BOY! Thanks for watching. This was a very fun (and complicated) episode to get done. Also, if you haven't played the game and you have a PS4, you probably should. It's fantastic. -- KH
Quarter2Doom If you are thinking of things like someone shattering a banana dipped in liquid nitrogen you might be under a bit of a misconception. When the temperature is lowered, objects require more energy to deform, not less. So the blade would actually be harder to break or bend because the atomic binding between molecules would become stronger. You can snap a rose in half with your fingers when it is room temp but it requires a hammer to break in half when frozen.
Here's an interesting article on how those scientists can achieve sub-1-Kelvin temperatures: www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-are-temperatures-clos/ I think active cooling like they do here might be a more plausible way for the axe to work
So going on with the example of how "Cold" works by accepting kinetic energy from warm particles... Going below 0 Kl (Al be it impossible) will mean that the blade is somehow supposed to not only accept kinetic energy, but absorb more than it is usually given? Probably doesn't make sense any way
When you called your Leviathan Axe to you while explaning the variables it took it 39 sec to reach you (4:30 - 5:09). Using YT's video speed control I measured that the axe moved from the right side of the screen to the left side in 1.9 sek at 1/4 speed which means that it flew by you in 0.475 sec. To calculate the width of the section of the emotionless void that is shown in the video I used the average shoulder width of about 19in or 48.26cm and measured that your shoulders were 15cm apart on my 34.2cm screen in fullscreen mode. This means that your body from shoulder to shoulder is taking up 44.05% of the videos width and 48.26/0.4405 = 109.55cm is the range of the void that is visible. Taking my time measurement from earlier I calculated that the axe was flying through the screen at a speed of 0.475s/1.0955m = 2.306m/s. This means that if your axe took 39 sek to reach you, assuming it flew at a relatively constant speed after take-off, it was about 90m (295ft 3.3in) away from you. This is over three times the current world record for throwing an axe at a target. (The biggest number I could find is 27.5m or 90ft) Congratulations to your achievement! Greetings from Germany! ~ Luke
Nope this is how it would play out: Human: Excuse me. Kratos: [*just keeps walking not even loocking directly at you just tilts his head slightly in your direction*] What do you want? Human: I just wanted to know how cold your axe actually is. Kratos: I dont know. Human: But you use this Axe all the time! And your wife used it a lot too! you must at least know how cold it is? right? Kratos: [*loocks at you directly, visibly annoyed by your question*] If you keep bothering us you find out how cold this axe is faster than you like! Atreus: Father, how does He/She Know about Mother? Kratos: [*Points his view just to the side were the boy is walking, then back to you after a moment*] Human: listen man, its for sience, i have to know! i saw how this thing freezes Draugr in mere seconds! Kratos: [*annoyed*] Are you just some person stalking people, annoying them with mindless questions? Atreus: But how does he/she know about all that? did He/She Follow us around? Kratos: Come Boy, we have to leave. Human: Come on man can i at least measure the temperature, it would just take a moment. Kratos: [*turns around staring at you obviously unhappy with your constant jabbering*] Leave, us, BE. Human: [*you stopped asking kratos about the axe out of a healthy concern about you staying alive*] The End And thats how that would go. PS: The Alternative: you keep buggin him until you get your teeth kicked in. The End. :)
I would like to point out that the Axe doesn't freeze someone solid. It encases them in ice. If it froze them solid then they would shatter into pieces when you hit them once. In the game they unfreeze and the ice shatters off of them.
Matthew Hilliker I guess technically, they can shatter if you hit them and make them go flying towards and hit a solid surface (Wall or Rock) so in a sense, they can be cold enough to shatter but not enough with a single punch which is the point you’re trying to make obviously...
Before watching the video, I'm just gonna say this. Kratos' axe is so "cold" that it froze a freakn lightning, which is even hotter than the surface of the sun. Edit: I believe it embodies an eternal "cold" or "frost"... Or simply, frozen flame
@@isaacyeon6334 yeah i would say people not knowing that value is the problem... many seems to think that its like a million K or some other ridiculous value..😂
To freeze an enemy with an ace throw, you have to hold back L2 and R2. This charges up the throw and when he swings it back, the axe covers itself in loads of ice.
@@christophermoore6110 Same reason why you assume they won't die. We don't know. Even in the game, they are frozen in some places, yet they come to life when we get near. Also at the same time, frost attacks work on them. So, we can't say what works and what does not.
But IF the axe froze the Draugr completely they wouldn't be able to come back to 'life' as soon as Kratos called the axe back. Wouldn't it be more 'realistic' if inside the axes engraving there would be some kind of outlet for supercooled Liquid Or Gas? So the impact of the Axe would release an burst of this gas and cool down the humidity around the victim so much, that it would be encased in ice (theoretically). Maybe the Dwarves Punch-markings are actually some kind of pressure pump Process which fill up a container inside the Axes Handle with a Liquid or gas they create from the frozen flames? This also would explain why he can shoot Ice waves over the ground and encase the blade with Ice. Some real Eitri shit going on there. Ancient weaponry which actually is a huge chunk of technology.
That is impossible, because, the realms have a temperature that is not infinitely cold. Rather, it has a Temperature, keeping the axe from going to an infinitely cold temperature. If it was that cold, it would FREEZE LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE.
Hi all! I discussed freezing with Kyle for a bit. The critical issue, as the video explains, is the temperature gradient. Between 0K and body temperature (37°C or 310K), there is a gradient of... 310K. As the flesh cools, the temperature gradient becomes smaller and the heat transfer (further cooling) becomes slower and slower. The best approximation is actually 273K, because that is the temperature at which water freezes and becomes ice. Phase changes happen at constant temperature: the temperature does not change until you remove enough heat energy to change liquid water at 0°C into ice at 0°C. Even worse, as the ice layer gets thicker, the 'L' value in the equation becomes bigger, which proportionately slows down heat transfer. Trying to cool flesh through 10cm of ice is ten times harder than through 1cm of ice. Another problem is that heatsinks... eventually fill up. Kratos's axe might be magic and stay perfectly cold no matter what, but real world objects heat up as they absorb heat. Imagine you put two ice cubes inside a cup full of hot coffee. It will only cool down by a little bit, until the ice cubes melt. If you put four ice cubes in, you'll cool it down twice as much, and so on, until the coffee is ice-cold... that is the 'cooling capacity' of the ice cubes. A real world axe would have a cooling capacity too. If it were made of steel, this wouldn't be much. If the axe has a volume of 0.0004m^3, then the steel would absorb at most 0.0004m^3 * 8000kg/m^2 * 500J/kg/K * 310K = 496kJ. That is barely enough to freeze 1kg of flesh. So, coming back to Kyle's conclusion, in the best of cases, freezing a Draugr instantly is impossible, and with realistic considerations, it's even more impossible.
Great video Kyle! But I do think you made a bit of a wrong assumption... Draugrs are dead bois right? So then why compare their body temperature to alive bois? id bet they have a lower body temperature, and I think that if you took the temperature of a corpse, you’d have a closer approximation. Corpses, due to death chill (algor mortis), lose heat at about .83 degrees Celsius (1.5 degF) each hour until they reach room temp. And, draugrs are corpses of dead dudes reanimated, right? So, depending on where the draugr came from, and how long it’s been in the place you are in, it’s body temperature would vary. SO if a draugr came from a northern area, and was chillin out in a frozen wasteland waiting to fight Kratos (kinda like how we see in the game) his/her body temp may already be below freezing!! I’d bet our frost ace could freeze them through then!
Would the fact that the corpse is reanimated and moving around increase it's temperature a bit above room temperature? Maybe not much, but I would guess that tissue on tissue friction and things like that would heat it up a bit.
Lord Baktor really good point! Only problem is I’m not sure how we’d implement that in the formula, since we don’t know how much friction/heat is being produced. Really good point though I didn’t think of that!
