How Jimmy Butler's Injury and Miami Heat's Loss to 76ers Could End the Season | Miami Heat Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- The Miami Heat lost to the Philadelphia 76ers setting up a win-or-go-home final play-in game on Friday night. But what if Jimmy Butler is too hurt to play? Is the Heat's season over? Who is to blame, beyond injuries, for Miami's loss on Wednesday?
Wes Goldberg and David Ramil break down the loss and what comes next.
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Jovic was on fire and he could have locked up Batum. I dont know why coach sat him so much after the 1st quarter. We need more Jovic minutes
I said the same thing. It’s crazy lol
Agreed. I've been saying that for the entire season. Jovic played the least minutes (14) of any player last night. I put that loss on Spo as much as on anybody else.
his defense was a liabilty
@@Tommyitalianlife Disagree. Jovic played very solid (not spectacular) defense. If the defense is the priority then why did Tyler Herro play more minutes (41) than anyone else??
If jimmy gone it’s over. Don’t tell me Bam or Tyler or anybody else is going take Jimmy’s place. For everybody who questioned Jimmy’s value to this Miami team ya gon learn today.
What value lol
@@slickbro256 what value? You must be dumb enough to believe Miami is going back to the finals with or without Jimmy or Heat culture is what got Miami to the conf finals 3x in 4 yrs.
Exactly lol. We go to every home game and we boo the crap out of bam. Dude is as over rated as can be. Personally not even a true starter defensive “centers” don’t start in the day and age anymore. Bam is no Rudy
@@slickbro256do you not go to or watch any games ? Butler is the team
@@GetBigOrDieTrying-yt9cp He prob one of those that think Heat culture got Miami to the conference finals 3 outta the last 4 years. Or one of those idiots who think we should run the offense thru Bam. Lol
Wes, you’re a Tyler apologist and I’ve always been neutral on Tyler, but this game was a horrible game for Tyler. He was 4/20 at one point. He was extremely inefficient, the Batum put-back was supposed to be a Tyler box-out and the costly turn over with a minute to go. Tyler had 5 turn overs in this game. 33% from the field 5 turn overs and hogging the ball the entire time. This game was lost by Spo’s bad rotation in the second half, Tyler’s bad decision, Caleb giving the 76ers the momentum in the 3rd, and Jimmy’s injury.
Why is Tyler being singled out?? Who played well outside of Jaquez??
Yep he was 9 for 27 shots Horrible!!
I'd attribute it to two key fluke plays. Jaime driving in the open court, just loses the handle for a turnover. Then Herro's backcourt violation on the handoff. The Heat was up in each instance. Philly scored 5 points on those plays. That's in a 1 point game.
Fkcn Nailed it. and yes its gross at this point listening to Wes make excuses YET AGAIN
Tyler had a bad shooting night but not scared to at least take the shots like bam!
Die hard Heat fan day 1 and lets be real if Jimmy isn't playing in which he's not this season is over because i dont trust Bam, Herro, JJJ to win on Friday and just keeping it 100, might be time to blow this team up to help Jimmy next season starting with Herro in my opinion #LetsGoHeat
Fact herro is trash
Baffling to me why Jimmy was playing in the fourth quarter with a bum knee! Spo decision making in question
This might have hurt his even further.
That loss hurts like hell
I'm so sick of the Tyler Herro excuses. "SoMeBoDy HaS tO TaKe tHoSe sHoTs". Hell I can take 30 shots and shoot 30%, so what? Herro is supposed to be part of the "core" and hes always inefficient.
The Miami Heat played this season like a college student procrastinating and studying for a final exam that is tomorrow, and they’re trying to cram all the information into their brain before the test, when the professor gave them study material 2-3 months before the exam even started.
And now the student(team) is surprised that they failed the exam? U had all season to get your shit together!
Jimmy needs help bruh,, he's been carrying the heat since he got here.. get a real center, tyler should have been gone
Probably should sign another shooter before your first round playoff series in Cancun Mexico
They shouldn't even have been in the play-in. Miami's overcoasting may have cost them the season.
That’s what happened when you F off all season. The east is a total scrub division. The fact they we’re battling it out in the participation trophy play in toilet bowl is just pathetic
Nikola needed to play more
Spo is too stubborn to let the young guy play.
