but bought the Trident for practicality reasons as I live in the Paris region and spend half the time filtering. After, the 18mph speed limit, a new law is coming in here to make all petrol bikes pay prohibitive prices to park anywhere. It looks like the end of biking here😪I might have to test ride a Zero as electric bikes can continue to park free. Love to hear your opinion if you've tested one or anything similar.
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks Andy. Will check it out! 🤣 This is definitely the wrong area for bikers. Straight roads and stupid laws. Ride safe and keep up the good work
Revisiting this Andy as, seriously considering the new street triple rs and with the necessary add ons realised I could afford a year old Speed rs, which to me is the perfect combination of sportsbike and gorgeous retro looks totally get it, and that wonderful 1200 engine.
@@TheMissendenFlyer had the test ride today and loved it, think it helps to be tall as the reach to the lower bars fine, will be buying this beauty this summer.😊
Interesting comment about the indicators, I tested a Tiger 660 the other day and had the same issue. Found I had to hold the switch across for a few seconds before it seemed to ‘latch’ the electronics…
I really love the fairing for the RR. As an RS owner I would have loved a RR version without clips. My hands re just noch happy with any kind of clip ons. I'm already looking for the first RR like conversions with RS hardware. Oh and even with the clip ons: If this bike would habe been available last October it still may could have ended in my garage. I'm definitely in the target group of this bike. Love the engine and already did some longer tours with the RS. Could possible hat the 10K this year alone wich would be a first for me. The usability of the offered power of this engine is something I just do not want to miss in the future.
Completely agree. It kind of feels like a rich person’s track bike… but even then I though this rich person would have to have a few bikes in the garage already to get around to choosing it.
@@Bobby-wn5yr Yeah, if it was a rich persons only bike it has all the specs you'd expect of a track weapon. But it's unlikely you'd pick it over a more focused, fully faired option
Wait a minute, Mr Flyer. While I was trying to pay attention to your excellent review, I was distracted by some pretty impressive video work, eg. your smooth panning around to follow the E-Type (and the lady runner). At times you seem to have a drone camera hovering about your starboard quarter, which I suspect involves a fish-eye much closer in. I think we need an explanation of this sorcery!
Hope you're feeling better after Covid. (Arr edit see you recorded in April so guess you are) Lovely bike, great engine but wrong riding position for a big guy like me. Wonder if they are actually going to build a Tiger Sport 1200?
Regarding the issue with the indicator switch. I've got a 2022 Tiger 850 Sport which I absolutely love with one exception: the indicator self cancelling kicks in with virtually any side to side movement. I'm forced to hold off switching them on till I'm certain the bike is perfectly straight! Pretty annoying for sure.
Great summary, I share your confusion. I need one bike to do lots of jobs so I own a GS, I would love a second bike but can’t get permission… If I did then I too would go sports bike or retro so wonder about the 1200RR. It’s a ton of cash and I think on balance I would have a speed twin!
It looks like the R9t racer revisited in a way. A similar recipe using a comfy naked bike as the donor and adding a retro fairing and clip ons. Ok so the BMW wasn't as modern or fast but it was cheaper and both suffer from the same issues. The Beemer got binned because it just didn't sell so the Triumph is likely to go the same way and anyone who's bought one will suffer heavy depreciation because it won't sell. So if you do fancy one get it on a PCP to edge your bets so you can just hand it back at the end of the term and walk away if the used value bombs.
@@TheMissendenFlyer You're correct of course but at the moment it could go either way so a PCP which many do anyway seems like a less risky option as by the time the 3 years is up the position would become clearer? So you'd have the optionwhether to hand it back or pay the balance and keep it.
I’m intrigued, if you were to review this again with the information that most dealers were selling them for £14k (mine included) would that have changed your opinion? When I bought mine I thought it was a lot of bike for the £14k albeit still a lot of money. I wouldn’t have paid £18k.
No - even if it were £8K I still wouldn't buy one as I personally found it extremely uncomfortable on all but the shortest ride. It's a lovely bike, but not for me for that single reason.....
Love the look of the bike, but just way too expensive for me, shame that triumph don't make make a street triple RR or a trident RR might be more up my street.
Hi Andy. Shame you feel the need to start vids with that "small print" thingy. If folks can't see your (great) channel for what you intend it to be, then thats their issue. Keep up the good work. Do you have anymore flying coming up? Regards, Rich.
I sat on one of these 2 weeks ago next to the regular model. Its just simply not great at either market I was surprised how far forward it was for a naked despite having clip ons. The bike is beautiful & is one of the best looking bikes on the market today and looks alone would be why some people will still buy it. I think the easiest fix is to put handlebars back & make the position equal to the other Models & make the fairings work with it. I think if Triumph actually do it the bike will sell easily. Also for the suggestion box make a fully faired version with both the 765 & 1050 and bring back the Daytona name to the regular market.
After recently buying an old yellow Daytona with cow-horn handlebars and having to replace them with og clip-ons, I have to say that it is the clip-ons that affect the riding position, not the fairing. Mixing the two does make the bike look less sporty 'n all. I originally bought a brand new T509 Speed Triple (and then replaced it with Y2K 955i) and I had both those bikes fitted with Daytona clip-ons. The original T509 factory Speed Triple had clip-ons when they came out, as did the steel frame Mk 1 Bloor versions. If people bang on constantly about supposed comfort improvements then we'll all end up on ADVs. I do like the look of the new bike, thinking it brings the Speed Triple identity back to it's original format, but would avoid it because of EURO5.
