you can eliminate the floating by doing the drop glitch on the rug. Place the object on the rug, do the normal drop glitch. move the rug to where you want the object. Only the rug will register on the ground the wall will sink.
Great build! FYI, you can sink the junk walls into the ground if you use the "merge" glitch that is usually used for displaying objects in shelves. Just place the junk wall on the rug like you would normally do for the regular rug glitch and then find a spot to perform the the "merge" glitch, it will cause the junk wall to sink into the rug and the rug will still stay on the surface. Once you have the junk wall sunk in as deep as you want you can just grab the rug and move the wall into position. You can also use this technique to sink objects into the ground, in my raider camp I have a few items and junk walls sunk into the ground, my camp is in an area where there was an obvious landslide so I wanted to have some items look like they were partially buried in the landslide.
I'm glad you liked it! I think going for a full Abernathy build might be a challenge with the budget available, but it would be fun to have a crack at it!
@@DarthXionGames I'm long overdue for a move to the northeast corner myself to be by some copper, not sure what I'm gonna do yet. I put a LOT of work into an elevated build in the gnarled shallows that's kind of like a retro bachelor's pad with shag carpet, red rocket, and nuka cola themed items on the first level and a swanky billiards room up top. Gonna miss it but it's a chance for improvement.
I know the feeling. It's usually a bummer pulling down a camp but, then, I do enjoy the building so... Something something rough with the smooth I guess 😜
I have built literally dozens of power pylon builds. Your tips on using the steel columns from stairs to gauge height were helpful. However you can exceed the typical height limit at ANY POWER PYLON by deploying your CAMP device on the upper level of the pylon. If interested in seeing the result find me in n PC mrjoeyhollywood.
@@DarthXionGames yea I didn't even realize how old this video was because you did a great job on it man. I've been checking out a lot of them but there's a new item in atomic shop it's like a car gate so I wanna incorporate that into this build somehow an probably do a few changes but I love the look and idea of this. My whole character is like raider/mothman cultis so I think I'll turn the top floor into like a big mothman alter but everything else like a junkyard raider feel. So ty for the video I loved it!
In my experience removing the big staircaise prefab is easily done if another staircase is snapped to the floor the prefab supports, and then snapped to a foundation on ground. This way I was able to demolish it without having to remove floors, walls and everything else near it. Like everything else in this game it "generally" works.
how the heck did i miss the episode where you built the base right next to mine?! im about 3 pylons north on my main XD mine was a bit basic though, im probably going to tear down and start again. you know, make it a bit more thematic and showey. i keep getting excited by an idea and then there is a daily or event and i get distracted. but i just learned the inside out snapping circle trick and im dying to try it out and i think a pylon build would be awesome for it.
My rebuilt pylon camp is SO much better. I used the trick with the floors and support beams to line everything up, and it turned out amazing, thanks DX
No problem! I'm glad to help. I was pretty pleased with how well the trick withe posts worked too tbh. It still takes a while, but much less time than trying to eyeball it!
Go ahead. 😊 You might want to wait until after the next patch though. As it stands you can't stack the stairs but there are apparently several fixes due for things that broke when Steel Dawn dropped.
It honestly wasn't that bad. Lining it up didn't take too long, the hardest part was making sure the foundation was in the right place on the X axis. Even that wasn't too bad as I started from the right, and moved it left a little at a time.
Is this still possible at this location or is this one of the many places that Beth have turned into proper pre-existing structures? I've tried building here a couple of times and keep getting the "your CAMP is too close to a preexisting structure" error message (at first I thought someone had built their CAMP here but somewhere that I couldn't find it, but having tried for a couple of days and server hopped a few times I think this may now be locked for building)
It should still be possible. There was an issue with the stairs but with the latest update, you shouldn't even need the posts to stack them. From what I recall however to place the camp unit I had to move off centre; closer to the cliff to the east. You'll probably have to play around with it.
If you mean when I was placing the stairs, I don't think I did anything particularly fancy. The stairs stack without any messing about now though, (Bethesda improved that a while ago), so they should be much easier to get into place.
Oh, the piles of tires at the front? The easiest way to do that is to stack them somewhere else then move the one at the bottom into place. The rest will move along with it. It actually uses the same principal as the rug glitch to partially bypass the collision. With 76 the such things don't work as well as they did in FO4 but for things like this it does work ok.
I was able to glitch the wooden posts from the shed wall using a metal ladder but i don't note properly how i did it - Reason is i hate the industrial metal posts.
