This sounds a lot better than the last rumored option imo. But how often have trades the Raptors have made actually been leaked ahead of time? Believe it when I see it.
It's not fake news till it doesn't happen at the deadline stop just complaining about everything to complain if u don't like the trade news don't watch Ben's videos
Yeah, I have no doubt that the Lakers would like to cut salary and get rid of Vincent, but this seems like too high a cost to do that. Too good to be true from the Raps side of things.
I know it could lower flexibility some but I would first get Chicago on line knowing they may try and move Vucecic and could use some big depth if they do this? Lakers receive Bruce B + Davion M: Chicago get Kelly O + Christian W + LAL 2nd 2025 + LAC 2nd 25 + TOR 2nd 2026 Raptors receive Rui H + Gabe V + Jalen Smith. LAL gets off money and helps Def push this year. Chicago gets some big depth + 3 2nd round picks. Toronto fills depth holes gets more two way capabilities and most important lets us draft BPA next 2 drafts and aggregate assets if a star comes in the market that we want to take a run at. I would keep Chris B if he wants to stay on team for about $5 per. We would be able to see Rui and Jalen fit as both fit BBQ time line.
Knowing that teams are handcuffed ... whether Brown can be his old playoff self or not ... should be way more valuable than a couple of mid-second-round picks! I d do brown + boucher for Rui+Vincent + 3 seconds and Jalen Hood-Schifino
It’s 10,000 percent true - facts - That Raptors have been trying to get Rui Hachimura with Brown. Rui Hachimura is the Raptors # 1 target. He’s the perfect player to add size and compliment this core. ( 2nd is Zion and he’s 2nd for many reasons ) They have also made it clear to LAL that they will facilitate an all star trade to the best of their availability - if it nets Rui. The picks - i think they may be us going to them. The only caveat is Lakers don’t really want to move him. And frankly anybody who’s talking trades with LAL is asking for 1 of Rui; Austin; or Dalton. He’s only going to get moved if there’s a win for them.
@ I don’t think he’s their top target. Certainly not in the way that Rui is for the raps. Lakers are deathly afraid of LeBron retiring in the next 2 years. So to win now & keep him interested they want a bonafide star and they really need 3 and D. Brown is one of the pathways for them to do both. He’s a bonafide name - maybe not a huge star but Laker fans sure know him because he’s torched them only 2 seasons ago. Here’s the other factor Lakers have enough expirings to get at a 30-35 million dollar player in the offseason. If Rui is gone and replaced with Browns expiring that jumps to 50. As Brown is off the books. That’s sign playoff Jimmy Butler outright territory should he opt out in Miami. That’s add Brandon Ingram and someone else territory- so it’s not crazy that it would be in consideration. But LA arent ready to be finished exploring other deals just yet - and they won’t pull the trigger on this just yet while some of the star power names are in Limbo.
you not getting rui for brown, without raptors handing over a pick. its more likely boucher for vanderbilt who is injured all the time and owed 40 million.
I miss Woj. He was the only reputable one who had a good Guage on what was happening out there. Teams respected him and would leak him real info on what was happening behind the scenes.
No Koloko we need a 2025 second rounder and they can have Bruce Brown. Koloko is so good he plays in theG league. Gabe and Rui to take on salary perfect. We can draft a player better than Koloko in the first round.
@@Quantumhealthboss Koloko has to get back in game shape and has looked good with the Lakers in a few short stints. He had great chemistry with Scottie on PnR's and is age-wise perfect moving forward as Chomche gets reps with 905.
@@michaeltodd9753 Chemistry wasn't good enough to make a deal. Plus he is with Klutch Sports. Lebron and AD with Klutch. Khaman Maluach is a draft target for the Raptors, bigger, better, and Koloko has been practicing right through. He should be strong enough. There was a reason Masai didn't bring out the red carpet. Time will tell, but I truly believe we are better without him. I hope he never returns like Poeltl. Even Jv got traded to win. We waived him to move on.
Nobody will pay anything of worth for a 5ppg 23millions $ guy. They missed that train last summer. Maybe GSW could have jumped on him for Wiggins when Wiggs had his issues. He's playing good now.
Buddy these things don't change raptors ... we'll probably move him ... its not really a hiest for a bottom feeding team ... raptors need 2nd round picks and look for big guys with multiple picks ... pick best player available with top pick
….Raptors fans going to be disappointed after the Raptors make their trades. 6 months after the trades Raptors fans will be ok will it…seems like the common cycle . Wouldn’t be surprised if brown is gone for a couple second round picks
None of this matters. The problem starts at the top of the roster with Barnes. He's simply not the guy to lead this team into the future. He will never be a #1 option. Masai is 100% at fault for putting him in that roll and giving him all that money. How he decided to build around a roll player still blows my mind. Worst decision in Raptors history.
there are bs rumors and there are bs rumors. the lakers are not gonna get rid of a useful player they can use in playoffs in rui for a brown and give raptors picks. its more likely raptors handing over a 1st for rui. thats would be stupid being in a rebuild. its more likely lakers dump players and long term money like a vando who has 4 years 40 million owed who hasnt played cuz of injuries on raptors or a christian wood in salary dumps for two 2nd rounders.
