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@@manzelli1981 The Mosquito is not really that fast. I know historians like to say it but any german single engine fighter after 1942 (Bf109G2 and later) should be able to catch it. I think the speed was misunderstood and what makes its "best defesne" is that the Mosquito could come in fast and low across the English Channel, bombard an instalation and turn away quickly, without risk that an interceptior from another close base could take off and still intercept it.
My impression was always that one the Mosquito's biggest standout strengths was the ability to outrun any Axis fighter down low. It might ambush an enemy fighter if the situation presented itself, but the main point was to run fast, blow something(s) up, run away , and live to repeat the first three things.
Not always my father flew Mosquitoes over Germany late in the war , stripped down for speed, to avoid jets and only had cameras , so dogfighting was not an option but it did fly.
Of course the liberal democracies don't admit the laughable hypocrisy of piano manufacturers and so many other private companies being forced by the state to make war machines ... to fight for freedom against ''dictatorships''! And the other laughable irony is that because the liberal capitalist system won, the Anglosphere would ultimately off shore their manufacturing and destroy their native industries. Tried to find something actually made by the English these days. So much was owed to so few!
I actually helped restore a mossie. That plane was one of the best of the war without doubt. So many high risk missions were spearheaded by that wonder.
I saw a vid where the Germans tried to capture an intact Mosquito, to study. It was obviously kicking some assets, and embarassed the Nazis. A certain target they knew was prime for the Mos (don't remember ..submarine bases ?) were double flak and gun protected, with gunners instructed to try to dissable them. But nothing they did stopped the Mossys from flying through and away, some badly damaged.
@@hayds_93 Unfortunately she is static. You can see her at the Alberta Aviation Museum online. I played a small part as I worked at the airport in downtown Edmonton. YXD was an airport with a great history as it was really the gateway to the far north and subsequently Russia.
Im really enjoying the mosquito, might be my new favorite WWII plane, really excited to see more British planes, also they said in a Q and A the elevator is very twitchy because of the length of the joysticks in the real plane compared to most HOTAS, so it will require extra curvature.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough What? Were you on one engine? :) Seriously, I was ripping along at sea level and a hair under 300 IAS (it's mph not knots) with eyes wide open as I skimmed the cliffs of Dover. Amazing machine!
“It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy. The British, who can afford aluminum better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building… they have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops.” Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe Commanding Officer
Down under, we have a lot of affection for the Mossie. We built it for the RAAF, at Bankstown just on the then outskirts of Sydney. They served in all kinds of roles, but predominantly bomber and attack roles in the South Pacific theatre. Aussie Mossies were famous for loading bombs without fins to save space, and taking off with bomb loads of approximately equal weight to a B-17. They were famous for using a tactic originally perfected on the A-20 Boston / Havoc, by dropping bombs at treetop height, there they would typically bounce two or three times, and then explode behind the bomber. Talk about having either big brass testicles, or a death wish! ;-)
The Mossie is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful planes in existence. Love the quality of the skin. It looks flown, a lot. If I was flying DCS (Can't. I have an old Mac.) I'd be using the Mossie for strike and CAS missions. I'll be honest. I find those more interesting than dogfighting.
Yes! I was waiting on this one! I make pens, and currently I have two pens that a Mosquito wing spars from a mosquito that is being restored in Australia. Holding a piece of a historical and amazing aircraft is other worldly!
Listen, you can’t just say something like that and not drop some form of source or link. (Unless it’s a special item not being produced, in which case it’s dope that you have your own piece of history!)
@@jefferynelson yes, I have two pens that are ready to be turned on a lathe. They are custom orders. They cost $300. They come with a certificate of authenticity, with the aircrafts tail number. And they take about three months from order to delivery. It is highly labor intensive.
We started getting Mossies in Australia but had to switch back to Beauforts and Beaufighters because the tropical Pacific delaminated the woodwork construction and they fell apart. If we wanted some lightning raiders we followed RAF-DAF example and wound out the boost regulators on P40Es for over 1700hp on ram air at treetop. Allison Inc. complained about that big time, but hey, pull two MGs out of the wings and you could put bombs all over it, take off short fields and fly fast. Couldn't do it on the later models though since they went auto and Allison was up in arms about it.
I have an idea the engineers went out to the tropics and after researching it, changed the resin they used on the Mossie for tropical climes so it stopped falling apart!
What a plane! I really love the twin-engine British fighters, and they're so different in character. The Mosquito quite belies it's name as it's a bruiser, but the Lightning is named perfectly, fast and slim. I would love to see GS swap with someone in more of these dogfights, as I get the feeling that the wins come more from his superlative piloting skills a lot of the time than the aircraft. Mos vs Fw 190, sure that's a matchup, but some are ridiculous.
There was one variant, Fighter Bomber XVIII, sometimes known the “Tsetse”, armed with a modified 57mm Anti Tank gun with 25 rounds carried aboard! I thinks it’s main purpose was anti shipping and specifically U-boats (when they were surfaced, obviously lol)
It was a modified field gun with a 37 shell auto-loader and fired one round every 2 seconds. It was primarily for sinking U-boats, but was also used for attacking shipping. There is a recorded case of a the Tsetse shooting a Ju-88 and it shell removed the engine completely.
@@richardpoynton4026 Yes, you are right, a bomb load the same as the flying fortress, initially the fastest plane - faster than all fighters (until the Fw-190); and just beautiful. Its only issue was not using contra-rotating props making it bit of a handful on takeoff due to torque effects, but still loved by the pilots.
@@Tom55data Mosquito was a fantastic long range fighter bomber, night fighter and photo recce aircraft. Air Superiority fighter and Strategic Bomber it was not. 4000lb bomb load capability didn't become operational until February 1944 and it could only be a 4000lb HC bomb. Any other bomb load was limited to 2000lbs if long range was required as the drop tanks were needed for any mission with a combat range over 400 miles. Berlin missions required drop tanks and if they didn't feed, the weapon load had to be jettisoned on the first target of opportunity and the aircraft had to go home (in a lot of cases landing at the first base it could reach).