Makes no sense you in the play in pay the man
@@mattjg74 he can create offense and Highsmith can’t. Scoring wins games now a days not defense. It’s a scoring league
Our backups played better than our starters. That should never happen!!!
@@JohnBurgundy and then we wonder why every possession on offense is a last second shot
I think we are expecting something of Bam that he isn't he will never be a guy you run your offense thru never has been always been a tough defensive player and even tho his offense has improved he is Not a Star we wait for him to step up never happens he's just not a true STAR he's a unselfish team guy that plays the right way but never a guy that's gona takeover and impose his will on a game
He's def no Zo.
This hurts because Bam is one of my favorites players on this team… But you can’t turn a Beta into an Alpha. He doesn’t have it and never will (on offense), I’m coming to terms with it.
Exactly...and the same goes for Tyler Herro. He should not be the primary scoring option on this team.
@@codeen66 Time to let Terry play free and be Terry with Jimmy out play thru Rozier and let him cook offensively he can Dominate
@floridaboy5606 he's hurt
Ultimately, I blame Spo of course. He has a short leash for Jovic who can generate some offense n push the pace. Guys was scared to go coast to coast on fast breaks n the only guy who can do that only plays 14 mins?
I’m glad we saw our biggest flaw on full display last night. No size, no lead guard, and injuries has killed the heat killed us since Jimmy been here. Bam is a 4th scoring option and defensive anchor at best. He’s not a bucket getter when you need him to be. Tyler takes too many bad shots and can get sloppy with the ball against better defense.
Naw injuries are the only thing that kept us from improving with a new roster
You can never blame jimmy, tyler is a bum, and bam is not, is not a center
Tyler was terrible. Hopefully Friday will be the end of this season. The Heat don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. Spare Heat fans the torture of watching 4 straight 30 point losses against Boston.
Not even about Boston, they have 0 chance to win title this year without Jimmy. Not even worth progressing or going 7 games.
Wes get off jimmy nuts,, jimmy has done way more than expected.. it's everybody else that never shows up so stop the bs
As a Bulls fan I can say the Heat are capable of winning tomorrow without Jimmy and Rozier. I wouldn't expect it or take it for granted, 'tho. Bulls aren't the Hawks and proved that last night and have all season. They've also put together a string of good games lately. But I know the Bulls well and they know how to lose games as well as win 'em. So...let the better team win come Friday. If better just for that day. That said should the Heat win? If Butler is gone for the playoffs its a last hurrah most likely. As a Bulls fan I respect the Heat. Been a secondary fan and follower since Riley arrived. Really love what the team does and come playoff time its always fun when they get in healthy. Love to see 'em win. Who can forget last post season? I know I haven't. Amazing stuff, for the ages. Should my Bulls win or lose at least its against a team that has no quit in them. Pretty good deal, couldn't ask for more.
Right on. Much love and respect, and good luck to y’all Bulls tomorrow!
I know we have a issue with Tyler. But im more scare with Bam and Jimmy. We cant win a Ring with a Part Time and Old Star, and in my opinion Bam cant carrie any team. Bam is our only real Asset is the player to trade and build around youth players. I Know nobody wants to talk about it.
😮 y’all find every excuse for Tyler
Why can’t Jimmy play this way in the regular season tho? If he played more like this we wouldn’t even be in the play in to begin with. It’s not like he’s going hella extra hard in the playoffs he simply just takes more shots. I was watching him take multiple step back and pull up jumpers today and i’m like bro if u played this aggressive in the regular season we’d be the 3rd or 4th seed.
His body won’t hold up for that long he knows that that’s why he doesn’t play as hard in the regular season.
@@HoopsMegaCentral All he has to do is take a couple more shots a game and shoot some jumpers cuz during the regular season all he does is finish and cut to the basket idk why. I understand those are his strengths but cmon man u know u can play at least a bit better in the regular season to get a higher seed
@@saewhat6034 Yea I hear what you’re saying but it’s pretty obvious his body won’t hold up especially due to his age.
@@HoopsMegaCentral Yea i get that part he is 34 and has bad knees like dam dude his knees always look like they’re on life support it doesn’t even look like he puts all his weight on his legs when he takes a step it’s weird
@@saewhat6034 Yea facts.
