New Ford E-Transit electric review - the most important van of 2022
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- New Ford E-Transit electric review - the most important van of 2022. The Ford E-Transit van is probably the most important commercial vehicle in Europe on sale in 2022. Jonny reviews one on a day's real world road trip from his home to Doncaster (78 miles), then Doncaster to Luton (143 miles), then home (70 miles). Why? To collect a Honda Civic Type-R engine from Synetiq salvage and drop off to be tuned and rebuilt with Dream Automotive. Said VTec engine is destined to end up in his Austin Allegro sleeper project build.
Designed to feel as familiar as possible, the dependable Ford Transit EV van is available in up to 25 variants (including chassis cabs, double cabs and chiller units) and two motor outputs (135kw / 184PS or 198kw / 269PS) but all have the same 400V 68kWh lithium-ion batt pack.
Transit's WLTP range is between 166 or 196 miles depending on the wheelbase and roof size. Van tested is L3 H2. Load volume also varies between9.5 and 15.1 M3, with a max payload of 1758kg.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
5:33 PRICES
6:40 Collecting goods
7:18 Load space
7:54 Payload
8:25 Cargo loaded
9:32 Synetiq salvage yard tour
11:20 Doncaster to Luton drive
13:10 Infotainment
14:08 Regen braking
15:15 Rapid charge pit stop
16:28 Charging stats
17:15 Ford Pro app
18:15 Jonny's mileage
19:25 E-Transit controls
21:42 Poo pit stop
22:30 Rival EV vans
24:41 Jonny's dislikes
25:08 Arriving in Luton
26:00 Unloading Type R engine
26:56 Unboxing the Civic engine
27:10 VERDICT
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Johnny, could you tell us non EV driving folk real world, what that cost to do the whole trip please? Ie charging at home to back to home empty… ta 👍
Home charging tends to be cheapest, depending on your elec tariff. Mine probably filled this for less than £5. Rapid charging on the hop like this usually ends up costing between 35-50p per KWh. That rose sharply in the last 9 months, annoyingly. So ideally you want to slow charge at a depot or home, and task vans like this on journeys that won't need a charge, or can be charged during a manditry lunch break at depot or with rapid charge provider whom the company has a deal with.
@@TheLateBrakeShow Instavolt now 57p a kw😬
@@TheLateBrakeShow yes but! To a complete novice, non EV driver like me… How much would that round trip have cost? I’m interested it working out. The difference between EV cost compared with derv 👍
It's not just the price of the charge to consider, if your working the down time while the van charges is costing you money.
@@fbeale3537 As Johnny said in the video that totally depend on what you use your van for for the minority of trips. I us my Nissen env200 as a handyman van and charge it at home over night or from solar at the weekend. I there for have less down time charging it then I had with my old van and going to fill it up at a petrol pump. If you are doing longer trips a lot that need a rapid charge then yes there will be down time or at lest time you can use to do paper work that would need to be done anyway as it charges.
How the hell will we draw crude things on white vans if they no longer have diesel soot on the back of them?!
True fact. 'I wish my husband woz this dirty' etc.
Marker pen?
“I wish my Mrs was this quiet”
@@TheLateBrakeShow Most vans don't get sooty its just road grime, so we can still make comments that Dan the driver has a misses that's dirtier than his van
When is the last time you saw diesel soot on a modern , regular serviced euro 6 van .... Answer is never.
@@matthewmason8982 I assume that your missis didn’t see that😂
I love how reviews on this channel tend to feel like documentaries. It always feels like I'm learning something.
Yes, learning how NOT to drive. Frequently taking your eyes of the road is not clever, nor is driving one handed. Apart from that he's great.
@@RAFchurchlawford4469 Are you part of Bomber Command?
Surely you mean like an 'advertisement'!
Using the air conditioner...the sacrifices he makes for his job are immense.
Yes he didn't bite when I asked 😉
I always learn more from a JS vehicle review - thorough, professional, informative. Keep up the good work Jonny.