@@DarthXionGames Ah that sucks, do you know if they came as a bundle or individually? Only just started the game so will save up the atoms in hope they reappear!
They're a bundle. This is a rather old build, so I'm not sure which pieces I used; there's probably items from several sets incorporated into the walls. On the plus side, you don't need to mess about to stack the stairs anymore, they just drop right in.
I would love someone to build a camp impervious to a scorch beast attack. I tried everything and the only thing that even sort of stood up to that attach was the cement dome. No way to fortify the door to keep out the scorched that arrive.
About the only thing that would be Scorchbeast proof would be to use all foundations as they don't take damage. Its been done, but doesn't look great though imo. If you want to keep regular scorched out you can lock doors, that should do the job until they break through. You should be able to kill them off before that happens though.
Damn overgrown fruit bats! 😂 Tbh missile turrets might help there, but if they're high level or legendary you're probably still in trouble. The other solution of course is to build somewhere they won't be, like the Forest or to avoid fissure sites.
@@DarthXionGames That is what I do. I abused myself for a few days trying to live next to a fissure site. It wasn't pretty or worth the 1 star legendaries that tore my camp to shreds and I tried ALL of the options. The cement dome was the best. That only got a hole in the top but I couldn't figure out how to keep the door secure.
No. There's no group select, and the only thing that sinks into the ground are foundations. There are glitches to get some way past that but on the whole they're more hassle than its worth.
There's a small junkyard a bit SW of Vault 76 that I've always wanted to build at. If anyone knows a work around to the fact that you can't seem to drop your Camp there, I'd like to know. It is NOT the one with all the Safes around it. It has a small junk built enclosure around it for reference.
@@DarthXionGames Think that's the one I'm thinking about, guess that would make it more to the West though. Oops!! Been wanting to create a Junkyard Camp but the options for setting up such a Camp are a bit limited. Any suggestions?
The spot I'm thinking of even has a resource node 😂 tbh I've not found anywhere for a good junkyard yet. Maybe the Car-henge at the top of the savage divide if you can deal with the spawns.
@@DarthXionGames Think that's the one. I'll have to take another look at Car-henge, that is if it hasn't been converted into a Cultist or Blood Eagle encampment already.
When you place an object, (the junk wall in this case), on a rug and select the rug, both items move together. The game then notices the collision box of the rug, not the wall allowing you to push the wall into other objects, bypassing it's normal collision, (to a certain extent). It was more flexible in FO4 than it is in 76 but it's still handy sometimes. If you click the "i" icon on the video there's a link to my guide on it for FO4. The technique is the same in 76 even if it's not as effective as it used to be.
The big things they changed are that you basically can't build from the top down, (no hanging walls) and until Tuesday you can't swap doors out for walls, so no double sided walls. That one was unplanned though do it'll be fixed on Tuesday.
Yeah. 😕 Unfortunately a lot of the techniques used in this one got taken out with the Steel Dawn update. I haven't given up hope that they may make a return, but at this point my optimism is declining.
I used the rug glitch liberally in my Main's build. It's a large Hunting shack a bit west of Morgantown. Game allows you to drop a Camp there but you need to rug glitch EVERYTHING inside the place. Very time consuming to build.
I think it was more to do with them being used to stack staircases, but I don't know why that would be a problem. I'm fairly sure the railings I think were an unintended side effect of not allowing walls to be built downwards, which was meant to stop people building floating/unsupported walls. I assume they were both being abused in some way but it's knackered a number of useful building techniques.
@@DarthXionGames Ohhhh that makes a lot of sense. Well it's nice to know that it at least is an effort to prevent exploits rather than stifling creativity. Grest video btw, thanks for the reply too!
No problem. 😊 They usually do have a decent motivation for these things, even if they don't always pan out well. It's an interesting testament to how interconnected the systems are sometimes; seeing what else breaks when the change one thing. Even if it is a royal pain in the butt.
@@DarthXionGames That's actually a really good point, they do listen to the community pretty well. It is interesting to see how interconnected things are for sure, fo76 must have a pretty interesting engine after all. Might be duct taped together and a decade old, but bethesda has alwasy been creative with how they implement things. I bet it's especially hard for them to hotfix anything without breaking anything else considering the engines unique nature. Can definitely be a pain, but it's still one of my fav games to build in 😁
There's definitely a "Jenga-from-hell" vibe to trying to make such targeted changes. 😂 That was one of the factors behind the one wasteland update last year; to introduce balance systems that could be adjusted more easily in future when needed. That said though most modern games, especially multiplayer online ones or large open worlds have a huge number of moving parts so I'd imagine these things are way more complex than they appear on the surface.
you can eliminate the floating by doing the drop glitch on the rug. Place the object on the rug, do the normal drop glitch. move the rug to where you want the object. Only the rug will register on the ground the wall will sink.
