Whilst I do not blame, or discriminate against, todays peoples for the crimes of their ancestors I believe it is essential that we know of our history - both good and bad. Hopefully we can learn from it and never repeat it! Please do more of this type of vlog, you have given many of us a greater insight into the history of the Americas - more please.
I remember visiting Pecos for the first time. I originally went there for the Glorieta Pass battlefield, which was interesting, but really found the ruins and remnants there to be quite special. The attendant there said that “there was a battle fought for three days here, and there’s a Pueblo where people lived for 700 years. Most people have only heard of the battle”
An excellent and humbling presentation to observe on Indigenous People’s Day. It’s historical struggles like these that would mold our current world. The more they are lost and forgotten to us either by time or machinations, the less we really understand about our perspectives.
No mention of Javier Maribona-Picard, Jean-Luc's distant ancestor, whose actions after the revolt would have long reaching effects that informed what the captain of the Enterprise would do during the standoff on Dorvan V. I see they've gotten to you, too... erasing the important history details that future generations will need to learn. 😉👍🚀
As an Indigenous Chickasaw and Otoe Missouria person, people in the 2A community more often than not tell me and our peoples to be grateful for Colonialism, and particularly for us and our ancestors being forcibly removed from our families and tribes and adopted to "more qualified" White families. When I try to engage in conversation and share with them our perspectives, histories, abuses, genocide, and specifically the broken legal treaties and Nazi like racist eugenic laws that denied us human status, I am met with extreme hostility. They frequently try to justify the Federal Govt violating law and their own written word, and pretty much doing everything else the 2A community claims to be violations of basic human liberties which they fear for themselves. This video is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for the time, research, and respect you put into this. My People the Chickasaw are why the Spanish border stops near the Mississippi and TN.
I have a hard time equating any of that to Christian or white. Catholicism, in most of its forms, was anything but Christian. And Christian was not a white religion to begin with. But it was all pretty God damned evil. And I mean that literally. Christianity never ordered anyone to do any of the horrific things that were done to these wonderful people. I dare say that their religions were probably similar to Christianity in several aspects. And had real Christians been there, the outcome might have been better. The Catholic Church persecuted many a real Christian for even reading the scriptures. This video makes me want to go back out there and see more of it. I seem to have only scratched the surface and what I have visited.
@@clayhuston3520 I didn't specifically say Christian but I understand your point. The Puritans weren't Catholic and were horrible to our peoples. The Irish Catholics were however overwhelmingly hostile towards indigenous and black folks when it was my Tribe's sister Tribe the Choctaw who provided them with shelter and relief from the Potato Blight. I mentioned White with adoptions because of the 60's scoop. If you're not familiar with it, it was a policy by the US and Canadian Govts backed by Oil and Mineral interests, and the Church, to take as many indigenous children as possible and adopt them to allegedly "more qualified" white families. Their Tribal status was removed and their race recorded as legally white. That way they could strip us of our cultures and lower our numbers so that the treaties protecting our land, and it's oil and mineral wealth were no longer an issue. This was done all the way into the 80's and 90's.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Facts! I'm Choctaw and Cherokee. My Grandparents on both sides were full bloods. My grandmothers first born was taken away from here and given to a white family in Texas. She passed away about 5 years ago at the age of 84 I think, but I would occasionally talk to her about Louise, ( the first borne) and through 40 years of me asking about her it broke her heart every time to speak about it.
I'm gona try to swoop in here before *those* comments start and say thank you for this Karl! I'm not a member of one of the Nations mentioned in this video but I am an enrolled member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. I love seeing how willing you are to cover these kinds of topics despite how a particularly loud minority of your audience reacts to this kind of content. Keep the good work and have a peaceful Indigenous People's Day!
Thank you so much for this important Historical content. It is immeasurably important to look at events such as these unflinchingly and understand the true context of our shared past. Understanding and respect of one another is key to all of us moving forward together.