Mate, you're amazing. Curious, investigative, and you automatically extend your visit to the salvage yard and have readily available information that makes your shows that much more engaging and entertaining! Other than the exceptional EV, I think that was on of the highlights of this video! (9:28)
Please do more of those, I think it illustrates perfectly what it means to use a certain vehicle. doesn't have to be limited to vans, although they beg for it of course. Help someone move with a car, collect a dish washer, etc. Plenty of silly every day examples that suddenly become jewels of television (if YOU do it of course ;-)
Absolutely riveting episode. Well done man!
The "fuel card" idea and billing work for your home charging are genius. This is why Ford just get commercials don't they.
I like cash... hate cards and electronic payments
@@sahhull But then you have to go back to the boss with all your receipts, er no thanks.
There's nobody else I'd watch on RUclips chatting while driving a van down a road. Quality as always Jonny!
@george ion It's an advert, not a review.
I worked for a car parts shop as a delivery driver for 2 months this summer and I would have loved this e-Transit instead of the slow and loud diesel Transit I drove. Good job Ford!
Hope u wont need go to far Emil. Motorväg funkar ej
Rather than going for the sexiest/fastest/most efficient/most costly sound system/ugliest grille/4-wheel-steering/proprietary charging/number of seat massage/0-60/Nurburg laps, Ford focuses on practical, economical, solutions to people's transportation needs, just like they have done for over 100 years.
I'm glad they do in Europe, because they don't In North America.
With a tiny range
What? Are you saying the massaging seats in the new Mercedes EV is over the top? More practical than picking up a new friend for a hand massage with a happy ending then being tossed in the pokey ROTFL
Ford appear to have nailed this. Great engineering and lots of thought about real world usability. Could be a game changer.
Only shortcoming in my opinion are the towing capabilities.
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 it’s definitely not made for towing
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 See plenty of big vans without tow bars anyway. We tow a lot in groundworks and in landscaping but delivery drivers/kitchen fitters/flooring/locksmiths/ may never need to tow anything’s
Those 2 guys in the passenger seat that always seem to have their hoodies up asleep will be most impressed with the serene transformation
Once again Jonny hits the nail on the head. I'm all for an EV society. Of course there will always be pros and cons towards them, such as expensive to buy and the range isn't as good as it's ICE equivalent but
they would slot into a daily routine for companies such as Royal Mail and Euro Car Parts, small route driving and back to the depot.
Would like to see more EV commercial reviews along with the ever popular barn finds!
Top job as always!
Only thing people don't mention is the creation of all these new vehicles negates any kind of benefit to the planet. Why not retrofit existing transits instead of creating more? Why is there this big incentive to scrap cars in the UK? I'm not against electric, I'm against this 3 year life cycle of cars
@@Taz1451 I do agree partly with retrofitting, however would it benefit the remaining life expectancy of the vehicle it has been fitted to or would it be false economy? Good and bad points to everything, but not everyone would want to retrofit, even to an relatively young vehicle.
For a high percentage of daily deliveries, EV is the answer. Great review Jonny, you showcased this vehicle perfectly. Glad you picked up on the touchscreen angle, I noticed it from the off. I personally find touchscreens very distracting! I think Ford have a winner here, just a pity it is not made in Southampton! At least Stellantis are investing in the UK for EV manufacturing. 👍😎
After the 3 year lease then what? Be interesting to see how Amazon get rid of their ev fleet. Would you take on a ev van with 80k on the clock with no warrant?
@@domefford864 scrap them, which leaves us with the same problem, and at some point we'll reach a saturation point for where used batteries go, which means where do they get recycled?
Top drawer review as usual, thank you johnny
Good to see it's rusting underneath already!
Wouldn't be a Transit if it didn't rot faster than an overripe windfall apple...
Again an excellent review. Jonny has a fantastic pace of delivery, and an easy to listen to style.
