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Another difference between the American and Japanese was their training doctrine. Japanese pilots, technicians and other specialists were assigned to an individual ship and stayed with that ship for the majority of their careers with few opportunities of reassignment, especially to a training unit, which most Japanese pilots considered a demotion. If that pilot ended up getting killed, that training and experience was lost. Whereas if an American pilot showed a high level of knowledge and expertise, they were usually sent back to the US, where they would be assigned as an instructors, then be rotated back to the fleet to learn new equipment and tactics.
This same philosophy came back to haunt the Japan's Midway battle plans in the aftermath of the Battle of the Coral Sea. The carrier Shokaku was badly mauled in the battle, but its aircraft wings were still fairly intact. By contrast, the Zuikaku was relatively undamaged, but it lost most of its aircraft. If this had happened in the US Navy, the planes would have been assigned to the undamaged carrier, which the Americans effectively did when it transferred aircraft from the Saratoga which was in drydock for a refit to the Yorktown. Had the Japanese followed the American practice they would have had five carriers instead of four, which could have swung the battle into their favor. In fact the odds would have been even greater because it was believed that the Shokaku had the best torpedo squadrons in the fleet.
That's quite a change from how things were when the war began. In the opening days, we were outnumbered and outgunned by better trained personnel, who also had experience. We did what we could until we could build more stuff and train more men. Once the war industry got into full production, and we had learned some lessons (and incorporated them into our training), the tables turned. After Midway, it was Japan who had to worry about being outnumbered and outgunned, by an enemy who was learning quickly. Giving credit where credit is due, I can't help but admire the courage and dedication of the Japanese. What they accomplished was impressive, if brutal. Don't mistake that observation for pro-Japanese sentiment (at least not Imperial Japanese). I you ever start feeling bad for them, remember their multitudinous war crimes. I feel no pity, especially for the higher echelons of command. None. Zero.
Battle of midway should be a big highlight of the curriculum in high school US History classes. Respect and honor to all the men who fought and died in WW2!
Midway and Guadalcanal allowed for a reset of the Pacific war. There were no major battles between the US and Japan in 1943. Japan went to war with what it had, the US went to war with what it could build. Japan did not have the resources to replace the 4 carriers and the planes lost at Midway. It did not have the resources to replace the men lost at Guadalcanal. The US spent 1943 building carriers, other ships, planes and training marines. Come 1944 the US turned all that industrial firepower at Japan.
They had the ability to build more aircraft carriers. They did not however have the ability to replace all the experienced and seasoned pilots they lost at Midway.
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 the pilot shortage issue only became a problem in mid 1944. The IJN has 1,500 pilots at the start of the war. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Navy_Air_Service See link above under Organization. At Midway also many of the pilots survived because they were not actually flying at the time the carriers were hit. Fuchida was on Akagi and made it off but broke both ankles. He spent time as a staff officer afterwards and was promoted to Captain. He must have trained pilots. Genda was also a skilled aviator and still flew in combat missions and he also trained and was commander of the 343rd Fighter Group. I don’t know why there is always this misconception here. Read their comments. They both state that the IJN pilots were very capable if they had the right type of plane. The Hellcat coming along in 1943 changed a lot of things and the Us recovering an intact A6M greatly helped the US. What most also don’t understand is that while the IJN had much more fighting experience to start the war many of those same pilots were flying older technology planes such as the A5M and some even bi-planes. I have no pilot training whatsoever but I’m pretty sure once you go to a more capable fighting machine the better the pilot you become. The irony for the US pilots is that going from a F4F-3 non folding wing to the F4F-4 folding wing Wildcat was a downgrade. It was heavier and 2 added guns with the same amount of ammo expended their ammo much quicker. The Hellcat was a huge improvement. The A6M was at a severe disadvantage.
There were 13 significant battles during 1943, against the Japanese. Not as big as Midway, or Guadalcanal, but still costs alot of lives and ships. From the Battle of the Rennell Islands, to the Battle of Cape St. George, which alone, almost completely wiped out the 4 ship, Japanese Destroyer Squadron 23. Sinking 3, heavily damaging the fourth. That's just one.
@@f430ferrari5 yaaaa. They had pilots but they were flying literal boxes with wings. They had amazing speed and a great turn radius but NO armor and a simple machine gun fitted. So when it was 1 on 1 they did well. But when squadron battles occured they got decimated in the air. Also, its not like England or Germany who were known for aerial dominance. There was not thousands of people lining up to fly like the latter two. So ya, they were pretty much always at a disadvantage in the air albeit still good pilots.
There was so much more to Midway, though. The US Navy wasn't just aware of the IJNs plans, they took advantage of those plans by deliberately setting up an ambush. The Japanese had several opportunities to realize that it was a trap and retire, but their rigid thinking doomed them. Japanese fire prevention and damage control was also woefully inadequate. That was at least as much responsible for the loss of their Kido Butai fleet as the attacks themselves. 3 of those carriers were lost to damage that the USS Yorktown survived no less than 3 times.
I just love the turnaround time for repairing poor Yorktown and getting her back to sea! _That_ was the fabled American ingenuity! I do feel badly for the crew and workmen who died when she was sunk for good, though….that always quells any other feeling.
The reasons the US Navy won the battle of Midway comes down to three factors. 1) the code breaking that allowed the US Navy to suprise the JIN. 2) Luck and the fog of war. 3) Constant piecemeal attacks for several hours that kept the Japanese carriers constantly off balance. When the Japanese were finally ready to attack with a full force, they were surprised by dive bombers and sunk.
I consider Midway to be the turning point of the Pacific war. The Japanese lost so many men and air craft carriers that it wouldn't be able to focus on attacks and invasion against Hawaii ever again. They would be fighting a defensive war after that.
If we actually think about it. Nimitz is most likely the one who decided to send forces to the Eastern Solomons / Guadalcanal after the Battle of Midway. The US pushed the battle down south and the IJN took the bait. The US wasn’t even in that great of a position to take the battles down south. However, if the US made no move at all but instead took defensive measures to still protect Midway / Hawaii then they would have show their cards and the IJN would have no doubt focused on another possible attack. In 1942, even after Midway the IJN had the edge and didn’t even realize it. They still had Carriers Zuikaku and Shokaku and they also completed a mid size carrier Hiyo 53 planes in July 1942. So the IJN still had 7 carriers total. Junyo, Ryujo, Zuiho, and Hosho plus the 3 previously mentioned. More important is that the IJN also completed Battleship Musashi in August 1942. What the IJN probably should have done is attack Midway yet again in late July but approach the battle much differently. Send the surface ships out front. 11 battleships, 20 cruisers, 60 destroyers with 7 carriers. They could have still mustered up 325-350 planes or so. 1. Shokaku 84 2. Zuikaku 84 3. Hiyo 53 4. Junyo 48 5. Ryujo 45 6. Zuiho 25-30 7. Hosho 10-15 Shell Midway at night with their battleships. The US didn’t have much in their arsenal. Yorktown was sunk. So the US has Enterprise, Hornet, Saratoga, and Wasp. 2 of those carriers may have met a similar fate in being hit by IJN sub torpedos. The US still had junk torpedos and didn’t have many armor piercing bombs so they couldn’t have caused much damage to any of the IJN surface ships. Instead of Battle of Savo Island it may have been 2nd Battle of Midway surface engagement and the US would have lost badly like they did at Savo Island. The IJN carriers would have been used more for CAP but they would still have enough bombers because they still took out Hornet later and damaged Enterprise. If all this was happening near Hawaii then things change dramatically. It obviously would have even been much easier for the IJN had they led with surface ships at the Battle of Midway. They blew it.
@@maxhouse2409 to me sending the Aleutians force over to Midway wouldn’t have helped much had the IJN stuck with their lead carrier strike approach. They most likely would have made sacrificial lambs of Carriers Junyo and Ryujo but isn’t it logical to assume that some of the other 4 main carriers would have been damaged also? The key is what are the IJN surface ships doing. The US Naval War College already stated that had the IJN used their powerful Main Force which included 7 battleships then they should have defeated the Americans. In reality they probably didn’t even need the Aleutians Force but it certainly would have helped. Without the Aleutians Force, the IJN has as part of the Main Force and Occupation Force and Mobile Force 11 battleships, 17 cruisers and 49 destroyers. They also had 2 light carriers Zuiho and Hosho but they were carrying a strange mixture of planes. Hosho had 8 bi-planes. She could have easily carried 15 A5M’s. Zuiho had a plane capacity of 30 and could have been loaded with 2/3 fighters or all A6M’s. The 4 main carriers could have also been loaded with 2/3 fighters and just 1/3 bombers. More planes per carrier would have been used also. The A6M was single manned. The torpedo 3 and dive 2. The fighter planes were smaller for more storage capacity and also lighter with less bombs needed. So instead of just 248 attack planes with only 80-85 being cap the IJN total planes would have been 371: 1. Akagi 91 2. Kaga 90 3. Hiryu 73 4. Soryu 72 5. Zuiho 30 6 Hosho 15 With at least 2/3 being fighter planes that’s nearly 250 fighter planes for CAP and 121 as bombers. Please keep in mind that the carrier force is behind the surface ships. The fighter planes can catch up to the surface ships up front to provide CAP. The battleships would be used to shell Midway at night. Fast cruisers and destroyers groups are on a search and destroy mission of any US vessels. They have CAP also. Example - A Northern Task Force consisting of 1 Kongo class battleship and 6 cruisers and 12 destroyers can go past Midway and search for enemy vessels. Behind is Carrier Hiryu to provide CAP. A back up group between this Northern Task Force could have Carrier Soryu along with 4 cruisers and 8 more destroyers. Carriers Zuiho and Hosho are behind and providing additional CAP for Hiryu and Soryu. The Midway attack force has the remaining battleships which surround Midway and begin shelling at night to start the battle. The battleships had subs out ahead and have the remaining cruisers and destroyers as screening vessels. Carriers Akagi and Kaga supply CAP. The US Midway planes are neutralized due to the shelling at night. The US carrier planes where ever they are positioned have a dilemma on which body of vessels they will attack. Or will they attack? The torpedo planes would have taken off first. The IJN had way more CAP now. The US carrier planes wouldn’t have survived or gotten through to any carrier. The biggest closest target would have been Battleship Yamato. But it’s true still. Now imagine even if two more mid size carriers were present at Midway. They would have also had 5 more cruisers and 15 destroyers.
@@f430ferrari5 Thanks for the explanation. The Japanese also had intelligence failures (fresh water condenser at AF ruse) and table top exercise confirmation bias (the 3 USA carriers were not to be stationed at Point Luck as this was deemed impossible.) The German table top for Operation Barbarossa run by Paulus and Thomas was not allowed to take supply difficulties as a variable as another example of bias on the part of the Axis powers.
@@maxhouse2409 thanks for the response. The intelligence failures which occurred though wouldn’t have come to much fruition so long as the IJN put their surface ships up front and used the high vessel advantage to their favor. This is why the US Naval War College simply concludes that had the powerful Main Force been used then they should have defeated the Americans. There really wasn’t a way for the US to counter attack or even surprise the IJN and stop their offensive assault. One additional note. Had the IJN contemplated and planned with a surface ship approach they probably would have concluded that Carrier Zuikaku would be brought along too and simply manned with fighter planes for the most part. She is kept back behind the primary carrier force for additional CAP. The first battle of Wake Island and the Battle of Coral Sea should have taught the IJN valuable lessons but they didn’t pick up on it. They should have realized limited area bombing with only 500lb bombs is ineffective in neutralizing an island. They then got in too close with destroyers and paid the price. A bit of irony is that the IJN did use their Kongo class battleships to shell Henderson Field at Guadalcanal later in 1942. As for Battle of Coral Sea, the IJN certainly should have figured out to that it is pure nonsense to engage in carrier vs carrier and planes vs planes battles when the odds are near even. It cost the IJN too many bombers and bomber crew also. Considering Battleship Musashi was being completed by August 1942 and the IJN knew Carrier Hiyo was being completed in July 1942 it was a perfect time to utilize Battleship Yamato and provide her with necessary CAP. She could fire from the greatest distance and launching a 3,200 lb shell is a lot different than a 500lb bomb. You may not be aware of this but the USN had junk torpedoes and they lacked armor piercing bombs. Even if any US planes got through any CAP they wouldn’t have been able to cause much damage to any of the IJN battleships. The US carrier planes attacking the IJN carriers would have been challenging also because they would have been out of range for a return flight back.
Before Midway the Japanese controlled the Pacific end to end, after Midway the Japanese were on the defensive as America's industrial might would now overtake and crush them. At the beginning of WW2 the U.S. had 5 large aircraft carriers. Less than 4 years later the U.S. had 25 large aircraft carriers and 75 smaller aircraft carriers. The U.S. was the deathstar on Earth, it just took about two years to get up to full speed. By the end of WW2 the U.S. alone was producing 1/2 of all industrial output by humans on Earth.
The US was fighting the Battle of the Atlantic, had the 8th Air Army Air Corp bombing Axis controlled Europe, was sending lend lease to the other Allied nations, fought in North Africa, Sicily, Italy, Normandy, France, Holland, and Germany. All the while also fighting across the Pacific. Then to top it off, paid to rebuild both Western Europe and Japan.
