@@Nintendofan184 That is what they said about TCU in 2022. Did you enjoy the worst blowout of all times in a National Championship Game? Teams that play sorry schedules should not be considered. It leads to crappy games.
@@deloachapproach4273 and vandy wasnt supposed to beat bama, arkansas wasnt supposed to beat tennessee, kentucky wasnt supposed to beat ole miss. we can give endless irrelevant examples on both sides. but with the sec teams, weve already seen them play each other this season, we know those outcomes, as much as you can claim that you do, you dont know the outcome of indiana playing any of those aforementioned teams.
@@Nintendofan184 You might be good at ninetendo, but it seems you do not understand how much parity there is in the SEC - especially this year. That is why the SEC, by far, sends more to the NFL than does any other conference. Do you think the NFL coacues drafting SEC players at a higher rate than some of the other conferences combined means nothing?
What does “pretty good” mean to you? Earnest question. Folks will simply talk around each other without commonly understood defining of the words and terms that we use. Is it a winning overall record? Is it a winning conference record in a power conference? Does a team have to be a top 25 ranked team to be “pretty good”?
@@JeffGonyo Thanks for the reply. This is a more nebulous defining than I expected. So, to you, more than a dozen, but fewer than 25 teams in the FBS are “pretty good”. Ok. I don’t know Penn State’s schedule. It’s not my school. I don’t follow them.
@ They have no wins against the top 25 and honestly yeah. We saw it with Georgia vs TCU just because you are ranked highly if you’re competition level is not on par with the SEC and top level Big10 teams you stand no chance. It sucks but it’s the truth it’s why I think Penn State or Indiana is getting bumped from the playoffs.
@@JeffGonyo TCU won its semifinal game. We’re not question its inclusion, right. That championship game was the worst, no question. As long as undefeated teams are included, and three regular season loss teams are kept out, then we’ll need to accept the subjective nature of at-large bids in an expanded 12 team playoff. In my view, this isn’t basketball. In college football, wins mean more. 😏 If a team is still in contention because they’ve lost three times in the regular season to top teams, then there’s nothing to be gained by their inclusion in a playoff. That team has already proven, on the field, that they’re not the best team in college football. There’s a nice bowl game for them somewhere.
@@noahhargrafen7486 Indiana hasn’t even beaten a bowl eligible team so nobody knows if they’re as good as their record says or if it’s all smoke and mirrors. We’ll find out soon though
"Indiana would get pooped on by all the top sec teams", this cannot be proven until the playoff, which is literally the point of expanding the playoff. Indiana deserves their spot to prove it on the field. The 4th and 5th best SEC teams did not prove it on the field for all 12 games.
Texas has played no one, Put Penn St/ Indiana vs Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas A&M and see what happens, Competition in the SEC is clearly stronger, Big Ten is top heavy, A two team league!
Penn St. has beaten 6 teams that are likely bowl-bound, and their only loss was by a TD to the team many are saying is the best in the country. So, it’s a very solid resume.
An 11-1 Penn State gets in irrespective of what anyone else does.,You can’t hold them accountable for their opposition not living up to pre season expectations.
that's the problem with the Big ten, besides Ohio State Michigan and Penn State, you might have 1 other team have a good year. The SEC every year is going to have BAMA, UGA, LSU, TexasA&M, Texas,UT, Ole Miss are all good teams. When you are in the SEC you are gonna no matter what play a very good team at least once. Michigan might not be a top 10 program without Harbuagh anymore. South Carolina which is the 6 or 7 best team in the Sec would most likely kill Indiana. The Big ten does not recruit or coach like the SEC besides OSU, Michigan, and Oregon.
@@gantbrasfield2569 This is a stupid argument when two B1G teams played in the natty last year. The SEC has been a two team league every year with people overrating teams like Tennessee and LSU for simply playing in the same conference. If the SEC played 9 conference games like the B1G, and UGA, LSU, and Bama had to play each other every year like PSU, OSU, and UM did, then the narrative changes the last 10 years.
@@heartbreak25 SEC is 2 teams? Buddy B1G has had only 2 teams win a natty in the last 20 years. The SEC has had 6 teams win a natty since 98 and if you include Texas and Oklahoma that have both won a natty since 98 that puts the SEC at 8 teams with a natty win. Even the ACC has more teams that have a natty than the B1G.
@@Hat-san Are you really going back 20 years? LMAO! Other than UGA and Bama, what SEC teams are truly perennial contenders in the actual playoff era? LSU had a miracle year and then what? Auburn had a miracle year, and then what? Ole Miss? Tennessee? Florida? Now we're supposed to believe in Texas? Stop.