Glad to see that I’m not the only one who has emergency Twiglets Jonny. That and a Reef T-Shirt - pure class!! Every time I watch one of your vids I come back brighter.
Should have put it straight up against the bulkhead via the side door .😟 Then if you slam the brakes on in an Emergency it's not going to slide up the bed and slam into that thin steel sheet of a partition behind you . Bad mistake 😔
True story, my late Dad collected a new engine for a tractor in a virtually brand new mk 1 Transit in the 60's. No side door those days, so it had to sit between the wheelarches. No tie down lugs, so was roped to the supports on each side. Halfway home he had to do an emergency stop, van stopped, engine didnt. Van sides were like a hour glass. Sides got pushed out, but the van never looked right again.
Also handles better with the weight in front of the rear axle. The van and side door is designed to take a pallet.
As a tradesmen/van driver for 30 years, I wouldn’t buy this van if it was half the price.
lol , glad i'm not the only person who thought this
If it was behind the bulkhead and he accelerated hard it could go flying to the back doors and mysteriously fall out if doors not shut right. Bulkheads are strong now, just needs people to now how to use a ratchet strap.
@@GregsMowing You load a Van from the front to the rear . When you see an Curtain side Artic drop any load from the front they always move the load to the front again. I have lost track of how many times in 30yrs of driving a Forklift that I have had to re-arrange a load for a driver to make it safe.
I really enjoyed this video. Euro car parts on the Isle of Wight have trialed a few different electric vans (Nissan env200, Renault Kangoo E, vauxhall vivaro E and the maxis E deliver 3) and we found them to be ideally suited to the needs.
Not surprising, on the island! Great to hear, though
Never thought I'd enjoy a review of a van but this was fantastic!
I miss Yorkies. Great video.
Love the grey clouds at the end, typical summer weather 🤣
Another great video as always JS! Just don’t get caught going over 60 mph in your van, you never know who’s watching 👀🚨🚓😂😂
You can go 70 on the motorway mate
Great video. I was expecting the van to have similar power sockets to the E150 that's just been released. These would be a big plus point for trades.
Another great review and lovely filmed piece, and its a van!?. I always enjoy this channel, keep up the great work Jonny and team.
I quite like your reviews! You do an excellent job and make it real for people. Well done!
As someone who often clocks up 250 motorway miles a day in a Transit Custom, this is an interesting one.
It’ll make a lot more sense when cheap chain hotels offer charging though.
It'll come. It has to.....
Are you doing so fully loaded?
If not then in the future I'm guessing you'll be able to sacrifice some cargo capacity for an extended range battery.
...Something like that might be useful for those whose vans carry lower density loads but over longer distances.
@@DEADB33F Unless you're talking fitting a secondary battery or similar, the reduced weight won't significantly impact range once up to speed on the motorway (mass is a killer in stop-start traffic because it takes more energy to get it moving... but once it's up to speed it take very little effort to maintain that speed)
If by interesting u mean adding 2 3 hrs to your day any paying insane amounts of money for fast charging
@@alabar9795 The cost of fast charging for that battery pack is still cheaper than a tank full of diesel.
Hope they release a dual motor 4x4 verison.
Would make a great adventure van / camper conversion.
You can't carry electric with you. But Jerrycan.
It would have a range of 10 miles
Hmm, a visit a charger three times a day adventure van.
I agree with you. Camper conversion replaces cargo load. 4x4 has been my go-to drive train for decades of wet, snowy road trips, as well as for added traction on curves.
@@leedstown Why? The second motor would be disengaged most of the time.
I mean yeah, it'd be eating into your load capacity a bit, but wouldn't be using any leccy unless you engaged it for off-road use.
I just realized something: the best vehicle reviews all made by British RUclipsrs!
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I enjoyed, thanks!
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My first video of "The late brake Show" - worth every minute. Great Job. Greetings from Germany.