This loss is on Spo. His rotation of the players once again was a disaster. Why did Jovic get 14 minutes? He was 2-2 with 5 rebounds in 14 minutes and played good defense. You got Martin playing reckless and Herro thinking he Kobe Bryant where I will shot until my shot starts to drop and is extremely horrible defense. Why isn't Herro held accountable for his pathetic defense?? There has to be serious regret of giving him that extension. We haven't even thought about his lack of creativity on the office Three players in the corner and two at the top of the key. What the hell is that ?? Simply pathetic
What about Bam's offensive game?
Miami's style of play burns these players. They use these role players and get the most out of them, when push comes to shove they are already worn out and full of injuries. Playing with only one star “Jimmy” they will not reach the final goal “Championship”. Management should invest in a superstar and a star along with role players... to have better results... but they are surely not going to do it. They wasted Jimmy B's prime.
Couldn’t have said it any better I don’t think of Bam or Herro as true all star players imo.
They don't have the assets to trade for a star. They tried to get a big time scorer 4x
Sixers fan, appreciate you Wes for not making excuses like your guy David
Not trying to be a prisoner of the moment, but this loss hurt more than game 5 of nba finals last year
Hopefully it stings for a while
@@anthonyuccello8450sadist
Sucks that Jimmy is hurt. Was looking forward to a good series with the Celtics. Beating the a Heat without him won’t be the same.
I'm so bummed that Jimmy is hurt. As a C's fan I was looking forward to a rematch, a revenge game for the Celtics. Won't be the same without real Heat competition.
Play in shouldn’t exist. It’s woke participation trophy crap. Heat need to get their shit together and make some serious changes. Why didn’t they trade for Porzingis when they had the chance. Instead they let him go to Boston.
@@user-kt7vs4qs8c Where were you January 6th???!!!
See you guys next season, I love you all and I love this channel. Been a fan since 03, sometimes it is what it is.
Wes "Tyler needed to take those 27 shots because nobody else wanted to shoot"
Wes 10mins later "Would've like to see them force the ball to Bam more"
Didnt he just say Tyler needed to.... nevermind smh.
Wes going to cry when Herro gets traded this summer.
I love Bam as a 4th scoring option and maybe 3rd, with that said, Bam doesn't have any post moves, he easy to defend
I like Tyler and can’t wait for him to be traded. He needs a new start away from all the haters. He did not have a good game. I bet no one here that played ball ever had a bad game smh.
We miss Rozier we have him were up 20 instead of 12 in those moments we couldn't really separate more than 12-14 pt lead
Probably should've taken the reg season more seriously, huh?
For all the idiots, who questioned Jimmy and his value come post season ya gon learn today.
Basketball Gods don’t like when you disrespect the regular season.
This loss hurts so much man seeing Jimmy get hurt this is very hurting man I love this team but we need to make big changes next season
A wise man once said that “when people don’t like you they give you basket 🧺 to carry water 💦. This is the Miami Heat fans attitude towards Tyler Herro.
This was unacceptable loss. Time for changes! Spos coaching horrible!!
yeah right? He's squandering all the talent on this team
I mean what else you want Spo to do? Go out there and play to? It’s obvious this is not a winning team
@@slickbro256 Now we have Jimmy Butt head and boy wonder throwing punches on the team bus. The big three is officially over!
I don’t understand Bam! I know you got the two fouls early, but if you are supposed to be a All-Star and going to the Olympics and you see Jimmy Butler giving his all and limping out there how do you not take over?
Bam is overrated tbh Miami fans just hype him up to be some sorta upcoming superstar player. He’s just good player with good athleticism & good defensive instincts.
Plays soft on offense
@@HoopsMegaCentral 20 and 10 in the nba ain't easy if it was every big would do it its actually on miami he to unselfish he can score 2o plus every game buy he let's every one else take a million shots and just sits back
@@TherantguyyeazyBam gets those stats against most teams in the east plus Jimmy doesn’t take the regular season to seriously he differs to Bam & Herro and let them play their game.
@@HoopsMegaCentral as I said he out played AD ,Wemby, Zion, Sabonis ,he plays good va good bigs I watch its just his personality is he doesn't care to take 15 to 20 shots a game idk why he has the talent to score trust me
Bro just said it. We suck right now. Spo cost us the game.
