Tom, I am amazed about how many reviews you do! I can't remember ever searching youtube for a game and not finding a Tom Vasel review. Hats off to you! I was sure you had not seen this game. I am glad you did another great review....THANK YOU!
I had a chance to play this at Origins with Tom & the DiceTower crew. He was ecstatic! And the game was great, seriously. My biggest complaint with real-times is the complexity and this one really hit the sweet spot with not too much so. Also, Eric was like a machine at the Operator spot. I'm glad he showed it to us.
Damn, this looks awesome. Too bad I will NEVER get 8 people together that will be willing to play this game. Even if I accomplish somehow to get 8 people, then it will end with some party like game. :( Great review as usual!
Thanks Tom. This looks like a winner. The teacher part of me thought this is also a good game for the start of the school year where you meet the new teachers and need ice breakers.
I played this two vs two - but NOT real time lol - and had no issues. Yeah you have to keep track of more stuff but it really wasn't bad. You just have to keep your head screwed on and think. It makes it more intense in a different way! 2 v 2 works if you do it turn-based and not in real time.
Missed it at SPEIL16 but grabbed a copy recently. The box is open but we've yet to table it; looking forward to it soon though! Thanks for the video and enthusiasm, Tom.
Just bought this game. I'm really stoked about it but haven't played it yet. My biggest regret is how infrequently it will hit the table because of the player requirements.
Brilliant game, I bought it knowing that I'll only play it a few times a year, when I can get a full compliment of players. But it was worth every penny.
wow oh wow. Just got this game for my group in which is often 6 to 8 players 90% of the time. I was waiting for something like this and loved battleship as a kid. I have to imagine the radio operator being the most difficult? or perhaps the captain. Thanks for the overview.
this game is amazingly good. I usually play with 6 players, and its so fun, but same time stressful as sometimes you cant keep up with your opponents directions, because people talking over each other or they move so quick. 8/10
I'd like to give this a try! Sounds like it doesn't scale to lower (4P!) player counts so well which likely means I will never own it : ( Worth playing to find out for sure though!
Issue with video Plays in dark mode and the pause play and back or forward icons remain on the screen and cant clear the screen to watch the video Also tom please do a review for captain flip game Only two videos are all in German and many people can't understand German
Damn, as awesome as this sounds I just can't get behind it because it does sound sooooo much like space cadets dice duel and I can't deal with the stress in that game haha! My boyfriend would adore this game though, he loves this crazy realtime mechanic :D
Hm, i'm annoyed when we have 8 or more players during the night and have to split to play games. This may be a cool way to play all together. Of course, i would have to find it somewhere on Amazon, etc., doubt we will ever see it in stores in my country..
Super super super game , and I only play with sonar family, simpler game , I want play this one , wonderfully collaboration game real time , stress is on the game , victory is amazing
I remember when I saw this in a shelf at Target. I thought "what? An 8 player Battleship? What a crap idea." Then I saw this review and sweet Jesus was I wrong.
Does the captain HAVE to move? If all moving does is give you damage and give the other team more information then why not park yourself in a corner and let them come to you?
No mention of the Space Cadet, only Dice Duels? This is better for Tom; better for younger/older/non-gamers? It seems like it may be more intuitive and so easier to teach?
Not difficult at all! I played a few rounds at PAX. Each individual system is very easy to learn, especially if you're playing with the turn-based rules.
Recently brought Viticulture to game night at my brother's. Three couples and me so someone had to sit out. Do you guys have videos about 6+ player games??? (btw they DO have Seven Wonders)
Light to medium in complexity. I recommend playing the turn based rules with newcomers first, then move on to simulatenous play. It gets crazy and fun! Also, it only takes about 45 mins to play maybe an hour or so the first time.