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 That's true. As the Japanese said, "we have awoken a sleeping giant". However, you need to consider the fact that the war wasn't fought on US soil, since oceans to the east and west isolate it from the European infighting. Thus, it was one of the few nations that profited from the war and effectively ended European domination of the globe.
The Battle of the Coral Sea should have been a wake-up call for the Japanese. While both sides suffered similar losses and no advances were made, it was the first time Imperial Japan had known anything but victory in their entire Pacific campaign.
Exactly, Dylan. Someone STILL needs to make a documentary about how it was American agriculture, American oil, and American industrial might that saved the world from totalitarian domination. The Allies had absolutely no hope of defeating the Axis powers without the benefit of American supplies of every sort. It was in October of '43 that American aircraft production reached the goal of 8000 planes PER MONTH. And 1000 of that 8000 were "heavy bombers," meaning they were 4-engine bombers. That's 263 planes per day; 11 planes every hour, around the clock, all year. America had 4% of the world's population and yet we built 40% of all aircraft manufactured during the war. And that's after getting into the war LATE. Go to 39:50 ---> ruclips.net/video/atnUl5WafOw/видео.html And that's just the aircraft. We haven't talked agriculture, oil, ships, tanks, artillery, vehicles, or small guns yet. We sent the Soviet Union 64,000 trucks during the war. Visualize a parking lot with 64,000 deuce-&-a-halfs in it. William S. Knudsen, FDR's man in charge of war production, said, "We won because we smothered the enemy in an avalanche of production, the like of which he had never seen, nor dreamed possible."
Yes America lost many planes and had no hits until they bomed the 3 carriers in ten minutes They also had lots of luck! (and good intelligence and a very determined leader - Adminral Nimitz)
Yamamoto blew it big time! Too complicated and didn’t work as a unit. If they had their smaller carriers (3) and battleships ahead of Nagumo they would have won easy!
Midway was significant for the simple fact it was fought entirely by aviation not ship to ship combat. About 350 US Naval aviators beat back and sink a 4 carrier strike force. From then on the Japanese were on the defensive. Even as the Japanese still showed offensive intent on some fronts the US began to sortie main force Naval units into the Pacific. The annihilation of the Empire was a matter of human sacrifice by US military forces culminating in the Atomic bombing of Japan. The United States the only nation on the face of the earth to attack an enemy using Atomic weapons. We are still that.....Thats what keeps us relatively a FREE NATION.
Not exactly a proud moment but a necessary one. The president is charged with protecting his people and nation. If they had developed a Japanese bomb that would kill every Japanese in the world to save one American life it would be the president's duty to deploy said weapon. Sorry folks but it's true and real!
One of the FLAT Tops was Quite Damaged, and returned to Pearl, for repairs, so they wrote it off, 30days later it was BACK IN SERVICE! THE ENEMY SENT SPOTTERS OUT IN ALL DIRECTIONS!! Except where we where in cloud Cover, when they did they Found more Flat Tops thus MORE PLANES!! THEY should have NOT messed With US,A ND it got Bad for THEM!!
Why do some Historians still hold to the view that Japanese Navy had intentions of attacking the US west coast. Midway was a battle that the Japanese though, if they won, it would give them time. Time to build a defensive perimeter around their new empire. The Japanese knew that the American industrial strength would soon overtake them. They wanted to make it very costly for the Americans, so when they come back in strength, the costly battles would force them to the negotiation table.
Historians still hold to the view that Japanese Navy had intentions of attacking the US west coast. Wayne Patterson --- The Japanese Navy actually did attack the "US west coast" on a number of occasions with submarines and submarine launched aircraft. The Japanese Army also conducted attacks upon the United States from Alaska to the Midwest using more than 9,000 balloon bombs in OPERATION FU-GO from November 1944 to April 1945. Emperor Hirohito prohibited Japanese Army plans to equip the balloon bombs with biological weapons for fear of reprisal by the Americans with biowarfare weapons. The Imperial Japanese Navy in 1942 planned and in 1943-1945 constructed the I-400 Class of aircraft carrier submarines for thepurpose of attacking the U.S. East Coast cities such as New York City and the West Coast cities such as San Diego, Long Beach, San Francisco, Seattle/Bremerton, etc. with future Japanese atomic bombs. When it became evident the Japanese atomic bombs would not become available before Japan's inevitable defeat, OPERATION CHERRY BLOSSOMS AT NIGHT was planned to use the I-400 Class submarines to launch Aichi M6A Seiran aircraft carrying biological bombs loaded with plague-infected fleas designed to start a black plague pandemic in San Diego and the U.S. West Coast scheduled for September 1945. This plan too was canceled due to fears of American reprisals. The next plan to be canceled called for the use of the I-400 class aircraft carrier submarines to launch air bombardment and/or Kamikaze attacks against the Gatun Locks at the Panama Canal. In the aftermath of the Japanese raid upon Hawaii and Pearll Harbor on 7 December 1941 there was a concern for potential Japanese carrier task force raids against targets on the U.S. West Coast. Previously the American leadership did not consider such raids against the U.S. West Coast to be possible, because the Japanese task forces were not supposed to have the necessary fuel range to reach the U.S. West Coast or Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. Although the Japanese carriers had the necessary range to reach Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Territory of Hawaii, the escorting surface war ships did not have the necessary range. U.S. Naval Intelligence correctly believed the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) did not have an UNREP (Underway Replenishment) capability for the refueling of surface warships while underway on the high seas. In the absence of an UNREP capability the IJN did not have the capability of conducting a carrier air raid against Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. What the U.S. Naval Intelligence did not know was how Admiral Yamamoto had ordered the secret development of an UNREP capability to be developed and tested in secret on the high seas while the surface warships for the attack upon Pearl Harbor were enroute to their pre-raid rendezvous at Etorufu Island. In other words, the Japanese capability for UNREP refueling was developed for the first time specifically for and during the Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor. The Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor made it obvious to the American naval and military leadership that the IJN extended the combat range of its carrier task forces with a previously unknown UNREP capability. Such a new Japanese capability caused some of the American leadership to question whether or not the Japanese could thenceforth extend the combat range of their carrier task forces far enough to also reach the U.S. Pacific Coast. The 1942 Japanese attack upon Dutch Harbor, Alaska and invasions of Attu and Kiska in the Aleutian Islands of Alaska further prompted concerns about the true effective combat range of Japan's carrier task forces. The Japaense war planners recognized their capability for invading Hawaii was limited and questionable. Nonetheless, Admiral Yamamoto kept that option open for further consideratoin pending a successful Japanese capture of Midway Island. Other Japanese war planners looked ahead to potentially extend future Japanese operations in Alaska to leapfrog down the Alaskan and Canadian coastlines to establish Japanese air bases within range of Seattle and Bremerton and a new capability to conduct air bombardments of the Boeing aircraft plants and the U.S. Navy shipyards. There was also some concern for the Japanese to use their 99 year leased real estate at Magdalena Bay, Baja California, Mexico as a future base for submarine and air operations against the Southwest United States.
They were of the opinion that they had to be able to attack the west coast if they were ever going to get the US to negotiate under favorable terms. They spent years and a ton of resources building balloons filled with high explosives for example, all for purpose of bombing the west coast only to find out, the balloons didn't go where they were suppose to.
You're right and I always here bugs bunny's voice at the point regarding how the Japanese thought the U.S. would not fight to the end with all the bloody battles to come. "He don't know me verrwy well do he?"
Yes, so many sacrifices by Germans and Japanese. Never forget what sacrifice really means. "I call on God Almighty to have mercy on the German people. More than 2 million German soldiers went to their death for the fatherland before me. I follow now my sons - all for Germany."
Think. The breaking of the JN-25 naval code made the Midway Island victory possible. The information gained put the U.S.Navy in a position to ambush the Imperial Japanese Navy.
I can’t say I think this was very good on Midway. It is hyper simplified and misses many critical points. Fleet dispersal means little in general since Japanese Anti-air abilities were weak for surface vessels. Coral sea proved that good reconnaissance and knowledge of enemy intentions was the critical oNe two punch that the US to win at midway (also they used the island as well). Also, the America learned at the coral sea superior damage control abilities. Midway also showed tactics that would massively reduce the effectiveness of the Zero (one of the best plans at the start of the conflict) flown by the best naval plots to that point in the war. And the effect of Midway was to end the final attempt to make l triply offensive plans by the Japanese. They would be defensive and reactive from then on. Also the Japanese made less fleet carriers and always would. The Japanese were not in the whole less educated but had a training doctrine that was far more elitist and fatalist and did not change it until it was far too late. The losses at midway were not just irreplaceable Aircraft carriers but also the irreplaceable pilots, deck crews and field based tactical knowledge. Lastly, the Japanese never had a chance to win. The US was not just angry but incensed. This nation that in my the past had passed the Chinese exclusion act out of fear that Chinese would destroy the moral fiber of the nation - was effectively sneak attacked by a former ally and another East Asian nation that clearly wanted to take land the US had. The Japanese always assumed the racism of the west and thought they still could negotiate with the US. I think primarily because most of the intellectuals did secondary college training in Germany, England and France/Belgium. But those that spent time in the US (the vast minority of the intelligentsia) knew the US would never quit and would never surrender. Invading and conquering it was more impossible then China 100 miles off the Japanese coast. They thought the US was a weak democracy and the people were individualist that would be more interested in saving there own lives then dying for the common good or the Emperor (as they would). The Japanese payed the price for these assumptions starting here at midway and up to and including the dropping of the 💣 era that ended the war.
I remember reading that a dauntless plane hit a petrol tank and the pilot said that the fire swept the carrier and burned-out the whole deck so much that all on the deck were burned-out alive ,that's war at its most brutal
Yes, warfare is brutal, whereby political governments are given the descriptive name of "a wild beast" at Revelation 13:1, 2, because they tear to shreds anyone whom they perceive as a threat to their sovereignty. The slaughter of massive numbers of people during both World Wars alone, estimated at over 80 million, shows what political governments have done "to make peace". Here though is what God is going to do in the near future: "Come and witness the activities of Jehovah, how he has done astonishing things on the earth. He is bringing an end to wars throughout the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear; He burns the military wagons with fire."(Ps 46:8, 9; Note: God's personal name is Jehovah, Isa 12:2, KJV) At Daniel 2, it says that through a heavenly government that Jehovah has created, this is what will happen to all political governments and their supporters: "In the days of those kings (or during the time of the 7th world power of Bible history, Britain/America, with the United States being dominate) the God of heaven will set up a kingdom (called God's Kingdom at Matt 6:10) that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever."(Dan 2:44) So complete will this ' crushing ' be that "not a trace of them could be found". Then it says that God's Kingdom "became a large mountain, and it filled the whole earth."(Dan 2:35) The political governments and their supporters that have been brutish in nature, beastly in character, will be gone, opening the way for God's Kingdom to take control of the earth and transform it into a paradise for "meek" ones, as their everlasting "inheritance".(Matt 5:5)
I think that happened aboard the Kaga. The tank was a small, deck top, fuel truck that was blown up into the Kaga's bridge, killing ALL the bridge crew.
Midway was Japan's last chance to win the Pacific Theatre conflict by ending it before America ramped up production. Their best hope was to negotiate concessions from the U.S. Any remaining prospect for that after Pearl Harbor was lost at Midway.
Hit the wrong prompt and did not get to finish. America would not have allowed any concessions at all from the Japanese, especially after Pearl harbor. There was bitter hatred between the two Nations, especially after Pearl harbor.
Perhaps you meant Midway, not Wake…however, when one realizes that the Midway planes scored zero hits on Kido Butai, it became 3 carriers against 4….and when you realizeHornet’s planes did not even make contact with Kido Butai in the morning action, it was effectively 2 against 4.
Mark it's not as disparate as it sounds American carriers were bigger and so they carried more planes. I think the Japanese had somewhere around thirty more orso planes than the US Navy. Numbers don't tell the story our torpedo bomber was a flying brick that is insulting to bricks, and our torpedo was pure junk. Didn't get torpedo fixed until somewhere in 1943. Thank the almighty for the dauntless dive bomber. I've wondered how the battle would have gone had the Japanese sent the other two carriers that were on the Aleutian Islands diversion to Midway. Could have been ugly. Possibly maybe likely downright fugly.
As to whether or not the Battle of Midway was the turning point in the war is definitely Up For Debate. The one thing that is not up for debate was that the Battle of Midway brought the Japanese offenses in the Pacific to a grinding halt. It definitely gave the United States breathing, for the United States Navy Army and Air corps to Garner and train personnel and replace old and outdated equipment with new and more modern weaponry to fight the war on at least an equal footing.
I think Midway and Guadalcanal are the combination punches that put Japan on the ropes. Between the two there was enough damage done to both the Japanese army and navy that they couldn't recover from it, but if we lost either I'm not sure how the story would end.
Holy cow at 12:12 there is video of a coal powered side mounted paddlewheel steamer converted to a training carrier and operating in the great lakes. Probably the USS Wolverine. RARE FOOTAGE almost never seen.