We definitely needed terry out there
Tyler took a bunch of crazy shots
I am glad you guys are calling out the coach subtey. Coaching and more importantly, some of the rotations, and substitutions by Spo was VERY QUESTIONABLE!
Remember THE REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT MATTER 🤷🏾♂️
It doesn't but playing with the whole unit does
I'm so bummed that Jimmy is hurt. As a C's fan I was looking forward to a rematch, a revenge game for the Celtics. Won't be the same without real Heat competition.
The chic fil a game bro
...I was there....it changed everything
Wes is meat riding herro at this point.. when has herro won us a playoff game
Bubble
@@Bemisaki77 wow the bubble
Kevin Love should have been in that game regardless of the outcome, he should have been on that floor. He is so impactful in these moments when we need something more
Herro just shoots up whatever he want. Can we please package him in a trade? Package Herro and Tua.
Lol 😂 just get rid of him no mercy
Who the hell is scoring without Jimmy, Terry, Duncan and the inefficientcy of Caleb, Tyler and Bam? They can't beat anyone like that!
Miami again does not deserve to go to the playoffs. They need to go home rebuild and get rid of hero.
Just by saying Spo is the best coach 1000 times ,does not make it true. Bam is not a winner. Tyler is inconsistent.Caleb is garbage this year. Jovic should have played a lot more. Major rebuild should be coming this offseason. Nobody I mean noone should be untouchable.
People watch these games and get emotional. It's not emotional it's execution. They look for someone to blame, and for the opponent in the playoffs its not about that.
They key on the heat strengths and weaknesses. First job, clog up the middle and take away bam, done.
Secondly, don't let Jimmy beat them. After that, what's left. That's how teams look at the heat.
So, from that perspective, the heat has some serious holes to fill. This is what I think should happen, draft night, they should trade herro for as high a draft pick as they could get. Use the first pick to draft a backup guard like Devin Carter in case Terry gets hurt.
With the herro pick, I hope a big like Tyler smith Jr. is still on the board. Draft him and PLAY him early so he can figure it out on the floor.
Teams take advantage of the heats lack of height. If they don't quickly address that this off-season, next season will be like this season.
Wes is the reason I stopped watching, the excuses he makes for Tyler is getting old
Bam can’t get no damn buckets when you need him the most. Herro is inefficient as hell. Caleb sold the game with the free throws. We have no size down low to contest shots. We’re slow in getting into offensive actions. Nobody can make shots in the paint. No fast break or easy shots. And Jimmy gave you an all round game before he got hurt. This team is killing my mental health
Nobody wanted the ball in the second half don't blame Tyler blame Bam were was he? He sux
bad game from my sixers and give Spoelstra credits for the strong 1 half and take Embiid out for the most time
LETS GO Heat
I hope Jimmy's injury is not serious. That's all there is to it. This team goes as the leader goes. Him staying in the game to play even though he was hurt is another reason why I love Jimmy.
Sorry Wes, but Terry missing is a problem because with Jimmy gone there is no rim pressure. That's what Terry provides. The same way no Duncan means no credible 3 point threat (you feel it when Highsmith couldn't hit any open 3). These things matter. This loss starts with Jimmy's injury and snowballs from there.
The theme for this season if it comes to an end abruptly is injury. This has been an NBA season plagued by injury. And PJ said it best in 2022 "whoever gets to the finals is the team who is healthiest."
Wraps for the season. Love the heat, never give up on them, and ik what my team is capable of, but we’re done without Jimmy. We can’t make a run without him. We failed Jimmy by not getting another star, another year wasted.
It is heartbreak to see my team choke. sigh.
It's hard listening to Wes Cape for herro
Cape for herro but be critical of our best player jimmy.
But honestly. This isn't a surprise outcome of the season so far. If the heat miss the playoffs. Im not surprised at all. I knew that from how the off-season went. But it's better that way so jimmy can get healed up and rested. But it's by time Spo started implementing a system that gets the most out of what players do best to help win games. Including utilizing his veterans and more experienced players no matter their offensive talent. Definitely need to use that depth.
Prayers to Jimmy but as a heat fan we wanted yall to right our wrongs but it’s over
Jovic can make plays but herro if he can't shoot what good is he
If the heat make it to the playoffs would you guys do a watch party again?