Not with one copy of the base game and the experience would probably be awful. You'd need 2 copies of the game to have enough components for a 3rd sub. You would also probably want 2 radio operators per team because it's hard enough keeping track of one team. Keeping track of 2 would be almost impossible and make the game take way too long. This means another set of transparencies would be needed, so 3 copies of the base game. My group played twice last night and there is enough chaos with 2 teams. Adding a third would push it into the not fun zone.
Tom, I am amazed about how many reviews you do! I can't remember ever searching youtube for a game and not finding a Tom Vasel review. Hats off to you! I was sure you had not seen this game. I am glad you did another great review....THANK YOU!
I had a chance to play this at Origins with Tom & the DiceTower crew. He was ecstatic! And the game was great, seriously. My biggest complaint with real-times is the complexity and this one really hit the sweet spot with not too much so. Also, Eric was like a machine at the Operator spot. I'm glad he showed it to us.
One of these games I really, really want even I know I will never play it :/
If only we knew one each other brother. I have my group of 4 I usually hang out with we could use you and I could find 2 others
Damn, this looks awesome. Too bad I will NEVER get 8 people together that will be willing to play this game. Even if I accomplish somehow to get 8 people, then it will end with some party like game. :( Great review as usual!
Here because Week in Review. Love those videos.
Sone there will be a top 10 of magic marker games.
Thanks Tom. This looks like a winner. The teacher part of me thought this is also a good game for the start of the school year where you meet the new teachers and need ice breakers.
I played this two vs two - but NOT real time lol - and had no issues. Yeah you have to keep track of more stuff but it really wasn't bad. You just have to keep your head screwed on and think. It makes it more intense in a different way! 2 v 2 works if you do it turn-based and not in real time.
We booked a meeting room and played it 8v8 at work today. And it was AMAZING, Amazing!
Sounds like a fun place to work!
Now I REALLY wanna play it ! Thanks for this energetic review !
Missed it at SPEIL16 but grabbed a copy recently. The box is open but we've yet to table it; looking forward to it soon though! Thanks for the video and enthusiasm, Tom.
Great review, Tom. I really have a good idea what this game is about now.
Just bought this game. I'm really stoked about it but haven't played it yet. My biggest regret is how infrequently it will hit the table because of the player requirements.
Yet another great game I won't play, don't think I'll never have enough people.
daaaammmm youuuuu!!!!
:D
So how many Red October quotes are made when playing this game?
Plenty.. plenty.
Aikuchi The hard part about playing Captain Sonar is knowin' when to flinch.
you can keep your "Red October", real captain sonarers quote "Das Boot" - *now it gets psychological*
Brilliant game, I bought it knowing that I'll only play it a few times a year, when I can get a full compliment of players. But it was worth every penny.
Glad you mentioned Space Cadets: Dice Duels. I own & like it. Was curious how they compared.
wow oh wow. Just got this game for my group in which is often 6 to 8 players 90% of the time. I was waiting for something like this and loved battleship as a kid. I have to imagine the radio operator being the most difficult? or perhaps the captain. Thanks for the overview.
Here because of the week in review. Looks like a really interesting game.
team tournament would be so much fun, with all fully synchronized teams !
This looks like a very fun board game
Great review, can`t wait to try it out!
i play this game 1v1 a lot. it's a lot of work
I would like to try a Star Trek theme like the episode Balance of Terror.
I was thinking more Wrath of Khan.
I sense a live play of this in the future....
Seems interesting! I'll definitely keep my eye on it.
I think we need a Live Play Through with the DT gang.....
Hey Tom! I met you at GenCon this year while wearing a captain's hat and you said you had one like it at home. Is this the one? :)
One of them. :)
How does this game compare to the 2-4 player version?
this game is amazingly good. I usually play with 6 players, and its so fun, but same time stressful as sometimes you cant keep up with your opponents directions, because people talking over each other or they move so quick. 8/10
which two roles do you find "easiest" to play for one person? Or do you leave one of the roles vacant when playing with six players?
