Excellent presentation... I came across this by pure accident and was drawn into it and ended up watching the whole thing... by the end while watching that montage, I couldn't stop smiling. Super fun. Good luck BPS!!!
From studying audio engineering to doing freelance videography to teaching himself aerospace engineering and building his own rockets, this man is incredible!
I too am a graduate of Music with a fascination with rocketry! Love what you’re doing: keep it up. Unlike you, I made teaching music a living, while you made rockets yours. Cheers to us!
Nice work Joe. Your passion for what you are doing is awesome. After graduating from Mechanical Engineering, I worked at NASA where I designed some Flight hardware for ISS so I can relate to what you are doing. Keep up the good work.
I think the central area of the Venn diagram exists. Way more fun to hear the thrust and see the fire for 45 seconds (long burn motor!) than for it to rocket up and out of sight.
So awesome bro. I've been watching your videos for the past 2 days and now feel like I should go back to my love and interest in Rocketry and aviation. Starting off with building drones first and some other stuff before I get into the rockets
Very Nice talk. I wonder if you could get some small level of 'throttle control' by very quickly moving the motor around in circles so that the motor thrust vector's vertical component is reduced. By moving it rapidly you average out any induced pitch or yaw. Of course you superimpose on top of that the normal control offsets.
Yep! I believe this technique is used in a few solid rocket surface to air missiles. They perform a big corkscrew maneuver at the beginning of flight to bleed off the right amount of energy so they can perform the specific task at hand. That said, since we can't do a corkscrew and have to just wiggle the motor back and forth, I'd have to do some longer duration tests on servo reliability under those loads, nothing that can't be done though! Update: Found it! I'm sure there are others that do too, but there's footage of a few THAAD vehicles performing the corkscrew.
I am very upset that I found this 3 years after it was posted. Thank you for going the extra step and for pursuing your dream. I would love to see one of your launches if you ever launch from Texas.
HA! NEEEEERRRRDDD! (Amazing work over these past few years, remember that project I brought up to you [Im Derek from facebook] well now it is happening!)
It's funny, that comment at 5:33 is exactly what people said about SpaceX ;) Awesome speech by the way. Really entertaining and really informative about what you've been doing with BPS.space!
Hi Joe, just wanted to thank you for pushing me. I just started to get serious about re-learning engineering and programming basics through model rockets (and your channel:) Also I did FIRST robotics in high school, taught myself audio engineering and production and got a job doing that, then got involved in the SLC film industry 😂 I couldn't believe how similar your story was to mine so far. Hopefully I can keep following in your footsteps!
Thoroughly enjoyed your talk and very well done for all your hard work so far! I can see great things for BPS! I’m extremely interested in getting started myself, I just need to check the UK forums for rocketry. Keep it up!
If you mean like a man with a dream to better people's understanding about vertical takeoff and land rockets then yes but as of looks! he is just a Yong man looking smart.
Man, Can't wait for you to perfect throttle controlled landing on 2019. Happy new year! Wishing you all the best! I wish I could start building my thrust vector control rocket this year. Lol
It's an amazing group of people. Trip Barber (three rows back on the left), and Chris Flannagan (four rows back on the right) are two of the most awesome and experienced model rocketry R&D researchers you could ever hope to learn the entire spectrum of the hobby from, along with a host of other ground breaking engineers and scientists from some of the best schools in the US in attendance. All are extremely humble, brilliant, and very happy to teach others, especially the young TARC community eager to learn the most recent and advanged modeling technologies.
All the phases of BPS shown in this keynote: Phase I [IGNITION] 0:42 Phase II [LIFTOFF] 5:41 Phase III [GRAVITY TURN] 17:12 Phase IV [STAGE SEP] 25:08 Phase V [GOING ORBITAL] 27:52
this is fine for music not for speech. The least you can do when listening to a lecture is to listen to EVERYTHING the person has to say. you are in a hurry you do not listen, or you listen later.