Karl, Many thanks. Your historical presentations are very interesting; in their own way as enlightening as the firearms related content on InRange. As an inhabitant of far southwest New Mexico, I find your histories of this area of great value. Keep the aspidistra flying! Paul
thank you for this video, Karl. it is imperative that people know the dark pages of their history, the facts without whitewashing and embellishment by the "winners who write the history". being from Russia myself, I have just recently started to dig deeper into the history of that colonial empire (sic!) and re-evaluating the "truths" the history textbooks taught me. it's heartbreaking, but it must be done, for the world will be a slightly better place if more people reflect on their past.
Karl: I lived for like 20+ years in Northern New Mexico. I have had many Pueblo friends and have been invited to dances at several. Cochiti, San Juan, Tesuque... They are very nice people with complex languages and social structures. They are also not as stand-offish as most anglos think at least they were very welcoming to me age 17. A Pueblo dance and its meal is not a thing to miss if you are invited. Being invited is a great honor and should be treated as such. Northern New Mexico is a great place to be raised.
A young Englishman named Frederick Ruxton rode from Mexico City up into the American Southwest during the 1840s and left his journals for modern readers. He described an uprising of locals of Mexican and Peublo descent who rebelled against the newly established American rulers during the Taos Revolt of 1847.
We were at Pecos National Park earlier this year, recommend it to everyone. NM has sites of historical interest like this all over, which are a excellent counterpoint to the wasteland trope some people have of the region.
I appreciate your work with this channel and Ian when he contributes to these little segments. Not just north American tribal history, but the regional history of the southwest and the people that inhabited the the region and the cohabitation of American, Mexican, Spanish, and the Native tribes. Thank you for illuminating the history of the Southwest United States.
Thank you Karl for sharing this part of history. I enjoy learning about our history. It's very important I believe to hear and understand the past for our future.
Happy indigenous day. I am married into a Menominee Metis’ family. There is actual artifactual evidence showing the Menominee went back at least 7500 years…in Wisconsin. 🐺
Colonialism is never pretty but the way the Spanish treated the Indigenous Americans is just on another level of cruelty. Usually I can detach from events that were such a long time ago but this shit just makes me so angry and so sad. It feels just as raw and relevant today as any of the worst atrocities of the 20th century. Excellent video btw, I really appreciate these lesser known aspects of American history.
I completely agree with you. And where did the Spanish get the idea that any of this was Christian? The Catholic Church seemed to be anything but Christian the way they approached other civilizations. Nowhere in any of the Christian writings do I see where these tactics are called for. And all of the apostolic writings, and quotes from Jesus himself, are there any indications that people from other faiths, or just non-believers are to be treated this way. It pisses me off because of its bad representation of the commands given by Jesus.
This is the first one of your deep dives where I have actually been to some of the places mentioned. When I was a kid I spent some time in Santa Fe, I have been to the Palace of Governors, Taos Pueblo, and spent some time in the mountains around Pecos. And I still did not know most of this - Fascinating, and Thank You
Very interesting video. The history of South and North America is sour but amazing. Thank you for your presentation. Would definitely watch more content like this.
Good video on neglected history. I started supporting InRange several years ago due to this type of content. Besides firearms, I'm also interested in Southwest Native American art. I have modest kachina collection and now need to add Yowe to it.
Firstly, great video! Second, I do wonder what the Pueblo and other agricultural based people thought of the apache and commanchee before the arrival of the Spanish
Always remember these people felt the effects of colonialism before they even saw a white person. The American SW and Rocky Mountain front range were a major source of slaves for the Spanish in Mexico starting in the mid 1500s and it wasn't the Spaniards doing the enslaving. It was contracted out to other Native people who also saw it as an opportunity to exert power against competitors for European goods.
If you could tell me, I'd love to know more about the Navajo and Apache involvement in the Pueblo Revolt. What I've read varies. Some accounts mention that the Puebloans were briefly allied with them, while others don't mention them at all.
Thanks, Karl. Very interesting. I marvel at the real facts, truth of the catholic priests’ behavior, with conquistador soldiers backing them up, compared to the kindly, gentle depiction of them in all the 1950’s-1960’s westerns films.
Those priests in the 1850-1860s weren’t Spanish priests. They were Mexican priests, who were raised of mixed blood in the aftermath of the Spanish rule. If you destroy the other cultures, culture war essentially disintegrates
amazing video, makes me want to see all of these places in person, witness the signs of the horrible things that happened and the calmness of the ruins that are now
Read empire of the summer moon recently and it talks about the revolt, the consequences of it being the horse spreading among the plains tribes. Good read.