The acid test will be sales and try as I might I can't find details on models sold for the RR. If its not the success hoped for then there's every reason to hope the better suspension makes it across to the RS. But, for me, I'd take an S version anyday, minus much of the electronics, I'd live with Showa suspension, lose keyless and quikshifter and 4 grand off the price of the RS .😁
Looks like a throwback to the late '90s "street sports", like the Suzuki TL1000S, Honda VTR1000F, BMW R1200S or Yamaha TRX 850. Can't think of another current example, although I guess the Ducati Supersport 950 probably isn't far off, despite the full fairing.
nice summation, Andy! it is sort of like a bunch of years ago, Suzuki and the SV650 - going from the unfaired sport standard to the part-faired more sporty sister. nothing wrong with either machine, but other than trying to fill segments of the (very fractured) market, what was the point? Cheers from BC Canada!
Great bike, but costs way to much. I think Triumph will struggle with this one. Andy, Another great video. You should run a poll asking, How much would one spend on a bike like this? 0 - £10k £10k - £15k £15k or more Would be super interesting to know.
@@TheMissendenFlyerI have my eye on a pre-owned 22 with 4600 miles. Two owners, and one open recall. I’m not too worried about the service recall. I’m just wondering if any other caveats to address
@@TheMissendenFlyerI track a gen5 zx10r. But that’s only for 20 minute sessions. Even on the street, it’s doable for an all day Sunday group ride. Just looking for something “in-between”.
Nice fair review & I totally agree with you. Nothing wrong with it as such but it's neither one thing or the other, expensive & who's going to buy it? Not sure if this would sufficiently broaden it's appeal enough but I think the clip-ons should be above the yoke to clearly differentiate it as road based sport bike, like the Aprilia RS660.
I can get one for 13,000 pounds new, would it be worth it at that price for a sports bike for the weekends? Did you find the seat uncomfortable compared to other sports bikes?
Yes I do - I'm afraid if it was £10K I still wouldn't buy one for riding (looking at maybe!)....very uncomfortable place to be. Lovely bike otherwise though!
While I like the idea and looks of this bike, it’s a little too pricey for what I like it for. I still appreciate Triumph producing it though and maybe my thoughts on it will change once they start hitting the second hand market.
People bemoan the end of production of the Daytona 955i and Sprint RS so when Truimph actually make something similar with top notch build quality, suspension, engine and brakes, yet reviewers then moan about the riding position yet cannot find any actual faults with it. This bike is for those who love the brand, the RS1200 engine and chassis but want some form of wind protection and also a riding position that is superior for track riding. Having ridden supernakeds for a few years, I now own an RR after being sold after a test ride. The suspension and brakes are simply the best I have ever experienced, the engine is perfect for the road and it loves to rev for track. The riding position is fine, noting near as extreme as a new fireblade or ZX10, yet not as sit up and beg as the likes of an RS660. When you ride fast on track, wide bared supernakeds become a little unstable at high speed and you just do not get the feeling on the front end you get with clip-ons.
My advice, test ride one and if you are considering one, you will be sold on it.
Really glad you love it Nick! Beautiful bike....just not for me.
I completely agree with you, they didn't ruin the Speed Triple, it's a masterpiece. It's strange how many commenters can't imagine that some people (like me) prefer clipons.
Man, I think it’s awesome…but it is definitely extremely “sporty” for me. I rode it for a good 30 minutes today, and I was ready to get off. I did a bit of freeway, mid speed roads, and then stoplight traffic. I would absolutely LOVE to rip this thing on a track…unfortunately, the closest one to me is three hours away.
I’m sure I would get more used to the riding position quickly. For context, I currently own a ‘16 Speed… The engine is sublime, honestly everything is amazing, I guess I’m just old and bent to that more upright naked position. As I type this my wrists and upper back are a bit sore from a 30 minute ride 4-5 hours ago. I love the looks, and would absolutely consider one in my garage if I had a track near me and did more of that…
enjoyed that Andy! just done a Triumph RR track day today so perfect video timing. works brilliantly on track I loved it 👍
Yes well you're a hooligan! Question is would you buy one if it was your only bike??
I just bought the red version. It is NOT a sport bike but a Retro naked bike. A true 21'st century Cafe Racer. It looks fabulous next to my Thruxton R with it's classic fairing. The RR is at home on long twisties and not slow country roads like you are riding. It's a track day canyon carving machine.
Any issues with it? Really like them but I have heard lots of people have had to send them back for warranty work and all sorts. Some even gave them back for a refund.
@@Yarrow54 BS!!!
@@ttrguy9952 yours been fine then?
@@Yarrow54 Mine's perfect! I know a ton of guys with the RS version and none of them have had any problems. Don't believe anything on the internet!!!
I test rode one and fell in one with it. I found the riding position wasn’t as extreme as a dedicated sports bike, the brakes and suspension are phenomenal, power delivery perfect, and it just looks gorgeous. Trouble is I just can’t justify spending 18k on what would essentially be a toy! I also think that options such as tpms and heated grips should be standard at that price point.