I remember my Dad telling me when I was young, and first discovered the beautiful planes of WWII, how the Mosquito was his favorite plane, ever. I couldn't believe his favorite plane was something named after a fragile, annoyong pest. But my goodness she's a beauty, and so impresive with the boom-n-zoom.
Love the mossie to bits, but it was designed as a (very fast) generalist. Amongst its many other roles it was a formidable night fighter. BUT I would never put it up against a FW-190 in a daytime dogfight. Was the '190 pilot under instructions to lose?
So good the Germans emulated it with the Ta-154. Which many believe inspired the A-10 when the USAF was selecting a CAS platform to counter the Soviet tank threat In Europe, in the 1970's.
In the British Royal Air Force only the best pilots got to fly the Mosquito which meant every squadron was an elite squadron. This is why they took on the tasks were given. Such bombing that against Goring. They also had something of a vendetta against the Gestapo, attacking several of the facilities. If the Mosquito pilot saw you early enough then there was little chance of catching it. In his book I Flew for the Fuhrer the author Heinz Knoke writes about having to chase Mosquito's and never catching one. At one point he even closed all the intakes for the radiators so as to reduce drag and still could not catch the Mosquito he was chasing. In the end he had to open them up again so as not to blow his aircraft up.
In 2013 my local airshow here in nz was the place where the first mosquito to be restored to flying condition for serveral years mades it debut. At the time it was the only flying one in the world. I was 12 years old and i will never forget seeing it flying formation with two mk9 spitfires and a p-51d. My understanding is that it was sold to a buyer in Canada where it lives today. Such a beautiful bird repsonsible for one of the highlights of my childhood
I met the daughter of Bud Tingwell. A respected Australian actor. He flew Mossies and P.R. Spits. When piloting the Mossie , his navigator was Richard Burton. True story. I never met Bud, but his daughter said her Dad said to retell this story to me. I worked at RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Australia (oldest continually operational military airfield in the world. They are restoring a Mossie to ground exhibit status.
The plane: A twin engined chonky boi armed to the brim with 8 guns, 4 of which are 20mm cannons, being one of the fastest planes during the year of its production. RAF: Hmm....yes....let's call it...The Mosquito
I wonder if they'll do the Mosquito Tsetse variant with the 6 pounder autocannon in the nose? An RAF pilot in world war two shot out the whole engine block of a Stuka with a single 6lb shell hit. The usual role for a Tsetse was anti shipping as a burst from the autocannon was like being hit by a Frigate. They used to fire 6ft or so to the left side of surfaced subs as the shells would deflect in water to the right and then straight into the sub itself. The Mossie was an absolute legend in terms of its versatility.
Actually it was a JU88 that had it's port engine "removed" by a round from the Mohlins 6 pounder. Squadron leader Tony Philips of 618 (Special Detachments) Squadron was the pilot responsible, in April 1944, off the French Atlantic coast. Home in time for tea and medals...
@@Jon.Cullen Thanks for those details. I watched the pilot talk about this a fair while go so got my enemy plane mixed up and couldn't remember his name but now i can go search for that interview again.
@@hoogmonster Personally I would liked to have seen the expression on the face of the JU88 pilot as he saw his port engine being punched clean off the wing! The link to that clip is above.
I read some forum years ago that someone said his relative (father, grandfather, uncle maybe) flew both the Mosquito and the Beaufighter in combat. The Mosquito was quite a "dog" and turned like a bus but the Beaufighter was quite a good turning aircraft for its size. Also these two multirole aircrafts are not the best climbers. The Mossie was rather what we call "interdictor aircraft", best used for hit and run missions.
I agree. In this video the Mosquito was too nimble. I should have mushed more into those turns. Heavier on the controls. Had a higher angle of attack going into those turns which would bleed off airspeed quickly. Resulting in a stall if the turn rate was held too long. In this video the Mosquito preformed as if its weight and drag profile was about the same as the FW190. And that is not the case at all. Not realistic IMHO. The FW190 should have been able to out turn and get behind the Mosquito. Which would force the Mosquito to use its speed in a shallow dive to pull away from the FW190 as it exited its tight speed bleeding turn onto the tail of the Mosquito. Then the Mosquito would be building speed and getting smaller and smaller in the windshield of the FW190 as it pulled away. That is what should happen if the flight modeling was accurate. Also the Mosquito in shallow dive should build speed faster than the FW190 does, especially since the FW190 speed on exit of the turn would be around 255 MPH. If he was pulling max g's turn rate at the black out point. At 5,000 feet straight and level the Mosquito max speed is 355 MPH the FW190 A4 is 324 MPH. In a shallow dive the Mosquito should be able to maintain 375 MPH while the FW190 would max out at 340 MPH. The difference is the weight and drag profile in a 500 foot per minute decent rate for both aircraft. The Mosquito would hit its max 375 speed when the FW190 was still accelerating through 300 MPH on its way to its 340 max speed trying to catch up. Which it would never do. But if the Mosquito tried to dogfight and turn with the FW190, then the Mosquito would lose speed faster than the FW190 does in turns and end up in a situation when its speed was slower than the FW190 and could no longer keep turning with the FW190. That would be when the FW190 would be able to get behind the Mosquito and then kill it, because the Mosquito would not have any speed reserve left for an escape maneuver. This did not happen in that video, the Mosquito came out of all the maneuvers with enough speed to keep closing the gap with the FW190.
@@danhammond9066 Operation Jericho Mosquitos needed escort from Typhoons as the target was close to an FW190 base. The instructions were to bomb and run before the FWs could catch them. Sadly the mission commander went round again for one last look at the target, and got shot down (disobeyed his own order).
@@danhammond9066 This makes total sense to me. I am no expert but I was very surprised at how easily the heavier Mosquito with its two quite widely spaced engines was able to out-fight a FW190.
The Mosquito is quite the beast in so many ways. Consider the bomber variant that could carry 4000 pounds and cruised at 295 while the huge B-17 usually carried 8000 pounds, or less, and cruised around 190.
