Excellent talk. Very clever to note the pattern of 'set up the pain - lay the blame'. You are finding aspects of the Sussex's behaviour that most other commentators miss. I very much appreciate that you support your theories with credible evidence such as interviews and books and articles by reputable authors rather than resorting to unprovable rumours and tabloid fantasies.
I second it. There are some channels that discuss H and M that just roll with gossip or any idea that comes into their mind as fact. it's actually helpful to meghan that they do this, as they can be easily discredited as OTT haters using evidence or lack thereof. The main difference in this channel of Shauna's and other channels like the one I described is the iQ of the presenter.
Harry let Meghan's blatant racism accusation stand for 2 years. The queen and her husband went to their graves with this accusation hanging around their necks. Harry accepted an award for standing up to racism in his own family. Then Harry tries to walk back on the accusation. Only a paranoid and delusional mind like Harry's can think this is fair and reasonable behaviour.
"They set up the pain then lay the blame' - spot on! Typical behavior of the narcissist! As a South African, I was gobsmacked at their victimhood using my country as a backdrop - all on the taxpayer's dime mind you!
@@thevintageread I'm a South African currently based in Vietnam. Hence the occassional 'Good Morning from Vietnam' quip! Thanks for your breakdown. It's always a joy to hear your level-headed perspectives.
Yes, the South African interview was really shocking, but not as H&M intended. Rich people feeling sorry for themselves, and no sense whatever for where they were, not in the rich parts, but the most vulnerable ones. I was disgusted.
Imagine the ungrateful Meghan calling such a lavish residence in South African a Housing Unit. Like she had ever lived in such a place before meeting Harry😄😄😄 the audacity asking if your ok, when you live with all the good things life can offer. So sad a person
I loved your observation that Meghan was "getting into character" before announcing, "No one asked how I'm doing," as if she were a poor orphan. The level of self-centeredness to say that in a place where there really are so many poor orphans is astounding.
An hour beforehand she'd been at a Centre for Black women who'd been victims of domestic violence and sexual abuse. One hour later she's whining about how hard it is to be a Princess 😮
To me Tom Bradby reacted to Harry's "no we never called my family racist" line with the same shock and confusion that anyone does when someone tells them an outrageous and unexpected lie. He really didn't think Harry would backtrack like that, particularly when its this very issue that has probably caused a large amount of the rift between them and the Royal Family. I agree that Tom didn't want to push Harry further on the topic because of the risk of him walking out of the interview, but think he was also having the dawning realisation that he was interviewing a man who has taken total leave of reality, responsibility and consequence. As they've been friends for a while this must have felt very sad for Tom, perhaps enough so that he was on autopilot the rest of the interview.
Harry is paranoid and delusional. He blames everyone else for his problems except the real culprits - his toxic wife and his own stupidity. Diana would be shocked at how he has profited from attacking his own brother.
It’s easy to lie, if there is no proof. But we have recorded evidence of their lies. You can tell H&M are accomplished liars(despite their poor memories of what they said), because of the words they use, which allows them to back pedal their stories. But we are no longer tricked by their deceptions.
@@donnajarvis9542 I don't feel bad for him either. He didn't hesitate to interview them in South Africa and accepted their stories unquestioningly. He had chosen his side between William and Henry and he chose badly. He needs to experience the consequences of his poor choices, just like Henry does.
When Harry shook his head 'no' in response to the racism statement, that was it for me. Those two had the whole world thinking and believing that the RF are racists. Even the sugars were angry at him.
Harry denying what he said, having never believed him showed me that my assessment when Harry and Meghan had that interview with Oprah Winfrey, was correct what total bullshit.
@@pinkthistle5713 Me too.I wanted to wipe that smug smile off his face with a wet haddock! Oprah asked him if racism was the reason they left the RF. He said it was partly the reason. Does he have a memory problem, or is he just an outright liar?
As a Brit I interpreted Tom's reaction as 'Mate you really are an imbecile' and for the rest of the interview Tom was on auto pilot looking as if he was the one who wanted to flee. A bit of context H and Tom have been very good friends for years so it seemed to me that the scales fell from Tom's eyes
I agree. 👍 Until that moment, I think Tom has totally believed their narrative. He looked completely shocked, and horrified when Harry made that outrageous claim.
Tom Bradby's facial expression when Harry denied that they never claimed the RF were racists, it was priceless. I hadn't watched the whole SA piece, but I did notice her look of excitement/delight when she was standing with Harry, prior to the nobody asked interview, and it certainly didn't look like she was struggling. They both need to walk in the steps of those who are struggling. I'd like to see the UK journalist Nana Akua interview them, but they'd probably have to be tied to their chairs, or else they'd run! Thank you again for a telling piece of work, thoroughly enjoyable.
Oh yes, please bring in the wonderful Nana Akua to interview the Harkles. She would have no problem confronting them when they lie and deny allegations.
A few years ago I did a volunteer program in South Africa, one of the days we went to visit a school and on the way we drove past a bunch of basically tin sheds and the coordinator told us that's where the children live with their families. It definitely put things into perspective, so I just can't fathom how MM could be full of self pity while she was over there.
From one Aussie to another... I 🎉love your narrative... very Aussie.... straight to the point. It is so refreshing to hear commentary that is honest and not airy fairy.
As a Brit I very much appreciate it too, particularly the lack of hysteria and exaggeration about them 'bringing down the Monarchy' that so many of our American cousins indulge in - whilst having no idea how the Constitutional Monarchy actually works.
Thank you for spotting patterns and illustrating their long game. I felt Tom Bradby was honestly shocked at the underlying viciousness of Harry's response. It probably was the first time Harry had dropped his mask in front of Tom. It seemed like you could see Tom suddenly putting all the pieces together and realizing he had been taken for a very long ride and used. I think Tom had felt he had a real mutual connection with Harry.
The look on Tom Bradby’s face when H said it was the British press that called his family racist, not MM, was priceless. Tom’s face to H’s remark looked like - Are you kidding me? What game are you playing with me? Tom’s eyes seemed to open very wide when H spoke about this claim on racism. H and MM know how to play a game when being interviewed. And when H talks about the Royal Family leaking and planting stories, I want to tell H to look in the mirror!
Yes BUT it was disgusting that Tom asked the twit about racism in the Royal family in the first place,he clearly was hoping H would give him some juicy hints. TOM deserves a kick in the pants.
That was the moment she lost me. I couldn't believe she could dance in the townships with the most deprived women one day, and then give that little survive/thrive speech the next. Nearly everybody in South Africa is just surviving, and could only dream of achieving her wealth and privilege, but she chose that moment to say it wasn't enough for her.
@@charliesmith_ That's simply amazing, and IT IS NOT a coincidence! I'm looking forward to watching your podcast when you had have done all the research and put it in comprehensible bits for us to enjoy... GOOD LUCK, may the Force be with you and support you in this huge task! Blessings!
@@charliesmith_ Just one question, are these newspapers from 2010 or 2020? I saw a previous message that said "2010", but now has disappeared from here...
I think the best bit of the Tom Bradby interview was his incredulity when H denied any racism. It was gold. Nobody could believe Hs answer and Tom showed that in his face. And, yes, H was so angry that he’d been asked that question (the audacity of it) I thought if Tom had pushed it any further H would have walked out, and possibly laid one on him as he left. Both H&M are so convinced by their own publicity and entitlement they feel they have every right to avoid any questions they don’t like. They feel they can make up anything (like the ‘fire’ in As room in SA) and make accusations against anybody who they think has wronged them. It’s this behaviour that makes them so disliked and I cannot understand those who support them, unless it’s because of their own agendas
But all h and me me me's interviews are pre arranged guestions... they never are surprised even oprah....all scripted, an act from start to finish. Only shock, Mariah Carey saying me me was a diva.
It’s great, it showed H for the contemptible little twonk he really is, to lie like that. If he was caught off guard, then I applaud it, more like that please!
I remember Diana’s interview vividly. Diana says that” no one ever asks if I’m alright”. As usual there’s never anything original from her. Diana even threw herself down stairs, when pregnant with Harry so, I’m sure that’s where she got the ‘suicide’ claim from as well. She obviously had studied Diana, very well !
Also there is a story that Diana helped a good friend after her miscarriage at home and they buried the remains in Kensington Palace gardens I think, it was certainly one of the Royal residences. Whether that story really is true I don’t know, but it’s in one of the books written about Diana
What stuck out to me from the first Bradby interview is that Meghan doesn't actually say that NOBODY has asked if she's okay - she says that "not many people" have asked if she's okay. So then, a nonzero number of people have asked? Just not many? Not enough? How many is enough?
The comment “It is not enough to just survive, you have to thrive” came from Maya Angelou! I heard Maya use it in one of her interviews and immediately realized when Meghan quoted it!