These Western historical vignettes are always interesting, and it's refreshing to revisit his older ones. No politics (mostly) & lots of maps, which tickles my autism in just the right way.
That was very interesting. Epecially for me as an European knowing not so much about the various indigenous cultures and their history. You never cease to impress, Karl.
I missed this in my feed for over a week. Glad i found it by checking your age directly. Mi love your gun stuff, but your unique historical viewpoint is intriguing in its own way. Also your willingness to explore everyones rights, everyone’s challenges and everyones adverse battles with the dominant norm. That its also become the defacto queer gun channel is interesting af as well.
Speaking of the Acoma… in Abq, there was a merger between the Acoma elementary school and the Juan de Oñate elementary school, in which they wanted to get rid of the acoma name and keep the oñate name. Onate conquered the acoma… yeah that didn’t go down well. There are still lots of people who are proud if their spanish heritage and there’s definitely an air of superiority they hold themselves with that is offputting
As we just seen what happened with the LA city council these Latins are not giving up on Indigenous erasure in the Southwest through avenues such as "latino/Hispanic/Latinx" heritage within the United States.
It is nice to see a Yanqui gun nut doing a historical piece, that is not whitewashed. Hell, most of the people in my area in Alberta, Canada, have a bloody clue about what went on before 1900 in my specific area, Special Areas #4, within Treaty 6 land.
I visited Aztec, Chaco and Mesa Verde this year. Was unforgettable to be there and imagine the life and ingenuity of the people that lived on this land long before any of us.
In the teaching of white oriented history what is emphasized about this revolt is the acquisition of horses by the indigenous peoples allowing some tribes to evolve of a culture of mounted hunting and warfare, especially on the plains. This allowed the Comanches to dominate texas and adjacent parts of the Southwest and to the north. The anglo settlers of Texas with the advent of the colt cap and ball revolver along with greater numbers were finally able to dominate the Comanche. Something the spanish and later mexicans governments were never able to do. Another issue that amazes me is how such a relatively small number of Spanish could utterly dominate a much larger number of people. True that they had iron/steel armaments, cannons and horses. But still we are not talking about repeating rifles and machine guns. One thing to mention is that navajo did adopt agriculture and planted fruit trees of spanish origin with their peach orchards that were burned by the US troops that were with Kit Carson. There has been some work in recent years to bring back those orchards and also the fruit varieties and also the vegetables that cultivated by native american peoples. I read somewhere that the Apache had been doing agriculture in Texas until the Comanches drove drove away off into New Mexico and Arizona where they were forced to live a more marginal existence. Native americans often when they could were willing to try new things learned from the europeans. The europeans also quickly adopted practices and knowledge from the indigenous peoples. The three sisters was one of the native americans greatest innovations.
This a good video. I just have to add that you didn't mention the Valladolid Debate, which is crutial to understand all the racism and slave trade that will happen after 1550. the valladolid debate is very important, it's already at the time a debate about colonialism etc
The saddest part is that this was normal for all humans all throughout history, and it is even normal now for some. This is nowhere near to be an exception or unusual behavior, peace and understanding are the unusual
I like how you wrote this out as if we don't have documental evidence of the Spanish Court telling their representatives in the Americas to not do this. So, you mentioned this was common. I would argue no, there actually has been no similar event in written history. The technological and organizational gap, combined with virgin soil epidemics, turned New World colonization something unique in written Human history. Colonization in other instances did not result in the essential eradication of the Natives the way this did, not in Africa anyway. You may be able to make the claim with how Japan became Yamato or China(mostly) Han(I am not a East Asia specialist, there are people who disagree with this assertion, especially those who lump all East Asians as one "race"). But otherwise the +result+ of the colonization project in the Americas was fairly unique. The levels of enslavement dwarfed that of, say, the Roman conquest of Gaul. Unknown numbers of peoples were genocided without ever having seen a white man thanks to the continents becoming awash with European arms. At the end of it, Native people are so rare in North America that most non-Natives sort of assume they no longer exist. You can't really make this claim with Africa or Asia.
