Those whistle tones of yours tho! Seriously, your interpretation gave us all chills, so awesome. Really appreciate you taking the time to be a part of this project.
Damn Julian's interpretation felt spot on, especially the swell at the end of the second part. This video was fascinating because I've always thought about music this way. When I was younger I'd close my eyes and visualize 3d structures to represent the songs I'd listen to, and now as an amateur musician I have distinct visual representations in mind for all of my tracks. I've never thought to try going in the other direction, might try it. Thanks for the video levi!
Hi John, thanks for sharing your experience with music perception! I appreciate the comment. I’m curious how many people naturally, intuitively think about music in this way. I know that I do and I’ve always thought of it like that even before I had any training in the stuff. It’s neat to be able to give words to some of these ideas and get a conversation started about how we understand music. It’s an underrated topic for sure.
the way ppl interpret different shapes is so interesting. I don't know much about music, but I do know abt character design and shape language in art and it's really cool to see the similarities. In character design, triangles are energetic and sometimes sinister, circles are bouncy, and squares are grounded and calm.
This is crazy. I'm usually more focused on the emotional aspect of music. This is a whole new realm I didn't know I needed to see. Awesome video, and production quality!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Love that you can approach music from so many angles: emotionally, narratively, scientifically, mathematically, psychologically., etc. I guess it means that there is always more to learn! And that, for me, is very exciting.
Thsi video is really interesting to me, as someone with aphantasia, the lack of the “minds eye”. This helps me better understand how some musicians visualize music. I also play piano and make various songs but i am honestly not sure how I “visualize” music in a different way since I can’t physically do so
It's really awesome to see the spectrum of places creativity can come from across different musicians and artists. Some think narratively, some thing visually, some approach it from a purely sound design perspective. Any style can make truly awesome stuff.
I absolutely can't stand the fact that this video hasn't reached that many people. It is the first time I have watched any of your content and I found this video thanks to your tik tok. It is a very fascinating topic and I think you did a great job explaining what was the aim of your experiment and the research that it was based on. Also I really enjoyed the attention you put into details, the editing is phenomenal and the video and audio quality is amazing. I absolutely loved the part where you created the graph, the camera angles and the slow-motion shots just make it more "artistic" (I don't know how else to put it) and that made me want to watch the video til the end. I think that (and keep in mind that i don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just one random person that saw this video and wanted to share something) it could help to put some music under your voice to keep the attention of the listener, just like you did in the graph part. Also you could stop the music to emphasize some important points of the explaination. I noticed that you follow Adam Neely and I believe that you took some inspiration from him (which is great, he is one the most famous music content creators on YT and he is very good) and one thing that I noticed he does in many of his videos, is that he writes some important words on the screen while he's saying them. I believe he does that to underline the most important aspects of his speech, like some keywords. You did it with shapes and symbols in many parts, like the bouba and kiki part or the whole biomechanical explanation, and it helped me immagine these things and stay focused on the topic. But I think that it would also help to have some words pop up like around minute 4, where we just watch you talk for basically 40/50 seconds. That has also to do with the fact that english is not my first language (I'm italian) and it would really help to have some keywords pop up to not lose the point. I just want to say that probably you already know this stuff and you didn't add so many things over the video to make it less chaotic and confusing, and you did a GREAT job; I can't stress this enough, it is an amazing video and you did manage to find the soft spot between chaotic and boring, so maybe this is absolutely wrong and useless to you but I wanted to share my ideas nonetheless. You just got a new subscriber, keep posting amazing stuff like this
Thank you so much for this kind and thoughtful response. I appreciate the feedback and accept it with open arms! I’ve avoided putting music under my voice this far just due to copyright reasons, but come to think of it I have years worth of instrumental tracks I’ve written that haven’t gone anywhere. I could probably re-purposed them to be part of the video soundtrack. Also agree with the words or graphics. It’s a fine line between being too much and not enough. Thank you for subscribing, I hope my content brings some value to your world!
Each person's interpretation made sense in relation to the graphic composition. I love how they make sense, especially with the verbal responses and yet each is unique.
i think, seeing 3d-structures when you hear music, is a kind of synesthesia. when i first heard of synesthesia, they only said, that people with synesthesia could see colors, when hearing music. so i first thought, i dont have that, because i "only" see shapes. every sound has a certain shape... bass is like blocks, hihats are small stars, pads are long bands... what i also find strange: i perceive high tones as light and cold, and low tones as dark and warm. this also helps me to tune an instrument. (if im not sure wich tune is lower, i see it is the darker one.)
