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Imagine staying up day and night making concept arts and design for the Pilot Alien, building and animating it, only for the alien to be covered up with Tetris.
Every one of these videos makes me sad about the lost potential of what the 2011 film could have been.
I don’t know what you are talking about. The film was good.
@@miamibrando3471 It's great! But they essentially erased most of the practical effects and replaced them completely with cgi. And a lot of the cgi is sadly quite lacking.
Well sadly that version was, what was to become the thing with almost every modern adaptation/remake of movies.
Bad directors with no real passion and understanding towards the source and horrible writing.
Like for example, with a working helicopter and Thing on it, the movie would’ve ended right there. Or where the one women mutated on the other, totally pointless, Ms maincharacter was totally alone, easiest assimilation, but no, not with that writing.
@@miamibrando3471 The 2011 film was trash.
They changed The Thing from a paranoia-striking insidious infiltrator to just another stupid boodyman running after you in the dark jump-scare movie.
The writing is horrible, there are no memorable scenes, no character development and the acting is terrible.
In the 82' movie we get half an hour only for character development and all the characters have their unique things, shapes and personalities. In the 2011 the character development time was literally cut from the movie.
The 82' Thing was smart, smart enough to frame people and smart enought o build a flying saucer smart. The 2011 one is a retard. It goes into a 30+ second transformation stage in front of a potential victim, allowing the victim to run and alert everybody so The Thing gets killed.
The creature is also utterly incoherent in the 2011 movie. One moment it splits into several smaller things to fight more people at the same time, the other second (on the Spaceship, in the final scenes) it can't get the protagonist because the protagonist ran into a space-ship vent and The Thing is too big (apparently it forgot it can split into multiple entities).
The main character has utterly 0 charisma and all it can do is put on a concerned face like it's constipated or something. And this is pretty much the case with everyone in the movie. In the original people acted very natural because they spent much time together and the script wasn't spoiled to them beforehand. In the 2011 movie everyone acts like the got a huge carrot up their ass and that's about it as far as acting is concerned.
I won't even begin with the massive plotholes (such as the crew supposedly being made out of scienties but taking 0 preventive measures agaisnt alien-pathogens, despite it being known even artefacts/thousands-of-years-old-corpses FROM EARTH can be very dangerous... or using A GIANT HOUSE-WORK DRILL ON THE ALIEN IN THE ICE-BLOCK).
I'm glad you liked the movie but please don't tell us it's good.
If you liked it, you liked it because your standards were very low.
@@Kriegerherz15 Well, the reality would be, with a creature of the Thing's capabilities, all it would need to do would be to split off a bunch of mouse-sized critters, instruct them to wait until people are asleep, then attack them, and zap, no humans. Or emit spores that infect the humans, or mosquito-like things that can inject infection, ad infinitum, just like in the alien universe. There's really no way the earth's biome doesn't become thingized once it surreptitiously infects a human. But where's the story in that? My bugaboo is how much I disliked the majority of the stuff that went into the sanders and juliette Things. Big jagged random teeth and random sprouting tentacles all over and stretched tendon-muscle tissue. It borrowed too much from later-day survival-sci-fi-horror video games and comics, even anime, and not for the better IMHO. It's just not the same philosophy used in the '82 thing. In that one there was a certain economy and fit-for-immediate-purpose 'rational' to how and what the Thing morphed. In the '11 version it was just throw in the kitchen sink and do overkill. Yah, one could chalk it up to the Thing taking a different approach as it gained experience with humans, but storywise '11's MO leaves me cold. The back story with the Thing's escape from its capture pod, killing the other specimens, and the fights with the Pilot species would have been really interesting to me, but I can see, even though it's somewhat circular, the logic in not wanting tho throw money into that if they don't think the movie is going to make a profit or even break even, or somehow drives audience appreciation down (or both). Sh*t.
That's some beautiful work! Thank you for finally sharing it with us.
"Your sculpture is only as good as your reference"
ADI: ...and this is the warehouse we have for that (there's a lot of stuff is what I'm sayin')
I remember watching a breakdown reel video showing how they painted over the practical FX with the CGI, but that video seem to have been scrubbed from the internet. I regret not downloading it.
found it
ruclips.net/video/xFBMC3oeHUE/видео.html
Seeing the works of these guys covered by the cgi was a crime! Universal must distribute the director's cut version!
Everything would've looked amazing if it were all done with practical effects and very little CGI.
But that's just my opinion
We really need to see a cut before they dumped CGI all over it and removed the original pilot creature.
