Unorthodox doesn't mean that you're bad. Don't say I'm disrespecting bowlers in this video. I love the sport of bowling and learning more about it. It's fine if you disagree with me but flat out saying that I'm disrespecting bowlers is not what I'm doing.
people should definitely know the meaning of unorthodox. most of these bowlers ended up being really good so absolutely no sign of disrespect in this video.
I always find this story pretty fascinating. When Amleto Monacelli was new to the Tour, he was told to fix his swing or he wasn’t going to do anything. Well, 20 PBA and 10 PBA50 titles and 58 300 games later with a HOF induction, guess he knew what he was doing.
Just goes to show how much bowling is about consistency. The “correct” technique is objectively the easiest/simplest way to develop consistency, which is why it’s regarded as “correct”, but anything is viable as long as you can maintain your mental, physical and analytical consistency in whatever style you bowl.
This kinda video is so cool to watch, its fun to see all the different styles! Just like everyone pitches slightly different in baseball, everyone finds a different bowling approach that works for them
As soon as I saw this video title, I wondered if Bobby Campagnale would be in it. He is a great bowler. I bowled against him when he has subbed for a team in our league. He told us his technique is due to him having one leg shorter than the other. To me that makes his skill all the more to admire.
Great clips. Hadn't seen some of these guys before. Well done! Great job including Mike Luchstein. He's from my area, and everyone marvels at how successful he is on the lanes.
jeffs approach is definitely a bit weird but he can flat out bowl, watched him casually throw 300 at thunderbowl, may not look like much but he’s definitely a force to be reckoned with
U could say that a lot of them just got different stances, amounts of steps and arm swing but damn is it intriguing just seeing some of these people with some of the most weirdest styles and technique I’ve ever seen in my life and yet it just works for them so well that it’s just hard to argue that they need to switch it up
When I was a kid, my family would go bowling almost every week. I'm right-handed, and always slid on my right foot. I was 15 years old and averaging over 170/game (my highs score was 267) when i learned that sliding on the same side as shoot wasn't considered "normal".
Their bowling (no matter what style) is amazing! I'm a thumb-less (one handed) bowler with a three step approach and somehow I feel more comfortable hitting the pocket that way. Long as you make all the pins fly in one shot, that's all that matters to me. Great video!
Rudy Revs!!!! A lot of these guys end up in a very similar spot when they hit the foul line and the ball is on its way. This video has a few more unique styles but the truth is everybody has a unique delivery. We learned to love the style of Barnes, Jones, Rash, Weber in the 90s / 2000s. Nowadays, in the 2020s, among two handed deliveries, styles are unique.
imo he has an unusual release - a combination of spinning the ball and rotating it more conventionally. It looks like it wouldn't work for a lot of reasons but he can carve the lane up really well, even from deep inside, and keep his carry. It was great to see him win a major.
7:05 - yeah I know that explosive anger you can feel whenever that **insert inhuman assaulting word of your choice here** 10 pin stands and you're doing all you can to avoid a genocide in your bowling ally.
I feel like my swing is a lesser Novak arm path, where I've seen video of myself pushing it out right, then coming behind my head, but then getting my arm back in. Helps me open up, but I can get very tuggy if I lose my mechanics
@@robertcampagnale1927 thats pretty much exactly how I shoot at my 6 and 10 pins😂 I've had bowling centers threaten to kick me out when I was younger, said I was "tearing up the lanes" and there's "no need to throw it so hard" . I've toned it down a bit now that I'm in my mid 40's. I only loft it to the arrows instead of the hash marks😂
Not even going to touch on the pwba, but need another remake with barnes, ,neumann, hannahs,learn, bowker, mcneely, and a dozen or so other guys from wtc.
"Hookin" Bob Handley probably doesn't look all that impressive to young people today but back in the 70s/early 80s, that was a lot of room to cover on the lanes.
probably because 90% of one-handed bowlers have high backswings (myself included), but I agree, it was unusual for sure when he first appeared in the PBA.
I see different bowling styles but everybody basically leans forward kicking the right leg back I guess I'm the only one in the world that rears back on to both legs instead of leaning forward wish I could see somebody else that does that
my ball hooks right but i’m a right handed bowler, I’ve been told it will ruin my wrist but there hasn’t been any issues with my wrist so far, I don’t know what my style would be considered.
As long as it doesn’t hurt while you’re bowling or perhaps sometime after bowling it’s not likely to damage your wrist. At least not any more than curving it the other way, throwing a large heavy ball with one hand. If you’re comfortable throwing that way you should play the lane like a lefty, trying to hit the 1-2 pocket instead of the 1-3
The bowler whose style is closest to how I bowl... Robert Charlebois. True, I know he's left handed... but he's the closest to how I bowl, well sort of.