I agree if you can move Miami down from 4 to 9 for losing to an unranked team but move UGA down from 3 to 12 for losing to a ranked team then move UGA back up to 6 because Ole Miss didn't play and Alabama played Mercer so again reward us for winning by touchdowns over Tennessee
This Ralph guy is obviously a huge Big ten homer. Indiana would get smacked against at least the top 5 teams in the SEC, maybe even the top 7-8. Too bad we may not know because they will be out once OSU smacks them. Did like the breakdown when comparing OM, PSU, and UTK at the middle of video though, that is spot on.
Youre so delusional miss 😂 Aww not everyone is as blind as sec homers so they must love the big10 hahaha. Cry about it? Sec fans are such casuals, willingly blind to reality showcasing their low sports IQ 🗑️
@@carterpark2483 they can’t control their schedule. It’s not their fault the two teams that played for the natty last year were mid this season. The best thing they can do with said schedule is to blow out every team on it and - wait - they have!!! I also find it hilarious that you’re trying to discount a game that they literally won lol. Tennessee LOST to arkansas. Ole Miss LOST to kentucky AT HOME. We’d whoop these SEC teams man
@@vhstephen7006 Sure ole miss and Tennessee have lost to mid teams, but you also have to look at how those teams were playing in that part of the season. Arkansas and Kentucky both had things to play for then and were actually tough opponents at the time being. Arkansas was healthy and Kentucky was playing good football (13-12 loss to Georgia the week prior) Still inexcusable losses though. Indiana has handled business against terrible competition, worse than the likes of Arkansas and Kentucky (Michigan is the exception). Indiana is well coached but they do not have the talent to run the gauntlet of the SEC. There is more to the decision making process than who have you lost to, it’s also who have you beaten, SOS, etc. Ole Miss destroyed Georgia just over a week ago, Tennessee beat Bama about a month ago. All 4 of the teams I just named would be 10+ point favorites against Indiana, and 3 of them (not Tennessee) would wax Indiana at a neutral site (and Penn State for that matter). Indiana should be left out if they lose to OSU and OSU covers the 13 ish point spread, just like FSU was left out of the 4 team playoff last year while being undefeated.
The committee already proved that they will favor Indiana over Tennessee. Indiana JUST jumped Tennessee last week for the great triumph of barely beating a mediocre Michigan team. I think that holds even after a loss against OhSt
Ralph makes me want to Ralph. why don't they have a 2 "first 4 out" playoff games the week of Championships??? That would resolve alot of these issues. with big10 1 loss vs 2 loss SEC
Miss State? I didn’t mention them, Last year? The SEC has owned college football for the past 20 years, so keep this in the present, I don’t want to talk about Papa Joe and Sandusky or any of that creepy stuff that had happened and no one knew about…
I don’t understand why you guys (and seemingly everyone else) are assuming Tennessee is the 5th team. They beat bama in the h2h, the loss to Arkansas I don’t consider as bad as the loss to Vandy, and imo they looked more impressive in the rest besides bamas win over GA.
This dude in the middle saying "I'd TaKE PeNN St ovER TeNn" doesnt watch college football. People betting money, never listen to him lol Penn state should not be in the playoff unless one of the SEC teams loses again. It should be OSU/Oregon from the BIG10 then Ole Miss, Tenn, GA, Bama at minimum
@@jasonmcroy5336 ohio state will play 3 teams ranked within the top 5 with the possibility of playing the number 1 team twice. much harder than anyone elses schedule
The reason the playoffs exist is because LSU vs BAMA in the BCS Championship. The reason the expanded playoffs exist because of GA vs Bama twice in the CFP. Blame Bama, I guess😅
I’m dying on this hill but if Indiana had a Michigan logo this wouldn’t be a debate, this argument is purely based on logos and programs Indiana has destroyed every team, Michigan won a ring last year not saying Indiana will win a ring but let Saturday work it out
"They have to win their way in". Ari is talking about Indiana? HOW ABOUT THE SEC TEAMS? All these two-loss teams have to prove that they're worthy of respect, more than undefeated "little guys". I don't care if he thinks the expanded playoffs are supposed to give the SEC second and third chances. If they're undeserving, they shouldn't make it. Previous versions of Bama and Georgia would ANNIHILATE their current versions.
@lingerinlead80421 a loss at night vs an SEC team isn't that bad. They also beat Florida who will end up 7-2 and Alabama 10-2. Oklahoma on the road as well.
i think oregon and ohio st are as good as sec teams. yeah alabama blew out wisconsin but oregon has lots of injuries and they havent had bye week for 8 straight weeks.