Check the range Vs payload curves, it's quite enlightening. To be fair though, the prevailing doctrine pre WW2 was for heavy bombers that would fight their way to the target. US and UK both went that way. It was the genius of De Havilland that went against the wisdom of the day and built this wonderful machine. That's why it was a one off. You can argue all day about which was the best heavy bomber of the war, but the Mossie was the best light bomber no question. It was an excellent night fighter and a superb fighter bomber... Albeit more to the bomber end of that spectrum since it was designed as a bomber first of all.
@@slammerf16 I’m not saying either one was “better”. In fact I think that’s a ridiculous discussion. They’re two completely different roles. One was a long range heavy bomber. One was a fast light bomber with less range.
Famous quote on the Mosquito "The British, who can afford aluminium better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building, and they give it a speed which they have now increased yet again. What do you make of that? They have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops!' Herman Goering
Detail is the meaning of the word realism of which many hundreds were built in Canada.We have a Mosi being restored right here in Delta BC Canada as I post this comment to your channel.Cheers mate.
A REAL FB Vl De Havilland Mossie is being restored at the Omaka Aviation Centre in Blenhiem NZ! Look it up, World Class Display! It was hidden in a Barn for over 60 years.
I grabbed a couple of six packs of high grade beer last night. Sat down, played some HoI4, fired up DCS, and there it was. The notification of the Mosquitos release. I was just about to buy it when I remember, my wife flipped shit last month when I bought the K4 and P-47. Too much money in one month. I cracked another beer to think about it and when I woke up this morning I had bought it. Sorry dear.
THIS is what I have waited for, since first reading about air warfare as a kid. The Mosy ,called a fighter bomber...But never mentioned in air to air against other fighters/fighter bombers. I was AMAZED at this video. The 190 looked like it was turning on its axis, but the woody turned with, and out turned it in the begining...Stunning. I would have been a major pain, to Brit command, had I been there. I would have the 'observer' stay to fly with someone else. And the machine guns removed. Just needless wieght. Maybe I'm ignorant. Maybe command would have me fly alone....In a Brewster Buffalo.
The .303 mg's were fairly effective at close range, and deliverrd all of the bullets in a quite concentrated area. I also read that the .303 tracer rounds heloed confirm aim for the 20 mm canons...
.303 aren't as effective as 20mm by a long way, it's true but more dakka is always good. It's not like a .303 would bounce off a Focke Wolf, they'd make holes all the way through and turn a wing or a fuselage panel into a sieve.
Holy crap I NEVER expected the Mosquito to be able to win a turnfight against any single-engine airplane. I don't know much about the Mossie and I was assuming that a big fat twin-engine heavy strike aircraft would be helpless against a 190. My jaw dropped when I saw that first turn. I might need to get this plane.
It's got 4 Hispano 20mm cannons. It can destroy anything it will face in one pass. Some also carried four .303 machine guns, but I don't know why. By 1941 the .303 was obsolete.
I can see where a Mossy could out zoom a single engine fighter using its speed but surely with those two engines, its moment of inertia would be so great that it couldn’t out-roll a single seater? Appears that it was out-turning the Focke also? What am I missing?
Thank you for getting this up so quickly, I am impressed and darned happy. Equally I am relieved that you like her. I'm still waiting for everything to download. Mind you I have the children this weekend so there was never any chance of doing anything. I'm already looking forward to seeing you in her again. I'm looking forward to the rocket load out....tank hunting time!
One of the best planes of the war....It could carry the same amount as a B-17 Faster, more percsion, with less crew. That and its wide range of varients Not only of the plane But it's weapons The "Tse Tse" model carried a 57mm auto firing cannon with a 6 pound shell And rockets on the wings. The same model at the end of the war tested a 96mm auto firing Cannon with a 12 pound shell it worked and the program was scrapped for the jet age These aircraft them became Target tows...Yellow and black stripes The biggest part of these was the wood..This meant all the metal workers making aircraft Tied up doing 12 hour shifts to produce aircraft Did not have to worry..Canadians And Britsh / Aussies hired on Cabniet makers And wood workers to the force The abudance of North American Birch wood meant there would never be a hold up on supply ----- I have not flown the Mosquito in DCS I have flown it on a very old game that had really good flight physics The Mossy I found was a brick on take offs and landings due to the torque of the engines You would find yourself overshooting the runway if you landed like a normal aircraft And a slight pull to the left if i remember (rudder to fix) However with flaps down And a 1/4 throttle You could float you're Cannon on a tank And throw in 1 shot and line for another one before having to throttle up for another pass (keep in mind there was a reload rate of 1 to 2 secs between shots) ...These's were always good and keeping speed climb rate They are a boom and zoom aircraft And turning you do should be on the climb Or dive AKA a 2 o'clock loop.. To stay alive I use to think in terms of a ground pounder with speed to get out of there if faced with more than 1 enemy near by
This wants me to have the Fokker G-1 in this game, like the Mosquito it had wooden wings but it was a twin-boom design. Think of the P-38, but build from the mid 1930s, with 4 or 8 machine guns in the nose and a rear gunner.
You promised, and you delivered! Thanks GS! 4:40 that scissors fight got intense for a bit. Loved the video. Any P-38 content coming? I would love to see a BF109 chewed up by a Lightning.
Both had Hispano cannons, but with the nose mount it is a much easier system to aim at any range, whereas in the wing mount locations on the Spit, the guns were set to converge at a set point in space ahead of the aircraft. If you find that convergence zone, you find how to hit hard with a Spit.
@@debbiestimac5175 They're really accurate on the Mossie, yes - but also the difference in terminal effects is striking (sorry!). If you hit a Ju88 with the 20mm there's a massive flash and usually a nice big fire.
@@debbiestimac5175 to hazard a guess, I'm going to say the convergence point would be between 250 and 500 yards, depending on the caliber of the weapon(s) being employed
Truly amazing!! My father and I are having a feud on who would win in a Dogfight. A BF 109 K-4 or a tomcat jet fighter. I think the 109 would win. I would love to see that dogfight in DCS.