Hey Iv been binge watching all your videos because you are full of useful information. Thrust vectoring in model rockets is awesome, and the future indeed. (Im working on prototyping a thrust vectoring system with air brakes for our schools rocketry program) I'v never seen a cryogenic liquid fueled model rocket, would be an interesting engineering problem to solve.
Wow!!!!! So Inspiring!!!!! Great and thanks for sharing your practical knowledge, hypothesis, experiments, experience, failures, successes and insights. Absolute legend for the book reference too Rocket Propulsion Elements - by George P. Sutton (Author), Oscar Biblarz (Author). Thank you!!!!! x 100 times 😊👍
Excellent presentation. Very entertaining and informative and a lot of fun. One question comes to mind: have you considered using an EDF for thrust instead of an actual "rocket motor". It would give you a much longer period of "thrust" and could be throttled. I know it's not a real "rocket", but you could work out a lot of your stability software with an analog that lasted a lot longer.
I met someone at National MakerFaire 2016 who was doing jet tab control of an EDF but had SERIOUS issues with power delivery and mass. It's hard to beat the pure POWER of chemical thrust
a couple people tried and did this. it just wasnt interesting bc it doesnt feel like the same thing. plus, that would be destroying joes point of all this
I am wondering if AI can at all be integrated into the flight controls software so the rocket learns how to fly itself instead of doing what human tells it to do? Would that be a better way of developing future flight control software?
There are a few aerospace companies trying this route, but I think it's probably a bad idea. The math behind rocket guidance and control systems is fairly well understood. That's super important for missions and flights that require reliability. By nature, we don't understand how deep learning works, or rather the results of it. So many neural connections are made by the learning algorithm, that we can only look effectively at input vs output. For both of these reasons, it seems like a less safe option overall. The rocket already flies itself too, the user just sets the stability sensitivity. Once the rocket leaves the launch pad, it takes care of all the decisions for how to stay stable and when to deploy parachutes or retro-propulsion. Frankly, a lot of guidance stuff involves linear algebra, coordinate transformations, and a little trigonometry, all of which can be done by most humans. It might be useful in trajectory planning, but certainly at this scale it would be overkill.
When you have a perfect mathematical model for your problem then going the AI route is doing things backwards. It's like replacing a calculator which is fast and does it's job without mistake with a human which despite being the best AI on the planet does a very poor job compared to a calculator.
My heart stopped when you said you could make a launchable Saturn V rocket model that takes 5 seconds to clear the tower .....that might just get me into rocketry .....or should i say model rocketry!
Awesome video! How did you fund yourself in the beginning with just a degree in music? Were you busking on the streets and playing jazz trombone at the local retirement village and shopping center?
Thanks! No busking, usually the money isn't great for that anyway. Shooting wedding videos and music videos isn't too bad if you get your price structure set up well. You can end up making great money for the time commitment, and you also end up with lots of free time during the week. I took just about all the extra money I made and put it into rockets!
The public doesn't want your "form & function" scenario, the public wants the "static, dynamic, remotely operated, and personal" scenario of participation in any activity. They want a pathway from NO rocketry to riding in their own personal rocket. Why because they "promised" us "hover cars" back in the 50s!
5:02 i am willing to bet $5 (all mo money) that a good number of people at SpaceX have seen your projects at this point. Would not be surprised if Musk has seen you in his twitter feed at the very least edit: say the thing this is kind of given since winners of high powered rocketry competitions do get job offers from companies, so
Really he looks like Elon, I was thinking this ;) any telepathic connection? Anyway, You are really a motivation for future scientists! Good luck! I would like to invite you to our university astronomy club for a great guest lecture, at least as an online one.. :)
i have watched this presentations 3 times by now, and i still enjoy it as much as the first time.
Excellent presentation... I came across this by pure accident and was drawn into it and ended up watching the whole thing... by the end while watching that montage, I couldn't stop smiling. Super fun. Good luck BPS!!!
the way he presents reminds me of a less socially awkward elon musk.
@@David-Kynaston You're two years late to this comment Musketeer.
