@@mavjimbo I disagree, people have BASE jumped the WTC, yes there is a significant chance of dying anyway but someone experienced in skydiving could survive.
I am really glad these attacks did not happen in the current day, there would be so much horrific footage from live-streaming etc, nobody wants to see their loved ones like that in their final moments
Well, algorithms on YT, Instagram and FB are good enough to delete that. So, live - yes, in record - no. Maybe, on Telegram and Reddit we would see something, since their policy ain't so strict.
If I worked in a skyscraper I would take base jumping lessons and keep a parachute under my desk. I would rather take my life into my own hands than wait around to see if I get rescued.
The helicopter pilots who had flown above the buildings to attempt a rooftop rescue said that the south tower had too much smoke and was out of play, and that there was a small opening on the northwest corner of the north tower where they maybe could have rescued people, but no one was up there. I believe there were phone call accounts as well from people in the south tower that had made it to the top but could not break open the door to reach the roof. Maybe this happened in both towers. Not sure what the protocol was for keeping those doors locked, but in hindsight it's obviously terrible to think about.
Both tower roofs were locked and there was no way to open them. People in both towers tried accessing the roof but the doors were locked. I read somewhere that the doors to the roofs were opened at roughly 9:30am each day, of course both towers had already been hit by then so the people who typically opened the roof doors never had a chance to do so. The roof doors operated by keycard, no keycard then no open door. However there was an override system which would open all doors in case of emergency, unfortunately the damage sustained by the plane impacts rendered this computerized override inoperable. Therefore the doors remained locked. A group of survivors from the south tower headed up the stairs instead of down to try to get on the roof, they were unaware that stairwell A was still just passable and would of led to safety. A survivor from the south tower told them not to go up to the roof but they didn't listen and perished when the south tower collapsed.
This has to be the only event in history i could witness live on TV that still gives me chills and a horrible sense of dread. If there was hell on earth than those trapped in the building definitely saw a glimpse of it.
Anyone working in Freedom Tower (especially the upper floors) should probably consider keeping an emergency parachute in their desks, as well as taking a class learning how to use it.
If I recall, there was consideration to develop a BASE jumping parachute for novices to be used in case of emergency. The canopy was to be deployed by a static line attached to the building. It was tested at the Perrine bridge in Idaho. On that terrible day a high school classmate and company colleague were lost. They will not be forgotten.
Insurance would be outrageous for the companies tho, you'd have to be able to insure the company against liability if Janice and Pete's parachutes fail and they splat, the lawsuits would be outrageous
A video about Edna Cintron the women that was pictured standing on the broken beams in the impact zone of the north tower would be interesting, its crazy to imagine how she must have felt looking down standing right on the edge, waving for help.
I just watched 9/11 a day in America, and they did attempt a helicopter rescue, but no one was on the roof. The northwest corner of one of the towers was clear of smoke, they would have tried if someone was up there, but sadly no one was
I recommend watching “World Trade Center”. Released in 2006 and it’s a movie about 2 firefighters stuck under the rubble of the World Trade Center. You might be interested in it. It’s just like 9/11 one day in America but not a documentary. It’s mostly about, the first responders story.
I worked at a skydiving dropzone for a summer about 12 years ago and my ex was a skydiving instructor there, he also held a couple records for most skydives in one day by one person in a couple of states. I was actually on site for both events. You can imagine it was a special setup and race to complete from sunrise to setting. He did like 110. He had to do what are called hop n pops to get them all done in time and safely. I think that the lowest altitude he could go to and immediately pull to deploy was 2000 or 1500 ft to ensure he made it down in time and safely. They were quick at that height literally immediately pulled after he stepped foot out of the plane/zero free fall and there were still several that just seemed too dang close for my liking. Even without the free fall/being under canopy it was only a matter of seconds until he was on the ground and he’s an exceptionally experienced skydiver. IMO, it would have taken very skilled skydivers/base jumpers to actually even have a chance of surviving that jump and you’d have to be up towards the very top. Forget all of the chaotic factors of the day - things like you mentioned about the obstacles of the buildings/terraces and then the lack of clear safe landing locations on the ground. Getting the gear on safely/securely is another factor. Can’t imagine a novice trying to get strapped to it safely with all the chaos going on. It’s not like just a backpack. Controlling the risers and braking handles can be physically difficult too. I packed parachutes there and it’s a very intricate system. Heck, even with my familiarity of the rigs, I only did one jump/tandem bc I’m petrified of heights. Even working around them for an entire summer, packing them and helping rig up tandem jumpers, I’d probably not be able to get it on correctly nor pull or control it if I were in the situation. At best everyone intending to use them would need thorough training and likely annually to even have a fighting chance of potentially surviving a hop n pop/BASE jump out. At worst, I think you’d have a whole lot of chaos - people hitting the ground having never pulled in time, people smacking into each other with or without open canopies - the lucky folks that deployed in time would be entangling chutes with each other and racing to the ground intertwined even faster than the 15/20 second ride without becoming entangled. And so on. Oh and an insane amount of critical casualties would end up perishing in a lot more pain than if they hadn’t had a drag to slow them down. Like, gruesome painful injuries from not deploying correctly - instead of instant lights out, they could be gravely injured and suffering bc they were merely slowed down and that would be an awful way to suffer before passing. I do commend your videos for exploring these types of inquiries so many years on. I’ve definitely thought about whether or not I think I could successfully jump with a rig and make it down alive plenty of times myself. Oh and then the logistics of the cost of the rigs, they are not cheap! Gosh maybe $5k per full rig for a basic setup, obviously they go well up over $10k for sport/sophisticated rigs. Most people rent them from the DZ or you can buy secondhand etc. A standard BASE jumping rig might be like $3kish. Then the cost to maintain and inspect them however often. Initial and probably annual training - even if very basic. Then the joys of the US these days, the liability /lawsuits from families of those who gave it a shot and it didn’t work so now they’re suing. Just so many variables. I get though that this is hypothetical and this could just be in reference to an individual keeping a rig at their desk. If they had experience either BASE jumping or with hop n pops and they weren’t up against several other random people jumping out with chutes on at the same time, depending on location and if you were like at the very top and not obstructed by smoke or obstacles in your path or on the ground, definitely doable and worth it if the opportunity presented itself! I would have given it a shot even with my fear of heights and very limited experience!
I love your detailed comment. I'd brought up this subject in a previous video and have thought about it for years. I did do one single jump on a static line. I did read that you could possibly pull a chute as low as 800ft. The Twin Towers were nearly 1800 ft high at the roof level. I'm running with the premise that anyone who takes a chute up to their high floor office, would be proficient in using it and my theory about this is based on a single person having a chute, which cuts out all these chaotic possibilities of jumpers getting tangled etc and novice jumpers not having the first clue what to do. But...even in a very chaotic situation, statistically, some people would have survived. Some would have landed on other buildings, some in parks, some on roads and others in the water. I figure that's a lot better than zero survivors. This hypothetical expert would have to have a cool head, take note of the wind conditions, be very aware of obstacles and have his/her landing spots already scoped out given the various wind conditions. The very prepared person, would scope out the conditions each day they went to work. That's a level of obsession that's very unlikely for such an unlikely event. It would have to be a person that simple found the mental exercise to be fun. These types of people do exist, but they are rare. I used to abseil but I still have a normal fear of heights, but given the prosect of being pulverized to dust or jumping with a chance, I'd definitely jump. Also, consider this: How many people jumped without a chute? That took complete desperation. If all those jumpers had a chute, I bet some would have lived.
@urbanyouths I hadn't really give the type of canopy, much thought, but I see that the round types open faster, thus potentially would drift further. Other types are more responsive in steering. I'm not an expert, but I think an expert jumper would know how to steer well and would have a responsive chute. I presume this will enable them to be more precise with their planned landing spot and have the ability to avoid obstacles closer to the drop spot.
I enjoy this series idc what anyone says. I always wonder these questions and for someone to make a full blown discussion about this is necessary and appreciated. Thank you
Jumping into the core may have been more frightening than out the window ,at least the window u know it’s over. If u jump in the core I’m sure it was pitch black,probably fire and full of smoke it would’ve been like falling into hell 😢
There was a guy on the 110 floor of the North Tower that quit because he was paranoid of a fire being caused by all the electrical equipment on the floor. He was told he couldn’t bring one so he quite a few months before 9/11
After September 11 if I worked in a high-rise I would definitely get base jumping lessons and keep a parachute in my briefcase. Whether or not it would work out doesn't matter. It would be better than plummeting to my death from a hight of 100 floors.