@ Panzer...if the Tomcat pilot elected to go into a turning fight with a 109, the 109 would win hands down. How the Tomcat would win would be in a slashing attack, either from below or from out of the Sun.
Herman Goring Said “The British have a new aircraft. “ They call it the Mosquitoe, and it’s made of no aliminuim which have limited supply and they have plenty but of wood.” “It is faster And outproforms than anything we have and when I think of this aircraft I go green with envy.
Flying what? Easy targets? Certainly not true of the real aircraft, with the lowest losses of any aircraft in bomber command, and faster than almost every fighter!
@@lohikarhu734 BF109. The Mosquito is extremely fast and heavily armed, but having large outboard weights on the wing (the engines) made it less manoeuvrable than a single-engine fighter, so in a turning fight, it was usually outclassed. The Mosquito clashed against FW190s in Scandinavia, but they were usually escortes by RAF mustangs.
IMVHO I think the staining to the machine is over the top. Crews would have been appalled to get into a machine this dirty. Crews took pride in the state of their machines and one pilot I talked with bawled out his ground crew flight sergeant for oil streaks on the nacelle to the extent that the FSgt complained to the CO. In the “interview” that followed the CO said to the FSgt that he was welcome to accompany the pilot on a mission to get an insight into what the pilot went through, then he could legitimately complain if he thought the pilot was being unfair. If he didn’t want to take up the offer he suggested he get some rags and polish the machine as requested! Ouch! As an aside one squadron found if they polished the mosquito with furniture polish (Mansion House brand) they could get another 5knots out of it.
Such a beautiful plane. Wonder if those flying it were aware of the mystique it would engender forevermore. On the plus side, maybe this will get us closer to the Beaufighter as a flying model.
i have all these planes but the Mossie is much OP in Dogfighting and low sped turn, roll abilities ....it should be easy meet for a 190A in that height
That’s a very good 1st impression video. Getting to the meat of things of what everyone eventually wants to see…how do the massive cannons shred opponents?
They would completely shred one, although they didn't have much of a chance in WW2 unless maybe they came across a FW Condor. They did a number on JU88 and ME110 nightfighters though.
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So far very impressed with the Mosquito its got a long road a head in its development but its off to great start, big congrats to ED on this great launch.
Mosquito vs P-38 will be epic if they ever get it out.
I 2nd Rex Mann, anything with a P-38 Lightning or DH.98 Mosquito would be epic.
I eagerly await the premiere of 2 Morons in a Mosquito!
@@craig.a.glesner "2 Morons in a mosquito take on the entire 1991 Iraq military." 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
“I’m not going to push it” as he proceeds to black out in the first turn haha
The mosquito well handled apparently could turn almost on its own length. It wasn’t a pure fighter but could hold its own
The best defense is sometimes just two absurdly powerful engines, and the ability to outrun nearly everything the enemy has.
@@manzelli1981 The Mosquito is not really that fast. I know historians like to say it but any german single engine fighter after 1942 (Bf109G2 and later) should be able to catch it.
I think the speed was misunderstood and what makes its "best defesne" is that the Mosquito could come in fast and low across the English Channel, bombard an instalation and turn away quickly, without risk that an interceptior from another close base could take off and still intercept it.
My impression was always that one the Mosquito's biggest standout strengths was the ability to outrun any Axis fighter down low. It might ambush an enemy fighter if the situation presented itself, but the main point was to run fast, blow something(s) up, run away , and live to repeat the first three things.
your impression was accurate.
That's early war, later part of the war 1944+, German planes had a speed advantage at most altitude ranges, especially below 20k.
@@FSX404 Yes, all three of them were very fast.
“If it flies, it can dogfight” - GS, probably
Not always my father flew Mosquitoes over Germany late in the war , stripped down for speed, to avoid jets and only had cameras , so dogfighting was not an option but it did fly.
@@Boeing_hitsquad Try the one with 12 instead. More .50 is always better.
The Mosquito. The unbridled rage of every piano-maker in Britain given physical form.
Of course the liberal democracies don't admit the laughable hypocrisy of piano manufacturers and so many other private companies being forced by the state to make war machines ... to fight for freedom against ''dictatorships''! And the other laughable irony is that because the liberal capitalist system won, the Anglosphere would ultimately off shore their manufacturing and destroy their native industries. Tried to find something actually made by the English these days. So much was owed to so few!
I actually helped restore a mossie. That plane was one of the best of the war without doubt. So many high risk missions were spearheaded by that wonder.
That's amazing. You should make a video about your experience restoring that beauty
I saw a vid where the Germans tried to capture an intact Mosquito, to study. It was obviously kicking some assets, and embarassed the Nazis.
A certain target they knew was prime for the Mos (don't remember ..submarine bases ?) were double flak and gun protected, with gunners instructed to try to dissable them.
But nothing they did stopped the Mossys from flying through and away, some badly damaged.
Which one, one of the avspecks ones? The John Smith one? That's super cool
@@p7outdoors297 Wish I had but it was over 20 yrs ago
@@hayds_93 Unfortunately she is static. You can see her at the Alberta Aviation Museum online. I played a small part as I worked at the airport in downtown Edmonton. YXD was an airport with a great history as it was really the gateway to the far north and subsequently Russia.
Im really enjoying the mosquito, might be my new favorite WWII plane, really excited to see more British planes, also they said in a Q and A the elevator is very twitchy because of the length of the joysticks in the real plane compared to most HOTAS, so it will require extra curvature.
Aaaah ok I’ll have to try that then and see thank you for sharing
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough What? Were you on one engine? :) Seriously, I was ripping along at sea level and a hair under 300 IAS (it's mph not knots) with eyes wide open as I skimmed the cliffs of Dover. Amazing machine!
Actual life saver I didn’t know what the hell was happening, I’m surprised my engineering graduate brain didn’t think about it 🤣
@@slammerf16 Should be getting to around 340mph on the deck IIRC. I think I saw it at least past 320 yesterday when I flew it.
@@CakePrincessCelestia I was at 2650rpm and +7 boost. Max sustainable power. Cruising 😊😊
Personally, I find WW2 history and combat so interesting. I love seeing these fights GS u the man bro
Conversation in the de Havilland design room:
"So... are we going to go with cannons or machine guns in the new Mosquito?"