Update on previous comments. I've now ridden my 1200rr on the track. Bike replaced my 1299 panigale which I thought I would miss on the track. I didn't miss the Pani at all which shows me how good the 1200rr is. I'm about half way up the fast group but shows me you have to be really super fast to exploit the extra performance the panigale can give you. Plus 1200rr is easier to ride on the track than the Pani. So for me it's a great all round sports bike
That’s brilliant Pete! Enjoy…and thanks for the update….
How is the steering? I’ve heard they’re kinda sluggish to change directions
Great vid Andy, I think the indicator may be down to the settings. On the advance setting sliding the switch only activates a quick flash (lane changing etc.), to activate the full indicator you have to slide it for an extra split second. You get used to it after a while and I find it really useful for overtaking / lane changing etc. You can turn this setting off and have normal 'self cancelling' or no cancelling at all.
Bought this fantastic motorcycle yesterday - will pick it up next week. Can't wait...!
Congratulations! Enjoy your new ride!
Absolutely love the look of this bike, all the right kit etc, I'm going to get a test ride soon just to get it out of my system. I know within twenty minutes I'll be back at the dealer in pain suffering the indignity of a broken middle aged body 😅
I love this bike! Had the recall brake bolts serviced and update for the dash to eliminate the low oil pressure warning. The indicators with a touch will stay on 3 blinks good for changing lanes. A longer hold with keep them on longer like at a stop light. So happy with this bike. Had a 2011 Speedy till I got this new 1200RR. Cheers Andy 🍻
Glad you like it Kenn - ride safe!
thanks for the review. Have bought a new, old stock triple 1200 RR (2022 Dec. made) for a little over Ł14k (English pounds) and can't wait to receive it in the next couple of weeks. What category I would chose to place it? it is a gorgeous, powerful street bike that, in the right hands will shred tires as well as carve corners or Ill take it to Sepang and get some lap times in. I don't understand why motorbikes have to be categorised and criticised if they don't fit the norm. It is encouraging that Triumph made this bike because it is different and not a flash in the pan! In regards to categorising this is that it seems that all you bloggers stack on comments for each other and support your strange views on to the bike public. Every bike will have Knicks and knacks like indicator buttons or unusual placement. Let me tell you there is a thing called getting used to it. Not to be too critical is actually a nice change of things. stay professional and fair in views and if someone wants to spend money than so be it. I had a street fighter V4 and all the people rave about it. I did too but tires and petrol cost and servicing was just too high to make it a bike for me. So, I sold it within 14 months and it took me 18 months to find this beauty here. Can't wait. Thanks for the video and maybe look at your old videos where you have been more enthusiastic about the bikes tested.
Sorry about that - would be untrue if I pretended to like a bike I didn’t. It does look beautiful but was torture to ride! Good luck with it….
how do you like it so far?
@@Erik-xy5xjloving it and thanks for asking. Changed rear set and tail tidy as well as the chain to a gold bling DID and about to change my first rear tire after 3.5k km. Lots of torque, speed and the öhlins as well as stylema brakes are top level. The engine is the same as the RS. So a dream sound speed. I take it to the twisties and she points and shoots very accurately. Overall, my SFV4 is not missed. Oh yes, I don’t have to be at the petrol station until 240km are done. SF was half that. So yes, very happy! ❤ @papapanigale
I’m with you. I like having a ‘proper’ sportsbike and a naked. But if I could only own one bike, then it might be this, because it’s a bit of both. And I think it’s great they tried something a bit different. Having ridden it myself, I can say it certainly felt to me a bit more practical on the road than a full-blooded sportsbike.
That’s exactly why I bought it! Best of both worlds and the looks are stunning!
The whole reason naked bikes exist is that they do more than one thing well. If your sportbike is not full sportbike but more like a naked.... you're getting something that can sort of do it all, that is the point after all
I know that I'm really late to the party, but i finally took one of these out today. My daily commuter is an '05 955i Daytona. I found the RR to be less 'sporty' in the riding position and therefore less weight on my wrists. It also feels less aggressive when you wind the throttle wide open, but then you look down and see that you are WAY above the speed limit. If I could justify spending $24k (NZD) I think that I could quite happily live with it as a daily but it does need different bar end weights to get rid of the vibrations at motorway speeds. And it needs is a better (louder) exhaust.
Rode the normal RS on a test ride and it was a monster but threw a low oil pressure fault (dodgy sensor production apparently). Triumph really need to wait a bit and release their bikes when they’re ready
Just got mine a week ago and I love it. Everything you said about it is true but that's what makes it special imo. I love something that stands out in a crowd,and this is definately one of those things. I still have my GS if I want to go touring or ride 2 up, as an only bike might not be that practical. Have done a good 2 to 3 hours on it without any fatigue though. Oh and by the way if you only tap the indicator it flashes twice and goes off. That's what might have happened in your case.