You're right that it's rare video. I don't think I've ever seen motion picture footage of either the USS Wolverine or USS Sable before, only stills. The four stacks you can see in the footage are consistent with the USS Wolverine, but I couldn't find a good enough picture of the USS Sable to make a comparison and I don't know how similar they might have been. That was a good catch on your part. I wouldn't have realized what I was seeing if you hadn't pointed it out.
The Battle of Midway was a decisive battle true. But the true turning point was the invasion Fleet for Port Moresby in the battle of the Coral Sea. It was the first time a Japanese invasion Fleet had been turned back.
The US's suicide attack flights from Midway needs and deserves more coverage. Surely, those heroic young and inexperienced pilots knew they and their substandard planes were the cannon fodder to be sacrificed to set the stage to deplete Japanese aerial defenses which would then open up the Japanese carriers to be attacked by US planes from the US carriers.
Thank you for producing this video clip. The archival video captured visually what it was really like in WWII. However, the choice of the title of the video; "Battle of Midway: Why The Japanese Failed To Destroy The US Navy" is only supported by almost 25% of the entire video duration. The other 75% of the content is not about Midway. I agree that the feature of US workers who built more aircraft carriers and ships during 1942-1945, was appropriate. They not only represented the millions of ordinary Americans who contributed to the war effort (including war bonds), but also cites one of the reasons why the Japanese failed to destroy the US Navy. I would venture further to speculate that even if the Japanese Imperial Navy (IJN) had decimated the existing US naval fleet at Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea or at Midway, it wouldn't be able to match the industrial-military complex of resource-richer USA to rebuild and enlarge its navy on a scale and speed superior to Japan's. There're many other factors why the IJN failed to destroy the US Navy at Midway, or more precisely, all the US aircraft carriers (except for Yorktown). One was the prudence exercised by US admiral Ray Spruance, who kept his flat-tops beyond range of the guns of the Japanese battleships. IJN admirals were initially trying to make up for the loss of their 4 carriers by a night surface engagement with US ships.
@34:43 "Rokossovsky soldiers reached river Bug, the original Polish border" ... One look at any respectable historical atlas will tell you that the last time this river was even near Polish eastern border was in XIV century - prior to union of Krewa (or 1569 if you take the border with Lithuania - an allied state tied with personal union to Poland for two centuries). I certainly was NOT a border river before Second World War. Russians made it a border bettween puppet Kingdom of Poland and Russian Tsardom in 1815, but since that border was not even a customs border (Tsar was to be the King of Poland, and Poles were to have some authonomy, but within two decades all the administration was eventually Russian), that line was a pure fiction. I know it is a minor point, but it's one of those little Russian lies that circulate in western historiography even now. I do hope, that after the invasion of Ukraine, western scholars will take a second and third look at Russian "historical" claims...
The bit about the Dock workers building the 14 carriers, got to me. (11:20) The "rivet" thrower, and the "rivet" catcher. Sure they had to learn to do this, but think of how many rivets went into building even a destroyer. That is a lot of throwing and catching, just imagine that much practice in a sport using balls... Other then golf. Duffers already get to much practice... missing...
There's a story about boeing engineers building the b 42s it goes "what is better rivets or welding?" The engineer's said welding .OK what if your sons are flying that plane? ......."rivets" they went with rivets
Fun fact: if you were to line up all of the rivets used to build Titanic end to end, they'd stretch almost from Boston to NYC, or for my friends across the pond, farther than the distance from Belfast to Liverpool. If you were to stack them, they'd almost reach the altitude of the International Space Station.
Over 100 aircraft carriers were built in the US during WW2, most were very small escort carriers, over 60 I think, then the medium ones 30 or more, and yes, the 14 Essex class carriers were also built. It was close to 120 aircraft carriers of all types, just incredible
Indeed. The IJN, still a relative newcomer on the world stage, was dominated by an overtly offensive doctrine that eschewed investment and attention paid to endeavors that wasn't related to getting planes in the air from below deck as fast as possible and then landing them after the sortie. Development of contingency operations in the event the ship got hit was treated almost like defeatist propaganda which was absurd in the extreme. Things like fire prevention below decks, emergency hull repair, fothering teams, using safe practices with ordinance on and below decks, charging fuel lines with CO² between use, and other reasonable preventative efforts had simply been ignored before. Until the IJN began engaging with the US Navy the many vulnerabilities and hazards it had been exposing itself to through the absence of these better practices simply remained hidden and a nonfactor until it suddenly was thrust upon them after Pearl Harbor. From Midway forward the IJN never was afforded the time to learn from its mistakes and make corrections which in turn would have made the IJN more formidable.
We read their codes. They got ambushed. the B17 strike caused admiral Nagumo to blunder into re-arming his planes. That took time. though they scored no hits the B-17's hit a tactical homerun.
I thoroughly get your point but I wouldn't leave out guts and courage either. I wouldn't fly a paper or even an aluminum airplane into the wall of flack that the pilots did while attacking those ships.
If you're going to put together a video, at least do some research before doing so. Nagumo's decision to rearm to land-based bombs was made BEFORE the Akagi's attack wave planes returned. Nagumo was passed a message from the Kaga's commander as the Kaga dive bomber's leader had notified them via radio that another strike on Midway was required. Next, the order in which the carriers were struck is completely wrong. Akagi was NOT the first carrier hit; it was the last of the three in the first wave. The first was the Kaga. Next, the two pilots (along with their Army Air Corp peers based out of Midway ) at 9:53 were NOT naval flyers and they should've been court martialed for lying. The B17's and 26's never bombed ANYTHING the entire time frame of the battle but their pilots ran their mouths to anyone within earshot, taking sole credit for winning the battle. Fortunately, an inquiry conducted afterward determined the true level of their contribution to the battle.
Actually some of the details are wrong. It seems to me to be a bit warmed over from other videos and not that well researched. Kaga was hit first and then Soryu and then Akagi and the Japanese decks were not about to launch a strike, only a few CAP fighters here and there about to launch. Then they completely ignored about 5 waves of attacks from Midway island on the carriers.
@@jamesgibbs6970 I do think the Japanese carriers wanted to launch their fighters. Our worthless torpedo attacks, I shouldn't say worthless they were quite ineffective although they did bring the Japanese fighter umbrella down to sea level chasing. Japanese wanted to get their zeros back up to altitude to help blunt more US air attacks. The Japanese couldn't launch their fighters with all the shooting and going on and our planes coming in, I know most of the attacks from Midway didn't hit anything but water. No medals for that it was purely by default.
This video is 10% about Midway, the rest is filled with various other short war stories about Europe, Asia etc. to fill up the time, so it looks like this is a detailed long form video about Midway. Very deceptive.
Fun fact Even if the US lost all its ships at midway and Japan lost non , the US was building the largest navy in the world in 16 months anyways. That war was decided before Japan reach Pearl Harbour.
@@Wayne.J Well let's see... 1. Their primary Japanese source is not the official history that they claim it is. 2. That source represents primarily the view of Japanese veterans (some of whom worked on the series), and not historians. 3. They left out statements from contemporary Japanese sources (senior officers aboard the carriers) which directly contradict their central revelation of the battle. 4. They never established that Fuchida was a liar. Fuchida had memory issues even with his memoirs, and over issues of no historical significance at all. They omitted that he accurately recorded that Akagi was attacked by three aircraft, that Akagi 'was' launching some aircraft at the time, and that he recorded the number of hits on the ship. Fuchida in fact made one error. He conflated the launch of the CAP zeroes from Akagi with the launch of the strike which he knew was being prepared. 5. They glossed over the fact that Hiryu's retaliatory airstrike against the U.S. carriers could not have been in her hangars when the dive bomber attack began, because the Japanese couldn't possibly have even spotted the aircraft in time to launch them when they did- and that's according to the authors' own stated time requirements for carrying out such an action. 6. They exaggerated the Japanese aircraft rearming issue. Only 15 aircraft of the reserve force had to be rearmed back to torpedoes for the attack on the U.S. carriers, and Hiryu and Soryu were not effected at all by this at all. The rearming issue was an issue only for the aircraft of the returned Midway aircraft (the Nagumo Report is clear that the attack on the U.S. carriers was a two- wave attack). 7. The authors statement that they know of no instance where Japanese CAP fighters launched from abreast the island is inaccurate. Photos of the carriers at Midway show CAP fighters preparing to launch from there. In one video here on youtube, one of the authors even points this out. I could go on, but this is enough.
I don't get why midway gets so overdramatized, even if Japanese would have won, they would only buy like 6 months, the US was a economic and industrial GIANT, and would outproduce the japanese by 10 fold or even more in naval ships.
Your understanding is way off. The US industrial giant would not become fruition until 1944. Had the US lost at Midway then the war or cease fire would have occurred in 1942. Do you even realize the few vessels the US had left in the Pacific. The US would not have pulled anymore vessels from the Atlantic. They really couldn’t afford to do much more.
Patton didn’t win the Battle of the Bulge for the Allies, obviously. But he was the Allied general the German high command feared most, and I’m sure nobody on the other side was happy to hear that he’d made a miracle happen to hunt them down.
06:57 " With carrier warfare the person who struck first is going to win", he says , as if this isn't true for other forms of engagement : be it gun duel ,tanks, battleships,etc .
Japan used most of its non carrier surface ships tp cover the landings. And then relied on carrier based planes to soften up Midway. Half of the battleships and cruisers could have leveled Midway. And kept all of its air power reserved for the US fleet if it showed up. A Japanese battle group headed for the US position once it was discovered. But it was hundreds of miles away. And by time it arrived on the scene all they found was a devastated carrier force. With the US fleet on its way to Pearl and no where in sight.
Good points but not entirely accurate. Kondo’s Occupation Force did have a decent amount of surface ships but the Main Force had quite a few also. It’s interesting how it’s name “Main” Force did nothing. It’s really the battleships that should have shelled Midway. They could fire from a greater distance especially Yamato. As for the carriers, the plane mixture would have been different. 2/3 fighters would help provide more CAP for the surface ships. The IJN would have had around 10 more planes per carrier with this strategy. The IJN still would have needed fast surface ships up front and pushing beyond Midway after a certain point in the Battle. Carrier Zuikaku would have most likely been brought along and sectioned off in 3 split carrier groups. The aerial bombings would have slowed the US carriers down and the fast IJN surface ships would have finished off the US Task Force.
Kondo would not give up its screen. For without it his carriers were vulnerable. Plus the loss of the US torpedo squadrons gave Kondo a sense of invulnerability. Thus the surface ships were not dispatched until Japan lost three carriers.
@@charleslloyd4253 I don’t believe Kondo have needed to give up its screen or perhaps he would have realized he didn’t need it had the IJN envisioned and developed a better operational battle plan. The IJN had way more vessels than needed. Instead of Kondo’s force being as large as it was it simply could have been reduced and kept further west of Midway. They really should have been more where the Main Force was and thus didn’t need as many vessels. Main Force - 7 battleships including Yamato. Carrier Hosho. 1 cruiser and 8 destroyers. Kondo Invasion/Occupation Force - this had 3 main bodies: - Main Body - 2 Kongo class battleships, 5 cruisers, and 8 destroyers plus Carrier Zuiho - Occupation Force - gang load of transport ships. The Escort Force had 1 cruiser and 11 destroyers and 2 seaplane tenders with 32 planes. - Midway Support Force - 4 cruisers and 2 destroyers. In total without even including the Aleutians Force the IJN had 11 battleships, 6 carriers plus 2 seaplane tenders with actual float planes, 17 cruisers, and 49 destroyers. These vessels could have easily been re-arranged and better positioned. The surface ships should have been sent out in front. They would have distracted any US carrier planes if even out there. Midway is shelled and pummeled by battleships at night to start the battle. It needed to done anyhow to soften up the island defenses. The Occupation Force only moves in days later. The US carriers are wounded by aerial bombs. The fast IJN surface ships catch the slowed down US carriers and finish them off with their long lance torpedos. The IJN had sufficient and vast enough vessels to cut off the US trying to make it back to Hawaii. It really didn’t matter where the US carriers were positioned. Midway was a stationary spot that needed to be defended at all costs.
Good points. Some modern military strategists think that if the Yamato, with her 18 inch guns, and the two carriers on their way to the Aleutians were committed to Midway instead, the battle would have had a different outcome. We’ll never know.
@@oldmike7239 Yes two escort carriers could have covered midway with Zeros and Bettys. But Yamato was fixated on his mainline carriers that gave him fame and promotion. High altitude bombing by B17x were totally ineffective against the invasion force. With a escort carrier with a dozen zeros the B17s would have never made it to a point to drop their bombs. My dad was on the Enterprise at the time having been assigned to her by Nimitz as soon as the tin can that fished him out of the sea when the Lexington went down in the Coral Sea arrived at Pearl. And took part in the intelligence collection for after action reports following Midway. Japan had five escort carriers at the time and they would not have to take two away from the diversion force. But Yamato did not include any in the invasion force. Because they could not keep pace with the bombardment force. And thought if he sent them two days ahead of time. They might be discovered.