It would be interesting to see what theoretical history would have been if the Spanish and the Portuguese would have been expelled from Turtle Island I.E the Americas there has to be some speculative alternative fiction the deals with this IMO it would be fascinating
I don't think the Tainos are survived by any of their children. From what I've been told (Cuban Tainos) they we're completely wiped out. The Ciboney we're also almost wiped out with a very few families still able to be called desendants.
From the Taino Wikipedia article, which in turn cites articles from Smithsonian and Newsweek among other more focused published education papers: Some anthropologists argue that the historical Taíno peoples no longer exist and that they gradually blended into a shared identity including African and Spanish cultures. However, there are a number of people who identify as Taíno or claim Taíno descent. Most notably, in subsections of the Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Cuban nationalities.[5] Many Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans have Taíno mitochondrial DNA, showing that they are descendants through the direct female lines.[6][7] While some communities claim an unbroken cultural heritage to the old Taíno peoples, others are revivalist communities who seek to incorporate Taíno culture into their lives.
I’d like to jump in here before things get too crowded. There really is very little saving grace for the behavior of many of those Spanish conquistadors, particularly after the settlement of regions. The Spanish were brutal, and made an effort to wipe out cultures, and integrate them into Spanish society. The cultures that we are able to name today like those mentioned in the video were the cultures that were able to resist full integration, pointing to countless others that were absorbed into Spanish colonial culture. I want to warn against using this as a justification or excuse to hate Catholicism or Latin Americans today, as even by the 1810s and 1820s, most of the integration the Spanish seemed had already been realized, where most were already generations removed from the vast majority of the bloodshed and brutality committed by the original colonizers and conquistadors. Today the populations of these countries represent not only a blending of the European and American cultures, but their own evolution of those very cultures. As for Catholicism, this is not even the worst that was committed by some perversion of the faith, but at most, we should use this as a lesson not to glorify the actions of those ancestors, and to understand the reality of what they did, while taking note to never repeat them and learn from their mistakes and misinterpretations.
This almost makes me ashamed to be one of these people the Romans dismissively called 'Christians'. But thank you for this piece of the history of your area, which now speaks my language.
Pretty sure none of the Spanish conquistadors' behavior was called for in the scriptures. I don't think Christian is a bad title. But it is a shame that it was conflated with these horrible monsters. They were anything but Christian.
Whilst I do not blame, or discriminate against, todays peoples for the crimes of their ancestors I believe it is essential that we know of our history - both good and bad. Hopefully we can learn from it and never repeat it!
Please do more of this type of vlog, you have given many of us a greater insight into the history of the Americas - more please.
I remember visiting Pecos for the first time. I originally went there for the Glorieta Pass battlefield, which was interesting, but really found the ruins and remnants there to be quite special. The attendant there said that “there was a battle fought for three days here, and there’s a Pueblo where people lived for 700 years. Most people have only heard of the battle”
An excellent and humbling presentation to observe on Indigenous People’s Day. It’s historical struggles like these that would mold our current world. The more they are lost and forgotten to us either by time or machinations, the less we really understand about our perspectives.
No mention of Javier Maribona-Picard, Jean-Luc's distant ancestor, whose actions after the revolt would have long reaching effects that informed what the captain of the Enterprise would do during the standoff on Dorvan V.
I see they've gotten to you, too... erasing the important history details that future generations will need to learn. 😉👍🚀
As an Indigenous Chickasaw and Otoe Missouria person, people in the 2A community more often than not tell me and our peoples to be grateful for Colonialism, and particularly for us and our ancestors being forcibly removed from our families and tribes and adopted to "more qualified" White families. When I try to engage in conversation and share with them our perspectives, histories, abuses, genocide, and specifically the broken legal treaties and Nazi like racist eugenic laws that denied us human status, I am met with extreme hostility. They frequently try to justify the Federal Govt violating law and their own written word, and pretty much doing everything else the 2A community claims to be violations of basic human liberties which they fear for themselves. This video is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for the time, research, and respect you put into this. My People the Chickasaw are why the Spanish border stops near the Mississippi and TN.