I believe that, even if those bois were already at 0C, the amount of heat transfer needed to bump it over from liquid 0C to solid 0C is still too much. Source: Matter Beam; see above
ninjajake21 but they wouldn't be able to move without snapping off limbs. Kyle is right that you must assume the creature is at least above frosting temperature, which can occur at around 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Hell, the motions they make would warm them up just from friction. If you want to get that detailed, then they wouldn't have sweat or exhalation, which means any movement would warm them up extremely fast. They dont have the biological heatsinks that nature provides living beings.
Elias F Depends which infinity stone. Time: You get a time altering lightsaber. Power: You get a giant lightsaber. Reality: You get a Chuthulu style tenticle monster lightsaber. Soul: You get a soul stealing lightsaber. Mind: You get a backtalking C3PO lightsaber with very little actual use. : p
RNG zus Thor has four letters which is 4 which sounds like the Japanese word for Die which is 3 letters and a Triangle has 3 sides and Kratos which is 6 letters that's two threes which is 9 which can make 3 Illuminatis which is the number of Edges and Sides an Illuminati has which makes a Mega Illuminati because it's three Illuminatis *MEGA ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED*
Since the leviathan axe seem to get cold all by itself, I'm assuming it breaks the conservation of energy and just voids heat because magic. I know, wrong show.
Neglecting the (extremely large) problem of the cold not being able to be cold enough... When the draugr gets frozen, presumably all of that thermal energy goes directly back into the axe head instantaneously. That's a massive increase in temperature for the axe blade, but then it has to be re-cooled back down so that it can be chain-thrown repeatedly and still be able to maintain its freezing efficacy. It's very unlikely that the axe itself is providing this cooling since that would mean that it would eventually run out of whatever coolant it was using. Since Kratos is coming into contact with the weapon between throws, it can only be Kratos himself cooling the blade off by touching it. Maybe this is why Kratos bursts into flames - he absorbs so much of the heat from the Leviathan Axe that it causes him to combust!
Quick fact. If Kratos' axe absorb the heat from things that it froze and we assumed an average human body, if all the heat went into the handle, it would increase in temperature by over 3000C. That is hot enough to melt titanium and definitely beyond the ignition point of the wood.
Sean Peery maybe that’s why you build the rage meter by killing shit, because all that heat is being absorbed by Kratos himself and turned into his fiery Spartan Rage. Notice that he’s never holding any weapons in his hands when the rage is active in GoW4
Well I mean it's a magic freezing axe that can magically return if thrown, it wss made by a pair of magical dwarves, it's upgraded by a magical material called frozen flame, the source of it's cold comes from some magical ice trolls, and it can magically withstand the force that Kratos can swing it at, so there's a small chance that the wood might be magical, but no guarantee
What if the axe didn't rely on the static conductivity but somehow increased that conductivity so that heat could be exchanged faster? Kind of like how blowing on hot soup makes it cool faster. I don't know what mechanism that might be, any ideas?
*Insert multiple sentences that are related to change of temperature, surface area and total volume* *Insert equation* *Insert conclusion* Love you, Kyle.
Hey, what about another assumption. Keep the axe at 0K. But assume that the axe would just turn into liquid as soon as it touches something and freeze within let's say 5 sec and was some material that doesn't absorb heat and so won't melt off by body heat ( radiations ☠) or won't allow the flesh inside to radiate heat (or probably slowed heat radiation). Then it would be correct. It didn't instantly freeze flesh but it formed a layer outside that froze, encasing them in ice, the same effect. Another thing the bodies were dead and environment was already ice cold so the bodies were already below 0°C. So we don't really need to worry about heat radiations again melting the ice formed around them.
what if time was accelerated by the magic of the axe? (meaning the minutes necessary to freeze an opponent passed by for that opponent in an extremely accelerated rate?)
Well, using the numbers Kyle used on the Stormbreaker episode, if all the energy was kept in the head from the casting process would be 200,000,000,000,000,000,000J of energy. if that was discharged as electricity in a .1 second, its wattage would be 1,318,815,734.48W.
There are two other variables you could mess with, even if making a real thing with these properties is not possible. The first is the active surface area of the axe. We see it embed itself in the monster, so the surface area is a bit more than you used. The second is the thermal conductivity of the axe. It is forged to be suitable for gods after all, so i don't think it is made of steel. If we made the thermal conductivity much higher than the level you used, then you can reduce the time further.
I am sorry but your calculation completely breaks down when you lower the temperature at near zero but you leave the same value at the constant k. At these temperatures the thermal capacities are completely different and they are not even continuous and therefore cause a completely different k. Also at these temps Bose-Einstein condensates are going to be formed so I wouldn’t go as far as to use the law of conduction, i f I were to do such a calculation myself I’d probably do the microscopical view first getting the results of atomic interactions and then use distribution functions to find the transfer of heat, but not as heat, as energy states first and the convert that to temperature. Also, I’d do that because of the lack of thermodynamic data for the materials used. If the axe was from solid helium for instance I might use some thermodynamic data as well in order to save some effort, but even for water at these temps no data exist. (I love your vids, plus I am doing a PhD in cryogenics so that why I wanted to give my input!)
However you want to calculate the temperature gradient of the ax & some fleshy creature-looking thing, it's still not gonna change the overall conclusion. Absolute Zero, or 0K, is still NOT cold enough to freeze animate/inanimate objects within seconds. Atomic interactions, distribution functions, whatever, is not going to make a difference, or a significant one at that. Your values may differ, but the end result is still the same. It's just not "cool" enough, plain & simple.
What if it was, instead of drawing heat away instead forcing atoms to slow down by slowing time? Wouldnt that object or badboi seem colder to the rest of us? Alternatively, what if it was just freezing the air and moisture around the enemy. Encasing them rather than freezing them solid. Also this shows why Iceman is an Omega Level mutant in Marvel Universe.
What if the axe doesn't freeze, but instead just sucks up the heat into the blade. I mean this is magic were talking about, and magic is just science we cannot explain yet.
Well, that is in fact what Kyle described, heat transferring from a Creature to the Blade through the transfer of kinetic energy, effectively sucking the heat from the poor (now very frosty) boy.
Sucking up heat is what freezing is, but you raise an interesting point. We can't see the blade of the axe when it's embedded, so it could be increasing its area once it buries itself in. Sending out little cold tendrils or something.
Hyenatwo 4 I would say roughly 20,000-21,500 MPH just because of how intense the fire is it’s not a corona of Fire it’s a complete blaze engulfing the blades
I'd rather know, how hot would they need to be to be spun around and still hold a constant flame? (In moves like GoW3's L1+square they spin around him really fast and seem to make more flames)
Fun fact - the same heat transfer as described in 2:45 happens in ducks feet venes and that's what allows them to walk on much lower temperature surfaces without freezing and hurting them :D
Kyle, wouldn't it be possible for the Leviathan axe could also generate liquid with temperatures you mentioned? The axe in game, as it impacts a target, explodes slightly on impact before the target freezes. That seems to me it's not freezing the target, but rather coating it in a liquid the axe generates. It can also explain why when the axe hits a interactive object, gears for example, they get covered in ice quickly. So instead of the axe being super cold it's self it can make a super cold liquid, like Mai's weapon in Overwatch, explode on contact, then constantly secreting the liquid covering foe, gear, or poison generating totem in a thick layer of ice. Could this be what's happening?
The unite of measurement for that much coldness can only be measured in "MyGF'sHeart" measurements. Those measurements measure a temperature so cold, it freezes *your soul!* Yeah, Cratos axe can freeze your soul according to these measurements!
The axe doesn't necessarily need to freeze the entire body. When you freeze an enemy in the game, sometimes they thaw themselves out on their own, which would imply their interior is still warm and the heat from the inside would move outwards in order to thaw the enemy out
What if its not the flesh that's freezing? What if its the air around the enemy that freezes? Is there any way that's physically possible? Also are you ever gonna tell us how do you write on that glass????? Btw the last part was really cool
Just a thought, but if that’s what’s required to freeze near instantly, imagine the heat burst that occurs as you pull the axe back. Sure, it causes a little damage in the game & we have to ignore magic as before, but I’d imagine the heat required to insta-thaw them on axe recall would be enough to cause catastrophic conflagration in the surrounding area also, resulting in them seeming going from freezing to burning from environmental fire, not to mention setting nearby enemies ablaze.