They were always intended to be CGI enhanced a little though, so without anything at all they probably wouldn’t work neither, plus there is a lost art to selling stuff like this to the audience, like specialised lighting, framing, reversing or speeding up the shot, and 80s style editing where you get an A to B motion in one shot, then a cut, set up the next motion, repeat, etc. it’d be tricky to ‘convert’ the raw footage at this stage.
I’d like to see it tried too, though, I mean heck, what people can do at home now with editing and CGI has advanced so far, that if someone could see their way to accidentally release all the required scenes as filmed, I dare say some fan could do something about adjusting and inserting them into a fan edit of the movie.
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I agree. They should release the Pilot Version of this film. I heard it’s better in every way including the ending. (Reply for more details;)
@fuck you (lol)
In the original ending, the Sander-Thing ran from the camp back to the ship. Kate and Carter chase it but their flamethrower is out of fuel so they use the Snowcat’s fuel when they get to the ship, noticing Sander’s tracks are becoming less human and more alien along the way. Carter/Kate are separated while looking for the Thing and a chase puts all three in the Cockpit. Kate threatens the Alien-Thing with a Thermite grenade and Carter chooses to burn it after brief hesitation. They go back to the snowcat and Kate takes the flamethrower to refuel it before noticing Carter’s missing earring, commenting on how she knew he was human the whole time. He reaches for the wrong ear and she burns him, knowing she just finished off her ride and fuel for it...
This is a brief summary of the original ending, I might’ve missed someThings;)
plot still sucked
@@LordWyatt But that's pretty much the ending in the film. What's different? Carter killing the Thing instead of Kate?
petition to release the pilot version of the movie
God I love this kind of stuff, the Thing is a really conceptually fascinating creature and seeing potential design artwork is really wild. Thank you for posting this! Also, have any of you (ADI) guys played any of the “Dead Space” videogames?
Wasted potential...
The Thing (1982) still being my favorite horror movie.
same here
0:35 Silhouette on the right is an Exploder necromorph from Dead Space.
I'm guessing they used that as a reference. You can also see a leaper at 0:43
@@sotheofdaein Oh, yeah, I've never noticed that one.
Brilliant body of work for this film,It still saddens me to this day the bad decision to cover everything with cgi.
We need another thing video game, I loved the first one so much and the monsters here would fit right into a second one.
Such unappreciated potential
Worst decision ever they went with CGI. These puppets looked amazing! They should Have known the fans will hate cgi. And the work they did there is fabulous!!
As a form of meditation, some Taoists like to paint. I think the ADI team might be the same way--but instead of enso in black ink, it's Thing explosions in tentacles. You guys rule
Awesome ideation... love it how you guys go your own way with projects like Harbinger Down, keep em comin!!
An insane amazing
amount of thought a design effort went into "The Things" possible
looks and effects one can only extrapolate any failures with the end product
within the film have to fall upon the shoulders of those in charge of the
production and typical Hollywood bureaucracy. I have been in the fx industry
all my life and been a huge fan of the original " The Thing" and can
only marvel at the efforts everyone at ADI put forth towards the film. It is a
glaring example of how the "industry" can decimate creativity.
Thank you to Alec and Tom for your efforts in this film, I
only wished they (the productions decision makers) had listened more to ADI and assumed less. Best, Michael Del Rossa
So much of it reminds me of Dead Space 1-3
No, Dead Space reminds you of The Thing. Not the other way around, The Thing had the idea first and even the developers of Dead Space admitted that they drew inspiration from The Thing. Pay respect where it’s due. The Thing paved the way bro.
@@fjr03clips99 actually...fans of both The Thing AND Dead Space realize exactly what he said and DO care. Quit being an idiot. He stated a fact. Dead Space wouldn't exist without "The Thing" 1982.
@@fjr03clips99 Be quiet fapper, quite frankly no one asked you.
All I'm saying is that some of this concept art should have been made more into the movie . I love a lot of the ideas. I'm also a huge The Thing fan.
That's really incredible
Some of those silhouettes look a lot like necromorphs. At 0:35 the one on the right looks like an exploder. At 0:43 the one on the left looks like a leaper.
I believe your right dude it totally is
You guys could have made this movie amazing. The thing is good. What I see on here would of been killer.The thing needs a reboot.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: You guys did a great job with this movie, I loved it! I will never forget the wonderful, horrific doom I felt when I realized what was happening in the Adams-Edvard scene ... :-) All this artwork shows you and your team were real Thing-fans, and the movie benefited for it.
What I wouldn't give to see or even read the script of how the Pilot scene would have played out. I really love all the different designs you had for it, and the one you landed on. I understand there were reasons, but it's a real shame it never made it into the movie.