"Yes"
"Alright then"
What's better than a Rolls Royce merlin engine?
.. Two of them
What's better than two Hispanos?
.. Four of them
“It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy. The British, who can afford aluminum better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building… they have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops.” Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe Commanding Officer
Down under, we have a lot of affection for the Mossie. We built it for the RAAF, at Bankstown just on the then outskirts of Sydney. They served in all kinds of roles, but predominantly bomber and attack roles in the South Pacific theatre. Aussie Mossies were famous for loading bombs without fins to save space, and taking off with bomb loads of approximately equal weight to a B-17. They were famous for using a tactic originally perfected on the A-20 Boston / Havoc, by dropping bombs at treetop height, there they would typically bounce two or three times, and then explode behind the bomber. Talk about having either big brass testicles, or a death wish! ;-)
The Mossie is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful planes in existence. Love the quality of the skin. It looks flown, a lot.
If I was flying DCS (Can't. I have an old Mac.) I'd be using the Mossie for strike and CAS missions. I'll be honest. I find those more interesting than dogfighting.
That 190 pilot flew pretty wel. He cleary wanted to take maximum advantage of his excellent roll rate
Yes! I was waiting on this one! I make pens, and currently I have two pens that a Mosquito wing spars from a mosquito that is being restored in Australia. Holding a piece of a historical and amazing aircraft is other worldly!
Wait, you did a pen from a piece of an mosquito?
And where do we buy these pens??
Listen, you can’t just say something like that and not drop some form of source or link.
(Unless it’s a special item not being produced, in which case it’s dope that you have your own piece of history!)
You made writing pens out of material from a Misquito aircraft, correct ?
@@jefferynelson yes, I have two pens that are ready to be turned on a lathe. They are custom orders. They cost $300. They come with a certificate of authenticity, with the aircrafts tail number. And they take about three months from order to delivery. It is highly labor intensive.
Truly a beautiful aircraft de Havilland were out playing their own game
I'm so glad you're doing more ww2 :)
The camera angle from the ground as the 190 was falling on the first fight was great, nice touch
The Mossie to me always felt like the sports car version of the muscle car Beaufighter.
Ah! Beautiful! The Plywood Prodigy! What a much needed addition to the ww2 environment!
Plywood Prodigy, Like that.
@@barriemilgate 😂 Thank you Barrie! I was thinking about Balsa Beauty too but the Mossie wasn't definitely that fragile! 😂
DH 98 had an amazing history. Several variations including anti ship canon, and extensive history.
We started getting Mossies in Australia but had to switch back to Beauforts and Beaufighters because the tropical Pacific delaminated the woodwork construction and they fell apart. If we wanted some lightning raiders we followed RAF-DAF example and wound out the boost regulators on P40Es for over 1700hp on ram air at treetop. Allison Inc. complained about that big time, but hey, pull two MGs out of the wings and you could put bombs all over it, take off short fields and fly fast. Couldn't do it on the later models though since they went auto and Allison was up in arms about it.
I have an idea the engineers went out to the tropics and after researching it, changed the resin they used on the Mossie for tropical climes so it stopped falling apart!
1:51 That cow in the middle of all those aircrafts LMAO
was wondering how long it would take someone to spot that lol.
The amazing concrete-eating cow.
What a plane! I really love the twin-engine British fighters, and they're so different in character. The Mosquito quite belies it's name as it's a bruiser, but the Lightning is named perfectly, fast and slim. I would love to see GS swap with someone in more of these dogfights, as I get the feeling that the wins come more from his superlative piloting skills a lot of the time than the aircraft. Mos vs Fw 190, sure that's a matchup, but some are ridiculous.
190 doesn’t really turn at all so this wasn’t surprising
There was one variant, Fighter Bomber XVIII, sometimes known the “Tsetse”, armed with a modified 57mm Anti Tank gun with 25 rounds carried aboard! I thinks it’s main purpose was anti shipping and specifically U-boats (when they were surfaced, obviously lol)
It was a modified field gun with a 37 shell auto-loader and fired one round every 2 seconds. It was primarily for sinking U-boats, but was also used for attacking shipping.
There is a recorded case of a the Tsetse shooting a Ju-88 and it shell removed the engine completely.
@@Tom55data I think you share my view that the Mosquito was a very underrated warplane….. lol
@@richardpoynton4026 Yes, you are right, a bomb load the same as the flying fortress, initially the fastest plane - faster than all fighters (until the Fw-190); and just beautiful.
Its only issue was not using contra-rotating props making it bit of a handful on takeoff due to torque effects, but still loved by the pilots.
@@Tom55data Mosquito was a fantastic long range fighter bomber, night fighter and photo recce aircraft. Air Superiority fighter and Strategic Bomber it was not. 4000lb bomb load capability didn't become operational until February 1944 and it could only be a 4000lb HC bomb. Any other bomb load was limited to 2000lbs if long range was required as the drop tanks were needed for any mission with a combat range over 400 miles. Berlin missions required drop tanks and if they didn't feed, the weapon load had to be jettisoned on the first target of opportunity and the aircraft had to go home (in a lot of cases landing at the first base it could reach).
The Mosquito was about 4 mph faster than an FW 190
I remember my Dad telling me when I was young, and first discovered the beautiful planes of WWII, how the Mosquito was his favorite plane, ever.
I couldn't believe his favorite plane was something named after a fragile, annoyong pest.
But my goodness she's a beauty, and so impresive with the boom-n-zoom.
Love the mossie to bits, but it was designed as a (very fast) generalist. Amongst its many other roles it was a formidable night fighter. BUT I would never put it up against a FW-190 in a daytime dogfight. Was the '190 pilot under instructions to lose?
That was extremely fun to watch
One of the best aircraft ever built.
So good the Germans emulated it with the Ta-154. Which many believe inspired the A-10 when the USAF was selecting a CAS platform to counter the Soviet tank threat In Europe, in the 1970's.