Carter was an exception even in his own time. no one else bowled like him. In fact, I have a "how to" bowling book to teach how to bowl like Carter as if his style was *supposed* to become the standard style. Never came to be. The only other bent arm bowler who made much of a splash was Earl Anthony, and even his style was closer to standard than Carter.
Kudos to Belmonte and the pioneers of two-handed bowling. But some of these guys are just lazy asses who never had a coach teach them the proper way to bowl. Sure, 1-2 two-handlers on the tour is fine. But this handful of two-handers and their horrible form? Trash. And someone please teach Matt Jones how to bowl. I remember being 15 and bowling like him. Just like that. Then I said to myself I’m going to learn the right way.
Hey Nick. You should look up stats and get your facts straight before typing your non sense. Matt Jones is actually really good and I'm not just talking about on "China" as for myself I've had a good or day or 2 in my life. Goal is to knock over 10 pins, last time that I checked.
Lazy????? I couldn't hook the ball enough to open up a lane on some conditions. It took a LOT of hard work to teach myself to bowl with my thumb out. This was in the mid 90s so there were very few people doing it. I was going to Columbus O and bowling a lot of scratch tourneys where I could hold my own. I bowled both ways depending on the conditions. By the way, what "right way" did you learn?
nothing wrong with the way they bowl, just because its not the way you bowl or the way you were taught doesn't mean its not a good way to bowl. They do what works for them, thats part of bowling finding what works for you. Not everyone is going to bowl the same way some people learn different ways. dont judge them on how they bowl because of how they approach the line, judge them on what happens after the ball leaves their hand and reaches the pins.
Unorthodox doesn't mean that you're bad. Don't say I'm disrespecting bowlers in this video. I love the sport of bowling and learning more about it. It's fine if you disagree with me but flat out saying that I'm disrespecting bowlers is not what I'm doing.
I agree with this. I’d say it’s creative. If the style works, it works. No reason to change it then.
people should definitely know the meaning of unorthodox. most of these bowlers ended up being really good so absolutely no sign of disrespect in this video.
I always find this story pretty fascinating. When Amleto Monacelli was new to the Tour, he was told to fix his swing or he wasn’t going to do anything. Well, 20 PBA and 10 PBA50 titles and 58 300 games later with a HOF induction, guess he knew what he was doing.
All of Belmo’s coaches said he wouldn’t amount to anything throwing with 2 hands.
@@thetrain3302 And look where he is now. Currently the greatest bowler in the world (right now).
Just goes to show how much bowling is about consistency. The “correct” technique is objectively the easiest/simplest way to develop consistency, which is why it’s regarded as “correct”, but anything is viable as long as you can maintain your mental, physical and analytical consistency in whatever style you bowl.
This kinda video is so cool to watch, its fun to see all the different styles! Just like everyone pitches slightly different in baseball, everyone finds a different bowling approach that works for them
As soon as I saw this video title, I wondered if Bobby Campagnale would be in it. He is a great bowler. I bowled against him when he has subbed for a team in our league. He told us his technique is due to him having one leg shorter than the other. To me that makes his skill all the more to admire.
Thanks! Disability? I told you that? Hmm i don't recall that one.
@@robertcampagnale1927 poor word choice! It was second hand (Kirk L).
Glad you included some of the ladies from the P League. I used to watch their shows here on RUclips... until the copyright stuff started. :(
13:09 the suspense on her rolls. She's like a bowling assassin lol.
Great clips. Hadn't seen some of these guys before. Well done! Great job including Mike Luchstein. He's from my area, and everyone marvels at how successful he is on the lanes.
jeffs approach is definitely a bit weird but he can flat out bowl, watched him casually throw 300 at thunderbowl, may not look like much but he’s definitely a force to be reckoned with
U could say that a lot of them just got different stances, amounts of steps and arm swing but damn is it intriguing just seeing some of these people with some of the most weirdest styles and technique I’ve ever seen in my life and yet it just works for them so well that it’s just hard to argue that they need to switch it up
When I was a kid, my family would go bowling almost every week. I'm right-handed, and always slid on my right foot. I was 15 years old and averaging over 170/game (my highs score was 267) when i learned that sliding on the same side as shoot wasn't considered "normal".
Ever see someone slam a bowling ball into their ankle?
@@billrobertson5895 I have, multiple times looks painful
It’s amazing see bowling styles we haven’t seen before
I can't pinpoint why, but I really like the way Steve Kloempken throws the ball. I could watch him bowl all day
I probably shouldn't have but I had that feeling like should I put him in or not
Their bowling (no matter what style) is amazing! I'm a thumb-less (one handed) bowler with a three step approach and somehow I feel more comfortable hitting the pocket that way. Long as you make all the pins fly in one shot, that's all that matters to me. Great video!