I also like your drawings of the Juliette-Thing. The drawings make it's arms look much more flexible and wild than the hook-arms in the movie. Very mean looking! And the eye-stalk thing was haunting. Very reminiscent of the Norris-Thing :-)
A Question. I saw a mutation a couple times that didn't show up in the film. Kind of like a row of sea anemones bursting from some poor soul's face and head. What was the idea behind those? Spit acid/dna? A row of muscley mouths?
É incrível a capacidade criativa e artística de toda equipe! Grato por compartilhar!!!
The creative and artistic ability of the entire team is incredible! Thanks for sharing!!!
Dead Space 2 Remake I'll be happy to see these Necromorph creatures in the game
thank you very much for posting this
an invaluable insight in to a real treasure trove of materials
Currently going through this entire video and screenshotting every image to the best of my ability, although the fade effect means the top and bottom get cut off a lot. I'm going to put it in my art reference folder to study because this is all so good!! ❤
John Carpenter's the THING is one of the best SYFY Horror Movies ever Made!
Imo it is the greatest Sci Fi Horror film of all time.
Adoro este filme....❤️🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷❤️
Eu tbm cara
Need sequel to the thing 1981 with Macgready (Kurt Russell) and ADI Studio. The Blair monster was blown up with dynamite but it sure will resurrect as the thing's blood is alive. Macgready will probably be arrested and blamed fod killing his team mates when the retrieving team came to fetch the crew in antartica. With samples brought back, the military and researchers will drag McGready back to the site to retrieve the spaceship and meet the thing assimiliating victims.
I saw a video once where they tossed around ideas for what a sequel could entail. A sex-scene with the Thing would be terrifying. But my favorite idea on that video by far was one where at the end of the movie, after all the run around and effort of the main characters to contain the Thing creature, you learn that the Thing has already taken over the world, and maintains the global status-quo, keeping earthlings corralled in ignorance and only eating, at its leisure, at need or whim.
Done with the directoral care and attention of the first Thing, and with ADI arting the hell out of some gruesome Thing monsters, I would watch the SHIT out of that movie :-)
@@cRAVEtrance lol, based on what you said, only if the thing's mind got influenced by a good guy's mind that it absorbed will make it not to consume & replicate the girl that it decided to marry.
Idk.. I'd say none of them survived, I have a gut feeling childs is a thing creature as he disappeared in the underground part at the end.
But then also Mc'Ready could be a thing creature too, Since his clothing was found torn into and hidden in a furnace.
Hell.. both of them could be the thing duplicates and would both freeze until they were found at a later date.
@@LOLGotYerTags Mc'Ready proven human during blood test. He killed the Blair creature. He and the afro dude might both freeze to death as they have blown up their ice station to pieces, there's no heater, shelter and no food. The sequel will be entirely new cast, the rescue team despated to check on them.
Amazing how artists can have the same vision while working separately. I sculpted the thing too and it was almost exactly the same design as one if these.
so many awesome Komoda designs
Is there a book of this? Like "the Art of (name of movie)" that Dark Horse usually publish.
0:35 on the right, it's the exploding guy from Dead Space!
I want to see theses art designs in the movie
Will we ever see the thing (2011) without these after effects cgi bullshit? i want to see the pure FX that you made for these movie!
Man this guy likes spit face like alot
Great video
非常棒的设计
Imagine a movie of the thing whit guillermo del toro.
If another The Thing video game is created in the future,maybe they should use some of these unused concept arts..A lot of them are some freaky designs!
Exploder necromorph to the right x) 0:36
Que triste no hayan usado todo el efecto práctico, sería mucho mejor película
Impressive.
Dead Space Exploder at 0:35 and Leaper at 0:43
I love America
Never stops amazing me just how much you guys got screwed on this film, so much amazing work just thrown away for corporate greed and what did they get out of it, meh reviews, hope they are happy with them selves, cus your stuff could have made the film a lot nicer to watch.
SOOOO much dead space art silhouettes
i think rob bottin is proud on you guys and youre awesome work! the studio ruins it after...
Incrível
It is a pity that in the film a little used developments. The franchise just needs resuscitation.
I thought the pilot aliens were the ones to morph into humans
generally all the monsters look antropoids and its odd
but in this special case its the reverse
it look odd when a transformation not match the antropoid base of the body at least in the quick changes
their is not logic way that a giant tentacle output from the body
but some bone can broke and make spikes
or as seen in the movie a hand can separate for become a spider yes it make sens
They should of made a shark mutated alien
So much effort wasted on what could have been a surprisingly good movie Prequal. Even the Director Matthius Van Hannigan disowned the film and has not Directed since. I wish movie producers would just leave things alone and let Directors do whatever they want.