I want to correct you on something... When the towers were designed they took into account a plane crash. They designed the towers to absorb a plane crash on any portion of the tower, but the planes they had at the time were considerably smaller than a jumbo jet and they thought if a plane did hit the towers it would be one coming from far away and not familiar with the area and there wouldn't be a full fuel load.
Because of 9/11, I made a pact long ago that if I ever have to work high up in a tall building like this, I would have a wingsuit and glider parachute on hand somewhere in my work space
A witness from an adjacent building had clear view of those who were forced to jump from the windows of the towers, he made eye contact with them right before they jumped and said he saw the souls of the jumpers leave the body just before impacting the ground and disintegrating..
The souls leaving the body was the impact turning the body into a bloody mist. The body completely disintegrated. But I still believe god took away any pain upon impact.
It is well known one person on the 93rd floor kept one after the original bombing. Alas, the plane went directly into his floor, so it was a moot point.
I remember reading somewhere, that an employee of one of the company's that had offices high up in one of the towers, had asked about having parachutes and doing training for their use. Unfortunately his idea was rejected out of hand, quite harshly, if I remember correctly. They were told that the towers were built to withstand tremendous damage. We all know what happened, but nobody in the late 60's, when these buildings were designed, would expect someone to deliberately crash a jetliner into the towers fully laden with fuel. You could not "jump down into the impact zone" on the North tower and escape. There is the famous waving woman, who is stood in that impact zone. Somehow she survived the impact and destruction of her floor, but there was no way out. The stairs are gone, chocked full of rubble. If you look at photos of the fires. Up to three floors below her are engulfed in flame. You are not getting out doing that.
I found the article about building an emergency escape BASE jumping rig for novices: "Aside from the absolute unlikelihood of being caught in a burning high rise and actually having a rig right there, finding a way to get out a window, avoiding the sucking phenomenon that occurs when flames meet air, and landing safely in a city environment that has devolved into chaos all seem pretty dubious. “As a base jumper,” Jimmy said, “If I got trapped in a burning building, I would take the stairs.”
Actually those Towers were a catastrophe waiting to happen. Port Authority refused to follow the strict Codes NYC and FDNY had for public safety in Hi-rise Bldgs. (Fire Commissioner refused to sign off on them.) The PA grouped all three of the stairways in the core area for ease of construction and lower costs. FDNY wanted (as other Bldgs had), a FIRE TOWER. That is a stairway usually in a corner that has a vented access hallway protected with a 4 Hr firedoor. After you pass through the hall another 4Hr door leads to the wide stairs enclosed within 4Hr walls. NO LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST IN NYC TO BLDGS WITH THAT STAIRWAY.
@@UnfairEnforcer Your question is good, but misses the main point. Had PA installed the Fire Tower, most of those above the crash could have escaped. NFPA rules (minimum) state at least 2 exits remote from each other. PA grouped all 3 within yards of each other. Yes jet crash is extreme, but so were those Towers
The towers met building codes in effect at the time they were designed and/or built. Those 2 stairwells far away from eachother sound great, but it's not realistic or feasible to build new stairwells into an older building that already exists. Much easier said than done. Same with automobiles. Imagine if we were required to update our older cars/trucks to meet current safety standards. We couldn't.
@@johneckert1365 No you are quite wrong. The PA used their own codes for those Towers. FDNY Commish refused to sign off on those Bldgs because they were so poor. They were the first to use lightweight open web bar joist metal trusses for floor supports. Those trusses were placed on small metal ledges and tack-welded. PA realized they needed viso-elastic dampers to reduce the sway of the lighter weight Bldgs vs Old Code like Empire State Bldg. The Fire Towers I spoke of were Required in all commercial Bldgs over 100 feet after 1921. (Code change due to Triangle Shirtwaist Fire.) PA refused to install them because it would take up too much floor area!
There’s a story of the chief chef on the titanic, He thought he was doom and was gonna die so he went into the ships pantry and made it his mission to not leave one bottle of alcohol on the ship left. He got so drunk and actually survived because of it. Most people died within 20 minutes of hitting the 28 degree water, Yet he swam for 2 hours and survived because of the alcohol. Is it possible that someone in the wtc knew there was no escape so decided to go to the windows of the world and drink as much as they can as a last hurrah? I know it’s a dark topic but it’s just interesting to talk about when you brought up the titanic
Alcohol keeps one's body warm. A person survived because he was in a cold water after drinking alcohol. In the burning buildings, this would be counterproductive, right? You would get more hot and die quickly, that's what I think
Yeah, when I rode my bike in winter (and was still drinking) I would have a couple of beers before a long bike ride in winter because it makes it so much more tolerable. Even one beer/drink. The issue is that it's hard for me to just have two beers. ha.
I've done a bit of BASE jumping and I can say that the best bet would definitely be to parachute out. I've done some quick research, and the North Tower was about 1,300 feet tall. Now, most experienced BASE jumpers don't generally attempt a jump at or below 2,000 feet. If you jump below 2,000 feet you're really pushing your luck, but it is possible and has been done many times. So let's assume you've found a parachute on one of the upper floors. Owen Quinn BASE jumped from the North Tower in 1975, but he was an experienced jumper. If you're inexperienced and you've managed to fend off your coworkers for the chute then you're going to want to get to the roof as quickly as possible, you'll need all the height you can get. You've mentioned in other videos that the roof might have been locked off, if that's the case then maybe you'd have to break a window on the top floor or something. In this situation, feet = time. The more height you can get the more time you'll have to sort out a panic attack, fumble your hands for the cord, and try to guide yourself to safety. I think the best bet would be to try and land in the Hudson River. Trying to land in Lower Manhattan would decrease your chances of survival significantly. In BASE jumping even small obstacles can cause death, broken bones, or other severe injuries. Unlike what you see in video games, when you parachute, you often come in pretty hard. You would want to have seen it in some movies or something so you know to land feet first at least. Honestly, if you land in the Hudson, your chances of surviving would be pretty decent as long as you know how to swim and you don't get tangled in your parachute, which could drown you (similar to falling in a pool while the pool cover is on, the chute would envelop you and trap you). When you hit the water, you would want to take a deep breath and immediately remove the harness, then swim down and away from the chute before coming up. Anyway, I hope this helps some time travelling BASE jumpers in the future.
Think of the people that finally accessed the stairwell in the south tower and thought they were saved. If 15 got out there must’ve been another 15 or so on the way out when it collapsed
You could have a really tall fire pole to slide down, that way people could access it at any floor and slide down the way firefighters or the Ghostbusters do!
Experienced Skydivers BASE Jump off Fixed Structures: "BASE" is an acronym that stands for four categories of fixed objects from which one can jump: buildings, antennas (referring to radio masts), spans (bridges), and earth (cliffs). People in Twin Towers would need to go to Rooftop. Windows in surviving floors after Impact were extremely tough type of Glass. Hypothetically, if Windows could be broken, people could BASE Jump from their own Floors. Regardless of Jumping from Roof or through Broken Windows, people would be limited how far they could get away from Buildings. Air currents can suck a Parachutist back against the Exterior Walls, resulting in Chute collapsing. Then Jumper is truly just like other Jumpers without Parachutes.
There was a video of a guy that base jumped from the top of the Towers back in the day. He survived & recorded it in it's entirety. It's probably somewhere on RUclips.
Equip the FDNY with a platform that could scale the outside of the building. Use the window washer tracks. The firefighters wear a parachute and carry other chutes to give to people they find.
The parachute idea is silly. Your best bet in WTC 1 was to climb and reach the mechanical floor. It's an open air walkway for HVAC and if you reached it, there's a strong possibility that you could get back into the building, especially since it was below the impact point just below the sky lobby.
In 2001, the Twin Towers were the superstars of high-rise buildings. No one ever dreamed a 9/11 situation would ever happen. The windows I believe could not be opened from the inside, that day for security reasons the roof was locked and could not be accessed, and all emergency plans depended on the core stairways which were destroyed in the attack. Now a question. If you were on one of the upper floors and had a parachute were would you go to jump out of the building?