@@EdisonWong2004 yeas he is
OMG: I never learnt from any other rocketry videos. Not even from SpaceX videos.
This is so amazing.
From studying audio engineering to doing freelance videography to teaching himself aerospace engineering and building his own rockets, this man is incredible!
I too am a graduate of Music with a fascination with rocketry! Love what you’re doing: keep it up. Unlike you, I made teaching music a living, while you made rockets yours. Cheers to us!
Nice work Joe. Your passion for what you are doing is awesome. After graduating from Mechanical Engineering, I worked at NASA where I designed some Flight hardware for ISS so I can relate to what you are doing. Keep up the good work.
I think the central area of the Venn diagram exists. Way more fun to hear the thrust and see the fire for 45 seconds (long burn motor!) than for it to rocket up and out of sight.
So awesome bro. I've been watching your videos for the past 2 days and now feel like I should go back to my love and interest in Rocketry and aviation. Starting off with building drones first and some other stuff before I get into the rockets
Nice talk man. It's really cool how you progressed so far.
I always thought what you're doing is cool, but I didn't know why you where doing it. Now it all makes sense. Great talk!
Very Nice talk. I wonder if you could get some small level of 'throttle control' by very quickly moving the motor around in circles so that the motor thrust vector's vertical component is reduced. By moving it rapidly you average out any induced pitch or yaw. Of course you superimpose on top of that the normal control offsets.
Yep! I believe this technique is used in a few solid rocket surface to air missiles. They perform a big corkscrew maneuver at the beginning of flight to bleed off the right amount of energy so they can perform the specific task at hand. That said, since we can't do a corkscrew and have to just wiggle the motor back and forth, I'd have to do some longer duration tests on servo reliability under those loads, nothing that can't be done though!
Update: Found it! I'm sure there are others that do too, but there's footage of a few THAAD vehicles performing the corkscrew.
I am very upset that I found this 3 years after it was posted. Thank you for going the extra step and for pursuing your dream. I would love to see one of your launches if you ever launch from Texas.
I am looking into model rocketry because of you thank you for that
You did FIRST robotics?! No way! FIRST is the best! Omg I'm so excited 😂
HA! NEEEEERRRRDDD! (Amazing work over these past few years, remember that project I brought up to you [Im Derek from facebook] well now it is happening!)
I worked with quaternions when I was getting my masters in aerospace engr. They take a while to get your head wrapped around but super powerful!
31:25 “This doesn’t actually model anything in real life”
-Cough!- Bfr/Starship
It's funny, that comment at 5:33 is exactly what people said about SpaceX ;)
Awesome speech by the way. Really entertaining and really informative about what you've been doing with BPS.space!
Good work, Good Talk. You are awesome!
Hi Joe, just wanted to thank you for pushing me. I just started to get serious about re-learning engineering and programming basics through model rockets (and your channel:)
Also I did FIRST robotics in high school, taught myself audio engineering and production and got a job doing that, then got involved in the SLC film industry 😂 I couldn't believe how similar your story was to mine so far. Hopefully I can keep following in your footsteps!
Wow, this guy is so talented! Bright future ahead!
Awesome skills and amazing progress. Greetings from Poland!
Love your work dude, this is seriously amazing!
So cool can't wait till you master the landings
Crogantulations! Nice talk
Thoroughly enjoyed your talk and very well done for all your hard work so far! I can see great things for BPS! I’m extremely interested in getting started myself, I just need to check the UK forums for rocketry.
Keep it up!
Man! Your videos are amazing! Do you know you look like Elon Musk? 😂
I was just about to comment on how he looks like a young Elon Musk! 😂
If you mean like a man with a dream to better people's understanding about vertical takeoff and land rockets then yes but as of looks! he is just a Yong man looking smart.
exactly
Looks and talks like Elon
Had the same feeling
Better than any TED talk I've ever seen.... !
Man,
Can't wait for you to perfect throttle controlled landing on 2019. Happy new year!