If the temperature changed so rapidly, that means that the pressure changes rapidly, right? So wouldn't the pressure change completely destroy the draugr? Also, if it does, then the draugr would explode because of the pressure difference and the poor boy would forever be haunted by the visions of a dead corpse exploding into a million little bits right in front of him. I also saw a simmilar comment that said something about the temperature difference and explosions. Pls no hard feelings, I'm not copying your comment. You have a good point and I'm just saying that the pressure difference would do a simmilar effect.
Vedran Jakelic Thats only for gases. solids and liquids dont do that. so the air in their lungs (if indeed draugr have functioning lungs) would depressurize and they would basically take a massive breath in assuming theyre not sealed in ice. After that, their lungs might explode while they thawed or they might just make a similarly large breath out, im not sure. Might depend on the speed with which they thaw.
Just imagine having air forced inside of your lungs. Should be a painful experience... But yeah corpses do not react like that to cold, cause our fleshy bois have a proper volume and proper shape, which in turns mean that he won't explode that easily from rapid temperature shift !
What if the axe sucks every last bit of heat from what kratos uses it on, and then transfers it to kratos to power his Spartan rage and blades of chaos
One thing, isn't the drauger very warm since if you execute some of them they explode and deal fire status effect on enemies near the execution. This scientific explanation would work on the Hel-walkers but they are resistant to attacks from the leviathen axe
what if the blade isn't cold, but warm? the mpemba effect is the observation that warm water freezes much more quickly than cold water. what if the blade is heating up their bodies so that they are becoming frozen, not from the blade itself, but from their frozen environment freezing them due to the mostly water bodies of the draugr being easier to freeze?
dpbw0w but enemies freeze in muspelheim, too and it's definetly not cold there so i doubt that it could be explained that way but it's still a cool idea haha
That wouldn’t work because the blade works in Spring season like conditions. The whole game isn’t in a frosty land it covers many areas with different temperatures and the axe always instantly freezes them.
Water freezing faster when warm vs cold is specific to water, and tap water at that. Pure H2O doesn't demonstrate this effect and it is still unknown what chemical reaction causes this exactly, but it is through to have to do with the minerality of the water. Other materials do no demonstrate this effect so it would not work here.
In addition to other replies, heating something up would take just as long as cooling it down unless you intend to actually burn it, in which case, there should be charring or ignition.
He concentrates on what should appear and use the marker as a focus to do so, like writing "I am Voldemort" in Harry Potter, only in neater scripture. ;-)
In my AD&D game, a wreckage of a Movian starcraft was being explored by the adventurers. One wizard was able, through magic, read a Movian research report. "We found how magical cold works. It is not the lack of heat. Magic alters the very nature of things around it. Magical cold can best be described as 'anti-heat'. It is even more so with the quasi-elemental particals known as Ash."
Isn't it possible for the leviathan axe to freeze the air around the draugr and thereby freezing it in place, instead of it having to freeze it's body. It should be possible since air freezes at about 58 Kelvin.
Problem is that air is composed of a lot of gases that do not freeze at the same time (that's why you can have liquid nitrogen, oxygen etc...) and also, because air has shitty conductivity, which really wouldn't allow to freeze it instantly. Nice try though !
This would result in quite a cloud of smoke,in contact, but like I said, air a shitty conductivity, meaning that you culdn't accomplish that very often, also, you would have to invent such a filter field, which, in this case couldn't really be very grounded. We are trying to reconstitute the axe in real life after all, not using magical logic scream-of-troll here ! Anyway, you would also have to make the axe quite shallow in order to accomodate that much nitrogen anyway, and it still wouldn't be cold enough to freeze the air around your draugh, remember that liquid nitrogen vaporize quickly, but do not really freeze the air around it. And also, with so much liquid in it, it would make a water bottle noise every single time that Kratos or anyone weilding it is moving the axe-head, and it's not that great to stay serious and moody.
What if the axe didn't actually freeze its targets, but instead caused something like rigor mortis and "magically" turned them frosty blue in appearance only? Maybe the axe could turn cold on command, but not to the extent of freezing someone. That "freezing" is actually a deceptive paralytic that turns all of the target's muscles rigid, and given the outward appearance freezing, the common person would assume the axe has extreme temperature-manipulating properties. Can we realistically science this weapon into fooling the average joe into believing they can actually freeze their targets without literally freezing them in the time shown in the game? If not instantaneously, at least in the order of seconds.
Well, with an axe lodged into your head or chest and with the rest of your body paralyzed, I don't expect the target would be doing much thinking at all. But maybe we could fool the person throwing the axe (and potentially any other onlookers) into thinking his axe has instantaneous freezing capabilities.
neat!...then lets say that heat energy were somehow stored to power it's return flight? just because it's generated doesn't mean it can't be captured and stored...right? (I"m not sure just thinking out loud here) assuming the first part were somehow physically possible, why not use that energy to fuel a system? it would need to be released at some point though....but how?
It would still show us how much the magic would have to cover. Besides, we already know that we need to go below 0K. Having numbers is always better than not knowing.
Chris Wild We could instead plug in 0 Kelvin and the desired time to find out how much the other variables need to be tweaked. We might find values which are "theoretically" feasible in reality.
Can I raise a suggestion which may bring a science like option. The axe doesn't just cool it creates ice. So what if either it creates ice inside the enemies which harms them by stabbing and immobilizing them from the inside to cause damage or.... It takes all water inside the target and flash freezes it to zero kelvin. The cumulative effect would be devastating. Which is why you don't fight a lot of people. Mainly monsters where functioning organs are not necessarily a must have
Super Llama oooo that’s a good one actually. I’d still say storm breaker would be stronger becuase it draws form thor and vise versa. Leviathan axe isn’t directly connected to kratos. It’s just a weapon. And again, Stormbreaker gets stronger WITH thor and powers up.
We need magic? Let's talk magic then: Suppose the trick in the axe was not that thermal energy was constantly drawn out of it, but that it has an infinite heat capacity? It would be impossible to heat it up, because it would require an infinite amount of energy.
You'd still need a sufficient temperature gradient and thermal conductivity as it is what dictates the speed of the process. An ideal heat sink as Kyle put it, already has infinite heat capacity
Yeah I realised on second thought that something with an infinite heat capacity is not 'contagious', so to speak, and still only cools down (infinitely fast) that which is in direct contact with it. Too bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
while we're at it talking about magic. what if the axe could change the conductivity of objects that come into contact with the blade? so if you were to swing at a draugr, they magically become more conductive, allowing heat to leave their body more freely.
one thing i wonder, a draugr is a corpse,so wouldn't it be a little colder than a person? and it looks to be rather cold outside as well, wouldn't this affect the time/w/e? i'm not saying it'd give us what we need/want, but maybe get us slightly closer?
How would so called “Sonic Dampeners” that people and superhero’s wear on their ears to protect themselves from villains with powers over sound waves work?
Bias porpoise Hill nye the science thor😂😂 and you should definitely get a set and keep them somewhere high I only pull mine out when we got to shoot big rifles for practice because it’s when you need the hearing when the bang isn’t going off
I will say one thing about how you mentioned that axe needing typical convection, it's also entirely possible that that breath of those frost trolls have some sort natural and constant endothermic reaction. Similar to how water actually gets colder when infused with salt. Sure nothing in real life basically reaches freezing temperature off of a single chemical interact but these are creatures that constantly cover themselves in frost. Implying these giants are 'evolved' to cool down their bodies to ridiculously cold temperatures. Add in the fact you have multiple different worlds interacting with each other and something about particles from world x coming into particles from world y may cause the both of them to simply lose energy rapidly. Though I suppose the better scientific explanation would be the energy is transferred into a form no longer able to interact with electromagnetic forces.