That must be a fascinating experience! I experience images and scenes in my head when I listen to music but nothing that is consistent like how synesthesia presents, as in A minor = Blue or something like that. For me it's different every time. I wonder how common what you experience is in people. Into the depths of Google Scholar I go!
@@LeviMcClain yes, its nice. 😁 especially electronic music triggers the shapes for me. i think it makes me perceive music more intensely. yes, music also triggers inner landscapes for me, for me every intrumentel song also tells a story. i don't know how rarely what i perceive is, i don't know anyone who expiriences the same thing. only one person told me that he perceives instruments as weather (e.g. drums = thunder, guitar = wind, singing = sunshine). also very interesting.
No idea how to make sound from it, but the interpretation I got effectively correlates to the rough stages leading to a meltdown for me: everything’s okay, then something happens, more piles on, and at the end everything gets overwhelming until the breaking point arrives.
the whole video is fascinating and beautiful. all the pieces made are stunning. Thank you for doing all of this. I want to tell you that the Krispy song arrested me, I started crying. It's not the most common thing to start weeping at exercises in the Xenakis vein. For this I thank Krispy extra, truly beautiful and inscrutable, so there's something undeniable to that combo.
you answered a question I always had about bouba and kiki. which was: are people influenced by the name BouBa and KiKi which are spelled with a B which is rounded and a K which is has sharp angles. this really speaks in favor of the onomatopoeia rather than the shape of the letter... but then take that a level further and were the sounds B and K designed to look like the sound is representing? great video and absolutely loved all the compositions.
Wow fantastic observation. That adds an entirely new level to the game. I didn’t even consider that the physical shape of the lettering and Kiki in bouba might have had a roll to play in all of this, but since you pointed it out… now my mind is blown yet again. I wonder how deep that rabbit hole goes?
@@LeviMcClain I guess we need an audio-only study? Or one focused on the illiterate? Of course, if every written language denote these sounds with relatively pointy glyphs, that probably also answers the question.
That first part got to me cuz I got a bandmate who calls the lowest string on a guitar the "top string" because it's physically above all the other strings and I don't know how to explain it to him that guitars are just backwards
I've noticed when giving first lessons to people picking up a guitar or bass that when you refer to "up" or "higher on the neck" there will always be a certain percentage of people who instinctively move in the wrong direction, up towards the headstock. I guess it makes sense in a way, as it is literally higher towards the sky hahaha
Levi, this video is fantastic! You have a unique gift for making traditionally “esoteric” topics accessible and fascinating, like a more interesting David Bruce!!! And when you collaborate I discover so many cool artists as well! I relate to Krispy’s college exercises, it’s fun to improvise with graphic scores. And everyone’s pieces were so cool!!! Krispy’s was my favorite to listen to and Julian’s probably proved your hypothesis the most. What’s the deal with the score itself? Is it named; composed by you? Can one “cover” it if inclined, now that the experimental cat is out of the bag? I would be interested in creating something that supported the hypothesis, and something that went against it on purpose, yet still fit.
Thank you Stephen! I appreciate it. I just try to create the explainers I wish existed for me when I was just learning all of this stuff. The score is not yet named, I drew it up entirely for this video. I can send you over the files for it if you’re interested in covering it! The juxtaposition of doing two pieces with the same score, one that went against the grain, and one that went with it is a really interesting idea! I’d love to see what you could do with it.
I know that this probably wont be seen bc this video is over a year old, but i love this topic and i have asked the very same questions myself as a musician with synesthesia. I have synesthesia that turns sounds into visual things on my minds eye. When I hear music, i am also processing its shapes, colors, and textures as well as the things other people do. But, I have only recently realized i had synesthesia because of the way musicians describe music. We naturally describe it in shapes, colors, and textures, and because of that, I thought that everyone saw what I saw for years. When people described music, to me, it inherrently made sense, even if the descriptors were a little "off" from what i saw - and i rationalized that with "well, maybe they are focusing on different parts of the sound" because to me, sound is so visually complex that there are many different aspects to focus on. But as i started looking into synesthesia, there are not only patterns in how people like me see pitch (higher = lighter in most cases) but also loose patterns in how we see texture and shape of sound too. This matches with how the musicians in your video interpreted the score as well, there were some differences to how i see the sounds, but the overall interpretation made sense. So thank you for making this video - both pointing out the seemingly odd ways we attempt to describe something that is really just controlled air wiggles, and also for confirming that im not crazy, these patterns do exist.