Wishing you all the best! I wish I could start building my thrust vector control rocket this year. Lol
Congratulations for the work on rocketry!
Awesome talk! I loved it so i watch the hole talk :) Keep it going!
Great presentation, Joe.
Well done Mr. Duffy. Well done.
I don't know if this is unique to this conference only, but the model rocket community looks like a pretty good group of people.
It's an amazing group of people. Trip Barber (three rows back on the left), and Chris Flannagan (four rows back on the right) are two of the most awesome and experienced model rocketry R&D researchers you could ever hope to learn the entire spectrum of the hobby from, along with a host of other ground breaking engineers and scientists from some of the best schools in the US in attendance. All are extremely humble, brilliant, and very happy to teach others, especially the young TARC community eager to learn the most recent and advanged modeling technologies.
Dude! Keep up the great work!
All the phases of BPS shown in this keynote:
Phase I [IGNITION] 0:42
Phase II [LIFTOFF] 5:41
Phase III [GRAVITY TURN] 17:12
Phase IV [STAGE SEP] 25:08
Phase V [GOING ORBITAL] 27:52
this is fine for music not for speech. The least you can do when listening to a lecture is to listen to EVERYTHING the person has to say. you are in a hurry you do not listen, or you listen later.
oh boy who's this nerd
An Inspiring Person !
Elon Musk Jr
Hey Iv been binge watching all your videos because you are full of useful information. Thrust vectoring in model rockets is awesome, and the future indeed. (Im working on prototyping a thrust vectoring system with air brakes for our schools rocketry program) I'v never seen a cryogenic liquid fueled model rocket, would be an interesting engineering problem to solve.
You should have more subscribers. Keep up the great work 👍
The gas buggy at 30:17 is an HPI Baja.
This video is beautiful just like all of your videos
Wow!!!!! So Inspiring!!!!! Great and thanks for sharing your practical knowledge, hypothesis, experiments, experience, failures, successes and insights. Absolute legend for the book reference too Rocket Propulsion Elements - by George P. Sutton (Author), Oscar Biblarz (Author). Thank you!!!!! x 100 times 😊👍
Excellent presentation. Very entertaining and informative and a lot of fun. One question comes to mind: have you considered using an EDF for thrust instead of an actual "rocket motor". It would give you a much longer period of "thrust" and could be throttled. I know it's not a real "rocket", but you could work out a lot of your stability software with an analog that lasted a lot longer.
I met someone at National MakerFaire 2016 who was doing jet tab control of an EDF but had SERIOUS issues with power delivery and mass. It's hard to beat the pure POWER of chemical thrust
There's a guy on YT doing a scale model Harrier jet and it works very well even with the small rotating VTOL nozzles. It looks quite heavy.
a couple people tried and did this. it just wasnt interesting bc it doesnt feel like the same thing. plus, that would be destroying joes point of all this
@28:10 so is the plan to take this orbital?
That was awesome! Congratulations!!!
Very impressive work
LMAO Elon musk just learned to speak continously
Joe...
We love you
And would be loving you forever...
You are really great...
As a student I can't support on patreon ...
What was the book you used to get a grip of aerospace engineering?
You should've got a standing ovation for the musical montage at the end.
How bout like 10 stacks of motors that move into position one after the other? Could we get one of these to space?
I wanted to know how you started I mean which books you studied for rocket building....
Just found this channel and company, i really love what you stand for i am really proud of you my brother :D
0 dislikes, very rare. Good work.
Aaaaand you jinxed it
Damn👌👌👌
I did the 42nd like!
Top notch Joe!
you even look like elon musk
He did it
I’ll try the captions but I cannot easily understand the off mic questions posed by the crowd.
Also, it was a good presentation, nice work.
i was wondering how much your engines and other parts are and if you could let me know where to get them
Tbh this is really motivating
Truly inspiring!!!
your pad system is very interesting
Where can i buy your SIGNALS ??????