@posticusmaximus1739 The thing no one thinks about when they go to work each day is that their workplace will be destroyed by a terrorist or another such act, so why have a parachute in your desk draw. A plan of escape, yes, knowing where all the exits emergency or not are located, yes, but there is little most of us could do trying to escape a 9/11 type situation.
You could have a stack of static line parachutes (not packed, like paratroopers sometimes use) in a facility near the roof. You don't need too much space and a simple open window to leap out. There'd be a battle to decide who gets to use them though. Definitely within reach of a multi-millionaire exec to have installed in their office a facility only for their own personal use.
I have never jumped with a parachute, but I do know that they have a yearly event where they allow people to parachute off the New River Gorge Bridge in West Virginia, USA. I read that you have to have some kind of special certification or training in order to be allowed to do it because the bridge is only 876 feet tall. The original world trade center buildings we're 1300 feet tall. So I would think that anyone jumping would have to have the knowledge and ability to know when to pull the cord in time to avoid smashing into the ground.
You should have talked about whould it be possible to actually get the parachute open rather than would it be possible to find one lying around in the building. Just assume you have one
Short haul helicopter rescue would have worked, they use it in wildland firefighting all the time when people are injured in remote terrain where a helicoper cannot land.
I’d say you could definitely survive jumping from the towers on 9/11 if you had had an intact parachute that you could put on in the moments after the plane impacts But, of course, nobody did
I have often wondered about this scenario, myself. I guess the potential to survive such a catastrophe as 9/11 would depend upon what type of parachute, which way the wind was blowing, and what other buildings/obstructions were on the side that you jumped out of. I do agree with Depressed Ginger though that just about anybody would take that chance, rather than choke on the billowing smoke if they were were trapped above the impact zone.
They wouldn't be able to squeeze them through the steel columns. Those columns were only about shoulder width wide. Not to mention they would most certainly explode upon impact with the ground traveling at such a high speed.
@@bowengass4215 Surprisingly hamster balls can withstand more than most people would imagine. You'd still end up with every bone broken and your brain turned to mush inside your fractured skull but the ball could possibly survive such a fall.
That roof should never of been locked in the first place. I understand it’s because of some people wanted to commit suicide but others need to use that door as an escape from fire scenarios. They should of had security posted at the door at all times but always unlocked
Why aren't jetpacks available on a mass-produced & affordable level? (and yes, I'm taking into account instant rebuttals that naturally follow a wild ass statement like that)
I welcome all ideas and I like the jetpack idea but they take more training and they are a bigger bulkier item than a chute. They also have flammable substances in them and would not be allowed in the building.
Bro you’d be jumping into a black void of smoke and flames that probably looked like you’d land in hell itself. Plus that’s where the immense heat is traveling from. So your brain would tell you that your gonna land directly in the fire. And your probably talking a 4,5,6 story void youd have to jump. The chance of a broken bone or sprained ankle is extremely high if you survive the jump. So shatter both ankles and then try to traverse down 90 flights of stairs. Ain’t happening! But could you imagine if you knew where a parachute was for whatever reason and you go grab it and strap up, you’d probably be getting chased around the office by desperate people and you spot a broken window and you just dive out. All of a sudden you have fresh air and a breeze licking your face and you deploy the chute and gently float down only to be disturbed by a loud yell closing in on you quick and a man just free fell past you and you lock eyes with him and see the terror in his face only to realize you worked with him on the 94th floor! The range of emotions you’d experience in such a short amount of time would be incredible. The dopamine your brain would release would make you feel high!
Base jumpers often jump off skyscrapers. It's really gusty up near the top of skyscrapers so the risk of getting knocked into a building would be high. Finding a landing spot would be tough since drivers in the city are often out of control.
Yeah these are two major issues. The wind and the landing spot. An experienced jumper would pick the wind direction and the direction would determine the approximate landing spot too. There are various small parks and even the Hudson river. Landing on a road will have risks and landing on other buildings would also be risky. Mind you...anything would be better than being pulverised as part of the building collapses. If people jumped without chutes, they sure would definitely jump with them. I definitely would. If there were many chutes, I believe there would be many survivors. Some would have accidents with the side of the building or with their landing spots, but some would definitely have survived. No chute means definitely no survival.
Could specially made equipment have been able to enable the FDNY to suppress or extinguish the fires on the top floors? Prepositioned water pumps and hoses on every 10 floors of the building?
Bro after 9/11 there were parachutes designed for office use for sale. The rip cord you had to tie to a piece of furniture so it would deploy automatically.
Always wondered if helicopters would be able to drop members of the fire department on the roof, if they could break the doors open with equipment and perhaps make an attempt to rescue people and extinguish the fire
I suppose the smoke was so blinding that rescue operators should first have to distinguish that. If not for the smoke in that height, then I guess many would have been rescued
What is wild is tower 2 fell first and got hit last. But more firefighters and people perished supposedly in tower 1. Going up not even realizing ther building would fall. Imagine hearing that sound knowing your about to be crushed. May those souls rest with most high.
If a parachute attempt was to be made - above the fire likely would not be possible. The building above the plane strike would act like a giant chimney. The tremendous heat generated by the fire rises. Thus - if you weren't quickly toasted to death - the heat would carry your parachute upward (like a hot air balloon), and within a few seconds your chute would likely burst into flames or flip you over and down. The super heated air would rob the atmosphere of breathable oxygen. There are a dozen scientific reasons you probably wouldn't make it. However - it's a 100% likelihood just jumping out of any window higher than three stories would not work. Jumping from a window below the fire line would need to be from a minimum of 30 stories to allow the chute to open (might work with a little luck). If I worked higher than thirty stories - I might consider getting some training and keep a chute in my office.
So u build several storage rooms, fill em with parachutes (over 650 cantor employees killed in tower one) so how many chutes u gonna store? Impossible to determine.
Where are those really zoomed in photos of the people in the towers from? I've never seen images with such clarity of the people trapped before, everything I can find are stills from video footage,
@@pyromaniac354 That explains a lot. Really that's a bad choice of footage to use, comes across as dishonest: he knows that people who have not seen them before will assume they are genuinely part of the day, in the context of the video.,
The only other possibility would be to Die Hard it with a cord or something to the lower floors and hope to break a lower window. I remember within a year or so after 9/11 there was a lot of talk about putting in emergency parachutes and one concept I heard was having windows that could be removed and lockers full of parachutes with a device that would be attached to the window frames that would pull the cord for you after a certain distance.
My uncle (second removed) actually DID use a parachute during the attack! He was on floor 93 of the North Tower... Floated down to the ground and survived to this day!!!
Would it have been possible to of climbed down hugging the outside beams or inching down between the beams pushing against them and possibly using something to increase grip?
Dg did one a while ago that showed a guy doing that on north tower. He got down quite a few floors before disappearing when the south tower fell. I'm sure it showed the column next to the one he was scaling down had a broken window so he could of escaped if he was on that one 😢
Should be policy for people who work in high rises which are financial and social entities, be able to have some sort of parachute if need be . Would of been wild to see 100s of people trying to survive many would have perished but I’m sure many would of figured it out. Imagine pushing yourself to jump, I’m definitely not hesitating with a parachute. I love my life and others.
I thought about that scenario too. However this would not work in a tremendous emergency like 9/11. People would be in a panic scrambling for a parachute. The smoke and heat would force people to shove and some would probably fall to their deaths anyways without getting the parachute on. Then likely a bunch of people would jump out at or around the same time so the chutes would get tangled and become useless. Debris is also falling. Chairs, tables, airplane parts building materials and even bodies would make this all the more dangerous. Likely the insurance agency for the parachutes would be dealing with a MASSIVE lawsuit from the chutes not saving the victims that used them. Also depending on when they jump out and if they land safely, how long will they have or perhaps even think the entire building would collapse and crush them to smithereens anyway. Best case scenario is to have a surface to air missile on top of the skyscraper that can deal with rogue aircraft. Hopefully we'll never experience this event ever. Because a crowded city would suffer grave damage from a blown up aircraft falling into the streets below. And most importantly don't be up that high in a Skyscraper to begin with. I could never imagine working in an office that high off the ground. My anxiety would be literally sky high!!!
Hows about Firemans Poles built into the building? What about Inflatable Slides? And Inflatable Matresses on Ground? They SHOULD have had Parachtes - ALL of them would been saved. Massive, Massive Overlook.