I approach like Garber! Never heard of him until now! Awesome!
Rudy Revs!!!!
A lot of these guys end up in a very similar spot when they hit the foul line and the ball is on its way. This video has a few more unique styles but the truth is everybody has a unique delivery. We learned to love the style of Barnes, Jones, Rash, Weber in the 90s / 2000s. Nowadays, in the 2020s, among two handed deliveries, styles are unique.
Im glad ur back since a couple of weeks
Why is Thomas Larsen in this? He throws the ball so good and has a very simple game
It probably has something to do with the hyper mobility in his elbow. But I agree I don’t think his swing is very unorthodox.
imo he has an unusual release - a combination of spinning the ball and rotating it more conventionally. It looks like it wouldn't work for a lot of reasons but he can carve the lane up really well, even from deep inside, and keep his carry. It was great to see him win a major.
Babe wake up jh223 posted
I’m going to hell for laughing at 7:00
The style of Bobby Campagnale is so hilarious!
it is from a disability. One leg shorter than the other.
@@hitdrumhard Really? Ok I didn’t saw that. Than it’s even more hilarious, that I can play bowling like that!
7:05 - yeah I know that explosive anger you can feel whenever that **insert inhuman assaulting word of your choice here** 10 pin stands and you're doing all you can to avoid a genocide in your bowling ally.
Don Carter has already beaten off.....😆
I work at daffodil bowl in Puyallup and 6:35 is at Daffodil!!!!
I feel like my swing is a lesser Novak arm path, where I've seen video of myself pushing it out right, then coming behind my head, but then getting my arm back in. Helps me open up, but I can get very tuggy if I lose my mechanics
This is a video you can watch over and over.
7:02 good lord
I wonder how many times he's chucked it onto the other lane trying to make a 10-pin lol
That one freaked me out. Thought he was going to break a bunch of hand bones.
All that speed and no bounce. Smh!
@@robertcampagnale1927 thats pretty much exactly how I shoot at my 6 and 10 pins😂 I've had bowling centers threaten to kick me out when I was younger, said I was "tearing up the lanes" and there's "no need to throw it so hard" . I've toned it down a bit now that I'm in my mid 40's. I only loft it to the arrows instead of the hash marks😂
Omg the second person in the blue bowls like me, I've never seen someone that also bowls like myself.
Ohhh I'm famous yet again! LOL 😂
😂
I would have liked to see Bob Vespi included!
And John Gant!!!
Not even going to touch on the pwba, but need another remake with barnes, ,neumann, hannahs,learn, bowker, mcneely, and a dozen or so other guys from wtc.
You missed Bobby Jacks and Greg Thomas. They both made me cringe but both are/were great bowlers!
Hey u cut the Kloempken part why?
Bowled with Steve Kloempken over 30 years ago. Both us were teens back then.
Nothing 'unorthodox' about Steve, either. I wish I could emulate his style. :)
We have a guy average 230 here in town with a unique approach goes by the name Chuck Rankin
I currently average around 200 throwing left handed up the right side of the lane and finishing on my opposite foot.
If it works, *it works.* 😂
Is scott devers still played bowling or he’s retired?
Holy moly!
I personally kinda had a unorthodox style in bowling I raise my hands to my head I'm a two hander by the way extremely weird in real life
This comment brought me joy
My arms look like a damn viper
That's why i livr the viper pattern
Shot I wrong foot been likes this for 28 years now
Why
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🤷🏻♂️ it’s works I got 2-300 and I avg 216 on ths
"Hookin" Bob Handley probably doesn't look all that impressive to young people today but back in the 70s/early 80s, that was a lot of room to cover on the lanes.
As a kid, he was my guy. Stalking the line, and just cutting it loose with mad torque. He either won, or shot 150...lol.
Ron Williams style reminds of Brandon Novak.
Richard Bramwell is another Pro Bowler that has an unusual style.
Was expecting to see Wayne Webb with his one armed ball at his side start on the list
Just a curious question...Why didn't you include Mark Roth?
probably because 90% of one-handed bowlers have high backswings (myself included), but I agree, it was unusual for sure when he first appeared in the PBA.
"I am not making this up" soooooo someone taught the dude to bowl like that? XD
Ron Williams used to be my favorite.
Used to be?
I understand some of these thrown were unorthodox but...many to me looked like a pretty normal throw despite an alternate approach...