@@SiahslabzzOregon has only really played OSU and OSU has really only played Oregon... Penn state isn't good dont use that. They have an okay defense and 0 offense
So this guy thinks that PSU who only lost to Ohio State by 7, that Texas, TAMU and other teams in the SEC should be in when there exist losses with Kentucky and Vanderbilt? That is what does not make sense. I won’t be seeing any of these videos, I don’t hear not an ounce of criticism towards Texas that has the same exact resume with a blowout loss with a slightly worst team. This is insane
Lol, my Nittany Lions 🦁 will skull drag 🤣 Tennessee, Ole Miss, Georgia, Texas anyone you want to bring to Happy Valley in December!!!! WE ARE, they aren't
Regardless of who wins Indiana vs Ohio State, if Penn State wins out they still ain't moving much. To say they could be left out of the playoff is a clown take. They will still get a home game and will be above Ohio State who then has 2 losses.
Here's the problem with the stupid SEC/B1G debate. First, the SEC only plays 8 conference games so they can rest and build depth playing FCS programs late in the season. Unlike the B1G, they also didn't pit their best teams against each other every season. How is the last 10 years different if UGA, Bama, and LSU were all in the same division as OSU, UM, and PSU? When PSU scheduled a home-in-home against Auburn, they dragged Auburn into both games. So this idea that the SEC is "deep" isn't backed by facts when Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota have their fair share of bowl wins against the middle and back of the SEC.
@@BC-lp3sv We. Don't. Know. Again, this is stupid. No one is asking, "Is the middle of the AFC as strong as the middle of the NFC?" The entire debate is settled at the top of the conference. If Oregon or Ohio State wins then no one is going to be talking about South Carolina in the Mayo Bowl.
@@BC-lp3sv Why do people lie online? My one paragraph stated, 1. SEC playing 8 conference games vs B1G 9, 2. Top SEC teams avoiding each other in-season in the past, and 3. B1G bowl teams still winning off the SEC. How about responding to what I wrote instead of cherry-picking to debate something I did not say? If USC is matched with a B1G team in the bowl, then they can literally prove who is better there instead of speculating.
@@heartbreak25I don’t know what lying you’re even talking about. Your analysis is all over the place. The SEC vs B1G bowl games is incredibly lopsided in favor of the SEC. Look it up. When the B1G had divisions, the West was incredibly weak outside of Wisconsin. So the East winner was more often than not the B1G champion. The B1G pitted Michigan, OSU and Penn State together in the East. The SEC did the opposite. They spilt their best teams so that the top teams would play each other in the championship game. What’s your point? It’s all different now because the divisions are gone.
Why not they would do it? They would do it for Ohio State or Alabama heck, Alabama beat Mercer and went up 2 spots in the AP poll which I know isn't used but still the media loves those teams
Tennessee would beat Indiana i mean one 10 win season in history and all of a sudden they are so great please they probably won't win many game next year look at how Michigan has done
I loathe Ohio State, but for the legitimacy of the playoff, I need them to demolish Indiana and put this silly debate to rest. Indiana would be about the 8th best team in the SEC this year and go 7-5 at best. The Big10 deserves three teams this year: Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State. The SEC should have at least 5: Texas, Georgia, Bama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee. Maybe 6 if A&M beats Texas. There just aren't more deserving teams around this year. The G5 doesn't deserve anyone. The Big12 hardly deserves one. The ACC only deserves one. Reality check: the SEC and Big10 are far above the rest of the sport and deserve more spots.
Oh look its the guys who don't know ball! PLEASE ELABORTATE. Do you think Colorado is in that spot because you believe the committee is going to be dishonest and cheat or you actually believe CU should be in front of Boise State? If its the latter, then you don't know ball.
Indiana should be ahead of notre dame They lost to a top 3 team they lost to a bad team Penn State should be higher then Texas Better wins and much better performance agaisnt top 4 team Tenn should be lowest of the sec teams that are 10-2. Tenn had better win then Texas if am wins Texas is out Tenn is in.
If I hear another word about “quality wins” im gonna lose it. The whole season matters. Good wins, bad wins, good losses, bad losses. It all matters. It aint just GPA. It’s GPA, APs, SAT, activities, essays, impact on community, etc. Stop trying to simplify the rankings. Lack on complex analysis is why the CFP rankings are so inaccurate
I agree but wins against good teams matters a lot when you’re claiming to be one of the best teams in the country. 10-2 while beating 2 playoff teams and 1 top 15 team and losing to 2 playoff teams is much more impressive than 11-1 with 0 ranked wins and 1 loss against the only ranked team you played all year.