I used to work on the 32nd floor of a 40 story tower from years 2000-2013 and not once during those 13 years did anyone there ever mention wanting to keep a parachute under their desk...neither before nor after 9/11 happened. Its just not something skyscraper workers ever want to think about.
Any outside stairs structures or inflatable stuffs, or safety escape wires on each window. Any building should have improved their security since 09/11. Did they?
Outfitting the WTC with emergency parachutes on the upper floors would have been both financially prohibitive and logistically impractical. The costs of providing parachutes for thousands of occupants, along with required training for safe use and landing, would have been enormous. Moreover, in an emergency, the chaos of hundreds of people attempting to parachute simultaneously could result in entanglement and serious accidents, endangering both the jumpers and people on the ground. Parachutes also present liability risks, as they might encourage reckless behavior or misuse during non-emergency situations, leading to unintended casualties.
If you happened to have a parachute in one of the towers or any other extremely high skyscraper, wind direction would play an important role. There are many stories you can find of people attempting suicide by jumping off a building, only for a gust to blow them back into the building. Its obviously very windy up that high, and strong wind gusts are common. So its best to find the side of the building where the wind is blowing past it, rather than into it. Cuz even if you deploy that parachute, if you do it on the wrong side, there's a good chance you would get blown back towards the building, possibly getting your chute tangled up and losing its lift. This is funny, because i have thought about this scenario so many times. And if I was an executive, (being the ones who typically have their own office) working at the top floors of a high skyscraper after 9/11, I would've definitely went out and bought a parachute. Also taking many hours of base jumping training. And beside the parachute, I would stash a large hammer, and a SCBA (Self Contained Breathing Apparatus. Its what firefighters have.) And i wouldn't tell a damn person about it. If someone tries to take your stuff during an emergency.....Well that hammer serves multiple purposes. 😏
Besides parachutes, to the best of my knowledge & imagination, the only now existing technology that has the potential to be customized to be a full on game changer to make it possible to save survivors stuck in the death zone of a 9/11 type scenario are jetpacks & maybe drones & maybe maybe some sort of hybridized combination of the two. Wearable jetpacks piloted by rescuers that also have at least 1 harness into which survivors can be strapped - where it'd basically be like en tandem paragliding or skydiving, where they're hanging below the pilot - should be developed. The main challenges would be being able to miniaturize it while also jacking up the power & efficiency (which are obviously basically totally at odds with one another). Then there's a ton of potential to create jetpacks that will be sent/flown directly to survivors where they can strap themselves in where all they'd have to do is maybe jump out the window or off the ledge & once clear of the building it starts flying them to safety. Then, after the survivor/s land & get out of the harness, if there's enough fuel leftover, it could immediately be sent back to the crisis zone. Imagine having 200 such devices that are each capable of making 4 round trips before they need to be refueled or replaced with fresh ones. There could also be some that could just be stored inside skyscrapers without having to be flown to the survivors. "Flying-Hover Platforms/Hoverboards" of various sizes & functions that could go right up close to the building's facade/windows/etc might even be possible to develop in the near future (if a serious effort to create them is marshalled). If this basic concept could be created, the potential is almost infinite. There could be some specialized to go right up next to the building to basically create a temporary balcony/gangplank which then larger ones can touch up to like tetris onto which survivors can walk, be dragged, or carried, etc. when the large ones are filled to capacity, they could fly to a nearby rooftop or something & as they leave another one is on its way to the temporary balcony hoverboard if survivors are still at that location. You know, a relay system that methodically ferries people could be developed. And i'm not talking about a green goblin style tiny round hoverboard. I mean one shaped like a square or a rectangle with guardrails or some other sort of barrier where ppl are less likely to fall off. All this stuff should be investigated & pursued if possible bc a 9/11 type scenario demands multiple designs bc different survivors will be in different types of nightmares & will have different needs. Some ppl will have to be carried. Some will have to crawl. And so on. Then there's the potential to create some that are designed to work especially rapidly where survivors basically freefall most the way down only for the jetpacks to fire up at the last possible moment to allow a safe landing. Then some could be made that do the same basic thing but do so more gently & gradually but still enable rapid evac in especially dire urgent situations.
There was a loud explosion before the north tower fell. It was big explosion I heard on a new Yorkers video on you tube. Also most of the fuel would have burned up on impact on the out side of the building. The big fire ball of the north tower. You do see a flash before it hits.I think they need to come up with better escape plans for building like the world trade centers.
That is hard thing to do. Do they enough parachute for everyone up there if not people will be fighting up in those floors. Just like the Titanic there not enough escape boats and people are fighting to get on the boats. Also they need to be train to how to work the parachute.
I think it is more of a moral question. I dont know if you could live with yourself jumping out with your parachute on and landing safely, while your work colleagues burned to death or hit the concrete. You would have some kind of survivor guilt. Another thing is a lot of people who went to the WTC didn't work there, they were tourists or at a seminar or something like that. So they could not be prepared in any way.
Long story short, yes you could’ve survived a jump with a parachute from the twin towers. However landing would’ve been extremely dangerous and same with the jump, even for professional jumpers because of the falling debris and chaos at the bottom.
I like my odds jumping with a parachute better than jumping without one.
Slim and none
@@mavjimbo I disagree, people have BASE jumped the WTC, yes there is a significant chance of dying anyway but someone experienced in skydiving could survive.
Me too
Right? What a stupid premise
Yeah, but the idea that there would be parachutes available and waiting is rather far-fetched.
I am really glad these attacks did not happen in the current day, there would be so much horrific footage from live-streaming etc, nobody wants to see their loved ones like that in their final moments
I was telling my wife the same thing
Imagine all the people that would have died on live
Well, algorithms on YT, Instagram and FB are good enough to delete that. So, live - yes, in record - no. Maybe, on Telegram and Reddit we would see something, since their policy ain't so strict.
Unfortunately a lot of people start recording these days before trying to get away from horrific situations
@@freschcookablepeople back then did, people snuck into the WTC plaza during 9/11 just to grab good pics/vids
Please never run out of 9/11 videos
I agree
And i was next to it that day.
@@dannyrichards-nb9shon skibidi?
@@dannyrichards-nb9sh Did you immediately leave?
@@dannyrichards-nb9sh dang what did it sound like?
The fact that this video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds long didn't escape me.
9:10 long for me
@@importedmusic Makes me wonder where that 11th second could have gone.
@@aarongreenfield9038 he intentionally made it 9:10 and some milliseconds, which shows up as 9:11 on thumbnails etc.
It's 9:10
@@stuartbrown25 Yes It may be on a technical level, but the time stamp on the video says 911.
If I worked in a skyscraper I would take base jumping lessons and keep a parachute under my desk. I would rather take my life into my own hands than wait around to see if I get rescued.
That’s silly.
@@howUlikemenowprecaution’s over anything
@@howUlikemenowno thats logik mate ;)
True it is always be careful in Skyscrapers
No you wouldn’t
The helicopter pilots who had flown above the buildings to attempt a rooftop rescue said that the south tower had too much smoke and was out of play, and that there was a small opening on the northwest corner of the north tower where they maybe could have rescued people, but no one was up there. I believe there were phone call accounts as well from people in the south tower that had made it to the top but could not break open the door to reach the roof. Maybe this happened in both towers. Not sure what the protocol was for keeping those doors locked, but in hindsight it's obviously terrible to think about.
Both tower roofs were locked and there was no way to open them. People in both towers tried accessing the roof but the doors were locked. I read somewhere that the doors to the roofs were opened at roughly 9:30am each day, of course both towers had already been hit by then so the people who typically opened the roof doors never had a chance to do so. The roof doors operated by keycard, no keycard then no open door. However there was an override system which would open all doors in case of emergency, unfortunately the damage sustained by the plane impacts rendered this computerized override inoperable. Therefore the doors remained locked.
A group of survivors from the south tower headed up the stairs instead of down to try to get on the roof, they were unaware that stairwell A was still just passable and would of led to safety. A survivor from the south tower told them not to go up to the roof but they didn't listen and perished when the south tower collapsed.
This has to be the only event in history i could witness live on TV that still gives me chills and a horrible sense of dread. If there was hell on earth than those trapped in the building definitely saw a glimpse of it.
Anyone working in Freedom Tower (especially the upper floors) should probably consider keeping an emergency parachute in their desks, as well as taking a class learning how to use it.
But wouldn’t freedom tower take more damage and (at least partially) collapse on impact because it’s mostly glass?