I’ve never seen a graphical score before but your final product was so beautiful and cool. I’d hang it on my wall. Everyone’s interpretation was great! Another amazing video. Thanks for the content 🙏
Great video! I think descriptions for music are more linked to the physical way you play them. If I told someone to "lean into the crunchy notes" while they were playing piano, most pianists would understand intuitively to use more weight and therefore more volume on dissonances, just as saying play this sharply would be more of a short attack. I think an interesting idea would be to see if different instruments interpret an instruction differently, such as saying "play roundly" to a professional musician from each different family of instruments.
I think you’re right, great observation! The physicality of it certainly plays a role. when I’m trying to play “heavier“ I usually lay into my strings a lot more aggressively, which certainly lends to the sound itself.
found this on tiktok and am extremely fascinated ! commenting for engagement because your production quality definitely deserves more views , looking forward to more videos from u
My best friend is totally blind with light perception. She was talking to me about how she can see shapes. Since she couldn't see anything such as shapes she was telling me that her voice is more like wavey lines that are sold but she told me that my voice was dotted wavey lines. I was born legally blind with some usable vision. I wish that I could see how she sees shapes? The fact is that I can see colors and shapes where she would have to feel a physical shape to understand what that shape looks like. Sometimes I feel like she is more advance than me. I sort of feel like I am way behind her and other people who understand her and I will be left out? Are there videos out there that can describe what I am asking and about what my best friend was describing to me how our voices are different but the same?
This has helped me understand what i have only had a sense of. the connection between linguistic, intuitive, and interpretive connections that now have a more (concrete) understanding of something largely so abstract if that manors any sense. Thank you for this journey afforded by this beautifully done exploration. thank you
This is amazing, I’d call this a contribution to the scientific community. This entire channel is VERY underrated. Keep it up! I’m sure this will go somewhere.
I may be deriving the wrong conclusion here but, in a way, even more imprecise language and notation may inspire creative musicians to tap into unexplored things inside them to create beautiful music with less restrictions. To draw the score is to ask open ended questions that can only be answered after some kind of internal struggle to frame it in a way that makes sense to the player himself, as a kind of meditation on music that a musician wont experience when playing symbols he internalized the meaning for. So, in the end, we may not get the music the writer intended or envisioned, but we get music that musicians would not be inspired and able to create otherwise.
Ive been studying science broadly from quantum physics and vortex physics to quantum chroma dynamics and topology and this all matches up even in the subtonality series.
I found this so fascinating to watch, I am fascinated by music and I love the way that the two shape scores resulted in different sounds and interpretations, however none of the ways the the artists made that score into music was the way that I would have done it but I can completely see how and why they came to translate the markings into music the way that they did and I wish I could create it into a piece of music that represents how I see it. I am also just obsessed with the way that the score is presented through the lines and shapes and I can see so many patterns and chords and sounds and dynamics that I would translate it into. for example on the bottom one where the black and white triangles are on the lines and are upside down or the right way up I would see them as sharp three note chords because of the three points and the black ones would be black notes or minor chords and the white ones would be white notes or major chords and whether they were upside down or not would determine whether or not they were played in an ascending or descending way and also how high or low they are on the lines would translate to the pitch of the chords. and again I found this intriguing to watch so thank you :)
I think the amazing thing about graphic scores in general, is that 1000 different musicians could play “the same piece“ and it would sound different every single time. and there is no rigid “correct“ way to play or interpret it, yet we are still able to observe commonalities between each different performance.
4:49 I am struggling to describe pitch in any other that doesn't reference high or low Fast and slow? Because that's how different pitches are created, through slow or fast vibrations.
this is incredibily interesting! As an anthropology student i would LOVE to see how this works across non-occidental cultures, and even, like with the bouba/kiki experiment, with autistic musicians!! fascinating!!! EDIT: Have we thought about color in these scores? i really liked the use of texture and what it evoked in these musicians. Also, we saw a lot of the effect of digital music training in this, what about traditional musicians not trained in digital music!!! oh god this is so interesting
The kiki/bouba effect seems to be PARTIALLY influenced by the subject’s primary language and probably to some extent by writing script-the latter of which would make it not fully crossmodal in association with another visual element. I’m saying this because it makes the subject all the more interesting to me-our brains just want to make stimuli smoothies all day. But apparently even Turkish is one of the languages where the effect has failed to show, and they use a variant Latin alphabet with fairly standard B and K (for the past century anyway) so there’s even more weird cognition possibly at work. Great video.
hello! this video is wonderful! I’m actually studying to be an art teacher, and i’m currently making a lesson plan based on making fictional environments inspired by the students choice of song. I was wondering if I could link this video in my lesson to better help students understand? It perfectly captures what I want to talk about!
I like your vid, but i do wish you talked more about how other cultures might see pitch or other information. Like the idea that a higher frequency is a higher pitch isn’t a universal given, and the assumption that it is feels wrong.
HI! I think I went to HighSchool with you so having you show up in my recommended videos is kindof a trip. So. EYYYYYYYYYYYY Nice to see you. Ok not think. Pretty sure I got a yearbook that proves it.
This is one of the most important videos produced in youtube history. You have answered questions ive had my whole life. wow. LOL listen to this song "KIKI" by Drake. Pitch related to gender in names?
@@LeviMcClain Your work is a stepping stone to the integration of quantum physics, psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, computer science, music etc. But it’s not that important (dialectic)? But you know another man’s trash another man’s treasure lol.
I am very interested in this subject. In fact I have made a number of visualizations of music, in the form of largely abstract music videos. Ive removed a number of them but I have a playlist of 4 here: ruclips.net/p/PLXdULyBkaPQgdMm49aVJ0zmCz7iaWE99v Ive done a lot of research into this subject, and would love to talk to more about it if youd be interested.
It's not arbitrary. "Higher" or "lower" means higher or lower frequency. "Pitch" is just another word for "frequency". That's why the first F is "high" and the second is "low". I shouldn't have to explain this to a musician as this is Music Fundamentals 101.
Hi Tomato 🍅, thanks for your comment. I totally agree, it’s not arbitrary. I even made sure to clarify as much in the video after I said “it may SEEM arbitrary but…” I think you may be getting caught up in semantics here. You can use frequency and pitch interchangeably, the reasoning in the question is unaffected. You can say pitch is understood and named by higher or lower frequency sure, but the heart of the question is still unanswered; why those words specifically? I know it feels pedantic, but pinning down this seemingly intuitive detail with some exact rigor helps lay the foundation that the rest of the video and experiment is built off of. Thank you for engaging!
Thank you for having me be a part of this! And it was so exciting to hear the other perspectives on the same ideas.
Those whistle tones of yours tho! Seriously, your interpretation gave us all chills, so awesome. Really appreciate you taking the time to be a part of this project.
Loved your piece!!
Damn Julian's interpretation felt spot on, especially the swell at the end of the second part. This video was fascinating because I've always thought about music this way. When I was younger I'd close my eyes and visualize 3d structures to represent the songs I'd listen to, and now as an amateur musician I have distinct visual representations in mind for all of my tracks. I've never thought to try going in the other direction, might try it. Thanks for the video levi!
Hi John, thanks for sharing your experience with music perception! I appreciate the comment. I’m curious how many people naturally, intuitively think about music in this way. I know that I do and I’ve always thought of it like that even before I had any training in the stuff. It’s neat to be able to give words to some of these ideas and get a conversation started about how we understand music. It’s an underrated topic for sure.
the way ppl interpret different shapes is so interesting. I don't know much about music, but I do know abt character design and shape language in art and it's really cool to see the similarities. In character design, triangles are energetic and sometimes sinister, circles are bouncy, and squares are grounded and calm.
Thats really interesting! I know nothing about character design but its neat to see the similarities!
Wow, Krispy did a great job too!
This is crazy. I'm usually more focused on the emotional aspect of music. This is a whole new realm I didn't know I needed to see. Awesome video, and production quality!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Love that you can approach music from so many angles: emotionally, narratively, scientifically, mathematically, psychologically., etc. I guess it means that there is always more to learn! And that, for me, is very exciting.
Thsi video is really interesting to me, as someone with aphantasia, the lack of the “minds eye”. This helps me better understand how some musicians visualize music. I also play piano and make various songs but i am honestly not sure how I “visualize” music in a different way since I can’t physically do so
I think next time I will need to pay attention to how I react when writing or listening to music
It's really awesome to see the spectrum of places creativity can come from across different musicians and artists. Some think narratively, some thing visually, some approach it from a purely sound design perspective. Any style can make truly awesome stuff.
I absolutely can't stand the fact that this video hasn't reached that many people. It is the first time I have watched any of your content and I found this video thanks to your tik tok. It is a very fascinating topic and I think you did a great job explaining what was the aim of your experiment and the research that it was based on. Also I really enjoyed the attention you put into details, the editing is phenomenal and the video and audio quality is amazing. I absolutely loved the part where you created the graph, the camera angles and the slow-motion shots just make it more "artistic" (I don't know how else to put it) and that made me want to watch the video til the end.
I think that (and keep in mind that i don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just one random person that saw this video and wanted to share something) it could help to put some music under your voice to keep the attention of the listener, just like you did in the graph part. Also you could stop the music to emphasize some important points of the explaination.
I noticed that you follow Adam Neely and I believe that you took some inspiration from him (which is great, he is one the most famous music content creators on YT and he is very good) and one thing that I noticed he does in many of his videos, is that he writes some important words on the screen while he's saying them. I believe he does that to underline the most important aspects of his speech, like some keywords. You did it with shapes and symbols in many parts, like the bouba and kiki part or the whole biomechanical explanation, and it helped me immagine these things and stay focused on the topic. But I think that it would also help to have some words pop up like around minute 4, where we just watch you talk for basically 40/50 seconds. That has also to do with the fact that english is not my first language (I'm italian) and it would really help to have some keywords pop up to not lose the point.
I just want to say that probably you already know this stuff and you didn't add so many things over the video to make it less chaotic and confusing, and you did a GREAT job; I can't stress this enough, it is an amazing video and you did manage to find the soft spot between chaotic and boring, so maybe this is absolutely wrong and useless to you but I wanted to share my ideas nonetheless.
You just got a new subscriber, keep posting amazing stuff like this
Thank you so much for this kind and thoughtful response. I appreciate the feedback and accept it with open arms! I’ve avoided putting music under my voice this far just due to copyright reasons, but come to think of it I have years worth of instrumental tracks I’ve written that haven’t gone anywhere. I could probably re-purposed them to be part of the video soundtrack. Also agree with the words or graphics. It’s a fine line between being too much and not enough. Thank you for subscribing, I hope my content brings some value to your world!
Do you know why it hasn't reached most people, I think you probably know why...
MAYSUNs interpretation was. Breathtaking.
He's such an incredible musician, always blown away by him.
Each person's interpretation made sense in relation to the graphic composition. I love how they make sense, especially with the verbal responses and yet each is unique.
Thats what makes graphic scores so awesome, 1000 different musicians can play the same score and all sound wildly different.
Superb interpretation Maysun!
i think, seeing 3d-structures when you hear music, is a kind of synesthesia. when i first heard of synesthesia, they only said, that people with synesthesia could see colors, when hearing music. so i first thought, i dont have that, because i "only" see shapes. every sound has a certain shape... bass is like blocks, hihats are small stars, pads are long bands...
what i also find strange: i perceive high tones as light and cold, and low tones as dark and warm. this also helps me to tune an instrument. (if im not sure wich tune is lower, i see it is the darker one.)
That must be a fascinating experience! I experience images and scenes in my head when I listen to music but nothing that is consistent like how synesthesia presents, as in A minor = Blue or something like that. For me it's different every time. I wonder how common what you experience is in people. Into the depths of Google Scholar I go!
@@LeviMcClain yes, its nice. 😁 especially electronic music triggers the shapes for me. i think it makes me perceive music more intensely. yes, music also triggers inner landscapes for me, for me every intrumentel song also tells a story. i don't know how rarely what i perceive is, i don't know anyone who expiriences the same thing. only one person told me that he perceives instruments as weather (e.g. drums = thunder, guitar = wind, singing = sunshine). also very interesting.
No idea how to make sound from it, but the interpretation I got effectively correlates to the rough stages leading to a meltdown for me: everything’s okay, then something happens, more piles on, and at the end everything gets overwhelming until the breaking point arrives.
Interpretation through emotions, I like it!
Great job Julian!
the whole video is fascinating and beautiful. all the pieces made are stunning. Thank you for doing all of this. I want to tell you that the Krispy song arrested me, I started crying. It's not the most common thing to start weeping at exercises in the Xenakis vein. For this I thank Krispy extra, truly beautiful and inscrutable, so there's something undeniable to that combo.