Please respond i need urgently
.We are ready into the milenion !! 🍻
what kind of arduino did u use??
pls respond
Are you ever going to try orbital, or you explained it here and I’m not listening?
I am sure he will attempt sub-orbital in the future, though orbital is much harder.
Can you tell me what retro motors are and how did you attach it?
Wow I never understood this channel like this
he will be the next generation of Elon
ever think of using hybrid rockets?
Guys guys! i just noticed something! He looks like Richard Branson!
i never got this much oppurtunities....
very sneaky plug at the ending
What is the meaning of BPS of BPS.Space
Barnard propulsion systems
I am wondering if AI can at all be integrated into the flight controls software so the rocket learns how to fly itself instead of doing what human tells it to do? Would that be a better way of developing future flight control software?
There are a few aerospace companies trying this route, but I think it's probably a bad idea. The math behind rocket guidance and control systems is fairly well understood. That's super important for missions and flights that require reliability. By nature, we don't understand how deep learning works, or rather the results of it. So many neural connections are made by the learning algorithm, that we can only look effectively at input vs output. For both of these reasons, it seems like a less safe option overall. The rocket already flies itself too, the user just sets the stability sensitivity. Once the rocket leaves the launch pad, it takes care of all the decisions for how to stay stable and when to deploy parachutes or retro-propulsion. Frankly, a lot of guidance stuff involves linear algebra, coordinate transformations, and a little trigonometry, all of which can be done by most humans. It might be useful in trajectory planning, but certainly at this scale it would be overkill.
When you have a perfect mathematical model for your problem then going the AI route is doing things backwards.
It's like replacing a calculator which is fast and does it's job without mistake with a human which despite being the best AI on the planet does a very poor job compared to a calculator.
You are the best,
where does he get all the money to do this?
excuse me, are you actually trying to land a 15 square cm base and 1 meter tall thing on GRASS ?
@@chocohouse4147 which create a square base of about 15×15 cm
My heart stopped when you said you could make a launchable Saturn V rocket model that takes 5 seconds to clear the tower .....that might just get me into rocketry .....or should i say model rocketry!
Will this work at supersonic speeds?
Legend, uses FREEcad
making alot of progress since then even with all the failures along the way
Amazing talk :D
I'm simply awestruck... Just WOW! If Elon Musk wants to stock up on some more brainpower, Joe Barnard should be fairly high on the wish list!
you like so much like elon musk...
Can we get 5000 subscribers with no videos? IKR
Did Elon musk hire all of the younger rocket community, or do the younger people just sit toward the back?
Awesome video! How did you fund yourself in the beginning with just a degree in music? Were you busking on the streets and playing jazz trombone at the local retirement village and shopping center?
Thanks! No busking, usually the money isn't great for that anyway. Shooting wedding videos and music videos isn't too bad if you get your price structure set up well. You can end up making great money for the time commitment, and you also end up with lots of free time during the week. I took just about all the extra money I made and put it into rockets!
You are amazing, I would love to work on this project with you!
You are the best
Please help
The public doesn't want your "form & function" scenario, the public wants the "static, dynamic, remotely operated, and personal" scenario of participation in any activity. They want a pathway from NO rocketry to riding in their own personal rocket. Why because they "promised" us "hover cars" back in the 50s!
HOLY SHIT U USE QUATERNIONS ???? OMG
5:02 i am willing to bet $5 (all mo money) that a good number of people at SpaceX have seen your projects at this point. Would not be surprised if Musk has seen you in his twitter feed at the very least edit: say the thing
this is kind of given since winners of high powered rocketry competitions do get job offers from companies, so
Against which Code is modifying rocket motors??
Thanks in advance
Audience: why's musk talking about amateur rocketry?
Really he looks like Elon, I was thinking this ;) any telepathic connection? Anyway, You are really a motivation for future scientists! Good luck! I would like to invite you to our university astronomy club for a great guest lecture, at least as an online one.. :)
No the rear Fin ! At begin and sometime .
IT'S YABOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unity also uses Quaternions lmao