@@aidanlynnthat’s a good point but I don’t see us going through another 9/11.
I do and before the election.
@rebeccaa2433 good point ☝️
You can’t crack the glass either, it has reinforced concrete walls and bulletproof glass on the freedom tower
If I recall, there was consideration to develop a BASE jumping parachute for novices to be used in case of emergency. The canopy was to be deployed by a static line attached to the building. It was tested at the Perrine bridge in Idaho.
On that terrible day a high school classmate and company colleague were lost. They will not be forgotten.
Insurance would be outrageous for the companies tho, you'd have to be able to insure the company against liability if Janice and Pete's parachutes fail and they splat, the lawsuits would be outrageous
A video about Edna Cintron the women that was pictured standing on the broken beams in the impact zone of the north tower would be interesting, its crazy to imagine how she must have felt looking down standing right on the edge, waving for help.
I agree,you are so right,what a horrible feeling knowing you are about to burn to death, or having the building collapse on you !
I just watched 9/11 a day in America, and they did attempt a helicopter rescue, but no one was on the roof. The northwest corner of one of the towers was clear of smoke, they would have tried if someone was up there, but sadly no one was
I recommend watching “World Trade Center”. Released in 2006 and it’s a movie about 2 firefighters stuck under the rubble of the World Trade Center. You might be interested in it. It’s just like 9/11 one day in America but not a documentary. It’s mostly about, the first responders story.
The doors leading to the roof were locked
I dont think anybody could get on the roof but matenance workers
At 3:51 those broken windows with the people at them that wasn't on 9/11 was it??
@@misguidedangel6550 no. that is a photo from the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center back in 1993.
I worked at a skydiving dropzone for a summer about 12 years ago and my ex was a skydiving instructor there, he also held a couple records for most skydives in one day by one person in a couple of states. I was actually on site for both events. You can imagine it was a special setup and race to complete from sunrise to setting. He did like 110. He had to do what are called hop n pops to get them all done in time and safely. I think that the lowest altitude he could go to and immediately pull to deploy was 2000 or 1500 ft to ensure he made it down in time and safely. They were quick at that height literally immediately pulled after he stepped foot out of the plane/zero free fall and there were still several that just seemed too dang close for my liking. Even without the free fall/being under canopy it was only a matter of seconds until he was on the ground and he’s an exceptionally experienced skydiver. IMO, it would have taken very skilled skydivers/base jumpers to actually even have a chance of surviving that jump and you’d have to be up towards the very top. Forget all of the chaotic factors of the day - things like you mentioned about the obstacles of the buildings/terraces and then the lack of clear safe landing locations on the ground. Getting the gear on safely/securely is another factor. Can’t imagine a novice trying to get strapped to it safely with all the chaos going on. It’s not like just a backpack. Controlling the risers and braking handles can be physically difficult too.
I packed parachutes there and it’s a very intricate system. Heck, even with my familiarity of the rigs, I only did one jump/tandem bc I’m petrified of heights. Even working around them for an entire summer, packing them and helping rig up tandem jumpers, I’d probably not be able to get it on correctly nor pull or control it if I were in the situation. At best everyone intending to use them would need thorough training and likely annually to even have a fighting chance of potentially surviving a hop n pop/BASE jump out. At worst, I think you’d have a whole lot of chaos - people hitting the ground having never pulled in time, people smacking into each other with or without open canopies - the lucky folks that deployed in time would be entangling chutes with each other and racing to the ground intertwined even faster than the 15/20 second ride without becoming entangled. And so on. Oh and an insane amount of critical casualties would end up perishing in a lot more pain than if they hadn’t had a drag to slow them down. Like, gruesome painful injuries from not deploying correctly - instead of instant lights out, they could be gravely injured and suffering bc they were merely slowed down and that would be an awful way to suffer before passing.
I do commend your videos for exploring these types of inquiries so many years on. I’ve definitely thought about whether or not I think I could successfully jump with a rig and make it down alive plenty of times myself.
Oh and then the logistics of the cost of the rigs, they are not cheap! Gosh maybe $5k per full rig for a basic setup, obviously they go well up over $10k for sport/sophisticated rigs. Most people rent them from the DZ or you can buy secondhand etc. A standard BASE jumping rig might be like $3kish. Then the cost to maintain and inspect them however often. Initial and probably annual training - even if very basic. Then the joys of the US these days, the liability /lawsuits from families of those who gave it a shot and it didn’t work so now they’re suing. Just so many variables.
I get though that this is hypothetical and this could just be in reference to an individual keeping a rig at their desk. If they had experience either BASE jumping or with hop n pops and they weren’t up against several other random people jumping out with chutes on at the same time, depending on location and if you were like at the very top and not obstructed by smoke or obstacles in your path or on the ground, definitely doable and worth it if the opportunity presented itself! I would have given it a shot even with my fear of heights and very limited experience!
I love your detailed comment. I'd brought up this subject in a previous video and have thought about it for years. I did do one single jump on a static line. I did read that you could possibly pull a chute as low as 800ft. The Twin Towers were nearly 1800 ft high at the roof level. I'm running with the premise that anyone who takes a chute up to their high floor office, would be proficient in using it and my theory about this is based on a single person having a chute, which cuts out all these chaotic possibilities of jumpers getting tangled etc and novice jumpers not having the first clue what to do. But...even in a very chaotic situation, statistically, some people would have survived. Some would have landed on other buildings, some in parks, some on roads and others in the water. I figure that's a lot better than zero survivors.
This hypothetical expert would have to have a cool head, take note of the wind conditions, be very aware of obstacles and have his/her landing spots already scoped out given the various wind conditions. The very prepared person, would scope out the conditions each day they went to work. That's a level of obsession that's very unlikely for such an unlikely event. It would have to be a person that simple found the mental exercise to be fun. These types of people do exist, but they are rare. I used to abseil but I still have a normal fear of heights, but given the prosect of being pulverized to dust or jumping with a chance, I'd definitely jump. Also, consider this: How many people jumped without a chute? That took complete desperation. If all those jumpers had a chute, I bet some would have lived.
@urbanyouths I hadn't really give the type of canopy, much thought, but I see that the round types open faster, thus potentially would drift further. Other types are more responsive in steering. I'm not an expert, but I think an expert jumper would know how to steer well and would have a responsive chute. I presume this will enable them to be more precise with their planned landing spot and have the ability to avoid obstacles closer to the drop spot.
Perhaps a Sionide capsule or a pistol is a better device to keep in your desk for a similar situation 🤷♂️
Ive never seen that zoomed in photo before. Man, those poor people.
not totally certain, but that close up might be from the 1993 bombing.
@@vincebagadonis8016 it is!
@vincebagadonis8016 that makes more sense. Because they don't look in complete terror as I would expect if they were completely stuck.
@@lavishrw guy in the middle seems to be enjoying himself.
i appreciate the touch of the vid being 9:11 long
The irony
@@trmp9923 it's not ironic.
There's a picture I saw of a jumper using her coat as a makeshift parachute, heartbreaking
Eeeeek.
Like Mary Poppins' umbrella
@@johneckert1365 cmon man😭
Desperation to escape will make people use whatever they can get hold of. People tried tablecloths and all sorts to get out
@@veron8484 a drowning man will cling to straws😔
I enjoy this series idc what anyone says. I always wonder these questions and for someone to make a full blown discussion about this is necessary and appreciated. Thank you
Jumping into the core may have been more frightening than out the window ,at least the window u know it’s over. If u jump in the core I’m sure it was pitch black,probably fire and full of smoke it would’ve been like falling into hell 😢
There was a guy on the 110 floor of the North Tower that quit because he was paranoid of a fire being caused by all the electrical equipment on the floor. He was told he couldn’t bring one so he quite a few months before 9/11
There was a guy who took out an insurance policy a few months before. They don’t call him lucky Larry Silverstein for nothing.
@@TickleMeChelmno He just bought the buildings a few months prior. An insurance policy was just part of the process of purchasing the buildings
@@TickleMeChelmnoIs your home insured? Or other valuable property insured?
Don't be dumb........
This event still haunts people. 23 years later.
The people who lived through it, not people born after. I don't think they give a crap unless it's something on tiktok.
@@ai5ddTRUTH ☝️
After September 11 if I worked in a high-rise I would definitely get base jumping lessons and keep a parachute in my briefcase. Whether or not it would work out doesn't matter. It would be better than plummeting to my death from a hight of 100 floors.