Had mine 4 months, first two it ran like clockwork then two separate oil leaks, quickshifter failure, cooling fan failure & cold starting issues
@@andrewprice1189 I kept getting a "low oil pressure" warning. Did a software update, seems to be sorted. My cousin bought the RS and had a oil leak at the oil cap. They replaced the oil cap and seems to be sorted. I traded my 2020 Rocket on this bike, this is not good news😂🤦♂️
@@worldwide_motorcycles9163 I have also had the low oil pressure light & a transmission fault light (which was quickshifter failure) Check that you front indicators are not vibrating with the fan running. Also a recall on rear brake disc mounting bolts that may fall out. IMHO Triumph are having quality control issues & lack of proper testing & development on 1200 rs & rr plus a lot of components are obviously being sourced from China ie disc bolts with dodgy threads & faulty cooling fan motors etc
They really need to make a Speed Triple with the round headlight , fairing and trick electronic suspension from the RR , with upright handlebars from the RS.
(edit : and you pretty much said that towards the end of the video . I should wait until I've finished watching before commenting !)
I could be interested in a Speed Triple like that, assuming I could afford it.
You mention 3 bikes you'd buy instead of the RR in 3 different categories. The RR can fulfil those roles (maybe not to quite the same level) but it's aimed at covering those markets. I hope it does well as it's a beautiful machine to my eye.
Hay mate Paul from Australia, I comment on most of your vids and your actually one of my favourite utubers . Keep up the FANTASTIC work .
Hi Paul, thanks very much for your support whilst you keep watching I’ll keep making them - all the best.
You're right about the indicator problem Andy, I'd a similar problem with my Street triple , to indicate left you had to hold the indicator switch against the stop for a second minimum, when I mentioned this at the first service they opened it up and said it was a faulty contact which they replaced, problem solved.
Looks awesome, rides decent but too uncomfortable - prefer the RS overall, just wish it had the same suspension!
Big chance the 2023 RS will get the same suspension and seperate wheelie/traction control like all the other hyper nakeds.
@@tubejorrit Lets hope so! Are you listening Triumph!
I got mine in early Feb, fell in love with the looks.At 55 just wish the bars were an inch or two higher. Your neck gets it the most being cricked back most of the time. 50% of the time I think it's the best bike I've ever had ( I also have a streetfighter V4) & 50% of the time I'm think mmmm maybe shouldn't have bought this! just wish they would put the electronic suspension on the RS
I really love the looks and I do covet that suspension setup; but I think this was a styling exercise only. I would hope that they drop the clip-on's and add that suspension to a trim level of the Speed Triple as you suggest in the video. That'd be a killer package.
I agree. I'd like the fairing and round light, plus trick suspension, but with upright / flat handlebars.
I think I need one of these in my life!
Ok, as a follower for some years I know you (and I love a Triumph I have owned, trophy SE, 1050 sport, 800 tiger, 1200 xca, speed rs, street rs, thruxton r…..yea I know happy memories indeed) garage is empty now. I’m coming back to 2 wheels…commute is just under 90 miles fast road 85%. I like the 900 tiger and feel comfy on the RS 1200 but do I ever love this RR. I could see days off spent on the RR and days off leaving the tiger in the garage. Your a biker, triumph fan and lived with them. If you a brew on and time id really appreciate you’re honest opinion for a purchase over the winter. Kindest regards (appreciate you have a life and busy man) Tris
Too uncomfortable for 90 miles….look elsewhere!
Not sure anyone else has commented but with regards to the indicators. I suspect you had them on auto advance mode. A quick prod and it only flashes about 3 or 4 times (for lane changes I guess) you have to hold the switch (left or right) a little longer for it to flash for longer and then it will turn off automatically depending on the conditions (time/distance/lean etc). You can change this feature in the settings. Hope this helps.
Yes a few have mentioned that!
Glad you're recovering from Covid Andy. It will be interesting to see how it goes. I tend to agree that it will only appeal to those that like the look. A bit like my Thruxton R which I updated with the Cafe Fairing, Vance and Hines exhaust etc.. IMHO, it looks really amazing, sounds fantastic, and rides wonderfully, but those lowered clip-ons makes the riding position really uncomfortable. The longest ride I have done in one day was 250 miles and I was completely fatigued, wrists throbbing and left it in the garage for a month. So I went out and bought an R1250GS (of which I am very, very grateful for your advice), less sporty looking, but oh so comfortable!!
Yes it’s sad but comfort when riding really does count for a lot doesn’t it!
Well I think you might be missing the point. I think it was supposed to be a capable race bike wrapped up in the more comfortable package. So I guess my question is..... is it more comfortable to ride than a supersport or full blown race bike?
Maybe a little but not much - it’s basically a sportsbike pisition, more GSXR or S1000RR than Panigale in terms of comfort.
It gave me a bit of knee ache but nothing I couldn't get used to. In contrast I found the S1000RR a bit wide on my hips. No back or wrist issues with either.
You’re spot on Andy. With the RR Triumph have produced a beautiful bike which fits a niche that doesn’t really exist. Putting the the electronic Ohlins on the the R/S would have been smarter move. But if you’ve £18k burning a hole in your pocket and want something more exclusive, the Speed Triple RR is the one.
Well, the Ducati Supersport falls into the same category and it doesn’t sell too badly.
My old Super Duke had a micro switch indicator switch and it was touch and go if it worked
Triumph should create a comfy sport tourer like the VFR of old using the Speed as a base. No need for Ohlins just the Stylema brakes and they will sell bucket loads.
