Is Eckankar a Cult? Part 2 - Responding to Comments
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- This video is a follow up to my first review video of Eckankar and explanation of what it's like to be a member. I answer a few comments that I received in the first one linked below. Both of my parents were initiated Eckists before I was born and I'd like to share my experiences.
Is Eckankar a Cult? Part 1
• Is Eckankar a Cult? Pa...
Eckankar Texts
Shariyat Ki Sugmad books 1 and 2
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The Tiger's Fang
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What is Eckankar?
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Try it yourself. Membership:
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Photo: My dad and I at the Eck Temple in Chanhassen, MN in 2006
Sikh text referred to in my video: ruclips.net/video/trLiOS0QEIo/видео.htmlsi=IlAtobMPxaQDZlRV
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I misquoted Harold Klemp at the end of this video. What I meant to say was “Your freedom ends where another’s begins. The line is called responsibility.” -Harold Klemp
Meaning live and let live. ✨
From the heart, thank you. For pushing past any introvert challenges you may have had, for talking and sharing openly, and being genuine about your experiences as an Eckist in your life.
I am also an Eckist, unable to connect with local Eckists in the way I need to, so I can't begin to share with you how grateful I feel for the Eck bringing your uploads to my feed without me searching, at exactly the time I've needed to find it with the direction I am about to head!
With love in ECK,
Richard
Hi, Thea, thank you for your stories. I’m glad to hear about this teaching. I heard about it from JeffMara podcast on NDEs. There was this one episode with a professor in music who practices Hu and Ekkenkart (sorry if misspelled) singing. I was touched by his personal story, he lost his granddaughter, yet I felt that his soul is pure and untouched by bitterness of loss. I’m practicing Joe Dispenza meditations. His philosophy is very similar to what you are describing in the teachings you practice. Would love to learn more about your metaphysical journey! 🙏🦋
I love your work.
❤ may ECK blessings be
Thank you for doing this series! It's very interesting. The main thing that had me worry in your last video was when you mentioned the $60 suggested donation for the first initiation. How much money do are you expected to spend to practice/keep practicing Eckankar? How much money do people typically spend on it? Where does the money go?
You renew your membership yearly and the suggested donation is I believe $60? I don’t know any organization that doesn’t have membership options. They don’t charge for initiations. And they’ve slowed them down so it’s not so easy to get them anymore.
thanks for explaining :) @@TheaLightweaver
"Where does the money go?"
Yeah, isn't that the question? And as far as anyone really knows, there's not much of an answer. Pretty suspect, really.
@@wasd____I think the money goes to printing the books and newsletters they send you, salaries for the lovely people who answer the phones when you call with questions, etc. It could go to helping organize events or for the main temple in Minnesota which I recommend visiting. It’s beautiful and feels like your heart is being cleansed.
@@TheaLightweaver I've been there. It's just a building to me.
Re: the Book of the Dead: what does "put that in my consciousness" and "soul travel to the vibration of the those words" even mean?
It feels like someone just spouting word salad to justify whatever random free-association interpretation they want to make about the Book of the Dead (or, for that matter, any text). That's not how you gain a legitimate understanding of anything. That's just a Rorschach test of pure personal projection. It doesn't help you learn, it just reinforces or confirms personal biases already held. That's the opposite of growth or expansion of understanding. That's the whole gimmick of Eckankar; it teaches you to stick your head up your own ass by chanting "HU" and call it the sublime, and it has little else to offer. Certainly nothing worthwhile or truly significant.
Not saying you're in a cult, but it definitely feels like a psychological (and spiritual) dead end in every meaningful way, designed only to keep people buying Klemp's books and paying membership dues in perpetuity. It's just some guy's cash cow.
I’m sorry but you sound like someone who’s never soul traveled. Of course you’re reacting like that when you don’t know what I’m talking about since you’ve never experienced it. It’s an experience that happens beyond the mind. It slips in subtly when there’s no thoughts. But I see what I’m saying isn’t for you and that’s fine. I hope you’re happy with your own path.