You forgot to mention jumping out with all the debris falling out of the building.
There's more chance of one surviving by using one's fart as a parachute than what you're suggesting.
I want to correct you on something... When the towers were designed they took into account a plane crash. They designed the towers to absorb a plane crash on any portion of the tower, but the planes they had at the time were considerably smaller than a jumbo jet and they thought if a plane did hit the towers it would be one coming from far away and not familiar with the area and there wouldn't be a full fuel load.
Because of 9/11, I made a pact long ago that if I ever have to work high up in a tall building like this, I would have a wingsuit and glider parachute on hand somewhere in my work space
Smart
Your idea is so ridiculous to the point where you would have more success if you used your fart as a parachute.
A witness from an adjacent building had clear view of those who were forced to jump from the windows of the towers, he made eye contact with them right before they jumped and said he saw the souls of the jumpers leave the body just before impacting the ground and disintegrating..
Geeeez 😱
The souls leaving the body was the impact turning the body into a bloody mist. The body completely disintegrated.
But I still believe god took away any pain upon impact.
@@blablablabla4236 I can't imagine witnessing those jumpers.
It is well known one person on the 93rd floor kept one after the original bombing. Alas, the plane went directly into his floor, so it was a moot point.
I’ve played this scenario out in my head for 23 years. I’m thinking if I worked at the twin towers I would have kept an emergency chute at my desk
I remember reading somewhere, that an employee of one of the company's that had offices high up in one of the towers, had asked about having parachutes and doing training for their use. Unfortunately his idea was rejected out of hand, quite harshly, if I remember correctly. They were told that the towers were built to withstand tremendous damage. We all know what happened, but nobody in the late 60's, when these buildings were designed, would expect someone to deliberately crash a jetliner into the towers fully laden with fuel.
You could not "jump down into the impact zone" on the North tower and escape. There is the famous waving woman, who is stood in that impact zone. Somehow she survived the impact and destruction of her floor, but there was no way out. The stairs are gone, chocked full of rubble. If you look at photos of the fires. Up to three floors below her are engulfed in flame. You are not getting out doing that.
I found the article about building an emergency escape BASE jumping rig for novices:
"Aside from the absolute unlikelihood of being caught in a burning high rise and actually having a rig right there, finding a way to get out a window, avoiding the sucking phenomenon that occurs when flames meet air, and landing safely in a city environment that has devolved into chaos all seem pretty dubious. “As a base jumper,” Jimmy said, “If I got trapped in a burning building, I would take the stairs.”
Actually those Towers were a catastrophe waiting to happen. Port Authority refused to follow the strict Codes NYC and FDNY had for public safety in Hi-rise Bldgs. (Fire Commissioner refused to sign off on them.) The PA grouped all three of the stairways in the core area for ease of construction and lower costs. FDNY wanted (as other Bldgs had), a FIRE TOWER. That is a stairway usually in a corner that has a vented access hallway protected with a 4 Hr firedoor. After you pass through the hall another 4Hr door leads to the wide stairs enclosed within 4Hr walls.
NO LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST IN NYC TO BLDGS WITH THAT STAIRWAY.
To be fair, how many of those buildings have been hit by jet liners?
@@UnfairEnforcer Your question is good, but misses the main point. Had PA installed the Fire Tower, most of those above the crash could have escaped. NFPA rules (minimum) state at least 2 exits remote from each other. PA grouped all 3 within yards of each other. Yes jet crash is extreme, but so were those Towers
@@UnfairEnforcerRight 💯
The towers met building codes in effect at the time they were designed and/or built. Those 2 stairwells far away from eachother sound great, but it's not realistic or feasible to build new stairwells into an older building that already exists. Much easier said than done. Same with automobiles. Imagine if we were required to update our older cars/trucks to meet current safety standards. We couldn't.
@@johneckert1365 No you are quite wrong. The PA used their own codes for those Towers. FDNY Commish refused to sign off on those Bldgs because they were so poor. They were the first to use lightweight open web bar joist metal trusses for floor supports. Those trusses were placed on small metal ledges and tack-welded. PA realized they needed viso-elastic dampers to reduce the sway of the lighter weight Bldgs vs Old Code like Empire State Bldg. The Fire Towers I spoke of were Required in all commercial Bldgs over 100 feet after 1921. (Code change due to Triangle Shirtwaist Fire.) PA refused to install them because it would take up too much floor area!
There’s a story of the chief chef on the titanic, He thought he was doom and was gonna die so he went into the ships pantry and made it his mission to not leave one bottle of alcohol on the ship left. He got so drunk and actually survived because of it. Most people died within 20 minutes of hitting the 28 degree water, Yet he swam for 2 hours and survived because of the alcohol. Is it possible that someone in the wtc knew there was no escape so decided to go to the windows of the world and drink as much as they can as a last hurrah? I know it’s a dark topic but it’s just interesting to talk about when you brought up the titanic
Alcohol keeps one's body warm. A person survived because he was in a cold water after drinking alcohol. In the burning buildings, this would be counterproductive, right? You would get more hot and die quickly, that's what I think
Alcohol lowers your body temperature, but it makes one feel warm. Drinking alcohol to stay warm hastens hypothermia. Look it up.
Yeah, when I rode my bike in winter (and was still drinking) I would have a couple of beers before a long bike ride in winter because it makes it so much more tolerable. Even one beer/drink. The issue is that it's hard for me to just have two beers. ha.
I've done a bit of BASE jumping and I can say that the best bet would definitely be to parachute out. I've done some quick research, and the North Tower was about 1,300 feet tall. Now, most experienced BASE jumpers don't generally attempt a jump at or below 2,000 feet. If you jump below 2,000 feet you're really pushing your luck, but it is possible and has been done many times.
So let's assume you've found a parachute on one of the upper floors. Owen Quinn BASE jumped from the North Tower in 1975, but he was an experienced jumper. If you're inexperienced and you've managed to fend off your coworkers for the chute then you're going to want to get to the roof as quickly as possible, you'll need all the height you can get. You've mentioned in other videos that the roof might have been locked off, if that's the case then maybe you'd have to break a window on the top floor or something. In this situation, feet = time. The more height you can get the more time you'll have to sort out a panic attack, fumble your hands for the cord, and try to guide yourself to safety.
I think the best bet would be to try and land in the Hudson River. Trying to land in Lower Manhattan would decrease your chances of survival significantly. In BASE jumping even small obstacles can cause death, broken bones, or other severe injuries. Unlike what you see in video games, when you parachute, you often come in pretty hard. You would want to have seen it in some movies or something so you know to land feet first at least.
Honestly, if you land in the Hudson, your chances of surviving would be pretty decent as long as you know how to swim and you don't get tangled in your parachute, which could drown you (similar to falling in a pool while the pool cover is on, the chute would envelop you and trap you). When you hit the water, you would want to take a deep breath and immediately remove the harness, then swim down and away from the chute before coming up.
Anyway, I hope this helps some time travelling BASE jumpers in the future.
You think if it didn’t reply they would survive?
Surprised you didn't mention the powerful winds up there...
this is the question i have always asked.
Think of the people that finally accessed the stairwell in the south tower and thought they were saved. If 15 got out there must’ve been another 15 or so on the way out when it collapsed
I can not get enough of you talking about 911 Wtc
Me either, after almost 23 years I'm still can't believe it happened in hometown N.Y.C
Love that this video is excactly 9 minutes 11 seconds long
You've always been optimistic. Especially the NODADDYDONTTOUCHMETHERE
days
You could have a really tall fire pole to slide down, that way people could access it at any floor and slide down the way firefighters or the Ghostbusters do!
I’ve Always thought that
As long as it remains intact.
Experienced Skydivers BASE Jump off Fixed Structures: "BASE" is an acronym that stands for four categories of fixed objects from which one can jump: buildings, antennas (referring to radio masts), spans (bridges), and earth (cliffs). People in Twin Towers would need to go to Rooftop. Windows in surviving floors after Impact were extremely tough type of Glass. Hypothetically, if Windows could be broken, people could BASE Jump from their own Floors. Regardless of Jumping from Roof or through Broken Windows, people would be limited how far they could get away from Buildings. Air currents can suck a Parachutist back against the Exterior Walls, resulting in Chute collapsing. Then Jumper is truly just like other Jumpers without Parachutes.