@benrogers brown rumors have to be seen. its more likely boucher for vanderbilt who has 4 years left on his contract and hasnt played much due to injury and cant shoot the 3. that makes more sense than rui for brown. boucher can play defence and shoot the 3 and is available and expiring versus vando who never plays and is owed 40 million.
$66 million/year for A Davis in '27-'28? We're getting closentonthe ballpark of $1 million/game. Ridiculous does not cover it. Salaries have to stop escalating.
Could we trade for a new coach? There is no way Darko is still the coach at the end of this season. Like I've said before...tanking is one thing, but instilling a losing culture with no accountability is insane...and please no Jama lama dingdong as a replacement...
There has been several times that Hatchimura in deal even last year... I call BS until Bobby reports deal for Cowboy Brown...😮😂😂 Koloko as a throw in or no deal... But if we get the seconds in this year draft...
Raptors Digest...the channel you go to when the Raps suck and there's nothing to talk about. Keep coming back to this channel only if you want to see Ben continue to speculate on trades that will never happen for clicks. The Raps suck and it's OK. It became clear very early that we were organically shooting for the 3 best chances at Cooper Flagg, and this team has been expertly put together to achieve that goal without looking like we are "tanking". Why would anything change? We vastly overpaid players who are not living up to their contracts, and no one is going to give us anything of value for them. In any deal, we are likely going to get screwed. Other GMs are not that stupid. They see the Raptors as a place to offload their undesirable players--that's it--period!
My ears really hurt. Every day since those Kevin Durant trade talks, and every trade rumors; you Ben has named Toronto Raptors as "Front Runners"....To date, absolutely nothing has happened. Mark my words, this will past, and I give you till Monday, to have the Raps as favourite to land the biggest name in an NBA trade. I am done with this channel.
You can't make any meaningful boxscore average from like 4 games. Dude hadn't played in like 8 months. He had a decent game on Saturday too. That's more indicative of his production. GMs aren't considering "4pts". Don't trade him just yet, he has almost a month to hopefully show is value for the dealine.
The players that would get maximum return is Poeltl and Barrett. I do not expect them to move either, but both would return more than Brown. Once the draft is done, it may be required to move one to free up more playing time, but until best available player is picked at Raptors spot, it's not clear who could be moved. If you trade either now, Murphy law dictates that it will be the other guy will need to be moved
Does Atlanta, who is ready to hand over the starting job to Okongwu, bite on a Capela and Zeller for Olynyk, Boucher and some 2nd rounders offer? They would get capable backups who can both stretch the floor. We don’t need Zeller, we’d waive him, it just helps Atlanta lower their payroll a little bit
They wanna trade Rui cos they now have insight he's garbage and brown on a championship team can have better role.. at moment DFS arrived in LA Rui got washed
Rui’s contract has negative value, but the seconds might be valuable. Am I a homer for thinking the 3 seconds should be 1 first and a second to take on those bad contracts?
This sounds a lot better than the last rumored option imo.
But how often have trades the Raptors have made actually been leaked ahead of time?
Believe it when I see it.
I’m starting to get annoyed of all these fake trade news…
Same here. It's to distract us from how bad the Raps are!!
It's not fake news till it doesn't happen at the deadline stop just complaining about everything to complain if u don't like the trade news don't watch Ben's videos
So tune it out. 🤷♂️
Fair, I’ll unsubscribe
@@thekid2946 Me too.
I’m not buying this rumor at all.
Yeah, I have no doubt that the Lakers would like to cut salary and get rid of Vincent, but this seems like too high a cost to do that. Too good to be true from the Raps side of things.
Would be fleece of the year if legit
Has any of his rumours actually happened?
It’s like hanging around my wife’s sisters - rumors (gossip) 😂
@@jasonaaron2542 good analogy..
I know it could lower flexibility some but I would first get Chicago on line knowing they may try and move Vucecic and could use some big depth if they do this?
Lakers receive Bruce B + Davion M: Chicago get Kelly O + Christian W + LAL 2nd 2025 + LAC 2nd 25 + TOR 2nd 2026 Raptors receive Rui H + Gabe V + Jalen Smith.
LAL gets off money and helps Def push this year. Chicago gets some big depth + 3 2nd round picks. Toronto fills depth holes gets more two way capabilities and most important lets us draft BPA next 2 drafts and aggregate assets if a star comes in the market that we want to take a run at.
I would keep Chris B if he wants to stay on team for about $5 per.
