This is the Jaymo x Tarzaned double coaching I imagine in an alternate Universe where Jaymo isn't mentally ill and is actually a legit challenger player 😂
i imagine Dantes having eyes going two different ways while listening Agurin and Tarz at the same time and im not surprised he couldnt take a proper decision, its like the voice were back
@@teddyzhang3091 When he isn't calling people slurs in private and threatening their career by unfairly striking their content, I'm sure he is a very nice dude.
So far the main disagreements were the theoretical perfect play and ignoring bad players vs adapting to the teammates mistakes to get the most value and impact out of it.
ye p much, imo tarzaned has a stronger point in terms of solo q. bad players are annoying because unless you are 20 kills turbo carry you HAVE to play around them or else the game is just doomed
@@frawstey281but that is definitely dependant on which elo you play in. I would argue that the mindset of Agurin fits his elo really well, but both mindsets have a good foundation
Argurin is a very good player and I think most players who play the jungle role respect him also. Tarz is also a very good player and people should respect him as such. They are some of the few really amazing western junglers we have who stream it. So its really cool to see them talk about the game!
@runswithevelynn4869 everyone knows Argurin is good, I was just surprised Tarzaned dropped the persona as much as he did. Tarzaned was pretty genuine in his thought about the game and about argurin, he stayed in character in terms of trolling Dantes, but I honestly expected him to be more troll and less real than he was because... well I've watched tarzaned videos before lol.
There's Solarbacca vs Adrian in the toplane and I have to watch an autist playing Hecarim while he's being co-piloted by a sociopath and the jungler who weaksides me every game in EUW... damn
hello , i pref agurin u know why , bc he is more pro , he can turn back the game in a loss , tarzan is a bully , dante he is a focus enemy jungler mental , but agurin he have some of all , if can know how to win , agaist a huge loss game , u are the best never tilt and lose mental u are soo good
ngl this video got me dead laughing dante: fck with passive jungler im the gigachad also dante: LETS GO AGURIIIIIIIIIIIN COACH ME!! i love u guys ngl :D
i wanna thank dante for this vid, it was so huge to hear them ball their diferent opinions and why they think about them. this should like almost get an academic award
watching Tarzaned play in Challenger NA is the best thing you can do to make you feel better, his people no joke run it down on repeat for hours on him it's actually super entertaining because Dr. Zaned knows it's happening and still gets pissed
For me the key takeaway of this video is that Tarzened and Agurin aren't divided by "proactive" and "reactive" jungling playstyles. Most of their different opinions on pathing are based on minimally different understandings of what the results of the decisions would be. 9/10 of their differences when they listened to what the other one said they either agreed or said "are you sure that would happen?" they never said "I think that's too reactive" or "I'm not comfortable and would prefer to react to what others are doing". If anything, I would say the main difference in their playstyles is champion pool. EDIT: In fact at the end, Agurin said to make the play that he believed was correct, and Tarzaned told him to react off his team mates. Sounds pretty reactive playstyle to me. Tarzaned is a reactive jungler confirmed.
such a great video! I watch a lot of your streams but my low elo brain doesn't come close to understanding your decision makings. This video is so helpful! Made me think about jungling more strategically
Min 1.00.00 i think both plays are good/would work. 1. Top play is the standart play and more „high elo“ gameplay 2. Darius is inting and you could „Adaptation“ like tarzaned says and play to cover Darius
Hard agree, i absolutely do not understand how Briar's winrate is so low. Also, since W CD starts on first cast, with Shojin, if you W right at the end of your W, you can WW again almost instantly if that makes sense, getting two execute/healing autos in quick succession.
Her W is tricky to play with as you can overcommit, and a lot of lower elo players arent used to playing at low hp for pwoer spikes. That being said i have no idea why higher elo also has low WR lol
I find it really cool you guys did that. Big from you augurin to show up on that call for somone that publicly kept insulting you. But i also was surprised that Dantes was quite humble. Also Tarzaned ... how can he not pass 1 minute of coaching without saying fuck xD
I think Tarzaned could find players in EU to play with as alot of people in EU are chill and do not all pride themselves on their accomplishments ingame.