This game looks like a blast! :-D
can we except a live for this game
I'd like to give this a try! Sounds like it doesn't scale to lower (4P!) player counts so well which likely means I will never own it : ( Worth playing to find out for sure though!
Good review of a great game!
Issue with video
Plays in dark mode and the pause play and back or forward icons remain on the screen and cant clear the screen to watch the video
Also tom please do a review for captain flip game
Only two videos are all in German and many people can't understand German
Damn, as awesome as this sounds I just can't get behind it because it does sound sooooo much like space cadets dice duel and I can't deal with the stress in that game haha! My boyfriend would adore this game though, he loves this crazy realtime mechanic :D
Looks great, I suggest a Star Trek version for the future :)
:( an awesome game that will never hit the table due to player count...
Not true. I am often in a situation at my brother's house where game-night has three couples and me. Add a friend or my older niece and we got a game!
This game looks awesome! However, it also looks like it works best with a minimum of 6 players. I have trouble finding 4 or 5 for games.
Hm, i'm annoyed when we have 8 or more players during the night and have to split to play games. This may be a cool way to play all together. Of course, i would have to find it somewhere on Amazon, etc., doubt we will ever see it in stores in my country..
Definite GenCon buy for me!!
Super super super game , and I only play with sonar family, simpler game , I want play this one , wonderfully collaboration game real time , stress is on the game , victory is amazing
I remember when I saw this in a shelf at Target. I thought "what? An 8 player Battleship? What a crap idea." Then I saw this review and sweet Jesus was I wrong.
Roberto Fraga is like the king of wacky games.
Great sounding game with awesome mechanics...but too many player required
Does the captain HAVE to move? If all moving does is give you damage and give the other team more information then why not park yourself in a corner and let them come to you?
If you don't move, then none of your weapons or powers will charge up.
If you don't move and your enemy does they'll spot you with drones and nuke you in 5 minutes :D
Anyone besides me like the concept of this game and want to play it, but the price point for it is way too high?
What score did Tom give Sonar out of 10?
No mention of the Space Cadet, only Dice Duels? This is better for Tom; better for younger/older/non-gamers? It seems like it may be more intuitive and so easier to teach?
It's not really like Space Cadets. That's a coop game, this is a team vs. team game.
But how hard is it to teach to new players?
I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a complex party game.
Not difficult at all! I played a few rounds at PAX. Each individual system is very easy to learn, especially if you're playing with the turn-based rules.
Recently brought Viticulture to game night at my brother's. Three couples and me so someone had to sit out. Do you guys have videos about 6+ player games??? (btw they DO have Seven Wonders)
Light, medium, or heavy? And timescale?
Light to medium in complexity. I recommend playing the turn based rules with newcomers first, then move on to simulatenous play. It gets crazy and fun! Also, it only takes about 45 mins to play maybe an hour or so the first time.
I want a Star Trek version!
SugaryCoyote wrath of Khan! Yes!
One team will always loose because their Captain is inexperienced and thinks two-dimensionally.
TFW you usually have 1 or 2 players
It says 2 to 8 players. Why is everybody whining about not enough players. 1 player could take all 4 roles I reckon??
Are you from Tennessee?!?!?! 731 here!!
anyone here from Matt and Tom
wow. this was ok up until the sonar operator was explained then it became great. top of my to buy list it goes.
could you play with 3 subs?
Not with one copy of the base game and the experience would probably be awful. You'd need 2 copies of the game to have enough components for a 3rd sub. You would also probably want 2 radio operators per team because it's hard enough keeping track of one team. Keeping track of 2 would be almost impossible and make the game take way too long. This means another set of transparencies would be needed, so 3 copies of the base game. My group played twice last night and there is enough chaos with 2 teams. Adding a third would push it into the not fun zone.
that being said, if you did play with 3 subs, you must play turned based
Did I really just see that hat??
Ug, that hat is horrible.
Battleship looks like the better option.