Great build! FYI, you can sink the junk walls into the ground if you use the "merge" glitch that is usually used for displaying objects in shelves. Just place the junk wall on the rug like you would normally do for the regular rug glitch and then find a spot to perform the the "merge" glitch, it will cause the junk wall to sink into the rug and the rug will still stay on the surface. Once you have the junk wall sunk in as deep as you want you can just grab the rug and move the wall into position. You can also use this technique to sink objects into the ground, in my raider camp I have a few items and junk walls sunk into the ground, my camp is in an area where there was an obvious landslide so I wanted to have some items look like they were partially buried in the landslide.
Nice build, I love that spot. The canopy over the bed area worked out great.
Thanks! I was wishing for something a little scrappier and also lower but we managed!
Duuude I've thought about making an Abernathy Farm style camp myself before I'm glad you did this!
I'm glad you liked it!
I think going for a full Abernathy build might be a challenge with the budget available, but it would be fun to have a crack at it!
@@DarthXionGames I'm long overdue for a move to the northeast corner myself to be by some copper, not sure what I'm gonna do yet. I put a LOT of work into an elevated build in the gnarled shallows that's kind of like a retro bachelor's pad with shag carpet, red rocket, and nuka cola themed items on the first level and a swanky billiards room up top. Gonna miss it but it's a chance for improvement.
I know the feeling. It's usually a bummer pulling down a camp but, then, I do enjoy the building so... Something something rough with the smooth I guess 😜
I have built literally dozens of power pylon builds. Your tips on using the steel columns from stairs to gauge height were helpful. However you can exceed the typical height limit at ANY POWER PYLON by deploying your CAMP device on the upper level of the pylon. If interested in seeing the result find me in n PC mrjoeyhollywood.
Great build as always. Those pylons can be a real pain to work with and get everything fitting properly. Great job!
Thanks! It took a bit of trial and error but fortunately I got there pretty quickly. 😊
Your workshop area and the tower looks so good!
Cheers Sangu!
I hadn't thought about building there, might have to give it a go.
Dude your buildings are awsome. Im totaly new in this game but I got stock on your vids 🤣. Keep up the good work. Peace from sweden
Glad you're enjoying the videos! 😊 Plenty here to keep you busy if 76 hasn't taken up all your free time already! 😎
This is awesome! I don't have everything but I'm definitely gonna build this
It'll be easier to do than it used to be now too as you don't have to mess about stacking the stairs: They now snap straight on top of one another.
@@DarthXionGames yea I didn't even realize how old this video was because you did a great job on it man. I've been checking out a lot of them but there's a new item in atomic shop it's like a car gate so I wanna incorporate that into this build somehow an probably do a few changes but I love the look and idea of this. My whole character is like raider/mothman cultis so I think I'll turn the top floor into like a big mothman alter but everything else like a junkyard raider feel. So ty for the video I loved it!
That sounds pretty epic. 😎 I just used the new gate this weekend too. It's pretty cool.
2nd floor looks sick
That's my spot for my commando build, I love that spot.
It's a good location.😊
I built in a pylon and I wished I had seen this tutorial before I did, so much easier the way you laid out the start :)
In my experience removing the big staircaise prefab is easily done if another staircase is snapped to the floor the prefab supports, and then snapped to a foundation on ground. This way I was able to demolish it without having to remove floors, walls and everything else near it. Like everything else in this game it "generally" works.
Man, I love your junky builds. They're a source of inspiration for me!
Btw, how did you do the ramp behind the pungi board? 24:17
The ramp and the ladder in that corner are already in place. I just added the Punji board to stop any attackers bypassing the walls.
@@DarthXionGames Pitty, here I was hoping we had board ramps in a buddle I haven't got yet
I wouldn't mind having a set of those boards either. They were handy in FO4
how the heck did i miss the episode where you built the base right next to mine?! im about 3 pylons north on my main XD
mine was a bit basic though, im probably going to tear down and start again. you know, make it a bit more thematic and showey. i keep getting excited by an idea and then there is a daily or event and i get distracted.
but i just learned the inside out snapping circle trick and im dying to try it out and i think a pylon build would be awesome for it.
You know I may have stopped by it on my way to start this build... 🤔
@@DarthXionGames oh, goodness i have to improve it now... XD
😂😂😂
I thought my pylon build was good, until I saw this. Thanks, now I have to scrap it all and start again!