I have a hard time equating any of that to Christian or white. Catholicism, in most of its forms, was anything but Christian. And Christian was not a white religion to begin with. But it was all pretty God damned evil. And I mean that literally. Christianity never ordered anyone to do any of the horrific things that were done to these wonderful people. I dare say that their religions were probably similar to Christianity in several aspects. And had real Christians been there, the outcome might have been better. The Catholic Church persecuted many a real Christian for even reading the scriptures. This video makes me want to go back out there and see more of it. I seem to have only scratched the surface and what I have visited.
@@clayhuston3520 I didn't specifically say Christian but I understand your point.
The Puritans weren't Catholic and were horrible to our peoples. The Irish Catholics were however overwhelmingly hostile towards indigenous and black folks when it was my Tribe's sister Tribe the Choctaw who provided them with shelter and relief from the Potato Blight.
I mentioned White with adoptions because of the 60's scoop. If you're not familiar with it, it was a policy by the US and Canadian Govts backed by Oil and Mineral interests, and the Church, to take as many indigenous children as possible and adopt them to allegedly "more qualified" white families. Their Tribal status was removed and their race recorded as legally white. That way they could strip us of our cultures and lower our numbers so that the treaties protecting our land, and it's oil and mineral wealth were no longer an issue. This was done all the way into the 80's and 90's.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Facts! I'm Choctaw and Cherokee. My Grandparents on both sides were full bloods. My grandmothers first born was taken away from here and given to a white family in Texas. She passed away about 5 years ago at the age of 84 I think, but I would occasionally talk to her about Louise, ( the first borne) and through 40 years of me asking about her it broke her heart every time to speak about it.
I'm gona try to swoop in here before *those* comments start and say thank you for this Karl! I'm not a member of one of the Nations mentioned in this video but I am an enrolled member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. I love seeing how willing you are to cover these kinds of topics despite how a particularly loud minority of your audience reacts to this kind of content. Keep the good work and have a peaceful Indigenous People's Day!
Thank you so much for this important Historical content. It is immeasurably important to look at events such as these unflinchingly and understand the true context of our shared past. Understanding and respect of one another is key to all of us moving forward together.
Karl,
Many thanks. Your historical presentations are very interesting; in their own way as enlightening as the firearms related content on InRange. As an inhabitant of far southwest New Mexico, I find your histories of this area of great value.
Keep the aspidistra flying!
Paul
thank you for this video, Karl. it is imperative that people know the dark pages of their history, the facts without whitewashing and embellishment by the "winners who write the history". being from Russia myself, I have just recently started to dig deeper into the history of that colonial empire (sic!) and re-evaluating the "truths" the history textbooks taught me. it's heartbreaking, but it must be done, for the world will be a slightly better place if more people reflect on their past.
Karl: I lived for like 20+ years in Northern New Mexico. I have had many Pueblo friends and have been invited to dances at several. Cochiti, San Juan, Tesuque... They are very nice people with complex languages and social structures. They are also not as stand-offish as most anglos think at least they were very welcoming to me age 17. A Pueblo dance and its meal is not a thing to miss if you are invited. Being invited is a great honor and should be treated as such. Northern New Mexico is a great place to be raised.
In Range TV: bringing us the education about American history we never got in school.
An absolutely terrific presentation, and of course a very boss move, dropping it on this particular day. 👍
👍 I second your comment !
A young Englishman named Frederick Ruxton rode from Mexico City up into the American Southwest during the 1840s and left his journals for modern readers. He described an uprising of locals of Mexican and Peublo descent who rebelled against the newly established American rulers during the Taos Revolt of 1847.
These historical videos are great and it’s clear you put a lot of time and research in. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Karl
Hatuey's response is based beyond reckoning
I went to school literally behind the Casa Grande Ruins. It's humbling.
great to see the struggles of indigenous people shown without a colonial lens
Thank you for including our ancient culture...
Thank you for the history lesson on a subject I know nothing about. I genuinely appreciate it.
It is really good to see pre and early colonisation history in this area.
Cheers.
We were at Pecos National Park earlier this year, recommend it to everyone.
NM has sites of historical interest like this all over, which are a excellent counterpoint to the wasteland trope some people have of the region.