The amount of military equipment America produced during the war was phenomenal. The industrial output was a huge factor in winning the war . Yamamoto knew full well what would happen if they stabbed the States in the back and bombed Pearl Harbour
This video when it addresses Bagration ignores a very basic question. Why did the Soviets have so much more armaments than the Germans (tanks, artillery, etc.)? The Germans had a larger industrial base than the Soviets. German steel production far exceeded that of the Soviets. A large part of the answer is that Germany had to use so much of its industry to fight the war in the West. As a result, the Ostheer was not adequately supplied and supported.
That and they also focused too much on quality over quantity unlike the soviets. It took a lot more time and effort to produce a german than a russian tank for instance.
Also, like today, the Germans are over fixated upon quality and engineering. They don’t consider reliability serviceability maintainability and usability. Hence a starter for a Mercedes is $2500
@@jaik195701 You make a very important point. It is not widely understood that the Germans had a much larger industrial base than the Soviets, even before the Germans occupied much of the western Soviet Union. You are absolutely correct that Soviet industrial policy was an important factor as was the failed German industrial policy.
It's a merely sacrifice using an outdated aircraft by the Americans. But they have the gots to do it. Thank u 💓 to all the heroes who fought this battle.
This rendition is so full of holes and leaves out so many details. I surmise that this was the intention in the time allotted. If you want a detailed analysis on how Midway was won, check out Montemayors version. ruclips.net/video/Bd8_vO5zrjo/видео.html&ab_channel=Montemayor
@@f430ferrari5 I completely disagree with you on that. The analysis was pulled from first hand accounts once they became declassified. I watched about 30 versions of the BAttle of Midway. There were simliarities among all of them but many left out so many details. This is one of them
@@dalehahn9752 if you want to see the US Naval War College declassified film vid here it is. ruclips.net/video/S7jR4PGoOOY/видео.html Hopefully it stays.
From 1941 the Japanese were the aggressors until Midway, after Midway The Japanese were the defenders. So yeah! The Battle Of Midway is the turning point of the war in the Pacific.
It should be noted that the attack in the Ardennes in 1944 was NOT the 3rd time in the 20th Century that the Germans had made an attack there... or at least not the third time that they'd put their main effort there... as they hint at with the mention of 1914. While the German army did move through the region in 1914, these were largely auxiliary forces that were covering the flank of the MAIN thrust that went through northern Belgium in 1914 to run the Schlieffen Plan... which was ultimately defeated before Paris in September 1914. And it was this that ultimately lead, in part, to the French expectation in 1940 that the Germans would repeat the Schlieffen Plan's focus on northern Belgium and enabled Manstein's emphasis on the Ardennes to have the surprise that it did in 1940. The rest was that the key lesson that all sides learned about the use of tanks, was that they would do best on more open terrain where their firepower would be better applied... and both Gamelin and Eisenhower would both figure that the main effort would be further north because tanks wouldn't do well in the forests of the Ardennes. What gave Eisenhower an advantage that Gamelin didn't have, was that the Allies in 1944 had better adapted to the nature of German tactics and had better control of the air. In this, while he was surprised in December 1944, Eisenhower wasn't as crippled as Gamelin was and could thus respond far faster. And once the skies cleared, Allied fighters and medium bombers returned to savage the German forces in the open.
The mentioning of 'Blitzkrieg' in the context of Soviet deployment is incorrect. It was 'Deep Battle' which was worse for the Germans since it did not rely on the first echelon, but had several follow-up echelons which the Soviets leveraged.
The war in the Pacific was decided at Pearl Harbour. The attack failed to destroy the oil farm. Whose loss would have ripped the US for up to two years. Once the attack had been made the US was brought fully into WW2. The US industrial might, resources and manpower meant it was inevitable that the US would win. It would have been a very different Pacific war had the Japanese won at midway. But in the long run, Japan would still have been defeated. The win at Midway cut short the defeat of Japan by removing her carriers and carrier pilots.
This battle shows how much the aircraft carrier had taken over naval battles....also shows how pearl harbor was known to happen before it happened...for our Carriers we're not in harbor but safely out to sea.....
Let's not forget that the allied had cracked the JAPANESE NAVAL CODE and the allies new ahead of time all Japan's movements. One example the killing of minister YAMOTO since they knew the itinerary, my take, JV
Don’t recall any Soviet Troops in Western Europe! I did notice Millions of Dollars worth of American Trucks, Tanks, Warplanes, Steel, Aviation Fuel & Food on the Eastern Front however.
They were straight up beaten into the ground . My Father was in Germany when it surrendered he said there was not one road , railway , factory , bridge , airport , port facility almost everything destroyed. Can't fight if your hungry and naked out of ammo , no matter how many were left. Your statement smacks of ignorance and no respect for the forces that beat them. Furthermore Waffen SS forces were barely 20% of total forces . The Wehermacht ( Regular German Army) was way bigger than them. NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
The battle of the Coral Sea the actual high water mark of the Japanese Imperial dreams. And the first time the Japanese invasionally had been turned back. This was the beginning of the end. The Battle of Midway expedited it. When was the actual breaking of the Japanese Fleet. But it was not the turning point. That happened in the Coral Sea.
The japanese commitment attitude cost them the war. Admiral nagumo wanted to complete the bombing operation instead of dealing with the allied navy left them nearly defenseless
But keep in mind nagumo ordered the second strike on Midway before there was any American ship spotted, Japanese felt no threat at all that from the runway on Midway that could launch bombers at the Japanese. Any prudent Commander try and eliminate a single threat when he is not aware of any other threat. What really hurt the Japanese carriers is all the explosives and fuel, we're on the flight decks due to nagumo's indecision. It was not safely stowed and that's when The dauntless dive-bomber showed up. GOODNIGHT IRENE. I believe the second carrier to be hit was buy just one or two bombs but all the explosives exacerbated that immensely. Little details. One or two bombs generally will not sink an aircraft carrier.
Such an interesting topic. And so many pictures that have nothing to do with what was said. There is so much authentic material on the subject, why take material that is completely out of place??? Schade!!! Schade!!
If only Nagumo took the risk of attacking the US carrier with their HE bombs rather than rearming . This is what happens when you let a battleship man take control of an aircraft carrier.
Probably no difference in that Hornet and Enterprise may have been hit also but most likely not sunk. The IJN still would have lost 3 carriers at least and lost a lot of pilots. The IJN needed a different strategy. This person in the vid is correct in that the IJN vessels were poorly positioned where they couldn’t help each other.
I assume you are meaning nagumo should have attacked the US fleet with the bombs on the planes that were meant for the second strike on the runway at Midway. Doing that nagumo would have left himself open to further attack by bombers from Midway even though they were not effective bombers nagumo didn't know that so nagumo would have been facing carrier attack planes and bomber attacks by American bombers from Midway. You just lost your promotion. At the time nagumo ordered the second strike on Midway there was no American ships spotted why not eliminate the runway threat when he wasn't really being threatened.
@@garyhughes2446 The first strike already damage the runway as well as the hangers and fuel depos at midway island and secondly when Nagumo prepared for the second strike a reconnaissance plane already spotted and reported it's findings but Nagumo thought it wasn't important enough and so continued the attack on Midway.
@@andsoiderparound9909 yes the runway was damaged but it was still usable and nagumo didn't want to have more us planes attack him from Midway. And I'm quite sure that the rearming process was already in progress before the scout plane from the Japanese ship Tone spotted the United States aircraft carrier. The Japanese didn't know how many more bombers and attack planes we had on Midway. Admiral nagumo respected our submarine threat to him as it was not well known that our torpedo was junk
@@andsoiderparound9909 admiral nagumo was not the best commander but I don't believe for one minute that he would have ignored a report by his own scout of a United States aircraft carrier in the area, one that should not have been there or according to the Japanese no logical reason for one to be there anyway at that specific time, the Japanese should have been suspicious of that. They were overconfident.
If Japan had taken Midway and destroyed the US carriers Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet, they still would not have been able to mount another attack on Hawaii, let alone the west coast of the US. By the middle of 1942, US troops and Army and Navy aircraft had been built up to the point that an attack by even six Japanese carriers on Hawaii would have been a disaster for the Japanese. The Japanese didn't have the troops or the logistics to mount such an operation. The Japanese Army didn't even want to occupy Midway. If they had occupied Midway, the best thing the Japanese could have done was just leave. If the Japanese had defeated the US fleet at Midway, they would have moved south to finish taking Papua New Guinea. With only the Saratoga and the Wasp available, the US likely would not have taken Guadalcanal. The new Exeter class carriers with the F6F Hellcats did not arrive until the middle of 1943. A Japanese victory at Midway likely would have extended the war another year, but would not have significantly changed the outcome.
In your video about the Japanese fleet you talk about them destroying the Russian fleet - "When they destroyed the Russian fleet, a match for anybody..." You're kidding, right? The Russian fleet barely made it to the Pacific it was in such terrible disarray. In fact they nearly started a war with England on the way because they mistook English naval units for enemy units and opened fire. A match for anybody my Aunt Fanny. Nothing against the Japanese fleet, they were most certainly the most formidable Navy on earth at the time. But the Russians weren't really match for anyone,much less the Japanese
I believe they were discussing the Russo Japanese war in the early 1900’s. A lot of Japanese pacific war strategy for the imperial navy in ww2 was affected by that war.
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Another difference between the American and Japanese was their training doctrine. Japanese pilots, technicians and other specialists were assigned to an individual ship and stayed with that ship for the majority of their careers with few opportunities of reassignment, especially to a training unit, which most Japanese pilots considered a demotion. If that pilot ended up getting killed, that training and experience was lost. Whereas if an American pilot showed a high level of knowledge and expertise, they were usually sent back to the US, where they would be assigned as an instructors, then be rotated back to the fleet to learn new equipment and tactics.
Today's American soldiers will be sent back to the states to watch the latest episodes of the Kardashians.
This same philosophy came back to haunt the Japan's Midway battle plans in the aftermath of the Battle of the Coral Sea. The carrier Shokaku was badly mauled in the battle, but its aircraft wings were still fairly intact. By contrast, the Zuikaku was relatively undamaged, but it lost most of its aircraft.
If this had happened in the US Navy, the planes would have been assigned to the undamaged carrier, which the Americans effectively did when it transferred aircraft from the Saratoga which was in drydock for a refit to the Yorktown.
Had the Japanese followed the American practice they would have had five carriers instead of four, which could have swung the battle into their favor.
In fact the odds would have been even greater because it was believed that the Shokaku had the best torpedo squadrons in the fleet.
Absolutely Right...!!!
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That's quite a change from how things were when the war began. In the opening days, we were outnumbered and outgunned by better trained personnel, who also had experience. We did what we could until we could build more stuff and train more men. Once the war industry got into full production, and we had learned some lessons (and incorporated them into our training), the tables turned. After Midway, it was Japan who had to worry about being outnumbered and outgunned, by an enemy who was learning quickly.
Giving credit where credit is due, I can't help but admire the courage and dedication of the Japanese. What they accomplished was impressive, if brutal. Don't mistake that observation for pro-Japanese sentiment (at least not Imperial Japanese). I you ever start feeling bad for them, remember their multitudinous war crimes. I feel no pity, especially for the higher echelons of command. None. Zero.
Battle of midway should be a big highlight of the curriculum in high school US History classes. Respect and honor to all the men who fought and died in WW2!
They are too busy teaching why you aren't what you are, everything is _____ist, and how great communism is.
Midway and Guadalcanal allowed for a reset of the Pacific war. There were no major battles between the US and Japan in 1943. Japan went to war with what it had, the US went to war with what it could build. Japan did not have the resources to replace the 4 carriers and the planes lost at Midway. It did not have the resources to replace the men lost at Guadalcanal. The US spent 1943 building carriers, other ships, planes and training marines. Come 1944 the US turned all that industrial firepower at Japan.
They had the ability to build more aircraft carriers. They did not however have the ability to replace all the experienced and seasoned pilots they lost at Midway.
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 the pilot shortage issue only became a problem in mid 1944.
The IJN has 1,500 pilots at the start of the war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Navy_Air_Service
See link above under Organization.
At Midway also many of the pilots survived because they were not actually flying at the time the carriers were hit.
Fuchida was on Akagi and made it off but broke both ankles. He spent time as a staff officer afterwards and was promoted to Captain. He must have trained pilots.
Genda was also a skilled aviator and still flew in combat missions and he also trained and was commander of the 343rd Fighter Group.
I don’t know why there is always this misconception here.
Read their comments. They both state that the IJN pilots were very capable if they had the right type of plane.
The Hellcat coming along in 1943 changed a lot of things and the Us recovering an intact A6M greatly helped the US.
What most also don’t understand is that while the IJN had much more fighting experience to start the war many of those same pilots were flying older technology planes such as the A5M and some even bi-planes.
I have no pilot training whatsoever but I’m pretty sure once you go to a more capable fighting machine the better the pilot you become.
The irony for the US pilots is that going from a F4F-3 non folding wing to the F4F-4 folding wing Wildcat was a downgrade. It was heavier and 2 added guns with the same amount of ammo expended their ammo much quicker.
The Hellcat was a huge improvement. The A6M was at a severe disadvantage.