If the draugr didn’t freeze in its environment then heating it up wouldn’t make it freeze. The Pemba effect only works because with water the hotter particles evaporate off leaving less mass to be frozen
I wish. We can only do over-the-top stuff like that when we have support from companies/brands. (*cough* $$$ *cough*) You'd be blown away by how much a video like that costs. -- KH
Kratos' axe could also just have really good thermal conduction. Then it would make the flesh-freezing faster. He could be using some sort of unknown alloy, or the axe could have some sort of time-warping technology which saps kinetic energy or freezes foes in times... i mean if you're temporally frozen, then you'd also be literally frozen since your kinetic energy would be zero.
Guglielmo lombardi stronati If we had a mirror universe where particles could create "negative movement" (or anti-cold if that makes sense) in relation to ours, the more particles moved in that universe (the hotter they are) the greater below zero they would be on the Kelvin scale in this universe. Same with heat; if we were to introduce a cold object from that universe it would be hotter than "absolute hot". Alternate universes and parallel dimensions are insane concepts and I love them.
Nappa Zappa the Kappa Tappa the Rappa what he’s saying is we can’t calculate beyond absolute zero because it’s not something the human mind can comprehend, or at least we haven’t found a value colder than absolute zero. Technically speaking, however, it wouldn’t truly be absolute zero if you can go even colder so once we go beyond 0 K, we will need another value to be known as “absolute zero” for that term means the coldest possible temperature in existence
TBH could be where the scream of a single frost giant is absolute zero so unless I'm off the temperature for that, -5,463 would freeze a draugr in 13 seconds which sounds right. Even still something like that irl would be beyond scary
Im glad you made the Mjolnir joke at the end. If there ever was a video where people are gonna abuse the joke of calling you thor. The video on the game that takes place in Norse mythology is probably gonna be one of the top places to find them.
so according to the formula Kyle showed on screen i redid the calculations on how cold the axe would have to be to freeze through the agreed amount of flesh (ignoring the fact that we cannot go below absolute zero) in a few seconds, and if we want the time to be the agreed on 5 seconds, the axe would have to reach -16472K in order to do that. And did a second one on 2 second limit, which is closer to how fast the game shows it in which case it needs -41235K. Also as a sidenote, there needs to be accounting using both cm-s and m-s in the same calculations need to be unified or it would lead to inaccuracy, luckily i adjusted for that.
BOY! Thanks for watching. This was a very fun (and complicated) episode to get done. Also, if you haven't played the game and you have a PS4, you probably should. It's fantastic. -- KH
Thermodynamics is always fun (and extremely complicated).
Because Science why doesn’t the axe blade shatter on impact? How strong would it need to be to survive these extreme temperatures?
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If you are thinking of things like someone shattering a banana dipped in liquid nitrogen you might be under a bit of a misconception. When the temperature is lowered, objects require more energy to deform, not less. So the blade would actually be harder to break or bend because the atomic binding between molecules would become stronger. You can snap a rose in half with your fingers when it is room temp but it requires a hammer to break in half when frozen.
Here's an interesting article on how those scientists can achieve sub-1-Kelvin temperatures: www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-are-temperatures-clos/
I think active cooling like they do here might be a more plausible way for the axe to work
So going on with the example of how "Cold" works by accepting kinetic energy from warm particles... Going below 0 Kl (Al be it impossible) will mean that the blade is somehow supposed to not only accept kinetic energy, but absorb more than it is usually given?
Probably doesn't make sense any way
You should do how hot are the blades of chaos
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1000 degree knife
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well he kinda did it already with "how hot is lightsaber".
Петр Волков that makes literally no sense
Kratos is basicly Sub Zero and Scorpion merged together.
Scrub Zero
And then throw in a bit of thor
The chaos blades reminded me so much of the Scorpion Spear.
@@shoopiesty805 not yet my friend.
Alexander Engholm yeah but 10000x better
When you called your Leviathan Axe to you while explaning the variables it took it 39 sec to reach you (4:30 - 5:09). Using YT's video speed control I measured that the axe moved from the right side of the screen to the left side in 1.9 sek at 1/4 speed which means that it flew by you in 0.475 sec.
To calculate the width of the section of the emotionless void that is shown in the video I used the average shoulder width of about 19in or 48.26cm and measured that your shoulders were 15cm apart on my 34.2cm screen in fullscreen mode. This means that your body from shoulder to shoulder is taking up 44.05% of the videos width and 48.26/0.4405 = 109.55cm is the range of the void that is visible. Taking my time measurement from earlier I calculated that the axe was flying through the screen at a speed of 0.475s/1.0955m = 2.306m/s.
This means that if your axe took 39 sek to reach you, assuming it flew at a relatively constant speed after take-off, it was about 90m (295ft 3.3in) away from you.
This is over three times the current world record for throwing an axe at a target. (The biggest number I could find is 27.5m or 90ft)
Congratulations to your achievement!
Greetings from Germany! ~ Luke
so is sek like seconds or what?
Aidan Ratnage oh, yeah. It is called "Sekunde" in German. Lol
You made footnotes.
Wow
raging nerd powers in here shiiiit!! nice
Because Science :
"So, how cold is it your axe again?"
Kratos :
"YES"
more like
Kratos: hmm...
More like:
Kratos: i do not know
More like
Kratos: Boy!
Nope
this is how it would play out:
Human: Excuse me.
Kratos: [*just keeps walking not even loocking directly at you just tilts his head slightly in your direction*] What do you want?
Human: I just wanted to know how cold your axe actually is.
Kratos: I dont know.
Human: But you use this Axe all the time! And your wife used it a lot too! you must at least know how cold it is? right?
Kratos: [*loocks at you directly, visibly annoyed by your question*] If you keep bothering us you find out how cold this axe is faster than you like!
Atreus: Father, how does He/She Know about Mother?
Kratos: [*Points his view just to the side were the boy is walking, then back to you after a moment*]
Human: listen man, its for sience, i have to know! i saw how this thing freezes Draugr in mere seconds!
Kratos: [*annoyed*] Are you just some person stalking people, annoying them with mindless questions?
Atreus: But how does he/she know about all that? did He/She Follow us around?
Kratos: Come Boy, we have to leave.
Human: Come on man can i at least measure the temperature, it would just take a moment.
Kratos: [*turns around staring at you obviously unhappy with your constant jabbering*] Leave, us, BE.
Human: [*you stopped asking kratos about the axe out of a healthy concern about you staying alive*]
The End
And thats how that would go.
PS: The Alternative: you keep buggin him until you get your teeth kicked in. The End.
:)
@@pratstreetboy9701 if the boy aske that jes
I love how he finds science explanations for magic objects
And I hate it 😂 that's just doesn't make sense
@@SzadoB Magic doesn't make sense.
@@edmardisla8492 mate it was 2 years ago
@@SzadoB I just watched the vid lmao
science we dont understand yet is always labelled 'magic', ofc this is fiction but I mean in general
Is this a visual resume for Kyle getting in to voice acting? Pretty impressed. #givekyleacameoontheexpanse
....Kinda. I love doing voices and have always wanted to try it professionally. Also #givekyleacameoontheexpanse -- KH
#givekyleacameoontheexpanse
#GiveKyleACameoOnTheExpanse
Merkur Finally someone who knows how to properly hashtag #GiveKyleACameoOnTheExpanse
#EveryNewWordInAHashtagIsMarkedByACapitolLetter
Nejx Hashtagging at work requires speed over capitalization 😄
how hot are the blades of chaos?🤔
Not as hot as freya XD
@@wolfxela3863
lmao 😂😂
Adventures with Cash hot enough to light a fire in hel which nothing else can light
As will smith once said” that’s hot”
@@jackyboi5668
Pretty sure because it's from a different world or it's because it's Godly Magic
I would like to point out that the Axe doesn't freeze someone solid. It encases them in ice. If it froze them solid then they would shatter into pieces when you hit them once.
In the game they unfreeze and the ice shatters off of them.
Matthew Hilliker I guess technically, they can shatter if you hit them and make them go flying towards and hit a solid surface (Wall or Rock) so in a sense, they can be cold enough to shatter but not enough with a single punch which is the point you’re trying to make obviously...