Where has he said he disowned the film?
Where can I see those sketches in high quality
круто
Name of the song at the beginning?
Eu sou muito fã do filme o enigma de outro mundo E o pior que esse filme não é nem da minha época kk eu tenho 15 anos de idade
the biggest crime in modern cinema is the butchering of the thing prequel with awful CGI, such a shame
on a side note I’d pay good money for a video game based on these designs btw, like a cross between Dead Space & The Thing
I'd pay good money to see the original version of this movie, before they painted over it in CGI.
They look like flood from halo series.
The Flood were inspired by the film The Thing 1982
We've literally just dropped a new episode discussing this! haveyoueverseen.buzzsprout.com - a great shame that the hard work of the studio adi guys got covered up 😢
It still annoys me how some people still say the 2011 movie that we got was a "true" or "faithful" adaption to the original. It totally wasn't!
With some minor concessions that the director acknowledged, it very much was.
@@Xenomrph I am bit confused at what you wrote. Are you supporting my statement or going against it?
@@governorkolp9321 I'm saying the 2011 movie was a true and faithful prequel to the original.
@@Xenomrph I'm sorry but I don't see how!
-The Thing is meant to all be about Stealth, in the 2011 movie the monster is stupid and gives itself away rampaging though hallways and so on (NOT true and faithful to the original).
-Cheap jump scares (The original did not rely on jump scares, it had a spooky story all the way through)
-Inconsistent story with the original (the UFO doesn't get blown up by the Norwegians).
-Under developed characters (the characters in the original all have great distinctions)
-Predicable scenes (I saw the guy turning into the Thing on the chopper coming)
-Awful CGI
- Stupid happenings (How could those two Americans crash a helicopter into the icy-cold mountains and still actually manage to make it back alive in one piece without any serious/fatal injuries?)
I don't have the energy to keep writing this list.
@@governorkolp9321 The Thing doesn't consider being stealthy at first because it doesn't know what humans are or how to behave around them - it learns that by the time of the 1982 movie, hence why it acts differently. Keep in mind that the Thing doesn't use any stealth when it's in the dog kennel, because it figures it doesn't have to.
The original has several jump scares, about as many as the prequel did.
The UFO thing is one of the things the director said was an intentional change, because they reasoned that there's no way the norwegians would have enough explosives to cleanly uncover the giant UFO without also damaging it. In fact, the characters try exactly that in the original 'Who Goes There?' novella and end up destroying the UFO. :P
The guy on the chopper was given away in the trailer (as were all of the Thing-outs - the marketing was kind of garbage). Without seeing the trailer, it's a pretty effective fake-out because the other guy is acting all weird and shaking and stuff.
The Americans surviving the crash is meant to be unbelievable, and the other characters don't believe it - they think the Americans are Things.
In short, I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
TBH even the finished practical designs were a bit meh. The only perticuarly scary one was what was supposed to be split face and they changed its "back story", all the rest just ended up looking like resident evil tyrant knock offs :/ Nothing "thing" about it no randomness or chaotic mutation its all video game monsters....... which makes even more sense when you find out they used a TON of scrapped concepts from the unmade Thing 2 game ((the split man, the chopper scene, even the woman were all rehashed ideas from that game)). There was nothing creative or original from the start, and the CGI just ruined it even more.
I'll be honest, I'm not a big fan of the 2011 version, as it makes a lot of mistakes in the script. Like, for example, repeating scenes from the Carpenter film and resulting in errors in continuity and the characters being uninteresting, hateful and generic. The thing itself became a generic horror movie monster. Aside from the CGI of the film being an offense compared to Rob Bottin's incredible work. But, looking at the effort and the countless ideas they had for the thing, despite not liking this kind of insectoid look, you can see that they were well committed to having their own identity.
There must have been a reason why they replaced it with cgi. If you have good practical effects there is no reason to spend more money going over it all with cgi... something doesn't sit right here and I'd love to know what really happened.
The thing is a dead god Seripis 🌹🌑👍 rest in the good news 🌹 okay bye
Poor movie, and all the great real actual effect people working on it..... sucks they were just, used as a CGI build-off.... stupid director doesn't know what's good for movies for the fans.
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Everything is so pointy...
Excellent practical effects thrown in a CGI dumpster...
These are all amazing designs, and some of them would have been great for the movie, but others are way too overdesigned for the style of the Thing. Like the monster at the end of the movie.
Is this from a book like the ADI books for AVP and AVP-R?
Rob Botin would be proud