There were 13 significant battles during 1943, against the Japanese. Not as big as Midway, or Guadalcanal, but still costs alot of lives and ships. From the Battle of the Rennell Islands, to the Battle of Cape St. George, which alone, almost completely wiped out the 4 ship, Japanese Destroyer Squadron 23. Sinking 3, heavily damaging the fourth. That's just one.
@@f430ferrari5 yaaaa. They had pilots but they were flying literal boxes with wings. They had amazing speed and a great turn radius but NO armor and a simple machine gun fitted. So when it was 1 on 1 they did well. But when squadron battles occured they got decimated in the air. Also, its not like England or Germany who were known for aerial dominance. There was not thousands of people lining up to fly like the latter two. So ya, they were pretty much always at a disadvantage in the air albeit still good pilots.
@@notaQuackhead369 stay in 1942 because that’s the only time the IJN had a chance. The A6M was just fine going against the US Wildcat.
There was so much more to Midway, though. The US Navy wasn't just aware of the IJNs plans, they took advantage of those plans by deliberately setting up an ambush. The Japanese had several opportunities to realize that it was a trap and retire, but their rigid thinking doomed them.
Japanese fire prevention and damage control was also woefully inadequate. That was at least as much responsible for the loss of their Kido Butai fleet as the attacks themselves. 3 of those carriers were lost to damage that the USS Yorktown survived no less than 3 times.
Ships that would be severely damaged but repairable!
Yorktown outperformed all other Usn carriers
@@rogerfox9028 Why do you say that? The Enterprise flyers nailed two of the four carriers. Yorktown only one. The fourth was a joint operation.
@@dennisweidner288 IIRC shattered sword gives credit to yorktown pilots for hitting 3 Ijn carriers
@@dennisweidner288 are you familiar with the arguement CAG miles browning had with Yorktown pilots?
I just love the turnaround time for repairing poor Yorktown and getting her back to sea! _That_ was the fabled American ingenuity! I do feel badly for the crew and workmen who died when she was sunk for good, though….that always quells any other feeling.
American's also had a 4th, giant, unsinkable, aircraft carrier; Midway Island.
That's MY Island!!
Midway definitely a significant turning point in the war
The reasons the US Navy won the battle of Midway comes down to three factors.
1) the code breaking that allowed the US Navy to suprise the JIN.
2) Luck and the fog of war.
3) Constant piecemeal attacks for several hours that kept the Japanese carriers constantly off balance. When the Japanese were finally ready to attack with a full force, they were surprised by dive bombers and sunk.
I consider Midway to be the turning point of the Pacific war. The Japanese lost so many men and air craft carriers that it wouldn't be able to focus on attacks and invasion against Hawaii ever again. They would be fighting a defensive war after that.
If we actually think about it. Nimitz is most likely the one who decided to send forces to the Eastern Solomons / Guadalcanal after the Battle of Midway.
The US pushed the battle down south and the IJN took the bait. The US wasn’t even in that great of a position to take the battles down south.
However, if the US made no move at all but instead took defensive measures to still protect Midway / Hawaii then they would have show their cards and the IJN would have no doubt focused on another possible attack.
In 1942, even after Midway the IJN had the edge and didn’t even realize it. They still had Carriers Zuikaku and Shokaku and they also completed a mid size carrier Hiyo 53 planes in July 1942.
So the IJN still had 7 carriers total. Junyo, Ryujo, Zuiho, and Hosho plus the 3 previously mentioned.
More important is that the IJN also completed Battleship Musashi in August 1942.
What the IJN probably should have done is attack Midway yet again in late July but approach the battle much differently.
Send the surface ships out front. 11 battleships, 20 cruisers, 60 destroyers with 7 carriers. They could have still mustered up 325-350 planes or so.
1. Shokaku 84
2. Zuikaku 84
3. Hiyo 53
4. Junyo 48
5. Ryujo 45
6. Zuiho 25-30
7. Hosho 10-15
Shell Midway at night with their battleships.
The US didn’t have much in their arsenal. Yorktown was sunk. So the US has Enterprise, Hornet, Saratoga, and Wasp. 2 of those carriers may have met a similar fate in being hit by IJN sub torpedos.
The US still had junk torpedos and didn’t have many armor piercing bombs so they couldn’t have caused much damage to any of the IJN surface ships.
Instead of Battle of Savo Island it may have been 2nd Battle of Midway surface engagement and the US would have lost badly like they did at Savo Island.
The IJN carriers would have been used more for CAP but they would still have enough bombers because they still took out Hornet later and damaged Enterprise. If all this was happening near Hawaii then things change dramatically.
It obviously would have even been much easier for the IJN had they led with surface ships at the Battle of Midway. They blew it.
@@f430ferrari5 Suppose the IJN sent everything to Midway instead of being partly diverted to the Aleutians?
@@maxhouse2409 to me sending the Aleutians force over to Midway wouldn’t have helped much had the IJN stuck with their lead carrier strike approach.
They most likely would have made sacrificial lambs of Carriers Junyo and Ryujo but isn’t it logical to assume that some of the other 4 main carriers would have been damaged also?
The key is what are the IJN surface ships doing. The US Naval War College already stated that had the IJN used their powerful Main Force which included 7 battleships then they should have defeated the Americans.
In reality they probably didn’t even need the Aleutians Force but it certainly would have helped.
Without the Aleutians Force, the IJN has as part of the Main Force and Occupation Force and Mobile Force 11 battleships, 17 cruisers and 49 destroyers. They also had 2 light carriers Zuiho and Hosho but they were carrying a strange mixture of planes. Hosho had 8 bi-planes. She could have easily carried 15 A5M’s. Zuiho had a plane capacity of 30 and could have been loaded with 2/3 fighters or all A6M’s.
The 4 main carriers could have also been loaded with 2/3 fighters and just 1/3 bombers. More planes per carrier would have been used also. The A6M was single manned. The torpedo 3 and dive 2. The fighter planes were smaller for more storage capacity and also lighter with less bombs needed.
So instead of just 248 attack planes with only 80-85 being cap the IJN total planes would have been 371:
1. Akagi 91
2. Kaga 90
3. Hiryu 73
4. Soryu 72
5. Zuiho 30
6 Hosho 15
With at least 2/3 being fighter planes that’s nearly 250 fighter planes for CAP and 121 as bombers.
Please keep in mind that the carrier force is behind the surface ships. The fighter planes can catch up to the surface ships up front to provide CAP.
The battleships would be used to shell Midway at night.
Fast cruisers and destroyers groups are on a search and destroy mission of any US vessels. They have CAP also.
Example - A Northern Task Force consisting of 1 Kongo class battleship and 6 cruisers and 12 destroyers can go past Midway and search for enemy vessels.
Behind is Carrier Hiryu to provide CAP.
A back up group between this Northern Task Force could have Carrier Soryu along with 4 cruisers and 8 more destroyers.
Carriers Zuiho and Hosho are behind and providing additional CAP for Hiryu and Soryu.
The Midway attack force has the remaining battleships which surround Midway and begin shelling at night to start the battle. The battleships had subs out ahead and have the remaining cruisers and destroyers as screening vessels.
Carriers Akagi and Kaga supply CAP.
The US Midway planes are neutralized due to the shelling at night.
The US carrier planes where ever they are positioned have a dilemma on which body of vessels they will attack. Or will they attack?
The torpedo planes would have taken off first. The IJN had way more CAP now. The US carrier planes wouldn’t have survived or gotten through to any carrier.
The biggest closest target would have been Battleship Yamato.
But it’s true still. Now imagine even if two more mid size carriers were present at Midway. They would have also had 5 more cruisers and 15 destroyers.
@@f430ferrari5 Thanks for the explanation. The Japanese also had intelligence failures (fresh water condenser at AF ruse) and table top exercise confirmation bias (the 3 USA carriers were not to be stationed at Point Luck as this was deemed impossible.)
The German table top for Operation Barbarossa run by Paulus and Thomas was not allowed to take supply difficulties as a variable as another example of bias on the part of the Axis powers.
@@maxhouse2409 thanks for the response. The intelligence failures which occurred though wouldn’t have come to much fruition so long as the IJN put their surface ships up front and used the high vessel advantage to their favor.
This is why the US Naval War College simply concludes that had the powerful Main Force been used then they should have defeated the Americans.
There really wasn’t a way for the US to counter attack or even surprise the IJN and stop their offensive assault.
One additional note. Had the IJN contemplated and planned with a surface ship approach they probably would have concluded that Carrier Zuikaku would be brought along too and simply manned with fighter planes for the most part. She is kept back behind the primary carrier force for additional CAP.
The first battle of Wake Island and the Battle of Coral Sea should have taught the IJN valuable lessons but they didn’t pick up on it.
They should have realized limited area bombing with only 500lb bombs is ineffective in neutralizing an island. They then got in too close with destroyers and paid the price.
A bit of irony is that the IJN did use their Kongo class battleships to shell Henderson Field at Guadalcanal later in 1942.
As for Battle of Coral Sea, the IJN certainly should have figured out to that it is pure nonsense to engage in carrier vs carrier and planes vs planes battles when the odds are near even. It cost the IJN too many bombers and bomber crew also.
Considering Battleship Musashi was being completed by August 1942 and the IJN knew Carrier Hiyo was being completed in July 1942 it was a perfect time to utilize Battleship Yamato and provide her with necessary CAP. She could fire from the greatest distance and launching a 3,200 lb shell is a lot different than a 500lb bomb.
You may not be aware of this but the USN had junk torpedoes and they lacked armor piercing bombs. Even if any US planes got through any CAP they wouldn’t have been able to cause much damage to any of the IJN battleships.
The US carrier planes attacking the IJN carriers would have been challenging also because they would have been out of range for a return flight back.
Admiral Yamamoto said that after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese would run roughshod over the Pacific for six months. He was only off by three days.
Before Midway the Japanese controlled the Pacific end to end, after Midway the Japanese were on the defensive as America's industrial might would now overtake and crush them. At the beginning of WW2 the U.S. had 5 large aircraft carriers. Less than 4 years later the U.S. had 25 large aircraft carriers and 75 smaller aircraft carriers. The U.S. was the deathstar on Earth, it just took about two years to get up to full speed. By the end of WW2 the U.S. alone was producing 1/2 of all industrial output by humans on Earth.
The US was fighting the Battle of the Atlantic, had the 8th Air Army Air Corp bombing Axis controlled Europe, was sending lend lease to the other Allied nations, fought in North Africa, Sicily, Italy, Normandy, France, Holland, and Germany. All the while also fighting across the Pacific. Then to top it off, paid to rebuild both Western Europe and Japan.
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 That's true. As the Japanese said, "we have awoken a sleeping giant".
However, you need to consider the fact that the war wasn't fought on US soil, since oceans to the east and west isolate it from the European infighting. Thus, it was one of the few nations that profited from the war and effectively ended European domination of the globe.
The Battle of the Coral Sea should have been a wake-up call for the Japanese. While both sides suffered similar losses and no advances were made, it was the first time Imperial Japan had known anything but victory in their entire Pacific campaign.
Thank God, Not made in China.
Exactly, Dylan. Someone STILL needs to make a documentary about how it was American agriculture, American oil, and American industrial might that saved the world from totalitarian domination. The Allies had absolutely no hope of defeating the Axis powers without the benefit of American supplies of every sort. It was in October of '43 that American aircraft production reached the goal of 8000 planes PER MONTH. And 1000 of that 8000 were "heavy bombers," meaning they were 4-engine bombers. That's 263 planes per day; 11 planes every hour, around the clock, all year. America had 4% of the world's population and yet we built 40% of all aircraft manufactured during the war. And that's after getting into the war LATE. Go to 39:50 ---> ruclips.net/video/atnUl5WafOw/видео.html
And that's just the aircraft. We haven't talked agriculture, oil, ships, tanks, artillery, vehicles, or small guns yet. We sent the Soviet Union 64,000 trucks during the war. Visualize a parking lot with 64,000 deuce-&-a-halfs in it.
William S. Knudsen, FDR's man in charge of war production, said, "We won because we smothered the enemy in an avalanche of production, the like of which he had never seen, nor dreamed possible."
The more you learn about Midway the more ridiculous it gets. One of the most impressive victories in the history of naval warfare.
Agree
Yes America lost many planes and had no hits until they bomed the 3 carriers in ten minutes
They also had lots of luck!
(and good intelligence and a very determined leader - Adminral Nimitz)
@@Digmen1and determined, bright squadron commanders named Wade McCluskey and Richard Best.
@@tomlienert882cause he was the best
Yamamoto blew it big time! Too complicated and didn’t work as a unit. If they had their smaller carriers (3) and battleships ahead of Nagumo they would have won easy!
Midway was significant for the simple fact it was fought entirely by aviation not ship to ship combat. About 350 US Naval aviators beat back and sink a 4 carrier strike force. From then on the Japanese were on the defensive. Even as the Japanese still showed offensive intent on some fronts the US began to sortie main force Naval units into the Pacific. The annihilation of the Empire was a matter of human sacrifice by US military forces culminating in the Atomic bombing of Japan. The United States the only nation on the face of the earth to attack an enemy using Atomic weapons. We are still that.....Thats what keeps us relatively a FREE NATION.