Excellent point, but how does it freeze the air around its victim? Maybe it forms an extremely cold gust as it flies towards them?
Matthew Hilliker You can actually shatter them if you kill them before they “thaw”
Matthew Hilliker you can shatter it with one punch if the health bar is very low
Matthew Hilliker this comment proves the video was around misinformation that is very informing.
Before watching the video, I'm just gonna say this.
Kratos' axe is so "cold" that it froze a freakn lightning, which is even hotter than the surface of the sun.
Edit: I believe it embodies an eternal "cold" or "frost"... Or simply, frozen flame
Sun's surface temperature is overrated... 😂
@@SentryEdits 5,778 Kelvin is “overrated”?
@@isaacyeon6334 yeah i would say people not knowing that value is the problem... many seems to think that its like a million K or some other ridiculous value..😂
Now that is both cool and epic at the same time
@@SentryEdits i mean people survive getting struck by lightning does that make humans star level
To freeze an enemy with an ace throw, you have to hold back L2 and R2. This charges up the throw and when he swings it back, the axe covers itself in loads of ice.
Maybe it just creates a layer of ice around the enemy rather than freezing their body which also explains why they don't die.
@@pasindudinusha6507yes but you can shatter frozen enemies
@@pasindudinusha6507why do you assume that freezing them solid would kill them? You’re using real world logic on a world that has magic
@@christophermoore6110 Same reason why you assume they won't die. We don't know. Even in the game, they are frozen in some places, yet they come to life when we get near. Also at the same time, frost attacks work on them. So, we can't say what works and what does not.
This is great. Now we can have a "How hot are the Blades Of Chaos?" video
But IF the axe froze the Draugr completely they wouldn't be able to come back to 'life' as soon as Kratos called the axe back. Wouldn't it be more 'realistic' if inside the axes engraving there would be some kind of outlet for supercooled Liquid Or Gas? So the impact of the Axe would release an burst of this gas and cool down the humidity around the victim so much, that it would be encased in ice (theoretically). Maybe the Dwarves Punch-markings are actually some kind of pressure pump Process which fill up a container inside the Axes Handle with a Liquid or gas they create from the frozen flames?
This also would explain why he can shoot Ice waves over the ground and encase the blade with Ice. Some real Eitri shit going on there. Ancient weaponry which actually is a huge chunk of technology.
You know its magic right?
I was just gonna say magic but yeah technology could work
Well
Excuse my Greek but
Es magic
Its just a game and magic and nothing is real
Atreus: Not as cold as his hea-
Kratos: BOY!!
How many units of BOI is the God of War game worth?
Answer: Infinity ∞ 👌
Adam Amador Marvels Infinity BOI
🅱️oi
i’ll give it 8 Bois/10 Bois
That is impossible, because, the realms have a temperature that is not infinitely cold. Rather, it has a Temperature, keeping the axe from going to an infinitely cold temperature. If it was that cold, it would FREEZE LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE.
SIMPLIFIED:
How cold is it? Very
How? Because Magic
Drinking Game: Take a shot every time you see the word "Boy" or "Boi" in the comment section.
**chugs bottle**
BOY
*B o i*
A sad, strange little man scrolled through, 1 Boi and 1 Man......Maaan Imma go back to the Stephen King drinking game!
BOIII
Have fun dyeing of alchoal posioning cause he says boy 1294 times that's a lot of shots to do
Hi all!
I discussed freezing with Kyle for a bit. The critical issue, as the video explains, is the temperature gradient. Between 0K and body temperature (37°C or 310K), there is a gradient of... 310K. As the flesh cools, the temperature gradient becomes smaller and the heat transfer (further cooling) becomes slower and slower. The best approximation is actually 273K, because that is the temperature at which water freezes and becomes ice.
Phase changes happen at constant temperature: the temperature does not change until you remove enough heat energy to change liquid water at 0°C into ice at 0°C.
Even worse, as the ice layer gets thicker, the 'L' value in the equation becomes bigger, which proportionately slows down heat transfer. Trying to cool flesh through 10cm of ice is ten times harder than through 1cm of ice.
Another problem is that heatsinks... eventually fill up. Kratos's axe might be magic and stay perfectly cold no matter what, but real world objects heat up as they absorb heat. Imagine you put two ice cubes inside a cup full of hot coffee. It will only cool down by a little bit, until the ice cubes melt. If you put four ice cubes in, you'll cool it down twice as much, and so on, until the coffee is ice-cold... that is the 'cooling capacity' of the ice cubes.
A real world axe would have a cooling capacity too. If it were made of steel, this wouldn't be much. If the axe has a volume of 0.0004m^3, then the steel would absorb at most 0.0004m^3 * 8000kg/m^2 * 500J/kg/K * 310K = 496kJ. That is barely enough to freeze 1kg of flesh.
So, coming back to Kyle's conclusion, in the best of cases, freezing a Draugr instantly is impossible, and with realistic considerations, it's even more impossible.
hey Matter Beam, do you have a Twitter I can follow?
@alex kuhn:
Yes! It is @ToughSF
Thanks! I just started Following you on Twitter cause I always enjoy the input you have!
You are welcome. I like the science by itself but it is Kyle Hill that makes it look and sounds so interesting.
Man you already became the super nerd of the week
Does anyone else think that his necklace looks like a cut?
Yourname942 I do
Yourname942 i can't unsee it now
i just noticed that
Plot twist
He's really dead
Never noticed, just saw it as a red thread... but now that I see it it's cool, cooler than the leviathan axe
Because Science *Mjolnir pops in*
Whoops. *replaces Mjolnir with axe* Science yeah.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hanif Huzairi ok
Thor: "...where's my Hammer?..."
i love that part
Looks like a spoiler now!!!
@@philosoraptor771 I understood that reference 😂
"im going to assume that even tough the draugr is a gross dead boi"
~Kyle Hill 2018
0:21 Oh my god, Kyle, are you okay? The axe is ripping through your knuckles like wolverine's claws!
Hurts every time -- KH
WarlandWriter axe claws!
Because Science your effects are better than X men origins
Great video Kyle! But I do think you made a bit of a wrong assumption...
Draugrs are dead bois right? So then why compare their body temperature to alive bois? id bet they have a lower body temperature, and I think that if you took the temperature of a corpse, you’d have a closer approximation. Corpses, due to death chill (algor mortis), lose heat at about .83 degrees Celsius (1.5 degF) each hour until they reach room temp. And, draugrs are corpses of dead dudes reanimated, right? So, depending on where the draugr came from, and how long it’s been in the place you are in, it’s body temperature would vary. SO if a draugr came from a northern area, and was chillin out in a frozen wasteland waiting to fight Kratos (kinda like how we see in the game) his/her body temp may already be below freezing!! I’d bet our frost ace could freeze them through then!
Would the fact that the corpse is reanimated and moving around increase it's temperature a bit above room temperature? Maybe not much, but I would guess that tissue on tissue friction and things like that would heat it up a bit.
Lord Baktor really good point! Only problem is I’m not sure how we’d implement that in the formula, since we don’t know how much friction/heat is being produced. Really good point though I didn’t think of that!
I believe that, even if those bois were already at 0C, the amount of heat transfer needed to bump it over from liquid 0C to solid 0C is still too much. Source: Matter Beam; see above
Perhaps, but what about the dead bois that are on fire that still get completely frozen. Then the axe would have to be even colder
ninjajake21 but they wouldn't be able to move without snapping off limbs. Kyle is right that you must assume the creature is at least above frosting temperature, which can occur at around 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Hell, the motions they make would warm them up just from friction.
If you want to get that detailed, then they wouldn't have sweat or exhalation, which means any movement would warm them up extremely fast. They dont have the biological heatsinks that nature provides living beings.
What happens if an infinity stone is in a lightsaber?🤔
Elias F Depends which infinity stone.
Time: You get a time altering lightsaber.
Power: You get a giant lightsaber.
Reality: You get a Chuthulu style tenticle monster lightsaber.
Soul: You get a soul stealing lightsaber.
Mind: You get a backtalking C3PO lightsaber with very little actual use.