I see most people complaining that the interviewers never pushed Harry too much, and I agree. But wether or not it was on purpose, I feel like that was the best thing they could have done, because the whole drama revolves around M and H not being allowed to tell their side of things. Then let them speak, let them say everything they want, all of it, so that we really get a full picture of their delusion. If they had been challenged a lot on the interviews, they would still be going around saying they were being silenced and manipulated by the media. LET THEM SAY EVERYTHING THEY WANT, cause now we see, they said everything and now we can see who they are from their own mouths.
You are exceptionally privileged when you have food, housing, family, education, international travel, and have the time to sit back and ponder, is that all there is
Absolutely 💯 % correct! especially the surviving/thriving bit. It incenses me when entitled rich people cry poor me about how hard life is, so disgusting 🤦🏼♀️🤨.
It was one of those trite fridge magnet-type sayings that she comes out with, and it's nonsense. The word "survive" is one that can be read in several different ways. She was tone deaf to the meaning it carried in the environment that she was in. She always is because she cannot lift her focus from herself, nor has she the ability to self-reflect and correct her course. In the sense that she meant it, though - well, we all survive, but few of us actually 'thrive', because the word implies a perfect or near-perfect life. The real world isn't like that unless you're spoilt silly.
Haha, yeah, considering their status, they are actually overly surviving and thriving: Mansion, cars, expensive clothes, 2 children, dinner at gourmand/ gourmet restaurants etc.
That really hit me hard..I’d just had a young adult child die..and I thought all I do is survive and that’s a struggle ..so many people have issues in life that thriving is not an option. She is tone deaf
Not once have either of them been pushed hard enough in any interview. The media walk around on eggshells with these two grifters. I did notice Harry was already in a mood and seemed very angry in that second interview.
That's because the interviewer is tied up before the interview, so they have to keep to the script provided. They would refuse an interview without that assurance or just get up and walk out
VERY interesting video! I also felt Tom Bradby had a tinge of regret. He realized he'd 'been played' as all the Harkle victims eventually realize. They are a vile duo and I thank you for bringing both a literary analysis and some psychological insight into your narrative. Your hard work is very much appreciated!!
I also noticed the manipulation of the 'Are you OK?' in her op-ed. She seems incredibly manipulative in my opinion. So many 'threats' in the Cut interview as well. Tom Bradby should be ashamed of himself. I suspect he hasn't recovered since that interview since I haven't seen him since! I'm hoping her sister Samantha can get her into court. Would be a treat to see her answer questions under oath!
Harry talks a lot about leaks, but actually gives few concrete examples where it happened and who was responsible thus just leaving a general tarnish on everyone without anyone being able to hold him to account
Talking about leaks? After his book, document drama, interviews etc ...Treacherous couple. Just get involved properly with the Invictus games athletes with severe disabilities and their hardships....how dare they not count their blessings
I despise people who fling unfounded accusations at others, for their own benefit, but refuse to provide specifics. Cowards with absolutely no good character. The duo in CA will certainly be the cause of their own downfall.
You mentioned the "palace leaks" that Harry refers to and gave the example of a leak which came from a member of Camilla's staff. Even though the staff member admitted to inadvertently leaking the information (and resigning for it) Harry actually wrote about this episode in his memoir and blamed it squarely on Camilla. He jumps to conclusions and doesn't bother with the facts.
No, but like the number of chess pieces he killed in Afghanistan he had a purpose in doing so. The kill number was to insure his IPP security approval. The Camilla story was to build a story that Camilla’s goal was to become Queen by hook or by crook. He did it to prevent her from becoming Queen. None of his machinations have come to fruition other than damaging his family’s reputation. Slowly people are wising up and discounting H&M’s stories.
@@erinobrien8793 The RF are higher in the popularity stakes because of the Markle attacks. The majority of people who matter feel protective and have empathy for the appalling betrayal by Harry and his narcissistic wife.
That comment in the African interview by H., "I'm not gonna play the same game that killed my mum!" did it for me. What the hell was he talking about? The dead mummy card played again by a grown man. Total manipulation.
I wonder if Harry was told the truth, at the time, about how his mother’s death occurred? Does Harry not trust the Palace security because, like Dianna, he thinks they spied? Dianna shunned official security, that’s why she was in a car driven by a drunk and not wearing a seatbelt. It is excruciatingly tragic. But she didn’t die because paparazzi caused the accident. Granted Harry was a little boy at the time, who knows how he interpreted it all. But he’s a grown man, he should be aware of all the facts. Markle situation has interested me because she reminds me so much of a family member. They have a genius for manipulation, it’s uncanny. The only defense is to stay clear. Thanks for the sight, it’s the best, IMO.
@@jacky3580 My point exactly! She's been dead 25 years, but he's still triangulating with pity me I'm such a victim, and so's my wife. "Life of Brian," lol
This infuriates me more and more at how totally unrealistic, self centred self absorbed poor me ,,she really is ,,I had 3 children under 5 ,,no nanny no grandma as my mum abandoned us as a child , I was married but we both worked ,,and I had to work nights and weekends until they were older ,,so to see somebody who had everything ON A PLATE Makes me want to take that plate and smash it , they have NO IDEA about the real world it makes my blood boil 😡😡😡😤, but I do love listening to you ,discuss things , it really is therapeutic to me ❤
We were the same 3 children under 5, his parents both dead, my mother and father a messy breakup, just after we were married, we were trying to get ahead along with all our siblings, a bit of support from husband's siblings, but none from my side who were doing the blame game.
Agree. I had twins and a 2 year old. I was miserable. No one asked me if I was okay. I wasn't and there's nothing you can do. There's no "help' to have your kids go to. She has and had a lot of help. I hate to say this but Screw her and her"PAIN "! Miscarriage is not caused by stress or no babies would ever be born.
would have been nice to see MM be humbled wouldn't it? She tried to be like Diana, but even Diana found working with the underprivileged to be a humbling experience. surprised Harry can't string it all together to be honest. MM is no Diana.
As an African (Kenyan) I was so shocked by the South Africa interview and that was when I officially disliked Harry and Meghan. Over the years, I’ve gone to many children’s homes, visited with struggling and sick families in my country and those visits always leave you with a sense of perspective. You realise just how blessed you are and how trivial some of our problems are, although real to us, you appreciate that things could be so much worse. Harry and Meghan had cars flown across continents for their comfort and security and they saw women struggling to feed and clothe their children, she visit a memorial of a young women who lost her life and they heard about the epidemic young women are facing in South Africa with violence and DV. So to hear, see and speak to some of these people then turn around and give a teary eyed interview about NOT MANY people asking if she was ok and say it’s not enough for to just ‘survive’ but one has to thrive, I was stunned. What shocked me even more was the outpouring of sympathy for them by the world, literal royals had hijacked an official visit meant to highlight charities and important causes for underprivileged people and made it about their problems and instead of being called out on it, she became the victim of that whole visit. I still struggle to wrap my head around it.
Superb comment, exactly how I felt although I was also exceptionally angry. She was there to represent my Queen and Country and she betrayed both, that I will never forgive !!!!!
The look on Tom Brady’s face was classic when Harry made the denial. He was so stunned by Harry’s answer, as were the audience. It just reinforced that Harry & Meghan believe we are all so stupid.
Tom was pathetic. I wish he had 3:51 had the courage/integrity to challenge Harry. So what if he walked out? AIR IT! Let everyone see that Harry couldn’t take the heat… that he’s a petulant wuss. Surely SOMEONE has the journalistic integrity to call them out! Let’s see how they respond to UNSCRIPTED questions…
I felt Tom was too stunned and confused by what Harry said and the coldness of his almost tight lipped reply to form a question challenging Harry.Tom doesn't seem to be a quick thinker so maybe it took a while after the interview to get his head around that level of public gaslighting .Took me awhile 😂
Absolutely right, Tom could have stopped him in his tracks and made him look the fool he is, he was great friends with William and Catherine, I think he’s well and truly sabotaged that one, big mistake!
I came in time for last few minutes, dang it! Will have a listen again but I did hear you say Tom Bradby looked like he'd realised he had backed the wrong horse. I think you're right. He looked a bit dumbfounded to me, as if he couldn't believe his own ears. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Hopefully the Duke of Hazard and his side kick will get the message and go quietly into retirement. Always love your bright and cheerful chats. Goodnight.
Unfortunately I don't believe she miscarried. If I remember rightly a lot was being said on the topic of miscarriage in the media and she just jumped on the bandwagon. I don't believe there is any level that either will stoop to further their own cause and make money. Their hypocrisy is astounding and they should be thoroughly ashamed of how they have behaved towards both of their families. I love your channel by the way!
A story with 2 different versions - she was alone inside the house with Archie (in the article) OR they were just moving into their Montecito home with a friend as witness (in Netflix drama) - PLUS a disjointed followup story of an unlikely private burial (in Waaagh, I mean Spare) would be patently false.