Soooo you have an ole miss team that lost to a worse Kentucky team that’s worse than Arkansas AT HOME and an LSU team on the road that that’s the equivalent to Oklahoma more and more we see them play and then you have a Tennessee team who’s both losses are on the road in hostile environments 😂 this dude is high off his meds. Did he go to a big 10 school?
“penn state has beaten enough pretty good teams” proceeds to show their schedule: WV, Bowling green, kent state, illinois, ucla, usc, wisconsin, osu, washington, purdue, minnesota, maryland. one of the worst and weakest schedules out of all the teams in the top 12. please god never have this Big Ten shill on again. he is not looking at anything objectively.
There is no way Indiana or Penn State should get in without even playing in the Big 10 championship. oregon and OSU get in, the rest need to be left out.
Ya’ll do remember this was the argument for TCU and Georgia beat them 65-7
It was also the argument for Michigan last year and they won the national championship
Thumbs down.Never have this guy on again
ditto. he works for the NY times - The Athletic... so he's a yankee trying to talk about the SEC... LMAO
Lol😊
Vols roll penn st😊
Sorry to burst this guy’s bubble but Indiana would have at least 3 losses in the SEC right now.
maybe, the point of the playoff is to find out. so hopefully we get so see indiana vs a couple sec teams in the playoffs
@@Nintendofan184
That is what they said about TCU in 2022. Did you enjoy the worst blowout of all times in a National Championship Game? Teams that play sorry schedules should not be considered. It leads to crappy games.
@@deloachapproach4273 and vandy wasnt supposed to beat bama, arkansas wasnt supposed to beat tennessee, kentucky wasnt supposed to beat ole miss. we can give endless irrelevant examples on both sides. but with the sec teams, weve already seen them play each other this season, we know those outcomes, as much as you can claim that you do, you dont know the outcome of indiana playing any of those aforementioned teams.
Well that’s not the case is it the playoff isn’t built on hypotheticals
@@Nintendofan184
You might be good at ninetendo, but it seems you do not understand how much parity there is in the SEC - especially this year. That is why the SEC, by far, sends more to the NFL than does any other conference. Do you think the NFL coacues drafting SEC players at a higher rate than some of the other conferences combined means nothing?
Ari is 100% correct. The whole idea is to get the SEC and Big Ten Legacy teams in every year. That’s all.
What pretty good teams has Penn State beaten?
What does “pretty good” mean to you? Earnest question. Folks will simply talk around each other without commonly understood defining of the words and terms that we use.
Is it a winning overall record? Is it a winning conference record in a power conference? Does a team have to be a top 25 ranked team to be “pretty good”?
@@zplapplap Any team that was or is somewhat competitively going for the CFP. Do they have that?
@@JeffGonyo Thanks for the reply. This is a more nebulous defining than I expected. So, to you, more than a dozen, but fewer than 25 teams in the FBS are “pretty good”. Ok. I don’t know Penn State’s schedule. It’s not my school. I don’t follow them.
@ They have no wins against the top 25 and honestly yeah. We saw it with Georgia vs TCU just because you are ranked highly if you’re competition level is not on par with the SEC and top level Big10 teams you stand no chance. It sucks but it’s the truth it’s why I think Penn State or Indiana is getting bumped from the playoffs.
@@JeffGonyo TCU won its semifinal game. We’re not question its inclusion, right. That championship game was the worst, no question. As long as undefeated teams are included, and three regular season loss teams are kept out, then we’ll need to accept the subjective nature of at-large bids in an expanded 12 team playoff.
In my view, this isn’t basketball. In college football, wins mean more. 😏 If a team is still in contention because they’ve lost three times in the regular season to top teams, then there’s nothing to be gained by their inclusion in a playoff. That team has already proven, on the field, that they’re not the best team in college football. There’s a nice bowl game for them somewhere.
Tennessee gets in. Many games ahead and we have the favorable match ups. GBO. We will be in in the end!!! VFL
Imagine thinking Indiana was good. They have played a worse schedule than Army. Why aren't we talking about Army being elite?
your a notre dame fan arent ya 🤔
Bro forgot strength of schedule completely in this entire discussion.
This guy is killing me. He is so worried about the Big Ten if they were as good as the SEC then they could complain, but they’re not.
ditto. he works for the NY times - The Athletic... so he's a yankee trying to talk about the SEC... LMAO
O quality wins = Indiana
Penn state should not get in!!
It’s not about best story it’s about best teams gets in. Indiana would get pooped on by all the top sec teams
I’m sure you’ll get the opportunity to find out ab that
They would probably fall around the oklahoma/auburn region of the conference honestly.