They did, I owned one for a number of years, did touring, track days and ride outs. Brilliant bike.
Well Andy I'm also a Triumph fan boy like you but I must agree I can't see them selling many of these. Nice review as always 👍
Thanks for watching!
Good honest review. Looks stunning but too expensive.
Hi Andy, firstly glad to hear you got over your bout of Covid, and is a distant not so good memory. Now the bike, I think you summed it up perfectly for me, which is such a shame as undoubtedly it's a lovely bike, but when you can possibly afford the price tag, you may be to old for the riding position, so only time will tell. For Triumph's sake I hope we are massively wrong and they sell shed loads. Thank you...
Yes I'm 100% with you....we shall see!
07:50 You can get some carbon for the bike as well. Seen the ESL cover stick on cover done in carbon for the RS and will probably be available for the RR soon. Trying to remove that is a ball ache.
I see alot of bikes that I like but would never want own. This is one of them.
Some things don't need to be logical, ir require an explanation.
Like our choice in the better half, you go with how you feel. And nothing wrong with that.
It wouldn't be my choice I can appreciate it for what it is.
So much choice in bikes. Diversity relates to much more than the obvious. And the world is all the better for it.
Your efforts in producing the Brucie Bonus are appreciated.
Happy travels 👍
Thanks for watching and stopping by as ever Tenere traveller, much appreciated.
Thanks for a good summary. I agree that it fills a very, very small niche.
I see this bike as a way of being more individual. Might not see many about, but that can be a nice thing as an owner.
True....
Well finished,could be a good Sunday blaster,but I agree.Not enough cache to make me buy one
Re- your comment on the indicator switch, I have found with mine (RS) if you press a little too hard when going for the left indicator it cancels as you select it. Not the best piece of design...
How annoying!
A friend of mine just bought one of these. I'll get to check it out in a few hours. Hopefully at some point I'll get to take it out for a ride to check it out properly. I've ridden his 2020 Street Triple RS and 2016 Thruxton 1200 R and both are excellent bikes but I fell in love with the Thruxton R. So now I need one of those or possibly a Speed Twin.
The issue with the indicator is that if you flick the Turn indicator it will go for 3 secs then turn off, you need to hold it longer to active it for 8 secs and same distance, i dont like how that have done that as it’s annoying to remember to hold it longer and then i find it doesn’t turn off fast enough.
I can sympathise with your shoulders Andy.....I've got arthritis in both mine....bloody painful!
Tell me about it!
I can pick new old stock up for 12.5kGBP so it has me thinking of adding one. I have a 2017 R nineT with a fairing already and a 2023 ZH2 for high speed naked, although the power to weight ratio on this is better than the ZH2.
Hi Mr Flyer! First time I’ve left a comment on your channel, so I’ll take the opportunity to say how much I enjoy your content. I’m with you when you say this triple looks so much better in the ‘flesh’ so to speak. However, rather than try to categorise it too much and compare it with others I recon I could love it as the kind of very handsome bike you park up and give a few proud glances back at. Oh and can’t resist saying, I recon the classic bike you spotted on your run was a Suzuki GT 750….lovely. Look forward to your next one 👍
Yes a few have mentioned that Suzuki Rob - well spotted...and thanks for dropping by at last!
They look wonderful but i am far too old for my creaky bones buying something with a seating position like that, the bike you saw on your travels was a Suzuki 750 GT water cooled, a absolute legend of a machine!!
Yes a few have told me that, well spotted!
I agree with your summary. Hence probably a limited run special. Glad you're on the mend sir.
Cheers Nick - I’m right as rain now, I filmed this a few months back….
I think this with straight bars would be perfect!
I really like the look of these, had a sit on one yesterday at a Triumph dealer. Took my Daytona in for service and MOT and the salesman was trying to get me to go out on a test ride. I was like mate it’s abit out of my price range unfortunately. Keep thinking about it though, I do REALLY like the look of them in red and black
I don't understand the cost comparison to the S1000RR. You can easily make the BMW cost more with options like the carbon pack and dynamic suspension, and the S1000RR just feels cheaper in terms of fit and finish (unless perhaps you spec the carbon and titanium exhaust for what, 5k more?).
I rode the S1000RR around 500km last year, mostly a UK weekend rental but also some test rides in Switzerland. I prefer the Triumph, it feels lighter, narrower and more premium.
Fair enough! Thanks for watching!
I love the looks of this bike although I can never see myself owning own for the reasons of comfort. I own a 2013 speed triple R which is perfect. On the subject of the Yamaha Nikon one went past my house yesterday the 1st I’ve seen on the road 😃
Well spotted!
I’ve just traded in my Thruxton RS for a Speed Triple RR. Looking to seeing what the fuss (positive and negative) is all about. I can’t imagine the riding position being much worse than the Thruxton mind. Just need to wrap it before it arrives before Christmas :-)
It’s strange nobody mentions how similar the styling if the Triumph is to the Moto Guzzi V11 Le Mans. That was way ahead of the curve in the modern classic / retro trend.
Bit of a stretch that. Yes they both have half fairings but that’s about it. Both undeniably lovely bikes though.