Jimmy has taken us to places we couldn't imagine but this front office has failed JB
I actually kinda hope the heat don’t make it to the playoffs I just want the team to come back healthy and make a few moves in the offseason
Herro♥️ 27 keep chucking it 😂
Batum was wide open that's why he was making shots and Bam deserves more blame than Tyler and once again the Heat had a bad 3rd and 4th quarter.
The Heat lost for 2 main reasons free throws and turnovers. Missed 5 free throws (lost by 1) Philly had 15 turnovers, Heat converted only 6 to points.. and had 13 turnovers of their own.
It’s over boys 🥺
Why is asking Bam to score 15 points too much? That’s below his season average… he just had to score 12 pts to win…. Why did Bam let Batum shoot 3’s in his face & Paul Reed jump over him to get rebounds & score 6 pts?
Bam is a 38 million dollar bust
Facts
If bam don't play heat get blown out....35 mil well spent
If Jimmy doesn’t play Friday the season is over
Don't worry #HeatNation this what we do,our path to the finals Starts Friday like last year, get through Chicago, knock out Boston etc 4444 baby, let's go heat
Yeah right your team sucks!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cocaine's a helluva drug 😂
Without Jimmy? Yeah, keep dreaming!
Anthony Milton? Hilarious
Tyler bout to get exposed this post-season. Wes make sure you tell your Daddy good bye he's a freaking bum.. always has been and always will be
Nay ...it was the missed free throws & "The Bricken 4 Chicken" that changed the scenario. Sixers caught fire especially Batum . And noone thought to guard him . DAM N
Another missed opportunity. That and injuries, the theme of the season. Nobody to blame but themselves (not the injuries obviously, but despite them they've had opportunities to still win and haven't). Let's get ready for Friday
Time for a reset, nobody should be untouchable. Keep Jaquez,Jovic and a few complementary players and trade and let walk the rest. Yup, it sucks what a frustrating season!
Jimmy has a reported MCL injury...That sucks like hell...Heat still in 5 🔥🔥🔥
Heat gone in 5 mins? 😂
Caleb Martin needs to clean his game up because he's looking toast. He cannot make free throws! I don't have a problem with Tyler taking the shots, it's his play making thats atrocious.
After Friday I think it time to get rid of Jimmy, Caleb, Tyler, Robinson, and trying to find younger talent player.
I would just loose on friday...let's not embarrass ourselves against boston
Sounds like Dave has problems with Chick Filet values....sorry to hear that
Hell of a game. I hope Jimmy is ok. Good luck vs Chicago! I also really appreciate how ubiased you guys were in covering this.
-76ers fan
Look on the bright side, in the unlikely event that Miami makes the post season, they now have have a built-in excuse for getting crushed by the Celtics.
All quits now, JT was injured last playoffs, could have been a history. Now Jimmy. All quits.
We need terry badly on Friday
Bam was better at doing a ghost job than a ghost
9/27 5 turnovers Tyler, Tyler has to play more of a manly veteran game than his Jordan Poole high volume bull shit giving us a losing 20
Jimmy most likely has a torn MCL, which means no Jimmy at least for this Friday.
If this team took just a few more games seriously they aren't in the play offs and jimmy doesn't get hurt tired of this sandbagging bullshit
Was told all szn regular szn and seeding doesn’t matter by heat fans. That jimmy was gonna carry us come playoff time. Stop living in this delusion of this roster not being buns. It’s stinks and jimmy/bam just make up for poor roster construction.
Tyler cannot get contested 3s ,Duncan can and is better at the dhos with Bam , Tyler is too far out and the defense can go over the screens, in other words could have used healthy Duncan
Bam did his usual disappearing act. With Embid at 60% he's still way better than bam. We played better with K Love tonight. Spo got to do a better job also
Wow
We have serious issues with winning smh no way they 76ers should’ve won that game
It’s over boys…
I’m guessing we should have took out Maxey then that would be even based on this reasoning
NEW INTRO
Damn I liked this show up until today when the
Comment came out about chick-fila and then the fishing comment.
The heat lost because of turnovers and lack of production from key players. Players aren't always going to bring there best. But i do question why would the heat play write for as long as they did instead of playing mills. When caleb wasn't doing good why not bring back a burst of energy in jovic
Excuse factory