@@djhmrtime6636 this can’t even be a real opinion
@@noahhargrafen7486 Indiana hasn’t even beaten a bowl eligible team so nobody knows if they’re as good as their record says or if it’s all smoke and mirrors. We’ll find out soon though
"Indiana would get pooped on by all the top sec teams", this cannot be proven until the playoff, which is literally the point of expanding the playoff. Indiana deserves their spot to prove it on the field. The 4th and 5th best SEC teams did not prove it on the field for all 12 games.
Who has Penn state played, other than Ohio state?
Who has Texas played?
Texas has played no one, Put Penn St/ Indiana vs Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas A&M and see what happens, Competition in the SEC is clearly stronger, Big Ten is top heavy, A two team league!
@@davidreidenberg9941 Georgia
Penn St. has beaten 6 teams that are likely bowl-bound, and their only loss was by a TD to the team many are saying is the best in the country. So, it’s a very solid resume.
Who has indian played. Actually never mind they haven't beat one team with a winning record. That's hilarious they are even in top 10
Big ten is a 2 team league Oregon and Ohio state
Bullshit.
Not a shot most of the sec teams are home team merchants, they can’t win on the road, Big 10 teams beat their conference opponents on the road
An 11-1 Penn State gets in irrespective of what anyone else does.,You can’t hold them accountable for their opposition not living up to pre season expectations.
that's the problem with the Big ten, besides Ohio State Michigan and Penn State, you might have 1 other team have a good year. The SEC every year is going to have BAMA, UGA, LSU, TexasA&M, Texas,UT, Ole Miss are all good teams. When you are in the SEC you are gonna no matter what play a very good team at least once. Michigan might not be a top 10 program without Harbuagh anymore. South Carolina which is the 6 or 7 best team in the Sec would most likely kill Indiana. The Big ten does not recruit or coach like the SEC besides OSU, Michigan, and Oregon.
@@gantbrasfield2569 This is a stupid argument when two B1G teams played in the natty last year. The SEC has been a two team league every year with people overrating teams like Tennessee and LSU for simply playing in the same conference. If the SEC played 9 conference games like the B1G, and UGA, LSU, and Bama had to play each other every year like PSU, OSU, and UM did, then the narrative changes the last 10 years.
@@heartbreak25 SEC is 2 teams? Buddy B1G has had only 2 teams win a natty in the last 20 years. The SEC has had 6 teams win a natty since 98 and if you include Texas and Oklahoma that have both won a natty since 98 that puts the SEC at 8 teams with a natty win. Even the ACC has more teams that have a natty than the B1G.
@@Hat-san Are you really going back 20 years? LMAO! Other than UGA and Bama, what SEC teams are truly perennial contenders in the actual playoff era? LSU had a miracle year and then what? Auburn had a miracle year, and then what? Ole Miss? Tennessee? Florida? Now we're supposed to believe in Texas? Stop.
@@heartbreak25 Call it what you want. B1G has only had 2 teams with 3 wins. That is truly laughable.
I agree if you can move Miami down from 4 to 9 for losing to an unranked team but move UGA down from 3 to 12 for losing to a ranked team then move UGA back up to 6 because Ole Miss didn't play and Alabama played Mercer so again reward us for winning by touchdowns over Tennessee
This guy doesn't know nothing Indiana would lose to 12 teams in the sec and it would be easy
This Ralph guy is obviously a huge Big ten homer. Indiana would get smacked against at least the top 5 teams in the SEC, maybe even the top 7-8. Too bad we may not know because they will be out once OSU smacks them. Did like the breakdown when comparing OM, PSU, and UTK at the middle of video though, that is spot on.
Youre so delusional miss 😂 Aww not everyone is as blind as sec homers so they must love the big10 hahaha. Cry about it? Sec fans are such casuals, willingly blind to reality showcasing their low sports IQ 🗑️
You have such an astounding lack of ball knowledge it’s insane
@@vhstephen7006Indiana has a SOS schedule outside the top 100 and their best win is a super close game against a below average Michigan. Try again
@@carterpark2483 they can’t control their schedule. It’s not their fault the two teams that played for the natty last year were mid this season. The best thing they can do with said schedule is to blow out every team on it and - wait - they have!!!
I also find it hilarious that you’re trying to discount a game that they literally won lol. Tennessee LOST to arkansas. Ole Miss LOST to kentucky AT HOME. We’d whoop these SEC teams man
@@vhstephen7006 Sure ole miss and Tennessee have lost to mid teams, but you also have to look at how those teams were playing in that part of the season. Arkansas and Kentucky both had things to play for then and were actually tough opponents at the time being. Arkansas was healthy and Kentucky was playing good football (13-12 loss to Georgia the week prior) Still inexcusable losses though.