Our company has just made the jump to order 5 E-transits to do central London chilled food drops, our fleet is of close to 100 vans almost nationwide so only a small portion but I'm sure testing will be done to expand. A big change in form as we've historically had Iveco Dailys. Really interested to see how they get on. I feel like the blue on the grille is like that plastic film you get covering new chrome and needs to be removed :D
How's your company getting on with the new vans?
Real world test - bit of fly tipping, reverse into a NatWest, load 2 tons of loose gravel in the back..
... Once fully charged, steal the charging cable for the copper content
Great video. Really enjoyed that. Cool T-shirt too. Seen Reef many times over the years. Fantastic live.
Love it! Love it! Love it! Jonny, yes absolutely a must for every business user who can run a fleet of vans. Thanks for a great and different video, Love it! Love it! Love it!
Good effort from Ford. I'll admit I was skeptical but Ford has got a good combination of range, performance, capacity and price.
I’m not in the market for a van but I had to watch because a) Jonny b) I needed to know what he was transporting c) no-one else does videos of this quality
Quality review Jonny! Your audio is back on point too after a few videos where it was difficult to hear your guests. I suppose car caves are much harder for sound quality. look forward to the next one 👍
In 1970 our drummer had a Transit with double rear wheels and 6 aircraft seats and we used it to get to gigs, and cart all our gear. Happy days on the road!
I wonder how quickly Sabine could’ve got this transit around the Nordschleife. RIP
It's a much bigger, taller van than the one she hustled round the Ring. The equivalent to that now is the small FWD one which is unrelated to this.
@@richardharrold9736 weight is all down low though, so could see faster cornering. Bet she would have loved the new ev van
@@Rhyd hmm, maybe, but it’s much wider and much longer too... I still think the smaller van would be a much better Ring tool. At Silverstone (wide, flat and fast), this might work better.
@@richardharrold9736 very true there are plenty of factors. The lack of needing to change gears etc. I bet it’ll still be a right laugh around a track though 😅
@@Rhyd also, Sabine was no fan of the Green movement, she was actively campaigning against windfarm developments in the Eifel... so what she'd think of of EVs I don't really know!
We all have different opinions on EVs and this why I love Jonny’s channel he gives a down to earth review that makes sense in the real world use. He also seems to have an unbiased opinion as he his also a fan of ICEs, unlike channels which just deals with ev propaganda. Keep up the great work 👍🏻😊
Excellent, lots of good information and professionally delivered, Johnny please make more content we love it.
Great video! Love the Reef t-shirt too Jonny! 🤘
I half expected Richard to be involved with the intro!
A 25%+ bigger battery / range and a 22kw charger would really open this type of van up to more.
Outstanding real world review. 10/10 👍🏻
Good review Johnny, very capable van. Love the REEF T-shirt too. New album is great 👍
Great vid as always! electric vans make total sense now that a decent pack can be fitted to them. The fleet savings are going to be big for a lot of the bigger companies. I already see electric company vans on the roads and I can't wait for them to be the majority of vans
Yeah...UPS deliveries within a 3 miles radius of their distribution center. Marvelous.
Yeah Amazon have ev vans round my city
@@timscott3027 Yeah. Im constantly getting apologised to for late deliveries from the Amazon driver.
Those electric vans dont have the range when carrying weight and he's often left waiting for recovery with packages in the back.
Great vid on the eTransit and in depth. One thing i noticed Ford have missed and I’m sure if the great Sandy Munro had it up on a ramp as you showed on the rear suspension shot, they have lots of space under the rear floor area, behind the drive/suspension unit and rear valance to have a sunken rear underbody storage area as in Tesla MS etc? Small hatch in the rear floor area. Also, I noticed in the American version there’s two 230v a/c outlets in the rear. Will they add these to the UK vn as well as Vehicle to Load/Grid option?
Having this electric power options to power electric tools, charge hand power tools etc etc would be a great advantage v other brands.