: p
Shit will go down with all of the stones in Darth Vaders lightsaber
Doesn't matter how insane the lightsaber becomes. Ray will easily wield it.
@@JAlexCarney That's only 5. There are 6 infinity stones
Elias F probably a broken lightsaber
Love the vid so much, just find it amusing that he actually found a scientific explanation for something that is literally confirmed to be magic
Dutch when are we going to tahiti
@@nuridenizdurucu1249 ur goddamn right boah
4:27 Discount Thor can't call stormbreaker
Thor has Stormbreaker
Kratos has Icebreaker
Jay Enlow kratos is a guardian
from destiny
Blighted Darkness oooo beat me to it lol
Jay Enlow illuminati confirmed, dun dun dunnnnnn.
RNG zus Thor has four letters which is 4 which sounds like the Japanese word for Die which is 3 letters and a Triangle has 3 sides and Kratos which is 6 letters that's two threes which is 9 which can make 3 Illuminatis which is the number of Edges and Sides an Illuminati has which makes a Mega Illuminati because it's three Illuminatis
*MEGA ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED*
You mean, Ice Maker
Wouldn't freezing a corpse boy that fast also create an explosion like with Ice-Man? That heat has to go somewhere, right?
Since the leviathan axe seem to get cold all by itself, I'm assuming it breaks the conservation of energy and just voids heat because magic. I know, wrong show.
I think the heat would leave through the axe, that's the impression I got
Doug Rogan Rea then there'd be an explosion
My theory is the gem is supercooled and the temerature switches between thehead and gem
i wondered the same thing . Kyle said on one of his episodes it would create an explosion as energy is moving too fast .l
Should have just started the video, and went "You cant BOY... Its magic.... Magic doesnt count."
It’s called “MAGIC”
ShadowCube Crunch you damn right
ShadowCube Crunch magic is simply undiscovered science brother
Purity fbi so true
It's called "because Science" (applying science to magic is literally what this channel does)
He did say "leaving aside magic"
Neglecting the (extremely large) problem of the cold not being able to be cold enough...
When the draugr gets frozen, presumably all of that thermal energy goes directly back into the axe head instantaneously. That's a massive increase in temperature for the axe blade, but then it has to be re-cooled back down so that it can be chain-thrown repeatedly and still be able to maintain its freezing efficacy. It's very unlikely that the axe itself is providing this cooling since that would mean that it would eventually run out of whatever coolant it was using. Since Kratos is coming into contact with the weapon between throws, it can only be Kratos himself cooling the blade off by touching it. Maybe this is why Kratos bursts into flames - he absorbs so much of the heat from the Leviathan Axe that it causes him to combust!
Quick fact. If Kratos' axe absorb the heat from things that it froze and we assumed an average human body, if all the heat went into the handle, it would increase in temperature by over 3000C.
That is hot enough to melt titanium and definitely beyond the ignition point of the wood.
The wood you see is not wood, but made of Groot.
Sean Peery Magic wood! 😂
Sean Peery maybe that’s why you build the rage meter by killing shit, because all that heat is being absorbed by Kratos himself and turned into his fiery Spartan Rage. Notice that he’s never holding any weapons in his hands when the rage is active in GoW4
Well I mean it's a magic freezing axe that can magically return if thrown, it wss made by a pair of magical dwarves, it's upgraded by a magical material called frozen flame, the source of it's cold comes from some magical ice trolls, and it can magically withstand the force that Kratos can swing it at, so there's a small chance that the wood might be magical, but no guarantee
GBishop17 will nobody comment about my rage meter connection?
ahhh that's why SubZero is ... well ... sub zero
0:09 my weapon would be an umbrella
What if the axe didn't rely on the static conductivity but somehow increased that conductivity so that heat could be exchanged faster?
Kind of like how blowing on hot soup makes it cool faster.
I don't know what mechanism that might be, any ideas?
Its just magic nothing to do with science
*Insert multiple sentences that are related to change of temperature, surface area and total volume*
*Insert equation*
*Insert conclusion*
Love you, Kyle.
That's how I write scripts -- KH
Quick answer: ICE COLD!!!
Why? Because science.
(For more details watch the video)
Alright alright alright alright
Hey, what about another assumption.
Keep the axe at 0K. But assume that the axe would just turn into liquid as soon as it touches something and freeze within let's say 5 sec and was some material that doesn't absorb heat and so won't melt off by body heat ( radiations ☠) or won't allow the flesh inside to radiate heat (or probably slowed heat radiation). Then it would be correct. It didn't instantly freeze flesh but it formed a layer outside that froze, encasing them in ice, the same effect.
Another thing the bodies were dead and environment was already ice cold so the bodies were already below 0°C. So we don't really need to worry about heat radiations again melting the ice formed around them.
what if time was accelerated by the magic of the axe? (meaning the minutes necessary to freeze an opponent passed by for that opponent in an extremely accelerated rate?)
Tried to call the leviathan axe but got stormbreaker instead.
Now calculate how much energy Stormbreaker have.
Well, using the numbers Kyle used on the Stormbreaker episode, if all the energy was kept in the head from the casting process would be 200,000,000,000,000,000,000J of energy. if that was discharged as electricity in a .1 second, its wattage would be 1,318,815,734.48W.
There are two other variables you could mess with, even if making a real thing with these properties is not possible.
The first is the active surface area of the axe. We see it embed itself in the monster, so the surface area is a bit more than you used.
The second is the thermal conductivity of the axe. It is forged to be suitable for gods after all, so i don't think it is made of steel. If we made the thermal conductivity much higher than the level you used, then you can reduce the time further.
Just how strong is kratos. Topic for your next video
Niket Maheshwari Seththeprogrammer has a video on this
Solefish link please?
ruclips.net/video/rkaubkFS8GU/видео.html
He is like the hulk, the more angry he gets the stronger he gets.
He’s strong he can move a entire bridge with ease.
I am sorry but your calculation completely breaks down when you lower the temperature at near zero but you leave the same value at the constant k. At these temperatures the thermal capacities are completely different and they are not even continuous and therefore cause a completely different k. Also at these temps Bose-Einstein condensates are going to be formed so I wouldn’t go as far as to use the law of conduction, i f I were to do such a calculation myself I’d probably do the microscopical view first getting the results of atomic interactions and then use distribution functions to find the transfer of heat, but not as heat, as energy states first and the convert that to temperature. Also, I’d do that because of the lack of thermodynamic data for the materials used. If the axe was from solid helium for instance I might use some thermodynamic data as well in order to save some effort, but even for water at these temps no data exist. (I love your vids, plus I am doing a PhD in cryogenics so that why I wanted to give my input!)
It's fuckin magic that's why
Man with PHD: long answer with science backing it up
Second man: iTs fUcKiN mAGiC!
Brok and Sindri
His calc break down when he assume draugr have the same temp as human. THEY BLEED FUCKING LAVA FOR FUCK SAKE.
However you want to calculate the temperature gradient of the ax & some fleshy creature-looking thing, it's still not gonna change the overall conclusion. Absolute Zero, or 0K, is still NOT cold enough to freeze animate/inanimate objects within seconds. Atomic interactions, distribution functions, whatever, is not going to make a difference, or a significant one at that. Your values may differ, but the end result is still the same. It's just not "cool" enough, plain & simple.
What if it was, instead of drawing heat away instead forcing atoms to slow down by slowing time? Wouldnt that object or badboi seem colder to the rest of us?
Alternatively, what if it was just freezing the air and moisture around the enemy. Encasing them rather than freezing them solid.
Also this shows why Iceman is an Omega Level mutant in Marvel Universe.
Really cool idea!
What if the axe doesn't freeze, but instead just sucks up the heat into the blade. I mean this is magic were talking about, and magic is just science we cannot explain yet.
Well, that is in fact what Kyle described, heat transferring from a Creature to the Blade through the transfer of kinetic energy, effectively sucking the heat from the poor (now very frosty) boy.