Indiana has handled business against terrible competition, worse than the likes of Arkansas and Kentucky (Michigan is the exception). Indiana is well coached but they do not have the talent to run the gauntlet of the SEC.
There is more to the decision making process than who have you lost to, it’s also who have you beaten, SOS, etc.
Ole Miss destroyed Georgia just over a week ago, Tennessee beat Bama about a month ago.
All 4 of the teams I just named would be 10+ point favorites against Indiana, and 3 of them (not Tennessee) would wax Indiana at a neutral site (and Penn State for that matter).
Indiana should be left out if they lose to OSU and OSU covers the 13 ish point spread, just like FSU was left out of the 4 team playoff last year while being undefeated.
The committee already proved that they will favor Indiana over Tennessee. Indiana JUST jumped Tennessee last week for the great triumph of barely beating a mediocre Michigan team. I think that holds even after a loss against OhSt
They jumped them because they are undefeated. It doesn’t mean they are a better team.
Ralph makes me want to Ralph. why don't they have a 2 "first 4 out" playoff games the week of Championships??? That would resolve alot of these issues. with big10 1 loss vs 2 loss SEC
The system expanded for these magical teams that have the 103rd strength of schedule 😂
IMO The big ten will make sure that Ohio State doesn't blow out Indiana. For obvious reasons of course
I noticed you didn’t mention us, I’m your huckleberry, Roll Tide.
Play better competition!!!
a SEC team will be in the natty guaranteed. will probably win it without breaking a sweat too
You put the four Big Ten teams in the SEC and see what their records would be
That don't make no damn difference who you put in their Alabama is going to win the whole damn thing
It is supposed to be to get the best 12 teams in it but it seems like to me all you want is the Big Ten in it
Maybe Ole Miss Georgia Alabama Tennessee and Texas should go out and schedule cupcakes like the Big Ten does and we all would be undefeated
Sounds like these three nuts just hate the SEC
SEC paying up to getting five teams in. What a farce.
Miss State? I didn’t mention them, Last year? The SEC has owned college football for the past 20 years, so keep this in the present, I don’t want to talk about Papa Joe and Sandusky or any of that creepy stuff that had happened and no one knew about…
I don’t understand why you guys (and seemingly everyone else) are assuming Tennessee is the 5th team. They beat bama in the h2h, the loss to Arkansas I don’t consider as bad as the loss to Vandy, and imo they looked more impressive in the rest besides bamas win over GA.
This dude in the middle saying "I'd TaKE PeNN St ovER TeNn" doesnt watch college football. People betting money, never listen to him lol
Penn state should not be in the playoff unless one of the SEC teams loses again. It should be OSU/Oregon from the BIG10 then Ole Miss, Tenn, GA, Bama at minimum
no one is talking about the possibility of Bama making the SEC champ game and loosing, giving them their 3rd loss.
Bama is flawed that third loss coming, it's just a matter of time
Indiana better bring it that’s all I know
Ohio state has a easy schedule
ohio state has the hardest schedule in the country by a mile
Ohio state only plays 2 ranked teams and you say that's tough and they could only win 1 of them they are over rated
@@jasonmcroy5336 ohio state will play 3 teams ranked within the top 5 with the possibility of playing the number 1 team twice. much harder than anyone elses schedule
The reason the playoffs exist is because LSU vs BAMA in the BCS Championship. The reason the expanded playoffs exist because of GA vs Bama twice in the CFP. Blame Bama, I guess😅
Be careful, what? Drew twists his ankle getting off the bus, or A. Carter maybe??? Why, don't you tell the Gophers to be careful????? WE ARE
So you think the SEC is going to be locked up in one bracket like that I doubt it
Pretty good in the Big 10 and in the SEC are 2 totally different animals
This guy must be from the Big Ten
All i ask is: can you revisit these takes when the CFP is actually decided? Right or wrong.
I’m dying on this hill but if Indiana had a Michigan logo this wouldn’t be a debate, this argument is purely based on logos and programs Indiana has destroyed every team, Michigan won a ring last year not saying Indiana will win a ring but let Saturday work it out
"They have to win their way in". Ari is talking about Indiana? HOW ABOUT THE SEC TEAMS? All these two-loss teams have to prove that they're worthy of respect, more than undefeated "little guys". I don't care if he thinks the expanded playoffs are supposed to give the SEC second and third chances. If they're undeserving, they shouldn't make it. Previous versions of Bama and Georgia would ANNIHILATE their current versions.
TN beat Alabama, if they get in, so should TN. Penn State over TN.... lmao....