My problem with the miscarriage story is the timelines. Daughter born June 2021. She needed to have been pregnant in September 2020. She talked about her miscarriage in November 2020 and said she picked up 18 months old Archie. Archie born may 2019 would indeed have been 18 months by November 2020. So when did she miscarry and how many months in, especially since they claim to have buried the dead child under some tree. Need some months of pregnancy to have a Fetus to bury. And also needed time for some healing before getting pregnant again. Like I said, the timelines don't add up for me
She never had a miscarriage for ANY kid. She's unable to have children. Archie and Lilibet are surrogates. That's why we never see them or if we do they're different looking!
Often times when someone accuses you of something it’s because it’s a plausible action to them. I’ve been shocked in the past to have been accused of an action that was along the lines of ‘but why would I do that?! ‘. I was genuinely surprised. It turns out the person accusing me regularly did what she was accusing me of. So to her it was likely that I was as well. This was a huge lesson to me. If someone accuses you just take a moment to consider if they are revealing what they are capable of in that situation.
Your perspective is so refreshing - balanced, calm and straight forward, the snippets well researched. Yes, the look of shock on Tom Bradby's face at the interview was undeniable, so too the complete u-turn denial from Harry, his expression of sneering scorn for the Press. Having wealth, privilege and every possible advantage for an independent life of service was what they wanted, and in the beginning, we truly believed them. The saddest part - their potential to do so much good all lost to ego, vanity, greed, the unending chase for the A-lister fame. Aida, Singapore.
Yes, it's very sad to see two highly privileged people who have such arrogance and hatred - when they could be doing so much good in the world. But unfortunately you need a balanced personality for that - and these two are about as self centred, and unbalanced as you could ever get.
I did too especially the big doe eyes gazing wide eyed with a hint of tears. She did the same during the Ophra interview. Must be something they taught in her drama lessons along with suitable make up
You are spot on. I actually felt rather sorry for Tom Bradbury when the realisation hit him. He realised he’d been set up good and proper and had foolishly alienated himself from the future King of England for the Ginger Whinger. Oh dear Tom what have you done !
Any decent journalist would never interview either of them it's not a real interview if you can only ask questions picked by them a farce actually I don't care for Prince Andrew but in the interview he did he was asked real questions not ones he had picked it was a bit of a car crash interview on his part but at least he answered real questions asked by the interviewer wether he told the truth I don't know but at least he answered questions
Agree completely with the interviewers getting nervous. Tom Bradby looked so uncomfortable, speechless, and yes, scared, when Harry denied the racism claims - not to mention the smirk on his face (I seriously would want to smack him)! Harry knew that question was coming and then gaslighted Tom - and the viewers. Tom has known Harry for a long time and I doubt he'll interview him again. Meghan prepares for everything, she's been doing this a long time. In the Netflix series they addressed any and all claims and then put a spin on it. Even going as far to imply that Meghan knew nothing about him or the RF because an interviewer gave her a quiz on the UK and she didn't get the answers correctly. Great analysis!
Yes, I had the same feeling that something of a realisation swept across Tom Bradby's face. And he did hold back to keep Harry there. I wonder though, if interviewers stop holding back and take the risk of the interviewee to walk out, wouldn't it open the door for more people to push back on Harry? Wouldn't that close the door for people like Harry and Meghan to abuse the media for spreading "their" truth? I feel the fear from interviewers is gotten out of hand. Not just with Meghan and Harry, but with many public figures.
I believe that may be because the interviewers are simply employees of the TV companies who are paying them to ensure the interview will be full of bombs that will get more viewers - that is, revenue - to tune in to their channels.
Tom Bradby was friends with both brothers, so worth remembering he is a PERSONAL FRIEND. All interviews are pre-scripted and who has control of the final cut? is anyone's guess. Hardly pragmatic & proactive interviews. But even Bradby was wrong footed by SPARES reply! I think SPARE got the reply wrong & then had to go with it. ''My wife didn't say that''! actually she didn't - SHE IMPLIED IT - and he was using weasel words that BACKFIRED, leaving himself & Bradby - speechless. Harry's plagiarised words ''silence is betrayal'' indeed they are both grandparents went to their graves with their behaviour undoing all their lifetimes work.
Yes, I thought TB didn’t pursue the racism response because he thought Harry would blow up, and probably insult him. Friendship be dammed! The impression I got from that interview was that Harry believed he was doing Tom a favour.He was patronising and arrogant
I have one question. Why didn’t Harry who had access to therapy didn’t get his wife access to therapy. He goes on and on about mental health but he couldn’t get his wife a therapist to help her in her emotional low key moments?
Thank you as a Brit I really appreciate your commentary and views. No over the top analysis and drama. Always insightful and thoughtfully put together videos.
The miscarriage story of which there have been 3 versions…..if someone suffers something so tragic there is only one version, it doesn’t need to be embellished or dramatised.
I detected a flash of concern on Harry's face when Tom Bradby brought up the accusation of racism. Harry replied that it was the British media who accused the royal family, then asked "did Meghan say.....". I think he was wondering ' what on earth has she said now?'
But Bradby did have the goods - he was accurate with quoting MM's words. Harry had to lie through his teeth to wiggle out of that one, and it showed. He also used his arrogance. Nobody believed him.
Tom was close to both brothers. I remember him saying, after the S Africa interview that he had been genuinely concerned because Harry seemed different on that tour ( unfriendly and hostile to the royal reporters and photographers). William cut ties with Tom immediately after but I think it was the moment of denial in the second interview that Tom finally realised he’d been played.
The Remembrance Day photo was a real shock to me. Clearly manipulative, I remarked to my son (who is in PR), that their PR company obviously did not understand the Brits. That photo was appalling and all involved should be ashamed of themselves. However, there were many more of a similar nature to come! Thank you for your very astute analysis of the H&M adventures!
Agreed. And the way m framed the racism claims was so American view of racism. Britain is racist as well. Like all countries but she was spinning that story to appeal to Americans. I'm NOT saying the family was racist to her AT ALL. just...unaware and as another commenter Said so unworldly. I think in waaagh harry Saud the queen invited m over to talk about voting and the elections in America. M decided against that and talked about filming suits in Canada. Noooo the queen was head of the commonwealth and has met many presudents she wanted to go deep on American politics with an America family member. If she was a normal person she would have perhaps been daunted due to her lack of knowledge. But no just patronisingly talks about making TV. In Canada. To.the.QUEEN.
You are SO right about Meghan getting into character! I've noticed that, when she's making a point, or getting ready to tell a lie, she goes all actressy. One example was when she told Oprah about the royals' so-called remark about her baby's skin colour (ooee look at me, I'm so bitterly hurt, very nearly in tears). Another one was when she mimed that cruel curtsey. There are more...
I holidayed in The Gambia once, the people were lovely but although intellectually I understood poverty in the third world nothing prepared me for the reality and the struggle for individuals to maintain an existence. It was truly shocking and I was torn between respect and pity for the people and the discomfort I felt at what I perceived as tourist "porn". Markle was disgusting in that interview. Self indulgent with her narcissism clearly on show. She is highly manipulative but has no true emotional intelligence.
You really hit the nail on the head, as we say in the States. I agree with you that S. Africa was not the place to take jabs & ask for sympathy. When people are trying to survive, it is a little disturbing that they are complaining about Frogmore Cottage not being big enough. I'm sure that lots of homeless families would be happy to live there. It just makes me sick. M's fragility? She is about as fragile as a semitruck. I loved your narrative! Keep it up! ✌️❤️🥺 from 🇺🇲
Can you imagine her NOT telling people how she felt, what she wanted, or needed? She who was never backward in coming forward. Her staff could corroborate that she made her feelings known regardless of how she came across. So, if she wasn't saying that she wasn't OK everyone could rightly conclude that she WAS OK.
I think she has such a knack of putting 'word salads' in everywhere, you find it really difficult to actually get an answer from her on anything. In speeches, in writing, she just goes on and on and you're like 'Get to the point' , maybe she will make a great politician after all (sadly)
Very well perceived re M & H doing interviews. Tom Bradby was a family friend and went to both William and Harry’s weddings as a guest not reporter, his wife is a jewellery designer and has collaborated with Catherine in the past. For some unfathomable reason despite normally being known as an astute and well respected reporter he fell for H & M’s tales of woe. Sadly this has cost him his friendship with William & Catherine and I think now Bradby sees H & M for the duplicitous manipulators they are particularly when H backtracked on the racism claim - his face was a picture - the absolute realisation that he had been taken for a fool by H was written all over his face, poor guy.
I am embarrassed to say now that I believed her back when I saw that snippet of the documentary. She was really good at looking so young and innocent there! Makes me sick to my stomach now that I know more. Thank you for sharing! I def need to watch her whole doc now! Another excellent, well thought out video. Thank you!!!
I think that is a very balanced and mature view you have taken, and extremely refreshing to acknowledge that you were taken in.....its her stock in trade, I admire your honesty .