Precisely -- KH
Björn Rubencûfe zip it boi
so we're going from the axe being a frosty boi to a sucky boi?
hot
Sucking up heat is what freezing is, but you raise an interesting point. We can't see the blade of the axe when it's embedded, so it could be increasing its area once it buries itself in. Sending out little cold tendrils or something.
How fast would Kratos have to swing his blades of chaos to create the fire on them? (Obviously I know he has powers but without them being in play)
UFO KingJose99 those blades can burn at will even in the cold of hel, brother
Hyenatwo 4 I would say roughly 20,000-21,500 MPH just because of how intense the fire is it’s not a corona of Fire it’s a complete blaze engulfing the blades
I'd rather know, how hot would they need to be to be spun around and still hold a constant flame? (In moves like GoW3's L1+square they spin around him really fast and seem to make more flames)
Nerds
MAORI CHIEF GAMING loser
*"They decided to replace his signature Blades of Chaos"*
Fun fact - the same heat transfer as described in 2:45 happens in ducks feet venes and that's what allows them to walk on much lower temperature surfaces without freezing and hurting them :D
the Q formulas is also kinda spelling the word KALT, which is german for cold
JayFolipurba Neat, thanks for pointing it out!
Oh dang -- KH
Kyle, wouldn't it be possible for the Leviathan axe could also generate liquid with temperatures you mentioned? The axe in game, as it impacts a target, explodes slightly on impact before the target freezes.
That seems to me it's not freezing the target, but rather coating it in a liquid the axe generates. It can also explain why when the axe hits a interactive object, gears for example, they get covered in ice quickly. So instead of the axe being super cold it's self it can make a super cold liquid, like Mai's weapon in Overwatch, explode on contact, then constantly secreting the liquid covering foe, gear, or poison generating totem in a thick layer of ice.
Could this be what's happening?
The unite of measurement for that much coldness can only be measured in "MyGF'sHeart" measurements. Those measurements measure a temperature so cold, it freezes *your soul!* Yeah, Cratos axe can freeze your soul according to these measurements!
The axe doesn't necessarily need to freeze the entire body. When you freeze an enemy in the game, sometimes they thaw themselves out on their own, which would imply their interior is still warm and the heat from the inside would move outwards in order to thaw the enemy out
i mean yea but gameplay isn't fair to assess because the game's trying to challenge you
well it's fair but it's difficult to assess gameplay
Maybe the axe activates it’s magic when it’s axe head hits the target which freezes the air around the drauger as well as internally
Kyle you better watch out Kratos is coming for you in the next game.
What if its not the flesh that's freezing?
What if its the air around the enemy that freezes?
Is there any way that's physically possible?
Also are you ever gonna tell us how do you write on that glass?????
Btw the last part was really cool
Just a thought, but if that’s what’s required to freeze near instantly, imagine the heat burst that occurs as you pull the axe back. Sure, it causes a little damage in the game & we have to ignore magic as before, but I’d imagine the heat required to insta-thaw them on axe recall would be enough to cause catastrophic conflagration in the surrounding area also, resulting in them seeming going from freezing to burning from environmental fire, not to mention setting nearby enemies ablaze.
mdavies97131 exactly what happens in game dude. Send the axe to a drauger, pull it back and the drauger exploded. Although not all of drauger.
That ice melting detail even before you were done talking about it, was a kojima like level of detail
-100K is an approximate of Kratos’ axe.
*ᛒ ᛟ ᛁ*
Marcelo Gadelha not completely relevant, but I like where your head is at.
If the temperature changed so rapidly, that means that the pressure changes rapidly, right? So wouldn't the pressure change completely destroy the draugr? Also, if it does, then the draugr would explode because of the pressure difference and the poor boy would forever be haunted by the visions of a dead corpse exploding into a million little bits right in front of him. I also saw a simmilar comment that said something about the temperature difference and explosions. Pls no hard feelings, I'm not copying your comment. You have a good point and I'm just saying that the pressure difference would do a simmilar effect.
Vedran Jakelic Thats only for gases. solids and liquids dont do that. so the air in their lungs (if indeed draugr have functioning lungs) would depressurize and they would basically take a massive breath in assuming theyre not sealed in ice. After that, their lungs might explode while they thawed or they might just make a similarly large breath out, im not sure. Might depend on the speed with which they thaw.
Just imagine having air forced inside of your lungs. Should be a painful experience...
But yeah corpses do not react like that to cold, cause our fleshy bois have a proper volume and proper shape, which in turns mean that he won't explode that easily from rapid temperature shift !
What if the axe sucks every last bit of heat from what kratos uses it on, and then transfers it to kratos to power his Spartan rage and blades of chaos
What if the axe was enchanted in a way that it basically just vacuumed up all heat of anything the axe touches? Sounds sick
One thing, isn't the drauger very warm since if you execute some of them they explode and deal fire status effect on enemies near the execution. This scientific explanation would work on the Hel-walkers but they are resistant to attacks from the leviathen axe
what if the blade isn't cold, but warm? the mpemba effect is the observation that warm water freezes much more quickly than cold water. what if the blade is heating up their bodies so that they are becoming frozen, not from the blade itself, but from their frozen environment freezing them due to the mostly water bodies of the draugr being easier to freeze?
dpbw0w but enemies freeze in muspelheim, too and it's definetly not cold there so i doubt that it could be explained that way but it's still a cool idea haha
That wouldn’t work because the blade works in Spring season like conditions. The whole game isn’t in a frosty land it covers many areas with different temperatures and the axe always instantly freezes them.
Water freezing faster when warm vs cold is specific to water, and tap water at that. Pure H2O doesn't demonstrate this effect and it is still unknown what chemical reaction causes this exactly, but it is through to have to do with the minerality of the water. Other materials do no demonstrate this effect so it would not work here.
In addition to other replies, heating something up would take just as long as cooling it down unless you intend to actually burn it, in which case, there should be charring or ignition.
How can you write on the air in your void?
He concentrates on what should appear and use the marker as a focus to do so, like writing "I am Voldemort" in Harry Potter, only in neater scripture. ;-)
But hey that’s just a theory a... game theory.
aNobody wrong channel
In my AD&D game, a wreckage of a Movian starcraft was being explored by the adventurers. One wizard was able, through magic, read a Movian research report. "We found how magical cold works. It is not the lack of heat. Magic alters the very nature of things around it. Magical cold can best be described as 'anti-heat'. It is even more so with the quasi-elemental particals known as Ash."
6:04 Turbo-tastic!
Isn't it possible for the leviathan axe to freeze the air around the draugr and thereby freezing it in place, instead of it having to freeze it's body. It should be possible since air freezes at about 58 Kelvin.
no Kelvin starts at 0 (-273 degrees)
Problem is that air is composed of a lot of gases that do not freeze at the same time (that's why you can have liquid nitrogen, oxygen etc...) and also, because air has shitty conductivity, which really wouldn't allow to freeze it instantly.
Nice try though !
Have a filter field around the ax that just let Nitrogen in. Then compress it then decompress rapidly in a cycle .
This would result in quite a cloud of smoke,in contact, but like I said, air a shitty conductivity, meaning that you culdn't accomplish that very often, also, you would have to invent such a filter field, which, in this case couldn't really be very grounded. We are trying to reconstitute the axe in real life after all, not using magical logic scream-of-troll here !
Anyway, you would also have to make the axe quite shallow in order to accomodate that much nitrogen anyway, and it still wouldn't be cold enough to freeze the air around your draugh, remember that liquid nitrogen vaporize quickly, but do not really freeze the air around it.
And also, with so much liquid in it, it would make a water bottle noise every single time that Kratos or anyone weilding it is moving the axe-head, and it's not that great to stay serious and moody.
What if the axe didn't actually freeze its targets, but instead caused something like rigor mortis and "magically" turned them frosty blue in appearance only? Maybe the axe could turn cold on command, but not to the extent of freezing someone. That "freezing" is actually a deceptive paralytic that turns all of the target's muscles rigid, and given the outward appearance freezing, the common person would assume the axe has extreme temperature-manipulating properties.
Can we realistically science this weapon into fooling the average joe into believing they can actually freeze their targets without literally freezing them in the time shown in the game? If not instantaneously, at least in the order of seconds.