I agree Andy, if I wanted a sports bike I would buy a proper sports bike and if I wanted sporty comfort I would get a naked. Maybe I will be proven wrong but I don't really get this bike, particularly as they already have the retro cafe style Thruxton. Personally I would like to have seen Triumph make a new Daytona, maybe a 1000cc to take on the BMW S1000RR and others.
It is so much better looking than the BMW, and you are not going to ride either bike to it's limit on the road. So I'd chose the RR every time.
The bmw looks miles better than this thing
@@Andryk_QV that's an interesting point of view.
Yeah, cheap plastic BMW vs carbon fibre on the Triumph, the paint finish is far better too (stickers on the S1000RR M Package).
They’re both RR bikes.
@@adamschannel8685 that's true.
I test ride the RS, I found it not very good round town, 30 mph in second gear, open the throttle and it started baulking, it's okay on the open road.
It would be great if you rode this back to back with the Speed Triple RS.... I've had all the Speed Triples from the MKII and loved them all and they have been real fast ROAD bikes. All I hear about the new RS is its very choppy and track focused. But this RR I've heard is a better road bike. May be do as Daytona did in Ruislip (built the Speed Quattro all those years ago from the 1200 Daytona) and turn the RR into the RS...??? I'd be really interested in your thoughts on this???
Great video's as ever, keep um coming please.....
thanks again for another good review and hope your feeling better
I've a paniu v4s and a neosport cb1000r
thinking about a street fighter v4sp , although a price bracket above the triumph rr which would you prefer if making the choice
thanks j
Easy - Ducati!
Sorry Andy, I live in oz and im after that segura fubky jacket. Whats the sizing like? Im normally a large in most jackets/ tops.
Cheers mate
I have mine in small and it’s perhaps a little tight so I would say the sizing is on the small side. Great jacket though, thanks for watching my video and for stopping by.
I'd have a go on it, but I'm strictly standard bikes for posture.
You've confirmed everything I said about the market for this bike, good honest review 👌
Glad we concur!
I'm curious. Where is camera mounted for your views from the back right?
Funnily enough - back right!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, OK. Very droll. Obviously what I meant was where is it mounted onto bike. Can't see any bracket arm on fender or frame. Forget it, no longer interested.
Hi sir, i plan to buy one but im 188 cm and is it too uncomfortable for 300/400 km long rides and for city rides and traffic how is it?
It’s uncomfortable period!
😢covid I guess we are all going to get it eventually wish you a speedy recovery. Planning a trip to Europe next year with your pal at canary tours while visiting relatives in the uk. May play it safe and go with the Honda cb500x. This triumph would not be for me and the wife prefer the more comfortable adventure bike style.
Enjoy Malcolm! ….and all recovered now thanks, this was filmed a few weeks back….
flash in the pan me thinks... however when at my triumph dealer a discussion was happening between the sales guys and a couple clients they sold the 1200 speed triple, both have complaints how harsh the front end was and no matter how you soften or have it set up its unstable around the twisties when hit even the smallest bump, I tested one and felt exactly the same, now if they put this active suspension off the RR on the RS would make it a far far better bike and less feel like a track-focused naked which makes NO sense at all. After my 3 hour trial, the sales guy said you could change out the springs and a few have, my reply was "not on a bike I've just paid you over 15k for"
Hi Andy, Hope your recovered from the covid.Triumph RR I agree with you it’s not so practical a bike , and I also with that money go for a S1000rr, Aprilia. I think the Rs standard speed triple has been ridiculed by nearly every test report for being tooo hard suspension, which isn’t fun on a long ride on roads. I believe if they fit the standard Speed Triple RS with Öhlins (Agreat Swedish Company 😂👍)they would sell by the shedload, as a better upright seating position and complient ride .Great blog cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪🏍👍🍻🍻
Cheers Philip!
Saw one at the dealership and thought it was the prettiest bike I've seen in a long while. That said, I'd go for the RS -- your comparison with the RnineT Racer is spot on; that was unridably uncomfortable. If I wanted performance, looks, and discomfort, I'd get a Ducati.
Exactly!
Another beautiful bike from Triumph, Great to see the reviews of the bikes you test ride,
I'm not in the market for a new bike but the cost would put me off and the fact that I can no longer ride anything with a sports bike riding position ,Not that I have ever owned a sports bike or had the desire for one have tried a few out years ago wasn't for me , , I like the more upright touring bikes ,
Sorry to hear about your health problems in April. I kinda agree on the comfort and all the comparisons except the KTM Super Duke R and Yamaha 3 wheeler those are not near as beautiful as the Triumph in my eyes.
The riding position rules it out for me and I would never pay 18 grand for a motorcycle, plenty of nice bikes available for much less than that.
Another great review, I think you're spot on regarding the bike. I believe Triumph should've made it like the old half faired Sprint RS with a more forgiving riding position and have the semi-active suspension as an option or a deluxe version. I don't think it is going to be a big seller, Total Triumph near me in Taunton are already doing them for £2k off!
Yes I can see this going the way of the Dodo sadly…
You’ve highlighted the problem perfectly with this bike, it doesn’t have a defined target audience. Sales are slower than forecast according to my dealer and you can get £2k off if you haggle hard enough.