You nailed it, very good observations, they are actually extremely manipulative and savvy, I agree with you about Tom Badbury having a moment of realisation that … omg I have been duped. He definitely was wrong about Harry and as an intelligent man is not a good judge of character. We have seen it since the beginning.
My elderly mum has just read Spare. There was a copy in the resident's lounge at their sheltered housing. She was incredulous! And she absolutely loves your analytical videos 😀. ❤️ from 🇬🇧 x
I agree with you on the Tom Brady moment. In my opinion he looked shocked and unsure of the best way to handle Harry’s accusations/denial. I am in the US and most of my friends feel like I do, that Harry is the ultimate man child or they just don’t care about them. Loving your videos. You have such a pleasant voice and a way with words. Would love to have you in my book club!
My response to young people coming into my office and complaining about other people was..."Well, first, we're all just trying to get to the end of the day." Reminding them that everyone has imperfections, struggles, and bad days...then I really listened to the complaint.
I agree with you on the fact that Harry and Meghan play up to the interviewers. I also felt that Tom Bradby not only was worried that Harry might get up and leave the interview, but that Harry was angry, which you could see on his face, and that he could possibly get up and strike him. And yes, I’m sure he feels he bet on the wrong horse!!!
A gruelling work schedule?😅 The statistics showed that during her 10 minutes as a working royal she only managed to do 72 engagements or something like that and was basically at the bottom of the list as the laziest senior royal! But I guess if you're used to 1 hour a week schedule then anything more than that is gruelling. What a pathetic joke. Then she writes the op-ed plagiarizing a miscarriage story from another woman to counter the criticism she received from the SA ITV documentary, that's the only reason she conducted the fake story of a myth carriage. What kind of person does that? No shame, no empathy. It's appalling in my humble opinion.
One question if Meg allegedly had a miscarriage how come nobody knew about it until that article was published. Imo she would have announced it to the world before then like she did at the Princess of yorks wedding with Archie. How cruel to be over shadowed onyour wedding day
I would have pushed back and filmed what happened next. Let Harry loose his temper and have a fit and air it for all to see the real man he has become!
I am so glad I found you in my meanderings through RUclips. It is fun to hear your evidence-based analysis and insightful observations of the Remarkable Harkles. They are a never-ending story that has taken us on an interesting chain of emotions. For me, it went from disbelief to disappointment, to anxiety for the RF, to hot anger, and now it is amusement just watching them maneuver as the RF, ever so deftly, controls the relationship with the subtleness of a dressage rider
Really good insights here. I think it gets to the reality of her being a so-so actress, and Harry just too narcissistic to pull off the kind of empathy that might make them more relatable. As it is, they are pretty transparent and their pettiness and entitlement obvious. I'm 'of an age' where I recall many of the events that Harry was a child for - and the lies are stunningly apparent. Many of the actual royal reporters have walked through how they do their work, and Harry's paranoia about them is simply untrue. And like all these kind of people - they are actually the ones doing that which they accuse others of. And wouldn't dream of continuing an interview that wasn't going to serve their narrative. They don't want to avoid the media - they want to control them.
Tom Bradbury reacted with shock and confusion at Harry’s response to the racism question. At the time I thought he backed down because he thought Harry’s mental health was unstable and that’s why he didn’t push him anymore. Remember he’d. Been friends with both Princes for years, from what I understand. He probably thought he’d become unhinged and to challenge him, well who knows what he might have done?!!
The look on Tom Bradbury face was brilliant I thought he looked as he was going to fall of the chair plus there was almost a fear this interview is going belly up it took a few seconds to get himself together and be able to continue it must have felt like a life time The arrogance of Harry and twisted smirk as if saying I have got him now At that moment I really disliked Harry he really showed what he’s made of
Up until the SA doco, I had some sympathy for MM, but the ‘nobody asked me if I am ok’ in a country where 5 minutes ago she was dancing with the poorest people, was the moment I saw through her.
I thought he looked stunned when Prince Pothead walked back the racism claim against the RF. Thank you for your videos!!! Love them! Very enlightening!
Absolutely fascinating analysis once again! Tom Bradby did look utterly confounded in that moment when Harry gaslighted him, didn’t he? 😵💫 I’m sure it will be used to teach about gaslighting in the future. Love this channel! ❤
Your analysis is spot on. I enjoy watching you because, as much as I totally dislike both H&M, I do appreciate reasoned commentary rather than just vitriol. That’s boring eventually. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for such a great recount of the Bradbury interview reaction and the description of M's 'poor me' pattern. I too believe Tom was completely shocked at H's denial re the racism claim and worried he would walk out. I really appreciate hearing of your research in order to truthfully relate the content.
As perceptive and well researched as always Shauna. A pleasure to watch. For me the pin dropped for Tom Bradby with that long drawn out "right". His realisation that he was dealing with a mendacious and twisted individual and that he'd backed the wrong brother, shooting himself in the foot will probably haunt Tom Bradby for years to come.
The look on Tom's face was pure disbelief that Harry could deny something so obviously said in public. He may have expected an argument about how or when it was said, but not to have it denied. They have a pattern, one of not taking any responsibility for ANYTHING that goes wrong.
Excellent talk. Very clever to note the pattern of 'set up the pain - lay the blame'. You are finding aspects of the Sussex's behaviour that most other commentators miss. I very much appreciate that you support your theories with credible evidence such as interviews and books and articles by reputable authors rather than resorting to unprovable rumours and tabloid fantasies.
Excellent work!!
I second it. There are some channels that discuss H and M that just roll with gossip or any idea that comes into their mind as fact. it's actually helpful to meghan that they do this, as they can be easily discredited as OTT haters using evidence or lack thereof. The main difference in this channel of Shauna's and other channels like the one I described is the iQ of the presenter.
I agree 💯
Reputable? 😅😅
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Tom Bradby could have asked them why they accepted that Kennedy award for “exposing racism in the royal family”.
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Yes a real journalist would have!
Thzt is why i think TB is not very good.
@Thomas Sathyaseelan he's friends with PH, that's why.
Harry let Meghan's blatant racism accusation stand for 2 years. The queen and her husband went to their graves with this accusation hanging around their necks. Harry accepted an award for standing up to racism in his own family. Then Harry tries to walk back on the accusation. Only a paranoid and delusional mind like Harry's can think this is fair and reasonable behaviour.
"They set up the pain then lay the blame' - spot on! Typical behavior of the narcissist! As a South African, I was gobsmacked at their victimhood using my country as a backdrop - all on the taxpayer's dime mind you!
I didn’t realise you were in South Africa! Yes I understand your feelings on that one!
@@thevintageread I'm a South African currently based in Vietnam. Hence the occassional 'Good Morning from Vietnam' quip! Thanks for your breakdown. It's always a joy to hear your level-headed perspectives.
Yes, the South African interview was really shocking, but not as H&M intended. Rich people feeling sorry for themselves, and no sense whatever for where they were, not in the rich parts, but the most vulnerable ones. I was disgusted.
🇿🇦 Agreed
Imagine the ungrateful Meghan calling such a lavish residence in South African a Housing Unit. Like she had ever lived in such a place before meeting Harry😄😄😄 the audacity asking if your ok, when you live with all the good things life can offer. So sad a person
I loved the look on Tom's face when Harry made the claim about the British press. That was when Tom realised he was dealing with a crazy liar.
He nearly fell off his chair 🤣
And his brain was paralysed- I don’t think he could believe what he’d heard ! 🫣🇬🇧
He’d suddenly realised that he’d destroyed his career 😮
Truly gaslit.
He just realized he had destroyed any relationship with Prince William.
I loved your observation that Meghan was "getting into character" before announcing, "No one asked how I'm doing," as if she were a poor orphan. The level of self-centeredness to say that in a place where there really are so many poor orphans is astounding.
Yes, that was a fascinating piece of info!!
An hour beforehand she'd been at a Centre for Black women who'd been victims of domestic violence and sexual abuse. One hour later she's whining about how hard it is to be a Princess 😮
This was the exact moment I started to dislike her, up to then I had been a fan and had high hopes of her.
To me Tom Bradby reacted to Harry's "no we never called my family racist" line with the same shock and confusion that anyone does when someone tells them an outrageous and unexpected lie. He really didn't think Harry would backtrack like that, particularly when its this very issue that has probably caused a large amount of the rift between them and the Royal Family. I agree that Tom didn't want to push Harry further on the topic because of the risk of him walking out of the interview, but think he was also having the dawning realisation that he was interviewing a man who has taken total leave of reality, responsibility and consequence. As they've been friends for a while this must have felt very sad for Tom, perhaps enough so that he was on autopilot the rest of the interview.
Harry is paranoid and delusional. He blames everyone else for his problems except the real culprits - his toxic wife and his own stupidity. Diana would be shocked at how he has profited from attacking his own brother.
It’s easy to lie, if there is no proof. But we have recorded evidence of their lies. You can tell H&M are accomplished liars(despite their poor memories of what they said), because of the words they use, which allows them to back pedal their stories. But we are no longer tricked by their deceptions.