So a Gen-jutsu like the tree binding one in Naruto? The enemy only thinks it's frozen/bound but is not.
Well, with an axe lodged into your head or chest and with the rest of your body paralyzed, I don't expect the target would be doing much thinking at all. But maybe we could fool the person throwing the axe (and potentially any other onlookers) into thinking his axe has instantaneous freezing capabilities.
neat!...then lets say that heat energy were somehow stored to power it's return flight?
just because it's generated doesn't mean it can't be captured and stored...right? (I"m not sure just thinking out loud here)
assuming the first part were somehow physically possible, why not use that energy to fuel a system?
it would need to be released at some point though....but how?
Now I have this funny image of Kratos saying "BOI! Math time." Which Atreous. In response. Would fall to his knees and scream "NO!" To the heavens
I like how Mjolnir naturally gravitates towards Kyle
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Draugr or Drauger?
Love your show.
Couldn't you just plug in the desired amount of time into the freezing equation and solve for the temperature instead?
I think that would result in a temperature below absolute zero, which is not a valid solution.
It would still show us how much the magic would have to cover.
Besides, we already know that we need to go below 0K. Having numbers is always better than not knowing.
Chris Wild
We could instead plug in 0 Kelvin and the desired time to find out how much the other variables need to be tweaked. We might find values which are "theoretically" feasible in reality.
Can I raise a suggestion which may bring a science like option.
The axe doesn't just cool it creates ice. So what if either it creates ice inside the enemies which harms them by stabbing and immobilizing them from the inside to cause damage or.... It takes all water inside the target and flash freezes it to zero kelvin. The cumulative effect would be devastating. Which is why you don't fight a lot of people. Mainly monsters where functioning organs are not necessarily a must have
Dude really gives me Bill Nye vibes. Bet he was one of the kids in those shows making ovens in the desert out of card board and aluminum foil.
Thor's axe stormbreaker Vs Kratos Leviathan axe
Super Llama oooo that’s a good one actually. I’d still say storm breaker would be stronger becuase it draws form thor and vise versa. Leviathan axe isn’t directly connected to kratos. It’s just a weapon. And again, Stormbreaker gets stronger WITH thor and powers up.
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Kratos is *God of War* BTW
He is connected to every weapons ever.
We need magic? Let's talk magic then:
Suppose the trick in the axe was not that thermal energy was constantly drawn out of it, but that it has an infinite heat capacity? It would be impossible to heat it up, because it would require an infinite amount of energy.
You'd still need a sufficient temperature gradient and thermal conductivity as it is what dictates the speed of the process. An ideal heat sink as Kyle put it, already has infinite heat capacity
Yeah I realised on second thought that something with an infinite heat capacity is not 'contagious', so to speak, and still only cools down (infinitely fast) that which is in direct contact with it. Too bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
while we're at it talking about magic. what if the axe could change the conductivity of objects that come into contact with the blade? so if you were to swing at a draugr, they magically become more conductive, allowing heat to leave their body more freely.
Because Magic™
one thing i wonder, a draugr is a corpse,so wouldn't it be a little colder than a person? and it looks to be rather cold outside as well, wouldn't this affect the time/w/e? i'm not saying it'd give us what we need/want, but maybe get us slightly closer?
How would so called “Sonic Dampeners” that people and superhero’s wear on their ears to protect themselves from villains with powers over sound waves work?
Thank you I was still curios btw!
Bias porpoise ok one thing that was kinda bugging me was do you have to have protection against your own cancelling sound?
Bias porpoise I did it was fr and yeah I infact own a pair of those headsets
Bias porpoise Hill nye the science thor😂😂 and you should definitely get a set and keep them somewhere high I only pull mine out when we got to shoot big rifles for practice because it’s when you need the hearing when the bang isn’t going off
This man might be making an entire essay about this but really we all know that it’s Dwarf magic that makes it so cold.
I will say one thing about how you mentioned that axe needing typical convection, it's also entirely possible that that breath of those frost trolls have some sort natural and constant endothermic reaction. Similar to how water actually gets colder when infused with salt. Sure nothing in real life basically reaches freezing temperature off of a single chemical interact but these are creatures that constantly cover themselves in frost. Implying these giants are 'evolved' to cool down their bodies to ridiculously cold temperatures. Add in the fact you have multiple different worlds interacting with each other and something about particles from world x coming into particles from world y may cause the both of them to simply lose energy rapidly. Though I suppose the better scientific explanation would be the energy is transferred into a form no longer able to interact with electromagnetic forces.
Awesome vid I love your videos they are not only awesome but cool have an ice day
Will you do a prop of kratos axe like the monster hunter episode.
If the draugr didn’t freeze in its environment then heating it up wouldn’t make it freeze. The Pemba effect only works because with water the hotter particles evaporate off leaving less mass to be frozen
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i know rite lol
I wish. We can only do over-the-top stuff like that when we have support from companies/brands. (*cough* $$$ *cough*) You'd be blown away by how much a video like that costs. -- KH
Well your wallet would be ice if you keep this kind content up
What if the axehead wasnt made of metal than cant we just say that its made of some kind of metal with a very high heat conductivity
The heat conductivity of the axehead is not the problem. It's the heat conductivity of draugr flesh that's slowing things down.
you are right i forgot about that tnx
Kratos' axe could also just have really good thermal conduction. Then it would make the flesh-freezing faster. He could be using some sort of unknown alloy, or the axe could have some sort of time-warping technology which saps kinetic energy or freezes foes in times... i mean if you're temporally frozen, then you'd also be literally frozen since your kinetic energy would be zero.
James Earl Jones voice...."ICE ICE BABY....TO COLD TOO COLD!"
Why not reverse the formula and put 5 as t?
minus 7 672 C :D
i thought about exactly the same, but i guess episode would be much shorter with the answer right away xD
I don’t think we can go below absolute zero.
Guglielmo lombardi stronati
If we had a mirror universe where particles could create "negative movement" (or anti-cold if that makes sense) in relation to ours, the more particles moved in that universe (the hotter they are) the greater below zero they would be on the Kelvin scale in this universe. Same with heat; if we were to introduce a cold object from that universe it would be hotter than "absolute hot".
Alternate universes and parallel dimensions are insane concepts and I love them.
Nappa Zappa the Kappa Tappa the Rappa what he’s saying is we can’t calculate beyond absolute zero because it’s not something the human mind can comprehend, or at least we haven’t found a value colder than absolute zero. Technically speaking, however, it wouldn’t truly be absolute zero if you can go even colder so once we go beyond 0 K, we will need another value to be known as “absolute zero” for that term means the coldest possible temperature in existence
*BOI*
I started to love physics because of you!
10q!
I’ve seen a few videos of yours over the years and I found this 5 year old video today and it’s by far the funniest one you’ve made
It's interesting seeing science being applied to a game where you fight gods over different worlds
I loved the "And actual gods."
Dang I’m actually early to one of these videos.
Same
Meanwhile I'm 2 hours too late. Sad bois
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TBH could be where the scream of a single frost giant is absolute zero so unless I'm off the temperature for that, -5,463 would freeze a draugr in 13 seconds which sounds right. Even still something like that irl would be beyond scary
Im glad you made the Mjolnir joke at the end. If there ever was a video where people are gonna abuse the joke of calling you thor. The video on the game that takes place in Norse mythology is probably gonna be one of the top places to find them.
So... Your channel abbreviates to BS.
I am scarred.
Still gonna watch tho
Sometimes the answer is just MAGIC
so according to the formula Kyle showed on screen i redid the calculations on how cold the axe would have to be to freeze through the agreed amount of flesh (ignoring the fact that we cannot go below absolute zero) in a few seconds, and if we want the time to be the agreed on 5 seconds, the axe would have to reach -16472K in order to do that. And did a second one on 2 second limit, which is closer to how fast the game shows it in which case it needs -41235K.
Also as a sidenote, there needs to be accounting using both cm-s and m-s in the same calculations need to be unified or it would lead to inaccuracy, luckily i adjusted for that.