That last play you discussed is what makes euw better at macro in challenger they don't just follow plays, but they think about the optimal play and execute on it. Or at least it's a total soloqueue mindset to hover darius and wait around
having 6 cleavers gave you over 100% armour pen. Back then because of spaghetti code you did over 100% damage because armour would go into the negatives giving a damage BONUS instead of damage reduction. That was wild man
Its not about being at your own chickens fast enough. Almost every champ can be at chickens at 4:00 mins after resetting and buying one item. Its about the enemy jgl, who resetted after 6 camps, bought 2 small item components, then walks to your raptors, and beats you with stats because they have 700 gold spent and you only spent 350. I saw this at Agurins stream multiple times: he full clears (no crab), spents 700g, walks to enemy raptors and takes them, while his own camps are waiting to respawn. You give the enemy Jungler an opportunity to spent more efficient time on the map and put yourself in a scenario where you cannot contest own raptors 1 v 1. Basically this strat means both junglers will have desynced recalls and different timers where they can punish each other. With the downside that enemy jgl will have first timer to punish. If they dont and you can reverse full clear, youll be on dragon with 1k spent, while enemy must choose between farming respawning camps or contesting you at dragon with less gold. Its a back and forth, where both sides have arguments why each strat is better. For me Agurins strat seems more controllable and stable, and you are not reliant on the enemy to not invade you at respawning raptors. I tried both strats multiple times in EUW Diamond, and so far I can tell that I like Agurins strat more. Oftentimes I was ganking bot after reset before farming my blue camps. Even when I got a kill it was not worth because: my red side camps respawn faster than I can clear my blue side, and my enemy can take them now, while his camps were on cd for respawn. I was suddenly a lvl down, although I made a good gank. When you gank after full clear, or even after resetted full clear, there is nothing enemy jgl can take away from you in return, so its a very good play. imo this rap-red-crugs route is only good when you want MUST impact the sidelanes b4 enemy jgl. Youll be there surprisingly early, and you dont show your starting location.
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This is the Jaymo x Tarzaned double coaching I imagine in an alternate Universe where Jaymo isn't mentally ill and is actually a legit challenger player 😂
hmm
DON'T disrespect jayGOAT like that again or else 😠😠😠
@@PuffDaGoat jaymo a goat for the top laners dont forget it
And doesn't touch kids
@@zenyatta5064 is he legit a pedo? I keep seeing comments about that lmao, tell me the story if he is
the enemies to lovers arc we deserved
finally
I read that as C9 Emenes. Alt account = Caitlyn.
hiii
this video just made my day. i felt so sorry for dantes everytime tarzaned flamed him like an older brother
yes
i imagine Dantes having eyes going two different ways while listening Agurin and Tarz at the same time and im not surprised he couldnt take a proper decision, its like the voice were back
It's like the voices are back and are stronger than ever
I did not expect tarzaned to say such kind words to you lmao
Tarz respects anyone who tries hard and is good at the game he’s like Tyler nice irl but in game not a good person
@@teddyzhang3091 When he isn't calling people slurs in private and threatening their career by unfairly striking their content, I'm sure he is a very nice dude.
@@garrettwright9122the slur thing was years ago, he admitted that he was a reject 20y old
And the strike was fair chase is a leech.
Zaned is a stream personality bro
@@emptyarms6113 lmfao no
So far the main disagreements were the theoretical perfect play and ignoring bad players vs adapting to the teammates mistakes to get the most value and impact out of it.
And the level 1. First clear.
ye p much, imo tarzaned has a stronger point in terms of solo q. bad players are annoying because unless you are 20 kills turbo carry you HAVE to play around them or else the game is just doomed
@@frawstey281but that is definitely dependant on which elo you play in. I would argue that the mindset of Agurin fits his elo really well, but both mindsets have a good foundation
@@nearlyalmostdeadexactly. Agurin is a better competive player, while Tarzaned is a solo queue 1v9 streamer
Its like GTO-Poker vs Exploitative Poker theory
That was surprisingly respectful from Tarzaned, at least towards Argurin.
yea because Agurin is 10x better and he cant say shit
Argurin is a very good player and I think most players who play the jungle role respect him also.
Tarz is also a very good player and people should respect him as such.
They are some of the few really amazing western junglers we have who stream it. So its really cool to see them talk about the game!
@runswithevelynn4869 everyone knows Argurin is good, I was just surprised Tarzaned dropped the persona as much as he did. Tarzaned was pretty genuine in his thought about the game and about argurin, he stayed in character in terms of trolling Dantes, but I honestly expected him to be more troll and less real than he was because... well I've watched tarzaned videos before lol.