So then Vandy should get in too right? Clown
Yeah, you're forgetting Arkansas beat Tennessee
@@lingerinlead80421 right so arkansas should get in too! Lol! Let everyone in!!
@lingerinlead80421 a loss at night vs an SEC team isn't that bad. They also beat Florida who will end up 7-2 and Alabama 10-2. Oklahoma on the road as well.
@@stretch141000 TN is getting in. They're number 11, they will beat UTEP and Vandy. COPE>
If Indiana beat Ohio state this week ? There definitely in
Nobody's really worried about the SEC about 80% chance that one of them wins it all
i think oregon and ohio st are as good as sec teams. yeah alabama blew out wisconsin but oregon has lots of injuries and they havent had bye week for 8 straight weeks.
@@SiahslabzzOregon has only really played OSU and OSU has really only played Oregon... Penn state isn't good dont use that. They have an okay defense and 0 offense
omg I would love love to see Notre Dame vs Penn St. they had great raveries in the 90's
Indiana is in over the SEC teams
So this guy thinks that PSU who only lost to Ohio State by 7, that Texas, TAMU and other teams in the SEC should be in when there exist losses with Kentucky and Vanderbilt? That is what does not make sense. I won’t be seeing any of these videos, I don’t hear not an ounce of criticism towards Texas that has the same exact resume with a blowout loss with a slightly worst team. This is insane
Yes, Indiana would absolutely beat the fifth best SEC team.
You got jokes Ohio state got one of the easiest schedule in football
Don't get too used to it in 2 years this will be gone will be something else in place you can guarantee it
Magical season, Go to Disney world, this is a joke! Best teams only, STRENGH OF SCHEDULE MATTERS, Indiana in SEC is a 4 or 5 loss team at best!
Colorado looses in next game Kansas kills Colorado's playoff dreams
Poor Indiana. Every other team is allowed to have an off day but them.
Indiana had a whole schedule of off days lol
We're the SEC We're the best no one can beat us😂
Tennessee beats Penn state
If y say so
Haha as a PSU fan I’d be thrilled with Tennessee draw. Beaver Stadium or Neyland doesn’t matter
@@jeremybeil9603 As a PSU fan, oh yeah, I'd take this game all day.
Yes Tenn all day on that game sorry pen state
Lol, my Nittany Lions 🦁 will skull drag 🤣 Tennessee, Ole Miss, Georgia, Texas anyone you want to bring to Happy Valley in December!!!! WE ARE, they aren't
The only team Penn State played, they lost to(Ohio State).
So Ralph saying to move Georgia Alabama we beat Georgia
Head to head flawed you also beat them at home, bama has zero quality wins on the road, LSU whoo hoo they are terrible this year
Dang they throwing shots at each other he said when the athletic hired me to replace you is crazy work lost all respect for bro
Regardless of who wins Indiana vs Ohio State, if Penn State wins out they still ain't moving much. To say they could be left out of the playoff is a clown take. They will still get a home game and will be above Ohio State who then has 2 losses.
It would be funny if Minnesota beat PSU though, don't laugh but PSU don't look the part, so they could lose
Ole Miss and Tennessee would get skull dragged, stop!!! I am out, I don't listen to ignorance!!! WE ARE
Leave Ralph off this show
Best teams only
These guys make laugh every video
Indiana will be in with 1 lose
Here's the problem with the stupid SEC/B1G debate. First, the SEC only plays 8 conference games so they can rest and build depth playing FCS programs late in the season. Unlike the B1G, they also didn't pit their best teams against each other every season. How is the last 10 years different if UGA, Bama, and LSU were all in the same division as OSU, UM, and PSU? When PSU scheduled a home-in-home against Auburn, they dragged Auburn into both games. So this idea that the SEC is "deep" isn't backed by facts when Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota have their fair share of bowl wins against the middle and back of the SEC.
The middle of the B1G is not as strong as the middle of the SEC this year. No one in the B1G wants to face South Carolina right now.
@@BC-lp3sv We. Don't. Know. Again, this is stupid. No one is asking, "Is the middle of the AFC as strong as the middle of the NFC?" The entire debate is settled at the top of the conference. If Oregon or Ohio State wins then no one is going to be talking about South Carolina in the Mayo Bowl.
@ except your dissertation brought up the middle of the B1G 😂. You’re all over the place.
@@BC-lp3sv Why do people lie online? My one paragraph stated, 1. SEC playing 8 conference games vs B1G 9, 2. Top SEC teams avoiding each other in-season in the past, and 3. B1G bowl teams still winning off the SEC.