Hate to ask but...could you break down each clip you showed despite the obvious one's and say what was unconventional about the shots???
U forgot Tom smallwood
How old is Ron Williams now?
How is Thomas Larsen unorthodox?? Most of these bowlers have unique positions but classic fundamental styles
That’s what I was wondering
Agree, as classic as it gets
Novak’s throw looks like steve hoskins
7:24 What'd he do?
I see different bowling styles but everybody basically leans forward kicking the right leg back I guess I'm the only one in the world that rears back on to both legs instead of leaning forward wish I could see somebody else that does that
I get it. it if it works it works but man, a couple of these techniques are fucking out there.
"there's no wrong way to bowl"
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"There's apparently like 6 wrong ways to bowl"
Is kasimakis still played bowling or he’s retired?
Runs an auction house down in Mississippi.
@@madmanman1 Wait really why?
Handley and Monacelli were just normal bowling styles, Handley was simply a cranker
is it just me or does ron williams look like that actor from dhar mann?
8:50 RIP Carey Bock, gone too early.
Amleto Monacelli isn't really unorthoxdox but I can see why someone would say that
my ball hooks right but i’m a right handed bowler, I’ve been told it will ruin my wrist but there hasn’t been any issues with my wrist so far, I don’t know what my style would be considered.
Back-up bowling
I heard a second-hand story of someone breaking a wrist doing backup bowling style. (no pun intended hah) It might be BS.
@@hitdrumhard Hopefully I don’t, I feel natural with my style but I also don’t want to get injured lol
As long as it doesn’t hurt while you’re bowling or perhaps sometime after bowling it’s not likely to damage your wrist. At least not any more than curving it the other way, throwing a large heavy ball with one hand. If you’re comfortable throwing that way you should play the lane like a lefty, trying to hit the 1-2 pocket instead of the 1-3
@@janderson8401 👍
Backwards man, the backwards man, I bowl backwards fast as you can
1:09 Matt Jones looking like he has a seizure halfway through every approach. LOL. wtf is that??
The bowler whose style is closest to how I bowl... Robert Charlebois. True, I know he's left handed... but he's the closest to how I bowl, well sort of.
The only thing Robert Charlebois has that I don’t have is consistency… my bowling is rather sporadically inconsistent.
Butters started winning and got that double cheeseburger money
I'm guessing everyone that throws with one hand and uses 3 holes is unorthodox nowadays.
Why is Larson in this????
It was great until Larson. Because he's what a 70s style smooth stroker?
Should’ve included Connor Pickford if you’re gonna include Anthony Lavery-Spahr!
Missed soooo many. Not counting all the two handed players. What about TD?
And if you notice most of these idiots didn’t last long in the PBA or didn’t win any titles
Whats unorthodox about Martin Larsen?
Don Carter? His style was TEXTBOOK in the 50's, early 60's.
Do some homework.
Carter was an exception even in his own time. no one else bowled like him. In fact, I have a "how to" bowling book to teach how to bowl like Carter as if his style was *supposed* to become the standard style. Never came to be. The only other bent arm bowler who made much of a splash was Earl Anthony, and even his style was closer to standard than Carter.
Kudos to Belmonte and the pioneers of two-handed bowling. But some of these guys are just lazy asses who never had a coach teach them the proper way to bowl. Sure, 1-2 two-handlers on the tour is fine. But this handful of two-handers and their horrible form? Trash. And someone please teach Matt Jones how to bowl. I remember being 15 and bowling like him. Just like that. Then I said to myself I’m going to learn the right way.
Hey Nick. You should look up stats and get your facts straight before typing your non sense. Matt Jones is actually really good and I'm not just talking about on "China" as for myself I've had a good or day or 2 in my life. Goal is to knock over 10 pins, last time that I checked.
Lazy????? I couldn't hook the ball enough to open up a lane on some conditions. It took a LOT of hard work to teach myself to bowl with my thumb out. This was in the mid 90s so there were very few people doing it. I was going to Columbus O and bowling a lot of scratch tourneys where I could hold my own. I bowled both ways depending on the conditions.
By the way, what "right way" did you learn?
Wow, Nick: jealous much? Read Belmo's story-he learned both ways.
seeing this garbage , makes me want to NEVER pick up a bowling ball again.....
Please don’t
nothing wrong with the way they bowl, just because its not the way you bowl or the way you were taught doesn't mean its not a good way to bowl. They do what works for them, thats part of bowling finding what works for you. Not everyone is going to bowl the same way some people learn different ways. dont judge them on how they bowl because of how they approach the line, judge them on what happens after the ball leaves their hand and reaches the pins.
'Bye, SuperT!
@@pamelacass9642 bye bit ch
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