It was actually a very nice vibe. You should do this more often. The differing thought processes are very interesting
loved this, i didnt think there was genuine beef or dislike for yall during korea, but seeing everyone in a call getting along is dope
dies
"getting hit by the bubble is very... ... ... suboptimal"
There's Solarbacca vs Adrian in the toplane and I have to watch an autist playing Hecarim while he's being co-piloted by a sociopath and the jungler who weaksides me every game in EUW... damn
According to another commenter, Solarbacca uploaded that game?
love the content , my 3 favourite junglers in 1 vid
hello , i pref agurin u know why , bc he is more pro , he can turn back the game in a loss , tarzan is a bully , dante he is a focus enemy jungler mental , but agurin he have some of all , if can know how to win , agaist a huge loss game , u are the best never tilt and lose mental u are soo good
@@benkhessibghaith4664totally, and rank 1 korea prove it
ngl this video got me dead laughing
dante: fck with passive jungler im the gigachad
also dante: LETS GO AGURIIIIIIIIIIIN COACH ME!!
i love u guys ngl :D
never thought this colab would ever happen, AND NOW i need moreeeee!
i wanna thank dante for this vid, it was so huge to hear them ball their diferent opinions and why they think about them.
this should like almost get an academic award
What an amazing collab that I always wanted :')
watching Tarzaned play in Challenger NA is the best thing you can do to make you feel better, his people no joke run it down on repeat for hours on him it's actually super entertaining because Dr. Zaned knows it's happening and still gets pissed
Dantes bringing in 2 best jglers from NA and EU to coach him was the best 🤣
im soon 28yo, ive been watching league content since i was a kid, and this is legit the best concept vid out there, i wanna give this 1000000likes
im learning alot
What we need is a full 5 man of coaches and Dante's so he can learn team macro cause the scrims weren't IT. And I except Dante's to be HIM.
so fun to watch this informative vids
Now lets see Agurin coach Tarzaned and Tarzaned coach Agurin
there would be nothing to coach outside of very small things like perfect clear etc they have totaly diffrent playstyles
then lets make agurin play the way tarzaned tells him to and the otherway around, wothout complainments, even if they would do it different themselves
@@einfachyusi5961 then why pro players get coached
@@vladimir4526I think those coaches just do vod reviews
"what do you mean? i did a perfect clear." - Dantes after taking over 10 seconds slower than perfect hecarim clear while using an extra smite
For me the key takeaway of this video is that Tarzened and Agurin aren't divided by "proactive" and "reactive" jungling playstyles. Most of their different opinions on pathing are based on minimally different understandings of what the results of the decisions would be. 9/10 of their differences when they listened to what the other one said they either agreed or said "are you sure that would happen?" they never said "I think that's too reactive" or "I'm not comfortable and would prefer to react to what others are doing". If anything, I would say the main difference in their playstyles is champion pool.
EDIT: In fact at the end, Agurin said to make the play that he believed was correct, and Tarzaned told him to react off his team mates. Sounds pretty reactive playstyle to me. Tarzaned is a reactive jungler confirmed.
such a great video! I watch a lot of your streams but my low elo brain doesn't come close to understanding your decision makings. This video is so helpful! Made me think about jungling more strategically
the gangplank in the first game is actually solarbacca . he posted his video of this game on youtube .
buying pink wards is probably the biggest most helpful advise agurin gave to dontes
5:29 that "what the fuck" after seeing neeko support is unbelievable funny to me.
I would love to have such deep dives for the adc role. Awesome video!
the two older jungle god brothers teaching their younger sibling 😍
It was so funny listening to them argue over potential lvl 1 Riven invade cheese, only to see Riven getting clapped by GP level 1 xD
Min 1.00.00 i think both plays are good/would work.
1. Top play is the standart play and more „high elo“ gameplay
2. Darius is inting and you could „Adaptation“ like tarzaned says and play to cover Darius
Me agreeing with Agurin on everything he says, insulting Dantes out loud and the queuing back into my silver games like:
lmao love u agurin so calm and collective keep it up
how the turns have tabled
I love this video ahah Dantes had a rly good idea with the video there
This is so amazing to watch ❤
“It could be chill” 😂😂😂
dantes pink ward thing is hilarious
This is radioactive coaching
I Love how Dantes gets bullied by 2 Coaches now
Hard agree, i absolutely do not understand how Briar's winrate is so low.
Also, since W CD starts on first cast, with Shojin, if you W right at the end of your W, you can WW again almost instantly if that makes sense, getting two execute/healing autos in quick succession.
Her W is tricky to play with as you can overcommit, and a lot of lower elo players arent used to playing at low hp for pwoer spikes. That being said i have no idea why higher elo also has low WR lol
one of your best videos, keep it up Agurin
dantes gettin torn in two
I find it really cool you guys did that. Big from you augurin to show up on that call for somone that publicly kept insulting you. But i also was surprised that Dantes was quite humble. Also Tarzaned ... how can he not pass 1 minute of coaching without saying fuck xD
I feel Dantes has always been humble... just a lil... out there in regards to his tangents, exaggerated for the sake of content, i feel.
dantes never insulted agurin bruh. He has always said agurin is better than him.