😂😂 glad you liked it!
My rebuilt pylon camp is SO much better. I used the trick with the floors and support beams to line everything up, and it turned out amazing, thanks DX
No problem! I'm glad to help. I was pretty pleased with how well the trick withe posts worked too tbh. It still takes a while, but much less time than trying to eyeball it!
Great looking unique Camp:) thanks for the idea and well explained execution :)
No problems! I'm pleased to hear you liked it!
it looks great.
I like it. Very cool, hope u don’t mind I’m going to try it out for my camp ⛺️
Go ahead. 😊 You might want to wait until after the next patch though. As it stands you can't stack the stairs but there are apparently several fixes due for things that broke when Steel Dawn dropped.
Fits like a glove lol. I don't have the patience. xD Looks awesome!
It honestly wasn't that bad. Lining it up didn't take too long, the hardest part was making sure the foundation was in the right place on the X axis. Even that wasn't too bad as I started from the right, and moved it left a little at a time.
@@DarthXionGames Maybe I'll give pylon building another shot lol. It definitely looks badass!
Is this still possible at this location or is this one of the many places that Beth have turned into proper pre-existing structures?
I've tried building here a couple of times and keep getting the "your CAMP is too close to a preexisting structure" error message (at first I thought someone had built their CAMP here but somewhere that I couldn't find it, but having tried for a couple of days and server hopped a few times I think this may now be locked for building)
It should still be possible. There was an issue with the stairs but with the latest update, you shouldn't even need the posts to stack them.
From what I recall however to place the camp unit I had to move off centre; closer to the cliff to the east. You'll probably have to play around with it.
Do you get free power for building under the pylon? Or do you still need generators?
In this spot you need generators.
How did you get those posts in that exact spot? The rug thing doesn't work for those posts unless you used the fire trap.
If you mean when I was placing the stairs, I don't think I did anything particularly fancy. The stairs stack without any messing about now though, (Bethesda improved that a while ago), so they should be much easier to get into place.
@@DarthXionGames at the front door where the guard stations are i actually changed that out.
Oh, the piles of tires at the front? The easiest way to do that is to stack them somewhere else then move the one at the bottom into place. The rest will move along with it. It actually uses the same principal as the rug glitch to partially bypass the collision. With 76 the such things don't work as well as they did in FO4 but for things like this it does work ok.
I'm trying to do a similar build, yet cannot get the placement right for the stairs for the upper floor haha
It can be a bit finniky. At least you can stack the stairs without faffing about with posts now. That should simplify the procedure a bit.
I was able to glitch the wooden posts from the shed wall using a metal ladder but i don't note properly how i did it - Reason is i hate the industrial metal posts.
Wooden posts? 🤔🧐
Is that support, Tower, in the middle, hollow?
Was looking to try this but couldn't find the junk walls to build? Do they need unlocking or am I just blind?
They're an Atomic Shop item. I've not seen them on a bit so hopefully they'll make a reappearance soon. 🤞
@@DarthXionGames Ah that sucks, do you know if they came as a bundle or individually? Only just started the game so will save up the atoms in hope they reappear!
They're a bundle. This is a rather old build, so I'm not sure which pieces I used; there's probably items from several sets incorporated into the walls. On the plus side, you don't need to mess about to stack the stairs anymore, they just drop right in.
Amazing !! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What’s with the rug thing?
I would love someone to build a camp impervious to a scorch beast attack. I tried everything and the only thing that even sort of stood up to that attach was the cement dome. No way to fortify the door to keep out the scorched that arrive.
About the only thing that would be Scorchbeast proof would be to use all foundations as they don't take damage. Its been done, but doesn't look great though imo. If you want to keep regular scorched out you can lock doors, that should do the job until they break through. You should be able to kill them off before that happens though.
@@DarthXionGames Thank you for the advice! The regular scorched are not a problem. It's those flying bats!
Damn overgrown fruit bats! 😂 Tbh missile turrets might help there, but if they're high level or legendary you're probably still in trouble. The other solution of course is to build somewhere they won't be, like the Forest or to avoid fissure sites.
@@DarthXionGames That is what I do. I abused myself for a few days trying to live next to a fissure site. It wasn't pretty or worth the 1 star legendaries that tore my camp to shreds and I tried ALL of the options. The cement dome was the best. That only got a hole in the top but I couldn't figure out how to keep the door secure.
do they have a pilar glitch in 76 like fallout 4 had?