I believe the gun delay might be due to the guns being operating hydraulics instead of electrical triggers
Found your channel recently and loving your content!
thank you and welcome to the channel.
In the British Royal Air Force only the best pilots got to fly the Mosquito which meant every squadron was an elite squadron. This is why they took on the tasks were given. Such bombing that against Goring. They also had something of a vendetta against the Gestapo, attacking several of the facilities.
If the Mosquito pilot saw you early enough then there was little chance of catching it. In his book I Flew for the Fuhrer the author Heinz Knoke writes about having to chase Mosquito's and never catching one. At one point he even closed all the intakes for the radiators so as to reduce drag and still could not catch the Mosquito he was chasing. In the end he had to open them up again so as not to blow his aircraft up.
In 2013 my local airshow here in nz was the place where the first mosquito to be restored to flying condition for serveral years mades it debut. At the time it was the only flying one in the world. I was 12 years old and i will never forget seeing it flying formation with two mk9 spitfires and a p-51d. My understanding is that it was sold to a buyer in Canada where it lives today.
Such a beautiful bird repsonsible for one of the highlights of my childhood
I met the daughter of Bud Tingwell. A respected Australian actor. He flew Mossies and P.R. Spits.
When piloting the Mossie , his navigator was Richard Burton.
True story. I never met Bud, but his daughter said her Dad said to retell this story to me.
I worked at RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Australia (oldest continually operational military airfield in the world.
They are restoring a Mossie to ground exhibit status.
The coolest plane ever made. No contest.
I dunno. I'd love to see the P-38 come to DCS.
Love this aircraft, might be a bit biased considering I live not far from.where they were built! Fantastic to see it in DCS
The plane: A twin engined chonky boi armed to the brim with 8 guns, 4 of which are 20mm cannons, being one of the fastest planes during the year of its production.
RAF: Hmm....yes....let's call it...The Mosquito
I wonder if they'll do the Mosquito Tsetse variant with the 6 pounder autocannon in the nose? An RAF pilot in world war two shot out the whole engine block of a Stuka with a single 6lb shell hit. The usual role for a Tsetse was anti shipping as a burst from the autocannon was like being hit by a Frigate. They used to fire 6ft or so to the left side of surfaced subs as the shells would deflect in water to the right and then straight into the sub itself. The Mossie was an absolute legend in terms of its versatility.
Actually it was a JU88 that had it's port engine "removed" by a round from the Mohlins 6 pounder. Squadron leader Tony Philips of 618 (Special Detachments) Squadron was the pilot responsible, in April 1944, off the French Atlantic coast. Home in time for tea and medals...
@@Jon.Cullen Thanks for those details. I watched the pilot talk about this a fair while go so got my enemy plane mixed up and couldn't remember his name but now i can go search for that interview again.
@@hoogmonster Personally I would liked to have seen the expression on the face of the JU88 pilot as he saw his port engine being punched clean off the wing! The link to that clip is above.
I read some forum years ago that someone said his relative (father, grandfather, uncle maybe) flew both the Mosquito and the Beaufighter in combat. The Mosquito was quite a "dog" and turned like a bus but the Beaufighter was quite a good turning aircraft for its size. Also these two multirole aircrafts are not the best climbers. The Mossie was rather what we call "interdictor aircraft", best used for hit and run missions.
Bristol Beaufighter - a man's plane.
I agree. In this video the Mosquito was too nimble. I should have mushed more into those turns. Heavier on the controls. Had a higher angle of attack going into those turns which would bleed off airspeed quickly. Resulting in a stall if the turn rate was held too long. In this video the Mosquito preformed as if its weight and drag profile was about the same as the FW190.
And that is not the case at all. Not realistic IMHO.
The FW190 should have been able to out turn and get behind the Mosquito. Which would force the Mosquito to use its speed in a shallow dive to pull away from the FW190 as it exited its tight speed bleeding turn onto the tail of the Mosquito.
Then the Mosquito would be building speed and getting smaller and smaller in the windshield of the FW190 as it pulled away. That is what should happen if the flight modeling was accurate. Also the Mosquito in shallow dive should build speed faster than the FW190 does, especially since the FW190 speed on exit of the turn would be around 255 MPH. If he was pulling max g's turn rate at the black out point.
At 5,000 feet straight and level the Mosquito max speed is 355 MPH the FW190 A4 is 324 MPH. In a shallow dive the Mosquito should be able to maintain 375 MPH while the FW190 would max out at 340 MPH. The difference is the weight and drag profile in a 500 foot per minute decent rate for both aircraft. The Mosquito would hit its max 375 speed when the FW190 was still accelerating through 300 MPH on its way to its 340 max speed trying to catch up. Which it would never do.
But if the Mosquito tried to dogfight and turn with the FW190, then the Mosquito would lose speed faster than the FW190 does in turns and end up in a situation when its speed was slower than the FW190 and could no longer keep turning with the FW190.
That would be when the FW190 would be able to get behind the Mosquito and then kill it, because the Mosquito would not have any speed reserve left for an escape maneuver. This did not happen in that video, the Mosquito came out of all the maneuvers with enough speed to keep closing the gap with the FW190.
@@danhammond9066 Operation Jericho Mosquitos needed escort from Typhoons as the target was close to an FW190 base.
The instructions were to bomb and run before the FWs could catch them. Sadly the mission commander went round again for one last look at the target, and got shot down (disobeyed his own order).
@@danhammond9066 This makes total sense to me. I am no expert but I was very surprised at how easily the heavier Mosquito with its two quite widely spaced engines was able to out-fight a FW190.
The Mosquito is quite the beast in so many ways. Consider the bomber variant that could carry 4000 pounds and cruised at 295 while the huge B-17 usually carried 8000 pounds, or less, and cruised around 190.
But the large b-17 had something you can only get with a large plane - range
Check the range Vs payload curves, it's quite enlightening.
To be fair though, the prevailing doctrine pre WW2 was for heavy bombers that would fight their way to the target. US and UK both went that way.
It was the genius of De Havilland that went against the wisdom of the day and built this wonderful machine. That's why it was a one off.