Checking out that jogger 2.43😂 I love the look of the RR but bought the Trident for practicality reasons as I live in the Paris region and spend half the time filtering. After, the 18mph speed limit, a new law is coming in here to make all petrol bikes pay prohibitive prices to park anywhere. It looks like the end of biking here😪I might have to test ride a Zero as electric bikes can continue to park free. Love to hear your opinion if you've tested one or anything similar.
Yes I have ridden a zero (and fallen off one!) - checkout my review on here somewhere.....I love France, but not so sure I like their biking lawas!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks Andy. Will check it out! 🤣 This is definitely the wrong area for bikers. Straight roads and stupid laws. Ride safe and keep up the good work
Revisiting this Andy as, seriously considering the new street triple rs and with the necessary add ons realised I could afford a year old Speed rs, which to me is the perfect combination of sportsbike and gorgeous retro looks totally get it, and that wonderful 1200 engine.
Meant RR 😆
Defo test ride one at length first - an incredibly uncomfortable bike to ride….but great to look at!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Cheers Andy, yes would definitely need to test ride, not after a back breaking bike at my age lol.
@@TheMissendenFlyer had the test ride today and loved it, think it helps to be tall as the reach to the lower bars fine, will be buying this beauty this summer.😊
Pro . I like it !
Con. I can't afford it, or want the drop handle bar riding position.
Interesting comment about the indicators, I tested a Tiger 660 the other day and had the same issue. Found I had to hold the switch across for a few seconds before it seemed to ‘latch’ the electronics…
Yes I’ve not noticed it before but a few in the comments have said the same…odd!
I really love the fairing for the RR. As an RS owner I would have loved a RR version without clips. My hands re just noch happy with any kind of clip ons. I'm already looking for the first RR like conversions with RS hardware.
Oh and even with the clip ons: If this bike would habe been available last October it still may could have ended in my garage. I'm definitely in the target group of this bike.
Love the engine and already did some longer tours with the RS. Could possible hat the 10K this year alone wich would be a first for me. The usability of the offered power of this engine is something I just do not want to miss in the future.
Axel have you seen any conversions with RS top yoke/triple clamps, or bar risers of any sort ? Thanks from US.
@@ryanpatrick4813 no sadly I haven’t seen any viable conversion.
It’s a beautiful bike but it’s hard to make a case for it over the standard speed triple for me.
Yes me too….
Completely agree. It kind of feels like a rich person’s track bike… but even then I though this rich person would have to have a few bikes in the garage already to get around to choosing it.
@@Bobby-wn5yr Yeah, if it was a rich persons only bike it has all the specs you'd expect of a track weapon. But it's unlikely you'd pick it over a more focused, fully faired option
Wait a minute, Mr Flyer. While I was trying to pay attention to your excellent review, I was distracted by some pretty impressive video work, eg. your smooth panning around to follow the E-Type (and the lady runner). At times you seem to have a drone camera hovering about your starboard quarter, which I suspect involves a fish-eye much closer in. I think we need an explanation of this sorcery!
Yes you are owed an explanation - it’s simple, witchcraft of the highest order!
Always enjoy your Vlogs, with all the views of the beautiful countryside 👱♀️….. 😉👍!
Thanks for watching - much appreciated!
Hope you're feeling better after Covid. (Arr edit see you recorded in April so guess you are) Lovely bike, great engine but wrong riding position for a big guy like me. Wonder if they are actually going to build a Tiger Sport 1200?
+1 on a Tiger Sport 1200, let it have 17" wheels so sport bike tyres can be mounted. 🤘
Regarding the issue with the indicator switch. I've got a 2022 Tiger 850 Sport which I absolutely love with one exception: the indicator self cancelling kicks in with virtually any side to side movement. I'm forced to hold off switching them on till I'm certain the bike is perfectly straight! Pretty annoying for sure.
Yes those self cancelling systems can be annoying!
Great summary, I share your confusion. I need one bike to do lots of jobs so I own a GS, I would love a second bike but can’t get permission… If I did then I too would go sports bike or retro so wonder about the 1200RR. It’s a ton of cash and I think on balance I would have a speed twin!
Me too.....
It looks like the R9t racer revisited in a way. A similar recipe using a comfy naked bike as the donor and adding a retro fairing and clip ons. Ok so the BMW wasn't as modern or fast but it was cheaper and both suffer from the same issues. The Beemer got binned because it just didn't sell so the Triumph is likely to go the same way and anyone who's bought one will suffer heavy depreciation because it won't sell. So if you do fancy one get it on a PCP to edge your bets so you can just hand it back at the end of the term and walk away if the used value bombs.
On the other hand it might just turn out to be a great investment!
@@TheMissendenFlyer You're correct of course but at the moment it could go either way so a PCP which many do anyway seems like a less risky option as by the time the 3 years is up the position would become clearer? So you'd have the optionwhether to hand it back or pay the balance and keep it.
I’m intrigued, if you were to review this again with the information that most dealers were selling them for £14k (mine included) would that have changed your opinion? When I bought mine I thought it was a lot of bike for the £14k albeit still a lot of money. I wouldn’t have paid £18k.
No - even if it were £8K I still wouldn't buy one as I personally found it extremely uncomfortable on all but the shortest ride. It's a lovely bike, but not for me for that single reason.....