I appreciate your work with this channel and Ian when he contributes to these little segments. Not just north American tribal history, but the regional history of the southwest and the people that inhabited the the region and the cohabitation of American, Mexican, Spanish, and the Native tribes. Thank you for illuminating the history of the Southwest United States.
thank you karl for your well-composed lesson on this forgotten history!
Thank you Karl for sharing this part of history. I enjoy learning about our history. It's very important I believe to hear and understand the past for our future.
Happy indigenous day. I am married into a Menominee Metis’ family. There is actual artifactual evidence showing the Menominee went back at least 7500 years…in Wisconsin. 🐺
Love these videos thank you for sharing important parts of history with us.
Colonialism is never pretty but the way the Spanish treated the Indigenous Americans is just on another level of cruelty. Usually I can detach from events that were such a long time ago but this shit just makes me so angry and so sad. It feels just as raw and relevant today as any of the worst atrocities of the 20th century. Excellent video btw, I really appreciate these lesser known aspects of American history.
I completely agree with you. And where did the Spanish get the idea that any of this was Christian? The Catholic Church seemed to be anything but Christian the way they approached other civilizations. Nowhere in any of the Christian writings do I see where these tactics are called for. And all of the apostolic writings, and quotes from Jesus himself, are there any indications that people from other faiths, or just non-believers are to be treated this way. It pisses me off because of its bad representation of the commands given by Jesus.
This is the first one of your deep dives where I have actually been to some of the places mentioned. When I was a kid I spent some time in Santa Fe, I have been to the Palace of Governors, Taos Pueblo, and spent some time in the mountains around Pecos. And I still did not know most of this - Fascinating, and Thank You
Very interesting video. The history of South and North America is sour but amazing. Thank you for your presentation. Would definitely watch more content like this.
Good video on neglected history. I started supporting InRange several years ago due to this type of content.
Besides firearms, I'm also interested in Southwest Native American art. I have modest kachina collection and now need to add Yowe to it.
Can you do one on the Mississippian culture of North America. That would be greatly appreciated by many and would help to grow your platform.
I had never known anything about this part of history. Thanks!
Firstly, great video!
Second, I do wonder what the Pueblo and other agricultural based people thought of the apache and commanchee before the arrival of the Spanish
Always remember these people felt the effects of colonialism before they even saw a white person.
The American SW and Rocky Mountain front range were a major source of slaves for the Spanish in Mexico starting in the mid 1500s and it wasn't the Spaniards doing the enslaving. It was contracted out to other Native people who also saw it as an opportunity to exert power against competitors for European goods.
They had those cliff houses for a reason . Far before the Spanish ever arrived .
The others probably traded with them .
Check out Skull Valley near Presscot . How it Got it's nane ???
On my mom's side of the family, they say this man they call Po'pay is from where we descended!
If you could tell me, I'd love to know more about the Navajo and Apache involvement in the Pueblo Revolt. What I've read varies. Some accounts mention that the Puebloans were briefly allied with them, while others don't mention them at all.
Thanks, Karl. Very interesting. I marvel at the real facts, truth of the catholic priests’ behavior, with conquistador soldiers backing them up, compared to the kindly, gentle depiction of them in all the 1950’s-1960’s westerns films.
See if you can get a history book on what we colloquially call 'The Spanish Inquisition'.
And it was not entirely Spanish.
Those priests in the 1850-1860s weren’t Spanish priests. They were Mexican priests, who were raised of mixed blood in the aftermath of the Spanish rule. If you destroy the other cultures, culture war essentially disintegrates
Karl, that was fantastic. It was well done, informative, and fascinating. Keep up the phenomenal work and keep shaking your fist at the sky.
amazing video, makes me want to see all of these places in person, witness the signs of the horrible things that happened and the calmness of the ruins that are now
I really appreciate these videos.
Very interesting. Happy Columbus day everyone!
Read empire of the summer moon recently and it talks about the revolt, the consequences of it being the horse spreading among the plains tribes. Good read.
Prime bit of InRange content Karl, always interesting to learn something new
Thanks for educating everyone Karl!!
good video Karl, very well presented indeed. Kudos to you once again from Colorado
Thanks for expanding the public understanding of the real history of this continent.