No. There's no group select, and the only thing that sinks into the ground are foundations. There are glitches to get some way past that but on the whole they're more hassle than its worth.
There's a small junkyard a bit SW of Vault 76 that I've always wanted to build at. If anyone knows a work around to the fact that you can't seem to drop your Camp there, I'd like to know. It is NOT the one with all the Safes around it. It has a small junk built enclosure around it for reference.
If you mean up the road between Alpine River Cabins and Black Mountain Ordnance, then I tried to build there once too. 😕
@@DarthXionGames Think that's the one I'm thinking about, guess that would make it more to the West though. Oops!! Been wanting to create a Junkyard Camp but the options for setting up such a Camp are a bit limited. Any suggestions?
The spot I'm thinking of even has a resource node 😂 tbh I've not found anywhere for a good junkyard yet. Maybe the Car-henge at the top of the savage divide if you can deal with the spawns.
@@DarthXionGames Think that's the one. I'll have to take another look at Car-henge, that is if it hasn't been converted into a Cultist or Blood Eagle encampment already.
Nice
Thanks!
My camp is literally right next to this where the silver deposit is at.
It's been a pretty good location whilst I've been here.
Excellent use of, new Atomic Store Items. Very nice Work! Really, a dislike.?
Cheers! 😊
It won't let me place my camp in this location
You need to be off centre, if you move to the east you should be able to keep the pylon in and place the camp.
I don´t understand the rug glitch and what it does.
When you place an object, (the junk wall in this case), on a rug and select the rug, both items move together. The game then notices the collision box of the rug, not the wall allowing you to push the wall into other objects, bypassing it's normal collision, (to a certain extent). It was more flexible in FO4 than it is in 76 but it's still handy sometimes.
If you click the "i" icon on the video there's a link to my guide on it for FO4. The technique is the same in 76 even if it's not as effective as it used to be.
@@DarthXionGames Thanks, got it. Don´t know what the recent patch exactly changed but seems a few things don´t work anymore.
The big things they changed are that you basically can't build from the top down, (no hanging walls) and until Tuesday you can't swap doors out for walls, so no double sided walls. That one was unplanned though do it'll be fixed on Tuesday.
I'd love to build this but i can't because bethesda took out beam stacking instead of fixing it 😡
Nevermind, I re watched. Thought there might be something interesting, in there.
Alot of this placing doesn't work anymore, also can't stack metal pillars
Yeah. 😕 Unfortunately a lot of the techniques used in this one got taken out with the Steel Dawn update. I haven't given up hope that they may make a return, but at this point my optimism is declining.
@@DarthXionGames still great video tho. I still took the idea and ran with it the best I could. Thumbs up 👍on the video. Well deserved
Those stairs, I refuse to use them again. It makes no sense having to scrap almost an entire camp just to rip them back out
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Rug glitch with the save
Old skool! Lol.
I used the rug glitch liberally in my Main's build. It's a large Hunting shack a bit west of Morgantown. Game allows you to drop a Camp there but you need to rug glitch EVERYTHING inside the place. Very time consuming to build.
Why did bethesda have to patch out being able to stack those posts? ugh
I think it was more to do with them being used to stack staircases, but I don't know why that would be a problem. I'm fairly sure the railings I think were an unintended side effect of not allowing walls to be built downwards, which was meant to stop people building floating/unsupported walls. I assume they were both being abused in some way but it's knackered a number of useful building techniques.
@@DarthXionGames Ohhhh that makes a lot of sense. Well it's nice to know that it at least is an effort to prevent exploits rather than stifling creativity. Grest video btw, thanks for the reply too!
No problem. 😊
They usually do have a decent motivation for these things, even if they don't always pan out well. It's an interesting testament to how interconnected the systems are sometimes; seeing what else breaks when the change one thing. Even if it is a royal pain in the butt.
@@DarthXionGames That's actually a really good point, they do listen to the community pretty well. It is interesting to see how interconnected things are for sure, fo76 must have a pretty interesting engine after all. Might be duct taped together and a decade old, but bethesda has alwasy been creative with how they implement things. I bet it's especially hard for them to hotfix anything without breaking anything else considering the engines unique nature. Can definitely be a pain, but it's still one of my fav games to build in 😁
There's definitely a "Jenga-from-hell" vibe to trying to make such targeted changes. 😂 That was one of the factors behind the one wasteland update last year; to introduce balance systems that could be adjusted more easily in future when needed.
That said though most modern games, especially multiplayer online ones or large open worlds have a huge number of moving parts so I'd imagine these things are way more complex than they appear on the surface.