Yes, its called Pro Power Onboard, it is located inside the cargo bay on the right hand side between wheel arch intrusion & the rear cargo door
2.3kw output, two UK plug sockets
Johnny, love it ! The difference between a 'TV' review and YT ... I don't think TV would ever say ' we are stopping for a quick charge as the cameraman needs a Poo" :) ;)
Great video. Thanks for highlighting how important these vehicles are going to be in the near future.
As well as steelies and a hi-vis vest, a copy of The Daily Star sitting on the dash against the windscreen would top it off 😂😂
It was in the above-cab cubby
That rear axle and suspension setup looks perfect for future EV conversions!
Yeah and those battery packs!
Loving the Reef t shirt!
As you say, Foooorrrrdddds seem to have over delivered on this one. It's a good sign. Not moved over to the electric world yet (car not van) but my next car will be.
Stella video as always! 👌
Thanks for the info - interesting review - food for thought
My favourite feature of this entire van is the standard fuel gauge, and I really hope they use this on ALL of their future electric vehicles. This alone would remove almost all range anxiety due to it's familiarity.
I have a SEAT Mii Electric and has exactly that same type of "fuel" gauge, just like anormal regular car. And it works quite well for me :D
The gauge has a little chunk of coal that moves across the dial.
If the look of the gauge is the reason for your anxiety then it's not real, but placebo.
Only because of the chip shortage.
@G T
Yeah, but when you get a EV you also get a bad bladder causing you to need to go to the toilet every 2hrs.
I like the fact it will bill the company for charging at home, if you have a company van and need to cherge at home at least you will get itt back and it will be tax free and relate to you're actual charging cost.
Green Van Man! Nice review, dude!
Great review as always! Interesting van and very capable for many businesses.
@4:51 do I see rust on a brand new van?
That £9k difference is interesting. At current rapid charge and fuel prices, for the frugal driver I reckon it would take more than 3 years to recoup, but many van drivers are not frugal and that really hurts the diesel mpg. Plus charging overnight at cheaper rates, a lot of variables but ultimately it's going to be cheaper.
Thankyou for doing the science Jonny!!!👍
Same gear knob as my focus. Love it lol
Reef Tee 👍🏼👍🏼
This van is definitely a game changer for the courier industry. When I was a courier before my current job the 18 plate tranny I had (the same wheelbase and height as this one) I was filling up 3 times a week and my round averaged 100 miles a day, 56 of them getting to and from my delivery area.
Now I do long distance in a sprinter Luton, until a manufacturer can bring out an EV Luton capable of 400 miles a day we’ll still be using Diesel engines.
I do 100 miles a day in my 2.2 econetic 3.5t and im getting 700 miles per fill up. I did get 400 until i learned how to drive it economically.
My old 2.0l used to get me to london and back on 2/3rds of a tank. The same journey uses a whole tank in my mk7. My mk7 is 10 years newer than my mk6 was. So how has this been allowed, the emissions regs are a fraud.
My old car put out 221gkm and my 16 year newer car puts out 174gkm yet im getting the same mpg on the same roads. Its all lies and im getring really tired of it. We're being played for a much bigger reason than I can think of.
@@darrenlomax1283 Road tax is a fraud, you just have to look at the state of them. I drive a sprinter Luton 316 twin turbo, I get 350-400 miles per tank but it depends on how much motorway compared to urban and also how loaded we are.
I don’t pay for the fuel though thank Fook
When I started here last April a full tank from 50 mile reserve cost about £90
Now it’s £125-30
Love me a good Van! Excellent review as always.
Why does L give higher regen? Good question.
I think it's following the standard of automatic transmissions with PRNDL, where low range gives more engine braking.
I think it's L for load. As in carrying a load.
@@Daniel-uj7rr I always understood it to be low range because it limits the top speed and allows the engine to rev higher to produce more torque due to gearing.