Good job Karl, i knew basically nothing about that part of history.
These Western historical vignettes are always interesting, and it's refreshing to revisit his older ones. No politics (mostly) & lots of maps, which tickles my autism in just the right way.
Wow. Thank you for sharing their story.
That was very interesting. Epecially for me as an European knowing not so much about the various indigenous cultures and their history.
You never cease to impress, Karl.
Glad you cover these things.
I missed this in my feed for over a week. Glad i found it by checking your age directly.
Mi love your gun stuff, but your unique historical viewpoint is intriguing in its own way.
Also your willingness to explore everyones rights, everyone’s challenges and everyones adverse battles with the dominant norm.
That its also become the defacto queer gun channel is interesting af as well.
I love this type of content on this channel, more Karl please 🙏🏼
Fascinating. Thanks, Karl.
Totally fascinating. Certainly nothing like what is taught in schools.
Speaking of the Acoma… in Abq, there was a merger between the Acoma elementary school and the Juan de Oñate elementary school, in which they wanted to get rid of the acoma name and keep the oñate name. Onate conquered the acoma… yeah that didn’t go down well. There are still lots of people who are proud if their spanish heritage and there’s definitely an air of superiority they hold themselves with that is offputting
As we just seen what happened with the LA city council these Latins are not giving up on Indigenous erasure in the Southwest through avenues such as "latino/Hispanic/Latinx" heritage within the United States.
It is nice to see a Yanqui gun nut doing a historical piece, that is not whitewashed. Hell, most of the people in my area in Alberta, Canada, have a bloody clue about what went on before 1900 in my specific area, Special Areas #4, within Treaty 6 land.
I love this content. Thanks Karl.
Awesome content!
Thank You for this content! 👍🙏
I visited Aztec, Chaco and Mesa Verde this year. Was unforgettable to be there and imagine the life and ingenuity of the people that lived on this land long before any of us.
Oh man I just moved to Santa Fe and was reading about this
In the teaching of white oriented history what is emphasized about this revolt is the acquisition of horses by the indigenous peoples allowing some tribes to evolve of a culture of mounted hunting and warfare, especially on the plains. This allowed the Comanches to dominate texas and adjacent parts of the Southwest and to the north. The anglo settlers of Texas with the advent of the colt cap and ball revolver along with greater numbers were finally able to dominate the Comanche. Something the spanish and later mexicans governments were never able to do.
Another issue that amazes me is how such a relatively small number of Spanish could utterly dominate a much larger number of people. True that they had iron/steel armaments, cannons and horses. But still we are not talking about repeating rifles and machine guns.
One thing to mention is that navajo did adopt agriculture and planted fruit trees of spanish origin with their peach orchards that were burned by the US troops that were with Kit Carson. There has been some work in recent years to bring back those orchards and also the fruit varieties and also the vegetables that cultivated by native american peoples.
I read somewhere that the Apache had been doing agriculture in Texas until the Comanches drove drove away off into New Mexico and Arizona where they were forced to live a more marginal existence.
Native americans often when they could were willing to try new things learned from the europeans. The europeans also quickly adopted practices and knowledge from the indigenous peoples. The three sisters was one of the native americans greatest innovations.
This a good video. I just have to add that you didn't mention the Valladolid Debate, which is crutial to understand all the racism and slave trade that will happen after 1550. the valladolid debate is very important, it's already at the time a debate about colonialism etc
The saddest part is that this was normal for all humans all throughout history, and it is even normal now for some. This is nowhere near to be an exception or unusual behavior, peace and understanding are the unusual
I like how you wrote this out as if we don't have documental evidence of the Spanish Court telling their representatives in the Americas to not do this.
So, you mentioned this was common. I would argue no, there actually has been no similar event in written history. The technological and organizational gap, combined with virgin soil epidemics, turned New World colonization something unique in written Human history. Colonization in other instances did not result in the essential eradication of the Natives the way this did, not in Africa anyway. You may be able to make the claim with how Japan became Yamato or China(mostly) Han(I am not a East Asia specialist, there are people who disagree with this assertion, especially those who lump all East Asians as one "race").