Exactly.
There was a video of a guy that base jumped from the top of the Towers back in the day. He survived & recorded it in it's entirety. It's probably somewhere on RUclips.
I've always wondered this. RIP to all the innocent lost on this horrific day. God bless the USA.
Equip the FDNY with a platform that could scale the outside of the building. Use the window washer tracks. The firefighters wear a parachute and carry other chutes to give to people they find.
Finally a video about a parachute
The parachute idea is silly. Your best bet in WTC 1 was to climb and reach the mechanical floor. It's an open air walkway for HVAC and if you reached it, there's a strong possibility that you could get back into the building, especially since it was below the impact point just below the sky lobby.
Wingsuit would be sick.
In 2001, the Twin Towers were the superstars of high-rise buildings. No one ever dreamed a 9/11 situation would ever happen. The windows I believe could not be opened from the inside, that day for security reasons the roof was locked and could not be accessed, and all emergency plans depended on the core stairways which were destroyed in the attack. Now a question. If you were on one of the upper floors and had a parachute were would you go to jump out of the building?
Probably the highest floor reschable on the side away from the impact site.
@posticusmaximus1739 The thing no one thinks about when they go to work each day is that their workplace will be destroyed by a terrorist or another such act, so why have a parachute in your desk draw. A plan of escape, yes, knowing where all the exits emergency or not are located, yes, but there is little most of us could do trying to escape a 9/11 type situation.
You could have a stack of static line parachutes (not packed, like paratroopers sometimes use) in a facility near the roof. You don't need too much space and a simple open window to leap out.
There'd be a battle to decide who gets to use them though. Definitely within reach of a multi-millionaire exec to have installed in their office a facility only for their own personal use.
I have never jumped with a parachute, but I do know that they have a yearly event where they allow people to parachute off the New River Gorge Bridge in West Virginia, USA. I read that you have to have some kind of special certification or training in order to be allowed to do it because the bridge is only 876 feet tall. The original world trade center buildings we're 1300 feet tall. So I would think that anyone jumping would have to have the knowledge and ability to know when to pull the cord in time to avoid smashing into the ground.
You should have talked about whould it be possible to actually get the parachute open rather than would it be possible to find one lying around in the building. Just assume you have one
Short haul helicopter rescue would have worked, they use it in wildland firefighting all the time when people are injured in remote terrain where a helicoper cannot land.
That's an interesting point, but no, I think the powerful winds up there would make it suicidal
I’d say you could definitely survive jumping from the towers on 9/11 if you had had an intact parachute that you could put on in the moments after the plane impacts
But, of course, nobody did
I disagree. The powerful winds up there. No contest sadly.
no joke when this happened I told myself if I ever worked in a skyscraper I would bring a parachute to work. 9 year old me was smart af
This is a question I've asked myself for over 20 years
I have often wondered about this scenario, myself. I guess the potential to survive such a catastrophe as 9/11 would depend upon what type of parachute, which way the wind was blowing, and what other buildings/obstructions were on the side that you jumped out of. I do agree with Depressed Ginger though that just about anybody would take that chance, rather than choke on the billowing smoke if they were were trapped above the impact zone.
What if they had the inflatable hamster balls
neck breaking simulator
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Proably explode still because of the fall and impact
They wouldn't be able to squeeze them through the steel columns. Those columns were only about shoulder width wide.
Not to mention they would most certainly explode upon impact with the ground traveling at such a high speed.
@@bowengass4215 Surprisingly hamster balls can withstand more than most people would imagine. You'd still end up with every bone broken and your brain turned to mush inside your fractured skull but the ball could possibly survive such a fall.
That roof should never of been locked in the first place. I understand it’s because of some people wanted to commit suicide but others need to use that door as an escape from fire scenarios. They should of had security posted at the door at all times but always unlocked
Why aren't jetpacks available on a mass-produced & affordable level?
(and yes, I'm taking into account instant rebuttals that naturally follow a wild ass statement like that)
I welcome all ideas and I like the jetpack idea but they take more training and they are a bigger bulkier item than a chute. They also have flammable substances in them and would not be allowed in the building.
As a hobby I use my farts as a Jet-Pack to help me land safely
Man I love your reviews, you are objective and respectfull
Bro you’d be jumping into a black void of smoke and flames that probably looked like you’d land in hell itself. Plus that’s where the immense heat is traveling from. So your brain would tell you that your gonna land directly in the fire. And your probably talking a 4,5,6 story void youd have to jump. The chance of a broken bone or sprained ankle is extremely high if you survive the jump. So shatter both ankles and then try to traverse down 90 flights of stairs. Ain’t happening! But could you imagine if you knew where a parachute was for whatever reason and you go grab it and strap up, you’d probably be getting chased around the office by desperate people and you spot a broken window and you just dive out. All of a sudden you have fresh air and a breeze licking your face and you deploy the chute and gently float down only to be disturbed by a loud yell closing in on you quick and a man just free fell past you and you lock eyes with him and see the terror in his face only to realize you worked with him on the 94th floor! The range of emotions you’d experience in such a short amount of time would be incredible. The dopamine your brain would release would make you feel high!
this is 9 minutes and eleven seconds
Holy fuck
I agree that it could have allowed survivors to escape and then float down to safety
Base jumpers often jump off skyscrapers. It's really gusty up near the top of skyscrapers so the risk of getting knocked into a building would be high. Finding a landing spot would be tough since drivers in the city are often out of control.
Yeah these are two major issues. The wind and the landing spot. An experienced jumper would pick the wind direction and the direction would determine the approximate landing spot too. There are various small parks and even the Hudson river. Landing on a road will have risks and landing on other buildings would also be risky. Mind you...anything would be better than being pulverised as part of the building collapses. If people jumped without chutes, they sure would definitely jump with them. I definitely would. If there were many chutes, I believe there would be many survivors. Some would have accidents with the side of the building or with their landing spots, but some would definitely have survived. No chute means definitely no survival.
Could specially made equipment have been able to enable the FDNY to suppress or extinguish the fires on the top floors? Prepositioned water pumps and hoses on every 10 floors of the building?
Bro after 9/11 there were parachutes designed for office use for sale. The rip cord you had to tie to a piece of furniture so it would deploy automatically.
That's dope.
Could people inside Twin Towers fight against fire?
The Twin Towers WERE stronger at the base. The steel columns were much thicker at the lower floors vs the upper floors.
How many more videos can you squeeze out of 9/11?
DG: Yes
Always wondered if helicopters would be able to drop members of the fire department on the roof, if they could break the doors open with equipment and perhaps make an attempt to rescue people and extinguish the fire
I suppose the smoke was so blinding that rescue operators should first have to distinguish that. If not for the smoke in that height, then I guess many would have been rescued
I always thought to myself if an emergency parachute was ever stored by anyone as a last resort escape.
What is wild is tower 2 fell first and got hit last. But more firefighters and people perished supposedly in tower 1. Going up not even realizing ther building would fall. Imagine hearing that sound knowing your about to be crushed. May those souls rest with most high.
If a parachute attempt was to be made - above the fire likely would not be possible. The building above the plane strike would act like a giant chimney. The tremendous heat generated by the fire rises. Thus - if you weren't quickly toasted to death - the heat would carry your parachute upward (like a hot air balloon), and within a few seconds your chute would likely burst into flames or flip you over and down. The super heated air would rob the atmosphere of breathable oxygen. There are a dozen scientific reasons you probably wouldn't make it. However - it's a 100% likelihood just jumping out of any window higher than three stories would not work. Jumping from a window below the fire line would need to be from a minimum of 30 stories to allow the chute to open (might work with a little luck). If I worked higher than thirty stories - I might consider getting some training and keep a chute in my office.
So u build several storage rooms, fill em with parachutes (over 650 cantor employees killed in tower one) so how many chutes u gonna store? Impossible to determine.
I also wonder what if they had cable fire ladder. That a person could break out a window may make to under the impact zone
Where are those really zoomed in photos of the people in the towers from? I've never seen images with such clarity of the people trapped before, everything I can find are stills from video footage,
Those are from the 93 bombing.
I thought it was weird they didn't look too concerned lol
@@pyromaniac354 That explains a lot. Really that's a bad choice of footage to use, comes across as dishonest: he knows that people who have not seen them before will assume they are genuinely part of the day, in the context of the video.,
@@pyromaniac354 Thank ya'll for explaining.