I’m in the U.S. I recently purchased the 2023 E Transit for my small business and so far it’s awesome. The range could be better, I get 120 miles per full battery charge but I drive 80 miles per day at the most. We ordered the Ford home charger and are about to have it installed. This is new technology for me and I had many questions doubts but now I’m sure it’s gonna be a positive for our finances.
And we were able to get it for $49,000 so it was a no brainer.
Excellent review in a real world scenario 👍👍👍
I'm amazed this has come from Ford. The Charging card is great idea. I wonder if we will ever see it in Australia, or maybe they'll just keep dumping diesel rubbish our way.
It really is quite clever. It can be set up so the delivery driver jumps out of the cab with the keys in his or her pocket, the windows close and the doors lock. The side sliding doors have foot activation for when your hands are full (although this has never been hugely reliable in the past, maybe it’s better now). And then when you walk back and open the front doors, the windows wind back down to their previous level and off you drive. No ignition. No sitting there idling.
Ford have really thought about how these things are actually used
Brilliant vid Jonny. Mate; you must be going like a racehorse with all that coffee and caprisun!!! 😉
That van is the doggys danglers and absolutely ripe for a camper conversion!
Best car review channel on RUclips
I wish someone would do a real world range test with a full load.
The load makes almost no difference as long as you don't put stuff outside the van like ladders on the roof. The coefficient of rolling resistance is nothing compared to the aero drag on something like this. Doubling the all up weight would probably only cut the range by 5% or so. Having the windows open would make more difference.
4:49 already starting to rust, so it’s a proper transit then!
One of the best postings yet Johnny
Cheers Paul.
Brilliant video, my most favourite van since being a kid, Ford have smashed it out of the park !
Seriously 150 miles to a charge on an empty van
Won't even cover my first trip on Monday of 210 miles one way
Come on, what van driver wouldn't enjoy adding 3 hours to every working day, sat looking at a battery progress bar? 😉😂
Yeah, I want to see what it'll do half full, let alone fully laden. I reckon you would be lucky to get 80 miles out of it!
Can see it now
First job Glasgow to Inverness that's 200 miles on monday
When you need me there boss
Tues or wed
@@neilbrown5657 lmao, or Thursday if you want the heater on 👍
So not suitable for you. But perfectly suitable for others....... A plumber or joiner, perhaps based in a large town or city, might never drive more than 40 or 50 miles in a day, if that......
Great review, I have driven electric for nearly 6 years now(Nissan leaf 30). For this van to work the charging network at ports has to improve significantly, we have just been left with no range when arriving at the ferry from cairnryan to larne! I had the granny charger with us(luckily) and managed to steal a few precious miles from p and o! As for the future of vans, electric is a certainty! Perhaps chargers on boats? They all have monster power generation with three phase?
Ferry operators should definitely install charging points on the vehicle decks, they have installed USB points in the passenger areas for us and most ferry passengers have a vehicle on board.
I would like to see charging points on eurotunnel. Its already an electric vehicle running on high voltage.
Ferry companies in Scandinavia are starting to offer charging on board. Must be pre-booked but it’s coming as the ferrys go into dock for refreshes.
Great review btw. As ever👍
14:00 haha right, I remember that mirror knob was on my parent’s 1996 Mondeo :)
i glad you explained how stuff gets around. I thought the magic elves made shop stock in the back room overnight.
Bahaha that into Jonny you legend!
Love the Fowds Traaaansitahhhh interludes, may have replayed a few timesl. Richard needs to take the samples and give it full sniff stellantis remix.
Another wonderful video.
Seems great! The screen should definitely lean towards the driver a bit. And I really don’t think touch screens should replace all the buttons in a car or van. Some things like heat or volume are so much easier to just turn up or down without looking. Are electric vehicles eco friendly after the mining? I’m sure someone’s compared the ecological damage to diesel and electric.
More so than pumping up vast amounts of dinosaur juice, then boiling that, taking one fraction of the result, driving this around to bring to special distribution centers, then pumping that into the final tank, and then burning it in a complicated way to only use 20% of the energy the final product contained.