I don’t feel bad for Tom Bradbry. He needed to ask the tough questions & let Harry walk if that was his choice!
@@donnajarvis9542 I don't feel bad for him either. He didn't hesitate to interview them in South Africa and accepted their stories unquestioningly. He had chosen his side between William and Henry and he chose badly. He needs to experience the consequences of his poor choices, just like Henry does.
Yes, I think he must have felt shocked, betrayed, gaslighted, disappointed and the realisation how delusional his so called friend Harry had become.
When Harry shook his head 'no' in response to the racism statement, that was it for me. Those two had the whole world thinking and believing that the RF are racists. Even the sugars were angry at him.
Harry denying what he said, having never believed him showed me that my assessment when Harry and Meghan had that interview with Oprah Winfrey, was correct what total bullshit.
The smug look when he said it made me so angry 😡
Strongly implying something is the same thing. They did accuse the Royal family of racism without directly using that word.
I was fuming. His Grandmother went to her grave thinking the world thought her family were racists 😢 They did that, they and them alone!
@@pinkthistle5713 Me too.I wanted to wipe that smug smile off his face with a wet haddock! Oprah asked him if racism was the reason they left the RF. He said it was partly the reason. Does he have a memory problem, or is he just an outright liar?
Tom Bradby's face was priceless when Harry denied that he and MEgain said the RF were "racists." 😂
As a Brit I interpreted Tom's reaction as 'Mate you really are an imbecile' and for the rest of the interview Tom was on auto pilot looking as if he was the one who wanted to flee. A bit of context H and Tom have been very good friends for years so it seemed to me that the scales fell from Tom's eyes
Yup…that was the moment when Bradby realised he’d backed the wrong brother & the Harry he knew…has gone batshit crazy!
No excuse for not questioning Harry's answers.
Wait for Tom's book.... after the scales are off!
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Until that moment, I think Tom has totally believed their narrative. He looked completely shocked, and horrified when Harry made that outrageous claim.
Tom Bradby's facial expression when Harry denied that they never claimed the RF were racists, it was priceless. I hadn't watched the whole SA piece, but I did notice her look of excitement/delight when she was standing with Harry, prior to the nobody asked interview, and it certainly didn't look like she was struggling. They both need to walk in the steps of those who are struggling. I'd like to see the UK journalist Nana Akua interview them, but they'd probably have to be tied to their chairs, or else they'd run! Thank you again for a telling piece of work, thoroughly enjoyable.
Yes she worked on being "upset" just before the camera rolled!
Brilliant idea! I’d buy tickets to see that.
Oh yes, please bring in the wonderful Nana Akua to interview the Harkles. She would have no problem confronting them when they lie and deny allegations.
Nana is awesome
All I could think was: she's squandering airtime that should be used to help people in need.
A few years ago I did a volunteer program in South Africa, one of the days we went to visit a school and on the way we drove past a bunch of basically tin sheds and the coordinator told us that's where the children live with their families. It definitely put things into perspective, so I just can't fathom how MM could be full of self pity while she was over there.
A professional opinion!
‘MALIGNANT narcissist’ | Dr Carole Lieberman SLAMS ‘dangerous’ Meghan Markle. (RUclips.)
Other people are of no real concern to her. She lacks the capacity to feel compassion.
I’m also American. I can’t stand H & MM either. They infuriate me too. I wish they’d leave the US.
@@cameliawilks2049 Do NOT send them back, please.
She was setting the stage even then
From one Aussie to another... I 🎉love your narrative... very Aussie.... straight to the point. It is so refreshing to hear commentary that is honest and not airy fairy.
Thank you 😊💗
Agree, a grounded perspective
This New Zealander appreciates that too, a commentator who can be trusted for honesty, a breath of fresh air with all the rubbish out there!
As a Brit I very much appreciate it too, particularly the lack of hysteria and exaggeration about them 'bringing down the Monarchy' that so many of our American cousins indulge in - whilst having no idea how the Constitutional Monarchy actually works.
@@OdeInWessex completely agree 👍
Thank you for spotting patterns and illustrating their long game. I felt Tom Bradby was honestly shocked at the underlying viciousness of Harry's response. It probably was the first time Harry had dropped his mask in front of Tom. It seemed like you could see Tom suddenly putting all the pieces together and realizing he had been taken for a very long ride and used. I think Tom had felt he had a real mutual connection with Harry.
Tom Bradby deserves to be frozen out by William. He did back the wrong horse. Now he has no access to the Palace.
The look on Tom Bradby’s face when H said it was the British press that called his family racist, not MM, was priceless. Tom’s face to H’s remark looked like - Are you kidding me? What game are you playing with me? Tom’s eyes seemed to open very wide when H spoke about this claim on racism. H and MM know how to play a game when being interviewed. And when H talks about the Royal Family leaking and planting stories, I want to tell H to look in the mirror!
Yeah, nobody better at planting stories than MM & H and Omid Scobie and the Sugars!
Quite honestly I feel it serves Tom Bradby right when Harry denies he or MM said that. He lapped up the SA interview.
Yes BUT it was disgusting that Tom asked the twit about racism in the Royal family in the first place,he clearly was hoping H would give him some juicy hints. TOM deserves a kick in the pants.
@@Diamondmine212 completely agree. Served him right for thinking he could trust them
That was the moment she lost me. I couldn't believe she could dance in the townships with the most deprived women one day, and then give that little survive/thrive speech the next. Nearly everybody in South Africa is just surviving, and could only dream of achieving her wealth and privilege, but she chose that moment to say it wasn't enough for her.
Very insightful analysis. I think you're really onto something with them lovebombing their interviewers.
Until they no longer need them then it’s as if they’d never met
@@charliesmith_ Indeed, never ending list as she adds people on it every day...
@@marybalding1435 If they gave everything they had, now they're unworthy of being in their Majesties' company....
@@charliesmith_ That's simply amazing, and IT IS NOT a coincidence! I'm looking forward to watching your podcast when you had have done all the research and put it in comprehensible bits for us to enjoy... GOOD LUCK, may the Force be with you and support you in this huge task! Blessings!
@@charliesmith_ Just one question, are these newspapers from 2010 or 2020?
I saw a previous message that said "2010", but now has disappeared from here...
I think the best bit of the Tom Bradby interview was his incredulity when H denied any racism. It was gold. Nobody could believe Hs answer and Tom showed that in his face. And, yes, H was so angry that he’d been asked that question (the audacity of it) I thought if Tom had pushed it any further H would have walked out, and possibly laid one on him as he left.
Both H&M are so convinced by their own publicity and entitlement they feel they have every right to avoid any questions they don’t like. They feel they can make up anything (like the ‘fire’ in As room in SA) and make accusations against anybody who they think has wronged them.
It’s this behaviour that makes them so disliked and I cannot understand those who support them, unless it’s because of their own agendas
That look on Tom Bradby’s face when he denied it was Meghan but the press was the same look everyone in the world had simultaneously.
But all h and me me me's interviews are pre arranged guestions... they never are surprised even oprah....all scripted, an act from start to finish.
Only shock, Mariah Carey saying me me was a diva.
As a journalist he should have questioned it. A weak interview.
It’s great, it showed H for the contemptible little twonk he really is, to lie like that. If he was caught off guard, then I applaud it, more like that please!
He should have pushed him, make him show his true face live and then the world would see the full scale of their duplicity and fakeness.
I remember Diana’s interview vividly. Diana says that” no one ever asks if I’m alright”. As usual there’s never anything original from her. Diana even threw herself down stairs, when pregnant with Harry so, I’m sure that’s where she got the ‘suicide’ claim from as well. She obviously had studied Diana, very well !
Also there is a story that Diana helped a good friend after her miscarriage at home and they buried the remains in Kensington Palace gardens I think, it was certainly one of the Royal residences. Whether that story really is true I don’t know, but it’s in one of the books written about Diana
Diana threw herself down the stairs while she was pregnant with prince william not Harry.
@@gilliantovey1014 I remember that story, I think it was in the second Paul Burrell book.
Diana was pregnant with William when she threw herself down the stairs. Thank god William wasn’t hurt in utero
@@gilliantovey1014 and copied by H in that book Spare Me when the wife had an alleged miscarriage.
A quick reminder: Malignant narcissists don't do empathy. Great video. Thank you!
No narcissist does empathy
What stuck out to me from the first Bradby interview is that Meghan doesn't actually say that NOBODY has asked if she's okay - she says that "not many people" have asked if she's okay. So then, a nonzero number of people have asked? Just not many? Not enough? How many is enough?
The comment “It is not enough to just survive, you have to thrive” came from Maya Angelou! I heard Maya use it in one of her interviews and immediately realized when Meghan quoted it!