You can argue all day about which was the best heavy bomber of the war, but the Mossie was the best light bomber no question. It was an excellent night fighter and a superb fighter bomber... Albeit more to the bomber end of that spectrum since it was designed as a bomber first of all.
@@slammerf16 I’m not saying either one was “better”. In fact I think that’s a ridiculous discussion. They’re two completely different roles. One was a long range heavy bomber. One was a fast light bomber with less range.
@@dogeness I agree, that would be a pointless discussion - but the Mossie had enough range to get to Berlin from England.
The intro looks like taken out of a release trailer 😍
Last time i played this in Gunship Sequel, and i call this "The Wooden Bri'ish Belkan Bullshit.exe"
Because i'm just surprised how good is this
I think there is a lot of love for this plane from ED just on the work they have put into the cockpit
Famous quote on the Mosquito
"The British, who can afford aluminium better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building, and they give it a speed which they have now increased yet again. What do you make of that? They have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops!'
Herman Goering
Detail is the meaning of the word realism of which many hundreds were built in Canada.We have a Mosi being restored right here in Delta BC Canada as I post this comment to your channel.Cheers mate.
It was a beast of a plane looking forward to seeing you over the channel with it soon
The Wooden Wonder. Jack of all trades and master of all...
Aaah! At last the wooden wonder arrives. A most beautiful plane and a true fighter / bomber. Great video. thanks.
One of the top planes EVERYONE has been waiting on.
Seems like a rather large aircraft that should not be able to do what it does!
Had the pleasure to see the mosquito in person. Beautiful looking aircraft.
I have just read somewhere that the Mossie had neumatic powered guns rather than electric which is the cause of the delay in firing
There’s a flight museum in va beach va that has a mosquito, worth a visit. They also have a nice collection of rare German equipment as wrll
Military Aviation Museum. It's a great time. They even have a flyable I-16. 😎
The RAAF Museum in Australia is restoring a Mossie They had a 262 and 163, but sent these to our War Memorial in Canberra
A REAL FB Vl De Havilland Mossie is being restored at the Omaka Aviation Centre in Blenhiem NZ! Look it up, World Class Display!
It was hidden in a Barn for over 60 years.
I grabbed a couple of six packs of high grade beer last night. Sat down, played some HoI4, fired up DCS, and there it was. The notification of the Mosquitos release. I was just about to buy it when I remember, my wife flipped shit last month when I bought the K4 and P-47. Too much money in one month. I cracked another beer to think about it and when I woke up this morning I had bought it. Sorry dear.
THIS is what I have waited for, since first reading about air warfare as a kid. The Mosy ,called a fighter bomber...But never mentioned in air to air against other fighters/fighter bombers.
I was AMAZED at this video. The 190 looked like it was turning on its axis, but the woody turned with, and out turned it in the begining...Stunning.
I would have been a major pain, to Brit command, had I been there. I would have the 'observer' stay to fly with someone else. And the machine guns removed. Just needless wieght. Maybe I'm ignorant. Maybe command would have me fly alone....In a Brewster Buffalo.
The .303 mg's were fairly effective at close range, and deliverrd all of the bullets in a quite concentrated area. I also read that the .303 tracer rounds heloed confirm aim for the 20 mm canons...
.303 aren't as effective as 20mm by a long way, it's true but more dakka is always good. It's not like a .303 would bounce off a Focke Wolf, they'd make holes all the way through and turn a wing or a fuselage panel into a sieve.
Holy crap I NEVER expected the Mosquito to be able to win a turnfight against any single-engine airplane. I don't know much about the Mossie and I was assuming that a big fat twin-engine heavy strike aircraft would be helpless against a 190. My jaw dropped when I saw that first turn. I might need to get this plane.
Man that mosquito took a healthy bite out of that FW-190!
It's got 4 Hispano 20mm cannons. It can destroy anything it will face in one pass. Some also carried four .303 machine guns, but I don't know why. By 1941 the .303 was obsolete.
Love the Mosquito
This one makes me think about the p38 that love so much, maybe one day in DCS.
I can see where a Mossy could out zoom a single engine fighter using its speed but surely with those two engines, its moment of inertia would be so great that it couldn’t out-roll a single seater? Appears that it was out-turning the Focke also? What am I missing?
Spectacular Mosquito
Absolute knife fight, even the most ridiculous movies wouldn't produced something that close and dramatic
If you ever decide to start doing a little documentary series about various different aircraft, this would be a great starter
Thank you for getting this up so quickly, I am impressed and darned happy.
Equally I am relieved that you like her. I'm still waiting for everything to download. Mind you I have the children this weekend so there was never any chance of doing anything.
I'm already looking forward to seeing you in her again.
I'm looking forward to the rocket load out....tank hunting time!
thanks brother I'll try to keep the videos coming so you can get at least a little mosquito fix this weekend.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thank you, you're very kind 😃🤩😃🤩
Carried a bigger bomb load to Berlin than the b17. She really is the wooden wonder.
So this is what that Dengue and Malaria shit was all about... now I know.
One of the best planes of the war....It could carry the same amount as a B-17 Faster, more percsion, with less crew. That and its wide range of varients Not only of the plane But it's weapons The "Tse Tse" model carried a 57mm auto firing cannon with a 6 pound shell And rockets on the wings. The same model at the end of the war tested a 96mm auto firing Cannon with a 12 pound shell it worked and the program was scrapped for the jet age These aircraft them became Target tows...Yellow and black stripes
The biggest part of these was the wood..This meant all the metal workers making aircraft Tied up doing 12 hour shifts to produce aircraft Did not have to worry..Canadians And Britsh / Aussies hired on Cabniet makers And wood workers to the force The abudance of North American Birch wood meant there would never be a hold up on supply
----- I have not flown the Mosquito in DCS I have flown it on a very old game that had really good flight physics The Mossy I found was a brick on take offs and landings due to the torque of the engines You would find yourself overshooting the runway if you landed like a normal aircraft And a slight pull to the left if i remember (rudder to fix) However with flaps down And a 1/4 throttle You could float you're Cannon on a tank And throw in 1 shot and line for another one before having to throttle up for another pass (keep in mind there was a reload rate of 1 to 2 secs between shots) ...These's were always good and keeping speed climb rate They are a boom and zoom aircraft And turning you do should be on the climb Or dive AKA a 2 o'clock loop.. To stay alive I use to think in terms of a ground pounder with speed to get out of there if faced with more than 1 enemy near by
This wants me to have the Fokker G-1 in this game, like the Mosquito it had wooden wings but it was a twin-boom design.