@@TheaLightweaver On the contrary, I know exactly what you're talking about. If by "soul travel" you mean the subjective, not objectively provable, experience of being conscious of the apparent presence and experiences of oneself in places that one is not physically bodily located in, then literally everyone experiences that. It's called dreaming, among other possible labels along on the spectrum of varying states of consciousness.
Telling you that you're "special" because you experience something subjective just like everyone else and then using the non-objective unverifiable nature of that subjectivity to trick you into using it as confirmation bias to buy into the delusions of "personal growth" or subliminality that some spiritual "teacher" spins for the benefit of drawing you further into their cult is a very common technique, but not one that's really to your benefit, I'm afraid.
I think people need to make a distinction between organizations and teachings propagated within organizations. An evil person can start a religion and teach good things to entice people to join. The teachings can be good and true, but the culture and organization can be culty. Not saying this is happening with Eckankar, but it’s happened with many groups.
Cult..in Eck, there is no belief. We experience light and sound on our own, usually in company with an inner Master.
How can I contact you?
You could email me at everythingfaestudio@gmail.com
It sounds like a cult and you don't have special powers
You sound like a great person. Thanks for gracing my video with your presence.
@@TheaLightweaver and you sound like a scam artist
Tasteless remark.
@@matthewx7486 tasteless grift
Like Shamus I Tabrizi said: We are nothing. All we can hope is to be pure enough for God's love to shine through.
Life is love, and love is life. Being a vehicle for the Eck is all we aspire to.
when i found eck at 39 years old it spoke of all the things i had known and done since i was really little. im 43 now and so grateful there is a spiritual successor to these things our spirits know. it’s not religious, it’s beautiful energy. it’s following spirit. it’s following to self. thank you so much for your videos. it’s so interesting to me that you were born into the light teachings. i know much less than you through the discourses but everything i can get my heart/hands onto is a beautiful confirmation that how i’ve felt always IS a way others feel/conduct spirits also. ❤
Thanks 👍❤😂😅 Awesome ECK, Wonderful Path to God. Thanks Again
I believe in freedom of association, but it's an objective and provable fact that Twitchell plagarised significant amounts of other people's works. In Twitchell's book 'The Key to Eckankar,' he attributed words to Rebazar Tarzs that were directly lifted from Neville Goddard, specifically 'The Power of Awareness (1952). Infact, Twitchell's plagiarism was so idiotic that he inadvertently incorporated well-known passages from the famous poet and artist William Blake, whom Neville happened to be quoting.
That’s disappointing
The beginnings of a religion or spiritual path are always less grand than they are later portrayed. The decisive factor is that you can work "successfully" with its methods.
Twitchell got a job to do : Gather the scattered words of the light and sound, and make a viable path out of it! He had an immense job, and learned speed reading, and read stacks of books each week. He knew he had to make the path recognizable and understandable to the concioussness of his days.
Therefore you can find those accuzations, it was his job. But the books are only to inspire you to go inside, to soul travel. Thats all. If they inspire you to soul travel, seeing the light, hearing the sound, then they have made their purpose.
100%, Twichell is proven beyond doubt to be a MASSIVE plagiarist. Kinda disgusting really.
@@mortenhallangen1933 Oh, right, plagiarism is totally justifiable because "it was his job" and "it's inspirational."
Definitely the kinds of defenses that would save your bacon if you were caught plagiarizing work in an academic setting, because those are completely valid reasons for dishonesty and intellectual theft.
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If your religious organisation's "place of worship" looks like a 1980's shopping mall, then it's probably not very good.
Y tho? 80’s shopping malls were 🔥
@@TheaLightweaver They were places of consumerism. Not for contemplating the divine.
@@skymanifest8339 you can contemplate anything anywhere. Still not sure why something so superficial as a building reminding you of a mall means there’s no spiritual value with what’s inside the walls. You are a silly one.
@@TheaLightweaver I'm silly, huh? You have a proven liar and a blatant plagarist as your religious founding father, and you're literally okay with that. If you ever witness the majesty of Cologne Cathedral, Westminster Abbey, or the Notre Dame in the flesh, you'll know what i'm talking about. But anyway, enjoy you slushy and Taco Bell while you contemplate the divine.
I like the Eck Temple and its aesthetics. You can find beautiful photographs and painted pictures of it on the internet.