But otherwise the +result+ of the colonization project in the Americas was fairly unique. The levels of enslavement dwarfed that of, say, the Roman conquest of Gaul. Unknown numbers of peoples were genocided without ever having seen a white man thanks to the continents becoming awash with European arms. At the end of it, Native people are so rare in North America that most non-Natives sort of assume they no longer exist. You can't really make this claim with Africa or Asia.
Excellent overview. Unfortunately human history is filled with similar events. Maybe one day we'll learn not to treat our fellows this way.
Thank you, Karl.
It’s unfortunate that these Christians completely ignored the teachings of Christ.
Very well timed release of this video
It would be interesting to see what theoretical history would have been if the Spanish and the Portuguese would have been expelled from Turtle Island I.E the Americas there has to be some speculative alternative fiction the deals with this IMO it would be fascinating
Ima check it out thank you
Story in short - The Spanish are Crazy (we aren't even talking about Florida in this either)
The spanish were quite active in Oklahoma as well . The overlay doesn't go east far enough ...
Church too, Rome, Avignon were pleased
Well done!
Been to the Gila site, it's an awesome reminder that the country was civilized well before Europeans came on the scene.
Excellent as always Karl! Simply amazing what some do “in the name of the Lord”
Very informative
Man those Pueblo cats can build some sweet stuff
Thank you
Good video
poured adobe? not bricks just larned about this building material today
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Leyendra Negra
Those who have run the affairs behind the scenes for GOD knows how long all the way back Nimrod...bummer seems to be repeated over and over again :(
I always knew you were a good egg Karl. Wonderful educational video.
I would enjoy a more detailed series on this subject matter.
Well, that was all new to me. Very enlightening!
Very important history
I don't think the Tainos are survived by any of their children. From what I've been told (Cuban Tainos) they we're completely wiped out. The Ciboney we're also almost wiped out with a very few families still able to be called desendants.
From the Taino Wikipedia article, which in turn cites articles from Smithsonian and Newsweek among other more focused published education papers:
Some anthropologists argue that the historical Taíno peoples no longer exist and that they gradually blended into a shared identity including African and Spanish cultures. However, there are a number of people who identify as Taíno or claim Taíno descent. Most notably, in subsections of the Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Cuban nationalities.[5] Many Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans have Taíno mitochondrial DNA, showing that they are descendants through the direct female lines.[6][7] While some communities claim an unbroken cultural heritage to the old Taíno peoples, others are revivalist communities who seek to incorporate Taíno culture into their lives.
I’d like to jump in here before things get too crowded. There really is very little saving grace for the behavior of many of those Spanish conquistadors, particularly after the settlement of regions. The Spanish were brutal, and made an effort to wipe out cultures, and integrate them into Spanish society. The cultures that we are able to name today like those mentioned in the video were the cultures that were able to resist full integration, pointing to countless others that were absorbed into Spanish colonial culture.
I want to warn against using this as a justification or excuse to hate Catholicism or Latin Americans today, as even by the 1810s and 1820s, most of the integration the Spanish seemed had already been realized, where most were already generations removed from the vast majority of the bloodshed and brutality committed by the original colonizers and conquistadors.
Today the populations of these countries represent not only a blending of the European and American cultures, but their own evolution of those very cultures.
As for Catholicism, this is not even the worst that was committed by some perversion of the faith, but at most, we should use this as a lesson not to glorify the actions of those ancestors, and to understand the reality of what they did, while taking note to never repeat them and learn from their mistakes and misinterpretations.
Interesting video, I had assumed the native people to be the same as the ones to the north but then I've never really looked into the subject.
Karl pretty okay man
Citizen Potawatomi Nation checking in.
The fight against fascism, in all it's forms, is timeless. We're not done yet.
Happy Columbus Day!
Happy Lief Eriksson day!
I liked it
So much N American history that is not taught.
This almost makes me ashamed to be one of these people the Romans dismissively called 'Christians'.
But thank you for this piece of the history of your area, which now speaks my language.
Pretty sure none of the Spanish conquistadors' behavior was called for in the scriptures. I don't think Christian is a bad title. But it is a shame that it was conflated with these horrible monsters. They were anything but Christian.
Happy indigenous peoples day
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