We would be able to see Rui and Jalen fit as both fit BBQ time line.
Don’t care too much for Rui or Gabe but if it gets more picks in this years draft… sign up
Knowing that teams are handcuffed ... whether Brown can be his old playoff self or not ... should be way more valuable than a couple of mid-second-round picks!
I d do brown + boucher for Rui+Vincent + 3 seconds and Jalen Hood-Schifino
Garbage report. Bruce brown was a mistake bye has no value. Do your own analysis and report. Stop passing false rumours
It’s 10,000 percent true - facts - That Raptors have been trying to get Rui Hachimura with Brown. Rui Hachimura is the Raptors # 1 target. He’s the perfect player to add size and compliment this core. ( 2nd is Zion and he’s 2nd for many reasons )
They have also made it clear to LAL that they will facilitate an all star trade to the best of their availability - if it nets Rui.
The picks - i think they may be us going to them.
The only caveat is Lakers don’t really want to move him. And frankly anybody who’s talking trades with LAL is asking for 1 of Rui; Austin; or Dalton.
He’s only going to get moved if there’s a win for them.
I have a hard time believing LA wants bruce now
@ I don’t think he’s their top target. Certainly not in the way that Rui is for the raps.
Lakers are deathly afraid of LeBron retiring in the next 2 years. So to win now & keep him interested they want a bonafide star and they really need 3 and D. Brown is one of the pathways for them to do both. He’s a bonafide name - maybe not a huge star but Laker fans sure know him because he’s torched them only 2 seasons ago.
Here’s the other factor Lakers have enough expirings to get at a 30-35 million dollar player in the offseason. If Rui is gone and replaced with Browns expiring that jumps to 50. As Brown is off the books. That’s sign playoff Jimmy Butler outright territory should he opt out in Miami. That’s add Brandon Ingram and someone else territory- so it’s not crazy that it would be in consideration.
But LA arent ready to be finished exploring other deals just yet - and they won’t pull the trigger on this just yet while some of the star power names are in Limbo.
No way raps send picks there way... Zero chance
@@vintagepimpage6049 I'm not saying they must - but if that's the ask - I can promise it's not a dealbreaker for Rui.
you not getting rui for brown, without raptors handing over a pick.
its more likely boucher for vanderbilt who is injured all the time and owed 40 million.
I miss Woj. He was the only reputable one who had a good Guage on what was happening out there. Teams respected him and would leak him real info on what was happening behind the scenes.
Any type of Lakers trade that does not include Koloko coming back is a hard no.
100%
Yeah we need Koloko back
No Koloko we need a 2025 second rounder and they can have Bruce Brown. Koloko is so good he plays in theG league. Gabe and Rui to take on salary perfect. We can draft a player better than Koloko in the first round.
@@Quantumhealthboss Koloko has to get back in game shape and has looked good with the Lakers in a few short stints. He had great chemistry with Scottie on PnR's and is age-wise perfect moving forward as Chomche gets reps with 905.
@@michaeltodd9753 Chemistry wasn't good enough to make a deal. Plus he is with Klutch Sports. Lebron and AD with Klutch. Khaman Maluach is a draft target for the Raptors, bigger, better, and Koloko has been practicing right through. He should be strong enough. There was a reason Masai didn't bring out the red carpet. Time will tell, but I truly believe we are better without him. I hope he never returns like Poeltl. Even Jv got traded to win. We waived him to move on.
Nobody will pay anything of worth for a 5ppg 23millions $ guy. They missed that train last summer.
Maybe GSW could have jumped on him for Wiggins when Wiggs had his issues. He's playing good now.
Again it's not about his current stats... As explained in the video
hes a free agent this off season so his 23 million doesnt matter if the team who acquires him sends a bad contract back
Expiring contract has value.
Buddy these things don't change raptors ... we'll probably move him ... its not really a hiest for a bottom feeding team ... raptors need 2nd round picks and look for big guys with multiple picks ... pick best player available with top pick
….Raptors fans going to be disappointed after the Raptors make their trades. 6 months after the trades Raptors fans will be ok will it…seems like the common cycle . Wouldn’t be surprised if brown is gone for a couple second round picks
Lakers fan here do we have a deal Raptors ? 🤝 we don’t need brown to score out here in LA just defend
100% deal if this is true
None of this matters. The problem starts at the top of the roster with Barnes. He's simply not the guy to lead this team into the future. He will never be a #1 option. Masai is 100% at fault for putting him in that roll and giving him all that money. How he decided to build around a roll player still blows my mind. Worst decision in Raptors history.
Scottie got a bit softie with baby, but is working his way back.
yet you're against tanking.
be smart and patient like me, not emotional #cooper.