I see most people complaining that the interviewers never pushed Harry too much, and I agree. But wether or not it was on purpose, I feel like that was the best thing they could have done, because the whole drama revolves around M and H not being allowed to tell their side of things. Then let them speak, let them say everything they want, all of it, so that we really get a full picture of their delusion. If they had been challenged a lot on the interviews, they would still be going around saying they were being silenced and manipulated by the media. LET THEM SAY EVERYTHING THEY WANT, cause now we see, they said everything and now we can see who they are from their own mouths.
You are exceptionally privileged when you have food, housing, family, education, international travel, and have the time to sit back and ponder, is that all there is
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Absolutely 💯 % correct! especially the surviving/thriving bit. It incenses me when entitled rich people cry poor me about how hard life is, so disgusting 🤦🏼♀️🤨.
It was one of those trite fridge magnet-type sayings that she comes out with, and it's nonsense. The word "survive" is one that can be read in several different ways. She was tone deaf to the meaning it carried in the environment that she was in. She always is because she cannot lift her focus from herself, nor has she the ability to self-reflect and correct her course.
In the sense that she meant it, though - well, we all survive, but few of us actually 'thrive', because the word implies a perfect or near-perfect life. The real world isn't like that unless you're spoilt silly.
Haha, yeah, considering their status, they are actually overly surviving and thriving: Mansion, cars, expensive clothes, 2 children, dinner at gourmand/ gourmet restaurants etc.
That really hit me hard..I’d just had a young adult child die..and I thought all I do is survive and that’s a struggle ..so many people have issues in life that thriving is not an option. She is tone deaf
Not once have either of them been pushed hard enough in any interview. The media walk around on eggshells with these two grifters. I did notice Harry was already in a mood and seemed very angry in that second interview.
That's because the interviewer is tied up before the interview, so they have to keep to the script provided. They would refuse an interview without that assurance or just get up and walk out
VERY interesting video! I also felt Tom Bradby had a tinge of regret. He realized he'd 'been played' as all the Harkle victims eventually realize. They are a vile duo and I thank you for bringing both a literary analysis and some psychological insight into your narrative. Your hard work is very much appreciated!!
I also noticed the manipulation of the 'Are you OK?' in her op-ed. She seems incredibly manipulative in my opinion. So many 'threats' in the Cut interview as well. Tom Bradby should be ashamed of himself. I suspect he hasn't recovered since that interview since I haven't seen him since! I'm hoping her sister Samantha can get her into court. Would be a treat to see her answer questions under oath!
TWO THINGS: #1 feel sorry that Bradby had to put up with Haz's B.S. #2 Samantha will grill Megsy-baby good then she'll beat her!
Tom Brady must realise now he backed the wrong couple! The duo are disgusting!
Harry talks a lot about leaks, but actually gives few concrete examples where it happened and who was responsible thus just leaving a general tarnish on everyone without anyone being able to hold him to account
Yes indeed!
Talking about leaks? After his book, document drama, interviews etc ...Treacherous couple. Just get involved properly with the Invictus games athletes with severe disabilities and their hardships....how dare they not count their blessings
@@thevintageread Yes. He has learned the art of "here say" from his master.
I despise people who fling unfounded accusations at others, for their own benefit, but refuse to provide specifics. Cowards with absolutely no good character. The duo in CA will certainly be the cause of their own downfall.
YES...Needy & Greedy are the king & queen of 'non-source' comments....WHY the press doesn't constantly hound them for proof is beyond me
These two will never face an interviewer who will ask them the awkward questions or call out their lies.
You mentioned the "palace leaks" that Harry refers to and gave the example of a leak which came from a member of Camilla's staff. Even though the staff member admitted to inadvertently leaking the information (and resigning for it) Harry actually wrote about this episode in his memoir and blamed it squarely on Camilla. He jumps to conclusions and doesn't bother with the facts.
No, but like the number of chess pieces he killed in Afghanistan he had a purpose in doing so. The kill number was to insure his IPP security approval. The Camilla story was to build a story that Camilla’s goal was to become Queen by hook or by crook. He did it to prevent her from becoming Queen. None of his machinations have come to fruition other than damaging his family’s reputation. Slowly people are wising up and discounting H&M’s stories.
@@erinobrien8793 The RF are higher in the popularity stakes because of the Markle attacks. The majority of people who matter feel protective and have empathy for the appalling betrayal by Harry and his narcissistic wife.
That comment in the African interview by H., "I'm not gonna play the same game that killed my mum!" did it for me. What the hell was he talking about? The dead mummy card played again by a grown man. Total manipulation.
I wonder if Harry was told the truth, at the time, about how his mother’s death occurred? Does Harry not trust the Palace security because, like Dianna, he thinks they spied? Dianna shunned official security, that’s why she was in a car driven by a drunk and not wearing a seatbelt.
It is excruciatingly tragic. But she didn’t die because paparazzi caused the accident.
Granted Harry was a little boy at the time, who knows how he interpreted it all. But he’s a grown man, he should be aware of all the facts.
Markle situation has interested me because she reminds me so much of a family member. They have a genius for manipulation, it’s uncanny. The only defense is to stay clear.
Thanks for the sight, it’s the best, IMO.
@@jacky3580 My point exactly! She's been dead 25 years, but he's still triangulating with pity me I'm such a victim, and so's my wife. "Life of Brian," lol
The irony being that he's done nothing but play that same game ever since hooking up with his lovely wife.
This infuriates me more and more at how totally unrealistic, self centred self absorbed poor me ,,she really is ,,I had 3 children under 5 ,,no nanny no grandma as my mum abandoned us as a child , I was married but we both worked ,,and I had to work nights and weekends until they were older ,,so to see somebody who had everything ON A PLATE Makes me want to take that plate and smash it , they have NO IDEA about the real world it makes my blood boil 😡😡😡😤, but I do love listening to you ,discuss things , it really is therapeutic to me ❤
I don’t think you are alone with those feelings 💗
We were the same 3 children under 5, his parents both dead, my mother and father a messy breakup, just after we were married, we were trying to get ahead along with all our siblings, a bit of support from husband's siblings, but none from my side who were doing the blame game.
Agree. I had twins and a 2 year old. I was miserable. No one asked me if I was okay. I wasn't and there's nothing you can do. There's no "help' to have your kids go to. She has and had a lot of help. I hate to say this but Screw her and her"PAIN "! Miscarriage is not caused by stress or no babies would ever be born.
I went to Africa with a group and volunteered to help with eye clinics. The daily struggle that people had to feed their families was very humbling.
would have been nice to see MM be humbled wouldn't it? She tried to be like Diana, but even Diana found working with the underprivileged to be a humbling experience. surprised Harry can't string it all together to be honest. MM is no Diana.
I have worked in that scene too. But the starvation of children didn't seem to sluw the birth rate.
As an African (Kenyan) I was so shocked by the South Africa interview and that was when I officially disliked Harry and Meghan.
Over the years, I’ve gone to many children’s homes, visited with struggling and sick families in my country and those visits always leave you with a sense of perspective. You realise just how blessed you are and how trivial some of our problems are, although real to us, you appreciate that things could be so much worse.
Harry and Meghan had cars flown across continents for their comfort and security and they saw women struggling to feed and clothe their children, she visit a memorial of a young women who lost her life and they heard about the epidemic young women are facing in South Africa with violence and DV.
So to hear, see and speak to some of these people then turn around and give a teary eyed interview about NOT MANY people asking if she was ok and say it’s not enough for to just ‘survive’ but one has to thrive, I was stunned.
What shocked me even more was the outpouring of sympathy for them by the world, literal royals had hijacked an official visit meant to highlight charities and important causes for underprivileged people and made it about their problems and instead of being called out on it, she became the victim of that whole visit. I still struggle to wrap my head around it.
yes, totally agree- it was utterly mind-boggling!!!!
That was my turning point too. Talk about being tone deaf and having poor timing …!!!
Superb comment, exactly how I felt although I was also exceptionally angry. She was there to represent my Queen and Country and she betrayed both, that I will never forgive !!!!!
I wonder if Meghan asked her staff if they were ok…
The look on Tom Brady’s face was classic when Harry made the denial. He was so stunned by Harry’s answer, as were the audience. It just reinforced that Harry & Meghan believe we are all so stupid.
Watching him chuck a tantrum would be REAL tv! Mollycoddling the two of them has been the norm and gotten them sympathy they don't deserve!
Tom was pathetic. I wish he had 3:51 had the courage/integrity to challenge Harry. So what if he walked out? AIR IT! Let everyone see that Harry couldn’t take the heat… that he’s a petulant wuss.
Surely SOMEONE has the journalistic integrity to call them out! Let’s see how they respond to UNSCRIPTED questions…
Yes you are right of course!
They won’t allow interviews with journalists of integrity. The journalists who are wanting to ask those questions are ignored
I felt Tom was too stunned and confused by what Harry said and the coldness of his almost tight lipped reply to form a question challenging Harry.Tom doesn't seem to be a quick thinker so maybe it took a while after the interview to get his head around that level of public gaslighting .Took me awhile 😂
Absolutely right, Tom could have stopped him in his tracks and made him look the fool he is, he was great friends with William and Catherine, I think he’s well and truly sabotaged that one, big mistake!