Did you know that the US has more than 936000 active oil and gas wells? That's just the US. Add several million of wells that were shut down and often abandoned in the last 120 years.
Did you know that a third of all goods being transported by ship is oil, gas and derivates?
Compared to the massive scale and devastation that the fossil fuel industry produces, mining for lithium is a total non-issue.
And guess what, if a lithium based battery truly cannot be used anymore, it can always be recycled. It did not turn into vapour during its life.
The amount of drivers I see leaning down the middle of their cars whilst driving astounds me. C class drivers seem to do this in abundance. Not sure if they are all poorly sighted or the menus on the Mercedes infotainment screen are a pig. We choose our car for various reasons, physical buttons was one.
One reason to run EVERYTHING on the touchscreen is that it could potentially all be reset remotely by the fleet software whenever there is a new driver. Or potentially driver's settings could follow them. It does also introduce the potential for monitoring those settings... with all of the positives and negatives that go along with that.
There are plenty of studies out looking at impact of mining of battery materials. Although I do find it funny that we never hear anyone asking what are the impacts of speculating, drilling, refining and transporting oil and gas whenever a new ICE vehicle hits the market. Although one thing we can say for certain: EVERY metal inside of a battery pack can be reclaimed in recycling and reused, whereas not a single drop of diesel fuel can ever be reconstituted from tailpile emmissions and reused as fuel.
Years ago I had a Vauxhall viva (when they were new) everything you needed to do was proper switches and after a short time you could do anything without taking your eyes off the road. I dont think a touch screen should control anything that is needed when the vehicle is moving.
@@patreekotime4578 Lithium is so costly to reclaim and make usable that nobody does it yet, it's cheaper to open a new mine in the Congo. Also every watt of power used to charge the battery can't be reclaimed either just like diesel.
I like it, but here’s my question. The range clearly came down even hauling something weighing only a few hundred kg’s, hence the need to the extra “splash and dash”. I carry over 1t daily in my van, I’d like to understand what that would change the real world mileage to as I just can’t see how electric vans will work properly until they have diesel like range.
At the moment that means more/heavier batteries, which means a lower load capacity.
IMO unless the gov change the driving licences to 7.5t as a standard like they used to Pre 1997 then electric vans just don’t make sense if they’re going on long journeys, carrying a heavy load. With a 7.5t you could have huge batteries that could easily give longer range and you’d keep your ability for a heavy payload.
Very true. I think that's why Ford recommends a mix of electric and diesel vans. Electric for city and suburban routes, and diesel for longer hauls like you describe.
Until batteries get lighter, or can store much more energy, we'll have a definite need for some diesel and petrol vehicles.
Weight makes almost no difference to range at all. As long as it's inside and not changing the drag you'd never be able to tell.
Wind direction makes a huge difference. Vastly more than weight.
agree. Again the video is made by an electric enthusiast with no experience of day to day usage of a van. ev is presented always too sunny :) I am skeptical because it is the trend to be ev enthusiast instead of really objective.
Very comprehensive review.
Great in depth review of the E Transit, I can see a certain named rain forest online shopping site using these. I first spotted the E Transit a few weeks ago at my local ford dealer and I think it will sell and name sense to a lot of businesses. You mention the mirror control, the auto box knob looks like a adapted mark 7 fiesta heater control!
After this and the Mustang Mach-E, Ford need to start making an electric Fiesta.
Ford have cancelled all orders for fiesta ass of mid June ...
Next fiesta size car will be a VW MASH UP .
They pandered to the rich folk and business's first, which tbh is par the course for auto makers, I also think they needed to sell off the engines they'd built so that's probably why they brought a crappy hybrid Fiesta first.
Electric Puma is on the horizon
@@BigManMotors the average road doesn't need bigger and heavier cars .. I would love to see KEI cars introduced with a modern twist . In towns and cities.