Not exactly a proud moment but a necessary one. The president is charged with protecting his people and nation. If they had developed a Japanese bomb that would kill every Japanese in the world to save one American life it would be the president's duty to deploy said weapon. Sorry folks but it's true and real!
One of the FLAT Tops was
Quite Damaged, and returned to Pearl, for repairs, so they wrote it off,
30days later it was BACK IN
SERVICE! THE ENEMY SENT SPOTTERS OUT IN ALL DIRECTIONS!! Except where we where in cloud
Cover, when they did they
Found more Flat Tops thus
MORE PLANES!! THEY should have NOT messed
With US,A ND it got Bad for
THEM!!
Why do some Historians still hold to the view that Japanese Navy had intentions of attacking the US west coast. Midway was a battle that the Japanese though, if they won, it would give them time. Time to build a defensive perimeter around their new empire. The Japanese knew that the American industrial strength would soon overtake them. They wanted to make it very costly for the Americans, so when they come back in strength, the costly battles would force them to the negotiation table.
Historians still hold to the view that Japanese Navy had intentions of attacking the US west coast.
Wayne Patterson --- The Japanese Navy actually did attack the "US west coast" on a number of occasions with submarines and submarine launched aircraft. The Japanese Army also conducted attacks upon the United States from Alaska to the Midwest using more than 9,000 balloon bombs in OPERATION FU-GO from November 1944 to April 1945. Emperor Hirohito prohibited Japanese Army plans to equip the balloon bombs with biological weapons for fear of reprisal by the Americans with biowarfare weapons. The Imperial Japanese Navy in 1942 planned and in 1943-1945 constructed the I-400 Class of aircraft carrier submarines for thepurpose of attacking the U.S. East Coast cities such as New York City and the West Coast cities such as San Diego, Long Beach, San Francisco, Seattle/Bremerton, etc. with future Japanese atomic bombs. When it became evident the Japanese atomic bombs would not become available before Japan's inevitable defeat, OPERATION CHERRY BLOSSOMS AT NIGHT was planned to use the I-400 Class submarines to launch Aichi M6A Seiran aircraft carrying biological bombs loaded with plague-infected fleas designed to start a black plague pandemic in San Diego and the U.S. West Coast scheduled for September 1945. This plan too was canceled due to fears of American reprisals. The next plan to be canceled called for the use of the I-400 class aircraft carrier submarines to launch air bombardment and/or Kamikaze attacks against the Gatun Locks at the Panama Canal.
In the aftermath of the Japanese raid upon Hawaii and Pearll Harbor on 7 December 1941 there was a concern for potential Japanese carrier task force raids against targets on the U.S. West Coast. Previously the American leadership did not consider such raids against the U.S. West Coast to be possible, because the Japanese task forces were not supposed to have the necessary fuel range to reach the U.S. West Coast or Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. Although the Japanese carriers had the necessary range to reach Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Territory of Hawaii, the escorting surface war ships did not have the necessary range. U.S. Naval Intelligence correctly believed the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) did not have an UNREP (Underway Replenishment) capability for the refueling of surface warships while underway on the high seas. In the absence of an UNREP capability the IJN did not have the capability of conducting a carrier air raid against Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. What the U.S. Naval Intelligence did not know was how Admiral Yamamoto had ordered the secret development of an UNREP capability to be developed and tested in secret on the high seas while the surface warships for the attack upon Pearl Harbor were enroute to their pre-raid rendezvous at Etorufu Island. In other words, the Japanese capability for UNREP refueling was developed for the first time specifically for and during the Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor. The Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor made it obvious to the American naval and military leadership that the IJN extended the combat range of its carrier task forces with a previously unknown UNREP capability. Such a new Japanese capability caused some of the American leadership to question whether or not the Japanese could thenceforth extend the combat range of their carrier task forces far enough to also reach the U.S. Pacific Coast. The 1942 Japanese attack upon Dutch Harbor, Alaska and invasions of Attu and Kiska in the Aleutian Islands of Alaska further prompted concerns about the true effective combat range of Japan's carrier task forces. The Japaense war planners recognized their capability for invading Hawaii was limited and questionable. Nonetheless, Admiral Yamamoto kept that option open for further consideratoin pending a successful Japanese capture of Midway Island. Other Japanese war planners looked ahead to potentially extend future Japanese operations in Alaska to leapfrog down the Alaskan and Canadian coastlines to establish Japanese air bases within range of Seattle and Bremerton and a new capability to conduct air bombardments of the Boeing aircraft plants and the U.S. Navy shipyards. There was also some concern for the Japanese to use their 99 year leased real estate at Magdalena Bay, Baja California, Mexico as a future base for submarine and air operations against the Southwest United States.
They were of the opinion that they had to be able to attack the west coast if they were ever going to get the US to negotiate under favorable terms. They spent years and a ton of resources building balloons filled with high explosives for example, all for purpose of bombing the west coast only to find out, the balloons didn't go where they were suppose to.
@marty TrueGenesis --- Now that was a bizarre alternate reality divorced from reality.
You're right and I always here bugs bunny's voice at the point regarding how the Japanese thought the U.S. would not fight to the end with all the bloody battles to come. "He don't know me verrwy well do he?"
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unbelievable truth and sacrifices for todays generation to be remembered.
Yes, so many sacrifices by Germans and Japanese. Never forget what sacrifice really means. "I call on God Almighty to have mercy on the German people. More than 2 million German soldiers went to their death for the fatherland before me. I follow now my sons - all for Germany."
The Yorktown repair is as AMERICA as you can get. Absolutely astounding to get a 3 month repair done in 2 days.
The loss of four carriers and hundreds of their best naval aviators might have had something to do with putting a crimp in Japanese plans.
You think
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I love our world, and God bless USA.
Think. The breaking of the JN-25 naval code made the Midway Island victory possible. The information gained put the U.S.Navy in a position to ambush the Imperial Japanese Navy.
Keep em coming war stories! These are a treasure of history
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I can’t say I think this was very good on Midway. It is hyper simplified and misses many critical points. Fleet dispersal means little in general since Japanese Anti-air abilities were weak for surface vessels. Coral sea proved that good reconnaissance and knowledge of enemy intentions was the critical oNe two punch that the US to win at midway (also they used the island as well). Also, the America learned at the coral sea superior damage control abilities. Midway also showed tactics that would massively reduce the effectiveness of the Zero (one of the best plans at the start of the conflict) flown by the best naval plots to that point in the war. And the effect of Midway was to end the final attempt to make l triply offensive plans by the Japanese. They would be defensive and reactive from then on.
Also the Japanese made less fleet carriers and always would. The Japanese were not in the whole less educated but had a training doctrine that was far more elitist and fatalist and did not change it until it was far too late. The losses at midway were not just irreplaceable Aircraft carriers but also the irreplaceable pilots, deck crews and field based tactical knowledge. Lastly, the Japanese never had a chance to win. The US was not just angry but incensed. This nation that in my the past had passed the Chinese exclusion act out of fear that Chinese would destroy the moral fiber of the nation - was effectively sneak attacked by a former ally and another East Asian nation that clearly wanted to take land the US had. The Japanese always assumed the racism of the west and thought they still could negotiate with the US. I think primarily because most of the intellectuals did secondary college training in Germany, England and France/Belgium. But those that spent time in the US (the vast minority of the intelligentsia) knew the US would never quit and would never surrender. Invading and conquering it was more impossible then China 100 miles off the Japanese coast. They thought the US was a weak democracy and the people were individualist that would be more interested in saving there own lives then dying for the common good or the Emperor (as they would). The Japanese payed the price for these assumptions starting here at midway and up to and including the dropping of the 💣 era that ended the war.
I look forward to the much better video you’ll make about Midway
Any country that would want to invade us would not get far with an armed population. Think about that gun haters
I remember reading that a dauntless plane hit a petrol tank and the pilot said that the fire swept the carrier and burned-out the whole deck so much that all on the deck were burned-out alive ,that's war at its most brutal
@Top Secret yes a truly terrifying weapon but the bits sat tight and defeated the menace
Our ancestors did! Including my grandad who was bayoneted after capture by the Japanese
Yes, warfare is brutal, whereby political governments are given the descriptive name of "a wild beast" at Revelation 13:1, 2, because they tear to shreds anyone whom they perceive as a threat to their sovereignty. The slaughter of massive numbers of people during both World Wars alone, estimated at over 80 million, shows what political governments have done "to make peace".
Here though is what God is going to do in the near future: "Come and witness the activities of Jehovah, how he has done astonishing things on the earth. He is bringing an end to wars throughout the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear; He burns the military wagons with fire."(Ps 46:8, 9; Note: God's personal name is Jehovah, Isa 12:2, KJV)
At Daniel 2, it says that through a heavenly government that Jehovah has created, this is what will happen to all political governments and their supporters: "In the days of those kings (or during the time of the 7th world power of Bible history, Britain/America, with the United States being dominate) the God of heaven will set up a kingdom (called God's Kingdom at Matt 6:10) that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever."(Dan 2:44)
So complete will this ' crushing ' be that "not a trace of them could be found". Then it says that God's Kingdom "became a large mountain, and it filled the whole earth."(Dan 2:35) The political governments and their supporters that have been brutish in nature, beastly in character, will be gone, opening the way for God's Kingdom to take control of the earth and transform it into a paradise for "meek" ones, as their everlasting "inheritance".(Matt 5:5)
I think that happened aboard the Kaga. The tank was a small, deck top, fuel truck that was blown up into the Kaga's bridge, killing ALL the bridge crew.
@@deguello66 the Kaga? Thanks for identifying the specific ship this happened on , must have been awful for the people aboard
Midway was Japan's last chance to win the Pacific Theatre conflict by ending it before America ramped up production. Their best hope was to negotiate concessions from the U.S. Any remaining prospect for that after Pearl Harbor was lost at Midway.
After Pearl harbor, I don't think America would have allowed any confession at all
Hit the wrong prompt and did not get to finish. America would not have allowed any concessions at all from the Japanese, especially after Pearl harbor. There was bitter hatred between the two Nations, especially after Pearl harbor.
I still cannot believe three navy carriers took on the IJN.
We can say there were planes on wake island, but the guts these people had is amazing.
Perhaps you meant Midway, not Wake…however, when one realizes that the Midway planes scored zero hits on Kido Butai, it became 3 carriers against 4….and when you realizeHornet’s planes did not even make contact with Kido Butai in the morning action, it was effectively 2 against 4.
Mark it's not as disparate as it sounds American carriers were bigger and so they carried more planes. I think the Japanese had somewhere around thirty more orso planes than the US Navy. Numbers don't tell the story our torpedo bomber was a flying brick that is insulting to bricks, and our torpedo was pure junk. Didn't get torpedo fixed until somewhere in 1943. Thank the almighty for the dauntless dive bomber. I've wondered how the battle would have gone had the Japanese sent the other two carriers that were on the Aleutian Islands diversion to Midway. Could have been ugly. Possibly maybe likely downright fugly.
@@garyhughes2446in carrier battles it’s basically he who strikes first wins
As to whether or not the Battle of Midway was the turning point in the war is definitely Up For Debate. The one thing that is not up for debate was that the Battle of Midway brought the Japanese offenses in the Pacific to a grinding halt. It definitely gave the United States breathing, for the United States Navy Army and Air corps to Garner and train personnel and replace old and outdated equipment with new and more modern weaponry to fight the war on at least an equal footing.
I think Midway and Guadalcanal are the combination punches that put Japan on the ropes. Between the two there was enough damage done to both the Japanese army and navy that they couldn't recover from it, but if we lost either I'm not sure how the story would end.
Midway was the turning point of the war - period. You are 100 % wrong.
No, it’s not!
Holy cow at 12:12 there is video of a coal powered side mounted paddlewheel steamer converted to a training carrier and operating in the great lakes. Probably the USS Wolverine. RARE FOOTAGE almost never seen.
You're right that it's rare video. I don't think I've ever seen motion picture footage of either the USS Wolverine or USS Sable before, only stills.
The four stacks you can see in the footage are consistent with the USS Wolverine, but I couldn't find a good enough picture of the USS Sable to make a comparison and I don't know how similar they might have been.
That was a good catch on your part. I wouldn't have realized what I was seeing if you hadn't pointed it out.
@@silentotto5099 www.britishpathe.com/video/uss-wolverine/query/LAKE+MICHIGAN
The Battle of Midway was a decisive battle true. But the true turning point was the invasion Fleet for Port Moresby in the battle of the Coral Sea. It was the first time a Japanese invasion Fleet had been turned back.
IJn lost many pilots at CORAL sea
From Midway, the Japanese only went west from then on. I think Midway was the turning point.
The US's suicide attack flights from Midway needs and deserves more coverage. Surely, those heroic young and inexperienced pilots knew they and their substandard planes were the cannon fodder to be sacrificed to set the stage to deplete Japanese aerial defenses which would then open up the Japanese carriers to be attacked by US planes from the US carriers.
I’ve never heard of coral sea
Thank you for producing this video clip. The archival video captured visually what it was really like in WWII.
However, the choice of the title of the video; "Battle of Midway: Why The Japanese Failed To Destroy The US Navy" is only supported by almost 25% of the entire video duration. The other 75% of the content is not about Midway.