I wonder what the small print was in the legal agreement for this interview🤔
😅what I remember of the clips I saw, was the shock on Tom's face, almost as if to say 'what???' . Classic!!
I came in time for last few minutes, dang it! Will have a listen again but I did hear you say Tom Bradby looked like he'd realised he had backed the wrong horse. I think you're right. He looked a bit dumbfounded to me, as if he couldn't believe his own ears.
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Hopefully the Duke of Hazard and his side kick will get the message and go quietly into retirement. Always love your bright and cheerful chats. Goodnight.
Yes I’d be interested to hear what you think when you catch the rest! X
Absolutely no one asked me today how I’m doing .
Unfortunately I don't believe she miscarried. If I remember rightly a lot was being said on the topic of miscarriage in the media and she just jumped on the bandwagon. I don't believe there is any level that either will stoop to further their own cause and make money. Their hypocrisy is astounding and they should be thoroughly ashamed of how they have behaved towards both of their families. I love your channel by the way!
Another channel I watched said that she plagiarized the miscarriage story. That doesn't surprise me.
@@celia61597 The book is Chasing Light by Sephanie Tong, from what I found.
A story with 2 different versions - she was alone inside the house with Archie (in the article) OR they were just moving into their Montecito home with a friend as witness (in Netflix drama) - PLUS a disjointed followup story of an unlikely private burial (in Waaagh, I mean Spare) would be patently false.
My problem with the miscarriage story is the timelines. Daughter born June 2021. She needed to have been pregnant in September 2020. She talked about her miscarriage in November 2020 and said she picked up 18 months old Archie. Archie born may 2019 would indeed have been 18 months by November 2020. So when did she miscarry and how many months in, especially since they claim to have buried the dead child under some tree. Need some months of pregnancy to have a Fetus to bury. And also needed time for some healing before getting pregnant again. Like I said, the timelines don't add up for me
She never had a miscarriage for ANY kid. She's unable to have children. Archie and Lilibet are surrogates. That's why we never see them or if we do they're different looking!
Often times when someone accuses you of something it’s because it’s a plausible action to them. I’ve been shocked in the past to have been accused of an action that was along the lines of ‘but why would I do that?! ‘. I was genuinely surprised. It turns out the person accusing me regularly did what she was accusing me of. So to her it was likely that I was as well. This was a huge lesson to me. If someone accuses you just take a moment to consider if they are revealing what they are capable of in that situation.
Your perspective is so refreshing - balanced, calm and straight forward, the snippets well researched. Yes, the look of shock on Tom Bradby's face at the interview was undeniable, so too the complete u-turn denial from Harry, his expression of sneering scorn for the Press.
Having wealth, privilege and every possible advantage for an independent life of service was what they wanted, and in the beginning, we truly believed them. The saddest part - their potential to do so much good all lost to ego, vanity, greed, the unending chase for the A-lister fame.
Aida, Singapore.
Yes, it's very sad to see two highly privileged people who have such arrogance and hatred - when they could be doing so much good in the world.
But unfortunately you need a balanced personality for that - and these two are about as self centred, and unbalanced as you could ever get.
You believed them?
Well she couldn't have been too good an actor getting into "character" cause I could see right through it from the start!
I did too especially the big doe eyes gazing wide eyed with a hint of tears. She did the same during the Ophra interview. Must be something they taught in her drama lessons along with suitable make up
You are spot on. I actually felt rather sorry for Tom Bradbury when the realisation hit him. He realised he’d been set up good and proper and had foolishly alienated himself from the future King of England for the Ginger Whinger.
Oh dear Tom what have you done !
Tom Bradby wanted to ask more. I agree that Harry would have walked out.
Any decent journalist would never interview either of them it's not a real interview if you can only ask questions picked by them a farce actually I don't care for Prince Andrew but in the interview he did he was asked real questions not ones he had picked it was a bit of a car crash interview on his part but at least he answered real questions asked by the interviewer wether he told the truth I don't know but at least he answered questions
Agree completely with the interviewers getting nervous. Tom Bradby looked so uncomfortable, speechless, and yes, scared, when Harry denied the racism claims - not to mention the smirk on his face (I seriously would want to smack him)! Harry knew that question was coming and then gaslighted Tom - and the viewers. Tom has known Harry for a long time and I doubt he'll interview him again. Meghan prepares for everything, she's been doing this a long time. In the Netflix series they addressed any and all claims and then put a spin on it. Even going as far to imply that Meghan knew nothing about him or the RF because an interviewer gave her a quiz on the UK and she didn't get the answers correctly.
Great analysis!
Yes, I had the same feeling that something of a realisation swept across Tom Bradby's face. And he did hold back to keep Harry there.
I wonder though, if interviewers stop holding back and take the risk of the interviewee to walk out, wouldn't it open the door for more people to push back on Harry? Wouldn't that close the door for people like Harry and Meghan to abuse the media for spreading "their" truth? I feel the fear from interviewers is gotten out of hand. Not just with Meghan and Harry, but with many public figures.
Yes it is very strange…
To get the interview they had probably signed something to say that they'd accept his answers.
I agree. Would love to see a bit more bravery, backed up with evidence. If they walk out, that would be very telling!
scared to risk losing future work.
I believe that may be because the interviewers are simply employees of the TV companies who are paying them to ensure the interview will be full of bombs that will get more viewers - that is, revenue - to tune in to their channels.
Tom Bradby was friends with both brothers, so worth remembering he is a PERSONAL FRIEND. All interviews are pre-scripted and who has control of the final cut? is anyone's guess. Hardly pragmatic & proactive interviews. But even Bradby was wrong footed by SPARES reply! I think SPARE got the reply wrong & then had to go with it. ''My wife didn't say that''! actually she didn't - SHE IMPLIED IT - and he was using weasel words that BACKFIRED, leaving himself & Bradby - speechless. Harry's plagiarised words ''silence is betrayal'' indeed they are both grandparents went to their graves with their behaviour undoing all their lifetimes work.
Yes, I thought TB didn’t pursue the racism response because he thought Harry would blow up, and probably insult him. Friendship be dammed! The impression I got from that interview was that Harry believed he was doing Tom a favour.He was patronising and arrogant
I have one question. Why didn’t Harry who had access to therapy didn’t get his wife access to therapy. He goes on and on about mental health but he couldn’t get his wife a therapist to help her in her emotional low key moments?
Thank you as a Brit I really appreciate your commentary and views. No over the top analysis and drama. Always insightful and thoughtfully put together videos.
Thanks 😊
Bradby was shocked at Harry gaslighting about the racist comment.
The miscarriage story of which there have been 3 versions…..if someone suffers something so tragic there is only one version, it doesn’t need to be embellished or dramatised.
I detected a flash of concern on Harry's face when Tom Bradby brought up the accusation of racism. Harry replied that it was the British media who accused the royal family, then asked "did Meghan say.....". I think he was wondering ' what on earth has she said now?'
But Bradby did have the goods - he was accurate with quoting MM's words. Harry had to lie through his teeth to wiggle out of that one, and it showed. He also used his arrogance. Nobody believed him.
The Montecito duo are so quiet, That they never shut up 😜
Hahaha that’s it!
😂😂. I wish the media would stop covering them.
Tom was close to both brothers. I remember him saying, after the S Africa interview that he had been genuinely concerned because Harry seemed different on that tour ( unfriendly and hostile to the royal reporters and photographers). William cut ties with Tom immediately after but I think it was the moment of denial in the second interview that Tom finally realised he’d been played.
The Remembrance Day photo was a real shock to me. Clearly manipulative, I remarked to my son (who is in PR), that their PR company obviously did not understand the Brits. That photo was appalling and all involved should be ashamed of themselves. However, there were many more of a similar nature to come! Thank you for your very astute analysis of the H&M adventures!
Agreed. And the way m framed the racism claims was so American view of racism. Britain is racist as well. Like all countries but she was spinning that story to appeal to Americans. I'm NOT saying the family was racist to her AT ALL. just...unaware and as another commenter Said so unworldly. I think in waaagh harry Saud the queen invited m over to talk about voting and the elections in America. M decided against that and talked about filming suits in Canada. Noooo the queen was head of the commonwealth and has met many presudents she wanted to go deep on American politics with an America family member. If she was a normal person she would have perhaps been daunted due to her lack of knowledge. But no just patronisingly talks about making TV. In Canada. To.the.QUEEN.
And after that, it was the 9/11 memorial, then the Uvalde memorial. They are play acting as Royals in America while most of us see right through them.
You are SO right about Meghan getting into character! I've noticed that, when she's making a point, or getting ready to tell a lie, she goes all actressy. One example was when she told Oprah about the royals' so-called remark about her baby's skin colour (ooee look at me, I'm so bitterly hurt, very nearly in tears). Another one was when she mimed that cruel curtsey. There are more...
