Let's FINISH this Horizontal Stabilizer (Ep4)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- At the 5:27 timeline you will see me and Brian carrying the skin. What you CAN'T see is that the 10' 2x4 is in the middle of the skin. So we are actually holding the 2x4 and the skin is draped over the 2x4. This was a great way to carry the skin without it kinking!
In the rest of this video, we will completely finish the Zenith CH-750 Super Duty horizontal stabilizer.
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I love how fussy you are with your builds because I'm the same way! The bolt heads made me laugh!
Enjoyed.
Thanks for doing this Mark. I love your attention to detail! ...and I like the way you think; looking at the completed parts can be half the fun.
When we talked on Saturday, I didn’t understand your comment about using the file, but it makes perfect sense now. Looking forward to your passing me up so I can improve my build! Look forward to the next video.
When you started this video series, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Excellent. Beautiful work.
You come up with some very creative ways to solve the problems as they come. Thanks for sharing these with us.
I'm going to guess the nut plates will be a gopro mount.
Im loving this series.
Great! Thanks for the feedback.
Great job you are an awesome standard to live up to.
Mark: For those close clearance rivet pulls, I use a 3/4 x 3/4 piece of aluminum wedge about 3/16 thick on the back side with the mandrill size hole in the middle. Bend the mandrill over a bit, slide the wedge over and pull the rivet. Sometimes I modify the rivet gun head piece by grinding the required clearance. I just take a piece of scrap and cut the wedge on the band saw. take an old drill of larger size grinding it to the proper cup size to equal the zenith cup on their rivet tips
jon crew I was going to recommend the same thing! Google Vans section 5, which contain all sorts of tips and tricks, and you’ll see they use a wedge that they call AEX for this exact situation!
Really appreciate this series
Worth another Bravo 👏
Thanks again for taking time out to put together and share another excellent video 🙏
Hey Brian, thanks for keeping Mark on the program and ensuring the build is done right!
Geez are you trying to ruin this for me?? I'm paying him 10 cents an hour and told him that's all he's worth. If you keep leaving comments like this he's going to catch on! This could cost me!!
You made doing the skin look so easy...Bet I would have messed it up... Looks great quality video and kit...thank you .I would love to do that.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Congratulations
Very cool
Being exRAF I would always put bolt head in the say way as you did and screw slots as it not only looks good it helps visual checks to see if there is movement (so not just OCD). The nut plate there can only be for something with a low load factor so a light camera mount as not wide enough for a fence.
I never thought about it being a good way to see if a bolt turned. I like that-I will now say that's why I'm doing it instead of saying because I'm crazy!
As always, great video!!! Loved it!
thank you beautiful job
Way better caring the skin this time , looking good Mark
I think the nut plates are to install a cocktail shaker. Take off, go up to altitude, throw in some steep turns. Land and enjoy a $100 martini.
Great idea!
Hey Mark! Thanks again for doing this , I couldn't make it to the homecoming , hope your travels went well. Your building experience is apparent. I'm picking up tips as you move along and you've answered several questions before I could even ask. See you next time , thanks and Blue Skies!
Handles for easier ground handling??
Answer in EP5!
Ha! I knew I couldn’t be the only one that lines up bolt heads when possible. It’s also the reason why I love stainless round-head torx fasteners. Far less work.
MX after 30 yeah but your stainless bolts don’t have the same properties as an AN cad plated bolt. Also, although stainless is corrosion resistant, when touching aluminum, it will cause severe corrosion on the aluminum without some form of sealant barrier between the two. A cad plated AN bolt really is the better choice here.
@@thomasaltruda totally agree for that application. I was not suggesting that the bolts be changed or altered. That is also why I stated I line up bolt heads as well. I do love when the application permits, or is supplied, with nice shiny stainless round head torx. No extra alignment work needed to calm my ocd.
Those two nut plates are for mounting the chaffe and hot flare anti missile defense system. Or maybe elevator support bracket, or GoPro mount. OK, all the above.
LOL you have to pick one!
@@KitplaneEnthusiast OK, I will go with Missile Defense System.
What is the part number for the nut plates you are using?
You make aircraft build to appear to be a simple job. I hope one day I will start building my one with a savvy mentor of your caliber.
Follow the manual step-by-step and it's an enjoyable process!
Excellent
Swèet!
Looking Good👍
Using the 2x4 to carry the skin -- pure genius!
Ya it’s hard to find good help though.
Yea, Brian is the best part of the videos. I wish I would have had him, I wrinkled mine. Not a structural issue, and can only be seen in the right light, but can drive me insane when I catch it. Perhaps a video someday of using SuperFil to fix that kind of stuff? You’d have to make a mistake first, which isn’t likely. :)
Another great video.. As for the closer rivets to the mounting bracket I've seen other people visit the bench grinder with the head of their hand squeezer tool make it fit a little better haha
Mine is already ground down to the "bones"
@@KitplaneEnthusiast lol well guess that answers the question that I would have been shocked if you didn't already think of this..... Good luck let us know what u did.. Wish I had better help.. All I got left is maybe using your teeth something tells me that will not work ether haha cheers
Maybee someday. I will.