How about responding to what I wrote instead of cherry-picking to debate something I did not say? If USC is matched with a B1G team in the bowl, then they can literally prove who is better there instead of speculating.
@@heartbreak25I don’t know what lying you’re even talking about. Your analysis is all over the place. The SEC vs B1G bowl games is incredibly lopsided in favor of the SEC. Look it up. When the B1G had divisions, the West was incredibly weak outside of Wisconsin. So the East winner was more often than not the B1G champion. The B1G pitted Michigan, OSU and Penn State together in the East. The SEC did the opposite. They spilt their best teams so that the top teams would play each other in the championship game. What’s your point? It’s all different now because the divisions are gone.
Tennessee would whoop Penn State's ass
This was a hard watch. Shout out to Ari cause that other bozo is a clown
Georgia probably won't jump the two teams that beat them so 6 isn't happening
I think 7 or 8 Tennessee should be down to 10 or 11 maybe 12 and even the first team out but they should get in
Why not they would do it? They would do it for Ohio State or Alabama heck, Alabama beat Mercer and went up 2 spots in the AP poll which I know isn't used but still the media loves those teams
Mecer just started up football in the last 5 years lol
Tennessee would beat Indiana i mean one 10 win season in history and all of a sudden they are so great please they probably won't win many game next year look at how Michigan has done
Not so fast if Tennessee played Indiana on the road, Tennessee sucks on road, Tenn lost at Arkansas who lost to ok st lol
I loathe Ohio State, but for the legitimacy of the playoff, I need them to demolish Indiana and put this silly debate to rest. Indiana would be about the 8th best team in the SEC this year and go 7-5 at best.
The Big10 deserves three teams this year: Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State. The SEC should have at least 5: Texas, Georgia, Bama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee. Maybe 6 if A&M beats Texas. There just aren't more deserving teams around this year. The G5 doesn't deserve anyone. The Big12 hardly deserves one. The ACC only deserves one.
Reality check: the SEC and Big10 are far above the rest of the sport and deserve more spots.
Big 10 is weak
Oh look its the guys who don't know ball! PLEASE ELABORTATE. Do you think Colorado is in that spot because you believe the committee is going to be dishonest and cheat or you actually believe CU should be in front of Boise State? If its the latter, then you don't know ball.
Indiana should be ahead of notre dame
They lost to a top 3 team they lost to a bad team
Penn State should be higher then Texas
Better wins and much better performance agaisnt top 4 team
Tenn should be lowest of the sec teams that are 10-2.
Tenn had better win then Texas if am wins Texas is out Tenn is in.
If I hear another word about “quality wins” im gonna lose it. The whole season matters. Good wins, bad wins, good losses, bad losses. It all matters. It aint just GPA. It’s GPA, APs, SAT, activities, essays, impact on community, etc. Stop trying to simplify the rankings. Lack on complex analysis is why the CFP rankings are so inaccurate
I agree but wins against good teams matters a lot when you’re claiming to be one of the best teams in the country. 10-2 while beating 2 playoff teams and 1 top 15 team and losing to 2 playoff teams is much more impressive than 11-1 with 0 ranked wins and 1 loss against the only ranked team you played all year.
Soooo you have an ole miss team that lost to a worse Kentucky team that’s worse than Arkansas AT HOME and an LSU team on the road that that’s the equivalent to Oklahoma more and more we see them play and then you have a Tennessee team who’s both losses are on the road in hostile environments 😂 this dude is high off his meds. Did he go to a big 10 school?
“penn state has beaten enough pretty good teams”
proceeds to show their schedule: WV, Bowling green, kent state, illinois, ucla, usc, wisconsin, osu, washington, purdue, minnesota, maryland.
one of the worst and weakest schedules out of all the teams in the top 12.
please god never have this Big Ten shill on again. he is not looking at anything objectively.
The whole thing just needs to be SEC vs. BIG and that's that
bro who is this guest? literally no one likes him in the comment section
Great story, that’s a joke
Pen state cant even beat vandy 🤣
Lol
This dude is such a big ten homer he makes zero sense with his arguments. Any of the 5 SEC teams would beat the absolute brakes off of Penn St.
Absolutely not. You don't know what you're talking about.
Alabama #2? Both ole miss and Tennessee beat them.
Bama didn't play Ole Miss, losses were to Tennessee and Vanderbilt.
@ronaldseale ok. My bad. That's worse.
@volslover1504 yes, it is
Storm the Capitol?
There is no way Indiana or Penn State should get in without even playing in the Big 10 championship. oregon and OSU get in, the rest need to be left out.
In that case, just do the top two in the SEC as well…
These guys are idiots!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE