Maybe you guys did it but just didn't show it, but go ahead and bleed the crap out of the brake fluid too. VW/Audi recommends doing it as often as every two years and you can bet your secondhand car has not had that done. It should really change the pedal feel if its vague or squishy at all. If nothing else its a good compliment to the $$$ brake setup and will ensure you're getting everything out of it. If you go the powerbleeder route... good luck finding the right cap adapter for the reservoir!
I have the passat. Brakes seemed fine, but vw recommended brake fluid replacement. Couldn’t believe the difference. Brake bite solved. New touareg arrives this weekend Mk2 2018. Can’t wait.
I have a 2014 Touareg. I recently changed the brakes and was surprised to find them only 50% worn. The wear indicator light had come up on the dash and all wear indicators were worn and broke on changing the pads, even though I was really careful. I'm debating on whether or not to replace them, or just to short them out. I wasn't aware that there was a brake disc upgrade. That would be something to consider next time I change the brakes, but I haven't found them to be a problem. Thanks for the video.
I must be the only human that likes wheel bolts. I think it’s awesome because if you wanna run aftermarket wheels with a lower offset, you can go purchase longer wheel bolts and you’re done. When you wanna throw your stock wheels back on, just use the original bolts With you wanna run a lower offset wheel and you have wheel studs, you gotta disassemble the brake system and beat the old studs out. Then install new longer one and assemble everything back. Then you want to put your oem wheels back on for winter and you got these massive studs sticking out looking all mad max like.
No, it's not just you. I don't get why they bitch and moan about wheel bolts all the time. I guess they never heard of wheel hangers... in fact I'm pretty sure Touaregs come with them in the spare tire tool kit. Thread it in, slide the wheel on and then remove before installing the last wheel bolt. Easy peasy.
@@logmegadeth72 They do. If it's missing, you can order one for a couple bucks. I never use mine; it's not that hard. I also don't get the need for studs.
I prefer the OEM “premium” Rotors on my Passat solely because my wife and I drive infrequently and we both have a problem with the rotors rotting after only one winter. The dealer told me they do not sell many but I prefer the plated coating especially on the fronts because of corrosion staring in the cooling fins and moving to the rest of the rotor. They are twice as durable due to the fact they are plated in our app. I find the OEM stuff to be very good but do realize you are selling your frequently used product and are into performance. On the subject of ride harshness. The 20” tires on the Toureg are a known bug for many. Going down a rim size and up a profile size to maintain oem diameter will smooth out that ride at the price of turn in roll on that higher sidewall profile. I won’t buy a Toureg with 20” rims for that reason because of that known issue. But then I’m an old fart but not ready to drive a Buick yet but close!
I notice the breaks on my 150TDI a lil mushy. Nice to see the difference! My 150TDI has 400nm torque, now I’m from Bellingham but have lived in Aus since I was 23 and I’m 33 now and back in Bellingham, my T’Reg is sitting pretty in my garage for 9 months down under... so I really only understand NM
lol @ the end credits scene... yeah they're brembo, in fact a common budget big brake upgrade is to use those front calipers on smaller Audi/VW vehicles, they bolt right up to the spindle.
I almost thought you put the rotors on the wrong side of the car but I apparently StopTech has their slots going in the opposite direction of the cooling vanes.
If you replace the rims, make sure you get weight rated rims and tires for towing. A lot of those China rims bend easily when you put weight on them and hit pot holes.
i got tired of replacing OEM brakes/pads every 50k kms and having black brake dust constantly coating my Touareg wheels. So i went with after market discs and ceramic pads. no dust, poor pedal feel and longer braking distance as compared to OEM. they feel like they are so hard they will last a long time. despite dirty wheels and more frequent replacement, better braking has me leaning towards OEM next time. A word on tires- serious All Terrain Tires, such as Nitto Grapplers, feel more truck like and keep my winters and summer tires in the garage. Bought the Nittos after a friend with Nittos ran circles around me on snow and ice, with my Michelin X-Ice winters. Stiff sidewalls and a little less fuel economy but great for year round use.
Question: How did you find the pad wear with the slotted rotors, was there a significant increase in the speed that they wore out and needed replacement?
I ordered those same brakes for my touareg here in canada (amazon.ca) Never shipped. Where did you guys get them from? Been searching all over! I can find all sorts of drilled rotors which I'm not a fan of... Should I just grab some drilled as that is what seems available?
Pretty sure you fitted those front rotors on the wrong side. Most rotors come with instructions that will tell you which way the grooves should be faced and usually that's so the debris is thrown away from the centre of the disk.
Etiquette in the left lane vs bandits staying in the fast lane and driving slowly: #1 you just approach like you mean business, with a high delta they should notice you and pull to the right and let you pass. Lingering there (tailgating) is not a good idea for an extended period of time this is a message not a way of driving #2 if they do not notice you flash very briefly just to say hi, I am here, maybe you did not notice me #2 nice gesture follow-up: if they let you pass flash 4way amber indicators once saying thank you #3 if they still stay then flash them longer / repeatedly, conveying annoyance #3 nice gesture: if they let you pass flash 4way amber indicators once saying thank you - defuse the situation you just wanted to pass and eventually they did let you no need not to confuse them with kindness now #4 if they still do not let you pass, pass them on the right and be on your way #4 optional: as you pass them honk briefly to express your disdain for the danger they put everyone in with their driving there is no point in thanking them as they did not let you pass on the left safely, they forced you into two unnecessary moves What to watch for: if they have someone lame in front of them, if they are stuck passing multiple trucks, if they would not have space to pull to the right then there is no point in doing any of this if they cannot do a better job physically then they just cannot do a better job let them be What else to watch for: general driving behavior, maybe catch a glimpse of who they are maybe they are older people, etc you want to be kind if there is a reason for them driving less dynamically. If would be nice if they did that slow driving on the right so flashing is ok, honking can be skipped. Additional rule: you cannot be angry at someone driving slowly on the right. That is where they should be doing that maybe they have cargo maybe they have something broken in the vehicle does not matter if they are limping in the slow lane that is good that is where they need to do that stuff. Appreciate it that they are in the right lane for that. If you are stuck behind them in the slow lane, well, get into the fast lane and pass. What to avoid: don't overtake on the right and then pull in front and brake. You do not want to brake test someone who has already extensively proven bad driving skills to you. Let them be. You passed them you can go now. If they do not understand the short honk, the problem they caused, then that is the end of the story. You are not their driver's educator, you are not the police, you should not do this. You are actually creating more danger on the road. There was a slow car in the fast lane now there is an even slower car in the fast lane. Also, this can get personal it can develop into a road rage incident etc etc. DON'T DO IT. Just ... don't. Not worth it. Passed them, let it go. They are someone else's problem now. They are behind you. You are free to go.
I think flashing and holding the horn on the driver in front of you hogging the left lane is much much safer and smarter than tailgating a likely inattentive/unaware driver. If a deafening vW horn or blinding high beams doesn’t get them to wake up and move it’s a lost cause
Question: I am needing to replace the brakes on my Touareg as well and was thinking about going with a similar setup. Do I need to replace brake sensors as well?
I don't know who manufactures the Brembo stuff sold in the States/Canada but I have to say their products sold in Europe have had quite a bad reputation for the last couple years. Even the genuine Brembo products sourced through certified dealers are riddled with common defects and so they're on the avoid at all costs list of most car enthusiasts I've come across. It could be entirely different overseas but I personally lost faith in the company. I'd choose StopTech or EBC over them any time.
9:00 Those rotors aren't that big, especially given the weight of the vehicle. 11:00 I'm fairly certain that's tailgating prior to the start of a sporting event. :P Flashing someone with your highbeams is proper ettiquitte to inform people that you would like to pass.
wonderful getting so much SA this week. thanks for all the great content
Maybe you guys did it but just didn't show it, but go ahead and bleed the crap out of the brake fluid too. VW/Audi recommends doing it as often as every two years and you can bet your secondhand car has not had that done. It should really change the pedal feel if its vague or squishy at all. If nothing else its a good compliment to the $$$ brake setup and will ensure you're getting everything out of it. If you go the powerbleeder route... good luck finding the right cap adapter for the reservoir!
Tom Ingebrigtsen I thought exactly the same!🙈
Porsche cap fits my GTI for my motive bleeder. Likely the same here.
I have the passat. Brakes seemed fine, but vw recommended brake fluid replacement. Couldn’t believe the difference. Brake bite solved. New touareg arrives this weekend Mk2 2018. Can’t wait.
I have a 2014 Touareg. I recently changed the brakes and was surprised to find them only 50% worn. The wear indicator light had come up on the dash and all wear indicators were worn and broke on changing the pads, even though I was really careful. I'm debating on whether or not to replace them, or just to short them out. I wasn't aware that there was a brake disc upgrade. That would be something to consider next time I change the brakes, but I haven't found them to be a problem. Thanks for the video.
I wish I had friends like you guys that would let me use their shop. It really seems like you enjoy this.
I have one of these great vehicles, love this series of vids !!
I must be the only human that likes wheel bolts. I think it’s awesome because if you wanna run aftermarket wheels with a lower offset, you can go purchase longer wheel bolts and you’re done. When you wanna throw your stock wheels back on, just use the original bolts
With you wanna run a lower offset wheel and you have wheel studs, you gotta disassemble the brake system and beat the old studs out. Then install new longer one and assemble everything back. Then you want to put your oem wheels back on for winter and you got these massive studs sticking out looking all mad max like.
No, it's not just you. I don't get why they bitch and moan about wheel bolts all the time. I guess they never heard of wheel hangers... in fact I'm pretty sure Touaregs come with them in the spare tire tool kit. Thread it in, slide the wheel on and then remove before installing the last wheel bolt. Easy peasy.
@@logmegadeth72 They do. If it's missing, you can order one for a couple bucks. I never use mine; it's not that hard. I also don't get the need for studs.
You did the Parking brake "Grinding In" Procedure after replacing the rear rotors, right? As per the shop manual. Vag-Com or similar needed to do it.
I prefer the OEM “premium” Rotors on my Passat solely because my wife and I drive infrequently and we both have a problem with the rotors rotting after only one winter. The dealer told me they do not sell many but I prefer the plated coating especially on the fronts because of corrosion staring in the cooling fins and moving to the rest of the rotor. They are twice as durable due to the fact they are plated in our app. I find the OEM stuff to be very good but do realize you are selling your frequently used product and are into performance. On the subject of ride harshness. The 20” tires on the Toureg are a known bug for many. Going down a rim size and up a profile size to maintain oem diameter will smooth out that ride at the price of turn in roll on that higher sidewall profile. I won’t buy a Toureg with 20” rims for that reason because of that known issue. But then I’m an old fart but not ready to drive a Buick yet but close!
I notice the breaks on my 150TDI a lil mushy. Nice to see the difference! My 150TDI has 400nm torque, now I’m from Bellingham but have lived in Aus since I was 23 and I’m 33 now and back in Bellingham, my T’Reg is sitting pretty in my garage for 9 months down under... so I really only understand NM
Awesome video! Just got a 2017 Wolfsburg Touareg that needs brakes, this was extremely informative.
Also, the left lane chat at the end -- one of the most Canadian discussions I've ever heard!
My 2016 V6 brakes feel just fine. Front rotors and pads were replaced last yr at 35k but braking is pretty decent with OEM parts
Did you notice the notorious 'Steering Wheel Shake' issue on your Touareg? And if so, did the stud conversion help get rid of it ?
lol @ the end credits scene... yeah they're brembo, in fact a common budget big brake upgrade is to use those front calipers on smaller Audi/VW vehicles, they bolt right up to the spindle.