Really enjoyed this video. Currently researching topics for a capstone project and this video has helped me a lot. Thanks 🙏
I’d love to hear what all three sound like together! This is such a cool experiment
Thanks! That would sound wild I bet
you answered a question I always had about bouba and kiki. which was: are people influenced by the name BouBa and KiKi which are spelled with a B which is rounded and a K which is has sharp angles. this really speaks in favor of the onomatopoeia rather than the shape of the letter... but then take that a level further and were the sounds B and K designed to look like the sound is representing? great video and absolutely loved all the compositions.
Wow fantastic observation. That adds an entirely new level to the game. I didn’t even consider that the physical shape of the lettering and Kiki in bouba might have had a roll to play in all of this, but since you pointed it out… now my mind is blown yet again. I wonder how deep that rabbit hole goes?
@@LeviMcClain I guess we need an audio-only study? Or one focused on the illiterate? Of course, if every written language denote these sounds with relatively pointy glyphs, that probably also answers the question.
That first part got to me cuz I got a bandmate who calls the lowest string on a guitar the "top string" because it's physically above all the other strings and I don't know how to explain it to him that guitars are just backwards
I've noticed when giving first lessons to people picking up a guitar or bass that when you refer to "up" or "higher on the neck" there will always be a certain percentage of people who instinctively move in the wrong direction, up towards the headstock. I guess it makes sense in a way, as it is literally higher towards the sky hahaha
Levi, this video is fantastic! You have a unique gift for making traditionally “esoteric” topics accessible and fascinating, like a more interesting David Bruce!!! And when you collaborate I discover so many cool artists as well! I relate to Krispy’s college exercises, it’s fun to improvise with graphic scores. And everyone’s pieces were so cool!!! Krispy’s was my favorite to listen to and Julian’s probably proved your hypothesis the most.
What’s the deal with the score itself? Is it named; composed by you? Can one “cover” it if inclined, now that the experimental cat is out of the bag? I would be interested in creating something that supported the hypothesis, and something that went against it on purpose, yet still fit.
Thank you Stephen! I appreciate it. I just try to create the explainers I wish existed for me when I was just learning all of this stuff. The score is not yet named, I drew it up entirely for this video. I can send you over the files for it if you’re interested in covering it! The juxtaposition of doing two pieces with the same score, one that went against the grain, and one that went with it is a really interesting idea! I’d love to see what you could do with it.
I know that this probably wont be seen bc this video is over a year old, but i love this topic and i have asked the very same questions myself as a musician with synesthesia.
I have synesthesia that turns sounds into visual things on my minds eye. When I hear music, i am also processing its shapes, colors, and textures as well as the things other people do. But, I have only recently realized i had synesthesia because of the way musicians describe music. We naturally describe it in shapes, colors, and textures, and because of that, I thought that everyone saw what I saw for years.
When people described music, to me, it inherrently made sense, even if the descriptors were a little "off" from what i saw - and i rationalized that with "well, maybe they are focusing on different parts of the sound" because to me, sound is so visually complex that there are many different aspects to focus on. But as i started looking into synesthesia, there are not only patterns in how people like me see pitch (higher = lighter in most cases) but also loose patterns in how we see texture and shape of sound too. This matches with how the musicians in your video interpreted the score as well, there were some differences to how i see the sounds, but the overall interpretation made sense.
So thank you for making this video - both pointing out the seemingly odd ways we attempt to describe something that is really just controlled air wiggles, and also for confirming that im not crazy, these patterns do exist.
I’m definitely more on the story interpretation side of isle. I think it also illustrates the artists creativity more clearly.
For sure! I guess the approaches illustrate how everyone thinks differently about the same idea
I found you from tiktok. I LOVE stuff like this. I’m an artist but I also love music and this stuff ALWAYS makes me think of Fantasia!!
Thanks for the support! I appreciate your kind words!!
I’ve never seen a graphical score before but your final product was so beautiful and cool. I’d hang it on my wall. Everyone’s interpretation was great! Another amazing video. Thanks for the content 🙏
This channel has an unbelievable amount of potential, such interesting topics! I’m excited to see where this goes
Appreciate it! I have a lot of stuff in the works for the channel that I hope to share more of soon.
i remember when vsauce did a bit on the kiki and bouba images a while back, great video!
I haven't seen his, I'll have to go check it out! Thank you!
Great video!
I think descriptions for music are more linked to the physical way you play them.
If I told someone to "lean into the crunchy notes" while they were playing piano, most pianists would understand intuitively to use more weight and therefore more volume on dissonances, just as saying play this sharply would be more of a short attack. I think an interesting idea would be to see if different instruments interpret an instruction differently, such as saying "play roundly" to a professional musician from each different family of instruments.