I agree that the feature of US workers who built more aircraft carriers and ships during 1942-1945, was appropriate. They not only represented the millions of ordinary Americans who contributed to the war effort (including war bonds), but also cites one of the reasons why the Japanese failed to destroy the US Navy. I would venture further to speculate that even if the Japanese Imperial Navy (IJN) had decimated the existing US naval fleet at Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea or at Midway, it wouldn't be able to match the industrial-military complex of resource-richer USA to rebuild and enlarge its navy on a scale and speed superior to Japan's.
There're many other factors why the IJN failed to destroy the US Navy at Midway, or more precisely, all the US aircraft carriers (except for Yorktown). One was the prudence exercised by US admiral Ray Spruance, who kept his flat-tops beyond range of the guns of the Japanese battleships. IJN admirals were initially trying to make up for the loss of their 4 carriers by a night surface engagement with US ships.
Thanks
The guy at the end with the drink in all that carnage you can still find humanity and companionship a great show of good will
@34:43 "Rokossovsky soldiers reached river Bug, the original Polish border" ... One look at any respectable historical atlas will tell you that the last time this river was even near Polish eastern border was in XIV century - prior to union of Krewa (or 1569 if you take the border with Lithuania - an allied state tied with personal union to Poland for two centuries). I certainly was NOT a border river before Second World War. Russians made it a border bettween puppet Kingdom of Poland and Russian Tsardom in 1815, but since that border was not even a customs border (Tsar was to be the King of Poland, and Poles were to have some authonomy, but within two decades all the administration was eventually Russian), that line was a pure fiction.
I know it is a minor point, but it's one of those little Russian lies that circulate in western historiography even now. I do hope, that after the invasion of Ukraine, western scholars will take a second and third look at Russian "historical" claims...
The bit about the Dock workers building the 14 carriers, got to me. (11:20) The "rivet" thrower, and the "rivet" catcher. Sure they had to learn to do this, but think of how many rivets went into building even a destroyer. That is a lot of throwing and catching, just imagine that much practice in a sport using balls...
Other then golf. Duffers already get to much practice... missing...
There's a story about boeing engineers building the b 42s it goes "what is better rivets or welding?" The engineer's said welding .OK what if your sons are flying that plane? ......."rivets" they went with rivets
Fun fact: if you were to line up all of the rivets used to build Titanic end to end, they'd stretch almost from Boston to NYC, or for my friends across the pond, farther than the distance from Belfast to Liverpool. If you were to stack them, they'd almost reach the altitude of the International Space Station.
Both my grandparents were at Kaiser in Portland building ships.
Over 100 aircraft carriers were built in the US during WW2, most were very small escort carriers, over 60 I think, then the medium ones 30 or more, and yes, the 14 Essex class carriers were also built. It was close to 120 aircraft carriers of all types, just incredible
On japanese carrier was sunk by a single bomb hit. The Japanese damage control for their ships was deeply flawed.
Indeed. The IJN, still a relative newcomer on the world stage, was dominated by an overtly offensive doctrine that eschewed investment and attention paid to endeavors that wasn't related to getting planes in the air from below deck as fast as possible and then landing them after the sortie. Development of contingency operations in the event the ship got hit was treated almost like defeatist propaganda which was absurd in the extreme. Things like fire prevention below decks, emergency hull repair, fothering teams, using safe practices with ordinance on and below decks, charging fuel lines with CO² between use, and other reasonable preventative efforts had simply been ignored before. Until the IJN began engaging with the US Navy the many vulnerabilities and hazards it had been exposing itself to through the absence of these better practices simply remained hidden and a nonfactor until it suddenly was thrust upon them after Pearl Harbor. From Midway forward the IJN never was afforded the time to learn from its mistakes and make corrections which in turn would have made the IJN more formidable.
Lack of information was why Japan lost the battle of midway.
We read their codes. They got ambushed. the B17 strike caused admiral Nagumo to blunder into re-arming his planes. That took time. though they scored no hits the B-17's hit a tactical homerun.
A battle decided in 5 minutes....Epic
I love your Chanel. I have seen less of this issue lately, but why do you have spots in the shows that go blurry?
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Graphic scenes I think
Victory or defeat often depends on Blind Luck…and code breakers
I thoroughly get your point but I wouldn't leave out guts and courage either. I wouldn't fly a paper or even an aluminum airplane into the wall of flack that the pilots did while attacking those ships.
If you're going to put together a video, at least do some research before doing so. Nagumo's decision to rearm to land-based bombs was made BEFORE the Akagi's attack wave planes returned. Nagumo was passed a message from the Kaga's commander as the Kaga dive bomber's leader had notified them via radio that another strike on Midway was required. Next, the order in which the carriers were struck is completely wrong. Akagi was NOT the first carrier hit; it was the last of the three in the first wave. The first was the Kaga. Next, the two pilots (along with their Army Air Corp peers based out of Midway ) at 9:53 were NOT naval flyers and they should've been court martialed for lying. The B17's and 26's never bombed ANYTHING the entire time frame of the battle but their pilots ran their mouths to anyone within earshot, taking sole credit for winning the battle. Fortunately, an inquiry conducted afterward determined the true level of their contribution to the battle.
Midway was a very important battle for the Americans and the Japanese
I sometimes try to imagine what a border skirmish would be like between Japan and Germany, had they succeed in conquering the world.
i think that too
I have often wondered how long it would have taken for Japan and Germany to be at each other's throats and who would have won.
The 101st Paratroopers have always said they DID NOT NEED TO BE RESCUED. THEY HELD BASTOGNE and Patton helped the Bulge from growing any further.
This is very informative, and arranged well. Thank you.
Actually some of the details are wrong. It seems to me to be a bit warmed over from other videos and not that well researched. Kaga was hit first and then Soryu and then Akagi and the Japanese decks were not about to launch a strike, only a few CAP fighters here and there about to launch. Then they completely ignored about 5 waves of attacks from Midway island on the carriers.
@@jamesgibbs6970 Thanks for the additional information.
@@jamesgibbs6970 I do think the Japanese carriers wanted to launch their fighters. Our worthless torpedo attacks, I shouldn't say worthless they were quite ineffective although they did bring the Japanese fighter umbrella down to sea level chasing. Japanese wanted to get their zeros back up to altitude to help blunt more US air attacks. The Japanese couldn't launch their fighters with all the shooting and going on and our planes coming in, I know most of the attacks from Midway didn't hit anything but water. No medals for that it was purely by default.
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Man, the English teaches me more than I already had about WWII. I sure am grateful for the Allies. Rest Easy, Lt. Col. Richard “Sully” Sullivan.
This was my “long weekend “
Mine as well. Same with this weekend (D-Day).
Remember the Brave.
Remember the Fallen.
Remember the Sacrifice.
Remember that Freedom is NOT Free.
Jesus christ.....
This video is 10% about Midway, the rest is filled with various other short war stories about Europe, Asia etc. to fill up the time, so it looks like this is a detailed long form video about Midway. Very deceptive.
Fun fact
Even if the US lost all its ships at midway and Japan lost non , the US was building the largest navy in the world in 16 months anyways.
That war was decided before Japan reach Pearl Harbour.
Before Pearl Harbor, the States were not at War.
@@pressureworks I mean when Japan war on their way to Peal Harbour the out come was decided.
@@Crashed131963 still no.........
@@pressureworks It was just math.
The US had more people natural resources and 5x the manufacturing capacity.
yep....if they hadnt lost at midway they wouldve lost somehwere else
01:35 I've seen this scene many times in documentary's but this is the first time I noticed a parachute.
Please use the animation thing! It's Awesome!!!!!
The book “Midway 1942” by Mark Stille comes in handy with this documentary.
Book “Shattered Sword” is highly recommended
@@yankeexpress "Shattered Sword" is a mixed bag, and needs to be read with caution.
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How so?
@@Wayne.J Well let's see...
1. Their primary Japanese source is not the official history that they claim it is.
2. That source represents primarily the view of Japanese veterans (some of whom worked on the series), and not historians.
3. They left out statements from contemporary Japanese sources (senior officers aboard the carriers) which directly contradict their central revelation of the battle.
4. They never established that Fuchida was a liar. Fuchida had memory issues even with his memoirs, and over issues of no historical significance at all. They omitted that he accurately recorded that Akagi was attacked by three aircraft, that Akagi 'was' launching some aircraft at the time, and that he recorded the number of hits on the ship. Fuchida in fact made one error. He conflated the launch of the CAP zeroes from Akagi with the launch of the strike which he knew was being prepared.
5. They glossed over the fact that Hiryu's retaliatory airstrike against the U.S. carriers could not have been in her hangars when the dive bomber attack began, because the Japanese couldn't possibly have even spotted the aircraft in time to launch them when they did- and that's according to the authors' own stated time requirements for carrying out such an action.
6. They exaggerated the Japanese aircraft rearming issue. Only 15 aircraft of the reserve force had to be rearmed back to torpedoes for the attack on the U.S. carriers, and Hiryu and Soryu were not effected at all by this at all. The rearming issue was an issue only for the aircraft of the returned Midway aircraft (the Nagumo Report is clear that the attack on the U.S. carriers was a two- wave attack).
7. The authors statement that they know of no instance where Japanese CAP fighters launched from abreast the island is inaccurate. Photos of the carriers at Midway show CAP fighters preparing to launch from there. In one video here on youtube, one of the authors even points this out.
I could go on, but this is enough.
@@yankeexpress its the best
I don't get why midway gets so overdramatized, even if Japanese would have won, they would only buy like 6 months, the US was a economic and industrial GIANT, and would outproduce the japanese by 10 fold or even more in naval ships.
Your understanding is way off.
The US industrial giant would not become fruition until 1944.
Had the US lost at Midway then the war or cease fire would have occurred in 1942.
Do you even realize the few vessels the US had left in the Pacific. The US would not have pulled anymore vessels from the Atlantic. They really couldn’t afford to do much more.
Patton didn’t win the Battle of the Bulge for the Allies, obviously. But he was the Allied general the German high command feared most, and I’m sure nobody on the other side was happy to hear that he’d made a miracle happen to hunt them down.
I respect and admire the Americans.
They can think and innovate fast at the middle of a disaster
By 8:00 I gave up on trying to hear the narration with the music blaring so loud. Doesn't explain much when muted. 'Bye.
This voice actor is the best for sleeping.
Awesome!
06:57 " With carrier warfare the person who struck first is going to win", he says , as if this isn't true for other forms of engagement : be it gun duel ,tanks, battleships,etc .
There is a video out there that tells the battle with all the great details.
32:10 *These guys are playing **_RISK_** for real !*
Japan used most of its non carrier surface ships tp cover the landings. And then relied on carrier based planes to soften up Midway. Half of the battleships and cruisers could have leveled Midway. And kept all of its air power reserved for the US fleet if it showed up. A Japanese battle group headed for the US position once it was discovered. But it was hundreds of miles away. And by time it arrived on the scene all they found was a devastated carrier force. With the US fleet on its way to Pearl and no where in sight.
Good points but not entirely accurate.
Kondo’s Occupation Force did have a decent amount of surface ships but the Main Force had quite a few also.
It’s interesting how it’s name “Main” Force did nothing.
It’s really the battleships that should have shelled Midway. They could fire from a greater distance especially Yamato.
As for the carriers, the plane mixture would have been different. 2/3 fighters would help provide more CAP for the surface ships.
The IJN would have had around 10 more planes per carrier with this strategy.
The IJN still would have needed fast surface ships up front and pushing beyond Midway after a certain point in the Battle.
Carrier Zuikaku would have most likely been brought along and sectioned off in 3 split carrier groups.
The aerial bombings would have slowed the US carriers down and the fast IJN surface ships would have finished off the US Task Force.
Kondo would not give up its screen. For without it his carriers were vulnerable. Plus the loss of the US torpedo squadrons gave Kondo a sense of invulnerability. Thus the surface ships were not dispatched until Japan lost three carriers.
@@charleslloyd4253 I don’t believe Kondo have needed to give up its screen or perhaps he would have realized he didn’t need it had the IJN envisioned and developed a better operational battle plan. The IJN had way more vessels than needed.
Instead of Kondo’s force being as large as it was it simply could have been reduced and kept further west of Midway. They really should have been more where the Main Force was and thus didn’t need as many vessels.
Main Force - 7 battleships including Yamato. Carrier Hosho. 1 cruiser and 8 destroyers.
Kondo Invasion/Occupation Force - this had 3 main bodies:
- Main Body - 2 Kongo class battleships, 5 cruisers, and 8 destroyers plus Carrier Zuiho
- Occupation Force - gang load of transport ships. The Escort Force had 1 cruiser and 11 destroyers and 2 seaplane tenders with 32 planes.
- Midway Support Force - 4 cruisers and 2 destroyers.
In total without even including the Aleutians Force the IJN had 11 battleships, 6 carriers plus 2 seaplane tenders with actual float planes, 17 cruisers, and 49 destroyers.
These vessels could have easily been re-arranged and better positioned.
The surface ships should have been sent out in front. They would have distracted any US carrier planes if even out there.
Midway is shelled and pummeled by battleships at night to start the battle. It needed to done anyhow to soften up the island defenses.