There was quite a bit of banter sure, there were never any ill will or actual insults
it's all for show, lil bit of drama draws viewers to both streamers
Dantes needs a lot more than coaching... A mental institute would do it.
Two of the best Jungle kings in the world much love and respect ❤❤😊 and Dante’s is still on the way up
Omg i waiting for this so long
solarbacca in the top lane lol
we need the real legend coach JAYMO
Need more, that was so fun ^^
Solarbacca casually shitting on Riven
I think Tarzaned could find players in EU to play with as alot of people in EU are chill and do not all pride themselves on their accomplishments ingame.
So wholesome!
That last play you discussed is what makes euw better at macro in challenger they don't just follow plays, but they think about the optimal play and execute on it.
Or at least it's a total soloqueue mindset to hover darius and wait around
this was the funniest shit ever, and kind of informative too.
As the best jungler in eu I agree with a few points but u still got a lot to learn.
having 6 cleavers gave you over 100% armour pen. Back then because of spaghetti code you did over 100% damage because armour would go into the negatives giving a damage BONUS instead of damage reduction. That was wild man
i love watching two dads coach their son 👍
AGURIN TOLD ME TO SHOVE 😂😂
Love this content
agurin is on another level
Is VOD review also uploaded to yt?
This FORMAT is AAMAZING! Wow!
Man really was saving Ghost for the next game, eh?
That didn’t age well
Reactive jungler and proactive jungler coach Dantes
Unironically this is kinda cool.
Casual Adrian vs Bacca top lane in the background.
its like having 2 dads
Fun but too nice. Perfect summary! 😅
this is so good to watch:D
Mom gank’d Dante’s, MomDiff Pog
cool concept
What Programm used Dante’s with the overlay on early screen ?
cool content and very informative
good one
Thats adrian riven!
the german Tarzaned XDXDXD
That was very funny i like i like
4:50 actually Diana can do 3 camps and reset to a dark seal, finish de blue side in less than 3:30 and contest her own chickens at lv 4
Its not about being at your own chickens fast enough. Almost every champ can be at chickens at 4:00 mins after resetting and buying one item. Its about the enemy jgl, who resetted after 6 camps, bought 2 small item components, then walks to your raptors, and beats you with stats because they have 700 gold spent and you only spent 350. I saw this at Agurins stream multiple times: he full clears (no crab), spents 700g, walks to enemy raptors and takes them, while his own camps are waiting to respawn. You give the enemy Jungler an opportunity to spent more efficient time on the map and put yourself in a scenario where you cannot contest own raptors 1 v 1. Basically this strat means both junglers will have desynced recalls and different timers where they can punish each other. With the downside that enemy jgl will have first timer to punish. If they dont and you can reverse full clear, youll be on dragon with 1k spent, while enemy must choose between farming respawning camps or contesting you at dragon with less gold. Its a back and forth, where both sides have arguments why each strat is better. For me Agurins strat seems more controllable and stable, and you are not reliant on the enemy to not invade you at respawning raptors. I tried both strats multiple times in EUW Diamond, and so far I can tell that I like Agurins strat more. Oftentimes I was ganking bot after reset before farming my blue camps. Even when I got a kill it was not worth because: my red side camps respawn faster than I can clear my blue side, and my enemy can take them now, while his camps were on cd for respawn. I was suddenly a lvl down, although I made a good gank. When you gank after full clear, or even after resetted full clear, there is nothing enemy jgl can take away from you in return, so its a very good play.
imo this rap-red-crugs route is only good when you want MUST impact the sidelanes b4 enemy jgl. Youll be there surprisingly early, and you dont show your starting location.
I was planning to not see Briar gameplay till I buy her, but it is this trio in voice chat so I lost.
I'm trying to reach nirvana threw Meditation, but how can I focus when RUclips offers so much nice content fml
how can I see the timers of the jungle camps like in the video? :O
Dantes 'Best jungler eu' I'd rather say best solo queue player and jungler in the world (and not even kidding)
That it was to nice made u all likeable and the Video kinda wholesome so don't worry ❤😊
wow nice to see you
Can’t avoid hearing that guys voice on RUclips league lately it feels like :
What is the program he uses at the beginning to see what type of dmg each champion does?
Astronomy for Leage players
wait, Moe is back!!!
Why is Neeko icon weird looking?
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We need Jaymo for the trifecta
Dantes getting flamed by team while 2 of the best junglers in the world tell him what he should do is peak league of legends for me.
I would play with tarzaned, but i am first trying briar top after what i saw xD
Peak content
Tarzaned big XD
"agurin is 500iq" LMAO
in DUS we'll see dantes vs agurin