I think you’re right, great observation! The physicality of it certainly plays a role. when I’m trying to play “heavier“ I usually lay into my strings a lot more aggressively, which certainly lends to the sound itself.
found this on tiktok and am extremely fascinated ! commenting for engagement because your production quality definitely deserves more views , looking forward to more videos from u
Thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed it
My best friend is totally blind with light perception. She was talking to me about how she can see shapes. Since she couldn't see anything such as shapes she was telling me that her voice is more like wavey lines that are sold but she told me that my voice was dotted wavey lines. I was born legally blind with some usable vision. I wish that I could see how she sees shapes? The fact is that I can see colors and shapes where she would have to feel a physical shape to understand what that shape looks like. Sometimes I feel like she is more advance than me. I sort of feel like I am way behind her and other people who understand her and I will be left out? Are there videos out there that can describe what I am asking and about what my best friend was describing to me how our voices are different but the same?
I am studying how sounds, syllables and music affect the human soul. This was most useful in my research. Thank you for this information.
such an awesome concept for a video!!! keep up thr good content
Thank you so much! I will keep up the good fight!
I just made a video about musical shapes and how I like them to tessellate! excited for this :)
Just watched it! Really great video, I love the symmetrical idea in your lines.
This has helped me understand what i have only had a sense
of. the connection between linguistic, intuitive, and interpretive connections that now have a more (concrete) understanding of something largely so abstract if that manors any sense. Thank you for this journey afforded by this beautifully done exploration. thank you
This is amazing, I’d call this a contribution to the scientific community. This entire channel is VERY underrated. Keep it up! I’m sure this will go somewhere.
Thanks so much! I hope we can get some actual studies on this one day!
I may be deriving the wrong conclusion here but, in a way, even more imprecise language and notation may inspire creative musicians to tap into unexplored things inside them to create beautiful music with less restrictions. To draw the score is to ask open ended questions that can only be answered after some kind of internal struggle to frame it in a way that makes sense to the player himself, as a kind of meditation on music that a musician wont experience when playing symbols he internalized the meaning for.
So, in the end, we may not get the music the writer intended or envisioned, but we get music that musicians would not be inspired and able to create otherwise.
Ive been studying science broadly from quantum physics and vortex physics to quantum chroma dynamics and topology and this all matches up even in the subtonality series.
156 likes and two weeks ago? This deserves at least like 100k views
I wish! Maybe in a couple years I'll be doing those numbers if I'm lucky! Thank you!
1:25 runaway starts playing
Very interesting idea! And I love being introduced to these amazing artists!
Thank you! These guys are what made this video great. Love all of their work.
I found this so fascinating to watch, I am fascinated by music and I love the way that the two shape scores resulted in different sounds and interpretations, however none of the ways the the artists made that score into music was the way that I would have done it but I can completely see how and why they came to translate the markings into music the way that they did and I wish I could create it into a piece of music that represents how I see it.
I am also just obsessed with the way that the score is presented through the lines and shapes and I can see so many patterns and chords and sounds and dynamics that I would translate it into. for example on the bottom one where the black and white triangles are on the lines and are upside down or the right way up I would see them as sharp three note chords because of the three points and the black ones would be black notes or minor chords and the white ones would be white notes or major chords and whether they were upside down or not would determine whether or not they were played in an ascending or descending way and also how high or low they are on the lines would translate to the pitch of the chords.
and again I found this intriguing to watch so thank you :)
I think the amazing thing about graphic scores in general, is that 1000 different musicians could play “the same piece“ and it would sound different every single time. and there is no rigid “correct“ way to play or interpret it, yet we are still able to observe commonalities between each different performance.
Loved this video is a great dive into perception that i hope people will watch
Thank you! I hope so too hahaha
4:49 I am struggling to describe pitch in any other that doesn't reference high or low
Fast and slow? Because that's how different pitches are created, through slow or fast vibrations.