I holidayed in The Gambia once, the people were lovely but although intellectually I understood poverty in the third world nothing prepared me for the reality and the struggle for individuals to maintain an existence. It was truly shocking and I was torn between respect and pity for the people and the discomfort I felt at what I perceived as tourist "porn". Markle was disgusting in that interview. Self indulgent with her narcissism clearly on show. She is highly manipulative but has no true emotional intelligence.
Good eye! I suspected she’s been getting into character for every interview
It was that interview that convinced me that Meghan was not the innocent,naive girl that she pretended to be,she was a totally different person
We always turn tom bradbury off on the tv after his interview and his betrayal to Williams frienship
You really hit the nail on the head, as we say in the States. I agree with you that S. Africa was not the place to take jabs & ask for sympathy. When people are trying to survive, it is a little disturbing that they are complaining about Frogmore Cottage not being big enough. I'm sure that lots of homeless families would be happy to live there. It just makes me sick. M's fragility? She is about as fragile as a semitruck. I loved your narrative! Keep it up! ✌️❤️🥺 from 🇺🇲
Can you imagine her NOT telling people how she felt, what she wanted, or needed? She who was never backward in coming forward. Her staff could corroborate that she made her feelings known regardless of how she came across. So, if she wasn't saying that she wasn't OK everyone could rightly conclude that she WAS OK.
I think she has such a knack of putting 'word salads' in everywhere, you find it really difficult to actually get an answer from her on anything. In speeches, in writing, she just goes on and on and you're like 'Get to the point' , maybe she will make a great politician after all (sadly)
Very well perceived re M & H doing interviews. Tom Bradby was a family friend and went to both William and Harry’s weddings as a guest not reporter, his wife is a jewellery designer and has collaborated with Catherine in the past. For some unfathomable reason despite normally being known as an astute and well respected reporter he fell for H & M’s tales of woe. Sadly this has cost him his friendship with William & Catherine and I think now Bradby sees H & M for the duplicitous manipulators they are particularly when H backtracked on the racism claim - his face was a picture - the absolute realisation that he had been taken for a fool by H was written all over his face, poor guy.
I am embarrassed to say now that I believed her back when I saw that snippet of the documentary. She was really good at looking so young and innocent there! Makes me sick to my stomach now that I know more. Thank you for sharing! I def need to watch her whole doc now!
Another excellent, well thought out video. Thank you!!!
I think that is a very balanced and mature view you have taken, and extremely refreshing to acknowledge that you were taken in.....its her stock in trade, I admire your honesty .
No one that old who has dealt with acting is innocent!
Tom should have pushed Harry more and made him accountable, so Harry could really expose his true character.
You nailed it, very good observations, they are actually extremely manipulative and savvy, I agree with you about Tom Badbury having a moment of realisation that … omg I have been duped. He definitely was wrong about Harry and as an intelligent man is not a good judge of character. We have seen it since the beginning.
My elderly mum has just read Spare. There was a copy in the resident's lounge at their sheltered housing.
She was incredulous! And she absolutely loves your analytical videos 😀.
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Say hi to your Mum, and thank her very much for watching! 😊🤗💕
@@thevintagereadhow cool is that !! That’s quite an endorsement… I live the elderly; they’ve seen it all and have great BS-o-meters!!
Set up the pain - lay the blame: so succinctly put!!!! Thank you Shauna - your intelligence and humour are so refreshing!!!!
You are so right! That shocked paused and Bradby DID know he backed the wrong horse! Exactly my thinking! Bravo!
I agree with you on the Tom Brady moment. In my opinion he looked shocked and unsure of the best way to handle Harry’s accusations/denial. I am in the US and most of my friends feel like I do, that Harry is the ultimate man child or they just don’t care about them. Loving your videos. You have such a pleasant voice and a way with words. Would love to have you in my book club!
My response to young people coming into my office and complaining about other people was..."Well, first, we're all just trying to get to the end of the day." Reminding them that everyone has imperfections, struggles, and bad days...then I really listened to the complaint.
I completely agree with your assessment of Tom Bradby's face....confusion then oh dash, I should have backed William
I agree with you on the fact that Harry and Meghan play up to the interviewers. I also felt that Tom Bradby not only was worried that Harry might get up and leave the interview, but that Harry was angry, which you could see on his face, and that he could possibly get up and strike him. And yes, I’m sure he feels he bet on the wrong horse!!!
H was very aggressiv in his interview citing the interviewer not to ask questions that he disliked otherwise he’s impolite.
Yes I agree... very cold and agressive at times!
A gruelling work schedule?😅 The statistics showed that during her 10 minutes as a working royal she only managed to do 72 engagements or something like that and was basically at the bottom of the list as the laziest senior royal! But I guess if you're used to 1 hour a week schedule then anything more than that is gruelling. What a pathetic joke. Then she writes the op-ed plagiarizing a miscarriage story from another woman to counter the criticism she received from the SA ITV documentary, that's the only reason she conducted the fake story of a myth carriage. What kind of person does that? No shame, no empathy. It's appalling in my humble opinion.
One question if Meg allegedly had a miscarriage how come nobody knew about it until that article was published. Imo she would have announced it to the world before then like she did at the Princess of yorks wedding with Archie. How cruel to be over shadowed onyour wedding day
I would have pushed back and filmed what happened next. Let Harry loose his temper and have a fit and air it for all to see the real man he has become!
I am so glad I found you in my meanderings through RUclips. It is fun to hear your evidence-based analysis and insightful observations of the Remarkable Harkles. They are a never-ending story that has taken us on an interesting chain of emotions. For me, it went from disbelief to disappointment, to anxiety for the RF, to hot anger, and now it is amusement just watching them maneuver as the RF, ever so deftly, controls the relationship with the subtleness of a dressage rider
Really good insights here. I think it gets to the reality of her being a so-so actress, and Harry just too narcissistic to pull off the kind of empathy that might make them more relatable. As it is, they are pretty transparent and their pettiness and entitlement obvious. I'm 'of an age' where I recall many of the events that Harry was a child for - and the lies are stunningly apparent. Many of the actual royal reporters have walked through how they do their work, and Harry's paranoia about them is simply untrue. And like all these kind of people - they are actually the ones doing that which they accuse others of. And wouldn't dream of continuing an interview that wasn't going to serve their narrative. They don't want to avoid the media - they want to control them.
“Gruelling work schedule” sooo funny😂. I love your films. Thank you
I was very disappointed in Bradbury, he chose the wrong side, he deserves all he gets.
Narcissists don't do empathy.
Tom Bradbury reacted with shock and confusion at Harry’s response to the racism question. At the time I thought he backed down because he thought Harry’s mental health was unstable and that’s why he didn’t push him anymore. Remember he’d. Been friends with both Princes for years, from what I understand. He probably thought he’d become unhinged and to challenge him, well who knows what he might have done?!!
The look on Tom Bradbury face was brilliant I thought he looked as he was going to fall of the chair plus there was almost a fear this interview is going belly up it took a few seconds to get himself together and be able to continue it must have felt like a life time The arrogance of Harry and twisted smirk as if saying I have got him now At that moment I really disliked Harry he really showed what he’s made of
It is not enough to just survive but thrive was taken from Maya Angelou! I heard Maya state this on a television interview!
I like your investigative critical thinking and the points you share, that other channels haven't ❤
Up until the SA doco, I had some sympathy for MM, but the ‘nobody asked me if I am ok’ in a country where 5 minutes ago she was dancing with the poorest people, was the moment I saw through her.
I thought he looked stunned when Prince Pothead walked back the racism claim against the RF. Thank you for your videos!!! Love them! Very enlightening!
Absolutely fascinating analysis once again! Tom Bradby did look utterly confounded in that moment when Harry gaslighted him, didn’t he? 😵💫 I’m sure it will be used to teach about gaslighting in the future. Love this channel! ❤
Your analysis is spot on. I enjoy watching you because, as much as I totally dislike both H&M, I do appreciate reasoned commentary rather than just vitriol. That’s boring eventually. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for such a great recount of the Bradbury interview reaction and the description of M's 'poor me' pattern. I too believe Tom was completely shocked at H's denial re the racism claim and worried he would walk out. I really appreciate hearing of your research in order to truthfully relate the content.
Thanks for watching!
As perceptive and well researched as always Shauna. A pleasure to watch. For me the pin dropped for Tom Bradby with that long drawn out "right". His realisation that he was dealing with a mendacious and twisted individual and that he'd backed the wrong brother, shooting himself in the foot will probably haunt Tom Bradby for years to come.
The look on Tom's face was pure disbelief that Harry could deny something so obviously said in public. He may have expected an argument about how or when it was said, but not to have it denied. They have a pattern, one of not taking any responsibility for ANYTHING that goes wrong.
That’s Meghan no pain no financial gain.
Agree with you about Tom's face. I think he must have regretted doing the interview.