It's coming along faster than I hoped! With your experience, how long are you expecting this build to take? I'll be watching!
Scott Cummings At least two years.
ratchet straps work nice for folding the skin over solo
Yes they do-that's how I did my Cruzer wings. But it's a lot quicker and easier (and there's less potential for damage) by just grabbing a sucker like Brian who works for free!
Crazy how few people hit the like button. Come on people help the guy out
I think a lot of people watch RUclips on their TV, and there's no way to hit the Like button on the TV. But ya, come on people!! LOL
Here is a wild guess for the nut plates- Built in GoPro??
Did you show up at the 2022 Oskosh air show? Did you make a video of that?
Actually HomdbuiltHELP has a good video about how to get those tough rivets set.
Well if those nut plates aren't for a GoPro, maybe you're working on some interesting endplate design..?
If they ARE for a GoPro... why not put an itty-bitty little power supply wire in that stab..?
Answer in EP5!
360 Camera mount
I like ice cream. Just saying. - your friendly neighborhood zenith builder.
Is this removing the stabiliser skin and deburring the holes both on ribs and the skins really neccessary, or are you just very neat with your work? Can it cause problems if I drill the holes and rivet them right in?
Just take two pieces of thin scrap aluminum and put them on top of each other. Now drill a #20 through them, take them apart, and feel both sides of the holes. Use your judgement-do you think the holes should be deburred?
Geez, This inspire me so badly (👍🏻) and i atm cant afford a kit 😞
Great video and series, looking forward to seeing the end result! Question though, you’ve been very meticulous about priming the parts, why did you prime the area of where you scratched the skin and not the whole thing?
Because I'm not paranoid about primer. I'm just adding some extra protection incase the airplane ends up in an environment that I'd want to have it. It's a balance between priming every single part vs weight vs money, etc... Without the wing skins fully primed, my airplane probably will only last about 150 years.
Just wondering why you didn't prime the skin under the attachment doubler and the underside of the doubler if you primed the skin to rib joints?
I primed the underside of the doubler, but just forgot to prime the skin before I started riveting.
Nut plates are for lights?
Доброго дня! скажіть будьласка, навіщо Ви двічі натискаєте на пневмопістолет? Дякую.
What is your opinion on the Zenith blind rivet system versus traditional bucked rivets in terms of structural capacity, differences in length of build?
I prefer the pulled rivets since it doesn't not require two people. It's much easier and faster.
Great video, technical and still fun. Perhaps the nut plates are for mounting the tips? I am not a builder....maybe someday.
Answer in EP5!
Hi Mark, I thought you wanted to go to the homecoming but now it seems that you rather continued to work on your SD. I also didn't see your Cruzer on any of the pictures Zenith or others posted on FB. Did you really not go? Why?
You know my airplane is the one with the Blue Angels paint scheme, right?
Mark I hope you video record your seminar at Zenith. I would love to see it.
I did not, but I plan to make a video on the same topic.
Do you have to dip the rivets in red or blue locktite before securing them in?
No.
I noticed the ribs are fluted. Do they come that way or did you have to do it?
Don, the ribs come completely finished from the factory. Debur the holes and rivet them to the spar!
The 2 nut plates in the stab are to mount spiral antennas for an APR-39AV2
Nope.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast Dang. thought you were installing an M-130 flare/chaff dispenser.
Todd R You send me one and I’ll install it!!
@@KitplaneEnthusiast I'll see if I have an extra in my barn.
Riveted on threaded hole plates are to add some kind of navigation light on the ends of the elevator??? Or to allow for a sling mount / rotary mount to store / paint the finished part??? Thanks for the video series. Do you find the drawings and assembly instructions to be fairly accurate and complete?
Yes I think Zenith has really improved the construction manual on the Super Duty.
Are you still moving to Texas? I thought your April vid said you were.
Maybe an AOA sensor??
Answer in EP5!
nut plates for lights
Nope.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast Oh the humanity!
I've noticed in your last two or three videos that your rivet gun often takes two hits to pull the rivets. Is it wearing out?
I don't think it has enough travel to pull it in one pull.
Huh. I don't recall this during the Cruzer build, maybe I just didn't notice.
My gun pulls most rivets in one try. Perhaps an adjustment is needed.
Those guns are not that expensive, could be as simple as cleaning the jaws, simple job, it does not take long to get a buildup when you pull a lot of rivets
@@itsonlymoney2931 Mine was already cleaned. I just think it does not have the travel required to pull a rivet in one squeeze. I should probably look into buying a new one though.
Removable handles for ground handling??
Answer in EP5!