Hope you replaced the caliper bolts, they're torque to yield. So one time use only. Great video, I can't wait to see more.
I have this exact same issue with my ML350. I will look into a Stoptech brake kit for mine too.
I went with Stoptech's on a C350. Really nice rotors. My mistake was in not replacing the wear sensors.
I would bleed the brakes right away. ATE SL6 is what I used on my Touareg. I also got the Schwaben brake bleeder.
I almost thought you put the rotors on the wrong side of the car but I apparently StopTech has their slots going in the opposite direction of the cooling vanes.
If you replace the rims, make sure you get weight rated rims and tires for towing. A lot of those China rims bend easily when you put weight on them and hit pot holes.
Bending is not the worst, thats actually the best in such situation. Chinese rims tend to crack, thats when it gets tricky.
@@Capajebo true, loosing all the air pressure in the tires all at once is a bad time, been there, done that
i got tired of replacing OEM brakes/pads every 50k kms and having black brake dust constantly coating my Touareg wheels. So i went with after market discs and ceramic pads. no dust, poor pedal feel and longer braking distance as compared to OEM. they feel like they are so hard they will last a long time. despite dirty wheels and more frequent replacement, better braking has me leaning towards OEM next time. A word on tires- serious All Terrain Tires, such as Nitto Grapplers, feel more truck like and keep my winters and summer tires in the garage. Bought the Nittos after a friend with Nittos ran circles around me on snow and ice, with my Michelin X-Ice winters. Stiff sidewalls and a little less fuel economy but great for year round use.
Hopefully soon I can afford stop tech brakes for the builds on my channel!!
Brakes are always cool to upgrade
Stainless steel brake lines would be a good addition to that pkg !!!
4 piston in the rear? How many up front?
David Bruton 6 piston up front
Why did you replace the OEM wheel bolts with studs and nuts?
I have 2012 Touareg TDI and I was wondering what it cost you to get the rotors and pads and where you bought them from.
Thanks
Does Touareg use R14 or R13 ball seat? Rennline's R13 nuts do not come in black zinc, so wondering which one's you have on here.
How are those breaks doing, are you still satisfied with them...?
Question: How did you find the pad wear with the slotted rotors, was there a significant increase in the speed that they wore out and needed replacement?
no steel braided lines and fresh brake fluid... ?
You are amazing guys
What is your phone mount to hold the phone??? Please!
Why use slotted rotors instead of flat ones? I heard they reduce pad life and don't give any advantages in normal street driving.
I ordered those same brakes for my touareg here in canada (amazon.ca) Never shipped. Where did you guys get them from? Been searching all over! I can find all sorts of drilled rotors which I'm not a fan of... Should I just grab some drilled as that is what seems available?
Trevor Rea-Stewart I was able to buy Stop Tech discs from ECS Tuning website.
Pretty sure you fitted those front rotors on the wrong side. Most rotors come with instructions that will tell you which way the grooves should be faced and usually that's so the debris is thrown away from the centre of the disk.
Great SUV. German engineering at its finest.
Etiquette in the left lane vs bandits staying in the fast lane and driving slowly:
#1 you just approach like you mean business, with a high delta they should notice you and pull to the right and let you pass.
Lingering there (tailgating) is not a good idea for an extended period of time this is a message not a way of driving
#2 if they do not notice you flash very briefly just to say hi, I am here, maybe you did not notice me
#2 nice gesture follow-up: if they let you pass flash 4way amber indicators once saying thank you
#3 if they still stay then flash them longer / repeatedly, conveying annoyance
#3 nice gesture: if they let you pass flash 4way amber indicators once saying thank you - defuse the situation
you just wanted to pass and eventually they did let you no need not to confuse them with kindness now
#4 if they still do not let you pass, pass them on the right and be on your way
#4 optional: as you pass them honk briefly to express your disdain for the danger they put everyone in with their driving
there is no point in thanking them as they did not let you pass on the left safely, they forced you into two unnecessary moves
What to watch for: if they have someone lame in front of them, if they are stuck passing multiple trucks, if they would not have space to pull to the right then there is no point in doing any of this if they cannot do a better job physically then they just cannot do a better job let them be
What else to watch for: general driving behavior, maybe catch a glimpse of who they are maybe they are older people, etc you want to be kind if there is a reason for them driving less dynamically. If would be nice if they did that slow driving on the right so flashing is ok, honking can be skipped.