Nice! I didn’t think of that. Definitely a great way to go about it, and more than that a more true to source way of conceptualizing it.
this is incredibily interesting! As an anthropology student i would LOVE to see how this works across non-occidental cultures, and even, like with the bouba/kiki experiment, with autistic musicians!! fascinating!!! EDIT: Have we thought about color in these scores? i really liked the use of texture and what it evoked in these musicians. Also, we saw a lot of the effect of digital music training in this, what about traditional musicians not trained in digital music!!! oh god this is so interesting
They were all interesting but Julian’s was definitely the most appealing
Julian is the bomb dot com
The kiki/bouba effect seems to be PARTIALLY influenced by the subject’s primary language and probably to some extent by writing script-the latter of which would make it not fully crossmodal in association with another visual element. I’m saying this because it makes the subject all the more interesting to me-our brains just want to make stimuli smoothies all day. But apparently even Turkish is one of the languages where the effect has failed to show, and they use a variant Latin alphabet with fairly standard B and K (for the past century anyway) so there’s even more weird cognition possibly at work. Great video.
hello! this video is wonderful! I’m actually studying to be an art teacher, and i’m currently making a lesson plan based on making fictional environments inspired by the students choice of song. I was wondering if I could link this video in my lesson to better help students understand? It perfectly captures what I want to talk about!
Please do! I know I'm responding a little late, but if you haven't done your lesson yet, please feel free to use this!
this deserves more likes
I appreciate that!
Thank you for this. Hard to believe you only have 1.25k subs. Only a matter of time till 1million subs 🙏🙏
I like your vid, but i do wish you talked more about how other cultures might see pitch or other information. Like the idea that a higher frequency is a higher pitch isn’t a universal given, and the assumption that it is feels wrong.
HI! I think I went to HighSchool with you so having you show up in my recommended videos is kindof a trip. So. EYYYYYYYYYYYY Nice to see you.
Ok not think. Pretty sure I got a yearbook that proves it.
Your music, your art just magnificient
got yourself a new sub here
hails from drauglur from germany
I really appreciate that! Danke!!
Excellent research!
Thank you! Appreciate your viewership!
This is one of the most important videos produced in youtube history. You have answered questions ive had my whole life. wow. LOL listen to this song "KIKI" by Drake. Pitch related to gender in names?
Well thank you!! Don't know it its that important, but thank you all the same!
@@LeviMcClain Your work is a stepping stone to the integration of quantum physics, psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, computer science, music etc. But it’s not that important (dialectic)? But you know another man’s trash another man’s treasure lol.
I could relate with Julian's interpretation the most. I follow him on Instagram, and now I know why I gravitated towards him and followed him: LOTR.
LOTR for life! I did a short music theory video on the shire a while ago and want so bad to do a full deep dive into it.
I love Julian's approach best, I guess I get it more than I get the other two. Then again I am drummer so that could have something to do with it.
Fantastic video
Thank you!!
Heck yeah Levi, this is awesome!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
This was really helpful to understand my synesthesia, thank you ❤
Coolest video I’ve seen this year!
WOW! This is fascinating! Thank you, and Happy Easter. May God bless all of us his children!
1:52
Thats a 16-edo piano
Amazing
well, my baby loved this
very good nothing else to say
wait wtf this seemed like a veritasium video or something in terms of production quality why do you have 870 subs?
Thanks for the comparison!! I hope to have half the quality and thought Derek puts into those videos one day. Until then, I’ll keep trucking along!
I am very interested in this subject. In fact I have made a number of visualizations of music, in the form of largely abstract music videos.
Ive removed a number of them but I have a playlist of 4 here: ruclips.net/p/PLXdULyBkaPQgdMm49aVJ0zmCz7iaWE99v
Ive done a lot of research into this subject, and would love to talk to more about it if youd be interested.
I kind of want to hear them overlayed
The Imagery is just like NASA Gold Disk we sent to space. At least thats what it reminds me of......
I hope I didnt miss something here
that dude is right too, it looks like a map of middle earth
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It's not arbitrary.
"Higher" or "lower" means higher or lower frequency. "Pitch" is just another word for "frequency".
That's why the first F is "high" and the second is "low".
I shouldn't have to explain this to a musician as this is Music Fundamentals 101.
Hi Tomato 🍅, thanks for your comment. I totally agree, it’s not arbitrary. I even made sure to clarify as much in the video after I said “it may SEEM arbitrary but…”
I think you may be getting caught up in semantics here. You can use frequency and pitch interchangeably, the reasoning in the question is unaffected. You can say pitch is understood and named by higher or lower frequency sure, but the heart of the question is still unanswered; why those words specifically?
I know it feels pedantic, but pinning down this seemingly intuitive detail with some exact rigor helps lay the foundation that the rest of the video and experiment is built off of.
Thank you for engaging!
i wanna like the vid but its at 444
Fair. Gotta keep that balance
media hora de video? hacete dar!