The Occupation Force only moves in days later.
The US carriers are wounded by aerial bombs. The fast IJN surface ships catch the slowed down US carriers and finish them off with their long lance torpedos.
The IJN had sufficient and vast enough vessels to cut off the US trying to make it back to Hawaii.
It really didn’t matter where the US carriers were positioned. Midway was a stationary spot that needed to be defended at all costs.
Good points. Some modern military strategists think that if the Yamato, with her 18 inch guns, and the two carriers on their way to the Aleutians were committed to Midway instead, the battle would have had a different outcome. We’ll never know.
@@oldmike7239 Yes two escort carriers could have covered midway with Zeros and Bettys. But Yamato was fixated on his mainline carriers that gave him fame and promotion. High altitude bombing by B17x were totally ineffective against the invasion force. With a escort carrier with a dozen zeros the B17s would have never made it to a point to drop their bombs. My dad was on the Enterprise at the time having been assigned to her by Nimitz as soon as the tin can that fished him out of the sea when the Lexington went down in the Coral Sea arrived at Pearl. And took part in the intelligence collection for after action reports following Midway. Japan had five escort carriers at the time and they would not have to take two away from the diversion force. But Yamato did not include any in the invasion force. Because they could not keep pace with the bombardment force. And thought if he sent them two days ahead of time. They might be discovered.
The island hopping just too stay ahead of the Japanese was the focus.sept2022.
the key thing in any battle is supplies! you got no supplies you got not bullets , bombs ect... and you will lose
The amount of military equipment America produced during the war was phenomenal. The industrial output was a huge factor in winning the war .
Yamamoto knew full well what would happen if they stabbed the States in the back and bombed Pearl Harbour
This video when it addresses Bagration ignores a very basic question. Why did the Soviets have so much more armaments than the Germans (tanks, artillery, etc.)? The Germans had a larger industrial base than the Soviets. German steel production far exceeded that of the Soviets. A large part of the answer is that Germany had to use so much of its industry to fight the war in the West. As a result, the Ostheer was not adequately supplied and supported.
That and they also focused too much on quality over quantity unlike the soviets. It took a lot more time and effort to produce a german than a russian tank for instance.
Also, like today, the Germans are over fixated upon quality and engineering. They don’t consider reliability serviceability maintainability and usability. Hence a starter for a Mercedes is $2500
@@jaik195701 You make a very important point. It is not widely understood that the Germans had a much larger industrial base than the Soviets, even before the Germans occupied much of the western Soviet Union. You are absolutely correct that Soviet industrial policy was an important factor as was the failed German industrial policy.
@@jaik195701 your statement doesn't make sense. Since quality leads to reliability.
Don't forget that battle in the south, all the resources that ended up at the bottom of the Mediterranean and were also left behind in Africa.
Mistitled, perhaps, but with more interesting visual and anecdotal elements. Thanks.
It's a merely sacrifice using an outdated aircraft by the Americans. But they have the gots to do it. Thank u 💓 to all the heroes who fought this battle.
Had family there.. USMC
Midway was a disaster for the Japanese Navy, they not only lost four ( 4 ) aircraft carriers, but 300 pilots.
wasnt that bad, the pilot pool got bled out over the solomons
Here's a hypothetical... What would have happened if midway never would have happened if that battle would have been completely non-existent??
The striking thing is the absolute knowledge that the brave airmen knew they were not coming back the ab
This rendition is so full of holes and leaves out so many details. I surmise that this was the intention in the time allotted. If you want a detailed analysis on how Midway was won, check out Montemayors version. ruclips.net/video/Bd8_vO5zrjo/видео.html&ab_channel=Montemayor
Those don’t tell the real story as to how Midway was won. They tell a fake story.
@@f430ferrari5 I completely disagree with you on that. The analysis was pulled from first hand accounts once they became declassified. I watched about 30 versions of the BAttle of Midway. There were simliarities among all of them but many left out so many details. This is one of them
@@dalehahn9752 if you want to see the US Naval War College declassified film vid here it is.
ruclips.net/video/S7jR4PGoOOY/видео.html
Hopefully it stays.
When japanese realize they wake up a giant
I'm watching a video titled battle of miday, but the video that's playing is about the german eastern front. WTH?
Midway was won because the US found out the code AF the battle could have been different otherwise
From 1941 the Japanese were the aggressors until Midway, after Midway The Japanese were the defenders.
So yeah! The Battle Of Midway is the turning point of the war in the Pacific.
your forgetting burma and the solomons
It should be noted that the attack in the Ardennes in 1944 was NOT the 3rd time in the 20th Century that the Germans had made an attack there... or at least not the third time that they'd put their main effort there... as they hint at with the mention of 1914. While the German army did move through the region in 1914, these were largely auxiliary forces that were covering the flank of the MAIN thrust that went through northern Belgium in 1914 to run the Schlieffen Plan... which was ultimately defeated before Paris in September 1914.
And it was this that ultimately lead, in part, to the French expectation in 1940 that the Germans would repeat the Schlieffen Plan's focus on northern Belgium and enabled Manstein's emphasis on the Ardennes to have the surprise that it did in 1940. The rest was that the key lesson that all sides learned about the use of tanks, was that they would do best on more open terrain where their firepower would be better applied... and both Gamelin and Eisenhower would both figure that the main effort would be further north because tanks wouldn't do well in the forests of the Ardennes.
What gave Eisenhower an advantage that Gamelin didn't have, was that the Allies in 1944 had better adapted to the nature of German tactics and had better control of the air. In this, while he was surprised in December 1944, Eisenhower wasn't as crippled as Gamelin was and could thus respond far faster. And once the skies cleared, Allied fighters and medium bombers returned to savage the German forces in the open.
Very good program pleas torkis doble
If your ever in Charleston. Go visit the Yorktown!!!!
47:36 *History being Censored by RUclips® - utterly disgraceful !*
The mentioning of 'Blitzkrieg' in the context of Soviet deployment is incorrect. It was 'Deep Battle' which was worse for the Germans since it did not rely on the first echelon, but had several follow-up echelons which the Soviets leveraged.
Great story.
The war in the Pacific was decided at Pearl Harbour. The attack failed to destroy the oil farm. Whose loss would have ripped the US for up to two years. Once the attack had been made the US was brought fully into WW2. The US industrial might, resources and manpower meant it was inevitable that the US would win. It would have been a very different Pacific war had the Japanese won at midway. But in the long run, Japan would still have been defeated. The win at Midway cut short the defeat of Japan by removing her carriers and carrier pilots.
This battle shows how much the aircraft carrier had taken over naval battles....also shows how pearl harbor was known to happen before it happened...for our Carriers we're not in harbor but safely out to sea.....
Let's not forget that the allied had cracked the JAPANESE NAVAL CODE and the allies new ahead of time all Japan's movements.
One example the killing of minister YAMOTO since they knew the itinerary, my take, JV
Admiral Yamamoto was killed way after the Battle of Midway. At his death world war II was just a matter of time.
thank you, .red army, for liberating Europa. Love from norway!
Liberating, and then reenslaving
Don’t recall any Soviet Troops in Western Europe! I did notice Millions of Dollars worth of American Trucks, Tanks, Warplanes, Steel, Aviation Fuel & Food on the Eastern Front however.
@@jafr99999 amongst other Places the red army liberated western european Places was Bornholm, Denmark and Finnmark, norway. Berlin, of course.
Love it
One thing we can say about Germany with absolute certainty
"Germany ran out of men and fuel NOT ammo"
-Waffen SS Solider WW2
They were straight up beaten into the ground . My Father was in Germany when it surrendered he said there was not one road , railway , factory , bridge , airport , port facility almost everything destroyed. Can't fight if your hungry and naked out of ammo , no matter how many were left. Your statement smacks of ignorance and no respect for the forces that beat them. Furthermore Waffen SS forces were barely 20% of total forces . The Wehermacht ( Regular German Army) was way bigger than them. NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
The battle of the Coral Sea the actual high water mark of the Japanese Imperial dreams. And the first time the Japanese invasionally had been turned back. This was the beginning of the end. The Battle of Midway expedited it. When was the actual breaking of the Japanese Fleet. But it was not the turning point. That happened in the Coral Sea.
CORAL SEA showed US sailors
They could go toe to toe with the japanese and punch them right in the nose.
Background music is a little loud.?!
The japanese commitment attitude cost them the war. Admiral nagumo wanted to complete the bombing operation instead of dealing with the allied navy left them nearly defenseless
But keep in mind nagumo ordered the second strike on Midway before there was any American ship spotted, Japanese felt no threat at all that from the runway on Midway that could launch bombers at the Japanese. Any prudent Commander try and eliminate a single threat when he is not aware of any other threat. What really hurt the Japanese carriers is all the explosives and fuel, we're on the flight decks due to nagumo's indecision. It was not safely stowed and that's when The dauntless dive-bomber showed up. GOODNIGHT IRENE. I believe the second carrier to be hit was buy just one or two bombs but all the explosives exacerbated that immensely. Little details. One or two bombs generally will not sink an aircraft carrier.
he worked with the info he had.
Such an interesting topic. And so many pictures that have nothing to do with what was said.
There is so much authentic material on the subject, why take material that is completely out of place??? Schade!!! Schade!!
Music makes this unwatchable.
The filmmakers couldn't get their hands on any stock footage of Dauntless dive bombers.
If only Nagumo took the risk of attacking the US carrier with their HE bombs rather than rearming . This is what happens when you let a battleship man take control of an aircraft carrier.
Probably no difference in that Hornet and Enterprise may have been hit also but most likely not sunk.
The IJN still would have lost 3 carriers at least and lost a lot of pilots.
The IJN needed a different strategy. This person in the vid is correct in that the IJN vessels were poorly positioned where they couldn’t help each other.
I assume you are meaning nagumo should have attacked the US fleet with the bombs on the planes that were meant for the second strike on the runway at Midway. Doing that nagumo would have left himself open to further attack by bombers from Midway even though they were not effective bombers nagumo didn't know that so nagumo would have been facing carrier attack planes and bomber attacks by American bombers from Midway. You just lost your promotion. At the time nagumo ordered the second strike on Midway there was no American ships spotted why not eliminate the runway threat when he wasn't really being threatened.
@@garyhughes2446 The first strike already damage the runway as well as the hangers and fuel depos at midway island and secondly when Nagumo prepared for the second strike a reconnaissance plane already spotted and reported it's findings but Nagumo thought it wasn't important enough and so continued the attack on Midway.
@@andsoiderparound9909 yes the runway was damaged but it was still usable and nagumo didn't want to have more us planes attack him from Midway. And I'm quite sure that the rearming process was already in progress before the scout plane from the Japanese ship Tone spotted the United States aircraft carrier. The Japanese didn't know how many more bombers and attack planes we had on Midway. Admiral nagumo respected our submarine threat to him as it was not well known that our torpedo was junk
@@andsoiderparound9909 admiral nagumo was not the best commander but I don't believe for one minute that he would have ignored a report by his own scout of a United States aircraft carrier in the area, one that should not have been there or according to the Japanese no logical reason for one to be there anyway at that specific time, the Japanese should have been suspicious of that. They were overconfident.
If Japan had taken Midway and destroyed the US carriers Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet, they still would not have been able to mount another attack on Hawaii, let alone the west coast of the US. By the middle of 1942, US troops and Army and Navy aircraft had been built up to the point that an attack by even six Japanese carriers on Hawaii would have been a disaster for the Japanese. The Japanese didn't have the troops or the logistics to mount such an operation. The Japanese Army didn't even want to occupy Midway. If they had occupied Midway, the best thing the Japanese could have done was just leave.
If the Japanese had defeated the US fleet at Midway, they would have moved south to finish taking Papua New Guinea. With only the Saratoga and the Wasp available, the US likely would not have taken Guadalcanal. The new Exeter class carriers with the F6F Hellcats did not arrive until the middle of 1943. A Japanese victory at Midway likely would have extended the war another year, but would not have significantly changed the outcome.
Education was an important force multiplier during the Pacific War. Today that force multiplier is seriously compromised.
Thought this was about midway. It's all over the place!
私は、こんな怖い戦争は、二度と起きないで欲しいです。若者は、政治の犠牲者です。両国の良好な関係を保つって、素敵な事でしょうね。
Background score too LOUD
Please process WW 2 in Yugoslavia, to put an end to it already
In your video about the Japanese fleet you talk about them destroying the Russian fleet - "When they destroyed the Russian fleet, a match for anybody..."
You're kidding, right? The Russian fleet barely made it to the Pacific it was in such terrible disarray.
In fact they nearly started a war with England on the way because they mistook English naval units for enemy units and opened fire.
A match for anybody my Aunt Fanny.
Nothing against the Japanese fleet, they were most certainly the most formidable Navy on earth at the time.
But the Russians weren't really match for anyone,much less the Japanese
I believe they were discussing the Russo Japanese war in the early 1900’s. A lot of Japanese pacific war strategy for the imperial navy in ww2 was affected by that war.
@@amanacatandhisdog8836 I guess that's possible but that wasn't my take away. Honestly the Russian fleet of WWII was a complete embarrassment
@@toddrobbins4608 agreed.