Think of the P-38, but build from the mid 1930s, with 4 or 8 machine guns in the nose and a rear gunner.
The guns are fired electro-pneumatically, hence the slight delay in trigger response time ;)
A lot of people don’t think about how the Mosquito could do all these things, and still haul the same bomb load as a B-17 on the way in..
How about doing a video with the Mosquito dogfighting a P-38 Lightning?
Beautiful opening sequence.
I had a WW2 vet tell me he saw a Mossy consistently outmaneuver a P-38 in a mock dogfight.
You promised, and you delivered! Thanks GS!
4:40 that scissors fight got intense for a bit. Loved the video.
Any P-38 content coming? I would love to see a BF109 chewed up by a Lightning.
I wish brother, no p-38 in the sim at this time but I'm sure it will eventually make an appearance.
So the question I would like to ask is why the 20mm on the mossie is so good, but completely shit on the spitfire
Both had Hispano cannons, but with the nose mount it is a much easier system to aim at any range, whereas in the wing mount locations on the Spit, the guns were set to converge at a set point in space ahead of the aircraft. If you find that convergence zone, you find how to hit hard with a Spit.
a question I also would like to have answered
@@debbiestimac5175 They're really accurate on the Mossie, yes - but also the difference in terminal effects is striking (sorry!). If you hit a Ju88 with the 20mm there's a massive flash and usually a nice big fire.
@@debbiestimac5175 also I think just the Moises had 4 20mm, instead of 2 20mm on spitfire
@@debbiestimac5175 to hazard a guess, I'm going to say the convergence point would be between 250 and 500 yards, depending on the caliber of the weapon(s) being employed
The Mosquito.....gotta hand it to the Brits on that one. I think if I could have flown any aircraft in any air force during WW2, this is it.
This is what I'm been waiting for ... cheers GS
"The only problem with the Mosquito, is that we never had enough of them."
YESSSS!!My FAV channel
Truly amazing!!
My father and I are having a feud on who would win in a Dogfight. A BF 109 K-4 or a tomcat jet fighter. I think the 109 would win. I would love to see that dogfight in DCS.
@ Panzer...if the Tomcat pilot elected to go into a turning fight with a 109, the 109 would win hands down. How the Tomcat would win would be in a slashing attack, either from below or from out of the Sun.
@@donaldtireman its honestly about skill and smarts, I agree. But it would be a interesting fight nonetheless.
@@erichthepantherausfh7465 Yes, very interesting
Herman Goring Said “The British have a new aircraft. “ They call it the Mosquitoe, and it’s made of no aliminuim which have limited supply and they have plenty but of wood.” “It is faster And outproforms than anything we have and when I think of this aircraft I go green with envy.
I shot so many of these down on the GS WW2 server today. Big, easy targets
Flying what?
Easy targets? Certainly not true of the real aircraft, with the lowest losses of any aircraft in bomber command, and faster than almost every fighter!
@@lohikarhu734 BF109. The Mosquito is extremely fast and heavily armed, but having large outboard weights on the wing (the engines) made it less manoeuvrable than a single-engine fighter, so in a turning fight, it was usually outclassed. The Mosquito clashed against FW190s in Scandinavia, but they were usually escortes by RAF mustangs.
Absolutely beautifuly done. A pleasure to watch.
IMVHO I think the staining to the machine is over the top. Crews would have been appalled to get into a machine this dirty. Crews took pride in the state of their machines and one pilot I talked with bawled out his ground crew flight sergeant for oil streaks on the nacelle to the extent that the FSgt complained to the CO. In the “interview” that followed the CO said to the FSgt that he was welcome to accompany the pilot on a mission to get an insight into what the pilot went through, then he could legitimately complain if he thought the pilot was being unfair. If he didn’t want to take up the offer he suggested he get some rags and polish the machine as requested! Ouch! As an aside one squadron found if they polished the mosquito with furniture polish (Mansion House brand) they could get another 5knots out of it.
Yeah I didn’t think Mosquitos were used in dogfights as such. More of a spot first the zoom and boom when used in air to air at all. Fun vid though.
He’s literally done vids of A10s dogfighting. He’s not worried about using them as they should be used
@@bro26mohw yes true true
Indeed brother, no worries we will use the mossie as it’s intended as well.
Nice looking for sure. Don't see it surviving 1 circle.
ED serves us a little bizzare set of new WWII aircraft. Next me 262, really?
Always crazy how diffrent these cockpits look compared to war thunder
Doesn't the roll rate of the FW 190 count for anything?
Such a beautiful plane. Wonder if those flying it were aware of the mystique it would engender forevermore. On the plus side, maybe this will get us closer to the Beaufighter as a flying model.
Awesome!
i have all these planes but the Mossie is much OP in Dogfighting and low sped turn, roll abilities ....it should be easy meet for a 190A in that height
Now I'm going to have to watch 633 Squadron again
Beautiful bird, definitely one of my many favorites.
That’s a very good 1st impression video. Getting to the meat of things of what everyone eventually wants to see…how do the massive cannons shred opponents?
Amazingly modeled exterior with the cannon soot and propeller marks.
Very curious to how those 8 guns would shred large bombers too.
They would completely shred one, although they didn't have much of a chance in WW2 unless maybe they came across a FW Condor. They did a number on JU88 and ME110 nightfighters though.
If I could go to any place in time, it would be to stand by a mosquito as it took off. Fortunately that was 1977 in Yorkshire
I've been looking forward to the release of the Mosquito for a while, I still have not committed to DCS but I may consider it for these WW2 birds.
My two favorite planes from the period. Hate to see either loose.