@Michael Headley Sounds like Peugeot's have gotten better then, after a car crash in the early 2008 I was given a 208 courtesy car, it was terrible, and then drove Peugeot vans for Royal Mail and they're no better so stayed away from Peugeot.
Fowads?
I was dubious with load carrying trade but now driving the Peugeot E Expert for work and have been really impressed, I do 180-200 miles ,
local driving is extremely efficient. Not necessarily ideal if you do high mileage on motorways daily , but it works well for me.
Great report Johnny.
Good Review, makes more sense than EV classic cars, which occasionally come out the garage.
One thing I would say, it really should have a Hydrogen fuel cell option to make it truly usable!!
There just isn't any hydrogen infrastructure though. It's significantly more difficult to implement than battery charging infrastructure
@@TimInertiatic
Hydrogen will be coming. Lorries will be Hydrogen soon. There's no way Lorries can sustain a long journey on BEV!
Or Hydrogen combustion? Harry's Farm and Harry's Garage did an interesting interview with Lord Bamford of JCB fame about the advantages of burning hydrogen in modified IC vehicles, worth a watch.
@@markwalton8644 ok fine, but where is the hydrogen infrastructure?
@@TimInertiatic
The infrastructure will come soon as it'll have to by 2030. EV lorries aren't going to work!!
It rides better when unladen because it's heavier in the 1st place !
MUCH heavier
I’ve been weighing up the options with regards replacing my 2018 Renault trafic 1.6 diesel. I’ve looked at the transit phev but at £40+ and 40ish mpg (I’ve seen evidence by looking at dashboard photos of ones for sale) it’s hard to make a business case to spend that sort of corn on a van when I’m getting 34mpg from my trafic that cost me £16k new in 2018. It’s going to be a case of waiting for the prices to reduce before I commit to buying an Ev van. Having recently spoken to my Renault dealer a PHEV Trafic is in the pipeline but an EV version isn’t coming any time soon! The range of the e-transit is perfectly adequate for my needs (and all that) so I’m definitely onboard. Great film as always Jonnie 👍🏼🏆
Great Review 👍
A very good review! Let's just hope that it won't result in a life long vocal tic, that'll cost Jonny his marriage.
The hardest test would be same journey in the winter ,lights heater,wipes etc see what mileage you get then
Agree, those are the worst conditions for an EV (above 60mph especially)
@@TheLateBrakeShow I'd expect like every other EV it'll do about 20% less than it will in the summer!
Can’t see tradesmen ever going electric, I’m a floor layer bet all my tools and crap weigh more than that Honda engine. Add 600kg of carpets probably won’t get out of town 🤣
@@domefford864 no same with me full van roof rack and ladders as well, plus longer journeys i could not br arsed to keep stopping but I do think they have their place just not for me
@@domefford864 as long as you keep it all inside the van you shouldn't notice any difference in range. If you put stuff on the roof it will make a huge difference.
Great review
Nicely done. Great content. Here in Ireland the postal service (An Post) already uses electric vehicles for the posties to do their rounds. I think they're Citroen's eBerlingo.
4:33 notice the rust on the brackets? Brand new van already rusting.
I've a 8 year old custom,only rust is on front subframe and sump.They aren't like previous gen rust buckets.
Shame it hasn't got the current miles per kWh meter visible on the dash. I bet it's there but buried in a menu somewhere. I think you hit the spot on the review as to who the van is aimed at. Oh and I hope Ford catch up with the hooligan who stuck those stickers on their van....whoever they are! 😉
@@dashcam2417 eh? 🙄
@@dashcam2417 utter bollocks mate .
"Ford Tranist , Ford Transit .... Fords" Spoken in fluent Daganam 💯Another great informative review Cheers Jonny👍👍
Phil from Dream automotive is a great guy - I had never heard of Dream (not being a Honda owner) but I chatted for ages to him at Goodwood about all sorts - top bloke.