Love the look of the bike, but just way too expensive for me, shame that triumph don't make make a street triple RR or a trident RR might be more up my street.
Hi Andy. Shame you feel the need to start vids with that "small print" thingy. If folks can't see your (great) channel for what you intend it to be, then thats their issue. Keep up the good work. Do you have anymore flying coming up? Regards, Rich.
Thanks Rich - none planned at the moment but I would like to do some.....stay tuned!
I sat on one of these 2 weeks ago next to the regular model. Its just simply not great at either market I was surprised how far forward it was for a naked despite having clip ons.
The bike is beautiful & is one of the best looking bikes on the market today and looks alone would be why some people will still buy it.
I think the easiest fix is to put handlebars back & make the position equal to the other Models & make the fairings work with it. I think if Triumph actually do it the bike will sell easily.
Also for the suggestion box make a fully faired version with both the 765 & 1050 and bring back the Daytona name to the regular market.
After recently buying an old yellow Daytona with cow-horn handlebars and having to replace them with og clip-ons, I have to say that it is the clip-ons that affect the riding position, not the fairing. Mixing the two does make the bike look less sporty 'n all. I originally bought a brand new T509 Speed Triple (and then replaced it with Y2K 955i) and I had both those bikes fitted with Daytona clip-ons. The original T509 factory Speed Triple had clip-ons when they came out, as did the steel frame Mk 1 Bloor versions. If people bang on constantly about supposed comfort improvements then we'll all end up on ADVs. I do like the look of the new bike, thinking it brings the Speed Triple identity back to it's original format, but would avoid it because of EURO5.
The acid test will be sales and try as I might I can't find details on models sold for the RR.
If its not the success hoped for then there's every reason to hope the better suspension makes it across to the RS.
But, for me, I'd take an S version anyday, minus much of the electronics, I'd live with Showa suspension, lose keyless and quikshifter and 4 grand off the price of the RS .😁
Looks like a throwback to the late '90s "street sports", like the Suzuki TL1000S, Honda VTR1000F, BMW R1200S or Yamaha TRX 850. Can't think of another current example, although I guess the Ducati Supersport 950 probably isn't far off, despite the full fairing.
But it’s not a naked, is it ?
@@magaudion Its mostly naked. Only the top portions are covered but the buisness area being the engine is exposed. Mainly for the styling.
nice summation, Andy! it is sort of like a bunch of years ago, Suzuki and the SV650 - going from the unfaired sport standard to the part-faired more sporty sister. nothing wrong with either machine, but other than trying to fill segments of the (very fractured) market, what was the point? Cheers from BC Canada!
Cheers!
Going through the 30 speed camera at 32, I see you like to live dangerously.
Wise editing with the E Type and at 02:46 ;)
Glad you appreciate my skills….
Great bike, but costs way to much.
I think Triumph will struggle with this one.
Andy,
Another great video.
You should run a poll asking, How much would one spend on a bike like this?
0 - £10k
£10k - £15k
£15k or more
Would be super interesting to know.
Yes good plan!
Any issues with overheating. I understand their’s an open recall on these bikes
Not that I noticed.
@@TheMissendenFlyerI have my eye on a pre-owned 22 with 4600 miles. Two owners, and one open recall. I’m not too worried about the service recall. I’m just wondering if any other caveats to address
Bloody uncomfortable is the main issue!
@@TheMissendenFlyerI track a gen5 zx10r. But that’s only for 20 minute sessions. Even on the street, it’s doable for an all day Sunday group ride. Just looking for something “in-between”.
@@ridepastu1418 You'll be fine then...
Nice bike, i am not that keen on the looks. I’d go for the naked Speed Triple R for sure
I like the bike, but as you've said... I feel there are better alternatives in whatever you want from a bike.
Nice fair review & I totally agree with you. Nothing wrong with it as such but it's neither one thing or the other, expensive & who's going to buy it? Not sure if this would sufficiently broaden it's appeal enough but I think the clip-ons should be above the yoke to clearly differentiate it as road based sport bike, like the Aprilia RS660.
Yes and that would take away one of my major issues with it (loss of comfort over the standard Speed Triple)…
I can get one for 13,000 pounds new, would it be worth it at that price for a sports bike for the weekends? Did you find the seat uncomfortable compared to other sports bikes?
Yes I do - I'm afraid if it was £10K I still wouldn't buy one for riding (looking at maybe!)....very uncomfortable place to be. Lovely bike otherwise though!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks super helpful!
Sorry to put you off!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Not at all! Oh for a comparison would it be more or less comfortable than the panigale v2 do you think? Thanks again
@@yamz342 On a par - if forced I'd say the V2 is slightly better comfort wise...
I love this bike it's just too much power and money for me at the moment. I'd love to see a Street Triple RR.
Excellent bonus video Andy 👌, enjoyed watching. 😉🙏
Thank as ever Iain!
Actually TMF I have the same issue with the indicator switch on my new Triumph 850 Sport.
I didn’t notice it on that but others have said the same…
While I like the idea and looks of this bike, it’s a little too pricey for what I like it for.
I still appreciate Triumph producing it though and maybe my thoughts on it will change once they start hitting the second hand market.