The only other possibility would be to Die Hard it with a cord or something to the lower floors and hope to break a lower window.
I remember within a year or so after 9/11 there was a lot of talk about putting in emergency parachutes and one concept I heard was having windows that could be removed and lockers full of parachutes with a device that would be attached to the window frames that would pull the cord for you after a certain distance.
My uncle (second removed) actually DID use a parachute during the attack! He was on floor 93 of the North Tower... Floated down to the ground and survived to this day!!!
Did he use his fart as a make-shift parachute?
Would it have been possible to of climbed down hugging the outside beams or inching down between the beams pushing against them and possibly using something to increase grip?
Dg did one a while ago that showed a guy doing that on north tower.
He got down quite a few floors before disappearing when the south tower fell.
I'm sure it showed the column next to the one he was scaling down had a broken window so he could of escaped if he was on that one 😢
I did see a video guy skydive off the Observation deck pre 9/11
I enjoy your dives into these hypotheticals
Should be policy for people who work in high rises which are financial and social entities, be able to have some sort of parachute if need be . Would of been wild to see 100s of people trying to survive many would have perished but I’m sure many would of figured it out. Imagine pushing yourself to jump, I’m definitely not hesitating with a parachute. I love my life and others.
I thought about that scenario too. However this would not work in a tremendous emergency like 9/11. People would be in a panic scrambling for a parachute. The smoke and heat would force people to shove and some would probably fall to their deaths anyways without getting the parachute on. Then likely a bunch of people would jump out at or around the same time so the chutes would get tangled and become useless.
Debris is also falling. Chairs, tables, airplane parts building materials and even bodies would make this all the more dangerous. Likely the insurance agency for the parachutes would be dealing with a MASSIVE lawsuit from the chutes not saving the victims that used them.
Also depending on when they jump out and if they land safely, how long will they have or perhaps even think the entire building would collapse and crush them to smithereens anyway.
Best case scenario is to have a surface to air missile on top of the skyscraper that can deal with rogue aircraft. Hopefully we'll never experience this event ever. Because a crowded city would suffer grave damage from a blown up aircraft falling into the streets below.
And most importantly don't be up that high in a Skyscraper to begin with. I could never imagine working in an office that high off the ground. My anxiety would be literally sky high!!!
You probably would hit the ground before the parachute could fully deploy.
makes me think of John Vincent who base jumped from WTC in 1991
Hows about Firemans Poles built into the building? What about Inflatable Slides? And Inflatable Matresses on Ground? They SHOULD have had Parachtes - ALL of them would been saved. Massive, Massive Overlook.
I used to work on the 32nd floor of a 40 story tower from years 2000-2013 and not once during those 13 years did anyone there ever mention wanting to keep a parachute under their desk...neither before nor after 9/11 happened. Its just not something skyscraper workers ever want to think about.
Any outside stairs structures or inflatable stuffs, or safety escape wires on each window.
Any building should have improved their security since 09/11. Did they?
What about all the debris which could pierce through you chute
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Most people had to deal with choking blinding smoke, let alone put on parachutes.
Outfitting the WTC with emergency parachutes on the upper floors would have been both financially prohibitive and logistically impractical. The costs of providing parachutes for thousands of occupants, along with required training for safe use and landing, would have been enormous. Moreover, in an emergency, the chaos of hundreds of people attempting to parachute simultaneously could result in entanglement and serious accidents, endangering both the jumpers and people on the ground. Parachutes also present liability risks, as they might encourage reckless behavior or misuse during non-emergency situations, leading to unintended casualties.
If you happened to have a parachute in one of the towers or any other extremely high skyscraper, wind direction would play an important role. There are many stories you can find of people attempting suicide by jumping off a building, only for a gust to blow them back into the building. Its obviously very windy up that high, and strong wind gusts are common. So its best to find the side of the building where the wind is blowing past it, rather than into it. Cuz even if you deploy that parachute, if you do it on the wrong side, there's a good chance you would get blown back towards the building, possibly getting your chute tangled up and losing its lift. This is funny, because i have thought about this scenario so many times. And if I was an executive, (being the ones who typically have their own office) working at the top floors of a high skyscraper after 9/11, I would've definitely went out and bought a parachute. Also taking many hours of base jumping training. And beside the parachute, I would stash a large hammer, and a SCBA (Self Contained Breathing Apparatus. Its what firefighters have.) And i wouldn't tell a damn person about it. If someone tries to take your stuff during an emergency.....Well that hammer serves multiple purposes. 😏
The fact that this is 9:11 minutes made me watch
Besides parachutes, to the best of my knowledge & imagination, the only now existing technology that has the potential to be customized to be a full on game changer to make it possible to save survivors stuck in the death zone of a 9/11 type scenario are jetpacks & maybe drones & maybe maybe some sort of hybridized combination of the two.
Wearable jetpacks piloted by rescuers that also have at least 1 harness into which survivors can be strapped - where it'd basically be like en tandem paragliding or skydiving, where they're hanging below the pilot - should be developed. The main challenges would be being able to miniaturize it while also jacking up the power & efficiency (which are obviously basically totally at odds with one another).
Then there's a ton of potential to create jetpacks that will be sent/flown directly to survivors where they can strap themselves in where all they'd have to do is maybe jump out the window or off the ledge & once clear of the building it starts flying them to safety. Then, after the survivor/s land & get out of the harness, if there's enough fuel leftover, it could immediately be sent back to the crisis zone. Imagine having 200 such devices that are each capable of making 4 round trips before they need to be refueled or replaced with fresh ones.
There could also be some that could just be stored inside skyscrapers without having to be flown to the survivors.
"Flying-Hover Platforms/Hoverboards" of various sizes & functions that could go right up close to the building's facade/windows/etc might even be possible to develop in the near future (if a serious effort to create them is marshalled). If this basic concept could be created, the potential is almost infinite.
There could be some specialized to go right up next to the building to basically create a temporary balcony/gangplank which then larger ones can touch up to like tetris onto which survivors can walk, be dragged, or carried, etc. when the large ones are filled to capacity, they could fly to a nearby rooftop or something & as they leave another one is on its way to the temporary balcony hoverboard if survivors are still at that location. You know, a relay system that methodically ferries people could be developed. And i'm not talking about a green goblin style tiny round hoverboard. I mean one shaped like a square or a rectangle with guardrails or some other sort of barrier where ppl are less likely to fall off.
All this stuff should be investigated & pursued if possible bc a 9/11 type scenario demands multiple designs bc different survivors will be in different types of nightmares & will have different needs. Some ppl will have to be carried. Some will have to crawl. And so on.
Then there's the potential to create some that are designed to work especially rapidly where survivors basically freefall most the way down only for the jetpacks to fire up at the last possible moment to allow a safe landing. Then some could be made that do the same basic thing but do so more gently & gradually but still enable rapid evac in especially dire urgent situations.
What if a bigger plane (like a Boeing 747) hit the towers?
There was a loud explosion before the north tower fell. It was big explosion I heard on a new Yorkers video on you tube. Also most of the fuel would have burned up on impact on the out side of the building. The big fire ball of the north tower. You do see a flash before it hits.I think they need to come up with better escape plans for building like the world trade centers.
That is hard thing to do. Do they enough parachute for everyone up there if not people will be fighting up in those floors. Just like the Titanic there not enough escape boats and people are fighting to get on the boats. Also they need to be train to how to work the parachute.
Everyone couldn’t jump at once too. It would have to be in some sort of order.
6:55 is this photo from 9/11 or 1993 ??
‘93
I’m guessing 93.
93 ig , I've never seen it before.
I think it is more of a moral question. I dont know if you could live with yourself jumping out with your parachute on and landing safely, while your work colleagues burned to death or hit the concrete. You would have some kind of survivor guilt. Another thing is a lot of people who went to the WTC didn't work there, they were tourists or at a seminar or something like that. So they could not be prepared in any way.
Even with fire safety in place. It doesnt change the plane lodged in the middle of the building
The planes kind of disintegrated on thier way inside the buildings.
These videos be entertaining fr 🐐
i love watching this channel cope with his trauma of 9/11 with these ridiculous premises
Long story short, yes you could’ve survived a jump with a parachute from the twin towers. However landing would’ve been extremely dangerous and same with the jump, even for professional jumpers because of the falling debris and chaos at the bottom.