@ What?
there are bs rumors and there are bs rumors. the lakers are not gonna get rid of a useful player they can use in playoffs in rui for a brown and give raptors picks. its more likely raptors handing over a 1st for rui. thats would be stupid being in a rebuild.
its more likely lakers dump players and long term money like a vando who has 4 years 40 million owed who hasnt played cuz of injuries on raptors or a christian wood in salary dumps for two 2nd rounders.
I like it it would be a good trade for TO and the lakers are desperate
I don't take such news seriously. I have to see to believe
Why would the Lakers be that stupid to give up a young upcoming star
@benrogers brown rumors have to be seen. its more likely boucher for vanderbilt who has 4 years left on his contract and hasnt played much due to injury and cant shoot the 3. that makes more sense than rui for brown. boucher can play defence and shoot the 3 and is available and expiring versus vando who never plays and is owed 40 million.
Unless there is a signed offer it's just the rumor mill. If it's too good to be true it probably is....
Could we waive Gabe Vincent? Or replace with Koloko?
And holay 66 mill 1 season… damnn these guys r making money
$66 million/year for A Davis in '27-'28? We're getting closentonthe ballpark of $1 million/game. Ridiculous does not cover it. Salaries have to stop escalating.
Wake me up when trade deadline is over all these rumours are dreams at this point
Yes, I rarely watch these possible trade scenarios they are totally untrustworthy
Could we trade for a new coach? There is no way Darko is still the coach at the end of this season. Like I've said before...tanking is one thing, but instilling a losing culture with no accountability is insane...and please no Jama lama dingdong as a replacement...
You didn’t see the last game.
There has been several times that Hatchimura in deal even last year...
I call BS until Bobby reports deal for Cowboy Brown...😮😂😂
Koloko as a throw in or no deal...
But if we get the seconds in this year draft...
If i had a nickel for all the Ben Rogers rumors that came to fruition, i'd be a wealthy man..
Raptors Digest...the channel you go to when the Raps suck and there's nothing to talk about. Keep coming back to this channel only if you want to see Ben continue to speculate on trades that will never happen for clicks. The Raps suck and it's OK. It became clear very early that we were organically shooting for the 3 best chances at Cooper Flagg, and this team has been expertly put together to achieve that goal without looking like we are "tanking". Why would anything change? We vastly overpaid players who are not living up to their contracts, and no one is going to give us anything of value for them. In any deal, we are likely going to get screwed. Other GMs are not that stupid. They see the Raptors as a place to offload their undesirable players--that's it--period!
That account is so suspicious, everyones been calling it out. Its definitely a burner account at best.
Dude this is a Terrible trade, RUI is not an asset he's a poor man version of OG, for Bruce Brown a 2025-FRP is a must
No one giving frp for a 23 mil 4 points average per game unless they high AF.
@@XDarkAshX Brown has expiring contract and playoff+Championship experience, plays D. He's worth 2FRPs
My ears really hurt. Every day since those Kevin Durant trade talks, and every trade rumors; you Ben has named Toronto Raptors as "Front Runners"....To date, absolutely nothing has happened. Mark my words, this will past, and I give you till Monday, to have the Raps as favourite to land the biggest name in an NBA trade.
I am done with this channel.
23 mil for a player that averages 4 ppg, only trade you getting for brown is a fortune cookie from Mandarin restaurant. He is not even worth 25 cents.
You can't make any meaningful boxscore average from like 4 games. Dude hadn't played in like 8 months. He had a decent game on Saturday too. That's more indicative of his production. GMs aren't considering "4pts".
Don't trade him just yet, he has almost a month to hopefully show is value for the dealine.
If true….Kelly Olynyk for Cameron Johnson changes everything!
The players that would get maximum return is Poeltl and Barrett. I do not expect them to move either, but both would return more than Brown. Once the draft is done, it may be required to move one to free up more playing time, but until best available player is picked at Raptors spot, it's not clear who could be moved. If you trade either now, Murphy law dictates that it will be the other guy will need to be moved
Rui is Japanese so he doesn't care about "wanting to play home"
Lakers have their 25 second and LAC second.
Does Atlanta, who is ready to hand over the starting job to Okongwu, bite on a Capela and Zeller for Olynyk, Boucher and some 2nd rounders offer? They would get capable backups who can both stretch the floor. We don’t need Zeller, we’d waive him, it just helps Atlanta lower their payroll a little bit
U guys still trust in masai😂 he single handedly RUINED this organization
Ain’t no way 😂
Ayeeeee
They wanna trade Rui cos they now have insight he's garbage and brown on a championship team can have better role.. at moment DFS arrived in LA Rui got washed
🏀
naw man that aint it lol
Rui’s contract has negative value, but the seconds might be valuable. Am I a homer for thinking the 3 seconds should be 1 first and a second to take on those bad contracts?
Scottie Barnes is a face of the league
Darko's pizza parties will = championships
Who the hell is Chris Davis? Not even worth mentioning this report this is probably some kid
Not interested in long term crap salary