Additional rule: you cannot be angry at someone driving slowly on the right. That is where they should be doing that maybe they have cargo maybe they have something broken in the vehicle does not matter if they are limping in the slow lane that is good that is where they need to do that stuff. Appreciate it that they are in the right lane for that. If you are stuck behind them in the slow lane, well, get into the fast lane and pass.
What to avoid: don't overtake on the right and then pull in front and brake. You do not want to brake test someone who has already extensively proven bad driving skills to you. Let them be. You passed them you can go now. If they do not understand the short honk, the problem they caused, then that is the end of the story. You are not their driver's educator, you are not the police, you should not do this. You are actually creating more danger on the road. There was a slow car in the fast lane now there is an even slower car in the fast lane. Also, this can get personal it can develop into a road rage incident etc etc. DON'T DO IT. Just ... don't. Not worth it. Passed them, let it go. They are someone else's problem now. They are behind you. You are free to go.
I think flashing and holding the horn on the driver in front of you hogging the left lane is much much safer and smarter than tailgating a likely inattentive/unaware driver. If a deafening vW horn or blinding high beams doesn’t get them to wake up and move it’s a lost cause
LOL .. different type of Tailgate hahaha
I wonder if PT is talking about the same type of flashing I think he is
ITS TWAREGG. ITS FRENCH!!!
Question: I am needing to replace the brakes on my Touareg as well and was thinking about going with a similar setup. Do I need to replace brake sensors as well?
Only if you break them during removal. They can be tricky to get out depending on the climate in your area.
Do u have any good recommendation of any good shops in ontario canada
Will I be seeing you guys at CSCS this year?
What length studs did you guys use?
Maybe some stainless steel brake lines up next?
What about replacing/upgrading the calipers or is it not as important...?
Calipers are already large enough
smashed it ten times!!
I got a dipstick from a Q7 and it fits, but the min-max level, not the same as on a computer tho
They mean tailgating at sports games not on the roads lmao
I don't know who manufactures the Brembo stuff sold in the States/Canada but I have to say their products sold in Europe have had quite a bad reputation for the last couple years. Even the genuine Brembo products sourced through certified dealers are riddled with common defects and so they're on the avoid at all costs list of most car enthusiasts I've come across. It could be entirely different overseas but I personally lost faith in the company. I'd choose StopTech or EBC over them any time.
Where's the Malone Tune video?
Great video as always gents.👍. What is the verdict on that rear right tire with the nail, REPLACE OR REPAIR ?
Get some BBK going bro
It's always breaks when I was working at the dealership that's all they changed
Put the behemoth on the track!
People saying Too-regg is too damn high.
I used stop tech on my touareg and they suck should've got EBC
change the brake fluid and bypass the brake pad wear sensors and theres nothing wrong with your wheels
You should have keep the Touareg.
I thought for sure the check engine code for cylinder 5 was for this vW, not the poor bmw 🤣
9:00 Those rotors aren't that big, especially given the weight of the vehicle.
11:00 I'm fairly certain that's tailgating prior to the start of a sporting event. :P Flashing someone with your highbeams is proper ettiquitte to inform people that you would like to pass.
Etcg doppelganger
Take it off-roading!
Put a lift kit on it!
Caveat Emptor…
Don’t tailgate and enjoy less drama with braking. Just renew the OEM brakes and they work fine. It is an SUV, not a track car. Drive it like an SUV.
Pointless video. All talk no show...